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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Smarter declaration of the notification queue https://review.openstack.org/179270 | 06:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Dump kombu and amqp requirements https://review.openstack.org/179356 | 06:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: TEST: enable heartbeat https://review.openstack.org/179359 | 06:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Use default exchange for reply queue https://review.openstack.org/179388 | 06:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit/qpid: simplify the consumer loop https://review.openstack.org/178961 | 06:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: always delete unused queues after a while https://review.openstack.org/179708 | 06:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: always delete unused queues after a while https://review.openstack.org/179708 | 06:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lei Zhang proposed openstack/taskflow: Fix a typo in taskflow docs https://review.openstack.org/179755 | 10:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Sergeyev proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Test https://review.openstack.org/179052 | 12:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Sergeyev proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: WIP: Add RequestContextSerializer https://review.openstack.org/179772 | 13:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Victor Sergeyev proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Test https://review.openstack.org/179052 | 13:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-dev/pbr: Allow overwriting sphinx builder from command line https://review.openstack.org/117478 | 13:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: Tool to abandon old reviews https://review.openstack.org/179780 | 13:46 |
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| * dims cleaning up old reviews | 13:59 | |
| jd__ | dims: you are going to make me angry | 14:04 |
| jd__ | I maintain my patches carefully so yeah we need everything I propose, I need people to review my patches, not try to make me abandon them :-P | 14:05 |
| jd__ | c'mon :) | 14:05 |
| dims | jd__: this is a way to jumpstart discussion (bring it into active view). | 14:08 |
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| jd__ | dims: I like how optimistic you are! | 14:08 |
| jd__ | ok, I'll wait for reviewers to converge right now! :-) | 14:09 |
| dims | haha | 14:09 |
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| dims | jd__: we can talk about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148500/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136842/ on the meeting today if you wish | 14:10 |
| dims | those 2 have conflicts (-1 or -2) | 14:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: fix consumers declaration https://review.openstack.org/179271 | 14:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: remove unused consumer interfaces https://review.openstack.org/179153 | 14:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Smarter declaration of the notification queue https://review.openstack.org/179270 | 14:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: remove unused code https://review.openstack.org/179152 | 14:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: Set timeout on the underlying socket https://review.openstack.org/179357 | 14:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Dump kombu and amqp requirements https://review.openstack.org/179356 | 14:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: TEST: enable heartbeat https://review.openstack.org/179359 | 14:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Use default exchange for reply queue https://review.openstack.org/179388 | 14:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: fix exception path in queue redeclaration https://review.openstack.org/179275 | 14:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: Remove unused stuffs from publisher https://review.openstack.org/179130 | 14:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit/qpid: simplify the consumer loop https://review.openstack.org/178961 | 14:12 |
| dims | Whoa sileht! | 14:12 |
| sileht | dims, I have decided to remove some useless code ! | 14:13 |
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| jd__ | dims: sure | 14:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.rootwrap: Remove mentions of root "tests" package from test_funcional_* https://review.openstack.org/179608 | 14:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bogdan Dobrelya proposed openstack/oslo.log: Deprecate use-syslog-rfc-format for removal https://review.openstack.org/146082 | 14:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.concurrency: Remove run_cross_tests.sh https://review.openstack.org/179470 | 14:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.config: Remove run_cross_tests.sh https://review.openstack.org/179471 | 14:41 |
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| krotscheck | Just FYI- I'd be happy to be a liason for 'code that I wrote' until such time as someone pays me oddles of money not to. | 14:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.log: Deprecate WritableLogger - used for eventlet logging https://review.openstack.org/179808 | 15:09 |
| dims | krotscheck: ha. thanks! | 15:10 |
