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haypodansmith, i succeeded to write the patch to replace dict(obj.iteritems()) with dict(obj), and i now understood why sqlalchemy code cannot be modified00:03
haypodansmith, i proposed a patch for oslo.db, similar to my patch for oslo.versionedobjects00:03
dansmithokay00:03
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haypodansmith, thanks for your help on these patches ;)00:06
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dansmithI haven't done anything other than disagree a little, but.. sure :)00:07
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ijwjaypipes: dude00:27
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openstackgerritVilobh Meshram proposed openstack/nova-specs: Replace Zookeeper, Memcache servicegroup driver with respective Tooz drivers  https://review.openstack.org/13860701:04
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openstackgerritwanghao proposed openstack/nova: fix 'Ignoring EndpointNotFound' error in init host  https://review.openstack.org/14704201:19
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Drop explicit suds dependency  https://review.openstack.org/18155401:28
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jaypipesijw_: yes, dude?01:42
openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova-specs: Store console auth tokens in DB with object supported  https://review.openstack.org/17767101:42
ijw_dude.01:42
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ijw_On the fault monitoring, are you a little less in the dark?  Also, summit.  Beer.01:43
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openstackgerritVincent Hou proposed openstack/nova: Add a new parameter connector into migrate_volume_completion  https://review.openstack.org/18181803:54
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openstackgerritNisha Agarwal proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add IronicFilter for ironic act-upon capabilities  https://review.openstack.org/18258104:44
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openstackgerritRoman Bogorodskiy proposed openstack/nova-specs: User-controlled SR-IOV ports allocation  https://review.openstack.org/18224204:57
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openstackgerritJason Meridth proposed openstack/nova: Optimize the way we search for instance UUIDs  https://review.openstack.org/18293105:02
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openstackgerritJason Meridth proposed openstack/nova: Optimize the way we search for instance UUIDs  https://review.openstack.org/18293105:03
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openstackgerritTina Tang proposed openstack/nova: Fix in LibvirtISCSIVolumeDriver to avoid deleting incorrect device  https://review.openstack.org/18256505:31
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openstackgerritEric Brown proposed openstack/nova: Fix tenant_network test  https://review.openstack.org/16901605:42
openstackgerritEric Brown proposed openstack/nova: Fix config option types  https://review.openstack.org/16848105:43
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/17963806:24
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openstackgerritAbhishek Kekane proposed openstack/nova-specs: Improve performance of UnShelve API  https://review.openstack.org/13538706:25
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: The instance property "disable_terminate" is not actually needed  https://review.openstack.org/18295307:07
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openstackgerritQiu Yu proposed openstack/nova: Force iSCSI disconnect after timeout  https://review.openstack.org/16781507:17
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openstackgerritRadoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova: VMware: detach cinder volume when instance destroyed  https://review.openstack.org/16973207:35
openstackgerritPranali Deore proposed openstack/nova: Delete shelved_* keys in n-cpu unshelve call  https://review.openstack.org/16065807:35
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gilliardGood morning Nova!07:54
gilliardNice: https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2015-May/msg00345.html :)_07:55
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openstackgerritHans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Make sure prep_resize() calls for retry with flavor object  https://review.openstack.org/18296508:01
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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova: Merge test_access_ips between v2 and v2.1  https://review.openstack.org/18296708:15
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openstackgerritRui Chen proposed openstack/nova: CreateVM supports subnet specified  https://review.openstack.org/18296908:19
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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova: Merge user_data functional tests of v2 and v2.1  https://review.openstack.org/16826508:25
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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova: Merge extension-info functional tests of v2 and v2.1  https://review.openstack.org/17570108:29
openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova: Merge extended-volume functional tests of v2 and v2.1  https://review.openstack.org/17321608:29
RuiChenjohnthetubaguy: hi, I push a demo patch, it may be helpful for describing my purposed implemented of this spec, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169638/, I would appreciate if you could review it :)08:29
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johnthetubaguyRuiChen: hi, I didn't see you have replied to my comments09:07
johnthetubaguyRuiChen: I get so much email from gerrit, its super easy to not see these09:07
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openstackgerritMikhail Feoktistov proposed openstack/nova: Virtuozzo instance resize support  https://review.openstack.org/18225709:09
RuiChenjohnthetubaguy: it doesn't matter :)09:10
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RuiChenjohnthetubaguy: reviewing is a heavy works :)09:11
johnthetubaguyRuiChen: basically v2.1 has settled on strong validation, to reduce the chance of ever confusing the users09:11
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johnthetubaguyRuiChen: I am full time reviewing specs at this point, its quite exhausting!09:12
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johnthetubaguyRuiChen: does that make sense, about the strong validation, can you see that helping people?09:15
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openstackgerritRajesh Tailor proposed openstack/nova: Fix quota-update when nova-compute startup finish  https://review.openstack.org/17011809:17
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sudiptojohnthetubaguy, actually, I just tried a nova boot using a port_id that doesn't belong to a given subnet associated with a network. The validation wasn't performed at the API level. It failed eventually at nova-compute...09:26
sudiptojohnthetubaguy, this is w.r.t one of the comments i posted for RuiChen , I guess i was too early.09:26
johnthetubaguysudipto: thats a tricky bug, we want the API to return quickly, so we don't call neutron in the API layer to validate that09:28
johnthetubaguysudipto: could it be clearer to the user why things failed, yes, very much so09:28
sudiptojohnthetubaguy, hmm yeah....that makes sense. Wouldn't scale i suppose, validating everything at the API layer.09:28
johnthetubaguysudipto: well, its bad keeping the http connection hanging so long really, yeah09:29
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sudiptojohnthetubaguy, based on a similar logic, the strong validations that you recommend in the BP would be minimal at the API layer i suppose. If a user specifies a subnet and a network id and that potentially leads to a conflict - we would only fail later. Right?09:30
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johnthetubaguysudipto: yep, its more about, specify a port-id and a subnet-id, really you should just specify a port-id, I think09:32
sudiptojohnthetubaguy, maybe that way, having a subnet_id and a network_id is a validation check at the API layer, given if subnet_id is specified - it would always correspond to one network_id only.09:32
johnthetubaguyRuiChen: probably the best thing to do, is list out *all* the use cases you think we should support09:32
sudiptojohnthetubaguy, yeah that makes sense!09:32
openstackgerritRoman Podoliaka proposed openstack/nova: Fix rebuild of an instance with a volume attached  https://review.openstack.org/17689109:32
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johnthetubaguysudipto: RuiChen: I am like to strip back to the simplest approach that meets the required use cases, make it work really well, and easy to use/understand/documented, then add complexity if we find a good reason for it09:33
sudiptojohnthetubaguy, yep, agreed!09:34
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johnthetubaguyRuiChen: does the above all make sense, and help you create the next version of your nova-spec?09:38
RuiChenjohnthetubaguy: sudipto: sorry for reply late, I get on a phone.09:39
RuiChenjohnthetubaguy: yes, I get your point09:39
johnthetubaguyRuiChen: no worries, phones happen09:40
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johnthetubaguyRuiChen: does that make good sense though, the reasons behind the idea? just wanting to make sure it still helps the use case you are trying to work on09:40
RuiChenjohnthetubaguy: I think the simplest case is that we boot instance with port or subnet or network, they shouldn't been specified at same time.09:44
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RuiChenjohnthetubaguy: I can add the check in the next spec09:44
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sudiptoRuiChen, note - the net_id and the port_id are specified together today. So that isn't something we would probably want to change...09:45
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RuiChensudipto: yes, if the port_id have confict with net_id, net_id will be ignored09:47
sudiptoRuiChen, In today's date, we don't ignore it. We fail at the nova-compute.09:48
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openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/nova: Ironic: Fix felete instance when spawming  https://review.openstack.org/18299209:57
