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| loquacities | APAC docs people around? | 00:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | blah | 00:33 |
| bmoss | aye aye, cap'n! | 00:34 |
| loquacities | hehe | 00:34 |
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| JRobinson__ | Here o/ | 00:34 |
| loquacities | heya | 00:34 |
| loquacities | might just be us three ... | 00:34 |
| JRobinson__ | There's not a large amount to discuss I think - medium sized agenda | 00:35 |
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| loquacities | was going to run through the release tasks, at leafs | 00:35 |
| loquacities | least* | 00:35 |
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| loquacities | meh, i thought release week would bring some people out of the woodwork, but obviously not ... | 00:36 |
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| bmoss | shame. rdo is on the brink of being canned | 00:36 |
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| loquacities | adahms: you around? | 00:36 |
| adahms | Hi loquacities | 00:36 |
| adahms | Good morning | 00:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | trying to get this rdo thing working | 00:36 |
| loquacities | hi! ok for a meeting? | 00:37 |
| adahms | Sure | 00:37 |
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| loquacities | ok, let's do this then | 00:37 |
| loquacities | hopefully it'll be a quick one | 00:37 |
| loquacities | #startmeeting docteam | 00:37 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 14 00:37:50 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is loquacities. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:37 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 00:37 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'docteam' | 00:37 |
| loquacities | #topic Specs in review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/docs-specs,n,z | 00:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs in review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/docs-specs,n,z (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 00:38 | |
| loquacities | only mitaka specs now, obvs | 00:38 |
| loquacities | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227636/ (Mitaka - Ops Guide RST conversion) | 00:38 |
| loquacities | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227660/ (Mitaka - Ops Guide reorg) | 00:38 |
| loquacities | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224420/ (Mitaka - DocImpact) | 00:38 |
| loquacities | i do strongly suggest you vent your spleen on the docimpact one soon, too | 00:38 |
| JRobinson__ | The docimpact spec continues^ | 00:38 |
| loquacities | indeed | 00:38 |
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| loquacities | i'm very close to just deciding, since no one seems to care | 00:39 |
| loquacities | #topic Speciality teams: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/SpecialityTeams | 00:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Speciality teams: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/SpecialityTeams (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 00:39 | |
| loquacities | #info HA Guide - RST version (with a draft warning) to be published with Liberty. New speciality team forming under Bogdan Dobrelya for Mitaka. | 00:39 |
| loquacities | #info Install Guides - Final stages of testing as we get ready to publish (with a pre-release warning). Debian delisted for now. | 00:39 |
| loquacities | #info Networking Guide - New speciality team forming under Edgar Magana for Mitaka. | 00:39 |
| loquacities | #info Security Guide - no update. | 00:39 |
| loquacities | #info User Guides - Cloud Admin Guide reorg - big moves held over to Mitaka | 00:40 |
| loquacities | #info Ops/Arch Guides - Please review Mitaka specs. | 00:40 |
| loquacities | #info API docs - See status update #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2015-September/007487.html | 00:40 |
| loquacities | #info Config Ref - Scripts to be run today and tomorrow to pick up any final changes for Liberty. | 00:40 |
| JRobinson__ | For the User Guide, I still need to create a spec for Mitaka | 00:40 |
| loquacities | #info OpenStack Training Labs - Contact Pranav Salunke #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/openstack-labs | 00:40 |
| JRobinson__ | #info Mitaka spec for User Guide moves forthcoming | 00:40 |
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| loquacities | JRobinson__: ok, cool. try and get it done before summit, so we can discuss | 00:40 |
| JRobinson__ | Okay, thanks | 00:41 |
| loquacities | any questions on speciality team things? | 00:41 |
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| loquacities | right, moving on | 00:41 |
| loquacities | #topic Countdown to Liberty | 00:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Countdown to Liberty (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 00:41 | |
| loquacities | it's not much of a countdown now, it's here | 00:41 |
| loquacities | #info Only 23 hours! #link http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/launch?iso=20151015T00&p0=1440&msg=OpenStack+Liberty+Launch+Date&font=hand | 00:42 |
| loquacities | #info We have closed over 600 bugs for this release | 00:42 |
| loquacities | #info Release notes are drafted and proofed. Thanks to Darren Chan, Joseph Robinson, and Alexandra Settle, as well as all the project PTLs: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Liberty | 00:42 |
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| loquacities | #info Release tasks are being tracked here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Liberty_ReleaseTasks | 00:42 |
| loquacities | #info index.html went live for Liberty last night, on Thursday we will update the front page to redirect to the new Liberty books. | 00:42 |
| loquacities | #info No non-critical changes are being accepted into the Install or Config Ref books now. Any patches will be -2d and asked to be held over until we branch. | 00:43 |
| loquacities | any questions on release tasks? | 00:43 |
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| suyog | None from me :) | 00:43 |
| JRobinson__ | The current liberty update looks good on the docs.openstack.org page | 00:43 |
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| bmoss | I have a question | 00:43 |
| loquacities | oh hi suyog good to see you :) | 00:43 |
| suyog | hi loquacities :) | 00:43 |
| loquacities | bmoss: hit me | 00:43 |
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| bmoss | Does anyone have a link to a Fedora 22 Liberty repo? | 00:44 |
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| loquacities | red hatters ... ? | 00:45 |
| bmoss | Alrighty then. I'll keep going with Delorean. | 00:45 |
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| loquacities | delorean is the one with the old config files, right? | 00:45 |
| loquacities | that you were struggling with yesterday? | 00:45 |
| bmoss | yep. Old config files and mitaka packages, from the looks of it. | 00:46 |
| loquacities | weird | 00:46 |
| bmoss | you're telling me | 00:46 |
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| loquacities | adahms: do you have any insight here? | 00:46 |
| bmoss | I think Sam-I-Am is having config file issues with CentOS as well | 00:46 |
| adahms | I'm afraid not on my side | 00:46 |
| loquacities | adahms: any idea who we should ping? | 00:46 |
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| loquacities | i believe we raised a bug in fedora yesterday | 00:47 |
| loquacities | but it'd be nice to have a contact | 00:47 |
| adahms | Ah, ok | 00:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm having package problems | 00:47 |
| adahms | Hmm, good question - I'll look into it | 00:47 |
| loquacities | thanks adahms | 00:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | liberty changed the python mysql library | 00:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | and its nowhere to be found for rhel/centos | 00:47 |
| adahms | Do you have the bug ID on hand? | 00:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | not sure about fedora, because i cant even find packages for it | 00:47 |
| bmoss | adahms, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1271033 | 00:48 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1271033 in openstack-nova "nova.conf.sample is out of date" [Unspecified,New] - Assigned to rbryant | 00:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | which is all totally awesome a day before release | 00:48 |
| adahms | Thanks, bmoss! | 00:48 |
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| bmoss | that was just for compute. I think similar issues exist for other services | 00:48 |
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| adahms | Roger that | 00:48 |
| bmoss | anyway, we can move on loquacities | 00:49 |
| loquacities | ok, cool | 00:49 |
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| loquacities | just noticing russell bryant's picked that up | 00:49 |
| loquacities | might be worth pinging him directy | 00:49 |
| loquacities | directly* | 00:49 |
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| bmoss | ok | 00:49 |
| loquacities | #topic Mitaka Design Summit | 00:49 |
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| loquacities | #info We have a schedule: http://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/type/Documentation | 00:49 |
