Tuesday, 2017-03-14

openstackgerritSTEW TY proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.resize_confirm notification  https://review.openstack.org/39065400:01
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Abort Cold Migration  https://review.openstack.org/33473200:05
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openstackgerritAnusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova master: Add description to policies to availability_zone  https://review.openstack.org/44083600:11
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova-specs master: List/show all server migration types  https://review.openstack.org/40723700:15
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova-specs master: List/show all server migration types  https://review.openstack.org/40723700:15
openstackgerritSivasathurappan Radhakrishnan proposed openstack/nova master: Allow live migrate paused instance when post copy is enabled  https://review.openstack.org/44451700:16
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openstackgerritAnusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova master: Add description to volumes_attachments.py  https://review.openstack.org/44525200:26
openstackgerritSTEW TY proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.resize_revert notification  https://review.openstack.org/39681100:29
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/44335700:54
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openstackgerritSTEW TY proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.rescue notifications  https://review.openstack.org/38564401:01
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Enable cold migration with target host(1/2)  https://review.openstack.org/40895504:26
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Enable cold migration with target host(2/2)  https://review.openstack.org/40896404:27
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: List/show all server migration types  https://review.openstack.org/43060804:27
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: Add parameters in cold migrate action  https://review.openstack.org/41004204:28
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Add functional tests for cold migration to same host  https://review.openstack.org/41492604:28
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Refactor a test method including 3 test cases  https://review.openstack.org/39473804:30
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Refactor a test method including 7 test cases  https://review.openstack.org/39543604:30
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Repropose tag-instance-when-boot  https://review.openstack.org/41531506:23
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gmannsfinucan: thansk, actually my concern is we are separating options in this release only, means old one is still available for neutron also - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/431038/406:39
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vks1hi i built my environment using devstack. i am trying with ocata . my instances are always stucked intp "Scheduling" state06:48
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Send out notifications when instance tags chaned  https://review.openstack.org/42956906:51
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: Don't delete neutron port when attach failed  https://review.openstack.org/40356806:57
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Repropose tag-instance-when-boot  https://review.openstack.org/41531507:00
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crusioi'm using ova image to create VM on vmware, i got the error in nova compute log: "VimFaultException: A specified parameter was not correct: fileType" , can somebody help me?07:30
crusioit is doing "copy_virtual_disk" in the process of creating virtual machine07:32
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openstackgerritDinesh Bhor proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Remove duplicate methods  https://review.openstack.org/44533807:37
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bauzasp!spy07:58
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: fixed typos and reword stable api doc  https://review.openstack.org/44231008:11
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openstackgerritMaho Koshiya proposed openstack/nova master: Add interfaces functional negative tests  https://review.openstack.org/44289208:36
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openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Let us see how terrible to remove stevedore  https://review.openstack.org/44536108:42
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robcresswellQuick question; someone's added a patch to Horizon that hides the Soft Reboot button if the Instance state is anything other than Active; is this correct? Had a look at the API docs but they only seem to show how to form the request, not any of the conditions around its usage.09:04
jaosoriorgibi: hey, could you revisit this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/444947/ ? Had a typo on a test :/09:04
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gibijaosorior: hi! looking...09:21
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gibijaosorior: +1 from me :)09:22
jaosoriorgibi: thanks09:23
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asettleMorning nova!10:09
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asettlejohnthetubaguy or bauzas - do you konw anyone that could help out with Brian's request here?10:09
asettlehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/438328/10:09
asettleApparently the instructions are looking good, but just need someone to help out with the Ubuntu steps to make sure they're all okay.10:10
asettleMaybe nicolasbock later? :)10:10
johnthetubaguyasettle: sorry, I don't really know of anyone that uses the distro packages10:11
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asettleNo problem johnthetubaguy :)10:11
bauzasme too10:11
asettleKevin_Zheng: if you're able to help, lemme know!10:11
asettlebauzas: as in, you don't know anyone either?10:11
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bauzasI'm a Hatter, so .deb packages are not known by me :p10:11
asettlebauzas: if you're able to test the instructions using RHEL or CentOS that would be even *more* awesome? :D10:12
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vks1hi, i need help. instances on my openstack ocata setup are getting stucked in Scheduling state10:18
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: conf: Move 'floating_ips' opts into 'network'  https://review.openstack.org/43103910:28
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: conf: Deprecate 'default_floating_pool'  https://review.openstack.org/43103810:28
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: conf: Add neutron.floating_pool  https://review.openstack.org/43103710:28
sfinucangmann: ^10:28
sfinucanthink that's what you're suggesting?10:28
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sfinucanjaypipes: You have a good Gerrit dash that includes os-vif?10:29
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* sfinucan is missing os-vif reviews as he's no easy way to find them10:30
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openstackgerritRoman Podoliaka proposed openstack/nova master: nova-status: require placement >= 1.4  https://review.openstack.org/44188110:41
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openstackgerritRoman Podoliaka proposed openstack/nova master: Make eventlet hub use a monotonic clock  https://review.openstack.org/43432710:42
openstackgerritRoman Podoliaka proposed openstack/nova master: block_device: fix propagation of instance AZ to Cinder  https://review.openstack.org/36672410:42
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lyarwoodmdbooth / johnthetubaguy ; https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/cinder-new-attach-apis - if you have any bandwidth today/tomorrow the DB & object changes here could really use some attention before the next cinder/nova meeting on Thursday11:11
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: conf: Improve documentation for defer_iptables_apply  https://review.openstack.org/44543611:18
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Remove templates from approved/implemented specs  https://review.openstack.org/40555011:21
sfinucanjohnthetubaguy: did you mean remove specs/backlog-template.rst or update it? ^11:22
alex_xugmann: just done the review for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421760/, sorry for the late11:23
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fricklersdague: cdent hinted that you might have more information (as in some documentation) regarding the replacement of the %(tenant_id)s in the compute endpoints11:26
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Fix backwards compatibility for InstanceNUMACell  https://review.openstack.org/39618411:35
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Combine obj_make_compatible tests  https://review.openstack.org/42626111:35
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nicolasbockasettle, I am going through the instructions again for SLES 12 (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438328)11:36
asettlenicolasbock: great :D11:36
asettlethanks11:36
nicolasbockasettle, no problem11:36
asettleLet me know if you run into anything/updates :)11:37
asettleWould appreciate it11:37
nicolasbockdefinitely11:37
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Remove templates from approved/implemented specs  https://review.openstack.org/40555011:38
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Using max api version in notificationt sample test  https://review.openstack.org/44368611:41
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jaypipessfinucan: unfortunately, no. :(11:52
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jaypipessfinucan: I used to use gertty but since reformatting my workstation haven't installed it because it takes so long to sync and I forgot to backup my gertty.db11:53