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RuiChensudipto: If I remember correctly, when validate_networks in nova-api, the request.network_id was overrided by port['network_id'] after showing port.09:59
openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/nova: Ironic: Fix delete instance when spawming  https://review.openstack.org/18299209:59
johnthetubaguyRuiChen: sudipto: right, this is why I like the only allow one approach, we can add that with a microversions (I think, anyways)09:59
johnthetubaguypeople not using the newer version, can keep doing what they always did10:00
sudiptoRuiChen, Sorry, I referred to a case, where you have specified port_id that isn't valid and doesn't not belong to any subnet - but - the network id is valid. In such a case, it would probably lead to a resource not found at the compute layer.10:00
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sudiptoRuiChen, and the case you mentioned, I just tried it out: InvalidIpForNetworkClient: IP address 192.168.1.3 is not a valid IP for any of the subnets on the specified network.10:06
sudiptoRuiChen, so that doesn't work either.10:06
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RuiChensudipto: net_id is valid, but no subnet in it, right?10:08
sudiptoRuiChen, the net_id has a subnet which is not the same as the IP I have provided.10:08
johnthetubaguyOK, lets just enumerate all the use cases we want to support, with some justification10:09
johnthetubaguyin that spec10:09
johnthetubaguythat should help make it clearer10:09
johnthetubaguy(don't worry about backwards compatibility on the first pass through that)10:10
openstackgerritRoman Podoliaka proposed openstack/nova: rebuild: make sure server is shut down before volumes are detached  https://review.openstack.org/17689210:11
RuiChensudipto: I know your meaning, :) it's interesting case10:11
openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: The instance property "disable_terminate" is not actually needed  https://review.openstack.org/18295310:12
sudiptojohnthetubaguy, RuiChen sure.10:12
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openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: set caps on maximum live migration time  https://review.openstack.org/16225410:20
openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: support management of downtime during migration  https://review.openstack.org/16225310:20
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openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: mark NUMA huge page mappings as shared access  https://review.openstack.org/17636010:21
openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: convert imagebackend to support nova.virt.image.model classes  https://review.openstack.org/13202410:23
openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: virt: convert VFS API to use nova.virt.image.model  https://review.openstack.org/13202210:24
openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: virt: convert disk API over to use nova.virt.image.model  https://review.openstack.org/13202310:24
openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: virt: introduce model for describing local image metadata  https://review.openstack.org/13202010:24
openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: virt: convert disk mount API to use nova.virt.image.model  https://review.openstack.org/13202110:24
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openstackgerritRajesh Tailor proposed openstack/nova: Remove cell api overrides for force-delete  https://review.openstack.org/13520210:36
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openstackgerritPetrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: ensure only one log writer is spawned per VM  https://review.openstack.org/18011111:05
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openstackgerritPetrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: restart serial console workers after instance power change  https://review.openstack.org/16308011:05
openstackgerritPetrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: Nova serial console access support  https://review.openstack.org/14500411:05
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/python-novaclient: pass credentials via config file instead of magic  https://review.openstack.org/18300711:07
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openstackgerritPetrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: Nova serial console access support  https://review.openstack.org/14500411:22
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openstackgerritp-draigbrady proposed openstack/nova: Handle config drives being stored on rbd  https://review.openstack.org/12307311:44
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/python-novaclient: pass credentials via config file instead of magic  https://review.openstack.org/18300711:46
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danpbjogo: sdague:  any idea how we get gerrit changed such that users are permitted to restore /any/ abandoned changes11:47
danpbcurrently users are pinging cores to get changes restored, or worse,   replacing the changeid thus loosing previous review history11:48
danpbso blocking them from using the restore button seems pretty counterproductive11:48
sdagueok, it's never been a huge issue before11:49
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sdaguethere is probably a permissions change for that, it has other implications that I haven't thought through11:49
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danpbits not a huge issue, it just seems like one of those annoying edge cases we could just facilitate11:50
sdagueI assume there was a spike because jogo flushed all the presume abandoned reviews11:50
danpbyep11:50
danpbi couldn't think of particular downside of letting users unabandon anything, given that they have the ability to just post new reviews with different changeid11:51
sdaguewe could, the problem is that there is also a ton of cruft in the abandon pile, and the gerrit owner is immutable11:51
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sdaguewhich makes the entire gerrit change flow really broken when you restore someone else's review11:52
sdaguebecause it will not be owner:self11:52
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sdagueso, honestly, if someone else is running with a ball, it's often much better to start from scratch, reference the old one by comment and move forward11:53
danpbsure but we already have that issue when people take over someone's unabandoned reviews11:53
sdaguewe do11:53
danpbits annoying, but imho its worth it, as preserving comment history is more important to reviewers11:53
sdaguemaybe11:55
sdagueso, honestly, for a blanket policy change like that, it really needs to be a mailing list thread, I think there are a lot of different povs on this one11:57
sdagueand... the reality is it's a 5 second request11:57
sdagueany core can flip it11:57
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openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: devref: add a description of flavors  https://review.openstack.org/17862811:59
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sdagueI'm not hugely opposed to it, but I'm also not convinced it's a clear win. The "auto" Abandoned patches saw 0 activity (no comments of any kind) in 4 weeks, and were in an unmergable state (either -2 or jenkins -1), so the active core ping isn't a terrible thing, as it gets people connected again.12:02
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sdaguejohnthetubaguy: you have a pov on that on?12:03
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danpbit just feels like an unnecessary obstacle for our contributors to me12:05
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/python-novaclient: pass credentials via config file instead of magic  https://review.openstack.org/18300712:06
tdurakovsahid, hi12:06
sdagueok, that's fine, like I said I'm kind of middle of the road. Would like other core perspectives there. I expect the infra team will want this to be a global policy if it's a change, so that it's not different per project12:07
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sdaguealso, I'll restore any patch anyone wants if they ping me, I don't mind the pings12:08
moshelejaypipes: hi12:12
jaypipesmoshele: hi!12:12
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moshelejaypipes: I prepared etherpad for all the nova neutron sriov features in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-sriov12:13
openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova-specs: Remove disable_terminate  https://review.openstack.org/18302312:13
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jaypipesmoshele: ah, cheers!12:13
jaypipesmoshele: when is that meeting?12:14
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moshelejaypipes: I didn't send a mail yet I want to arrange one12:15
jaypipesmoshele: l12:15
jaypipesmoshele: k, sounds good. :)12:15
moshelejaypipes: great12:16
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jaypipesmoshele: perhaps a BoF session would work best>12:17
jaypipes?12:17
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moshelemoshele: how do I do that?12:18
moshelejaypipes:  how do I do that?12:19
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jaypipesmoshele: there will be a whiteboard area at the design summit to add BoF session ideas to. People will just come to it.12:22
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jaypipesmoshele: in the meantime, though, definitely send an email out to openstack-dev ML with that etherpad and encourage people to provide feedback, ok?12:22
moshelejaypipes: ok12:22
moshelejaypipes: sure, thanks12:23
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/python-novaclient: pass credentials via config file instead of magic  https://review.openstack.org/18300712:32
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openstackgerritPetrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: Implement nova rescue  https://review.openstack.org/12715912:33
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openstackgerritPetrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: Add Hyper-V storage QoS support  https://review.openstack.org/17547912:36
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Drop explicit suds dependency  https://review.openstack.org/18155412:39
