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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/177240 | 01:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.serialization: Remove run_cross_tests.sh https://review.openstack.org/179478 | 01:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.messaging: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/177129 | 01:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo.serialization: Deprecate substituting jsonutils as a anyjson reference impl https://review.openstack.org/117844 | 01:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.config: Option name missing from ConfigFileValueError https://review.openstack.org/179835 | 01:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo-specs: Add an adopt tardis spec to adopt/create that codebase https://review.openstack.org/179890 | 01:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/tooz: Explicitly start and execute most transactions https://review.openstack.org/179977 | 01:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Use newer versions of futures that adds exception tracebacks https://review.openstack.org/179972 | 01:50 |
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| harlowja | sileht https://sourceforge.net/p/pypi/support-requests/494/ (no luck) | 02:43 |
| harlowja | durn | 02:43 |
| harlowja | any better names before we resort to french :-P | 02:43 |
| harlowja | ohhhh, sileht how about https://pypi.python.org/pypi/futurist | 02:44 |
| harlowja | not taken it seems | 02:44 |
| harlowja | future related :-P | 02:45 |
| harlowja | or https://pypi.python.org/pypi/futuro (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/futuro#Latin ) | 02:48 |
| harlowja | also not taken | 02:48 |
| lifeless | uuidgen | sha1sum -> new name | 02:49 |
| harlowja | lol | 02:49 |
| harlowja | futuro sounds sorta neat | 02:49 |
| harlowja | haha | 02:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Build-out + test a redis backed jobboard https://review.openstack.org/176951 | 05:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Build-out + test a redis backed jobboard https://review.openstack.org/176951 | 05:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: fix consumers declaration https://review.openstack.org/179271 | 06:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: remove unused consumer interfaces https://review.openstack.org/179153 | 06:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Smarter declaration of the notification queue https://review.openstack.org/179270 | 06:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: remove unused code https://review.openstack.org/179152 | 06:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: Set timeout on the underlying socket https://review.openstack.org/179357 | 06:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Dump kombu and amqp requirements https://review.openstack.org/179356 | 06:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: TEST: enable heartbeat https://review.openstack.org/179359 | 06:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Use default exchange for reply queue https://review.openstack.org/179388 | 06:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: fix exception path in queue redeclaration https://review.openstack.org/179275 | 06:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: Remove unused stuffs from publisher https://review.openstack.org/179130 | 06:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit/qpid: simplify the consumer loop https://review.openstack.org/178961 | 06:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/debtcollector: Allow providing the deprecation category https://review.openstack.org/177848 | 08:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: fix consumers declaration https://review.openstack.org/179271 | 08:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: smarter declaration of the notif. queue https://review.openstack.org/179270 | 08:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: Set timeout on the underlying socket https://review.openstack.org/179357 | 08:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Dump kombu and amqp requirements https://review.openstack.org/179356 | 08:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: TEST: enable heartbeat https://review.openstack.org/179359 | 08:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Use default exchange for reply queue https://review.openstack.org/179388 | 08:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: fix exception path in queue redeclaration https://review.openstack.org/179275 | 08:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: redeclare consumers when ack/requeue fail https://review.openstack.org/180059 | 08:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: smarter declaration of the notif. queue https://review.openstack.org/179270 | 08:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: Set timeout on the underlying socket https://review.openstack.org/179357 | 08:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Dump kombu and amqp requirements https://review.openstack.org/179356 | 08:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: TEST: enable heartbeat https://review.openstack.org/179359 | 08:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Use default exchange for reply queue https://review.openstack.org/179388 | 08:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: redeclare consumers when ack/requeue fail https://review.openstack.org/180059 | 08:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: TEST: enable heartbeat https://review.openstack.org/179359 | 08:40 |