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| loquacities | i will have a couple of announcements to make in tokyo as well, but you'll have to wait on them ;) | 00:50 |
| bmoss | tease! | 00:50 |
| loquacities | :P | 00:50 |
| loquacities | any questions or issues around summit? | 00:50 |
| loquacities | or complaints about the schedule ... | 00:50 |
| darrenc | can we get any more work sessions? | 00:50 |
| loquacities | probably not | 00:51 |
| darrenc | oh ok | 00:51 |
| loquacities | we do have a cross-project session, though | 00:51 |
| loquacities | i need to check in with thierry if there are any sessions still up for grabs at this point | 00:51 |
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| loquacities | but don't hold your breath | 00:51 |
| darrenc | ok, thanks | 00:51 |
| loquacities | with big tent, there's a lot more people trying to get space | 00:51 |
| loquacities | #topic Open discussion | 00:52 |
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| loquacities | anything else? | 00:52 |
| suyog | any upstream community catch up events planned in tokyo? | 00:52 |
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| loquacities | suyog: you mean social events? | 00:52 |
| suyog | yeah.. | 00:52 |
| loquacities | there's a reasonable chance we'll do what we did in vancouver, and head out after our last docs session to keep chatting | 00:53 |
| loquacities | but no formal docs events planned, no | 00:53 |
| suyog | cool, we'll see. | 00:53 |
| adahms | Both suyog and I will be there from our side | 00:53 |
| adahms | Will be good to see you there :) | 00:53 |
| loquacities | great! it'll be good to see you both :) | 00:53 |
| suyog | :) | 00:53 |
| loquacities | ok, if that's it, i think we can call it a wrap ... | 00:54 |
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| suyog | thanks, loquacities. | 00:54 |
| loquacities | #endmeeting | 00:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 14 00:55:05 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 00:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2015/docteam.2015-10-14-00.37.html | 00:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2015/docteam.2015-10-14-00.37.txt | 00:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2015/docteam.2015-10-14-00.37.log.html | 00:55 |
| loquacities | thanks everyone :) | 00:55 |
| bmoss | thanks! | 00:55 |
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| darrenc | thanks | 00:55 |
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| skraynev | #startmeeting Heat | 06:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 14 06:59:08 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is skraynev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 06:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 06:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Heat)" | 06:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'heat' | 06:59 |
| skraynev | #topic rollcall | 06:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: Heat)" | 06:59 | |
| stevebaker | \o | 06:59 |
| sirushti | o/ | 06:59 |
| shardy | o/ | 06:59 |
| KanagarajM | hi | 06:59 |
| ramishra | hi | 07:00 |
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| tspatzier_ | hi | 07:00 |
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| skraynev | #topic Adding items to agenda | 07:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Adding items to agenda (Meeting topic: Heat)" | 07:01 | |
| skraynev | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282015-10-14_0700_UTC.29 | 07:01 |
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| skraynev | we have really short agenda for today | 07:02 |
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| skraynev | any additional topics? | 07:02 |
| Qiming | hi | 07:02 |
| elynn | o/ | 07:02 |
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| stevebaker | I've seen nothing to warrent an rc3 | 07:02 |
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| skraynev | stevebaker: feel free to add, I thought, that it may be part of "Updates from meeting with release team" | 07:03 |
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| skraynev | stevebaker: I have not any specific info about it. | 07:04 |
| stevebaker | ah, we're on target for release then, thats all the news I have | 07:04 |
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| skraynev | #topic Updates from meeting with release team | 07:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Updates from meeting with release team (Meeting topic: Heat)" | 07:04 | |
| skraynev | yeah. I wanted to say something like that :) | 07:05 |
| stevebaker | I've retagged the remaining liberty-rc-potential with liberty-backport-potential | 07:05 |
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| skraynev | ttx mentioned during meeting, that we 2 days before release | 07:05 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: thank you. I just recently started to use liberty-backport-potential | 07:06 |
| stevebaker | there was a new Kilo release today with *heaps* of fixes | 07:06 |
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| stevebaker | https://launchpad.net/heat/kilo/2015.1.2 | 07:07 |
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| skraynev | #info please use liberty-backport-potential tag instead of liberty-rc-potential for bugs which will be backported to Liberty | 07:07 |
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| asalkeld | o/ | 07:07 |
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| skraynev | stevebaker: is it ok, that some bugs have Fix Committed status? | 07:08 |
| skraynev | instead of Fix released | 07:08 |
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| stevebaker | skraynev: hmm, I saw that. I'll chase up and see if they made it in the release | 07:09 |
| asalkeld | skraynev: not sure why that is | 07:09 |
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| skraynev | asalkeld: probably you don't want to release them ? :) | 07:10 |
| asalkeld | i don't set that, it's all automagical | 07:10 |
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| asalkeld | once the fix is merge it goes to fix commited | 07:10 |
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| asalkeld | then when it is tagged , it gets set to released | 07:11 |
| stevebaker | asalkeld: I suspect the release manager has to run a script to make everything go to Fix Released. When I release things the 'script' is my clicky finger | 07:11 |
| skraynev | asalkeld: I thought, that ttx did it manually | 07:11 |
| ttx | stevebaker: genearlly bugs that are FixCommitted means they are fixed in the master branch but were not published in any RC or milestone yet | 07:11 |
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| ttx | I take all FixCommitted and turn them into FixReleased when I do a milestone | 07:12 |
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| ttx | so there should not be leftovers | 07:12 |
| asalkeld | ttx https://launchpad.net/heat/kilo/2015.1.2 | 07:12 |
| stevebaker | ttx: we're looking at the 3 FixCommited in the last kilo release https://launchpad.net/heat/kilo/2015.1.2 | 07:12 |
| ttx | oh. That | 07:12 |
| asalkeld | ttx there are some there, and we are a bit confused about those | 07:12 |
| ttx | I don't handle that myself | 07:12 |
| ttx | so it's extremely possible that they miss things | 07:13 |
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| asalkeld | k | 07:13 |
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| skraynev | ttx: thx. | 07:13 |
| ttx | one of the many reasons why we drop synchronized point releases with stable/liberty :) | 07:13 |
| stevebaker | I'll set them to Released once I've confirmed they're in stable/kilo | 07:14 |
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| asalkeld | we should asking Doug, but habbits hard to change | 07:14 |
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| skraynev | stevebaker: ok. please fix it. | 07:14 |
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| asalkeld | skraynev: is the session track sorted yet? | 07:15 |
| asalkeld | (for summit) | 07:15 |
| skraynev | asalkeld: it's next topic in agenda | 07:15 |
| skraynev | #topic Summit topics final revision | 07:15 |
| asalkeld | oops | 07:16 |
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| skraynev | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-heat-sessions | 07:16 |
| skraynev | I have sorted them by time and slots, so please review it | 07:16 |
| skraynev | I have some doubts about couple items | 07:16 |
| skraynev | e.g. Convergence Phase 2 was moved to metup, because we had huge discussion about it before | 07:17 |
| skraynev | so probably we may just take a look on specs | 07:17 |
| stevebaker | skraynev: if this was a fishbowl then the projector could be used to bikeshed the new commands: 12. Complete heat support in python-openstackclient | 07:18 |
| stevebaker | skraynev: maybe swap with 14.? | 07:18 |
| skraynev | yes. it was my doubt | 07:18 |
| skraynev | sure | 07:19 |
| asalkeld | skraynev: it looks mostly fine to me | 07:19 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: updated | 07:19 |
| asalkeld | tho' if you are short of tracks this might not need a whole session "Do we need an ops tool to migrate stacks to/from convergence?" | 07:19 |
| asalkeld | could merge into the general convergence talks / or leave as-is | 07:20 |
| stevebaker | skraynev: 5. 15. and 13. are all user-facing features, so maybe one of them would be better in the fisbowl instead of 0. | 07:20 |
| skraynev | asalkeld: I prefer second variant | 07:20 |