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johnthetubaguydanpb: sdague: what about the new change just referencing the old change id so you get the history that way?12:46
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova-specs: Optional shared storage flag in evacuate API  https://review.openstack.org/18303312:47
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sdaguejohnthetubaguy: yeh, honestly, because of the immutable owner problem, that feels reasonable to me12:48
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danpbjohnthetubaguy: it all just feels like one more unnecessary hurdle for contributors really12:49
openstackgerritPetrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova-specs: Hyper-V: Add storage QoS support  https://review.openstack.org/17542212:50
johnthetubaguydanpb: this is working around a gerrit issue right, we should go fix the gerrit issue, but we need to work around it in the meantime, right?12:51
openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova-specs: Remove disable_terminate  https://review.openstack.org/18302312:51
johnthetubaguydanpb: the issue with everyone able to un abandon is it leads them down a separate path of despair right?12:51
openstackgerritPetrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: Implement nova rescue  https://review.openstack.org/12715912:52
johnthetubaguydanpb: sdague: that error message you get when pushing to an abandoned patch with git review should probably describe what to do I guess, whatever we decide?12:53
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: yeh, I wonder if there is a way to do it in a policy agnostic way. git-review is used by other people, so the policy semantics may not match12:55
johnthetubaguysdague: ah, good point12:56
johnthetubaguysdague: reads a error message from the git repo? although that seems a little evil12:57
sdagueoh, actually, I think restore is coupled to abandon12:57
sdagueat least I'm not seeing restore as a separate acl12:57
sdaguewhich is why it's restricted to owner + core12:57
johnthetubaguyoh...12:58
openstackgerritJason Meridth proposed openstack/nova: Optimize the way we search for instance UUIDs  https://review.openstack.org/18293112:58
johnthetubaguywell I kinda get why I supose12:58
sdagueyeh - https://review.openstack.org/Documentation/access-control.html#category_abandon12:58
sdagueso, in that case, no, we *very* much can't open that up12:58
danpburgh, thankyou gerrit :-(12:59
danpbso much for that idea12:59
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sdagueit would also be good to figure out if there is some other policy rule we should put in place in the auto abandon script if it creates a flush of restores13:00
sdaguelike why people left these patches completely dead and blocked for > 1 month, and then rushed in to restore after the abandon13:01
sdaguelike is there another filter we should apply about why it was valid to have blocked code hanging out in the system for that long13:01
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BobBalljohnthetubaguy: We've been monitoring the libvirt+xen CI (XenProject CI) results for a while now and to let you know, we have just enabled voting (yay).13:02
sdaguedanpb: any ideas on that front? sounds like you were getting pinged by folks about it13:02
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johnthetubaguyBobBall: OK, sounds like a good step, assuming it keeps working :)13:03
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BobBallI have every faith! We will continue to monitor, of course, but just ping me if you (or anyone!) sees anything dodgy.13:04
danpbsdague: well the most recent case was that someone was already working on taking over a patch that someone13:05
danpbsdague: and when they came to upload it found the patch had been auto-abandoned13:05
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danpbsome of my own patches were auto-abandoned too - i'd simply not got around to rebasing them after a merge conflict, as i was focusing time on a different patch series13:06
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/python-novaclient: pass credentials via config file instead of magic  https://review.openstack.org/18300713:10
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sdagueyeh, I think if we do any auto flushing of old patches out of the system, someone is going to be on the cusp13:13
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sdaguethe immutable owner problem also means that take over authors can't abandon patches later if they realize it's not required13:14
danpbyeah not much we can really do about it13:14
danpbjust a shame gerrit is limiting us here :-(13:15
sdagueyeh, I think it's a use case they didn't anticipate, which is why --reset-author doesn't change the owner13:15
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sdaguewould be a good upstream gerrit thing to look into13:15
johnthetubaguysdague: danpb: its a good thing to try and fix13:16
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sdaguewell, it would be handy if we had more than 1 openstack person trying to contribute there. Right now it's just zaro13:17
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johnthetubaguysdague: good point13:23
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baolidansmith: ping, RE: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179390/2/nova/objects/external_event.py13:45
dansmithbaoli: pong13:45
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baolidansmith: Regarding your second comment, thought you wanted me to address that. So I took a look at it.13:47
baolidansmith: So I changed it to Enum and fixing test failures, and saw this line https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/manager.py#L561.13:48
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dansmithI didn't really mean you had to, no13:48
baolidansmith: the events are named with '-', and the key is made with 'event-tag'13:48
dansmithbaoli: yeah, those aren't event objects there.. anyway, did not mean you had to make that change13:49
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baolidansmith, ok, I will skip it. but is this a bug https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/manager.py#L56113:50
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dansmithoh, because the events have - chars in them13:52
jmeridthbeagles: I was directed to you to ask about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182931 and why we might have been using such a weird value for a query (example: GET /v2.0/ports.json?fixed_ips=ip_address%3D192.168.1.1)13:52
dansmithbaoli: you're right, I'll fix13:52
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johnthetubaguyabhishekk mikal tjones cburgess jgrimm adrian_otto funzo mjturek jcookekhugen irina_pov krtaylor danpb alexpilotti flip214 jaypipes gilliard garyk edleafe dims moshele anteaya Nisha sileht claudiub lxsli neiljerram markus_z swamireddy alevine tonyb andreykurilin ndipanov sc68cal akuriata artom jlvillal Nova meeting over in #openstack-meeting in just over 5 mins13:53
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Add policy to cover snapshotting of volume backed instances  https://review.openstack.org/17680513:53
baolidansmith, ok do you mind if I  open a bug and have it addressed together with the change to EnumField since I'm already in the middle of it?13:53
sdaguefyi - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183007/ is needed to get python-novaclient able to merge code again13:53
sdaguedue to tox changes13:53
dansmithbaoli: okay, this bug fix, the enum change, and your change should all be separate13:54
mriedemsdague: is there a bug for the tox thing?13:54
baolidansmith, so three patches then.13:54
sdaguemriedem: I honestly don't know, there was the email lifeless sent13:54
dansmithbaoli: yep13:55
sdaguebut it was missing a bug, or even what the problem was and what was blocked by it13:55
baolidansmith, cool, thanks. will get them up for review soon13:55
dansmithbaoli: cool, thanks13:55
sdaguemriedem: I'll file one now13:56
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baolidansmith, for the fix, do you want to have a different separator between the event name and the tag, or you want to keep the '-' as the separator.13:57
dansmithbaoli: use rsplit13:57
baolidansmith, make sense.13:57
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mriedemsdague: thanks13:58
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sdaguehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-gate/+bug/145510214:00
openstackLaunchpad bug 1455102 in OpenStack-Gate "some test jobs broken by tox 2.0 not passing env variables" [Undecided,Confirmed]14:00
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sdaguemriedem: you want me to respin with Related-Bug ?14:02
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mriedemsdague: please14:02
mriedemsdague: also had a comment about oslo.config14:02
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mriedemwhy not use that? too clunky?14:02
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sdagueso, honestly, oslo.config brings a whole other set of overhead, assumptions on global objects, etc, etc14:07
sdaguewhich would potentially also collide with actual oslo.config used by novaclient14:08
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mriedemdoesn't keystoneclient and keystonemiddlware using oslo.config?14:09
sdagueyes14:09
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sdaguejaypipes: so... when you run tox -e functional, you always first cd novaclient/tests/functional and ls first?14:10
jaypipessdague: no. but I don't see why that is an issue.14:10
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sdaguebecause git clone14:11
sdagueoh, there is tox14:11
sdaguetox -e functional14:11
sdagueI feel like if top level testing isn't top level discoverable for config, it's a fail14:11
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jaypipessdague: I don't feel all that strongly about it.14:13
jaypipessdague: was just expressing my opinion.14:13
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openstackgerritBaodong (Robert) Li proposed openstack/nova: Handle port delete event  https://review.openstack.org/17939014:17
dansmithmriedem: yeah, I was going to14:17
mriedemdansmith: at first i thought that was the other bug that john linked in the meeting14:18
dansmithokay14:19