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| dims | zzzeek: so we need a new oslo.db release for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168942/ ? | 15:45 |
| zzzeek | dims: it isn’t urgent | 15:46 |
| dims | zzzeek: that's against "stable/kilo" hence asking | 15:46 |
| zzzeek | dims: should be in whatever the next release is. if this is like, “the last release for kilo”, OK | 15:46 |
| zzzeek | dims: it’s unlikely to affect kilo at this point | 15:46 |
| zzzeek | dims: has to do with if I put out a SQLAlchemy release wiht a versino umber like 0.9.10post1 | 15:47 |
| zzzeek | dims: if i did that, this test would break | 15:47 |
| zzzeek | dims: hard to say from my end. im surprised this fix is in stable/kilo, did we already merge in master for liberty ? | 15:48 |
| dims | zzzeek: yes, i see it in master already | 15:48 |
| zzzeek | dims: ok | 15:48 |
| zzzeek | dims: i didnt notice this was in stable/kilo. not sure how critical it is for that. | 15:49 |
| zzzeek | dims: OK | 15:50 |
| dims | zzzeek: can you please mark it as workflow -1 for now, let's talk during open discussion? | 15:52 |
| zzzeek | dims: yes, looked like you just did that... | 15:52 |
| dims | no i took it out when i saw your +W | 15:52 |
| zzzeek | dims: yeah i jumped the gun :) | 15:52 |
| dims | no worries | 15:52 |
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| sileht | harlowja_at_home, 'avenir' is a french homonym of 'future' | 16:01 |
| harlowja_at_home | sileht, hmmm, might not be a bad name then :-P | 16:01 |
| harlowja_at_home | either way i also have http://sourceforge.net/p/pypi/support-requests/494/ going on | 16:01 |
| harlowja_at_home | can get one of those :-P | 16:01 |
| sileht | harlowja_at_home, tardis is clearly a better name :p | 16:01 |
| sileht | harlowja_at_home, let's fallback to avenir if we wan't get tardis, so | 16:02 |
| harlowja_at_home | cools | 16:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Build-out + test a redis backed jobboard https://review.openstack.org/176951 | 16:08 |
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| krotscheck | So, can I trouble someone for a middleware release? | 16:13 |
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| harlowja_at_home | sileht, i'm not sure how long that 494 support request will take, hopefully not to long, i'll poke that request later today (to see if I can get an idea about how long it takes) | 16:20 |
| krotscheck | dhellmann, dims: Can I trouble one of you two to a middleware release? | 16:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Vanderwiel proposed openstack/oslo.config: Option name missing from ConfigFileValueError https://review.openstack.org/179835 | 16:22 |
| krotscheck | Process question: What's the correct place to propose a specification that applies to _all_ of the openstack services? | 16:27 |
| harlowja_at_home | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/openstack-specs,n,z ? | 16:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tooz: Have run_watchers take a timeout and respect it https://review.openstack.org/176417 | 16:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo-incubator: Move tools to release-tools https://review.openstack.org/179247 | 16:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tooz: Use pymemcache pooled client https://review.openstack.org/179550 | 17:02 |
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| krotscheck | dhellmann, dims: Ping? | 18:00 |
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| dhellmann | krotscheck: pong | 18:07 |
| krotscheck | dhellmann: Can I trouble you for that middleware release today, or are you swamped? | 18:08 |
| dhellmann | krotscheck: my morning went to hell, but I could do a release now. dims, were you going to do that or should I? | 18:08 |
| dims | dhellmann: if you are free, sure. thanks | 18:08 |
| dhellmann | dims: ok, I'll do it | 18:08 |
| krotscheck | dims, dhellmann: Thanks! | 18:08 |
| * krotscheck is writing the x-project spec that will support its inclusion :) | 18:09 | |
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| dhellmann | krotscheck: that was from master, right? | 18:11 |
| krotscheck | dhellmann: Yep | 18:11 |
| dhellmann | krotscheck: ok, just double checking | 18:11 |
| krotscheck | grazie | 18:11 |
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| dhellmann | krotscheck: done | 18:15 |
| krotscheck | dhellmann: Sweet, thanks! | 18:15 |
| krotscheck | dhellmann: 0.3.0? | 18:16 |
| krotscheck | n/m, just got the email | 18:20 |
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| dhellmann | krotscheck: should be 1.2.0 from master, right? | 18:22 |
| krotscheck | dhellmann: Yep. my gmail search brought up the one from the borked revision script you ran a few weeks ago. | 18:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Add middleware to support ssl termination proxies https://review.openstack.org/174025 | 18:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/debtcollector: Allow providing the deprecation category https://review.openstack.org/177848 | 18:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/177129 | 18:50 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.rootwrap: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/177237 | 18:50 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/177240 | 18:50 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/stevedore: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/179877 | 18:51 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/taskflow: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/179878 | 18:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo-specs: Add an adopt tardis spec to adopt/create that codebase https://review.openstack.org/179890 | 19:14 |