| shardy | skraynev: if you need to, we can combine 5 & 15 but I'm happy to leave them separate if we have enough time | 07:20 |
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| shardy | stevebaker: if we do that I'd favor moving the parameters one | 07:21 |
| tspatzier | 7 and 14 look somehow related - does it make sense to merge them? | 07:22 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: not sure, that one fishbowl will be enough... | 07:22 |
| asalkeld | tho' it seems we have nicely filled our slots | 07:22 |
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| asalkeld | so any merging will mean an empty slot? | 07:22 |
| skraynev | asalkeld - yes | 07:22 |
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| asalkeld | imho - ship it~ | 07:22 |
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| stevebaker | were we going to have a convergence phase 2 session? or is that 8.? | 07:23 |
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| skraynev | tspatzier: I think, that 14 is mostly about Senlin and future refactoring RG, ASG | 07:23 |
| asalkeld | stevebaker: the friday session | 07:23 |
| skraynev | tspatzier: 7 was aimed on potential problems on big scale | 07:23 |
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| * stevebaker scrolls | 07:24 | |
| tspatzier | skraynev, but still about scaling. maybe those should at least be adjacent sessions? | 07:24 |
| stevebaker | ahh | 07:24 |
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| skraynev | stevebaker: was moved to meetup | 07:24 |
| stevebaker | good call | 07:24 |
| shardy | tspatzier: FWIW I see those as separate, as it's more about working at scale than automated scaling | 07:24 |
| Qiming | skraynev, can we move 14 around? I have a talk during 9:50am-10:30am Thursday morning | 07:24 |
| shardy | e.g TripleO faces the same issues mentioned in (7) but currently doesn't use ASG at all | 07:25 |
| tspatzier | shardy, ok, got it now ... this subtle difference of "scale" ;-) | 07:25 |
| skraynev | Qiming: is it ok to move at 9.00 ? | 07:25 |
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| Qiming | skraynev, 9.00 sounds better, :) | 07:25 |
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| skraynev | tspatzier: 7 scale deployment, 14 scaling VMs in stack | 07:26 |
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| tspatzier | skraynev, I'm bought into it :-) | 07:27 |
| skraynev | Qiming: done | 07:27 |
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| Qiming | thx | 07:27 |
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| skraynev | tspatzier: playing around word "scale" :) | 07:28 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: shardy: so what decide about 15 and 5 ? | 07:28 |
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| skraynev | empty slot we may feel by convergence phase 2 talks | 07:29 |
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| stevebaker | skraynev, shardy: should we swap 5 and 0? | 07:29 |
| shardy | skraynev: I updated the title to remove the "scaling" word ;) | 07:29 |
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| skraynev | shardy: thx. looks better | 07:30 |
| Qiming | lol | 07:30 |
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| skraynev | stevebaker: now I think - yes | 07:30 |
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| shardy | skraynev: if you need the slot, I'm happy to combine 5 & 15 | 07:31 |
| skraynev | because convergence is not production ready (we wanted to finish it during M) | 07:31 |
| stevebaker | skraynev, shardy ug, I meant 15 and 0 | 07:31 |
| shardy | they're somewhat related I guess | 07:31 |
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| stevebaker | I don't really mind which | 07:32 |
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| skraynev | shardy: not sure that zaneb will be happy to see slot for Convergence Phase 2, but I think it will be useful (if you think, that will discuss everything in one slot) | 07:32 |
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| shardy | skraynev: Ok that's fine | 07:33 |
| skraynev | shardy: ok. I will merge 5 & 15, swap it with 0 and add (1) on empty slot | 07:34 |
| stevebaker | if we have a slot for phase 2 we can always continue any overflow on the meetup day | 07:34 |
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| skraynev | stevebaker indeed | 07:35 |
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| skraynev | shardy: oops | 07:36 |
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| skraynev | could you swap them yourself? | 07:37 |
| skraynev | 5 with 0 | 07:37 |
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| shardy | skraynev: sorry, I'm done, combined 5 & 15 | 07:37 |
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| skraynev | shardy: ok, then I will continue | 07:37 |
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| skraynev | shardy, stevebaker, asalkeld, zaneb: please review final result | 07:39 |
| asalkeld | skraynev: lgtm | 07:40 |
| skraynev | asalkeld: stevebaker: "Team review/triage session for specs" 9 was moved to meetup according comments | 07:40 |
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| stevebaker | lgtm | 07:40 |
| skraynev | I also agreem that it will be the best time for such talk | 07:41 |
| shardy | skraynev: looks good, thanks | 07:41 |
| skraynev | #action skraynev will migrate all topics to sched.org | 07:41 |
| skraynev | Good. Thank you for the help. | 07:41 |
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| skraynev | I will do it during today and tomorrow and will send email :) | 07:42 |
| skraynev | #topic Open discussion | 07:42 |
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| skraynev | I forgot to mention about crossproject specs | 07:43 |
| skraynev | They are in meetup section | 07:43 |
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| skraynev | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214817/ | 07:43 |
| skraynev | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181393/ | 07:44 |
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| shardy | I wanted to ask if anyone else has seen any racy behavior with either ResourceGroup or SoftwareDeploymentGroup lately | 07:44 |
| skraynev | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221163/ | 07:44 |
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| shardy | I know there's been a bunch of changes, but I'm failing to reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1503694 | 07:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1503694 in heat "A bad or out-of-range value was supplied:The Resource (0) could not be found in Stack" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Steven Hardy (shardy) | 07:44 |
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| shardy | In this scenario a RG of size 3 was created, but the first resource is missing | 07:45 |
| shardy | If anyone sees anything similar, please update the bug with how you reproduced :) | 07:45 |
| skraynev | shardy: I have not met such issue | 07:46 |
| skraynev | if will seen on gate will ping you | 07:46 |
| shardy | skraynev: thanks, I assume we've not got gate coverage of it it was more of a general cry for help :) | 07:46 |
| ramishra | shardy: I've not seen any. There are some other issues, like https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1503180, but I've not seen them in the last week. | 07:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1503180 in heat "functional.test_autoscaling.AutoscalingGroupUpdatePolicyTest heat_integrationtests.common.exceptions.StackBuildErrorException" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Rabi Mishra (rabi) | 07:47 |
| skraynev | ramishra: heh. we fix bugs without any specific fixes... | 07:47 |
| ramishra | The above issue only happened twice and then I've not seen it. | 07:48 |
| shardy | ramishra: Yeah, I was thinking of the races you fixed, but I couldn't see how they could create the wrong number of resources | 07:48 |
| ramishra | same for this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1503955 | 07:48 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1503955 in heat "functional.test_validation.StackValidationTest.test_stack_validate_provider_references_parent_resource" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Rabi Mishra (rabi) | 07:48 |
| shardy | anyway, something to keep an eye out for - I'm going to attempt a stress test later & try to trigger it | 07:48 |
| ramishra | sure, I'm having a watch too:) | 07:49 |
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| skraynev | #info if gate fails with similar issue like in https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1503694 https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1503180 https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1503955, please ping shardy or any core-reviewer | 07:50 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1503694 in heat "A bad or out-of-range value was supplied:The Resource (0) could not be found in Stack" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Steven Hardy (shardy) | 07:50 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1503180 in heat "functional.test_autoscaling.AutoscalingGroupUpdatePolicyTest heat_integrationtests.common.exceptions.StackBuildErrorException" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Rabi Mishra (rabi) | 07:50 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1503955 in heat "functional.test_validation.StackValidationTest.test_stack_validate_provider_references_parent_resource" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Rabi Mishra (rabi) | 07:50 |