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openstackgerritTimofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova-specs: nova-api hypervisor.cpu_info change from string to json object  https://review.openstack.org/18305714:24
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openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/nova: Ironic: Fix delete instance when spawming  https://review.openstack.org/18299214:27
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openstackgerritBaodong (Robert) Li proposed openstack/nova: Split instance event/tag correctly  https://review.openstack.org/18306114:29
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openstackgerritSudipta Biswas proposed openstack/nova-specs: Report host memory bandwidth as a metric in Nova  https://review.openstack.org/18098314:31
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/python-novaclient: pass credentials via config file instead of magic  https://review.openstack.org/18300714:38
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PaulMurrayjohnthetubaguy, do you if alaski is about at the moment?14:41
alaskiPaulMurray: I am14:42
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gilliardOh hello alaski :) I want to ask you about the Tasks API14:42
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sdaguejohnthetubaguy / mriedem / jaypipes that's the updated patch with the bug ref, and some readme adds. The conf file is still in the root, because I feel medium strong on the discoverability problem.14:42
PaulMurrayhi alaski - has gilliard talked to you today - oh ^^14:43
PaulMurraythere you go14:43
alaskiheh14:43
gilliardThanks PaulMurray :)14:43
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openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/nova: Disk utils: use oslo_utils instead of oslo.utils  https://review.openstack.org/16672114:44
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PaulMurrayalaski, gilliard keeps losing his connection - he is trying14:45
beaglesjmeridth, just noticed your query... gimme a sec to context switch14:45
mriedemsdague: question inline before approval14:45
gilliardalaski: my spec for cancelling a live migration has led me to wonder what the current status of the Tasks API is14:45
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alaskimriedem: dansmith https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182772/ fixes one of the cells failures, for your consideration after more important things like tox breakages14:46
alaskigilliard: the consensus last cycle was that we should wait for microversions so we could add it properly14:47
sdaguemriedem: you are correct, I did not fix the sample14:47
sdagueI will respin14:47
mriedembooya!14:47
johnthetubaguyalaski: gilliard PaulMurray: I think tasks might come up during this session at the summit: http://libertydesignsummit.sched.org/event/00b88bb8407cc5400b0ec59ef4ac1ed814:47
alaskigilliard: now that we are moving forward with them, it could be revived14:47
johnthetubaguymriedem: I am going blind, oops14:47
gilliardalaski: oh, good14:47
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/python-novaclient: pass credentials via config file instead of magic  https://review.openstack.org/18300714:48
mriedemjohnthetubaguy: i've disagreed with both you and jaypipes so no we are no longer friends per the meeting14:48
sdaguemriedem: good catch, thank you14:48
mriedem*now14:48
johnthetubaguymriedem: :'(14:48
alaskigilliard: but I could use someone to help with that work, as I won't be able to push it as much now14:48
openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/nova: Neutron: configure requested amount of fixed_ips  https://review.openstack.org/16386414:48
gilliardalaski: I also added that spec to the spec unconference because of the Qs about the tasks API14:49
openstackgerritSudipta Biswas proposed openstack/nova-specs: Report host memory bandwidth as a metric in Nova  https://review.openstack.org/18098314:49
dansmithalaski: so, we could just check instance.cell_name and only re-run if we got one, instead of the first_run=False stuff, right?14:50
gilliardalaski: I will be able to help.14:50
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dansmithalaski: might be a *little* more straightforward14:50
alaskidansmith: yep, that would work14:50
alaskigilliard: awesome, I'm digging up the old reviews14:50
johnthetubaguygilliard: will you be able to make that summit session?14:51
alaskigilliard: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86938/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70417/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70418/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70421/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68994/ all in various states of shoddiness14:52
gilliardI'm planning to be at all the design summit except thursday afternoon johnthetubaguy14:52
alaskigilliard: I'd like to help that move forward however I can, I'll just be pushing on cells more14:52
johnthetubaguygilliard: ok, cool14:53
gilliardalaski: Thanks I'll look through those.14:53
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beaglesjmeridth, I'm curious if you've tried your patch on a standard based install14:56
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beaglesjmeridth, ugh.. sorry. I meant against ML2 reference install.14:57
beaglesjmeridth, because by glancing it doesn't look like it would work14:57
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Retry a cell delete if host constraint fails  https://review.openstack.org/18277214:58
openstackgerritTimofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova-specs: nova-api hypervisor.cpu_info change from string to json object  https://review.openstack.org/18305714:59
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openstackgerritStuart McLaren proposed openstack/nova: Add explicit dependency on python-keystoneclient  https://review.openstack.org/18196615:01
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mriedemalaski: little nit inline, otherwise lgmt15:06
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mriedem*lgtm even15:06
tdurakovjohnthetubaguy: hi, could you review  spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183057/15:06
dansmithlucasagomes: SPAWNING is a vm_state, right?15:06
dansmithlucasagomes: er, I guess I meant BUILDING as the vm_state15:07
mriedemalaski: plus a question i guess15:07
dansmithlucasagomes: that will allow spawning and other task_states to happen, but if we end up in ERROR or DELETED vm_state, then you'd bail15:07
lucasagomesdansmith, and REBUILDING?15:07
mriedemalaski: if instance.cell_name is still None after the refresh, don't you want to fail?15:07
lucasagomesyou can rebuild an instance no?15:08
alaskimriedem: ahh, good call15:08
dansmithlucasagomes: hmm, no rebuilding vm_state.. not sure what vm_state we're in during rebuild15:08
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dansmithlucasagomes: anyway, just wanted to make sure that loop is loose enough to break out for more than just the obvious delete while building15:08
lucasagomesdansmith, right cause I'm looking at the task_states.py file and there's a bunch of states there15:09
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openstackgerritSergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Added method exists to the Tag object  https://review.openstack.org/17810315:09
lucasagomesI don't want to mess up stuff cause if it stays in that loop it's not a big deal. Ironic will error out and it will break the loop15:09
lucasagomes(there's a timeout for deployments)15:09
dansmithlucasagomes: they're all transient, which is why I don't want you to miss going into deleting for a half second and then keep looping15:09
dansmithah15:09
dansmithokay15:09
dansmiththat's fair then15:09
lucasagomesyeah15:09
lucasagomesplus, with that lock I don't think that nova will allow any other operation to race with spawn()15:10
dansmithit will15:10
dansmiththe only place that lock is checked is on compute15:10
dansmithanything the api does won't check it15:10
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lucasagomesoh I see15:10
lucasagomesright perhaps I can add a check for [DELETING, DELETED] and some other obivious errors15:11
lucasagomesif we miss that the loop will break once ironic times out15:11
lucasagomeslike before... so that's safe15:11
dansmithyeah, checking DELETED and ERROR would be good I think15:11
lucasagomesack15:11
dansmiththose are vm_states though, not task_state15:11
lucasagomeswill check thoses too15:11
lucasagomesdansmith, thanks for the tips15:11
dansmithnp15:11
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pedroalvarezHi guys, I'm woindering why the psutil version that you need to use has to be <2.0.015:13
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BobBallJust discovered https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/zuul/layout.yaml#L586 - Any objection to the libvirt+xen CI skipping testing changes if all files are in nova/virt/{xenapi,vmwareapi,hyperv,ironic}?15:14
pedroalvarezwe have been using Nova with psutils 2.2 without problems for a while. What kind of tests should I do to prove that we can use that version?15:15
bauzasso, guys, see you in Vancouver, my flight is tomorrow morning and today is a French holiday (again... :( )15:17
alaskibauzas: safe travels15:17
bauzasty15:18
openstackgerritPetrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: Nova serial console access support  https://review.openstack.org/14500415:18
openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: remove suds tests  https://review.openstack.org/18307815:20
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Retry a cell delete if host constraint fails  https://review.openstack.org/18277215:22
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openstackgerritjaveme proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Prefer ShutdownGuest to PowerOffVM_Task  https://review.openstack.org/18163415:25
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openstackgerritTimofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova-specs: nova-api hypervisor.cpu_info change from string to json object  https://review.openstack.org/18305715:33
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jmeridthbeagles: I haven't.  We're using our own plugin that isn't ML2.  Will look at it more to make sure it will work.  thanks for input.  you have any idea why the query is that way, seems weird.15:35