| harlowja_ | sileht ^ | 19:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo-specs: Add an adopt tardis spec to adopt/create that codebase https://review.openstack.org/179890 | 19:16 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: how would I go about getting access to make releases of pbr ? | 19:21 |
| harlowja_ | impassible! | 19:22 |
| * harlowja_ needs to go fix that testtools PR lol | 19:22 | |
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| harlowja_ | *fixtures i mean | 19:22 |
| lifeless | dims: ^ (how would I go about getting access to make releases of pbr ?) | 19:23 |
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| dims | lifeless: done | 19:25 |
| dims | lifeless: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/387,members | 19:25 |
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| lifeless | dims: that was easy, ta :) | 19:27 |
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| dims | lifeless: just keep us in the loop :) | 19:32 |
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| lifeless | dims: for sure | 19:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tooz: Add zookeeper tag in setup.cfg https://review.openstack.org/179505 | 19:47 |
| harlowja_ | lifeless https://github.com/testing-cabal/fixtures/pull/8 ok, should be all fixed up boss | 19:47 |
| * harlowja_ dislikes PR(s) | 19:48 | |
| lifeless | dims: see openstack-dev :) | 19:53 |
| dims | dhellmann: versionutils.py seems to be under the wrong spot? https://github.com/openstack/oslo.log/blob/master/openstack/common/versionutils.py | 19:53 |
| lifeless | harlowja_: thanks | 19:53 |
| dims | dhellmann: should be under https://github.com/openstack/oslo.log/blob/master/oslo_log/openstack/common/versionutils.py | 19:53 |
| dims | no? | 19:54 |
| dims | lifeless: ack | 19:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/tooz: Provide and use a options collapsing function https://review.openstack.org/179529 | 19:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-dev/pbr: Stop re-invoking pip https://review.openstack.org/175369 | 20:00 |
| lifeless | harlowja_: PR's are just gerrit without the shiny git-review wrapper | 20:01 |
| harlowja_ | ya, except u can't easily collapse things down into one commit right (when someone wants further changes, and u don't do a --force or whatever) | 20:01 |
| lifeless | harlowja_: github is entirely fine with history rewrites | 20:01 |
| harlowja_ | hmmm | 20:01 |
| lifeless | harlowja_: git rebase -i... git push -f | 20:01 |
| harlowja_ | ya, that | 20:01 |
| harlowja_ | seems dirty, lol | 20:01 |
| lifeless | its exactly the same :) | 20:02 |
| harlowja_ | k | 20:02 |
| harlowja_ | guess i should do that more than for github | 20:02 |
| lifeless | for branches other people track | 20:02 |
| lifeless | e.g. master in the official repo | 20:02 |
| lifeless | *thats* where -f is naughty | 20:02 |
| lifeless | you can be specific about which branch you're -fing: git push -f origin featureN | 20:03 |
| harlowja_ | kk, i shall do that then in the future | 20:03 |
| harlowja_ | thx | 20:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Add ability to use tooz to find and advertise workers https://review.openstack.org/151495 | 20:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/179912 | 20:08 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.vmware: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/179913 | 20:08 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslosphinx: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/179914 | 20:08 |
| dims | dhellmann: never mind, found the series in progress | 20:12 |
| dhellmann | dims: I think you resolved that before I started looking at it? | 20:13 |
| dims | dhellmann: just realized this was still pending - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/oslo.log+branch:master+topic:bp/graduate-oslo-versionutils,n,z | 20:14 |
| dhellmann | dims: yes, needs more reviews I think | 20:15 |
| dhellmann | I wasn't pushing for that before the summit because we're all so busy | 20:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.log: Deprecate WritableLogger - used for eventlet logging https://review.openstack.org/179808 | 20:16 |
| dims | gotcha. i just added mine to that series | 20:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.log: Deprecate WritableLogger - used for eventlet logging https://review.openstack.org/179808 | 20:17 |
| dhellmann | dims: we have the same deprecation question there as with jd__'s patch: is it ok to just warn, or should we do more to publicize it | 20:17 |
| dims | dhellmann: still thinking about it, no good answers | 20:18 |
| dims | dhellmann: which script do you use to check for unreleased changes? | 20:20 |
| dhellmann | dims: hang on, it's in flight to the release-tools repo | 20:21 |
| dims | ah ok thanks | 20:21 |
| dhellmann | dims: you want this patch series: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179396/ | 20:21 |
| dhellmann | there is a version in oslo-incubator/tools, but it requires more setup work on your part | 20:21 |
| dims | thanks! | 20:22 |