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Short circuit notifiations when not enabled  https://review.openstack.org/42826011:53
sfinucanjaypipes: Oh, yes. I forgot you use gertty11:54
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* sfinucan has it on his todo list, but inertia is a wonderful thing11:55
cdentsfinucan, jaypipes : I had to give up on gertty because of sync problems11:56
jaypipescdent: ya11:56
cdentIt's too easy to think you're up to date only to find out you're not11:56
jaypipesyep11:56
cdentafter making a mess11:57
jaypipesthough it's easy enough to do that with the web UI as well ;)11:57
sdaguefrickler: it's just not needed at all any more when you create endpoint definitions11:57
sdaguefrickler: what are you looking for in particular?11:58
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fricklerfrickler: 1. how the endpoint should look like instead. 2. how to upgrade old installations 3. some doc to link to for the change in our deployment scripts/guides12:03
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fricklersdague: ^^12:04
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fricklersdague: like in step 4 here http://docs-draft.openstack.org/28/438328/10/check/gate-openstack-manuals-tox-doc-publish-checkbuild/5844224//publish-docs/draft/install-guide-ubuntu/nova-controller-install.html#prerequisites12:05
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sdaguefrickler: ah, where is the source doc for that? I didn't realize that never was updated12:07
sdaguebasically you just don't include %(tenant_id)s12:08
fricklersdague: that is a change that updates the doc, 43832812:08
sdaguefrickler: ok, https://review.openstack.org/445462 is the doc update12:17
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fricklersdague: great, thx12:19
fricklersdague: should one also update this for existing installations? if yes, during upgrade to which release?12:20
sdaguefrickler: well, it works either way, but I think this starts working in Mitaka12:22
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sdaguehttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/409f04b2185cc2da9bf4452b20b3d3d9b03beab8/nova/api/openstack/compute/rest_api_version_history.rst#L167-L16912:24
sdagueyeh, that's in the Mitaka range12:24
sdagueMitaka was 2.2512:24
fricklerhmm, but "works either way" would make me rather not change an existing setup12:25
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openstackgerritTadas ustinavičius proposed openstack/nova master: Implements: blueprint custom-emulator-path  https://review.openstack.org/44546612:26
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sdaguefrickler: that's fine, we were doing a soft transition.12:30
sdaguewe should document this is the prefered mechanism going forward, and honestly probably backport that installguide change12:30
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vdrokjaypipes: cdent good morning. when you're around, wanted to discuss https://review.openstack.org/443628. these are the integration tests for resource classes in ironic. for now I just copy-pasted some stuff in the services/placement there to make the calls to placement api. and from what I heard from jaypipes there is no plan to have such client in tempest?12:42
vdrokshould we just put some stripped out version that will be doing get requests to some subset of endpoints in our tempest plugin?12:42
cdentvdrok: looking12:42
openstackgerritGábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.volume_attach notification  https://review.openstack.org/40199212:47
openstackgerritGábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.volume_detach notification  https://review.openstack.org/40867612:50
openstackgerritGábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.volume_detach notification  https://review.openstack.org/40867612:51
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cdentvdrok: there are no immediate plans for creating a tempest client, since as you've discovered it is relatively easy to create one that "just does requests".12:53
vdrokcdent: yup, for me personally, there is no problem with that. just thought that at least neutron may want to reuse it12:54
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vdrokjroll: so, are you ok with keeping the minimal client in our tree?12:56
cdentvdrok: they've got one that they started too (internal to neutron, not part of tempest). I suspect at some point we'll want to extract something to remove duplication.12:56
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cdentvdrok: there's also a branch that was started to create a proper python-placementclient:12:56
cdenthttps://github.com/miguellavalle/python-placementclient/tree/adding-grp-support12:56
cdentbut it ended up feeling like overkill12:56
cdentat some point it will be necessary though as there are plans for managing things like shared disk from the command line12:57
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vdrokmhm, I see, thanks cdent !12:58
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openstackgerritGábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.reboot notifications  https://review.openstack.org/38295912:59
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jrollvdrok: if we agree those tests are useful, yes, I'm fine with that client in our tree for now13:10
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raghavwhile doing devstack of ocata release13:11
raghavi am getting below error from nova13:11
vdrokjroll: do you think it would be enough just having the functional ones in nova?13:11
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raghavNO hosts found to map to cell13:12
raghavi have not enabled n-cell then why13:12
raghavcell related error is coming13:12
jrollvdrok: yeah, probably, but more tests can't hurt13:12
vdrokjroll: I think for now, yes, they are not super-useful, as we're basically testing that ironic is returning what we expect in the virt driver. but, not mocking out ironic is a good thing :)13:14
jrollvdrok: yeah, I think we'll expand, and later if ironic pushes data directly to placement they'll be very useful13:15
jrollvdrok: I'm fine with landing them13:15
vdrokok cool :) I'll polish it a bit more, remove some unnecessary stuff today and they'll be ready for review13:16
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cdentvdrok: if you could add me to the review when it is ready, I'd appreciate it13:17
vdrokcdent: sure, will do :)13:17
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jrollvdrok: awesome, thanks!13:19
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raghavhi all i am getting below error..while stacking13:22
raghavNO hosts found to map to cell13:22
raghavocata release13:22
raghavi have not enabled n-cell servcie then also i am getting this error13:23
raghavcould anyone please help me13:23
sdagueraghav: this is a completely fresh install?13:24
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johnthetubaguyraghav: the install guide is in the process of being updated for ocata, so if you followed that there are some missing steps right now13:26
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johnthetubaguysfinucan: sorry, I mean update the link13:27
raghavi have done clean.sh on my previous devstack installation and then did stack13:27
johnthetubaguyfor context I was thinking about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438328/13:27
johnthetubaguyoh13:27
raghavjohn: i am using devstack13:27
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sdagueraghav: honestly, given some of the other issues, please start with a completely fresh OS install13:28
sdagueonce changes have been made to config, clean.sh may not delete some of those things13:28
sfinucanjohnthetubaguy: OK, think I've done that now13:28
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johnthetubaguyhmm gerrit appears to hate me13:30
raghavsdague: can there be any other soln than re installation13:30
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sdagueraghav: given the set of issues you were showing yesterday, I think that debugging the current state of your machine isn't going to be a productive use of anyone's time, including yours13:32
sdagueI would start fresh13:32
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raghavsdague: ok thank you13:33
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raghavsdague: Hi in fresh installation aslo i got same error13:43
sdagueraghav: please pastebin all the logs and your local.conf, we know that it's working in the general case, it's tested all the time13:44
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raghavsdague: http://paste.openstack.org/show/602688/ please find local.conf13:49
tdurakovHi folks, caught cold, so couldn't run live migration meeting this week, sorry for inconvenience13:49
cdenttdurakov: we share an internet virus13:50
tdurakovGet well cdent13:50
cdentyou too13:51
sdagueraghav: why did you set *_BRANCH ?13:52
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mriedemlyarwood: this is kind of a monster backport but is something we need to get released sooner than later https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445236/13:52
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.reboot.error notification  https://review.openstack.org/41179113:53
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openstackgerritDanfly proposed openstack/nova master: Completely remove mox from unit/network/test_linux_net.py  https://review.openstack.org/44550413:55
lyarwoodmriedem: ack, I'll queue that up now, can you unblock https://review.openstack.org/#/c/431540/ when you have time, should be good to go now.13:56
mriedemlyarwood: yeah will look now13:57
lyarwoodthanks13:57
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mriedemlyarwood: +214:00
mriedemtonyb: mtreinish: can one of you hit this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/431540/14:01
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mtreinishmriedem: looking14:01
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Get instance availability_zone without hitting the api db  https://review.openstack.org/43975414:02