cfriesenI'm working on fixing up a unit test failures for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182766/.   In the test_build_and_run_no_more_fixedips_exception testcase I'm seeing a "StopIteration: None" exception at http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/compute/manager.py#n205415:36
cfriesennot sure what would be causing that15:36
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dansmithcfriesen: oh, I was working on that, since you said you wouldn't get to it15:38
dansmithcfriesen: but happy to let you continue15:38
cfriesendansmith: heh...saw that you had added a couple15:38
cfriesendansmith: if you've gone further, you're probably a whole lot more efficient at it than me. :)15:39
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dansmithI had stopped for toaster waffles when I got to the test_resource_tracker tests that pass in dict instances15:39
dansmithhave you finished that?15:39
openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/nova: Ironic: Fix delete instance when spawning  https://review.openstack.org/18299215:39
cfriesendansmith: I literally just started15:39
dansmithdamn15:39
dansmithwell, let me push up what I've done at least15:40
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Fix race between resource audit and cpu pinning  https://review.openstack.org/18276615:40
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dansmithah15:42
cfriesendansmith: good thing you started, it would have taken me forever to clue into the object context change15:43
dansmithalmost have that stopiteration one fixed15:43
beaglesjmeridth, it is a good question really. It is quite possibly simply that the REST API for neutron is at times a very thin layer of the data model. Since the ip address is not itself part of the Port object/tuple/whatever-you-want-to-call it, the filter was not constructed as if it were.15:44
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cfriesendansmith: actually, looks like that object context change isn't complete.  "AttributeError: 'TestInstanceClaim' object has no attribute 'context'"    Was that a work in progress?15:49
dansmithcfriesen: no, it only covered a few things15:50
cfriesendansmith: okay15:50
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dansmithjust fixed the stopiteration one15:50
jmeridthbeagles: gotcha, thx15:53
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cfriesendansmith: I must be missing something.  with that context change in test_tracker.py I'm getting all testcases failing16:06
cfriesenall testcases in that file, I mean16:06
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dansmithhang on, let me finish compute_mgr and I'll re-run16:06
cfriesenkay16:06
dansmithsometimes you make a typo and testr is like "doesn't compile, so no tests failed!"16:07
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jogodanpb: yeah I don't see why we should limit who can restore a patch16:09
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jogodanpb: and just finished reading backlog, we can file a bug with upstream gerrit for this16:10
jogodanpb: https://code.google.com/p/gerrit/issues/list16:10
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openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: remove redundant check for block devices  https://review.openstack.org/17064116:12
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garykis danpb on irc?16:13
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kashyapgaryk: He is here again these days, just that he's afk for a bit now I guess :-)16:14
garykit is nice to see that he is back16:14
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openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: remove suds tests  https://review.openstack.org/18307816:19
openstackgerritMikhail Feoktistov proposed openstack/nova: Virtuozzo instance resize support  https://review.openstack.org/18225716:21
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cfriesendansmith: for the test_tracker.py tests, previously it must have been calling self.conductor_api.instance_update() but I don't see that mocked out anywhere in that file.16:40
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Use clouds.yaml for functional test credentials  https://review.openstack.org/18310616:40
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mordredsdague: ^^ there's teh update to use clouds.yaml16:42
mordredsdague: when we get it into shape shape, it seems like maybe a thing that shoudl go into oslo.test as a fixture16:43
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Fix race between resource audit and cpu pinning  https://review.openstack.org/18276616:44
dansmithcfriesen: pretty sure you owe me one of those uncollectable beers for that ^16:44
cfriesendansmith: definitely16:45
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mordreddansmith: it's hard to collect beers - they tend to be consumables16:45
cfriesendansmith: question...since we're mocking out the save, why do we need the _context?16:46
openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/nova: Ironic: Lightweight node states check  https://review.openstack.org/18310716:46
dansmithmordred: previously, I had explained in here that beers are the unofficial currency of opensource, and that they're oft-promised, rarely-collected16:46
dansmithmordred: so "collected" here is equivalent to "consumption"16:46
mordreddansmith: ah. gotcha. I am caught up16:46
dansmithhehe16:46
* mordred drinks another beer16:47
dansmithcfriesen: might've been an ordering thing16:47
dansmithcfriesen: if I added context and then mocked out the thing needing it, then you can/should undo that16:47
cfriesendansmith: will check it out16:47
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cfriesendanmsith: looks like it's not needed.  I'm also making the change suggested by nikola.16:54
jogodansmith: want to review this and make backlog specs work https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182793/16:54
jogojohnthetubaguy: ^16:54
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cfriesendansmith: for my own edification though, how was it that the testcase was previously handling the call to self.conductor_api.instance_update()?16:55
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johnthetubaguyjogo: thanks I had been meaning to take a look at doing that16:55
jogowe are starting to get backlog specs  which is good16:55
dansmithcfriesen: which one specifically?16:56
johnthetubaguyjogo: I asked the guy running the large ops group (VW) to start pushing those are way, so I was expecting a few16:56
jogowe got two from OVH16:56
johnthetubaguyjogo: ah, cool16:57
jogonot sure if the person realizes the spec has to go through review first16:57
cfriesendansmith: well, all those ones in test_tracker.py were you mocked out instance.save() would have been calling self.conductor_api.instance_update() previously, but I don't see that mocked out anywhere.16:57
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jogojohnthetubaguy: w.r.t. o the template16:58
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jogojohnthetubaguy: we will hit issues if we adjust it16:58
johnthetubaguyjogo: yeah, the tests would go awol right?16:58
jogowith the unit tests. but that is an issue we can deal with when when we cross that bridge16:58
jogoyup16:58
johnthetubaguyyeah, agreed16:58
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johnthetubaguyI think just putting None in all those sections for now is fine16:58
johnthetubaguyor TBC, or whaever16:58
jogoyeah16:59
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andrewbogottvishy: Can you catch me up on the state of the art w/floating_ip routing in nova-network?  We’ve just jumped through some hoops to get routing working between instances with floating ips, but what I /really/ need is routing between floating ips and _all_ instances.  Is that working in the tip, or is it hopeless?16:59
johnthetubaguyjogo: I was thinking a backlog spec is a nice output from an operator session working group, that was the conversation that least to me talking about backlogs, FWIW16:59
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jogojohnthetubaguy: makes sense to me, that would be a really great outcome of a ops session17:00
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andrewbogott…I’m happy for anyone else who knows about nova-network to fill me in as well, just looks like Vish has worked on that code the most.17:03
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jogojohnthetubaguy: what is the process of taking over a backlog spec?17:05
jogosubmit it to a release?17:06
jogomove it maybe?17:06
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dansmithcfriesen: sorry eight convos at once, just a sec17:06
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cfriesendansmith: no worries, just curious17:13
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openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed openstack/nova-specs: Explain how to adopt a backlog spec  https://review.openstack.org/18311417:16
jogojohnthetubaguy: I have a hunch ^ will need another rev or two. But want to make the backlog specs more accessible for devs17:17
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openstackgerritjaveme proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Update to return the correct ESX iqn  https://review.openstack.org/16270017:20
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lucasagomesfolks, quick/dump question. How I do a soft delete?!17:21
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* lucasagomes is trying to figure out what soft delete means... I see a "restore" command in the CLI17:21
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lucasagomesdumb*17:22
dansmithlucasagomes: soft delete from the api side means stop the instance and put it into soft_deleted state17:23
dansmithand it can be deleted later by timer expiration17:23
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lucasagomesdansmith, oh right... but to put an instance is soft_deleted state it has to be active prior to that right? (I'm investigating it because someone asked about soft delete in that review for deleting an instance in "spawning" state)17:24
dansmithnot sure about that17:24
lucasagomesright, thanks I will investigate17:25
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openstackgerritChris Friesen proposed openstack/nova: Fix race between resource audit and cpu pinning  https://review.openstack.org/18276617:25