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| lifeless | dhellmann: so https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179245/ - I've commented there, but it seems like a pbr facility | 20:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Remove run_cross_tests.sh https://review.openstack.org/179476 | 20:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.rootwrap: Remove run_cross_tests.sh https://review.openstack.org/179477 | 20:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.serialization: Remove run_cross_tests.sh https://review.openstack.org/179478 | 20:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/taskflow: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/179878 | 21:07 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: I do not want to hide release tools inside pbr | 21:09 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: I wasn't proposing that we hide the entire repo; the specific 'what isn't released in this project' is the bit I was referring to | 21:10 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: since that is something pbr already knows and calculates | 21:10 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: yes, I got that -- I don't want to put those tools inside the library | 21:10 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: I have some tooling I want to be able to use, for non-openstack projects | 21:11 |
| dhellmann | they don't really need to be installed anywhere, they need to work with more than one repo at a time, etc. | 21:11 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: my intent, which was captured in the approved pbr spec about semver, was to put that in pbr | 21:11 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: specifically, calculating the next release version tag, so you can do 'git tag -s $(pbr next-release)' - that sort of thing | 21:12 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: ok. I wrote this stuff and have been using it for the last release cycle, so I'm really just moving it from one place to another. | 21:12 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: I very very much will never do that. | 21:12 |
| dhellmann | I will pick release numbers myself, and pbr had best let me. | 21:12 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: pbr will always defer to git | 21:13 |
| dhellmann | ok, cool | 21:13 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: but its job is to reduce human error | 21:13 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: if we've committed an API break, and we're doing semver, doing a point release is human error | 21:14 |
| dhellmann | pbr can't tell what we've done in the code, so it is still relying on someone to get that right. I would rather rely on the release manager than the individual contributor. | 21:14 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: again, pbr will defer to git, so you have that choice | 21:15 |
| lifeless | the sem-ver pseudo headers let reviewers capture the presence of an API break so that pbr can report on it | 21:15 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: I'm feeling a very negative vibe here, and I'm not sure why. I want to make things better for everyone; I'm concerned that stuff I want to use elsewhere will be blocked because of your having other stuff in release-tools | 21:16 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: if you don't object to having stuff you don't have to use in pbr, then I won't worry | 21:17 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: you can choose to reduce duplication if the pbr stuff ends up being duplicative - it may not. | 21:18 |
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| dhellmann | lifeless: I won't block things going into pbr as long as they don't conflict with the way we are already releasing things. I built these tools in a way that I could understand, to solve an immediate need. If they are eventually deprecated that's fine. | 21:18 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: I have no interest or intent to coerc its use | 21:18 |
| dhellmann | I tend to run tools across many repos at one time, so I'll need some sort of wrapper script on top of pbr anyway. | 21:19 |
| dhellmann | "Tell me all of the unreleased oslo patches" or "Release all of these libraries" | 21:19 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: certainly, I wasn't proposing putting the map-reduce stuff, nor the email templates or any of that in pbr | 21:19 |
| lifeless | one thing that we may want to do is to separate out the querying of git from pbr's core | 21:20 |
| lifeless | so that we can talk about non-python git repos sensibly | 21:20 |
| dhellmann | that makes sense | 21:21 |
| lifeless | we could keep that in the pbr codebase and expose it through the pbr CLI | 21:21 |
| lifeless | or we could move it elsewhere and vendor it back into pbr | 21:21 |
| lifeless | what we can't sensibly do today is move it elsewhere and just depend on it | 21:21 |
| lifeless | (because setup_requires) | 21:21 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 21:21 |
| lifeless | I'd be in favour of a query interface on the pbr CLI | 21:21 |
| lifeless | separately | 21:22 |
| dhellmann | exposing it through the cli seems reasonable, although I could also see that being sort of useful on its own as a git plugin. | 21:22 |
| lifeless | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179243/1/highest_semver.py - this isn't pep-440 ready - how do youwant the fix | 21:22 |
| dhellmann | in what way does it not support what we actually do in openstack? | 21:23 |
| dhellmann | with libraries, since it's only used there | 21:23 |
| lifeless | pre-releases can potentially sort wrongly | 21:23 |
| dhellmann | we don't have pre-releases | 21:23 |
