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| mriedem | BobBall: is xenproject ci going wonky again? | 00:26 |
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| mriedem | BobBall: actually i'm seeing this: | 00:27 |
| mriedem | http://logs.openstack.xenproject.org/20/183220/1/check/dsvm-tempest-xen/dfbf491/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz | 00:27 |
| mriedem | http://paste.openstack.org/show/223268/ | 00:27 |
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| mriedem | libvirtError: internal error: libxenlight failed to restore domain 'instance-0000001b' | 00:28 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: ^ | 00:28 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: also, the spec was approved for this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69047/ | 00:28 |
| rms_13 | Experts, running onto an issue where changing the MTU of the interface on one of the compute and than restarting nova-compute fails; I think it is timing out on "MessagingTimeout: Timed out waiting for a reply to message " | 00:28 |
| rms_13 | I could see that amqp server on the controller has accepted the connection but than I believe something went wrong on the send side | 00:29 |
| rms_13 | Question is: Do I need a restart of an rabbitmq-server if I am changing the MTU of the physical interface ? | 00:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: improve logging https://review.openstack.org/182452 | 00:34 |
| mriedem | garyk: you're going to love that ^ | 00:38 |
| garyk | mriedem: :) | 00:39 |
| garyk | mriedem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsbgwNe4Rv4 | 00:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: improve logging https://review.openstack.org/182452 | 00:43 |
| garyk | mriedem: i have gone with the instance name suggestlon like you said. | 00:44 |
| garyk | hopefully jay will be open to the change | 00:44 |
| mriedem | garyk: so just adding the instance= kwarg and adding _LW right? | 00:44 |
| mriedem | +w | 00:45 |
| mriedem | oops | 00:45 |
| mriedem | +2 | 00:45 |
| garyk | yup, thanks | 00:45 |
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| dansmith | hmm, seems like grenade is failing | 01:13 |
| mriedem | dansmith: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182716/ | 01:14 |
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| dansmith | is that the fix? | 01:14 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: no, but it's a fix | 01:29 |
| mriedem | dansmith: link to the grenade failure? | 01:29 |
| dansmith | it's failing on getting pip or something | 01:29 |
| mriedem | http://logs.openstack.org/47/167447/7/gate/gate-grenade-dsvm/fe73dd5/console.html ? | 01:29 |
| mriedem | fatal: read error: Connection reset by peer | 01:29 |
| mriedem | yeah i think that's been spotty all day | 01:30 |
| mriedem | jogo: ^? | 01:30 |
| dansmith | http://logs.openstack.org/10/181110/5/check/check-grenade-dsvm-partial-ncpu/a474398/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz#_2015-05-15_00_09_39_148 | 01:30 |
| dansmith | it seems to only affect the grenade jobs | 01:30 |
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| dansmith | like, a bunch of mine in a row only fail grenade, both grenade jobs, and like that | 01:30 |
| dansmith | that's actually getting a 503 from something | 01:30 |
| mriedem | http://goo.gl/Gxp1OJ | 01:31 |
| mriedem | shows it spike and drop off so must be fixed | 01:31 |
| mriedem | but according to logstash it's not just grenade jobs | 01:31 |
| dansmith | I just hit it a bit ago | 01:31 |
| dansmith | that's different from my thing right? | 01:31 |
| jogo | I wonder what caused it | 01:32 |
| jogo | I think infra was looking into it all day | 01:32 |
| mriedem | oh shit nevermind | 01:32 |
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| mriedem | i was looking at the wrong logs | 01:33 |
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| dansmith | no hits in logstash, or I suck at logstash (which I do) | 01:33 |
| dansmith | http://logstash.openstack.org/#eyJzZWFyY2giOiJtZXNzYWdlOlwiU3ludGF4RXJyb3I6XCIgQU5EIGZpbGVuYW1lOlwibG9ncy9ncmVuYWRlLnNoLnR4dC5nelwiIiwiZmllbGRzIjpbXSwib2Zmc2V0IjowLCJ0aW1lZnJhbWUiOiI2MDQ4MDAiLCJncmFwaG1vZGUiOiJjb3VudCIsInRpbWUiOnsidXNlcl9pbnRlcnZhbCI6MH0sInN0YW1wIjoxNDMxNjUzNjUzMDE4LCJtb2RlIjoiIiwiYW5hbHl6ZV9maWVsZCI6IiJ9 | 01:34 |
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| dansmith | ah | 01:34 |
| dansmith | http://logstash.openstack.org/#eyJzZWFyY2giOiJtZXNzYWdlOlwiU3ludGF4RXJyb3I6XCIgQU5EIGZpbGVuYW1lOlwibG9ncy9ncmVuYWRlLnNoLnR4dFwiIiwiZmllbGRzIjpbXSwib2Zmc2V0IjowLCJ0aW1lZnJhbWUiOiI2MDQ4MDAiLCJncmFwaG1vZGUiOiJjb3VudCIsInRpbWUiOnsidXNlcl9pbnRlcnZhbCI6MH0sInN0YW1wIjoxNDMxNjUzNjc3Nzg2LCJtb2RlIjoiIiwiYW5hbHl6ZV9maWVsZCI6IiJ9 | 01:34 |
| dansmith | and not just on my changes, so that's good | 01:35 |
| mriedem | http://goo.gl/pJJRhX | 01:36 |
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| dansmith | yeah, same set as my query above | 01:36 |
| mriedem | asking in infra | 01:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: API support for migration_type https://review.openstack.org/183200 | 01:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make live migration create a migration object record https://review.openstack.org/183331 | 01:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add migration_type to Migration object https://review.openstack.org/181110 | 01:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add migration_type and hidden to Migration database model https://review.openstack.org/181109 | 01:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Allow querying for migrations by source_compute only https://review.openstack.org/183353 | 01:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make evacuate leave a record for the source compute host to process https://review.openstack.org/183354 | 01:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Set migration_type for existing cold migrations and resizes https://review.openstack.org/183199 | 01:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yongli He proposed openstack/nova-specs: test cases for third party CI https://review.openstack.org/141270 | 01:50 |
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| mriedem | melwitt: this looks like a novaclient bug report right? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1454369 | 01:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1454369 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova needs to move to using the 'volume' service type" [Low,Confirmed] | 01:53 |
| mriedem | the volumev2 gorp is in novaclient | 01:53 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: I'm not entirely sure what is going on there, but the volumev2 is something devstack presents similar to the computev21 stuff. novaclient already defaults to the "volume" endpoint. either way, sounds like a client thing | 01:58 |
| mriedem | ok | 02:00 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: devstack has "volume" as the v1 url, and he disabled v1, so it fails | 02:00 |
| melwitt | is what I'm guessing | 02:00 |
| mriedem | o | 02:01 |
| mriedem | i'll admit the service catalog stuff involved here is over my head | 02:01 |
| mriedem | bknudson says that it changes all the time | 02:02 |
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| melwitt | it's devstack stuff really. it makes an endpoint for each version of every service as different names to "help you" and it causes a lot of confusion | 02:02 |
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| mriedem | right, so i thought there was a push at one point to stop helping us in devstack | 02:06 |
| mriedem | and just use version discovery | 02:06 |
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| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145613/ | 02:10 |
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| mriedem | am i remembering correctly that our novaclient volume CLI talks to cinder api directly rather than going through nova volume apis which talks to cinderclient? | 02:10 |
| mriedem | melwitt: ^? | 02:10 |
| mriedem | b/c if cinderclient has version discovery per https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145613/, then nova api talking to cinderclient wouldn't have to worry about this as long as novaclient was talking to nova api | 02:11 |
| melwitt | version discovery would be ideal. I didn't know if any progress has been done yet for that, other than the link you just showed | 02:11 |
| melwitt | and yes, novaclient does talk directly to cinder api | 02:11 |
| mriedem | oh barf | 02:12 |
| mriedem | so...how hard would it be to change novaclient to talk to nova apis for volume thingies? | 02:12 |
| mriedem | or is there some ugly reason we can't just do that? | 02:12 |
| melwitt | because as I found out, the volumes proxy in nova doesn't have the same features, volume types and snapshots I think | 02:13 |
| mriedem | so novaclient is basically duplicating cinderclient | 02:13 |
| mriedem | double barf | 02:13 |
| melwitt | I tried to do it, but it would require augmenting our volumes proxy first | 02:13 |
| melwitt | yeah :( | 02:13 |
| mriedem | can we....deprecate volume CLIs in novaclient and say using cinderclient? | 02:13 |
| mriedem | shit, we don't create subnets in neutron via novaclient | 02:14 |
| melwitt | yeah, I'm not sure how this one was allowed as an okay thing :P | 02:14 |
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| mriedem | let's blame Vek | 02:14 |
| melwitt | heh | 02:15 |
| mriedem | OR | 02:16 |
| mriedem | omg | 02:16 |
| mriedem | let's just import cinderclient into novaclient like an sdk and proxy the shell calls to cinderclient, that would be terribad | 02:17 |
| mriedem | effectively making a mutated version of openstackclient | 02:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Yongli He proposed openstack/nova-specs: test cases for third party CI https://review.openstack.org/141270 | 02:18 |
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| melwitt | yeah, I was thinking similar | 02:19 |
| melwitt | the monster other openstackclient | 02:19 |
| melwitt | novaclient is my favorite client. don't want to use anything else | 02:20 |
| mriedem | it does images, volumes, the works | 02:20 |
| melwitt | haha the works, yes! | 02:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed openstack/nova: Update docs layout https://review.openstack.org/183221 | 02:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed openstack/nova: Prune development.environment doc https://review.openstack.org/182884 | 02:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed openstack/nova: Remove jenkins, launchpad and gerrit docs https://review.openstack.org/183342 | 02:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed openstack/nova: Make blueprints doc a reference for nova blueprints https://review.openstack.org/183343 | 02:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Recover instance's attributes host and node when evacuate failure https://review.openstack.org/143372 | 02:29 |
| mriedem | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-May/064210.html | 02:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | zhangtralon proposed openstack/nova: Ironic:check the configuration item api_max_retries https://review.openstack.org/123319 | 03:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Friesen proposed openstack/nova: Fix race between resource audit and cpu pinning https://review.openstack.org/182766 | 04:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Fei Long Wang proposed openstack/nova: Fix nova backup for volume-backed instance https://review.openstack.org/164494 | 04:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yongli He proposed openstack/nova: resource tracker style pci resource management https://review.openstack.org/131321 | 06:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Roman Bogorodskiy proposed openstack/nova-specs: User-controlled SR-IOV ports allocation https://review.openstack.org/182242 | 06:59 |