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dansmithcfriesen: it mocks out the entire conductor api,17:28
dansmithnot just update17:28
dansmithcfriesen: so that's why17:28
openstackgerritChris Friesen proposed openstack/nova: Fix race between resource audit and cpu pinning  https://review.openstack.org/18276617:28
cfriesen^ giving Dan proper credit. :)17:28
dansmithcfriesen: does that mean I don't get my beer?17:28
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cfriesendansmith: oh, the beer is still coming17:29
dansmithwhew.17:29
cfriesendansmith: where is the conductor API mocked out? part of the larger test framework?17:30
dansmithit's complicated and I didn't follow all of it,17:30
dansmithbut in setup_rt()17:30
dansmithmock.patch('nova.conductor.API', return_value=cond_api_mock),17:30
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cfriesenokay, I see it17:31
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dansmithfour lines of actual code change, 200 lines of test fixes..17:32
cfriesensays something about our testing framework, I think. :)17:33
dansmithwell, I think it's a positive statement,17:33
dansmithbut it's hard to feel that way at the moment17:34
cfriesenlol17:34
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openstackgerritLiang Chen proposed openstack/nova: Enable delete of retired services via nova-manage  https://review.openstack.org/14110517:38
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dansmithcds: https://review.openstack.org/18312717:41
dansmithmriedem: ^17:41
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mriedemdansmith: ok, i saw it failed on master in the gate17:46
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dansmithmriedem: way early fail during setup17:47
dansmithlike timeout talking to static.o.o17:47
openstackgerritBaodong (Robert) Li proposed openstack/nova: Use EnumField for instance external event name  https://review.openstack.org/18313117:47
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mriedemok, yeah some of that going around17:49
johnthetubaguy_jogo: sorry lost power due to my oven, but yes, I think its a move into a release, and completing the missing sections of the spec17:50
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mriedemlost power due to my oven?17:51
dansmithguessing a breaker popped :)17:51
johnthetubaguymriedem: yeah, I should fix that...17:51
mriedemyeah, but17:51
johnthetubaguydansmith: +117:51
dansmithdifferent electrical code over there I guess :)17:51
mriedemlet me guess, shephards pie17:51
johnthetubaguyfish cakes17:51
mriedemoh my17:51
dansmithshepherd's pie you mean17:52
johnthetubaguyyeah, the oven and sockets are on a circuit RCA thing17:52
johnthetubaguyanyway, I should get my shoes on, sally has her coat on and everything17:52
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: yeah, that's not allowed here17:52
dansmithgo go!17:53
johnthetubaguydansmith: interesting...17:53
johnthetubaguyits required here now17:53
johnthetubaguyanyways actually going...17:53
mriedemsee, in the US, when you burn your house down you can sue someone else and they change the laws/codes17:53
dansmithrequired that you have outlets on the same circuit as your oven?17:53
* dansmith will need further discussion later17:53
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mriedemin the US, you sue for hot coffee being too hot17:53
openstackgerritEric Brown proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Missing docstring on parameter  https://review.openstack.org/18313317:53
mriedemyes17:53
dansmithmriedem: in the us you .. just sue.17:54
mriedemhey!17:54
dansmithreasons can be figured out later17:54
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dansmithheh17:54
cdsdansmith: thanks17:54
cdsi sang the praises of the nova dev team17:54
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Use clouds.yaml for functional test credentials  https://review.openstack.org/18310617:54
dansmithwoot17:55
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dansmithalaski: can you look at this again and see if you think the compromise is reasonable? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175579/1018:02
dansmiththat allows create/update as well as list/get per-user18:03
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alaskidansmith: sure, give me about 30 mins18:03
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dansmithalaski: no, do it NOW18:03
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dansmithalaski: of course, whenever, just a nudge :)18:03
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alaskidansmith: heh18:03
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openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: objects: add a FlexibleBoolean field type  https://review.openstack.org/18108518:04
openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: objects: introduce BaseEnumField to allow subclassing  https://review.openstack.org/18108618:04
openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: objects: define the ImageMeta & ImageMetaProps objects  https://review.openstack.org/7623418:04
openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: objects: convert HVSpec to use named enums  https://review.openstack.org/18136818:04
openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: objects: convert VirtCPUModel to use named enums  https://review.openstack.org/18313918:04
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openstackgerritQin Zhao proposed openstack/nova: Ensure to store context in thread local after spawn/spawn_n  https://review.openstack.org/18314418:10
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openstackgerritBaodong (Robert) Li proposed openstack/nova: Use EnumField for instance external event name  https://review.openstack.org/18313118:29
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openstackgerritBaodong (Robert) Li proposed openstack/nova: Use EnumField for instance external event name  https://review.openstack.org/18313118:31
mriedemdims: on your remove suds patch, i didn't really understand your comment about the stubs and oslo.vmware?18:31
mriedemwhy are we stubbing suds in nova's vmware tests when it's oslo.vmware that's using suds and nova should be mocking out oslo.vmware?18:31
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dansmithmriedem: +4218:33
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jogomriedem: to make subtle bugs for us to fix in the future of course18:37
mriedemjogo: that's cool18:37
mriedemjob security18:37
jogomriedem: exactly18:37
dansmithjogo: nice18:37
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Fix pip-missing-reqs  https://review.openstack.org/18194418:39
mriedemjogo: rebased after a g-r update - can you hit that again? ^18:39
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openstackgerritJohn L. Villalovos proposed openstack/nova: Fix cells capacity calculation for n:1 virt drivers  https://review.openstack.org/13087718:41
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jogomriedem: done18:42
mriedemthanks18:42
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dansmithdoes anyone know what req.GET is in an api method?18:46
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openstackgerritJohn L. Villalovos proposed openstack/nova: Fix cells capacity calculation for n:1 virt drivers  https://review.openstack.org/13087718:46
dansmithlooks like maybe a dict of query parameters?18:47
dimsmriedem: i abandoned that patch now. really does not make sense. if you ever pull oslo.vmware, you will get suds for free. so we should not be adding our own suds entry in nova's requirements. we are just turning morphing that simple request into something else here...18:47
jogodims: the idea would to be isolate the suds reqs to oslo,vmware18:48
jogoat which point you can swap it out for something py3 compat or something like that18:48
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mriedemdims: soo.......couldn't i just go in and rip out all of the sudsy things in the nova vmware driver/testes?18:49
dimsthe work is already done jogo, i've made sure oslo.vmware and nova can both switch to suds-jurko already18:49
jogomriedem: ++18:49
mriedemdims: that's what i was getting at18:49
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mriedemif nova isn't using suds directly, then i agree it doesn't need to be in requirements.txt18:50
mriedembut neither does the suds stubs in the unit tests18:50
dimsmriedem: i've removed all the imports there are some indirect references which can be removed over time18:50
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mriedembut why?18:50
mriedemwhat's holding that up?18:50
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openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed openstack/nova: DNM: Showing test_can_resize_need_fs_type_specified has issues  https://review.openstack.org/18316518:50
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dimsmriedem: because i want to do it right, by adding stuff in oslo.vmware and then moving nova code to it (testing helpers)18:51
mriedemi admittedly haven't dug into the extent that the suds stubs are needed in nova or what they are used for so we'd need fixtures from oslo.vmware18:52
mriedemi guess i figured these could just be unit tests that mock out oslo.vmware apis as needed18:53
openstackgerritjaveme proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Prefer ShutdownGuest to PowerOffVM_Task  https://review.openstack.org/18163418:53
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dimsmriedem: that's fine, if that's the only way then i'll reinstate the patch when i have stuff ready in a oslo.vmware release and then we can revisit this issue. sorry this should not be this complicated.18:57
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alaskidansmith: should be http://webob.readthedocs.org/en/latest/modules/webob.html18:59
jogohyperV!18:59
jogowho is the maintainer of that CI18:59
jogoit is just reporting failure19:00
dansmithalaski: ah, right, thanks19:00
jogoanteaya: ^19:00
ociuhandujogo: hello, we’re working now to fix the CI19:00
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jogoociuhandu: please make it stop commenting until then19:00
ociuhanduwe’re sorry for it, will be back working fine in an hour at most19:00
ociuhandujogo: sure, right now19:00