| skraynev | one more thing | 07:51 |
| skraynev | need to update https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-reviews | 07:51 |
| skraynev | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-reviews | 07:51 |
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| skraynev | looks like it obsolete | 07:51 |
| skraynev | if there is nothing else, we may finish | 07:52 |
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| asalkeld | +1 | 07:53 |
| skraynev | ok. thanks all ;) | 07:53 |
| skraynev | #endmeeting | 07:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 14 07:53:47 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 07:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2015/heat.2015-10-14-06.59.html | 07:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2015/heat.2015-10-14-06.59.txt | 07:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2015/heat.2015-10-14-06.59.log.html | 07:53 |
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| SotK | Anyone here for the StoryBoard meeting? | 15:02 |
| Zara | \o/ | 15:02 |
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| SotK | #startmeeting storyboard | 15:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 14 15:03:03 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SotK. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: storyboard)" | 15:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 15:03 |
| SotK | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StoryBoard Agenda | 15:03 |
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| SotK | #topic Urgent Items | 15:03 |
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| SotK | #info Our changes no longer seem to show up on storyboard.openstack.org, for some reason. | 15:04 |
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| Zara | ah, I was going to bring this up | 15:04 |
| Zara | I've asked about it in infra a couple of times; no reply | 15:04 |
| Zara | seems changes from a patch merged on the 7th show up | 15:04 |
| Zara | changes from a patch merged on the 9th do not | 15:05 |
| * SotK will try asking in infra after the meeting | 15:05 | |
| Zara | okay, thanks. :) | 15:05 |
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| SotK | #action SotK to ask about the updating issue in #openstack-infra | 15:06 |
| Zara | It's my patch and it took a billion iterations, hehe. :) | 15:06 |
| Zara | I need answers to be able to sleep at night! | 15:06 |
| Zara | I think that's all on that. | 15:06 |
| SotK | :D | 15:06 |
| * SotK doesn't know of any other urgent stuff either | 15:07 | |
| SotK | #topic In-Progress Work | 15:07 |
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| SotK | #info SotK is still looking at worklists and boards. | 15:07 |
| SotK | The spec was merged! \o/ | 15:07 |
| Zara | \o/ | 15:07 |
| SotK | all the patches from last week still need review though | 15:07 |
| Zara | ah, okay. | 15:07 |
| Zara | I wasn't sure how much would change as you worked on permissions | 15:08 |
| SotK | I've been looking at complex permissions this week, making good progress | 15:08 |
| Zara | (should have been looking at them today, sorry.) | 15:08 |
| SotK | no worries :) | 15:08 |
| SotK | hoping to have patches out tomorrow (or maybe today) | 15:08 |
| SotK | I'll update my public instance at the same time too | 15:08 |
| Zara | please do :) | 15:09 |
| Zara | I want to find lots of bugs and make your life a misery | 15:09 |
| Zara | erm, I mean, I want the code to be the best it possibly can be \o/ | 15:09 |
| SotK | haha :) | 15:09 |
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| Zara | I've been mainly testing things; I looked at the 401 error but didn't get that far with it. | 15:10 |
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| SotK | the testing has been useful, thanks! | 15:11 |
| Zara | as part of my hacking around, I tried extending the duration of a token for longer than an hour and in the process discovered that the duration of a token wasn't set where I thought it was... which makes it quite hard to test | 15:11 |
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| Zara | that's probably more detail than necessary but hey. | 15:11 |
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| SotK | heh, I've not really looked at that part of the code yet, so can't be of much help | 15:12 |
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| Zara | I'm not sure what to focus on now. I can keep looking at it; might not get very far. or maybe start looking at notifications | 15:13 |
| Zara | I have the summit in the middle, though | 15:13 |
| Zara | and might be organising some sort of workroom in some capacity, though it looks unlikely now | 15:13 |
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| Zara | so it's not worth getting too deep into something new because I'll be disrupted before I begin. | 15:13 |
| SotK | notifications as in email notifications? | 15:14 |
| Zara | yeah | 15:14 |
| Zara | for changes to subscribed resources and so on | 15:14 |
| SotK | that'd be good to have, but if you feel like the summit will be disruptive maybe keep looking at the 401? | 15:14 |
| Zara | yeah. it's just a shame because it's not very... glossy, you know? :) but it does irritate people so it'd be nice to fix. | 15:15 |
| * SotK thinks Zara should do whichever she wants to do more :) | 15:15 | |
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| Zara | 401, I think. | 15:16 |
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| SotK | \o/ | 15:16 |
| SotK | shall we move to discussion topics? | 15:16 |
| Zara | sure | 15:16 |
| SotK | #topic Summit | 15:16 |
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| SotK | Do we have any plans to make? | 15:17 |
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| Zara | ahhh, I haven't updated that from last week. | 15:17 |
| Zara | in light of Tuesday's infra meeting, it looks like various task-tracking sessions that have since sprung up may be rolled into one | 15:17 |
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| SotK | yeah, I guess its worth waiting for the conclusion of all that before we make any further plans then? | 15:18 |
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| Zara | yeah. I'm not sure how involved storyboard will be; some people are pushing for a workroom focussed on maniphest development, which is fine but I don't have anything to add there. I just want to know what's going on | 15:18 |
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| Zara | and what we should be doing, in any case. | 15:19 |
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| SotK | if that was the only task tracker workroom/fishbowl then I guess we could plan things to ask in the "hallway track" :) | 15:19 |
| Zara | whatever happens, I doubt I'll be organising it at this point. | 15:19 |
| Zara | yeah, if it's a fishbowl I think it's relevant to us; if it's a maniphest workroom, less so. | 15:20 |
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| Zara | especially since my experience is on the webclient side and they'd be interested in the database. | 15:20 |
| SotK | In any case there doesn't seem to be much more to discuss here this week. :) | 15:20 |
| SotK | #topic Open Discussion | 15:21 |
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| SotK | Anyone have anything else to chat about? | 15:21 |
| Zara | I don't think so | 15:21 |
| Zara | glad your boards work is coming together at last \o/ | 15:21 |
| SotK | me too :D | 15:22 |
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| SotK | I guess the meeting can safely end now... | 15:23 |
| SotK | .. | 15:23 |
| SotK | . | 15:23 |
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| SotK | #endmeeting | 15:23 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 14 15:23:13 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2015/storyboard.2015-10-14-15.03.html | 15:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2015/storyboard.2015-10-14-15.03.txt | 15:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2015/storyboard.2015-10-14-15.03.log.html | 15:23 |
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| DuncanT | Are we doing this thing? | 15:59 |
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| smcginnis | DuncanT: Patience | 15:59 |
| e0ne | DuncanT: at least. we've got an agenda | 15:59 |
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| smcginnis | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 14 16:00:02 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
| * DuncanT waves | 16:00 | |
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| mriedem | o/ | 16:00 |
| e0ne | hi | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | Howdy | 16:00 |
| jgregor | Hello! | 16:00 |
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| scottda | konichiwa | 16:00 |
| xyang1 | Hi | 16:00 |
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| jseiler | hi | 16:00 |
| geguileo | Hi | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | scottda: ;) | 16:00 |
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| jungleboyj | Hola, como estas? | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | #topic Announcements | 16:00 |
| eharney | hi | 16:00 |
| * bswartz lurks | 16:00 | |
| diablo_rojo | hello :) | 16:00 |
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| jgriffith | <o/ | 16:01 |