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| gilliard | Morning Nova! | 07:26 |
| gilliard | Friday is it? | 07:26 |
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| eliqiao1 | gilliard: yeah :) | 07:27 |
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| gilllliard | Hello qli | 07:28 |
| gilllliard | err... Hello eliqiao1 | 07:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Qin Zhao proposed openstack/nova: Make resize api of compute manager to send flavor object https://review.openstack.org/161860 | 08:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rui Chen proposed openstack/nova: CreateVM supports subnet specified https://review.openstack.org/182969 | 08:39 |
| openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Recover instance's attributes host and node when evacuate failure https://review.openstack.org/143372 | 08:42 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: with the spec merged, I approved the blueprint, and so removed the requested -2 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/db2-database | 08:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: any chance you could clear out the whiteboard, so its super clear what patches are left to review please? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/db2-database | 08:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | alaski: I couldn't find a blueprint for this one, so I created it, let me know if thats correct: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/persist-request-spec | 08:56 |
| BobBall | mriedem: Interesting question... It's not hitting a large number of tests, but could easily be a libvirt+xen specific issue; I'll ask anthonyper if he's got any thoughts on it. | 08:57 |
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| BobBall | mriedem: It's quite possible that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182680/ is needed to track this one | 08:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Consolidate the APIs for getting consoles https://review.openstack.org/148509 | 09:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | danpb: so bumping the min_version of libvirt and qemu, whats your take on that? | 09:37 |
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| danpb | johnthetubaguy: best if i reply on list, as i think this is quite a complicated issue really | 09:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | danpb: OK | 09:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | danpb: we would drop quite a lot of (mostly untested) code right, if we bump the min_version? | 09:45 |
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| eliqiao1 | johnthetubaguy: hi GM john, can you help to review again https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177671/ ? it's quiet similar with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165838 | 09:45 |
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| johnthetubaguy | eliqiao1: agreed they are similar, would it be possible to work with sahid in implementing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165838 ? they seem to be both hitting on the same issue, its just https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165838 was proposed first, and I think that was the closest to getting merged when I last looked at it | 09:53 |
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| johnthetubaguy | eliqiao1: I fear I will not be able to review your new revision before the summit at this point, there are many specs I still need to get to for the first time, who have been waiting a little while now | 09:53 |
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| pece | if I cycle power (off/on) on virtual instance is nova-scheduler involved then? (particulary: scheduler filters)? | 09:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Feng Xi Yan proposed openstack/nova: Make VMWare Driver support third party distributed switch. https://review.openstack.org/152006 | 09:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | pece: no its a direct message to the compute node | 09:54 |
| eliqiao1 | johnthetubaguy: thanks, I am agree to work them together , I don't notice it before you point it to me.. i'ts little different, I don't want to deprate memcache at this moment.. | 09:54 |
| eliqiao1 | johnthetubaguy: sure, thanks. | 09:55 |
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| johnthetubaguy | eliqiao1: yeah, I think we need to get you both together, agree a direction, and work out how to split up the work | 09:55 |
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| johnthetubaguy | eliqiao1: maybe you could start an ML thread about the two specs, and agree some common goals, etc? | 09:56 |
| eliqiao1 | johnthetubaguy: thanks.. but I don't think there will be too much work to do.. I will put my comments on that spec too. | 09:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | eliqiao1: awesome, that works | 09:56 |
| eliqiao1 | johnthetubaguy: okay , thanks for the advice , I will do that :) | 09:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | eliqiao1: well, if we can get agreement on the spec, that might be easier than going to the ML | 09:57 |
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| eliqiao1 | johnthetubaguy: okay , I will put my comments on #165838 first .. | 09:57 |
| pece | johnthetubaguy: thx... so filters are called only when instance is created and provisioned, right? I'm looking for simple way to control if user can start particular instance. | 09:58 |
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| johnthetubaguy | eliqiao1: thank you, do catch me after the summit if there is no agreement, and I can try get folks together | 09:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | pece: there is a lock instance call that means an admin stops a user doing any actions on an instance? | 09:58 |
| eliqiao1 | johnthetubaguy: nice, thanks | 09:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | pece: the scheduler is basically involved whenever you need to pick a host, resize, migrate, live-migrate, create, etc | 10:00 |
| pece | johnthetubaguy: hmm, is this call available in Juno? Is it an API call? | 10:00 |
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| johnthetubaguy | pece: unsure to be honest, I think the admin lock was quite recent | 10:00 |
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| pece | johnthetubaguy: thank you, I'll look up on admin lock | 10:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | pece: seems like the general lock is there in juno: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/juno/nova/api/openstack/compute/contrib/admin_actions.py#L209 | 10:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | pece: I think with the policy you could just restrict lock and unlock to some group of "administrators" although I don't think thats the default policy, hope that helps | 10:03 |
| tdurakov | hi, is it possible in nova to resize down server? | 10:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | pece: looks like juno has everything you need: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/juno/nova/compute/api.py#L2866 | 10:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: it depends on what driver you use | 10:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: I think only XenAPI supports that at this point | 10:04 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: I wouldn't recommend trying to implement resize down though, its really not a very reliable operation, because of whats required with changing the size of the root file system | 10:05 |
| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: I've noticed there is no notification for op, when driver doesn't allow to resize down server:http://paste.openstack.org/show/223636/ http://paste.openstack.org/show/223635/ | 10:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: now if you don't change the size of the root disk, I suspect all drivers support that | 10:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: notifications are totally untested and largely unmaintained at this point, although I hope to fix that | 10:06 |
| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy, ok thx. I'll file bug for that and try to fix it | 10:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: that would be great, appreciated | 10:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: I have a summit session planned to try and work out the best way forward for "error handling" | 10:08 |
| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy, could you provide sessio results then?:) It would be interesting for me | 10:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: I hope to write everything up, starting to do something here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178635/ | 10:09 |
| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: as i understood in my case such error couldn't be held by design | 10:11 |
| tdurakov | there is cast rpc call | 10:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: so, you could have a policy for resize down of a disk, and enforce that in the API, so the API can return an error in that case? | 10:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: we could add a call to a compute node to check if resize is possible, we do something like that for live-migrate | 10:14 |
| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: good point, let me check it:) | 10:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: it might be worth a nova-spec to get agreement on the approach, but I would try fix the bug first, as that should be less paperwork | 10:15 |
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| tdurakov | btw, there is more confusing point: http://paste.openstack.org/show/223659/ | 10:15 |
| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: compute logs give me the same picture at that moment, op has illusion that everything is OK | 10:17 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: yeah, thats a client issue I think, the API will show the instance as Active rather than Resize_confirm, and as such, the resize didn't happen | 10:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: its an issue with have with the API right now, we have plans for a "tasks" API, where it would be much clearer that your API request "failed", but the instance is not in an "Error" state | 10:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: if you look at instance_actions, it should list the failed resize, i think | 10:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: a pyhton-novaclient bug + patch around this would be awesome | 10:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | (and docs I guess) | 10:19 |
| tdurakov | 2 bug: 1 in nova, 1 in client and some fix for now | 10:20 |
| openstack | bug 1 in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 - Assigned to MFauzilkamil Zainuddin (apogee) | 10:20 |
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| lpetrut | Hi guys, is there something wrong w/ the Xen CI? It keeps failing but I can't access the logs | 10:28 |
| BobBall | lpetrut: Example change? | 10:28 |
| lpetrut | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127159/ | 10:28 |