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jogoociuhandu: in the future the moment you know it is broken make it stop commenting on patches19:01
ociuhandujogo: sorry for the false reports, we’ll go and re-check them asap19:01
jogoociuhandu: the issue in general is how trustworthy is the CI system19:01
jogoand the more false reports it gives the less we trust it19:01
jogoociuhandu: glad to hear you are fixing it and were able to respond so quickly btw!19:02
openstackgerritLiang Chen proposed openstack/nova: Enable delete of retired services via nova-manage  https://review.openstack.org/14110519:02
jogoociuhandu: thanks19:02
ociuhandujogo: we got into an issue on our devstack VM and I think we just found the solution, we’re currnetly testing it19:02
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mriedemlibvirt died :)19:03
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Drop explicit suds dependency  https://review.openstack.org/18155419:11
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dimsmriedem: jogo: totally ripped out the suds ^^^19:11
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mriedemdims: cool, will look in a bit19:12
dimsmriedem: jogo: i get what got dropped here into oslo.vmware when i get a chance19:12
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dimsthanks mriedem19:13
jogodims: thanks!, will review in a bit as well19:13
mriedemdansmith: looking at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LibvirtDistroSupportMatrix - will red hat support liberty on rhel 7.0?19:13
dansmithmriedem: dunno about 7.0 but 7.x yeah19:14
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mriedemwhere x > 019:14
mriedemwas looking to remove this workaround https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/host.py#L76419:14
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mriedemsays it's fixed in libvirt 1.2.019:14
mriedemso we'd be fine for trusty and rhel 7.119:15
mriedemi can't speak for sles/suse19:15
dansmithsgordon: can probably give a more satisfying answer than I can19:17
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mriedemhe's a suit right? :)19:17
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dansmithsgordon is not, no19:17
dansmithhe talks to suits19:17
mriedemsuit by proxy19:17
dansmithhe does dress with impeccable style though, but I wouldn't hold that against him19:18
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alaskidansmith: I have a few comments on the keypair spec I haven't published yet, but I'm a bit confused about the use case.  If an admin creates a keypair on behalf of a user, that doesn't grant a user access unless the admin provides the private key to the user, right?19:21
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alaskidansmith: I know it's not really your spec, but I have your handle handy19:22
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dansmithalaski: I think that create case is strongest where you consider ansible19:22
dansmithalaski: which is provisioning things on behalf of someone19:22
dansmithalaski: where ansible just has public keys for people19:23
mriedemdansmith: sgordon: ML on the libvirt topic http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-May/064168.html19:24
dansmithmriedem: k19:24
alaskidansmith: okay, so ansible creates the keypair for a user, importing the public key, and then boots an instance using it?  That seems reasonable.  creating a keypair and letting nova generate the keys is less so19:24
dansmithalaski: yeah19:25
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dansmithalaski: that wasn't the intent of the original patch or spec, but there is an open bug to add that, and others chimed in and wanted it19:27
alaskidansmith: I could see splitting that, but it makes sense to me to just consider it all at once19:27
alaskiI'm in favor of it, just commenting on some formatting and grammatical stuff19:28
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dansmithI think the two things are two small to stand alone yeah :)19:28
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dansmithso, api meta question19:32
dansmithif we start creating migration records for live migrations and evacuates,19:33
dansmithwe can either filter those out of the API's migrations list, or let them be seen19:33
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dansmithyou won't be able to confirm/revert them19:33
dansmithbut there are already provisions for rejecting attempts to config a migration that can't be confirmed yet19:33
sdaguejogo: what would you recommend for unit tests on this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175603 ? Given that there are already functional tests, all I can imagine is a virtual noop unit test which is mock assert you actually called get with "/servers/%s/ips"19:33
dansmithany thoughts?19:33
sdaguewhich doesn't seem very useful19:34
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jogosdague: we have a set of client tests that make sure the correct request is created19:35
cburgess@dansmith I didn't know we had migration records in the metadata today. How does one access them?19:35
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Drop explicit suds dependency  https://review.openstack.org/18155419:35
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dansmithcburgess: not in metadata, but in the regular api19:35
sdaguesure, but they are basically noops in a case like this right? Because it's litterally passing a string without any tricky conditionals19:36
dansmithcburgess: /os-migrations19:36
sdaguehence why I didn't add a test, because it's all belts and suspenders and no pants19:36
sdaguegiven that there is actual functional testing of it19:36
jogoa unit test would be useful in the case of a refactor19:36
cburgessdansmith: OK so I guess I don't understand the root of your question. What is it that we are proposing adding?19:36
jogoto prevent regressions19:37
dansmithcburgess: right now, the only things that show up there are resize and cold migrations19:37
sdaguejogo: ... really? in this specific case?19:37
sdagueis get no longer going to take a string?19:37
jogosdague: it may  be less valuable here sure, but adding a test takes a minute19:37
dansmithcburgess: we're going to start creating records for evacuations and live migrations for tracking other things19:37
cburgessdansmith: Oh... that seems very reasonable then.19:37
dansmithcburgess: so we need to decide whether those should suddenly start being shown to the users via that same API, or filter those new types to avoid them being surprised19:38
cburgessdansmith: Is there a novaclient CLI call for that today?19:38
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cburgessdansmith: I would show them.19:38
jogowe have unit tests for everything else novaclient/tests/unit/v2/test_shell.py:    def test_unshelve(self)19:38
sdagueit's not exposed in shell19:38
alaskidansmith: I'm split on this, on the one hand they should be visible for debugging purposes, but on the other live-migrate and evacuate should be things that users don't need to know about.  So I would go with a policy on it19:38
cburgessdansmith: I don't think that should be in a different location. Maybe offer a flag that can be passed to control the display of the new records.19:38
dansmithalaski: okay so filter based on policy19:39
sdagueif it was exposed in shell, I'd understand testing the shell interaction19:39
sdaguebut it's only exposed in the API layer19:39
cburgessalaski Why shouldn't users see them?19:39
jogosdague: hmm19:39
dansmithcburgess: well, policy will let us optionally show them to users if we want them to see19:39
jogowhy only expose it on the API level?19:39
cburgessdansmith: Sure thats fine. I just don't understand why we would not show them to users.19:40
sdaguebecause it's not an incredibly useful cli command19:40
alaskicburgess: it's not inherently bad for them to see them, but they shouldn't care.  live-migrate should be seemless, evacuate is a recovery situation19:40
dansmithcburgess: rax might not want you to know they live migrated your thing?19:40
sdaguethe point of exposing it at all is it's an endpoint that may cause less calculation when polling for does a thing have an address yet19:40
alaskior evacuated :)19:40
cburgessalaski: I agree that probably aren't actionable by a user per se but if a user is wondering whats going on with their VM I think them being able to see the data is the best way for them to know.19:40
dansmithcburgess: so you don't call and freak out even though everything is working19:40
sdaguewhich isn't really a cli use case19:40
cburgessOtherwise they just blindly start smashing the reboot button.19:40
jogosdague: revised my vote19:40
dansmithcburgess: I think some ops would argue that they don't want people to see them19:41
cburgessdansmith: What freaks users out is when they have no data and can't tell whats "wrong" with their VM. So they blindly smash reboot a few times, wait a few minutes, VM isn't back up, panic, call support.19:41
dansmithcburgess: either way, we can default it on19:41
dansmithcburgess: yep19:41
dansmithcburgess: certainly sympathize with that :)19:41
dansmithcburgess: as a known reboot-smasher myself :D19:41
cburgessdansmith: OK thats fine. I think policy is fine to control who can see and do what.19:41
dansmithcool19:41
alaskiyeah, default on is good19:41
cburgessAs long as the deployer can choose I'm fine with it. We will add a bunch of help/language to our dashboard to show this clearly to users so that when they login to try and figure out why they can't access their VM its clearly shown to them. Other deployers can disable it if they are so inclined.19:42
alaskiI don't know what we'll want to do, we'll probably display it honestly.  But I can imagine situations where we need to live-migrate instances around and don't want users to get concerned about it19:44
alaskiwhich makes me look at it differently, maybe just display it but have a way to mark one as "hidden"19:45
cburgessFair enough.. but the really good users will notice because they have monitoring and I would rather allow them to see instead of having to call.19:45
cburgessGranted they will probably call about a surprise migration regardless but at least if its shown to them they can't claim we are hiding anything from the,19:45
openstackgerritBaodong (Robert) Li proposed openstack/nova: Handle port delete event  https://review.openstack.org/17939019:46
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cburgessalaski: I would be fine with an extra option to tell the API to hide a particular migration at the time its issued.19:47