| sileht | jd__, if you are not afraid, you can take a look to this branch: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/oslo.messaging+branch:master+topic:sileht/refactor,n,z | 08:42 |
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| haypo | sileht, aaaaaah! | 08:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Li Yingjun proposed openstack/oslo.db: Set default value for updated_at https://review.openstack.org/180063 | 08:49 |
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| jd__ | sileht: never afraid! | 09:42 |
| jd__ | sileht: ok I'm a bit afraid finally | 09:42 |
| sileht | jd__, ahaha | 09:43 |
| sileht | jd__, the first one is easy | 09:43 |
| sileht | jd__, the two that remove all *args,**kwargs in publisher and consumer class are bigger | 09:44 |
| haypo | is it possible to ask wheel to build a different package for python 2 and python 3? | 09:44 |
| sileht | other are bugs fixing | 09:45 |
| haypo | oslo.vmware has a single wheel package for py2 & py3, but requirements are different on py3... | 09:45 |
| haypo | well, a different approach is to have same dependencies on py2 & py3 | 09:46 |
| haypo | on python 3, oslo.vmware depends on oslo.serialization & httplib2, but not on python2? that's strange | 09:48 |
| jd__ | haypo: that is strange | 09:52 |
| sileht | haypo, wierd because source have both in both case | 09:53 |
| sileht | jd__, haypo this reverse have not revert everything: https://github.com/openstack/oslo.vmware/commit/6d8594ae519e2dfa116f84fb126e40a058473754 | 09:54 |
| sileht | haypo, you can safely remove the requirement from py3 | 09:54 |
| haypo | jd__, it's not the first time that i got such issue. i got a similar issue with "setup.py egg_info", the result depends on the python version and tox always uses python 2 | 09:55 |
| haypo | sileht, yeah, i saw this commit, thanks for the double check. i will simple drop requirements-py3.txt | 09:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/oslo.vmware: Use suds-jurko on Python 2 https://review.openstack.org/180087 | 10:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/oslo.vmware: Use suds-jurko on Python 2 https://review.openstack.org/180087 | 10:12 |
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| jd__ | lol sileht is killing oslo.messaging | 10:28 |
| dims_ | y jd__ | 10:31 |
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| dims_ | jd__: flaper87: there's a oslo.log patch series that could use some love - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/oslo.log+branch:master+topic:bp/graduate-oslo-versionutils,n,z | 10:31 |
| jd__ | are we putting versionutils in oslo.log? | 10:33 |
| jd__ | berk | 10:33 |
| dims_ | y | 10:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tiantian Gao proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Rabbit: Fix message ttl not work https://review.openstack.org/174240 | 10:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.log: Add liberty release name to versionutils https://review.openstack.org/167766 | 11:39 |
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| dhellmann | haypo: you could make oslo.vmware not build universal wheels, there's a setting in setup.cfg | 12:06 |
| dhellmann | jd__: you should read some specs ;-) http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/oslo-specs/specs/liberty/graduate-oslo-versionutils.html | 12:07 |
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| jd__ | dhellmann: isn't that covered by debtcollector? | 12:07 |
| dhellmann | jd__: debtcollector does not know about versions of openstack, no | 12:08 |
| jd__ | ok :( | 12:08 |
| dhellmann | jd__: debtcollector is for developer stuff, versionutils is for user-facing stuff | 12:08 |
| dhellmann | different use cases | 12:08 |
| jd__ | makes sense I guess | 12:08 |
| dhellmann | versionutils == log a message when someone uses a feature that is changing/going away | 12:08 |
| dhellmann | debtcollector == emit a warning to the developer when they call a function/class/etc. that is changing/going away | 12:09 |
| jd__ | isn't using a feature tied to a config options? | 12:10 |
| dhellmann | jd__: not necessarily | 12:11 |
| jd__ | ah no I see it applies to some endpoint in Nova | 12:11 |
| dhellmann | yeah, sometimes it's a combination of multiple options or something like that, where we can't just deprecate a single option | 12:11 |
| jd__ | ok, it does not seem heavily used anyway | 12:11 |
| dhellmann | yeah, not really | 12:12 |
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| haypo | dhellmann, hi. ah ok, it's good to know (setup.cfg to disable universal wheels) to being able to workaround some py2/py3 issues | 12:17 |
| dhellmann | haypo: yeah, we *want* them to be the same, but where they aren't we just disable the py3 wheels for now | 12:18 |
| haypo | dhellmann, for the specific case of oslo.vmware, IMO it's better to switch to suds-jurko on Python 2, suds is really outdated :-( last release in 2010... | 12:18 |
| dhellmann | haypo: I think that was part of dims' plan | 12:18 |
| haypo | dhellmann, same rationale for replacing mysql-python with mysqlclient ;-) | 12:18 |
| haypo | dhellmann, yeah, there is a plan in global requirements, but i don't know who wrote it | 12:19 |