| BobBall | lpetrut: There was a failure last night that also hit the -infra CI with git.openstack.org failing to clone | 10:28 |
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| BobBall | Yup - times match | 10:29 |
| lpetrut | great, thanks! Is it fixed at the moment? I was thinking about a recheck | 10:29 |
| lpetrut | also, it would be great if the logs would be accessible | 10:29 |
| BobBall | Yes, please do a "recheck xen" and it'll requeue it | 10:30 |
| BobBall | (or at least it should! Would be added to http://zuul.openstack.xenproject.org/) | 10:31 |
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| BobBall | lpetrut: Actually it hopefully wouldn't requeue it... Another change we made yesterday is to ignore changes that can't affect libvirt+xen! I've manually requeued. | 10:39 |
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| sdague | tonyb: if you push a patch up to flip on utopic and vivid for devstack, I'll push it through. | 10:46 |
| sdague | per your email, them not being listed is mostly, no one yet cared | 10:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/nova: Preserve usage and reservations on quota deletion https://review.openstack.org/163423 | 10:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Remove unused variables from images api https://review.openstack.org/183475 | 11:07 |
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| danpb | who owns XenProject CI ? it no longer tells you what the syntax is for a xen-only recheck when it fails, and both the wiki links it provides are wrong | 11:09 |
| BobBall | The links are wrong? Sorry - I didn't check them... Will correct that. | 11:10 |
| danpb | BobBall: in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems/ there is a bogus trailing slash that needs removing | 11:10 |
| BobBall | d'oh! | 11:10 |
| danpb | BobBall: and https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GerritJenkinsGit#Test_Failures has been deleted :-( | 11:10 |
| * BobBall was just using the standard template from os-ext-testing :/ | 11:11 | |
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| BobBall | Will update | 11:11 |
| danpb | BobBall: does "xenserver: recheck" still work as the right syntax ? | 11:11 |
| BobBall | xenserver: recheck is the XenServer ci, which is (joy of joys) different to the xenproject CI (which checks libvirt+xen) | 11:12 |
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| BobBall | Syntax for XenProject ci recheck is currently "recheck xen", again just following the conventions from the default job defintions but I should have updated that to xen: recheck and will do that at the same time. | 11:13 |
| danpb | ah, ok, i should have noticed they were different :-) | 11:13 |
| danpb | could you make the XenProject CI message included "recheck xen" in its text | 11:13 |
| BobBall | I'm a bit surprised actually - I was certain I'd added it to the third party CI systems but it's not on the wiki page! | 11:14 |
| BobBall | Yup | 11:14 |
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| kashyap | danpb: Thanks for that detailed response on that min libvirt versions thread. Specifically, I appreciate the ratioanle behind why one need to be conservative w.r.t hypervisor platform while it's okay to move relatively faster w/ the higher layer (OpenStack). | 11:27 |
| BobBall | danpb: I hope that's fixed now... :) | 11:35 |
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| gilllliard | Nova API meeing in 22 minutes? | 11:38 |
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| danpb | BobBall: cool, thanks for taking care of it so quickly | 11:43 |
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| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: do you think we need spec for new rpc method that checks instance could be resized? | 11:48 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: its borderline. its copying the pattern used for live-migrate (see can_live_migrate calls), as a bug fix, I think that could be OK | 11:52 |
| tdurakov | ok, then I'll code patch first | 11:53 |
| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: thank you | 11:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: check min required qemu/libvirt versions on s390/s390x https://review.openstack.org/183486 | 11:55 |
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| gilllliard | Nova API meeting in #openstack-meeting in 2 minutes. alex_xu oomichi eliqiao1 johnthetubaguy sdague | 11:58 |
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| sdague | gilllliard: thanks for the reminder, I'm dealing with packing / laundry for the trip right now, so won't be able to be there | 11:59 |
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| gilllliard | it'll be a quiet on for sure :) | 11:59 |
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| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: I attempted to capture your thoughts on mentoring and things in this wiki, added it to the agenda for the next nova meeting: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Mentoring | 12:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: I think some of these points were your ideas as well, possibly bent out of shape: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Mentoring | 12:05 |
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| gilllliard | ^^ I like this | 12:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | gilliard_en_rout: cool, feel free to send ideas and enhancements (via wiki edits) etc | 12:10 |
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| alaski | johnthetubaguy: thanks for creating the bp. I have a bad habit of not creating them until the spec is approved (and then forgetting) | 12:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | alaski_eto: no worries | 12:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: use instance UUID with exception InstanceNotFound https://review.openstack.org/183492 | 12:17 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: ok, I'll try to take a look today. Warning though, I'm sort of in odds and ends wrap up mode today as I leave tomorrow afternoon, and a bunch of house tasks have to be accomplished before I get on a plane | 12:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: use instance UUID with exception InstanceNotFound https://review.openstack.org/183492 | 12:47 |
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| baoli_ | garyk: ping, RE: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183061/ | 12:50 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: totally, similar here really | 12:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Create Nova Scheduler Num Instances Weighter https://review.openstack.org/130526 | 13:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: mark NUMA huge page mappings as shared access https://review.openstack.org/176360 | 13:23 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Remove policy check security_group_default_rule https://review.openstack.org/181467 | 13:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Don't update RT status when set instance to ERROR https://review.openstack.org/181426 | 13:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Petrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: Nova serial console access support https://review.openstack.org/145004 | 13:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Petrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: restart serial console workers after instance power change https://review.openstack.org/163080 | 13:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Add missing @require_context https://review.openstack.org/176454 | 13:55 |
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| mriedem | danpb: so....i'm getting the feeling you don't want to bump the min version of libvirt? :P | 13:59 |
| danpb | lol | 14:00 |
| danpb | well we can bump it a little bit given some of the eol ubuntu versions | 14:01 |
| danpb | or rather add a deprecation warning to notify users of our intent to bump it in Mxx | 14:01 |
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| mriedem | yeah, i was thinking of the same last night, i.e. in init_host check if the version < 0.10.2 and warn if so, then bump to that in M | 14:02 |
| danpb | shame we didn't think of this a few weeks back when we could have warned in kilo | 14:02 |
| mriedem | and g-r has libvirt-python >= 1.2.5 so we could add that to test-requirements.txt to remove that workaround in host.py | 14:02 |
| * danpb doesn't really understand how g-r maps / relates to project local requirements/text-requirements | 14:02 | |
| andreykurilin1 | jogo: hi! can you re-review my change( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169292/ ) based on process of porting nova to python 3? | 14:03 |
| mriedem | i know i removed libvirt-python from test-requirements.txt but that was because it was being used in tests rather than fakelibvirt, i don't think that's an issue anymore since the tests explicitly import fakelibvirt now | 14:03 |
| mriedem | danpb: since nova is registered with g-r, when we add libvirt-python to nova it has to be the same version as in g-r | 14:03 |
| danpb | i thought we removed it from test-requirements.txt so that people testing vmware didn't need to have libvirt-pytho ninstalled | 14:03 |
| mriedem | and if we update the version in g-r that will sync to nova | 14:03 |
| mriedem | danpb: no, it was b/c it was corrupting the tests if it was installed | 14:04 |
| danpb | the fact that tests use fakelibvirt was just the enabler to made it possible to remove it | 14:04 |
| mriedem | b/c of a conditional import in the tests | 14:04 |
| mriedem | yeah, but test-requirements is now also kind of a place to add optional dependencies based on which driver you're using, e.g. we moved oslo.vmware to test-requirements | 14:04 |
| mriedem | b/c you only need that if you're using the vmware driver | 14:04 |
| danpb | ok | 14:04 |
| mriedem | so, i'll add the warning for < 0.10.2 and the move to that in M, | 14:05 |
| mriedem | and add libvirt-python to test-requirements to remove that workaround in host.py | 14:05 |
| danpb | ok | 14:06 |
| danpb | so this would drop support for debian wheezy - not a problem as it has wheezy-backports available | 14:07 |
| danpb | and suse 12.2, which i think is ok as there's several newer suse versions avail | 14:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Add common function for v2.1 API flavor_get. https://review.openstack.org/136568 | 14:09 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Add common function for v2 API flavor_get. https://review.openstack.org/136567 | 14:09 |
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| mriedem | kashyap: btw, we already have libvirt 1.2.2 in the gate in the trusty nodes | 14:10 |
| mriedem | that's why i went with that version as the min | 14:10 |
| kashyap | mriedem: Oh, yeah now that you mention, I remember seeing this somewhere :-) | 14:10 |
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| mriedem | alex_xu: if i change my fixed-ips microversion change to depend on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176177/ does that also mean i'm signing up to merge the v2 and v3 fixed ips api samples tests in my change? | 14:16 |
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| alex_xu | mriedem: emm....yes, the merge sample tests work didn't process the microversion case. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176177/ add related code. | 14:18 |
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| mriedem | alex_xu: i guess it's unclear to me why i need to depend on that change? | 14:19 |