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make os-availability-zones know about cells  https://review.openstack.org/44216314:02
mriedembauzas: cdent: jaypipes: so do we want to start looking at creating a placement client? i know mlavalle had already started an osc plugin.14:02
cdentmriedem: just had a chat earlier in the day about that with vdrok14:02
dansmithI thought the point of the simple design was to make it so we don't need a client14:02
mriedemhttps://github.com/miguellavalle/python-placementclient/tree/adding-grp-support14:03
cdentand we said pretty much what dansmith just said14:03
mtreinishmriedem: +A14:03
mriedemthe original spec called out osc CLIs for things like associating resource providers via aggregates,14:03
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mriedemor simply listing resource providers as a sanity check14:03
mriedemwe expect everyone to just be using curl?14:04
mriedembra14:04
mriedem*brb14:04
cdentyes, the spec did say that, but I'm not sure we've actually hit those use cases yet, so might be just as easy to wait?14:04
* cdent doesn't no14:04
cdentsick bra, have a great time14:04
bauzasmriedem: yeah, I began to work on providing a separate module for that, but I'd prefer to have a separate client14:05
dansmithmriedem: a client for use in cron may make sense, but not a separate client for server code, IMHO14:06
dansmithmriedem: like a simple thing you can run from the cli to report a particular thing, that's not overly complex, but I would expect cinder to just use requests14:06
bauzasdansmith: well, a python client could be cool for OSC14:06
bauzasand for other projects14:06
johnthetubaguydansmith: melwitt: macsz: seeing bug patterns emerge around this kind of thing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/167262414:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1672624 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Ceph volumes attached to local deleted instance could not be correctly handled" [Undecided,New]14:07
dansmithbauzas: for human usage, yes, which I think exists today14:07
openstackgerritDanfly proposed openstack/nova master: Completely remove mox from unit/network/test_linux_net.py  https://review.openstack.org/44550414:07
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sdaguebauzas: so, honestly, I really think that clients are an anti-pattern14:08
bauzassdague: not sure I understand your concerns14:09
bauzasIMHO, we could provide a python placementclient package so OSC could use it for providing CLI14:09
sdaguehere is the issue with that14:10
sdagueand why I think it's an anti pattern14:10
bauzasexactly like the same difference between nova CLI and novaclient python module14:10
sdagueif you say that the client code is the REST api, you have documentation and examples for that, which are part of our normal process14:10
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sdagueif you say that the client is this other library, then you need to duplicate the entire set of documentation specific to the class structure for that. And no longer is your rest api your documentation.14:11
sdaguewhich needs to include all the examples, etc14:11
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bauzaswell, other projects do that, nope ?14:12
bauzaswe have REST API documentation, but we also have CLI and python bindings docs14:12
sdaguethey don't, which is why OSC has been gutting a bunch of that14:12
bauzasand when I was an operator, it was not a problem for me14:12
bauzasfor example, when I was an operator by Diablo, I looked at the novaclient python bindings docs14:13
bauzaswell, Essex sorry by that time14:13
bauzasand I wrote my scripts using those14:13
bauzasfor bash things I used CLI docs14:13
bauzasand when I wanted to play with the REST API, well, then... actually I never did this :)14:14
cdentsdague: I have never agreed with you more than I agree with this conclusion " And no longer is your rest api your documentation."14:14
bauzasbecause getting a token is something a bit confusing honestly14:14
bauzasnow, I understand how to get a token14:14
sdaguebauzas: it is, and that's why we hide that behind keystoneauth114:14
bauzasbut as an user, I'd prefer to just use a python client for that14:15
sdaguebut after that point, GET some json is pretty straight forward14:15
bauzasI agree14:15
bauzasif the REST API is well documented :)14:15
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bauzaswhich was not the case previously14:15
sdaguebauzas: right, and it would be much better to make that true14:15
sdaguethen write tons of other equally poor bits of documentation14:16
bauzassdague: maybe because I'm more a developer than an operator, I looked at how novaclient was working14:16
sdagueI am excited that you found it good enough for your use case14:16
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bauzassdague: but it was easier for me to look at the client code to understand the logic than trying to see how the REST API was working14:16
sdaguebut the experience I've hit with other people is basically why they all use shade now instead of any of the clients14:17
sdaguebauzas: the REST api docs were pretty terrible at that time14:17
bauzasthat said, it's now 4 years later, and we're in a far better situation for the REST API thanks to you and other API people :)14:17
bauzasyeah zactly14:17
sdaguebauzas: so, please don't use the lessons from 5 years ago about the right patterns for today14:17
bauzasfair enough14:17
bauzasbut the scheduler.report client module is doing more than just GET and POST, right?14:18
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bauzasshould we leave other service projects writing their own methods like we do in that current scheduler module ?14:19
macszjohnthetubaguy: thanks, will take a look as soon as I get a break from the training14:19
sdaguebauzas: the things that seem to be common is pretty much just the safe_connect wrapper there, what bits of complex logic would you expect would be needed in neutron?14:21
dansmithno, I think a lot of what is there is pretty nova-specific14:22
sdaguebauzas: I'd much rather start under the assumption that a library is not needed, walk through doing an implementation in another service, figure out if there are common things that would be handy to share (like the safe connect bit) and maybe put that into a utility mixin or back in keystoneauth14:22
dansmiththere may be a few re-usable things, like "ensure_resource_provider()" but that's really just a get-and-post-on-40414:22
dansmithwhich is not worth a separate client14:22
bauzassdague: this for example https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/client/report.py#L48414:22
bauzasneutron would provide their inventories, right?14:23
bauzasor cinder14:23
cdent(safe connect in keystoneauth makes good sense)14:24
sdaguebauzas: maybe, how about implement that first in one of those services and see14:24
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openstackgerritDanil Akhmetov proposed openstack/nova master: Use proper user and tenant in the owner section of libvirt.xml.  https://review.openstack.org/39967914:24
bauzassdague: yeah we could possibly wait for other service projects calling the placement API and see if we need a common client package, maybe14:25
dansmithbauzas: it's long, but really not much meat in there.. retry on 40914:25
cdentbauzas: neutron built in their own custom client for inventories: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358658/14:25
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bauzascdent: but they don't have our story yet14:26
bauzassorry14:26
bauzass/story/background14:26
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cdentmeaning what?14:26
bauzasso I'm afraid of them missing some corner case14:26
bauzasthat we could have fixed in the scheduler.report module14:26
bauzaslike https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/client/report.py#L59614:26
bauzasanyway, I'm not *that* concerned14:27
bauzasif there is no traction around a specific common client, fine by me14:27
sdaguebauzas: honestly, I feel like this is part of the anti pattern. Deciding that projects that consume other project apis don't need to know how to use those APIs, and we'll hide everything in a library. If the API is hard to use correctly, that's data, and we should take it back to the API, not put a bunch of work around code around it14:28
bauzaslet's wait other projects using the placement API, and we'll see if we need a common one14:28
sdagueI mean, we were seriously talking 2 cycles ago about the neutron team building a nova consumption interface on top of their neutron client, because it was too hard to use.14:28
bauzassdague: that's a reasonable concern14:28
sdaguemaybe it was more than 2 cycles ago14:29
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bauzas:)14:29
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bauzasyeah, that's a trade-off, I agree14:29
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bauzasif we can keep things simple, I'm all good14:30
bauzasagain, I'm seeing myself in a minority on that, so fair enough14:30
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mriedemi'm back, caught up14:30
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jaypipesmriedem: I'm strongly opposed to a separate client for placement. Having an openstackclient module for resource providers and inventories/allocations/aggregate associations is A-OK, but not a separate python client.14:30
mriedemso no to the client for APIs, and no to CLI for osc?14:30
bauzasit's a valid concern, and if people don't really want to have that common client, plus the concerns you mention, then I'm okay14:30
mriedemi'm good with not having a python API client14:31
bauzasjaypipes: OSC being only a CLI wrapper ?14:31
mriedemi was wondering more about CLI14:31
mriedemosc is a cli wrapper, not an api library14:31
mriedemit uses the other client API libraries and the sdk14:31
bauzasyeah, just wanted to reassure that14:31
bauzasthat we won't push smart code in OSC14:32