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| smcginnis | Liberty RC3 is cut. Hopefully that's it for Liberty. | 16:01 |
| shamail | hi | 16:01 |
| * smcginnis crosses fingers | 16:01 | |
| gman-tx | hi | 16:01 |
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| smcginnis | Just an FYI for CI operators... | 16:01 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: I have a fix in HAVE TO HAVE in Liberty! | 16:01 |
| dulek | o/ | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | In case you didn't see, there is a gerrit restart scheduled for Saturday at 18.00 UTC. | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: TOO BAD! | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:01 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ;-) | 16:02 |
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| smcginnis | So if you're CI doesn't handle that well, be on the lookout. | 16:02 |
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| Swanson | hello | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | Related to that, soon after the summit gerrit will be updated to a new version. | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | UI changes come with that. | 16:02 |
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| patrickeast | hi | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | Not sure if I like them yet, but I'm sure I'll adjust. | 16:02 |
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| tbarron | hi | 16:03 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis: is there a preview of those out? | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | That's all I had for announcements. | 16:03 |
| asselin__ | Speaking of CI, I have a single-node ci solution merged upstream now: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227584/ | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Good question... | 16:03 |
| asselin__ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200330/ | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | https://review-dev.openstack.org IIRC. | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | asselin__: Awesome! | 16:04 |
| asselin__ | docs are still WIP, but you can start with that if you like. | 16:04 |
| eharney | asselin: nice | 16:04 |
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| smcginnis | asselin__: Thanks for all your work on that. It will definitely help. | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | OK, moving on. | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | #topic RemoteFS drivers refactoring | 16:04 |
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| smcginnis | dguryanov? | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | Doesn't look like they're here? | 16:05 |
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| Swanson | asselin__, woo! | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | Going once... | 16:05 |
| eharney | we had some ML discussion about this | 16:05 |
| eharney | not sure i have a lot to add here really | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | eharney: Yeah. I think we left it at needing to file a spec and bp. | 16:05 |
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| smcginnis | That's probably where this discussion should start. | 16:05 |
| tbarron | yep | 16:06 |
| dulek | smcginnis: +1 | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | Any more to say on it? | 16:06 |
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| eharney | nah | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | OK. | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | #topic Liberty release notes | 16:06 |
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| smcginnis | We need to update the release notes for Liberty. | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | I can get the page updated, but I definitely need help pulling that together. | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | If folks could head over to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-release-notes | 16:07 |
| dulek | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-release-notes | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-release-notes | 16:07 |
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| smcginnis | #info Need to capture Liberty release notes | 16:07 |
| mriedem | i'd recommend grepping commit messages for UpgradeImpact in the last 6 months | 16:07 |
| mriedem | there is an example in the nova dev ML | 16:07 |
| mriedem | makes remembering easier | 16:07 |
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| smcginnis | mriedem: Thanks, good suggestion! | 16:07 |
| dulek | mriedem: I don't think we're using UpgradeImpact | 16:07 |
| mriedem | DocImpact too | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | Def not often enough. | 16:07 |
| mriedem | but DocImpact is usually abused | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | I'll check though. | 16:07 |
| dulek | smcginnis: I assume that you'll review items on the Etherpad and move it to the Wiki? | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | dulek: Yep, I'll review and format. | 16:08 |
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| smcginnis | So throw in whatever you think is relevant and I'll sort it out. | 16:08 |
| dulek | smcginnis: I've put two things there, but I'm not sure if they fit, so it would be nice to have someone more experienced to filter them. | 16:08 |
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| dulek | smcginnis: Okay, thanks! :) | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | dulek: No worries, we'll figure it out. Thanks! | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | #topic Finalize Summit planning | 16:09 |
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| smcginnis | #link https://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/overview/type/cinder | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | I sent out an ML post on this. | 16:09 |
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| smcginnis | But if folks could take a look and make sure I didn't screw anything up. | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | Also captured here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-mitaka-summit-topics | 16:10 |
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| DuncanT | I thought we were going to rename the VIPR session? | 16:10 |
| hemna | DuncanT, +1 | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, wasn't sure about whether we should use that name. | 16:10 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: do we have only 4 working sessions? | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Five I believe. | 16:11 |
| xyang1 | 5 fish bowl, 4 working sessions | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | I'll rename that. Thought I may have the right to use that product name soon. :] | 16:11 |
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| jgriffith | any better ideas for title? | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | xyang1: Oh, right. Thanks! | 16:11 |
| jgriffith | I changed it... | 16:11 |
| shamail | lol smcginnis | 16:11 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: :-) | 16:11 |
| dulek | Hey, do we actually need a session on volume manager locks? I thought that was settled on the latest Google Hangout? | 16:11 |
| jgriffith | but I guess the other question is does anybody else have interest in the topic or should we just drop it? | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | CoprHD is open source at least. Should we use that? | 16:12 |
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| scottda | dulek: I don't think it's settled | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: I think the idea probably deserves some discussion. | 16:12 |
| scottda | There are issues with breaking clients, alternatives like a DLM, etc | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | dulek: There are a lot of cross project sessions on DLM. | 16:12 |
| DuncanT | dulek: The hangouts are just to try to nail things down a bit better | 16:12 |
| shamail | "the next multi-cloud SDS controller" | 16:12 |
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| dulek | smcginnis: There's one two-part session on that I think. | 16:13 |
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| smcginnis | We can leave it there for now, and change it if it ends up being resolved before then. | 16:13 |
| dulek | scottda: Okay, breaking clients is a real issue. | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | Partly why I left it last. | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | shamail: +1, I like that. | 16:13 |
| dulek | scottda: But please, no more "do we want a DLM" discussion again. :D | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | I'll update the session title. | 16:13 |
| DuncanT | dulek: When the only current client is nova, breakage might be less of an issue | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | At any rate, ping me later if you find any other issues with the schedule and I'll try to fix it. | 16:14 |
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| dulek | DuncanT: True, but I think snapshot/volume delete is consumed by clients also. | 16:14 |
| scottda | dulek: See? There's still more to discuss :) | 16:14 |
| dulek | DuncanT: Anyway - probably no point of getting into the details now. | 16:14 |
| dulek | scottda: You've got me. ;) | 16:14 |
| DuncanT | dulek: Yes, it is, and needs different handling purhaps | 16:14 |