| mriedem | the tests are running in my change as far as i can tell | 14:19 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: yes, you are right, but _api_version = 'v3' looks wrong, we should use 'v2.1' | 14:20 |
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| alex_xu | mriedem: but let me check again, I'm ok without dependence | 14:21 |
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| alex_xu | mriedem: If your patch merge first, let's change it again if https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176177/ get merged | 14:22 |
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| garyk | baoli_: hi, i'll look at it now | 14:25 |
| garyk | baoli_: ok. i understand. i think that you need to rebase the unit tests are broken. | 14:26 |
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| mriedem | alex_xu: can you drop your -1 then? | 14:30 |
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| alex_xu | mriedem: yea | 14:31 |
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| alex_xu | mriedem: it's done, sorry for that | 14:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Baodong (Robert) Li proposed openstack/nova: Split instance event/tag correctly https://review.openstack.org/183061 | 14:35 |
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| garyk | baoli_: thanks! | 14:55 |
| baoli_ | garyk, thanks for your review | 14:56 |
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| garyk | mriedem: any idea how i recheck xen? | 14:58 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: thanks | 14:59 |
| danpb | garyk: (12:13:04) BobBall: Syntax for XenProject ci recheck is currently "recheck xen", again just following the conventions from the default job defintions but I should have updated that to xen: recheck and will do that at the same time. | 14:59 |
| mriedem | garyk: i think ti's busted anyway | 14:59 |
| danpb | assuming you mean the XenProject rather than XenServer | 14:59 |
| mriedem | i mentioned that late last night to BobBall | 15:00 |
| garyk | danpb: yes, correct the xen ci | 15:00 |
| mriedem | i think i'm going to just disable it | 15:00 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: np :), another choice is we didn't pass 'reserved' into subs parameter, just hard-code resevered is false in sample template file. | 15:01 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: I want to verify that, but I need rebuild tox env, it's pretty slow.... | 15:01 |
| mriedem | garyk: this is what i've been seeing when xenproject ci fails | 15:01 |
| mriedem | 2015-05-14 22:03:33.163 14933 TRACE nova.compute.manager [instance: 095ab848-b7d0-4785-b78d-9e6976c80fbb] | 15:01 |
| BobBall | garyk: Which change? Just want to check the time it ran to confirm that it was before I fixed it today :) | 15:01 |
| mriedem | oops | 15:02 |
| mriedem | libvirtError: internal error: libxenlight failed to restore domain 'instance-0000001b' | 15:02 |
| mriedem | BobBall: http://logs.openstack.xenproject.org/20/183220/1/check/dsvm-tempest-xen/dfbf491/ | 15:02 |
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| garyk | BobBall: it was one i rebase yesterday morning - patches after that are ok. i did a recheck. will let you know if it still happens | 15:02 |
| danpb | mriedem: XenProject CI is mostly working for me - i rechecked on earlier and it succeeded | 15:02 |
| BobBall | mriedem: That libvirt error is an interesting one and we're trying to track it down; it needs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183461/ so we can collect the Xen logs | 15:02 |
| BobBall | danpb: I had to manually trigger yours because I'd screwed up the syntax :/ | 15:03 |
| danpb | thanks :-) | 15:03 |
| BobBall | mriedem: Thought to be an issue with nics (libxl: error: libxl_create.c:1226:domcreate_attach_vtpms: unable to add nic devices) - but we haven't figured it out yet | 15:03 |
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| BobBall | garyk: http://zuul.openstack.xenproject.org/ your recheck did indeed get queued! :) | 15:04 |
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| garyk | BobBall: tx | 15:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Remove redundant check for version of `requests` https://review.openstack.org/183559 | 15:07 |
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| alex_xu | mriedem: "reserved": %(reserved)s works for me. api sample test support non-quoted replacement https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/functional/api_samples_test_base.py#L47 | 15:17 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: ok, i'll try that in a bit | 15:18 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: ok, thanks | 15:18 |
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| alex_xu | mriedem: then I think I can +1, after rechecking no more question from me | 15:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris St. Pierre proposed openstack/nova: Allow blacklisting os-api extensions https://review.openstack.org/160986 | 15:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: deprecate libvirt version usage < 0.10.2 https://review.openstack.org/183220 | 15:53 |
| mriedem | danpb: ^ | 15:54 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: I do wonder if we can deprecate more on top of that as well… | 16:05 |
| cfriesen | so wrt the summit...are there any speakers who are so good that it doesn't matter what they're talking about? | 16:06 |
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| mriedem | cfriesen: that would be me | 16:12 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: such as? | 16:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: drafting an ML post | 16:12 |
| cfriesen | mriedem: :) | 16:12 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: thinking about scheduling the higher version for deprecating after N maybe? | 16:13 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: as in, 0.10.2 is M and 1.2.2 is N? | 16:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, something like that | 16:14 |
| mriedem | idk, i'd ask danpb | 16:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: really I want us to warn on every version thats non tested somehow | 16:15 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: we can do that separately today | 16:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, the 1.2.2 might need to be 1.1.x or something given Fedora | 16:15 |
| mriedem | i.e. we could put a warning in there that if you're on libvirt < 1.2.2 it's not tested in the gate | 16:15 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, and the other way too really, so its != 1.2.2 although thats a little too harsh maybe | 16:16 |
| mriedem | too strict | 16:16 |
| mriedem | imo | 16:16 |
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| mriedem | we do have a fc21 job on the experimental queue that runs 1.2.9 | 16:16 |
| mriedem | so we do have a way of validating some things there | 16:16 |
| mriedem | and actually, it sounds like ubuntu trusty LTS cloud archive has a much newer libvirt we could be testing against too | 16:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, I kinda want to encourage an actually list, with third party testing, etc | 16:17 |
| mriedem | "The Ubuntu Cloud Archive for Kilo includes updates for Nova, Glance, Keystone, Neutron, Cinder, Horizon, Swift, Ceilometer and Heat; Ceph (0.94.1), RabbitMQ (3.4.2), QEMU (2.2), libvirt (1.2.12) and Open vSwitch (2.3.1) back-ports from 15.04 have also been provided." | 16:17 |
| mriedem | anyway, lunch for real this time | 16:18 |
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| danpb | it think it is a bit over the top to warn on every single version that doesn't match int he gate | 16:20 |
| danpb | that means essentially every user who isn't running the matching version of ubuntu is going to have their logs spammed with messages | 16:20 |
| danpb | with the result that there will be an endless stream of bug reports about the warnings, and users will learn to ignore them | 16:20 |
| danpb | so when we need to warn about something important they then won't notice | 16:20 |
| danpb | i think the release notes are the appropriate place to call out the distinction between what is enabled in the code, vs what is formally CI tested | 16:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | danpb: or people start to get their system tested against master, so they are included in the "tested" list | 16:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | danpb: yeah, having a good way to do that in the release notes / docs is also important, we just use log messages because its in the code I guess | 16:23 |
| danpb | if people get their nova from a vendor then its reasonable that they can assume the vendor has run the tempest CI | 16:23 |
| danpb | if people get their nova from upstream directly, then the release notes can tell them to run tempest against their deployment platform to validate it | 16:24 |
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| danpb | either way those people aren't going to want their logs polluted with warnings every time nova starts | 16:24 |
| * danpb wonders if vmware/xenserver do any version checking | 16:25 | |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, a better alternative to logs probably makes sense, it just they are "easy" | 16:25 |
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| superdan | there is a vmware version check, IIRC | 16:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | danpb: xenserver probably doesn't I should add that | 16:26 |
| danpb | garyk: does vmware driver check or enforce any vcenter version number ? | 16:26 |
| * danpb also wonders if xenserver/vmware nova drivers have ever dropped support for older versions of the hypervisor | 16:27 | |
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| superdan | vmware did | 16:29 |
| superdan | dropped ESX4 and then I think ESX entirely, IIRC | 16:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | superdan: +1 thats what I was remembering as well | 16:31 |
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| superdan | johnthetubaguy: did you see the discussion yesterday about exposing live migrations and evacuations to the user? | 16:35 |
| baoli_ | superdan: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183061/2/nova/compute/manager.py, about your comments, is the change at line 1705 in the dependent patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183131/3/nova/tests/unit/compute/test_compute_mgr.py, good enough? | 16:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | superdan: I did not | 16:35 |
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| superdan | baoli_: you should push that back into the previous patch and then I'll be okay yeah | 16:35 |
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| superdan | johnthetubaguy: so with my robustify-evacuate set, we will get migration records for live migrations and evacuations | 16:36 |
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| superdan | johnthetubaguy: the question is whether to show them to the user, because right now they don't see those things | 16:36 |
| baoli_ | superdan, sure, I can do that | 16:36 |
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| superdan | johnthetubaguy: there were two views, one op wanting users to always see them, and one op wanting them to be still hidden | 16:36 |
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| superdan | johnthetubaguy: so the plan is to introduce a hidden boolean on the migration record, and let admins provide hidden=True to live migrations and evacuations if they want, and the API will just filter them out if you don't have can-see-admin-migrations=True in your policy | 16:37 |