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bauzasagain, if people feel confident with that, let's stick with dansmith's plan given in the ML14:32
bauzasI don't want to divert too much on that14:32
bauzasand we could raise a priority on writing a python client module if we need to14:33
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jaypipesmriedem: OSC doesn't *have* to import a placementclient lib, though. for example, we could just have make_client() return something similar to the keystone session object in the scheduler report client.14:35
jaypipesmriedem: in other words, here's the compute example make_client() https://github.com/openstack/python-openstackclient/blob/master/openstackclient/compute/client.py#L3814:35
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jaypipesmriedem: we could just as easily change that code to just make a "client" for placement be the requests session and keystoneauth session14:35
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bauzasjaypipes: given how we heavily mention OSC in our docs, and given we would need that for shared storage stories, is there someone actively working on that?14:38
bauzasfor Pike, I mean14:38
jrolljaypipes: your ironic get_inventory() thing lgtm, nice work14:38
jaypipesbauzas: pretty sure we can find folks, yes.14:39
bauzascool :)14:40
mriedemjaypipes: i know, i was actually thinking we'd have the osc plugin in nova,14:40
openstackgerritAlex Szarka proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance-live_migration_abort notification  https://review.openstack.org/42045314:40
mriedemand that gets split out with the server api stuff when it all happens14:40
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mriedemi thought projects were supposed to host osc plugins now, rather than try and put them all in osc itself and make that core team own them,14:40
mriedemthat's what i remember from a session in austin anyway14:41
jaypipesmriedem: that's fine by me.14:41
mriedemsdague: dansmith: are you against an osc plugin living in nova purely for CLI?14:41
mriedemor meh?14:41
dansmithagainst existence, or against living in nova?14:41
jaypipesmriedem: probably a question for dtroyer too?14:42
mriedemthe former14:42
dansmithno14:42
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openstackgerritBéla Vancsics proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.trigger_crash_dump notification  https://review.openstack.org/39622514:42
dansmiththere is that thing already yes?14:42
mriedemdansmith: i don't see one14:42
mriedemmlavalle's is a full blown client, like novaclient14:42
dansmithoh, I thought it was a plugin14:43
mriedemhttps://github.com/miguellavalle/python-placementclient/tree/adding-grp-support14:43
sdaguemriedem: in the nova tree?14:44
mriedemsdague: yes, where placement currently lives14:44
sdagueI'm definitely -1 on in the nova tree, those things shouldn't be coupled that way14:44
mriedemso openstack/placement-osc-plugin?14:44
sdaguemriedem: sure14:44
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sdagueit can be under nova control, but you don't want to pip install all of nova14:45
sdagueto get 200 lines of osc plugin14:45
mriedemoh right i didn't think about that14:45
bauzasgood point14:45
sean-k-mooneymriedem: would it not make sense to have the placement osc plugin live in the placement repo when that is created14:45
mriedemsean-k-mooney: but that's not pike,14:45
mriedemor maybe even queens14:45
sdaguesean-k-mooney: no, it would not14:45
sdagueosc plugins should not be in the trees of larger projects14:45
bauzasyeah14:45
jrollmriedem: how we do osc stuff is the osc plugin goes in the python-ironicclient tree14:45
sdaguebecause osc plugins should be super minimal14:46
jrollseems to work well, and you'll need the ironicclient dep anyway14:46
mriedemjroll: we wouldn't have a dep on a placementclient though14:46
sean-k-mooneysdague: oh ok. i guess you can use depends-on to track patches to both but i just assumend it would be eaisier to keep them in sync if the clients and apis were in the same repo14:46
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openstackgerritAlex Szarka proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance-exists notification  https://review.openstack.org/40366014:46
sdaguesean-k-mooney: the whole point of osc is to optimize for consumption14:47
sean-k-mooneysdague: ah so you want them to be seperate to minimies the code footprint14:47
jrollmriedem: ah, yeah I guess just it's own repo makes sense to me then14:47
sdagueand, honestly, I'm not really sure why we would do things that way vs. just put it into osc directly14:47
mriedemsdague: i'm talking with dtroyer in -dev14:47
mriedemif you want to ask about it living in osc directly14:48
mriedembecause i thought they didn't want more stuff living in osc directly,14:48
openstackgerritAlex Szarka proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.resize.error notifications  https://review.openstack.org/41788214:48
mriedemjust like tempest wants to move things to plugins14:48
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dansmithI guess there's no support for generating multiple packages from one source, like deb and rpm can do?14:51
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jrolldansmith: pbr doesn't do that, no14:51
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mriedemmelwitt: did you happen to get a functional test started for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/444106/ ? if not, i could try starting something there14:53
dansmithjroll: yeah, that's a bummer14:54
jrollindeed14:54
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mriedemcdent: bauzas: dansmith: sdague: jaypipes: ok here is a simple blueprint to start tracking the osc plugin stuff https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/placement-osc-plugin15:10
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mriedemwith enough detail to hopefully get someone started, maybe someone from osic - they are an infinite resource right?15:10
cdent15:11
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johnthetubaguymriedem: I wish we had that ;)15:18
johnthetubaguyraj_singh: I guess everyone is busy right now right?15:19
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johnthetubaguymriedem: but +1 documenting it so someone can take that on15:20
sdaguedansmith / jroll it's not just a pbr limitation, there are other substantial issues there with the python packaging toolchain15:20
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raj_singhjohnthetubaguy: yea running out of bandwidth for this cycle15:21
jrollsdague: that's the understatement of the day :)15:22
jrollI know pbr has hard blockers for it, that's all I wanted to point out15:22
mriedemKevin_Zheng: i know it's late for you, just fyi that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429569/ could use some small improvements and then i'm +215:22
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make conductor ask scheduler to limit migrates to same cell  https://review.openstack.org/43802515:25
dansmithbauzas: can you look at this ^ ?15:25
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dansmithbauzas: I think that's what you're going for.. I still need to do some tests and fix the commit message and stuff, but I think that will efficiently make the caching scheduler behave the same as the filter scheduler15:26
bauzasdansmith: sure, will do15:26
dansmithi.e. filter based on cell per request, from the global collected list15:26
bauzasdansmith: I need to go to the garage soon, but I'll look at it quickly15:26
dansmithjust a brief look to see if it's what you meant would be good15:27
dansmiththen I'll release you to the garage15:27
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bauzasdansmith: so https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438025/23/nova/scheduler/caching_scheduler.py15:28
bauzasdansmith: lgtm, but I was also thinking about _get_by_hosts() returning a dict instead of a list15:29
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bauzasoops _get_up_hosts15:29
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bauzasdansmith: so we could just lookup by the cell name15:29
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hamzyhey mriedem I think that I am running into https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1670627 is there a way to clean up the instances from the CLI? I guess that I need to do some DB cleanup?15:30
openstackLaunchpad bug 1670627 in OpenStack Compute (nova) ocata "quota is always in-use after delete the ERROR instances " [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem)15:30
dansmithbauzas: okay, I need to see how much change that is to the other stuff, but probably okay15:30
bauzasdansmith: it's just a nit tho15:31
bauzasdansmith: but I'd prefer both of them rather than a filter15:31
mriedemhamzy: the instances are deleted right?15:31
mriedemhamzy: the problem is the quota usage isn't decremented15:32
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hamzymriedem, yes "nova list --all-tenants" shows nothing15:32
hamzyMy compute overview page shows "RAM Used 48GB of 50GB" and 6 used instances...15:32
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dansmithbauzas: yeah, I don't know why I didn't think to do this when johnthetubaguy and I were talking about it.. probably just misunderstanding the cachingscheduler at the time15:32
mriedemhamzy: yeah, and the "nova_cell0.usages" table should have that information in it, can you confirm15:33
mriedem?15:33
mriedemoh wait, sorry,15:33
mriedemnot nova_cell0,15:33
mriedemjust nova.usages15:33
bauzasdansmith: the problem with a filter is that operators would need to modify their config for an upgrade15:33
hamzymriedem, I have an AIO installation with a bunch of containers... do I need to attach to one of them>15:33
bauzasdansmith: or they wouldn't check the cells15:33
bauzasif they forget to modify their conf opt15:34
dansmithbauzas: they wouldn't until they add another cell15:34
mriedemhamzy: let me check something, we might have a CLI to run15:34
dansmithbauzas: but I know, this is better, I'm not arguing15:34
bauzasdansmith: sure, but they could also opt-out verifying cells, which I also dislike :)15:34