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dansmithcburgess: alaski: get your own spec.19:48
cburgessdansmith: Why? its easier to bike shed yours.19:48
alaskidansmith: you really want me writing another spec?19:48
dansmithcburgess: my spec is rubber and yours is glue19:48
dansmithalaski: EOVERQUOTA19:49
alaskicburgess: I like that option.  And don't need it to happen now19:51
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dansmithalaski: I might be convinced to include such a flag in my db migration, but would rather do the api support later19:54
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alaskidansmith: that works.  and gets the hard part out of the way.  I can try to convince you on the review19:57
dansmithheh19:58
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dansmithcburgess: for reference,19:59
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dansmithcburgess: migrations are only visible to admins by default today19:59
cburgessIn that os-migrations extension?20:00
dansmithyeah20:00
cburgessOK.20:00
cburgessHaven't used that before but I suspect we will be adding support for it to our dash soon now that I know about it.20:00
dansmithalaski: I wonder if we should just make this a straightforward add and the add the hidden flag20:00
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dansmiths/the/then20:00
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alaskidansmith: yeah, with the possibility of a later hidden flag I'm cool with that20:01
dansmithokay20:01
dansmithI'd rather do the flag than fsck with policy stuff :D20:01
alaskiheh, the policy isn't that bad20:02
dansmithrequires re-learning every time20:02
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garykjogo: thanks!20:09
garykdo we scold whoever approved that :)20:10
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add migration_type to Migration object  https://review.openstack.org/18111020:21
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add migration_type and hidden to Migration database model  https://review.openstack.org/18110920:21
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Set migration_type for existing cold migrations and resizes  https://review.openstack.org/18319920:21
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: WIP: API support for migration_type  https://review.openstack.org/18320020:21
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jaypipescores: easy patch to review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179842/20:26
jaypipesSame for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182442/20:27
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openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: improve logging  https://review.openstack.org/18245220:45
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mriedemwhere can i find the version of libvirt/qemu on sles 12 w/o actually having that distro available?20:48
mriedemgoogle is failing me20:48
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mtreinishmriedem: well install sles on a cloud instance that should give you the answer...20:53
mriedemdon't have an image20:53
mriedemhttp://docs.openstack.org/image-guide/content/ch_obtaining_images.html20:54
mriedem"SUSE does not provide openSUSE or SUSE Linux Enterprise Server (SLES) images for direct download. Instead, they provide a web-based tool called SUSE Studio that you can use to build openSUSE and SLES images."20:54
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jogogaryk: always :)20:59
mriedemoh snap20:59
mriedemthanks LTC ftp320:59
mriedemdansmith: sdague: ^20:59
dansmithheh20:59
sdaguenice20:59
* mtreinish coughs20:59
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sdaguemtreinish: haven't we determined that your super power is to be forgotten :)20:59
mtreinishsdague: heh, it is. But I just told mriedem to check ftp321:00
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sdaguelike I said, super power21:00
mriedemtrue, i have to give credit to mtreinish for reminding me to check ftp321:00
mriedemthanks sles for not having any reasonably easy way to find what versions of packages are in your distro via google search21:01
mriedemat least opensuse has http://software.opensuse.org/package/qemu21:01
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mriedemhrm, oracle linux 7 only has libvirt 1.1.121:06
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mriedemnvm21:08
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: bump minimum required version to 1.2.2  https://review.openstack.org/18322021:32
mriedemin case we feel like pissing some people off ^21:32
openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed openstack/nova: Prune development.environment doc  https://review.openstack.org/18288421:33
openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed openstack/nova: Add note to doc explaining scope  https://review.openstack.org/18288121:33
openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed openstack/nova: Update docs layout  https://review.openstack.org/18322121:33
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garykmriedem: is is better than getting pissed on21:41
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mriedemgaryk: unless you're into that sort of thing21:42
garyk:)21:43
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dimsdansmith: in the test case (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181109/3/nova/tests/unit/db/test_db_api.py,cm) the "type" should be the column name right?21:51
dimsdansmith: i.e. "migration_type"21:51
dansmithdims: yep21:52
dansmithunfortunately the way filters are applied is very "tolerant"21:52
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: WIP: API support for migration_type  https://review.openstack.org/18320022:18
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add migration_type to Migration object  https://review.openstack.org/18111022:18
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add migration_type and hidden to Migration database model  https://review.openstack.org/18110922:18
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Set migration_type for existing cold migrations and resizes  https://review.openstack.org/18319922:18
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make live migration create a migration object record  https://review.openstack.org/18333122:18
dansmithalaski: includes hidden ^22:19
alaskidansmith: sweet22:19
dansmithalaski: api honors it if set, so we just need to follow this with making those apis take a hide_nasty_from_user=True22:20
dansmithand when I say we, I mean you :)22:20
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alaskidansmith: heh.  I can handle that22:20
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dansmithso now I just have to do the evac part and we should be fairly close22:21
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openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/nova: Compute: detach volume prior to deleting instance  https://review.openstack.org/18334122:43
openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed openstack/nova: Update docs layout  https://review.openstack.org/18322122:44
openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed openstack/nova: Prune development.environment doc  https://review.openstack.org/18288422:44
openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed openstack/nova: Remove jenkins, launchpad and gerrit docs  https://review.openstack.org/18334222:44
openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed openstack/nova: Make blueprints doc a reference for nova blueprints  https://review.openstack.org/18334322:44
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cburgessHas anyone figured out what the best prepaid voice/data SIM is for VC yet?23:02
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dansmithcburgess: I won't know that until after we get there23:04
dansmithcburgess: but I ordered a similicious23:04
dansmiththey specialize in people coming to canada for short trips23:04
dansmithand they're on the rogers network23:04
dansmithand they will have the thing waiting at your hotel, activated the day before you arrive23:05
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clarkbI am on tmobile23:05
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clarkbwhich should just work in vancouver (has been tested in victoria)23:06
ociuhandujogo: Hyper-V CI is back online, we apologize for the false noise. We will make sure whenever we see any issue in the CI, the first thing we’ll do it stop reporting upstream until the situation is fixed. We’re currently identifying the patchsets with false results and triggering rechecks for them on our CI.23:08
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cburgessdansmith: I shall look into that. Something waiting in my hotel sounds AWESOME!23:10
dansmithif you plan ahead like I do, they will send it to your US address for free23:10
dansmithbut you clearly, uh, don't :)23:10
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cburgessWow.. rub it in why don't you.23:10
dansmithhehe23:10
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jogoociuhandu: thank you!23:24
ociuhandujogo: i thank you for the understanding :)23:24
jogoociuhandu: I think we have all been there23:25
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: API support for migration_type  https://review.openstack.org/18320023:40
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make live migration create a migration object record  https://review.openstack.org/18333123:40
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add migration_type to Migration object  https://review.openstack.org/18111023:40
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Set migration_type for existing cold migrations and resizes  https://review.openstack.org/18319923:40
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Allow querying for migrations by source_compute only  https://review.openstack.org/18335323:40
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make evacuate leave a record for the source compute host to process  https://review.openstack.org/18335423:40
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GlaupreCan someone highlight my on SR-IOV support?23:45
GlaupreI have question regarding the PFs23:45
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