| dhellmann | not any more | 21:23 |
| lifeless | sorted(list_of_tags, key=packaging.version.parse) | 21:23 |
| lifeless | will DTRT | 21:24 |
| dhellmann | if you want to submit a patch for that, that's fine -- I'm not convinced we care from a practical standpoint, though | 21:24 |
| dhellmann | I'm really only trying to solve for the cases we actually have to deal with | 21:25 |
| lifeless | I'll put it on my eventual-yak-stack | 21:25 |
| dhellmann | k | 21:25 |
| lifeless | sure, this is more from the angle of 'lets not have a time-bomb that only a few people know about bite us in future when something changes' | 21:25 |
| * dhellmann refrains from making any comments on the half-life of python packaging peps | 21:26 | |
| dhellmann | tbh, the less of the pypa code I rely on for these tools, the better I feel. I've been told by too many folks involved in those projects that API compatibility is explicitly not a concern they have. | 21:26 |
| lifeless | now I have the song radioactive/inactive in my head | 21:27 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: I believe that that is specific to the cli's. Let me ask | 21:27 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: it was a pkg_resources call stevedore used at one point and then something from setuptools itself at another point, iirc | 21:28 |
| lifeless | pkg_resources is meant to be a stable API | 21:29 |
| lifeless | setuptools less so, AIUI | 21:29 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: but the strength of the response and lack of any concern at all for breaking things on every release just makes me shy away from the tools | 21:29 |
| lifeless | sure, I can understand that | 21:29 |
| dhellmann | pkg_resources.EntryPoint.load() broke when an argument was removed, and I finally argued them into creating a separate API for that. | 21:29 |
| dhellmann | meanwhile I had a lot of angry stevedore users at the gates | 21:30 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: these are stories best told over adult beverages at the summit; it's EOD here, so I'm going to disconnect | 21:30 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: have a good evening | 21:30 |
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| harlowja_ | ohhh, i want to hear those stories | 21:57 |
| harlowja_ | :) | 21:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo-specs: Add an adopt tardis spec to adopt/create that codebase https://review.openstack.org/179890 | 22:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo-specs: Add an adopt tardis spec to adopt/create that codebase https://review.openstack.org/179890 | 22:00 |
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| lifeless | harlowja: fixtures 1.2.0 released | 22:15 |
| harlowja | cools | 22:15 |
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| harlowja | lifeless hopefully makes it easier for people to test with fixtures the stuff in debtcollector (which uses warnings module extensively) | 22:18 |
| bknudson | is there a warnings fixture? | 22:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/tooz: Provide and use a options collapsing function https://review.openstack.org/179529 | 22:19 |
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| harlowja | bknudson there is now :-P | 22:23 |
| harlowja | a few hours ago there wasn't, lol | 22:23 |
| bknudson | I was thinking of working on one | 22:23 |
| bknudson | now I just need to find some docs | 22:23 |
| harlowja | https://github.com/testing-cabal/fixtures/pull/8 | 22:24 |
| harlowja | ^ nothing that special | 22:24 |
| bknudson | ah, could be useful but not really what I was looking for | 22:25 |
| harlowja | ah | 22:26 |
| harlowja | what u looking for? | 22:26 |
| bknudson | harlowja: essentially https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/tests/unit/core.py#L250-L253 | 22:27 |
| bknudson | but I'd also like to be able to disable it for some tests somehow. | 22:27 |
| harlowja | gotcha, ya, slightly different | 22:27 |
| harlowja | maybe can improve that fixture one then | 22:27 |
| harlowja | seems like it could be made 'more capable' | 22:28 |
| bknudson | being able to capture the warnings would be super handy | 22:28 |
| harlowja | ya, thats what the fixture does | 22:28 |
| harlowja | it does just do it selectively like the keystone core one | 22:28 |
| harlowja | *doesn't do it | 22:28 |
| bknudson | essentially you'd like to be able to say that this deprecation is expected. | 22:29 |
| harlowja | ya | 22:29 |
| bknudson | self.warnings = fixtures.Warnings(module='^keystone\\.') | 22:30 |
| bknudson | then for a test should be able to say -- self.warnings.expect_deprecated('whatever') | 22:30 |
| bknudson | or maybe -- at start of test -- self.warnings.expect_deprecated = True, self.warnings.assert_deprecated_message('whatever') | 22:31 |
| harlowja | sure | 22:32 |
| harlowja | sounds like a useful addition :-P | 22:32 |
| lifeless | so if you capture them all | 22:40 |
| lifeless | an assertion that a particular warning is in the set seems straight forward | 22:41 |
| lifeless | happy to see some sugar around it | 22:41 |
| lifeless | rather than an assertion on the fixture, I suggest a matcher - self.expectThat(self.warnings, HasDeprecation(...)) | 22:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/tooz: Expose memcache coord. class constants https://review.openstack.org/179963 | 22:47 |
| harlowja | lifeless ya, let's see if bknudson proposes that :) | 22:48 |
| harlowja | some sugar | 22:48 |
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