bauzasanyway15:34
mriedemcdent: replied to the ML thread on the placement client topic for completeness15:34
bauzasmriedem: thanks for that, appreciatedf15:34
mriedemand so i don't forget what we agreed on in 4 months time15:34
cdentmriedem: yeah, saw that, thanks15:34
dansmithbauzas: I'm not arguing for a filter15:34
bauzasyeah no worries :)15:35
mriedemhamzy: https://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/man/nova-manage.html#nova-project15:35
* bauzas really needs to go find his car :)15:35
mriedemhamzy: i'm wondering if "nova-manage project quota_usage_refresh <project_id> [--user <user_id>] [--key <key>]" will help15:35
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mriedemhamzy: can you try that for the project in question15:35
hamzyyeah let me figure out the project_id15:36
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hamzymriedem, is there an openstack CLI equivalent?15:38
mriedemhamzy: nope15:38
mriedemit's direct to the nova db15:38
mriedemand something in osc cli would require a rest api for this in the compute endpoint, which we don't have15:38
hamzymriedem, trying to figure out how to install it in my AIO environment15:41
mriedemhamzy: nova-manage is available on the controller15:41
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mriedemit's a CLI15:41
mriedemso "which nova-manage"15:41
mriedemAIO == all in one?15:42
hamzyyes15:42
hamzyinstalled with openstack-ansible15:42
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hamzymriedem, http://paste.openstack.org/show/602707/ that CLI is not in the utility-container15:44
mriedemhamzy: i've never used openstack-ansible, so not sure how things are deployed,15:44
mriedemhamzy: how about aio1_nova_conductor_container-41603c3d ?15:45
johnthetubaguynot sure which container they run the nova-manage stuff in, worth asking andymccr in #openstack-ansible15:45
hamzynova command is there but not nova-manage15:45
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hamzysame with aio1_nova_console_container-fb9219e4... sigh15:46
andymccrhamzy: it will be in the nova containers, but inside the venv for nova15:46
hamzyah15:46
hamzy\o/15:47
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mriedemnow to see if that command fixes the usage15:48
raj_singhjohnthetubaguy: regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438467/, I am wondering if new "force_complete" option could have choices of "abort, pause, post-copy", then we can deprecate live_migration_permit_post_copy?15:51
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johnthetubaguyraj_singh: but what about the force complete API that still uses that config?15:51
hamzymriedem, I don't think it did, but the overview page no longer shows the pie charts anymore15:51
* raj_singh thinking15:52
johnthetubaguyraj_singh: I think folks want to opt into post copy, most want it turned off, so a single config to do that makes sense I think15:52
raj_singhjohnthetubaguy: ok, let me rework the spec15:53
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mriedemhamzy: ok, we can check via nova cli, sec15:53
hamzymriedem, FYI I ran quota_usage_refresh on all four projects that I had15:54
mriedemhamzy: https://docs.openstack.org/cli-reference/nova.html#nova-quota-show15:54
johnthetubaguyraj_singh: we should add that context in the spec15:54
mriedemnova quota-show --tenant <tenant id>15:54
mriedemplus maybe --detail15:54
mriedemnova quota-show --tenant <tenant id> --detail15:55
mriedemsee if the instances are back to 10 for limit and 0 for usage15:55
raj_singhjohnthetubaguy: yes, will update it soon.15:55
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hamzymriedem, http://paste.openstack.org/show/602711/15:57
johnthetubaguyraj_singh: got a few nits on the follow on spec too15:58
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mriedem| instances                   | {u'limit': 10, u'reserved': 0, u'in_use': 6}        |15:58
mriedemyeah usage is still wrong15:58
raj_singhjohnthetubaguy: thanks for the review15:58
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mriedemhamzy: is the [database]/connection option in the nova.conf that the aio1-nova-conductor-container-41603c3d container is using pointing at the 'nova' database?16:00
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openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: return a CPU overhead if isolate emulator threads requested  https://review.openstack.org/38536416:01
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova master: numa: fit instance NUMA node with cpus reserved onto host NUMA node  https://review.openstack.org/40087516:01
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova master: virt: update overhead to take into account vCPUs  https://review.openstack.org/38502416:01
hamzymriedem, there is a line "connection = mysql+pymysql://nova:random_password@172.29.236.100/nova?charset=utf8"16:01
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: make emulator threads to run on the reserved pCPU  https://review.openstack.org/40087816:01
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova master: numa: take into account cpus reserved  https://review.openstack.org/40087616:01
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova master: numa: update numa usage incording the cpu reserved  https://review.openstack.org/40087716:01
mriedemhamzy: yeah that's the nova db16:02
mriedem /nova is the nova db16:02
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mriedemso i'm thinking the refresh CLI doesn't fix things because the refresh operation thinks that usage is correct, because of the bug, we never decremented usage16:04
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hamzyso no --force option? :)16:04
mriedemnova quota-update will just update the limits, not the usages,16:05
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mriedemi'm not sure if "nova quota-delete" will do what you want, i suspect that will reset quota limits to the default, but not touch usages,16:06
mriedemi can look quick16:06
hamzythanks16:06
mriedemactually it looks like it will,16:07
mriedemit should delete the quota limit, usage and any pending reservations16:07
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mriedemit sucks, but if you can reset the quota for that project, then that's what you want "nova quota-delete --tenant <tenant id>"16:08
hamzymriedem, and then how do you recreate the quota? I don't see a quota-create16:08
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mriedemthere are global defaults for quota in nova.conf16:08
mriedemnow might be a good time for me to cleanup https://review.openstack.org/#/c/417563/16:09
mriedembut ^ is an attempt and documenting some of how quotas work in nova16:09
openstackgerritTadas Ustinavičius proposed openstack/nova master: Fixing flake8 errors  https://review.openstack.org/44555816:11
melwittmriedem: no, didn't do anything with a functional test yet. so feel free :)16:12
mriedemmelwitt: i think i'm going to just get ocata 13.0.1 out the door for this quotas issue, and add a release note with a known issue for the retry bug,16:12
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mriedemand then once that's fixed (with a functional recreate test) we can do a 13.0.2 shortly after16:13
mriedemwhich reminds me to beg for stable reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata16:13
hamzymriedem, http://paste.openstack.org/show/602712/ and thanks... "openstack server create" was able to boot an instance16:13
melwittokay16:13
mriedemonce those are in we can do a 13.0.1 release16:13
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mriedemhamzy: nice, cool.16:13
mriedemhamzy: i'll make a note of the workaround instructions in the release note for ocata 13.0.116:13
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mriedem*er 15.0.116:14
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hamzyyeah that would be great16:14
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mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata16:16
mriedemoops16:16
mriedemsdague: bauzas: claudiub: ^ can you help out here?16:16
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openstackgerritGábor Antal proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Show persisted scheduler hints in server details  https://review.openstack.org/44058016:19
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melwittKevin_Zheng: I was just starting to look at this bug you reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1672624 do you know if it's a regression?16:24
openstackLaunchpad bug 1672624 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Ceph volumes attached to local deleted instance could not be correctly handled" [Undecided,New]16:24
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sdaguemriedem: after I get off a call16:26
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jaypipesrpodolyaka: we'd welcome you help on the osc plugin for placement. :)16:45
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openstackgerritMatthew Booth proposed openstack/nova master: Add InstanceMappingList.get_by_instance_uuids  https://review.openstack.org/44513916:45
openstackgerritMatthew Booth proposed openstack/nova master: Make server_external_events use an optimal number of db queries  https://review.openstack.org/44514216:45
openstackgerritMatthew Booth proposed openstack/nova master: Add RequestContext.for_cell()  https://review.openstack.org/44514016:45
openstackgerritMatthew Booth proposed openstack/nova master: Add InstanceList.get_by_instance_mapping_list()  https://review.openstack.org/44514116:45
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rpodolyakajaypipes: sure, np! :)16:49
mriedemrpodolyaka: thanks, you're the owner on the bp now16:50
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Refactor InstancePayload creation  https://review.openstack.org/41848816:52
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Remove **kwargs passing in payload __init__  https://review.openstack.org/41848916:52
rpodolyakamriedem: thanks!16:52