| haypo | dhellmann, "NOTE(dims):" ah yes :) | 12:19 |
| dhellmann | I'm a little worried about getting the distros to package suds-jurko, though, since it uses the suds package name. | 12:19 |
| dhellmann | we'll have to see how that plays out | 12:19 |
| haypo | dhellmann, see thomas goirand's reply to my mysql thread | 12:20 |
| haypo | dhellmann, it's not an issue at all | 12:20 |
| haypo | dhellmann, anyway, zigo & me consider that mysqlclient is simply the new upstream | 12:20 |
| dhellmann | haypo: yeah, I'm just worried not all distros will take the same view | 12:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack-dev/pbr: builddoc: allow to use fnmatch-style exclusion for autodoc https://review.openstack.org/180119 | 12:22 |
| haypo | dhellmann, it doesn't matter if it's the same package or a new package, it's a very common issue that two packages provide the same binary/library | 12:23 |
| haypo | dhellmann, zigo confirmed that in his email | 12:23 |
| dhellmann | ok, that's good to know | 12:23 |
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| haypo | dhellmann, ok, dims_ voted +2 for suds-jurko in oslo.vmware ;) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180087/ | 12:35 |
| haypo | dhellmann, what's your opinion on mysqlclient? | 12:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: fix consumers declaration https://review.openstack.org/179271 | 12:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: remove unused consumer interfaces https://review.openstack.org/179153 | 12:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: smarter declaration of the notif. queue https://review.openstack.org/179270 | 12:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: Set timeout on the underlying socket https://review.openstack.org/179357 | 12:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Dump kombu and amqp requirements https://review.openstack.org/179356 | 12:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: TEST: enable heartbeat https://review.openstack.org/179359 | 12:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: redeclare consumers when ack/requeue fail https://review.openstack.org/180059 | 12:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: fix exception path in queue redeclaration https://review.openstack.org/179275 | 12:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: remove publisher classes https://review.openstack.org/180129 | 12:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexander Makarov proposed openstack/oslo-specs: oslo logging needs a way to be reconfigured https://review.openstack.org/154838 | 13:02 |
| dims | dhellmann: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167768/ may need to be touched up for a docs failure | 13:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexander Makarov proposed openstack/oslo-specs: oslo logging needs a way to be reconfigured https://review.openstack.org/154838 | 13:06 |
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| haypo | dhellmann, it looks like SCL is available on CentOS too, they include python 3.3: http://willie.dftba.net/python3-centos7.html | 13:26 |
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| haypo | dhellmann, https://www.softwarecollections.org/en/scls/rhscl/python33/ mentions CentOS 6 & 7 | 13:27 |
| dhellmann | haypo: how does someone without a RHEL subscription get access to that? | 13:28 |
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| dhellmann | I don't really know the story with RHEL vs. CentOS and licensing and support | 13:28 |
| haypo | dhellmann, "although any information about RHN, subscription management is not applicable" says https://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories/SCL | 13:30 |
| dhellmann | haypo: ok, good | 13:30 |
| haypo | dhellmann, i simply copy/paste text, don't expect me to explain it :) | 13:30 |
| haypo | dhellmann, i never tried SCL, sorry | 13:30 |
| dhellmann | haypo: the question came up in a discussion of my spec (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177375/) where I suggest only testing on one version of python after python 3 support is working | 13:31 |
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| dhellmann | sdague thought centos didn't have python 3 packages, although it looks like that is 3.3 rather than 3.4 | 13:32 |
| dhellmann | and that makes it more difficult for us to go to 3.4 :-/ | 13:32 |
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| dhellmann | haypo: I'm a bit concerned that there is no 3.4 package. I don't want to be testing with 3 separate versions of python. | 13:35 |
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| haypo | differences between python 3.3 and 3.4 are minor for openstack | 13:36 |
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| haypo | they only matter if you rely on python 3.4 features | 13:36 |
| haypo | but openstack code is written for python 2, not for python 3.4 :) | 13:36 |
| haypo | so it should work on python "2+" : 2.7-3.5 (after a small step called "port code to python 3") | 13:36 |
| sdague | that's not entirely true, there are bug fixes as well. For instance we couldn't get python 3.4 to reliably run unit tests for a while. | 13:37 |
| haypo | sdague, python 3.3 shares most of its bug with python 2.7, there are few bugs specific to python 3.3 (not affecting python 2.7) | 13:38 |