| superdan | johnthetubaguy: so I need to amend my spec to say that I'm adding the field, and changing the API thusly, but that the actual is-hidden flags being added to the migration apis is a separate deal | 16:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | superdan: oh I had patches for live-migrate migrate records I was going to push, but they are a complete hack, thats totally worth it | 16:39 |
| superdan | johnthetubaguy: oh, well, mine are up | 16:39 |
| superdan | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/robustify-evacuate,n,z | 16:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | superdan: sweet, thats all good, I should review that | 16:39 |
| superdan | johnthetubaguy: so we can hold on the api one (which is last) until I update the spec | 16:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | superdan: gotcha, I think that makes sense | 16:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | superdan: so hidden = True, I guess its a bit like the "admin" lock API | 16:40 |
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| superdan | johnthetubaguy: howso? | 16:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | superdan: where admin means "has access but is not owner" or something | 16:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | superdan: oh, so admins would see all migrations, users would see a sub set | 16:41 |
| superdan | johnthetubaguy: I was just going to add a policy element "can see admin migrations" and if you have that, you see migrations with hidden=True | 16:41 |
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| garyk | danpb: no we do not enforce. we support multiple versions with the driver. | 16:42 |
| superdan | it's not really admin, it's hidden, and "can you see hidden migrations" is the thing | 16:42 |
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| johnthetubaguy | superdan: right, thats cool | 16:42 |
| garyk | in some cases we need to check attributes that are exposed by certain versions | 16:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | garyk: but you have a min_version I thought? | 16:42 |
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| garyk | johnthetubaguy: the min version that we support is 5.1 | 16:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | garyk: do you check that? | 16:42 |
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| garyk | no, we do not. an example on where we check it dynamically in the code is - https://review.openstack.org/165750 | 16:43 |
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| garyk | johnthetubaguy: we also would like to start to suggest that people use 5.5 | 16:43 |
| superdan | garyk: so what happens if someone points you at <5.1? | 16:43 |
| garyk | superdan: some features may not work, for example VSAN | 16:43 |
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| superdan | so that's not really a minimum version then, right? | 16:44 |
| garyk | but anyone who wants to use these fetaures will use the correct VC version | 16:44 |
| garyk | superdan: vsan is supported from 5.5 | 16:44 |
| garyk | i am not sure i understand your question/comment | 16:44 |
| superdan | garyk: what happens if someone points openstack at version 4.0 | 16:44 |
| garyk | superdan: vms deployments will work | 16:45 |
| garyk | they will not be able to use some features, for example, storage policies. these are documented that they require 5.5 and above | 16:45 |
| superdan | you test this or you just assume so? | 16:45 |
| danpb | garyk: presumably there is some version that is so old that openstack will just be broken ? | 16:45 |
| danpb | ie inability to launch vms or something similarly major | 16:45 |
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| garyk | our current CI testing is done with 5.5 and I am using 5.5 and 6.0 | 16:45 |
| garyk | in the wiki, docs etc. we have 5.1 as the min suggested supported version | 16:46 |
| superdan | we're not asking about docs or suggestions | 16:46 |
| superdan | we're asking if it actually works at 4.0 | 16:47 |
| superdan | or 3.0 | 16:47 |
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| superdan | or whatever :) | 16:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | superdan: anyways, is there a reason we want to hide live-migrates and migrations, you would see the state change in the API, maybe you we always want to expose that…not sure… | 16:47 |
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| garyk | superdan: no, no one has tried those versions. it should officially be supported from 5.1 | 16:47 |
| danpb | anyway, weekend time - enjoy the summit folks - sorry i won't be there | 16:47 |
| superdan | johnthetubaguy: there was the argument that right now people don't see that record, if they didn't notice it at the time it was happening | 16:48 |
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| garyk | danpb: sorry to hear that. would have been nice to see you | 16:48 |
| garyk | superdan: i am not really sure i understand what you want, do we need a warning in the driver? if so I can add that | 16:48 |
| superdan | johnthetubaguy: so it's just "ops choice" | 16:48 |
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| superdan | garyk: we're just asking because in libvirt we go to great pains to try to be very upfront about what is supported by which version, and what our minimum is (enforced, not suggested) | 16:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | superdan: yeah, I just wonder if we should not add that feature and see if people dislike that, and add it later if needed? | 16:49 |
| superdan | johnthetubaguy: well, it was alaski that wanted the ability to do that | 16:49 |
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| superdan | johnthetubaguy: but the deal is, | 16:49 |
| superdan | johnthetubaguy: I'm adding the flag, defaulting it to False | 16:50 |
| garyk | superdan: ok, thanks for the clarification. | 16:50 |
| superdan | johnthetubaguy: if we never add the ability to set it, then it's zero cost, and if someone needs it suddenly, it'll be there in the schema and we can just do it | 16:50 |
| superdan | johnthetubaguy: or they can flip it manually in the db | 16:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | superdan: true, its not a big deal | 16:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | superdan: I just feel like we should tell people about all their moves | 16:51 |
| superdan | johnthetubaguy: that was the other side of the argument | 16:51 |
| superdan | johnthetubaguy: the thing is, os-migrations is admin-only right now anyway :) | 16:51 |
| superdan | johnthetubaguy: but just trying to think ahead | 16:51 |
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| johnthetubaguy | superdan: yeah, it does seem like a good compromise | 16:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | superdan: its the host names that we would not want to expose, I think | 16:52 |
| superdan | johnthetubaguy: regardless, the spec said no api changes, so even just exposing live migrations now is kindof an api change | 16:52 |
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| johnthetubaguy | superdan: true | 16:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | superdan: thanks for the heads up on that though, good to know! | 16:53 |
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| superdan | np | 16:53 |
| superdan | the schema part has already landed, so the hidden flag is there, whether you like it or not :P | 16:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | superdan: :) | 16:54 |
| superdan | I dunno what the appropriate britishism is | 16:54 |
| superdan | in america, we would say "neener neener" | 16:54 |
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| johnthetubaguy | superdan: we just turn away and then smile internally I guess? | 16:56 |
| superdan | hehe | 16:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Baodong (Robert) Li proposed openstack/nova: Split instance event/tag correctly https://review.openstack.org/183061 | 17:00 |
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| superdan | someone please approve this trivial fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183061/3 | 17:01 |
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| flashgordon | alaski: you beat me to the punch | 17:03 |
| superdan | someone other than alaski | 17:03 |
| superdan | alaski really doesn't know how to have a day off | 17:03 |
| alaski | :) | 17:04 |
| * superdan plans to talk to caroline about this | 17:04 | |
| alaski | uh oh, she totally agrees with you | 17:04 |
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| superdan | well, we'll work on an improvement plan | 17:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Baodong (Robert) Li proposed openstack/nova: Split instance event/tag correctly https://review.openstack.org/183061 | 17:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Baodong (Robert) Li proposed openstack/nova: Use EnumField for instance external event name https://review.openstack.org/183131 | 17:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Baodong (Robert) Li proposed openstack/nova: Handle port delete event https://review.openstack.org/179390 | 17:05 |
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| flashgordon | superdan: want to do the honors on this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183220/2 | 17:12 |
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| superdan | not sure it's an honor :) | 17:12 |
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| cburgess | Only 0.10.2? Thats... ancient. | 17:14 |
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| superdan | yeah, I wish we would be a little more aggressive, TBH | 17:15 |
| cburgess | Newer libvirts and qemu versions would solve a number of bugs that we handle poorly or with complex code today. | 17:16 |
| cburgess | its sad really | 17:16 |
| cburgess | Same argument we always have. | 17:16 |
| flashgordon | yeah, baby steps are still steps | 17:16 |
| cburgess | Better then nothing yes. | 17:17 |
| cburgess | Not saying don't do it. | 17:17 |
| flashgordon | also min version != recommended version or version we test with | 17:17 |
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| flashgordon | dimsum__: thanks for doing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181554/10 | 17:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make InstanceExternalEvent use an Enum for status https://review.openstack.org/183626 | 17:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Show 'reserved' status in os-fixed-ips https://review.openstack.org/168966 | 17:41 |
| mriedem_lunch | alex_xu: thanks, you're my hero :) ^ | 17:41 |
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| pece | if I return NotificationResult.REQUEUE from endpoint handler, notification listener is presented once again with requeued message - the loop is created. How to handle this? | 17:42 |
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| garyk | mriedem: do you have the link on hand with the libvirt version? | 17:47 |
| Glaupre | baoli_ irenab sadasu moshele : one of you are here? | 17:47 |
| mriedem | garyk: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LibvirtDistroSupportMatrix | 17:47 |
| garyk | tx | 17:48 |
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| baoli_ | Glaupre: hi | 17:50 |
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| Glaupre | baoli_: hello, I have a question regarding the binding of one VF for SR-IOV | 17:54 |