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mriedemlyarwood: i just posted a release note to ocata for 15.0.1 also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445575/16:54
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Transform aggregate.add_host notification  https://review.openstack.org/39621016:57
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Transform aggregate.remove_host notification  https://review.openstack.org/39621116:57
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openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add locked-by-service spec  https://review.openstack.org/43813416:58
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johnthetubaguysiva_krishnan: thinking about this spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347161 are we not now back to basically what the original spec said now?17:03
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mdboothjohnthetubaguy: What's a service locked instance?17:04
* mdbooth thinks service == nova compute on host X17:04
johnthetubaguymdbooth: its writing up the old story we had around trove "locking" and instance from a user deleting it17:04
siva_krishnanjohnthetubaguy: yeah only with one change. instead of generating unrescue.xml from database we are copying it to destination from source17:05
johnthetubaguysiva_krishnan: ah, OK, could we add a not in the git commit saying thats the only change?17:05
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johnthetubaguys/not/note/17:05
openstackgerritSujitha proposed openstack/nova master: Add description to policies in aggregates.py  https://review.openstack.org/44523017:06
johnthetubaguymdbooth: yeah, I hadn't noticed that overloaded term, damm17:06
mdboothWhat's a service, then?17:06
johnthetubaguymdbooth: in that context, is the service token in the context17:06
johnthetubaguymdbooth: so trove has a service token, it should be in the spec, although something tells me its probably not clear in there17:07
siva_krishnanjohnthetubaguy: sure. will update the commit message17:07
mdboothI've read the description and use cases sections a couple of times and hadn't managed to infer it from context.17:08
mdboothThat could just be me, though.17:08
openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add locked-by-service spec  https://review.openstack.org/43813417:09
johnthetubaguymdbooth: not sure, the folks reading that so far have a lot of shared context around the problem17:10
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openstackgerritGábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Add json style checking for sample notifications  https://review.openstack.org/44367717:12
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johnthetubaguysiva_krishnan: thanks17:18
mdboothjohnthetubaguy: Incidentally, you mentioned (last week, I think) you'd have another look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/383859/17:19
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johnthetubaguymdbooth: damm, yes, still not got out of the specs really17:20
mdboothI'd really like to get that landed, or at least know what needs doing to it.17:20
mdboothIt's a bit in limbo right now.17:21
openstackgerritSivasathurappan Radhakrishnan proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Live Migration of Rescued Instances  https://review.openstack.org/34716117:21
jaypipesmriedem, dansmith: your reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441544/ would be great. thanks in advance!17:22
johnthetubaguysiva_krishnan: acutally that spec is really different from the previously approved one: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/newton/approved/live-migrate-rescued-instances.html17:22
mriedemjaypipes: ack17:22
johnthetubaguymdbooth: understood, I hope to get there really soon17:22
sdaguemriedem: you are going to have to explain the flavor param on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445236/1to me17:22
jaypipesdansmith: what's your most pressing patch for me to review?17:22
sdaguebecause I'm not seeing any logic that makes that a different value in the new code than the old code17:23
dansmithsdague: it's because of lazy loading17:23
dansmithsdague: needing to go to the right cell when that happens17:23
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dansmithjaypipes: I'm currently moving code around so.. nothing right now :(17:24
mriedemsdague: must did17:24
mriedem*just did17:24
mdboothjohnthetubaguy: Thanks!17:24
dansmithjaypipes: you can look at this if you want: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/42790317:24
mriedemsdague: it's all about cell context17:24
jaypipesdansmith: cool, will do.17:24
dansmithbut it's not super pressing17:24
dansmithjaypipes: not sure I have enough context in those commit messages for you to know why that's important actually.. unless you were paying attention at the PTG :)17:25
siva_krishnanjohnthetubaguy: we have almost changed all the textual content of previously approved spec but functionality wise this was the only change we agreed on.17:25
mriedemdansmith: nor the bp description :)17:25
dansmithI know17:26
jaypipesdansmith: I'll ask if I don't understand :)17:26
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mriedemi'll add notes to the bp17:26
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mriedemdansmith: there https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/discover-hosts-faster17:29
dansmithmriedem: <317:30
dansmithjaypipes: ^17:30
sdaguemriedem / dansmith ok, so you end up having to change context to look up the flavor, because it's only in the the cell db ?17:30
mriedemsdague: the instance is in the cell0 db17:30
sdaguebut then you are making all the quota changes at the api db?17:30
mriedemthe context, by default, looks in the nova db17:30
jaypipesbueno.17:30
mriedemno, the quota changes are in the nova db17:31
mriedemquotas aren't in the api db yet, which is why we have this bug17:31
dansmithwell,17:31
dansmithnot really17:31
dansmithbut if he buys that, then run with it17:31
dansmithoops, was that public?17:31
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mriedemha17:31
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mriedemyou typed too fast17:31
dansmithsdague: api hedged and put the quota reservation in the non-cell0 cell the instance was destined for,17:32
dansmithbut then we put it in cell0 when we couldn't schedule it17:32
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sdagueso, I guess I'm not sure I understand why the internals interface doesn't make instance.flavor just go lazy load from the right place17:32
dansmithsdague: once our quotas are "fixed for cells" then this won't be a problem17:32
sdagueor is that just because this was a late breaking bug, and this was the smallest backportable thing?17:32
dansmithsdague: because the instance is now in cell0,17:33
dansmithsdague: but the reservations were created in cellN in a previous request17:33
mriedem"why the internals interface doesn't make instance.flavor just go lazy load from the right place" the instance object would have to lookup it's own instance mapping to find the cell it's in, and then do a lookup using that context i believe,17:34
dansmithno, it's worse17:34
mriedemwhich could probably work, but wasn't something i thought of doing, at least in the mainline path17:34
dansmithbecause the reservations are in the cell it's not in, right?17:34
mriedemcorrect,17:35
sdagueI don't know, I just see you did a lookup call to figure out what cell the instance is in right above it17:35
mriedembut i think sdague is asking why i have to be explicit about looking up the instance.flavor in the proper cell, rather than instance.flavor lazy-load doing that for us implicitly17:35
sdagueso from a naive pov, it seems like that could be stashed in instance itself17:35
mriedemwe could handle InstanceNotFound in the obj_load_attr in the Instance object and if the context isn't targeted for a cell (no db_connection attr) we could do an instance mapping lookup on ourselves17:36
dansmithsdague: because that's not how it works right now17:36
dansmith:)17:36
mriedembut that's not going to happen in the backport17:36
mriedemdansmith: do you think doing a notfound / lookup / re-query in the instance.obj_load_attr is worth looking into so we can avoid explicit context switching like this?17:37
dansmithno17:37
dansmiththe instance object should never know about instancemapping17:37
mriedemtoo magical and hard to debug if it's wrong?17:37
mriedemok17:37
dansmiththey're in different databases, and that thing will fail if we hit that notfound if we're on a compute for example17:37
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mriedemyeah17:38
sdagueok, well this feels kind of fragile, but if that's what we got, so be it17:39
mriedemi don't disagree that this is gorpy, the instance delete path has always been bad and this isn't helping17:40
dansmiththe instance delete path is like some of the worst code we have17:40
dansmithright behind BDMs probably :)17:40
mriedemwhat about quotas?17:40
mriedemthis is quotas + delete17:40
mriedemworst ever17:40
melwittlocal delete17:40
openstackgerritJuan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack/nova master: Make versioned notifications topics configurable  https://review.openstack.org/44494717:40
mriedemi do think we have some stuff we can cleanup in the delete flow that was meant for the transition to cells v217:40
mriedemi started trying that cleanup here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443405/17:41
mriedembut apparently part of it is still needed17:41
melwittthat reminds me, I still have a patch up for one of the local delete problems https://review.openstack.org/34061417:41
mriedemmelwitt: the 10th revert of the 10th revert?17:41
melwittyeah17:42
mriedemdansmith: if you can hit the 2 remaining ocata patches https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata then i can prep the release17:43
mriedemi have a date with a 4th notary17:43
mriedemjaypipes: that ironic inventory patch is on my list for the afternoon once i get rejected by this other notary17:44