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| smcginnis | #topic Mitaka Midcycle planning | 16:15 |
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| mriedem | tempest isn't a client of cinder? | 16:15 |
| jgriffith | mriedem: :) | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | So I want to start the planning and discussion for the midcycle. | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | I've had a few conversations with some folks on this. | 16:15 |
| hemna | location ? | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | I don't want to do every other release, but I would like to pitch the idea of occasionally having an international midcycle. | 16:16 |
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| smcginnis | Wondering if we can pull together something in Europe in Jan or Feb? | 16:16 |
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| dulek | hemna: Maybe Europe for the first time? Hey, geguileo, Spain is great! | 16:16 |
| hemna | I think that would limit the folks that would be able to go | 16:16 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: I think that's a good idea, BUT is Jan/Feb in Europe a good idea :) | 16:16 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: +1 for Europe | 16:17 |
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| smcginnis | I know Dell, IBM, and HP all have offices in Ireland. | 16:17 |
| geguileo | dulek: It is, but I think N is in Barcelona already... | 16:17 |
| Swanson | smcginnis, wants DeMC to pay for his european vacation. | 16:17 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: unless you do like south of france or spain or greece etc | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Hey, I'm in MN. Anywhere is better in Jan/Feb. :) | 16:17 |
| jgriffith | :) | 16:17 |
| hemna | Greece? really? | 16:17 |
| hemna | have you seen Greece lately? | 16:17 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: LOL... I forgot it's all about perspective | 16:17 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: :-) | 16:17 |
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| smcginnis | Spain or southern France would be nice. Italy? | 16:17 |
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| jgriffith | hemna: no... I was just commenting on winter weather | 16:17 |
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| smcginnis | I was thinking Ireland since it's not as expensive as some other options. | 16:17 |
| hemna | Grenoble | 16:17 |
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| shamail | Should go south of the equator, like Chile | 16:18 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: Yeah, Ireland was on my list, then I thought "jan/feb" :( | 16:18 |
| dulek | I can probably propose Gdansk in Poland, but it's a little cold in Jan/Feb. | 16:18 |
| scottda | Ireland is much nicer in summer... | 16:18 |
| jgriffith | I'll let DuncanT tell me if I'm mistaken | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Less expensive is good. | 16:18 |
| Swanson | I think every currency is doing well against the drachma. | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | Jamaica? :) | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Some companies may still be reeling from the cost of Japan. | 16:18 |
| hemna | jungleboyj, +1 | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Good point. | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | Oh now this is turning into a boondoggle. | 16:18 |
| jgriffith | LOL... BOOON-DOGle | 16:18 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: jinx | 16:19 |
| DuncanT | Ireland in Jan/Feb is wet even by Irish standards | 16:19 |
| shamail | lol | 16:19 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: That is scary. | 16:19 |
| Swanson | jungleboyj, some companies are spending a lot of money on sudden expenses. | 16:19 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: watch it!!! :) | 16:19 |
| xyang1 | smcginnis: are you going to cover my travel cost?:) | 16:19 |
| dulek | Why don't we have an etherpad with propositions? Then smcginnis will filter them and create a poll. | 16:19 |
| hemna | Hawaii | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | We can use that to tell our bosses it's not a boondoggle. :) | 16:19 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | xyang1: :D | 16:19 |
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| scottda | Somewhere warm | 16:19 |
| xyang1 | :) | 16:19 |
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| jgriffith | To be serious for a second... | 16:19 |
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| smcginnis | dulek: Good idea. | 16:19 |
| jgriffith | We should consider the fact that we typically have folks travel internationally to attend mid-cycles in the states | 16:20 |
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| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Good point. | 16:20 |
| shamail | jgriffith: +1 | 16:20 |
| jgriffith | It would be good if we could sometime trade off | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Exactly! | 16:20 |
| DuncanT | jgriffith: +lots | 16:20 |
| jgriffith | and I think there are a number of folks that can't travel to the states that CAN travel to Europe | 16:20 |
| hemna | it would be good. | 16:20 |
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| e0ne | jgriffith: +1 | 16:20 |
| hemna | I doubt we'd be able to make it fwiw | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | We're still very US centric, so probably not every time, but at least something like one out of four would be nice. | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | hemna: No HP? | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: If we are going this road we need to plan sooner than later. | 16:21 |
| DuncanT | Summer in Europe is generally nicer travel time though, and far less nuts temperature wise than much of the US | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Yeah, that's why I'm brining it up now. | 16:21 |
| hemna | smcginnis, I think it would be very tough for us to make it. | 16:21 |
| jgriffith | so maybe during N? | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | hemna: That's the one thing I want to avoid. | 16:21 |
| hemna | I can float it w/ my mgrs now | 16:21 |
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| scottda | Perhaps a separate poll on likelihood of attending in Europe. | 16:22 |
| * e0ne dreams about midcycle in Alps | 16:22 | |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: For N would be good so we could plan further ahead. | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-cinder-midcycle | 16:22 |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: ++ | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | For now, if folks could put ideas in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-cinder-midcycle | 16:22 |
| diablo_rojo | jungleboyj: +1 | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | Let's see what kind of feedback we get. | 16:22 |
| Swanson | Split the difference (and make life hell for those in asia) and do do Iceland. | 16:22 |
| scottda | We also need host companies to volunteer | 16:22 |
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| hemna | I'd love another trip to Europe though :) | 16:22 |
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| smcginnis | OK, if folks with international offices could also not that in the etherpad, let's list potential places. | 16:23 |
| DuncanT | Israel would be nice, but it's a bit stabby here at the moment | 16:23 |
| smcginnis | Then we'll need to have some discussion to see who would be negatively impacted by it. | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | Maybe we defer it to later release, but I'd like to do it soonish. | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | DuncanT: That doesn't sound good. | 16:24 |
| jgriffith | DuncanT: terrible pun | 16:24 |
| jgriffith | DuncanT: little too close to reality | 16:24 |
| hemna | DuncanT, lol | 16:24 |
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| jungleboyj | DuncanT: Not so kaboomy right now? | 16:25 |
| DuncanT | jgriffith: Far too close to reality, if I'm honest | 16:25 |
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| kmartin | the location should have working wifi | 16:25 |
| jgriffith | I've been watching the news.... I'd go back to Ireland if I were you | 16:25 |
| DuncanT | jungleboyj: No. Knives, screwdrivers, an axe and a few ram raids | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | kmartin: groooan | 16:25 |
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| shamail | fwiw, since there is always one international summit per year... companies will always be either still "getting over the cost" or "getting prepared for the cost". I would suggest making your decision decoupled from the Tokyo expense. | 16:26 |
| rajinir | Ireland+1 | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | shamail: Another good point. | 16:26 |
| jungleboyj | DuncanT: :-( | 16:26 |
| hemna | shamail, I'll tell my managers and cost centers you mentioned that. I'm sure it'll help. | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | #topic Open Discussion | 16:26 |
| shamail | hemna: :D | 16:26 |
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| jungleboyj | Ireland does seem like a reasonable location. | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | Let's move on for now. | 16:27 |
| jgriffith | yes please :) | 16:27 |