| Glaupre | baoli_: you redirected to moshele last time. | 17:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed openstack/nova: Update docs layout https://review.openstack.org/183221 | 17:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed openstack/nova: Prune development.environment doc https://review.openstack.org/182884 | 17:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed openstack/nova: Remove jenkins, launchpad and gerrit docs https://review.openstack.org/183342 | 17:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed openstack/nova: Make blueprints doc a reference for nova blueprints https://review.openstack.org/183343 | 17:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed openstack/nova: Add note to doc explaining scope https://review.openstack.org/182881 | 17:55 |
| flashgordon | johnthetubaguy: if your around it would be great to get some very preliminary feedback on my docs changes ^ | 17:55 |
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| baoli_ | Glaupre: ok | 17:58 |
| Glaupre | baoli_: I am not sure to understand where nova compute bind a VF to an instance. | 17:58 |
| Glaupre | for SR-IOV | 17:58 |
| baoli_ | Glaupre: it's the same as the regular port. | 17:59 |
| Glaupre | where that happens? I didn't find that | 17:59 |
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| baoli_ | Glaupre, it happens in the nova compute service, checkout the libvirt driver and the vif driver in nova | 18:00 |
| baoli_ | Glaupre: assuming libvirt/kvm is used | 18:00 |
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| Glaupre | all right, tks | 18:01 |
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| artom | https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/master/novaclient/v2/contrib/host_evacuate_live.py#L61 | 18:14 |
| artom | Would that ever return more than 1 hypervisor? | 18:14 |
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| artom | To me it would only make sense if there was, for example kvm and xen on the same host... Does Nova support that? | 18:15 |
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| superdan | artom: it would for vmware I think | 18:16 |
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| superdan | and maybe ironic | 18:16 |
| artom | I don't think live migrations make sense in ironic :P | 18:16 |
| superdan | you asked | 18:17 |
| artom | (Is Friday casual Friday, only instead of Hawaiian shirts and jeans it's funky IRC handles?) | 18:18 |
| superdan | yes | 18:18 |
| artom | superdan, but live migrations *do* make sense in vmware... | 18:18 |
| superdan | yes, but regardless, that client method doesn't know what driver is in use, so even with ironic, the line you quoted would return multiple things for ironic, AFAIK | 18:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova-specs: Allow admins to query user keypairs and create new on their behalf https://review.openstack.org/175579 | 18:19 |
| artom | Yeah... I mean, if it's looping over hypervisors, it must mean there are cases where there's more than 1 | 18:19 |
| artom | I was trying to understand what those cases are | 18:19 |
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| superdan | it's confusing because I think that the terminology is different in the api and elsewhere in nova. | 18:20 |
| superdan | but I think that's what it's doing there, yeah | 18:20 |
| notartom | ... when's a hypervisor not a hypervisor? | 18:21 |
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| superdan | vladikr: on the GET request, I meant that the result of a GET request doesn't currently include user-id in the body, does it? | 18:22 |
| superdan | notartom: there are hosts and nodes | 18:23 |
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| superdan | notartom: a distinction we introduced for baremetal and have regretted ever since | 18:23 |
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| notartom | superdan, what was the distinction for baremetal? | 18:24 |
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| superdan | notartom: in baremetal and ironic, one compute host is responsible for more than one "nodes", where those nodes are actual ironic boxes that look like hypervisors that can only take one vm each | 18:24 |
| notartom | superdan, so strictly speaking, 'node' should only exist in baremetal/ironic world. | 18:26 |
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| superdan | notartom: no, strictly speaking, node should not exist anywhere :) | 18:26 |
| superdan | but the ironic and vmware drivers use the construct | 18:27 |
| notartom | superdan, hah :) So what would you call the 'node' in ironic? | 18:27 |
| notartom | A hypervisor? | 18:27 |
| superdan | it's not the naming that is the problem, | 18:27 |
| superdan | it's the 1:N relationship | 18:27 |
| notartom | So in Ironic you would have prefered each err, 'node' to run nova-compute? | 18:28 |
| notartom | Except that's impossible... | 18:29 |
| superdan | no | 18:29 |
| superdan | and it's not impossible :) | 18:29 |
| superdan | anyway, it's a long discussion, and not directly related to your question | 18:30 |
| superdan | we have a session at summit to revisit it a little | 18:30 |
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| mriedem | we have ~13 minutes at the summit to discuss it | 18:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Bayer proposed openstack/nova: Provide working SQLA_VERSION attribute https://review.openstack.org/165993 | 18:32 |
| mriedem | :) | 18:32 |
| superdan | mriedem: which is plenty of time since it's not going to matter anyway :P | 18:32 |
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| notartom | mriedem, heh, I won't be at the summit - but I'm really just curious, not trying to question past decision. | 18:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: Adding user_id handling to keypair index api call https://review.openstack.org/70485 | 18:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: Adding user_id handling to keypair show api call https://review.openstack.org/183643 | 18:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: Adding user_id handling to keypair create api call https://review.openstack.org/183644 | 18:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: tests: functional tests for keypairs create in API microversion 2.4 https://review.openstack.org/183645 | 18:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova-specs: Amend robustify-evacuate to cover additional details https://review.openstack.org/183649 | 18:45 |
| superdan | should be an easy amendment to land ^ | 18:45 |
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| flashgordon | superdan: you see this before http://logs.openstack.org/38/145738/14/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-nova-v21-full/0ada47f/logs/screen-n-api.txt.gz?level=TRACE#_2015-05-15_18_12_14_693 | 19:00 |
| flashgordon | message:"ObjectActionError: Object action destroy failed because: host changed" | 19:00 |
| flashgordon | 8 hits in 2 days | 19:00 |
| flashgordon | for cells and v21 jobs | 19:00 |
| superdan | interesting | 19:00 |
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| flashgordon | just caused https://review.openstack.org/145738 to bounce out of the gate | 19:01 |
| superdan | it's actually from the db api | 19:01 |
| superdan | ConstraintNotMet | 19:01 |
| flashgordon | ohh | 19:01 |
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| superdan | but might not be host-related, | 19:01 |
| superdan | dunno why we translate any constraint violation on delete to that | 19:02 |
| flashgordon | yeah at the very least its misleading | 19:02 |
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| flashgordon | mriedem: question about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182884/2..5/doc/source/development.environment.rst,cm | 19:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Brown proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Missing docstring on parameter https://review.openstack.org/183133 | 19:09 |
| flashgordon | do you mean we don't need libvirt-dev to run the unit tests anymore? | 19:09 |
| flashgordon | so we should remove it? | 19:10 |
| flashgordon | also removing the whole 12.04 section | 19:10 |
| mriedem | flashgordon: you don't need libvirt-dev to run the unit tests, no | 19:10 |
| mriedem | you just need libvirt/libvirt-bin to run devstack | 19:11 |
| flashgordon | anything else we can remove? | 19:11 |
| mriedem | you'd also need libvirt-python which we need to add back to test-requirements.txt for nova, i'm planning on doing that | 19:11 |
| flashgordon | graphiz? | 19:11 |
| mriedem | flashgordon: graphiz is for tox -e docs | 19:11 |
| flashgordon | ahh | 19:11 |
| mriedem | graphviz | 19:11 |
| flashgordon | what uses libssl? | 19:11 |
| mriedem | probably the pycrypto stuff | 19:12 |
| sdague | yeh | 19:12 |
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| sdague | the cert management code needs it | 19:12 |
| melwitt | flashgordon: that failure is supposed to be addressed by this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182772/ | 19:12 |
| flashgordon | ahh I was thrown off because my env already had it installed | 19:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed openstack/nova: Prune development.environment doc https://review.openstack.org/182884 | 19:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed openstack/nova: Remove jenkins, launchpad and gerrit docs https://review.openstack.org/183342 | 19:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed openstack/nova: Make blueprints doc a reference for nova blueprints https://review.openstack.org/183343 | 19:14 |
| flashgordon | melwitt: context? | 19:14 |
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| melwitt | flashgordon: the "ObjectActionError: Object action destroy failed because: host changed", for cells. sorry I missed that it's happened for non-cells too | 19:16 |
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| flashgordon | ahhh | 19:17 |
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| tonyb | sdague: Thanks. I'll do it when I land in Vancouver :) Yay for 30 hours transit! | 19:44 |
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| superdan | omg stop complaining | 19:46 |
| superdan | I have 90 | 19:46 |
| superdan | wait, that's 90 MINUTES, nevermind :) | 19:46 |
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| sdague | heh | 20:06 |
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| sdague | tonyb: how far is tokyo going to be for you? or can you just never win? | 20:07 |
| mriedem | wacka wacka http://logs.openstack.org/21/183321/1/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/a263953/logs/screen-n-cond.txt.gz?level=TRACE#_2015-05-15_15_06_44_176 | 20:08 |
| mriedem | we should probably handle InstanceNotFound there | 20:08 |
| mriedem | rather than trace in n-cond | 20:08 |
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| mriedem | superdan: you agree? ^ | 20:09 |
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| superdan | mrda: yeah | 20:12 |
| superdan | oops | 20:12 |
| superdan | mriedem: I was going to say make it an expected exception, but in the case of that notification, yeah handle and ignore or something | 20:12 |
| mriedem | k, mtreinish and i were digging through logs | 20:13 |
| mriedem | finding goodies | 20:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Friesen proposed openstack/nova: fix "down" nova-compute service spuriously marked as "up" https://review.openstack.org/163060 | 20:33 |
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| cfriesen | superdan: so what's the story on this one? ^ are we going to hold off and re-architect service reporting first, or submit something like this now and fix up later? | 20:35 |