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johnthetubaguybauzas: I think there are quite a few unresolved comments from previous patch sets on this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44058017:45
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johnthetubaguybauzas: am I missing context on another discussion that resolved them?17:45
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jaypipesmriedem: cool, thx17:53
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melwittdansmith: on the host_manager thing, I don't think you need to change anything. I'm just missing how the double iterating would have to happen if it were changed17:56
dansmithI just explained17:56
melwittfrom the context in that file, I just wasn't seeing it17:56
dansmithand I've already changed it17:56
dansmiththere's not a double iteration if I put the conditional in the caller, I just thought the point was to avoid the conditional,17:57
dansmithand if not, then I don't get the point of moving17:57
dansmithbut it's done anyway17:57
melwitthm, okay. I thought the point was to avoid the skip all but one in the specific cell case. but I'm probably missing something else17:58
johnthetubaguysfinucan: did you have some pbr fix for this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40736417:59
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melwittmriedem: it looks like https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1672624 is another regression. I'm working on a local repro18:00
openstackLaunchpad bug 1672624 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Ceph volumes attached to local deleted instance could not be correctly handled" [Undecided,New]18:00
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dansmithmelwitt: should we halt this and put it in the issues like the other? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445575/18:03
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melwittdansmith: like the other "fix coming soon" one? argh, maybe. I'm not 100% of when this regressed and I haven't repro-d it yet. from the code, it doesn't look like it should be happening18:05
dansmithyeah, that18:05
melwittI guess I hesitate about mentioning it in there when I haven't repro'd it yet18:06
melwittI just tried it on an older devstack ceph I have and the local delete worked fine. working on a try with master18:07
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johnthetubaguycdent: jaypipes: I guess we don't have an api-ref site for placement yet?18:20
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jaypipesjohnthetubaguy: not yet, no. one is needed for sure.18:20
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johnthetubaguymriedem: would be nice to get this policy spec moving, folks seem generally happy with the approach now: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433010/18:24
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dansmithjaypipes: if I make that server_default=0 thing can I assume that just reading existing records will give me zero?18:24
dansmithjaypipes: and, does that require writing the table again, or is it smart?18:24
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jaypipesdansmith: adding server_default="0" will allow you to make the field non-nullable from the start.18:25
dansmithjaypipes: I assume that means "yes" to the first part18:25
jaypipesdansmith: yes18:26
jaypipes:)18:26
jaypipesdansmith: and no on the second (no rewriting table)18:26
dansmithokay18:26
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openstackgerritPushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Stop using Neutron admin token  https://review.openstack.org/43989018:27
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openstackgerritAnusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova master: Add keypairs field to InstancePayload  https://review.openstack.org/41973018:36
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openstackgerritMaxim Nestratov proposed openstack/nova-specs master: libvirt: reintroduce runtime image type detection  https://review.openstack.org/36354718:45
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dansmithjaypipes: so.. that doesn't seem to work.. when I'm reading the result of the sql create, I don't have a mapped field, and if I try to read it, sqla lazy-loads (and fails in this case)18:48
openstackgerritdane-fichter proposed openstack/nova master: Use cursive for signature verification  https://review.openstack.org/35123218:50
dansmithjaypipes: also, the oslo.db model sync checker does't seem to support sever_default18:50
dansmithjaypipes: http://pastebin.com/ckkJXUMi18:51
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jaypipesdansmith: guh. ok... lemme +2 that patch then.18:52
dansmithjaypipes: I'm kina disappointed, because server_default is what I want18:53
jaypipesya18:53
jaypipesdansmith: vote changed :)18:53
dansmiththat probably needs fixing in oslo.db18:54
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dansmithgibi: around by chance?19:04
openstackgerritsean mooney proposed openstack/nova master: remove flake8-import-order for test requirements  https://review.openstack.org/44562219:04
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Get instance availability_zone without hitting the api db  https://review.openstack.org/43975419:06
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make os-availability-zones know about cells  https://review.openstack.org/44216319:06
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make conductor ask scheduler to limit migrates to same cell  https://review.openstack.org/43802519:08
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cdentjohnthetubaguy: I've started but not made much progress: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409340/ (and one above it). I keep asking for volunteers from the reading audience of the placement update emails, but I think labor is oversubscribed19:09
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melwittdansmith: just looked at the update. what I was missing was that you needed the entire cell objects in _get_computes_for_cells, and not just the uuids19:13
dansmithokay19:13
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: good points about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/440580/5 I missed them19:13
melwittif you only needed the uuids, then it would have saved something but since you need the whole objects, it doesn't19:14
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openstackgerritSarafraj Singh proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add live-migration-force-after-timeout spec  https://review.openstack.org/43846719:19
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openstackgerritAnusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova master: Add description to policies in volumes.py  https://review.openstack.org/44563719:55
jrollmriedem: all the tooz traffic on the ML reminds me to bug you about this again, you had a question there, I answered it, what say you? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399022/19:55
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efriedmriedem Re: "...how the libvirt driver handles connection failures, it will auto-disable the compute service record in the database, and when it reconnects it will auto-enable the compute service record in the DB." - can you give me a pointer to some code to look at (and shamelessly mimic)?20:11
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openstackgerritJuan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack/nova master: Make versioned notifications topics configurable  https://review.openstack.org/44494720:18
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openstackgerritSarafraj Singh proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Spec to add per instance timeout for LM  https://review.openstack.org/44280920:30
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openstackgerritAnusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova master: POC: add descriptions to server tags  https://review.openstack.org/43484220:32
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mriedemdansmith: i failed to mention the van in the yard covered in snow20:50
dansmithmriedem: not that scary20:51
mriedemdansmith: the government center can't do the thing i need, but gene fuckin' turner gets it done20:51
dansmithdid it have wheels?20:51
dansmithhah20:51
mriedemgray-faced old ass pug met me at the door20:51
mriedemlots of cat food cans and cat hair but no cat in sight20:51
mriedemthe van had wheels20:51
mriedemand rust20:51
mriedemgene mothertruckin' turner20:51
dansmithnice20:51
openstackgerritAnusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova master: Add descripiton to policies in virtual_interfaces.py  https://review.openstack.org/44565220:52
mriedemit was like i saw into jay's future20:52
dansmithhaha20:52
mriedemsmelled like the mrs was in the kitchen cooking up that cat food20:52
dansmithjay's present is jay's future20:52
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mriedemedleafe: this is the callback method in the libvirt driver https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L45820:56
mriedemcalled from the event listener in nova/virt/libvirt/host.py20:56
mriedemthen the magic happens here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L339620:57
antwashHey nova team, I have a review for you that's related to the move of policy in code and add more descriptive policies for deployers. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439070/20:57
antwash^ feedback is always welcomed :)20:57
edleafemriedem: thx - will dig into that in a bit20:58
antwash^ johnthetubaguy -- I think this patch is cleaned up nice now lol20:58
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openstackgerritSujitha proposed openstack/nova master: Add description to policies in aggregates.py  https://review.openstack.org/44523021:02
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openstackgerritSujitha proposed openstack/nova master: Add description to policies in admin_password.py  https://review.openstack.org/44395721:05
openstackgerritSujitha proposed openstack/nova master: Add description to policies in admin_password.py  https://review.openstack.org/44395721:05