| e0ne | how hard is to get Ireland visa? | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | My preference would be Ireland, both for cost and I know we have some companies that are good options to host there. | 16:27 |
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| smcginnis | But anyway... | 16:27 |
| hemna | Ireland would be cool | 16:28 |
| * mriedem checks the clock | 16:28 | |
| hemna | They have beer ? | 16:28 |
| rajinir | US Government that enables Irish and US citizens to work and travel in each other's countries for up to 12 months. | 16:28 |
| e0ne | hemna: Guiness!!! | 16:28 |
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| diablo_rojo | Never been there, but I feel like I would fit in in Ireland, being ginger. | 16:28 |
| dulek | Talking about beer… | 16:28 |
| jungleboyj | hemna: You are such a kidder. | 16:28 |
| dulek | Shouldn't we meet for a beer in Tokio? | 16:28 |
| rhedlind | I came in late. Are we planning to have the mid cycle in Ireland? :) | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | dulek: Oh yeah | 16:29 |
| jungleboyj | dulek: Sake | 16:29 |
| e0ne | dulek: +2 | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | That was the other thing I wanted to bring up | 16:29 |
| hemna | jungleboyj, :P | 16:29 |
| tbarron | e0ne: the real thing, not what they sell under that name here | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | I'd like to arrange another Cinder get together in Tokyo if we can. | 16:29 |
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| jungleboyj | Love how this group gets on beer and traveling and can't get off. | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | That was fun in Vancouver. | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: ;) | 16:29 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 16:29 |
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| e0ne | tbarron: yep, I know that the real Guiness is only in Dublin | 16:29 |
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| hemna | smcginnis, +1 | 16:30 |
| smcginnis | I haven't seen any conflicts Monday night yet. | 16:30 |
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| smcginnis | Should we try to meet up somewhere Monday evening? | 16:30 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Ninja school? | 16:30 |
| kmartin | smcginnis, we usually get together on Friday night during the summits | 16:30 |
| e0ne | <smcginnis: +1, Monday is good | 16:30 |
| hemna | is everyone buying Katana's while they are out there? | 16:30 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Monday would be good. I have to be gone Friday night. | 16:30 |
| patrickeast | monday night works for me | 16:30 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: I have a conflict Monday night | 16:30 |
| hemna | Monday works | 16:31 |
| dulek | smcginnis: There's Woman Of OpenStack event on Monday | 16:31 |
| jgriffith | and Thurs night... possibly Wed night | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | dulek: Oh yeah. | 16:31 |
| jgriffith | but that's ok... I can have two dinners :) | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: :) | 16:31 |
| jungleboyj | Have there been notes about other events? I think the core event is Tuesday? | 16:31 |
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| smcginnis | jungleboyj: That and the HP party are the only ones I have set. | 16:31 |
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| jungleboyj | When is the HP party? | 16:31 |
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| DuncanT | There's an HP etc party one night, and the core party, dunno of any others (please let me know if there are) | 16:32 |
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| smcginnis | HP party Wednesday night. | 16:32 |
| dulek | DuncanT: Isn't core party on Monday? | 16:32 |
| rajinir | HP Event Wednesday Oct 28th 7pm | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | dulek: Tuesday. | 16:32 |
| shamail | Tuesday | 16:32 |
| jgriffith | This is a productive meeting :) | 16:32 |
| e0ne | "If a ticket becomes available, you will be contacted automatically with further instructions on how to purchase your ticket. No further action is required." :( | 16:32 |
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| smcginnis | jgriffith: I've lost control. | 16:32 |
| e0ne | ^^ it's about cores' party | 16:32 |
| jgriffith | LOL | 16:32 |
| jungleboyj | PARTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 16:33 |
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| smcginnis | Anyone have any real issues to talk about? | 16:33 |
| dulek | So probably Thursday evening is free? | 16:33 |
| xyang1 | e0ne: you couldn't get ticket to core party? | 16:33 |
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| tbarron | smcginnis: kilo backports? | 16:33 |
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| e0ne | xyang1: yep:(. I'm in a waiting list | 16:33 |
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| kmartin | Thursday is good | 16:34 |
| dulek | Monday-Woman Of OpenStack event, Tuesday-Core teams party, Wednesday-HP&Scality… | 16:34 |
| jungleboyj | Thursday could work too. | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | tbarron: Sure, go ahead. | 16:34 |
| scottda | Monday is kinda nice to get us all together before things start | 16:34 |
| tbarron | blocking issues for kilo backports are cleared, right? | 16:34 |
| jungleboyj | dulek: Oh, thanks for the reminder on Women of Openstack. | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | Monday and Thursday. :) | 16:34 |
| tbarron | but it is going to security only real soon now? | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | No reason we can only meet up once. | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | tbarron: Yes, as soon as L is officially cut, Kilo will be security only fixes. | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | Oh, I did have a topic. | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | If anyone has anything that they think should make it into Kilo before then, now's the time. | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | So, we have several Kilo patches that are close to going in. | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | Should I +A them? | 16:35 |
| tbarron | jungleboyj: that's what I'm asking :-) | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: If they meet the guidelines and are ready, yes, I think so. | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Now or never. :) | 16:36 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Ok, I will do that today. | 16:36 |
| patrickeast | i've got a handful of kilo patches struggling with jenkins/the gate problems the last couple of days, shameless plug: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/cinder+branch:stable/kilo+topic:multipath-iscsi-cleanup,n,z | 16:36 |
| jungleboyj | I was just looking at those. | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Thank you. | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | patrickeast: Are those depency issues? | 16:36 |
| patrickeast | all but one already were +A'ed at some point | 16:36 |
| tbarron | jungleboyj: thanks! | 16:36 |
| jungleboyj | patrickeast: and tbarron ping me if I miss anything. | 16:36 |
| eharney | note that the notifications related py27 failure has been fixed in master (as far as i can tell) but will still hit stable/kilo | 16:37 |
| eharney | i just saw it on one of patrickeast's patches | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | eharney: Ah, good to know. | 16:37 |
| patrickeast | smcginnis: they are in a chain as dependencies only to avoid merge conflicts | 16:37 |
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| smcginnis | Anything else? | 16:39 |
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| smcginnis | OK, let's move the beer, er, I mean meetup discussion over the #cinder. | 16:40 |
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| geguileo | XD | 16:40 |
| smcginnis | Thanks everyone. | 16:40 |
| cebruns | Haha | 16:40 |
| geguileo | Thanks! | 16:40 |
| Swanson | you're welcome | 16:40 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 16:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 14 16:40:24 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2015/cinder.2015-10-14-16.00.html | 16:40 |
| ntpttr | thanks! | 16:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2015/cinder.2015-10-14-16.00.txt | 16:40 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Thanks! | 16:40 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2015/cinder.2015-10-14-16.00.log.html | 16:40 |
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| xyang | jungleboyj: ping | 16:52 |
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| jungleboyj | xyang: png | 16:52 |
| xyang | jungleboyj: why did you kick me out of the meeting?:) | 16:52 |
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| xyang | jungleboyj: the last sentence I saw was "16:35:17 <jungleboyj> Oh, I did have a topic." | 16:53 |
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| jungleboyj | xyang: I didn't do that. :-0 | 16:53 |
| xyang | jungleboyj: then I could not see anything from the meeting any more | 16:53 |
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| jungleboyj | That is weird. We didn't cover much after that. I have things that I need to merge to Kilo before it is locked down. | 16:53 |
| e0ne_ | jungleboyj: you broke the meeting for us | 16:54 |
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| jungleboyj | Yeah, that was the last thing and then it looks like there was a net split. | 16:54 |