| superdan | cfriesen: is that relevant with the forced-down thing? | 20:36 |
| superdan | I guess it still kidna is | 20:36 |
| superdan | I'm not in favor of blocking things that fix issues in the db driver yet, no | 20:36 |
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| cfriesen | superdan: not directly. this one is related to the fact that the db backend uses the builtin "updated_at" field, which can be updated by doing things like enabling/disabling the service | 20:37 |
| superdan | right | 20:37 |
| cfriesen | superdan: we'd still want a "forced_down" field or something similar | 20:38 |
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| superdan | cfriesen: surely we have a session where it'll be appropriate to discuss this next week, right? | 20:38 |
| cfriesen | seems likely | 20:38 |
| superdan | doubt it needs much | 20:38 |
| cfriesen | it was on hold till the 293 db migration went in | 20:39 |
| cfriesen | I just reworked it to build on top of the latest codebase | 20:39 |
| superdan | I meant doubt it needs much discussion | 20:39 |
| cfriesen | yeah | 20:39 |
| superdan | didn't I just win 293? | 20:39 |
| cfriesen | yep | 20:39 |
| superdan | okay | 20:39 |
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| cfriesen | or maybe it was on hold for 292, can't remember now. :) | 20:39 |
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| superdan | I think 292 | 20:40 |
| superdan | but I won 292 and 293 | 20:41 |
| superdan | I'm very lucky | 20:41 |
| cfriesen | helps to have approver status. :) | 20:41 |
| cfriesen | on another note...where does the scheduler for Friday get put up? | 20:41 |
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| superdan | eh? you know we don't approve our own things right? | 20:42 |
| superdan | cfriesen: no schedule on friday | 20:42 |
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| cfriesen | superdan: so how do people find out what's happening that day? email, irc, word of mouth? | 20:44 |
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| superdan | cfriesen: there is nothing happening to find out about | 20:44 |
| superdan | it's discussion day | 20:44 |
| superdan | we'll put things in an etherpad to discuss that come up during the week | 20:44 |
| superdan | and talk about them | 20:44 |
| superdan | there's no schedule, no slots, you show up and participate | 20:45 |
| superdan | it's midcycle style | 20:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed openstack/nova: Remove unit_test doc https://review.openstack.org/183697 | 20:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Tomoki Sekiyama proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Remove error messages from multipath command output before parsing https://review.openstack.org/165560 | 20:47 |
| cfriesen | thanks. just making sure I know what's going on. | 20:48 |
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| superdan | cfriesen: you'll get it pretty quick once you're there | 20:51 |
| superdan | cfriesen: find someone you know and ask if you're worried about missing things | 20:51 |
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| DanyC | hi all (sorry to ask this type of question here but is the only hope i have that i can get a spot on answer). I'm running IceHouse on Ubuntu 14.04.2 and few days ago the kernel on a compute node crashed (that is the theory) and i just discovered due to being unable to access the instances on that compute node. I've paste the logs at http://paste.openstack.org/show/224197/ and it think s'thing crashed on libvirtd | 21:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Add libvirt-python to test-requirements.txt to enforce min version https://review.openstack.org/183706 | 21:08 |
| superdan | DanyC: see topic please | 21:08 |
| DanyC | sorry, thx. | 21:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: enforce minimum support VC version https://review.openstack.org/183711 | 21:27 |
| garyk | superdan: mriedem: johnthetubaguy: ^ | 21:27 |
| superdan | garyk: we weren't really saying you needed to do that, but I do think it's a good idea | 21:28 |
| superdan | so.. thanks :) | 21:28 |
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| garyk | superdan: after the interaction this morning it seemd like the responsible thing to do | 21:31 |
| mriedem | -1 | 21:31 |
| superdan | garyk: I think it is | 21:31 |
| mriedem | garyk: what you have there is not the same as https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183220/ | 21:31 |
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| superdan | garyk: what do you think it should do if it's too old? | 21:32 |
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| mriedem | this prevents nova-compute from starting | 21:32 |
| mriedem | which is not ok w/o a deprecation cycle imo | 21:32 |
| garyk | in the docs etc we say that it supports 5.1.0 onwards so i guess exiting is ok. | 21:32 |
| garyk | if you guys think it is too extreme we can change to a warning and enforce in M | 21:33 |
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| garyk | i know that is is only tested from 5.1.0 onwards. mu understanding is that suds also does not work properly with 5.0.0 | 21:33 |
| superdan | mriedem: so if we think it won't work on <5.1 we should start and fail to do things in a half-broken way? | 21:33 |
| mriedem | garyk: can you link me to the docs? | 21:34 |
| superdan | seems like exiting is the right thing to do | 21:34 |
| garyk | sec, i'll look | 21:34 |
| superdan | we abort startup in libvirt for config issues | 21:35 |
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| superdan | incompatible-with-success things | 21:35 |
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| mriedem | yes we abort libvirt if the version is less than 0.9.11 (and for parallels if you're using parallels but don't have new enough libvirt) | 21:36 |
| superdan | if it's in the docs, I don't think we need a docimpact, but putting it in the release notes that we actaully enforce it seems like a good thing | 21:36 |
| garyk | mriedem: http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/config-reference/content/vmware.html | 21:36 |
| garyk | for vc 5.0.0 they need to do all kinds of things to get wsdl (it was planned and the code never ever pushed as it was not used) | 21:37 |
| superdan | hmm, does that actually say 4.1 is supported? | 21:37 |
| mriedem | "This section describes how to configure VMware-based virtual machine images for launch. vSphere versions 4.1 and later are supported." | 21:37 |
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| mriedem | "Copying VMDK files (vSphere 5.1 only). In vSphere 5.1, copying large image files (for example, 12 GB and greater) from Glance can take a long time. To improve performance, VMware recommends that you upgrade to VMware vCenter Server 5.1 Update 1 or later. For more information, see the Release Notes." | 21:37 |
| mriedem | "vSphere 5.0 and earlier additional set up" | 21:38 |
| mriedem | yeah so this isn't clear | 21:38 |
| superdan | so I think docimpact is right, and that should be updated to just say 5.1 across the board | 21:38 |
| garyk | i think that the docs really need to be updated | 21:38 |
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| superdan | mriedem: I don't think we need a deprecation cycle for this really.. do you feel strongly on that? | 21:39 |
| mriedem | superdan: we do deprecation cycles for far less | 21:40 |
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| superdan | mriedem: but we're not dropping functionality that we test and that works | 21:40 |
| mriedem | i'm not as familiar with vcenter as i am with libvirt versions, so i don't appreciate how old 4.1 may be | 21:40 |
| superdan | mriedem: 5.1 was released in 2012 | 21:40 |
| superdan | 5.5 is what they recommend you run | 21:41 |
| superdan | 4.1 was 2010 | 21:41 |
| mriedem | where do they recommend that? | 21:41 |
| tjones2 | 4.1 is 5 years old | 21:41 |
| tjones2 | 2010-07-13 | 21:41 |
| superdan | that's as old as openstack | 21:41 |
| mriedem | 5.5 isn't in http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/config-reference/content/vmware.html | 21:41 |
| superdan | mriedem: they == garyk :) | 21:41 |
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| mriedem | exactly | 21:41 |
| mriedem | i can't tell from the nsx ci logs what version of vcenter is being run either | 21:42 |
| superdan | 5.5 is still 18 months old | 21:42 |
| superdan | he said they're on 5.1 right? | 21:42 |
| garyk | originally our CI was 5.1 | 21:42 |
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| garyk | we moved it to 5.5 a few weeks ago | 21:42 |
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| garyk | maybe even a few months ago (everything is a blur with all the + and - 1's) | 21:43 |
| mriedem | so imo libvirt 0.9.11 is old but people came out of the woodwork on the mailing list over mentioning going to 1.2.2 (which is the version we test against) | 21:43 |
| mriedem | so vcenter 4.1 is old balls, i get it | 21:43 |
| garyk | i am not sure that anyone is using anything below 5.1.0 | 21:43 |
| mriedem | not being sure and knowing are different things, so this is at least an openstack-operators mailing list thread imo | 21:43 |
| superdan | 4.x is EOL http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2039567 | 21:44 |
| superdan | hasn't been supported for a year now | 21:45 |
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| garyk | so what is the concensus - should i adda deprecation warning and then in M we enforce | 21:45 |
| mriedem | and if i were using 4.x i probably wasn't using openstack to begin with | 21:45 |
| mriedem | b/c i love pets | 21:45 |
| mriedem | garyk: at least start in the ML | 21:45 |
| garyk | ok, will do. | 21:45 |
| mriedem | the fact the kilo docs point out < 5 support is a problem imo here | 21:45 |
| superdan | mriedem: if we knew it didn't work on 4.x would you feel differently? | 21:46 |
| mriedem | mayhap | 21:46 |
| mriedem | honestly, | 21:46 |
| mriedem | it's nearly 5pm on a friday before leaving for the summit | 21:47 |
| superdan | FWIW, I also think we should be requiring a newer libvirt, so I'm clearly on the other end of this argument regardless :) | 21:47 |
| mriedem | i don't think this is worth rushing in | 21:47 |
| mriedem | i think ML first, see if anyone freaks out | 21:47 |
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| superdan | well, I think we can rush the deprecation warning | 21:47 |
| superdan | "rush" | 21:47 |
| mriedem | if not, maybe < 5.0 is a failure in L, 5.1 is min in M? idk | 21:47 |
| mriedem | we can certainly do the deprecation warning | 21:48 |
| mriedem | i'm all for that | 21:48 |
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| superdan | so let's do that now. sending the email could likely get ignored, | 21:48 |
| superdan | even by ops folks, over the next week | 21:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova-specs: Adds availability zone real data model spec https://review.openstack.org/183716 | 21:48 |
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| garyk | mriedem: i sent a mail to the list. i think that we should enforce 5.1.0 and update the docs - which are outdated | 21:50 |
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| garyk | if someone actually uses a version less than 5.1.0 i'll buy you a beer ... | 21:51 |
| superdan | I'll watch you buy him a beer | 21:51 |
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| garyk | :) | 21:52 |