| sdague | haypo: well, that wasn't the experience in getting unit tests to consistently pass in the gate :) | 13:39 |
| dhellmann | haypo: as sdague points out, the *vendor* packages of python may be more different than we expect | 13:45 |
| dhellmann | I think the gate issues we had were due to ubuntu not having a fix from upstream in their package for a while | 13:46 |
| sdague | yeh, it was something like that | 13:46 |
| sdague | clarkb has all the details | 13:46 |
| haypo | dhellmann, there are always some annoying bugs in the first .0 and .1 micro releases :) | 13:47 |
| haypo | dhellmann, example of "funny" bug in python 3.4*.0* : https://bugs.python.org/issue21435 "Segfault in gc with cyclic trash" | 13:48 |
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| haypo | sdague, dhellmann : a colleague pointed me https://developerblog.redhat.com/2015/04/23/software-collections-2-0-now-beta/ : SCL 2.0 beta includes Python 3.4 | 13:49 |
| sdague | haypo: yeh, I think that was the bug in question actually | 13:50 |
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| sdague | however, honestly, I expect it's sort of early to make that kind of call anyway, I'd expect that it's going to take 6 - 12 months to stabalize actual servers on python 3 runs to have the equal or lesser race failures than on python 2.7, by that time the python 3.x in the field will have changed. | 13:54 |
| sdague | so I'd just start on figuring out what kind of test infrastructure would be needed to try any of this in the first place in the experimental queue | 13:55 |
| sdague | "this" == full stack testing with some components on python 3 | 13:55 |
| dhellmann | sdague: yeah, that's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177375/ -- maybe we only run the mixed 2.7/3.4 jobs on ubuntu for now | 13:56 |
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| sdague | yes, I think that's probably the right starting point | 13:57 |
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| sdague | so, honestly, I think instead of trying to system level manage 2 pips from source, I think it's probably worth just leveraging the venv infrastructure that was put into devstack this cycle and make the services you want to try on python 3 be under dedicated venvs | 14:01 |
| sdague | until such time that you can get a fully working python3 | 14:01 |
| sdague | so you don't have to run with mixed env | 14:02 |
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| jd__ | can someone explains me why we have both tests/ and oslo_config/tests in oslo.config? | 14:20 |
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| haypo | sdague, "I'd expect that it's going to take 6 - 12 months to stabalize actual servers on python 3 runs to have the equal or lesser race failures than on python 2.7" well, before that we need applications supporting python 3, no? | 14:21 |
| sileht | jd__, tests in tests/ tests the oslo_config with namespace package name | 14:21 |
| sileht | jd__, oslo_config/tests with oslo_config package name | 14:21 |
| jd__ | sileht: so I'm supposed to duplicate all the tests? | 14:22 |
| sileht | jd__, tests/ will be removed soon I guess | 14:22 |
| jd__ | ok | 14:22 |
| sileht | jd__, no | 14:22 |
| jd__ | bah bah | 14:22 |
| sileht | jd__, new tests must go in oslo_config/tests | 14:22 |
| jd__ | yeah I just need to update some twice :) | 14:22 |
| haypo | jd__, dhellmann wanted to ensure that tests still pass using the old oslo namespace | 14:22 |
| sileht | jd__, unfortunatly, sometimes yes | 14:22 |
| jd__ | it's ok as long as we remove them at some point I can live with that | 14:23 |
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| haypo | i would appreciate to drop all these duplicated tests :-) i already had to fix a bug twice (tests, something/tests) | 14:23 |
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| dhellmann | jd__: don't write duplicate tests, I'm working on removing the namespace package | 16:24 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: zuul has been restarted to troubleshoot an issue, gerrit events between 15:00-17:00 utc were lost and changes updated or approved during that time will need to be rechecked or have their approval votes readded to trigger testing | 17:04 | |
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| zigo | dhellmann: In fact, Debian is *already* switching to mysqlclient, as per version 1.3.4 already in Debian experimental !!! | 17:12 |
| zigo | I didn't see it, because it's the same package name, just its content was replaced. | 17:13 |
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| harlowja | sileht ok, futurist it is | 17:23 |
| harlowja | let it be | 17:23 |
| harlowja | and https://github.com/harlowja/futurist was born, begin the fun merge over part, lol | 17:25 |
| harlowja | ^ will try to keep it minimal and have most of it be via reviews | 17:25 |
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| harlowja | sileht ok https://pypi.python.org/pypi/futurist/ registered; so now nobody can take it, lol | 18:18 |
| harlowja | good enough to suck over into openstack; and can fix other things via gerrit from here out | 18:19 |
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| dhellmann | zigo: that's good to know, thanks -- I don't know enough about the various policies to always understand when we might make a decision that causes us trouble, so I appreciate your help keeping us on the smooth path | 18:30 |