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mriedemjroll: i have spoken21:07
jrolljoy!21:07
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jrollmriedem: nice, thank you much21:08
mriedemi meh'ed all over that thing21:08
jrollsame21:11
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efriededleafe I suspect mriedem's pointers to _set_host_enabled were for me ;-)21:48
efriedIf not, I'm interested in talking to you...21:48
efriedmriedem Hypothetically, if I wanted to use that thing, could I move it out of libvirt and into someplace common?  (Rather than duping it)21:49
efried(Looks like vmware has a [simpler] version of same)21:49
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mriedemha yes they were21:52
mriedemsorry ed21:52
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mriedemefried: so vcenter has a way for active session on startup with the backing vcenter?21:53
mriedem*wait21:53
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efriedmriedem Well, they have a _set_host_enabled that does the same thing as libvirt's.  Haven't yet drilled down into how it's used.21:53
mriedemefried: i think we need something like that, otherwise the powervm driver init_host is blocking the nova-compute process from being 'started' for potentially what 10 minutes?21:53
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efriedmriedem Well, yeah, but...21:53
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mriedemit does seem sort of weird to start the nova-compute service but automatically disable it,21:54
mriedemas noted in the review, i'm not sure if the vcenter driver does anything similar21:54
mriedemor how other people feel about this21:54
efriedmriedem That service *should* start in under a minute, unless the admin misconfigured the nvl (compute host VM)21:54
efriedAnd I might have other ways of figuring out if that service is trying to start, or dead in the water.21:54
ZZelleHi everyone21:55
efried(ugly-ass native dbus calls equivalent to systemctl status polling)21:55
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ZZelleWho should i ask to review VMware related changes?21:55
ZZelle(in nova of course :))21:55
efriedmriedem So... if I could get that polling down to, say, two minutes, with a more reliable dead-in-the-water detection, could I get away with avoiding this subthread compute service disable/enable thing?21:56
mriedemZZelle: generally you should start with the vmware subteam, which i think right now is browne21:56
ZZellemriedem, only one person in VMware subteam?21:56
efriedmriedem ...which, as you say, seems a bit weird - and fairly involved to validate21:56
browneZZelle: sure, just put me on the patch to review21:57
ZZellebrowne, ok :)21:57
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edleafeefried: ah, ok. Thought it was related to another libvirt thing mriedem and I were discussing21:57
efriedZZelle https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-nova-priorities-tracking has a list of subteam members, FYI.21:57
mriedembrowne: since you're here, do you know if the vcenter driver has to wait at all to make a connection to the backing vcenter on startup?21:58
efriedZZelle Not sure if your patch would be appropriate for inclusion in that subteam review list.21:58
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: doc: add some documentation around quotas  https://review.openstack.org/41756321:58
brownemriedem: i believe there was a bug related to that. where startup of nova-compute was slow because it was connecting to vcenter on startup to retrieve all objects or some effect like that21:59
brownelet me do a search for it21:59
efriedmriedem https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/edf51119fa59ff8a3337abb9107a06fa33d3c68f/nova/virt/vmwareapi/host.py#L49-L11821:59
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efriedand browne ^^21:59
ZZelleefried, i should add my changes in "Ready for subteam review:" part?22:00
efriedmriedem browne Looks like on both init and get_host_stats, it checks and updates the service state.22:00
efriedZZelle Not sure if your change set needs to be special to be included there - that's a question for browne et al.22:00
mriedembrowne: i remember that too i think, but i might also be thinking of a cache issue with the _sync_instance_power_state periodic task in the compute22:00
ZZelleefried, ok22:00
browneefried:  yeah, and i believe someone created a patch to lazy init the state on startup, but wasn't approved22:01
efriedbrowne The above code looks like it kinda does that.22:01
efriedlazy and (kinda) polling22:01
browneyeah, so maybe it did get in22:01
efriedI like how it cheats by using get_host_stats to kick off the recheck.22:01
efriedI can git blame that sucker to determine the provenance...22:02
ZZelleefried, or it's a way to ensure VMware connection during nova-compute-vmware startup?22:02
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efriedZZelle Yeah, that's the idea.  But it doesn't block; it just marks the compute service as down whenever it detects the external connection is dead - and then re-tests it whenever get_host_stats runs.22:03
efriedmriedem and I are trying to figure out if a similar approach is apppropriate for the PowerVM driver.22:03
efried(or if that's more trouble than it's worth)22:04
ZZelleefried, iirc (at least in kilo) the nova-compute crashs if it fails to connect to VMware during service startup22:04
efriedZZelle And that's what the PowerVM external driver does (after trying to connect for 10 minutes)22:05
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efriedZZelle mriedem browne Looks like it happened here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290315/ as a result of https://launchpad.net/bugs/131692822:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1316928 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "VMware driver does not change compute node state to unavailable after disconnecting from vCenter" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to Giridhar Jayavelu (gjayavelu)22:06
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browneefried:  i was thinking of a different bug, but this one looks familiar too22:08
efriedSo mriedem, I'm thinking this is a pretty involved bit of stuff to try to drop into the initial patch.  Whaddaya say I knock that timeout down to like two minutes, and develop the state changer thingy in a subsequent change set?22:11
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mriedemefried: sure, and leave a TODO in the initial patch or whatever22:17
efriedmriedem Cool beans, thanks.22:17
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mriedembmace: let's chat here,22:17
mriedembmace: there is a weekly nova/cinder meeting http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Cinder,_Nova22:17
mriedembmace: for anyone interested in the multiattach stuff, that's a good meeting to be in for latest status and what needs attention or help22:17
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bmacemriedem: thanks much22:18
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mriedembmace: we're tracking review priorities per subteam in here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-nova-priorities-tracking22:18
mriedemcinder stuff is at L7522:19
mriedemi'm trying to keep as much of it contained to per-week increments as possible,22:19
mriedemso right now the priorities i believe are getting a cinderclient release done so nova can determine the min/max versions from the cinder api,22:19
mriedemgetting some data model changes into the nova block_device_mappings table (lyarwood's patches),22:20
mriedemand reviewing johnthetubaguy's spec and making sure it looks ok22:20
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mriedemso eyes on the spec would be good - the more people looking the better. i don't know how familiar your people are with the bdm attach/detach flows in nova, or the compute manager and block_device code22:20
mriedemit gets a bit hairy22:20
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bmacemriedem: i have heard some stories from the folks looking at it about the hair ;)22:22
smcginnismriedem: cinderclient is released. I think we need to raise the minimum version though.22:25
smcginnismriedem: But new deployments are likely getting the latest and goodest.22:26
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openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: WIP - move urlmap.py  https://review.openstack.org/44452422:27
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: WIP - Combine the two auth.py files  https://review.openstack.org/44452122:27
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: WIP - Move __init__.py  https://review.openstack.org/44452222:27
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: WIP - Move wsgi.py  https://review.openstack.org/44452322:27
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: WIP - Move common.py  https://review.openstack.org/44566822:27
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: WIP - move api_version_request  https://review.openstack.org/44566922:27
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: WIP - move compute directory  https://review.openstack.org/44567022:27
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: WIP - Move the test fakes  https://review.openstack.org/44567122:27
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mriedemsmcginnis: ok yeah we need the g-r bump then for ildikov's patch to check the max available version in nova22:32
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openstackgerritAnusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova master: POC: add descriptions to server tags  https://review.openstack.org/43484222:45
EmilienMmriedem: FYI I abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/428424/ - you win22:46
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openstackgerritSamantha Blanco proposed openstack/nova master: [WIP] Make flavor-rxtx policy more granular  https://review.openstack.org/44403622:57
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