| superdan | but, | 21:53 |
| mriedem | is there any conditional code that is for < 5.1 in here? | 21:53 |
| cfriesen | think I found a doc bug. http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/section_configuring-compute-migrations.html has "By default, the Compute service does not use the libvirt live migration function." But I think it does now, right? I see VIR_MIGRATE_LIVE in the default flags. | 21:53 |
| superdan | if there are people running 4.1, that just means we deprecate for a cycle, IMHO | 21:53 |
| superdan | cfriesen: no, that is not wrong | 21:53 |
| superdan | cfriesen: migrate and live-migrate are separate calls | 21:53 |
| cfriesen | superdan: this is in the "enabling true live migration" section. it used to be that even when you called the "live migration" api libvirt paused the VM before shipping the memory over | 21:54 |
| superdan | cfriesen: eh? used to be when? | 21:55 |
| cfriesen | superdan: grizzly? | 21:55 |
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| cfriesen | superdan: the docs suggest setting "live_migration_flag=xxxx" but the suggestion is our current default values. | 21:55 |
| dimsum__ | garyk: check with -operators too? | 21:55 |
| dimsum__ | garyk: min VC version | 21:55 |
| superdan | cfriesen: I never recall it being that way | 21:55 |
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| mriedem | i do see a docs bug for upgrade_levels.compute | 21:56 |
| mriedem | oh snap, it was a code bug | 21:57 |
| cfriesen | superdan: git commit 26504d71 set the VIR_MIGRATE_LIVE flag by default. went into 2014.2.b3 | 21:58 |
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| mriedem | superdan: heh https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183718/ - the kilo docs talk about upgrading from havana to icehouse | 21:59 |
| superdan | mriedem: for reference, libvirt 0.9.2 was 2014 | 21:59 |
| superdan | mriedem: so that's much more in line with 5.1 | 21:59 |
| superdan | mriedem: heh, nice | 21:59 |
| superdan | cfriesen: so when you say "it used to be" you meant "by default" ? | 22:00 |
| cfriesen | superdan: sorry, yes. prior to that commit live-migration would pause the VM unless you edited the config file | 22:01 |
| cfriesen | superdan: the docs haven't been updated since that commit | 22:01 |
| superdan | cfriesen: alright | 22:01 |
| superdan | cfriesen: the text in the docs seem to apply to regular migrations not live migrations | 22:02 |
| superdan | cfriesen: where it says "the vm will be suspended, minutes of downtime" is referring to regular migration I think | 22:02 |
| superdan | isn't the flag bit still relevant, potentially just with different defaults? | 22:02 |
| superdan | regular migration being completely different than live migration, regardless of whether the vm is paused in the latter | 22:03 |
| cfriesen | superdan: table 4.6, "description of live migration configuration options" | 22:03 |
| superdan | right | 22:03 |
| superdan | it says "In most cases, you will not need to configure any options. " | 22:04 |
| superdan | oh I see, below that is the statement you're concerned about? | 22:04 |
| cfriesen | superdan: below that: "By default, the Compute service does not use the libvirt live migration function. To enable this function, add the following line to the nova.conf file: " | 22:04 |
| superdan | gotcha | 22:04 |
| cfriesen | yeah, and the one below "The Compute service does not use libvirt's live migration by default because there is a risk that the migration process will never end" | 22:04 |
| cfriesen | those statements are no longer true | 22:04 |
| superdan | there's a similar one at the top that is talking about regular migration | 22:04 |
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| superdan | which I thought you were talking about | 22:05 |
| superdan | so yeah, I guess so | 22:05 |
| cfriesen | what project is that, openstack-manuals? | 22:06 |
| superdan | I don't know exactly where that is | 22:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Hennessey proposed openstack/nova-specs: blueprint qualified-uuids https://review.openstack.org/132623 | 22:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: enforce minimum support VC version https://review.openstack.org/183711 | 22:08 |
| garyk | mriedem: ^ - it now has a warning and in M we will take the dogs for a rabies shot | 22:09 |
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| melwitt | cfriesen: I think it is openstack-manuals, in the upper right corner there is a bug icon and it links to that launchpad | 22:10 |
| superdan | garyk: more stronger wors | 22:11 |
| superdan | er, words | 22:12 |
| cfriesen | melwitt: excellent, thanks. that icon shows up as junk on my firefox. | 22:12 |
| superdan | garyk: and I still think we should poll and drop earlier than M if signs point to mostly no use | 22:13 |
| melwitt | oh, odd | 22:13 |
| cfriesen | melwitt: could be a local setting. shows up okay in konqueror. | 22:14 |
| melwitt | hah, I see it too in firefox. I usually use chrome. must be unicode thing | 22:14 |
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| annegentle | melwitt: oo tell me the link | 22:14 |
| melwitt | annegentle: http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/section_configuring-compute-migrations.html | 22:14 |
| cfriesen | annegentle http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/section_configuring-compute-migrations.html | 22:14 |
| cfriesen | :) | 22:14 |
| mriedem | garyk: the rabies shot would prevent the dog from getting rabies, right? | 22:15 |
| mriedem | i think you mean, take the rabid dog out back and shoot it | 22:15 |
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| garyk | its a pet that is starting to foam at the mouth | 22:18 |
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| mriedem | we had to take a bat up to the university of minnesota to get it's brain sliced open to check for rabies once, otherwise i would have had to pay for the big shots in my gut b/c we found the thing under the bed that i was sleeping in | 22:23 |
| mriedem | i have pictures of it in a tupperware container | 22:24 |
| superdan | no thanks | 22:24 |
| mriedem | no turds in this one | 22:25 |
| melwitt | my word. | 22:26 |
| superdan | melwitt: have you seen the turd picture? | 22:27 |
| superdan | mriedem would love to show you | 22:27 |
| melwitt | no please | 22:27 |
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| mriedem | please hold | 22:30 |
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| penick | I, however, would love to see said turd picture. | 22:32 |
| penick | ... | 22:32 |
| penick | Just kidding. | 22:32 |
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| mriedem | melwitt: penick: enjoy https://plus.google.com/106668358919254945795/posts/dsysZwrBWy1?pid=6149230493461843458&oid=106668358919254945795 | 22:35 |
| mriedem | google really blew it up | 22:35 |
| superdan | mriedem: gotta explain it | 22:35 |
| mriedem | the caption does | 22:36 |
| penick | I’m having second thoughts. | 22:36 |
| mriedem | our dog ate a tube sock | 22:36 |
| mriedem | that came out a week later | 22:36 |
| * penick stares wide eyed at the URL, afraid to click | 22:36 | |
| penick | Well hell, now I gotta. | 22:36 |
| mriedem | i was overjoyed b/c otherwise it would have been possibly surgery to remove it | 22:36 |
| penick | Can’t un-see that. | 22:36 |
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| melwitt | so not clicking it | 22:36 |
| penick | Yeah. Don't. | 22:37 |
| mriedem | oh come on | 22:37 |
| mriedem | there are infinitely worse things to see | 22:37 |
| * mriedem goes to find some | 22:37 | |
| claudiub | :)) | 22:37 |
| penick | There are. Also, now if anyone googles me after the summit they’ll find an IRC log of me demanding a turd pic. | 22:38 |
| penick | I’m not sure how I feel about that yet. | 22:38 |
| claudiub | indeed, there are worse things in the world than that simple picture :P | 22:38 |
| mriedem | the one i showed comstud in utah was probably worse | 22:38 |
| mriedem | since it was human | 22:39 |
| melwitt | lol | 22:39 |
| penick | My word. | 22:39 |
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| superdan | cfriesen: just +Wd your numa fix.. you going to do the backport? | 23:04 |
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| flashgordon | superdan: http://interactive.blockdiag.com/?compression=deflate&src=eJxVj82KwkAQhO_zFM2cV1_AH9BEUMSNsOtJPHRmOibY2DIzsrhL3n1nohE9Nf1VdVFdspiTbfAIfwpgKa75lTMMpjDbrkaRxJG2Nd18kDM90AdkxWa7-14krQg1OUjK0cn10gVlxWcO4yj2vn0lbMke1JuNsSSGCeh8DmgMea9Tjg83pogt-ppsR2q8JMLNvYMRFpcOS0Zz0inVYsASPcG-N-uK5cfU6MKwF_Xh5amu5LPYo3TkX9lykauU2apWqfYfHMpTKQ | 23:35 |
| flashgordon | mriedem: ^ | 23:35 |
| flashgordon | how is that for a nova diagram? | 23:35 |
| flashgordon | as a first pass | 23:35 |
| superdan | lol | 23:35 |
| superdan | technically mostly correct I guess, | 23:36 |
| superdan | but visually kindof confusing :) | 23:36 |
| superdan | the loop around sched from api to compute is.. silly :D | 23:36 |
| flashgordon | yeah the visial is sorta hard | 23:36 |
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| flashgordon | that is the arrow to 'other' which is glance etc | 23:37 |
| superdan | well, | 23:37 |
| superdan | it's also the api->compute line | 23:37 |
| flashgordon | there is no api compute line in this diagram should there be? | 23:37 |
| flashgordon | I thought it all went through cond? | 23:37 |
| superdan | sure | 23:37 |
| superdan | no :) | 23:37 |
| superdan | so that is compute->other? | 23:37 |
| flashgordon | dropping other for a moment | 23:38 |
| flashgordon | and focus on the nova side | 23:38 |
| superdan | my point is, | 23:38 |
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| superdan | I though it was a line from api to compute, | 23:38 |
| superdan | which should be there | 23:38 |
| superdan | heh, adding api->compute makes it super confusing | 23:40 |
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| flashgordon | http://interactive.blockdiag.com/?compression=deflate&src=eJxVkEFPwzAMhe_9FVbPgz9QhgTtpCEEmwQ7TTu4ibdGs-oqMUID7b8TlzKxnKL3nOfvpWVxRx_wAN8FwCZRhG3qcCCYQ4lOJZa7qsjWIcrHMA7ZkRioV9QgfR4cJGrEoNXkWswMlnnoK_s39_CwfjLvbEH5btIznZJKT9VVdr16beAu2_XqZb15X8B2L-zJ764RGFtiI2weAZ2jlErLSXpiA_eYOvKjMlXh8LvJCUu0hy2jO5aW6lGxxUT_eu9ZPl2HUW__TPuEC_oIeQGboLP-Vi8XTVGMRXPV8w_LlGR2 | 23:43 |
| flashgordon | not much better | 23:43 |
| superdan | can we not use a real drawing program? | 23:43 |
| flashgordon | we can | 23:43 |
| superdan | that gives me an error | 23:43 |
| flashgordon | try http://interactive.blockdiag.com/?compression=deflate&src=eJxtj80OgjAQhO99ig13fQHURIFEDwqJciIclrb8hI0lLcYYw7vbohhMPM7M7uy3BSneigYreDKA1EgNmamxk7AGD3mvtJf7U7LYwDY5-MzqSqtbN-4E8SmElY2C-JiklwiyUpGQIreZnYZ_yU8BYSHJnQt3gJxLYzx30fQPchQCTS3F6Hy4qLlKp7kipd1iQchbz7UK7LFAI2dPlKTuvEbdL6fw_dGXzeLPkEdt_XOwj0LmOgc2MDa8AEd2VRE | 23:43 |
| superdan | still pretty roundabout, but better I guess :) | 23:44 |
| flashgordon | I think some people are afraid to open up a non text based editor | 23:45 |
| superdan | and "user" looks like a voodoo dol | 23:45 |
| superdan | doll | 23:45 |
| flashgordon | that sounds about right | 23:45 |
| superdan | actually kinda does | 23:46 |
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| flashgordon | it turns out placement is a really really hard problem | 23:47 |
| flashgordon | for diagrams | 23:47 |
| flashgordon | so computers are bad at ait | 23:47 |
| flashgordon | at it | 23:47 |
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| superdan | yes, so we can leave it to the humans :) | 23:51 |
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