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| harlowja | dims whatever happened to that oslo kilo etherpad where we wrote stuff about the kilo release | 20:16 |
| harlowja | did that ever get mailed out to anyone? | 20:16 |
| * harlowja can't remember, ha | 20:16 | |
| dims | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-highlights | 20:16 |
| dims | nope, did not get mailed out | 20:16 |
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| sdague | zzzeek: so the fact that nova has all those schema tests in test_migrations is enforced by oslo.db test_migrations mixin... | 20:29 |
| sdague | how would you feel about changing that? | 20:29 |
| zzzeek | um | 20:30 |
| sdague | zzzeek: I tried to propose dumping the useless tests here - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180134/ but the mixin failed it | 20:30 |
| zzzeek | let me see | 20:30 |
| sdague | you can see in the py27 test results | 20:30 |
| zzzeek | sdague: when i first started working with openstack i was totally unfamilar with this idea of unit testing migrations, at least like this. It’s good to have something that just runs the migrations from bottom to top and makes sure they succeed. but the way we run each one individually in these things is strange because yes, we are just testing that one of our libraries works, that library should have its own tests | 20:31 |
| sdague | zzzeek: right, so I wrote this framework originally for nova | 20:32 |
| sdague | the point was not what it turned into | 20:32 |
| zzzeek | sdague: so…all the test migration stuff in oslo, im not really that familiar with. | 20:32 |
| sdague | the point was data migrations where we were moving 3 tables with int ids to UUIDs with FK relationships | 20:34 |
| sdague | so you could populate some data | 20:34 |
| sdague | run the migraiton | 20:34 |
| zzzeek | sdague: i do have to work on getting everyone everywhere to move to alembic and within that I probably have to design a reasonable system of testing which would modify the oslo.db thing a lot most likely, if you have suggestions that would be helpful | 20:34 |
| sdague | and makes sure all the rows cross referenced each other correctly | 20:34 |
| zzzeek | sdague: OK well then that seems like you sohuld be able to test specific migrations but without linking it all into all of them unconditionally. | 20:34 |
| zzzeek | sdague: would be nice to jsut change the oslo.db mixin to be more lenient | 20:34 |
| sdague | right, agreed | 20:34 |
| sdague | that's what I'm asking, as you are oslo.db guru :) | 20:34 |
| zzzeek | sdague: class-level flags, “run_more_difficult_tests = False” ? | 20:34 |
| sdague | I have no idea | 20:34 |
| zzzeek | sdague: yes but ive really stayed out of the migrations part as it all seems a little nutty | 20:34 |
| sdague | this code is way different than what I wrote | 20:34 |
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| zzzeek | sdague: OK. well I’m +1 to diulte the systems in oslo.db for now but it woudl be nice to keep it involved so that we can push up some nicer paradigms as we move to alembic | 20:35 |
| sdague | sure | 20:35 |
| zzzeek | sdague: in this case, if you dropped the oslo.db dependency, do we have to take code from oslo.db and re-implement it here in nova? | 20:35 |
| sdague | did you read the comment block in - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180134/ | 20:35 |
| zigo | dhellmann: In the case of Debian, I'm not sure we have a policy for this kind of thing. It's all up to the package maintainer to decide, and here, I believe it was a correct decision. | 20:36 |
| zzzeek | sdague: yes | 20:36 |
| sdague | yeh, which honestly, I'm not a huge fan of test mixins | 20:36 |
| sdague | but I'm not going to unpack that for now | 20:36 |
| zigo | sdague: zzzeek: Hi guys! :) | 20:36 |
| zigo | Looking forward to meet you in Vancouver. | 20:36 |
| zzzeek | sdague: OK well test bases I like only to the extent that difficult patterns like connecting to different databases and stuff can be handled in just one place | 20:37 |
| zigo | Especially zzzeek who I missed in Atlanta & Paris. | 20:37 |
| zigo | zzzeek: Will you be there? | 20:37 |
| zzzeek | sdague: and that I’ve implemented in oslo where it currently hides behind the MySQLOpportunistic and PostgresqlOpportunistic bases | 20:37 |
| zzzeek | zigo:yes | 20:37 |
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| zigo | gr8 | 20:37 |
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| sdague | zzzeek: yep, that's fine. I'll propose a patch and we can see. | 20:38 |
| elmiko | hi, i have a few questions about oslo.config best practices for usage in a library-type package. are there any examples or guides on this? | 20:39 |
| zzzeek | sdague: my thing is always, I dont want every openstack project all implementing the same boilerplate database code that shoudl be in oslo.db | 20:39 |
| zzzeek | sdague: that’s pretty much the only thing that bothers me | 20:39 |
| zzzeek | sdague: and it is…everywhere :) | 20:39 |
| sdague | zzzeek: sure, I'm fine with that. Let me poke later this week and see what I can come up with | 20:40 |
| zzzeek | sdague: k | 20:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Use class static dumps/loads https://review.openstack.org/180347 | 22:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Deprecate upgrade (that now is moved to initialize) https://review.openstack.org/180351 | 23:38 |
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