| jungleboyj | :-( Sorry. | 16:54 |
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| xyang | jungleboy: ya:) e0ne_ and I were talking to each other and he found out the meeting is over | 16:54 |
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| thingee | zehicle, hogepodge: do you all need me for anything else with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221631/ ? | 18:50 |
| hogepodge | thingee: give me five minutes for my "final" push | 18:50 |
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| notmyname | swift meeting time | 21:00 |
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| notmyname | #startmeeting swift | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 14 21:00:47 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 21:00 |
| notmyname | who's here for the swift meeting? | 21:01 |
| minwoob | o/ | 21:01 |
| cschwede | o/ | 21:01 |
| blmartin | Hello! | 21:01 |
| tdasilva | hi | 21:01 |
| jrichli | here | 21:01 |
| ho | hi | 21:01 |
| m_kazuhiro | o/ | 21:01 |
| jlhinson_ | o/ | 21:01 |
| wbhuber | o/ | 21:01 |
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| hurricanerix | o/ | 21:01 |
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| notmyname | welcome, everyone :-) | 21:01 |
| scotticus | o/ | 21:02 |
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| kota_ | helllo | 21:02 |
| notmyname | the summit is quickly approaching | 21:02 |
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| briancline | o/ | 21:02 |
| notmyname | I'm supposed to push a schedule by the end of the week | 21:02 |
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| notmyname | we've all been working on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tokyo-summit-swift as a place to coordinate topics | 21:02 |
| notmyname | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tokyo-summit-swift | 21:02 |
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| acoles | hi | 21:02 |
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| notmyname | so let's see what's there and rank them so we can figure out what the schedule will look like | 21:03 |
| notmyname | #topic summit planning | 21:03 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "summit planning (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:03 | |
| torgomatic | funny how the summit goes from "long ways off" to "oh crap" in the span of a week | 21:03 |
| notmyname | no kidding :-) | 21:03 |
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| notmyname | here's how I think we should do this: go down the list of topics listed, give each a priority (high medium low, 1..10, somehting). then I'll sort them for scheduling later | 21:04 |
| notmyname | and there are some interesting thigns (IMO) at the bottom that aren't yet fleshed out | 21:04 |
| notmyname | to recap, we've got 2 fishbowl sessions, 12 workroom sessions, and a meetup all day friday | 21:04 |
| notmyname | fishbowls are large rooms | 21:05 |
| notmyname | workrooms are smaller and won't have a prominant topic on the printed schedule | 21:05 |
| cutforth | hello | 21:05 |
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| notmyname | the meetup is completely ad hoc | 21:05 |
| * cutforth regrets getting caught in a hallway conversation | 21:05 | |
| notmyname | any questions on how the summit will look before we talk about the topics? | 21:06 |
| clayg | notmyname: it seems like the fishbowls might have some contention - be interesting to see how that works out | 21:06 |
| notmyname | (also, I think it's definitely possible to schedule continuous sessions for something that needs more time) | 21:07 |
| notmyname | I felt that in vancouver the mental context switching every 35 minutes was pretty rough | 21:07 |
| notmyname | ok, first up | 21:07 |
| clayg | notmyname: +2 | 21:07 |
| notmyname | mark seger diagnostics sessions in a workroom | 21:07 |
| notmyname | relative priority? | 21:08 |
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| notmyname | let's do from 1 to 10. 10 is highest | 21:08 |
| clayg | notmyname: can't relatively weight w/o a full list? | 21:08 |
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| notmyname | ok, on a scale of 1 to 10, how much to you want to have this as a scheduled topic? | 21:08 |
| notmyname | :-) | 21:08 |
| clayg | notmyname: can we stack rank or something? | 21:08 |
| notmyname | clayg: yeah, I'll do that after we have a number. or if we make it though all of them in this meeting we can do that at the end | 21:09 |
| clayg | notmyname: depends on the synopsis? I feel like I missed a link to a etherpad or something... | 21:09 |
| * notmyname votes 3 | 21:09 | |
| notmyname | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tokyo-summit-swift | 21:09 |
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| clayg | sorry i was late ;) | 21:09 |
| briancline | 7 | 21:09 |
| tdasilva | how about a 5 ;) | 21:10 |
| * acoles has been scrolling ahead on etherpad | 21:10 | |
| acoles | 5 | 21:10 |
| cschwede | 5 | 21:10 |
| jrichli | jrichli 5 | 21:10 |
| minwoob | 5 | 21:10 |
| notmyname | ok, 5 | 21:10 |
| ho | 5 | 21:10 |
| notmyname | next up | 21:10 |
| notmyname | ops feedback fishbowl session | 21:11 |
| briancline | 10 | 21:11 |
| notmyname | 10 | 21:11 |
| ho | 10 | 21:11 |
| kota_ | 10 | 21:11 |
| acoles | 10 | 21:11 |
| joeljwright | 10 | 21:11 |
| cschwede | 8 | 21:11 |
| blmartin | 8 | 21:11 |
| m_kazuhiro | 10 | 21:11 |
| torgomatic | 2.7182818 | 21:11 |
| notmyname | yeah, that one is obvious :-) | 21:11 |
| minwoob | 10 | 21:11 |
| jrichli | 10 | 21:11 |
| acoles | torgomatic: yep, notmyname did not specify integers | 21:11 |
| notmyname | cschwede: just curious, why 8? | 21:11 |
| notmyname | and there's a note from someone on it about potentially doing a longer session | 21:12 |
| joeljwright | torgomatic: it'll be fine until we get a complex vote :) | 21:12 |
| torgomatic | hehe | 21:12 |
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| cschwede | notmyname: to be able to vote something different higher, but still ensuring it gets enough points to be included ;) | 21:12 |
| notmyname | cschwede: heh ok :-) | 21:12 |
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| notmyname | seeing as we don't actually have any other proposed fishbowl sessions yet, it's very likely to happen :-) | 21:13 |
| notmyname | next up | 21:13 |
| notmyname | symlink from hrou | 21:13 |
| wbhuber | 7 | 21:13 |
| kota_ | 8 | 21:13 |
| ho | 7 | 21:13 |
| m_kazuhiro | 9 | 21:13 |
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| jrichli | 7 | 21:13 |
| briancline | 5 | 21:13 |
| minwoob | 9 | 21:14 |
| acoles | 8 | 21:14 |
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| joeljwright | 8 | 21:14 |
| cschwede | 8 | 21:14 |
| timburke | 9 | 21:14 |
| notmyname | ok, I'll write down 8 | 21:14 |
| notmyname | next | 21:14 |
| acoles | hmm, what is cschwede saving his 10 for? :) | 21:14 |
| notmyname | production keymaster from jrichli | 21:14 |
| cschwede | acoles: next summit ;) | 21:14 |
| clayg | notmyname: 10 | 21:15 |
| cschwede | 9 | 21:15 |
| kota_ | 9 | 21:15 |
| mattoliverau | o/ (sorry now in waiting room) | 21:15 |
| torgomatic | 7 | 21:15 |
| joeljwright | 9 | 21:15 |
| briancline | 7 | 21:15 |
| blmartin_ | 7 | 21:15 |
| acoles | 8 | 21:15 |
| ho | 7 | 21:15 |
| wbhuber | 8 | 21:15 |
| minwoob | 9 | 21:15 |
| mattoliverau | 7 | 21:15 |
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| notmyname | 8 or 9, writing down 9 | 21:16 |
| kota_ | mattolivearu: we are now voting (rating) for each item. | 21:16 |
| notmyname | next | 21:16 |
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| notmyname | remaining encryption items from jrichli | 21:16 |
| cschwede | 9 | 21:16 |
| wbhuber | 9 | 21:16 |
| blmartin_ | 9 | 21:16 |
| ho | 9 | 21:16 |
| minwoob | 9 | 21:16 |
| acoles | 9 | 21:16 |
| mattoliverau | I guessed that thanks kota_ | 21:16 |
| joeljwright | 9 | 21:16 |
| tdasilva | 10 | 21:16 |
| kota_ | 9 | 21:16 |
| briancline | 8 | 21:16 |
| mattoliverau | 8 | 21:16 |
| clayg | would it be easier to just pick the one topic of the 15 listed that we we don't think will fit into the 14 slots we have and will have to bump out to the ad hoc? | 21:16 |
| mattoliverau | Lol | 21:17 |
| joeljwright | :) | 21:17 |
| notmyname | ok, 9 as well. and these should be scheduled together | 21:17 |
| cschwede | clayg: too easy! | 21:17 |
| notmyname | next | 21:17 |
| notmyname | global cluster improvement from kota_ | 21:17 |
| cschwede | 10 | 21:17 |
| wbhuber | 9 | 21:17 |
| tdasilva | 9 | 21:17 |
| kota_ | 10 | 21:17 |
| jrichli | 9 | 21:17 |
| m_kazuhiro | 10 | 21:17 |
| ho | 7 | 21:17 |
| minwoob | 9 | 21:17 |
| blmartin_ | 9 | 21:17 |
| briancline | 7 | 21:17 |
| acoles | 9 | 21:17 |
| timburke | clayg: been thinking a lot about that pigeonhole principle lately, haven't you :P | 21:18 |
| mattoliverau | Everyone votes the same each time | 21:18 |
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| notmyname | we have 12 slots, actually. and we may choose to let one topic take more than one slot. or maybe "this afternoon we're covering all these things" | 21:18 |
| torgomatic | anchoring | 21:18 |
| notmyname | next up | 21:18 |
| notmyname | storage tiering discussion from m_kazuhiro | 21:19 |
| tdasilva | 7 | 21:19 |
| acoles | 6 | 21:19 |
| ho | 7 | 21:19 |
| briancline | 10 | 21:19 |
| m_kazuhiro | 10 | 21:19 |
| wbhuber | 9 | 21:19 |
| minwoob | 10 | 21:19 |
| joeljwright | 6 | 21:19 |
| kota_ | 9 | 21:19 |
| mattoliverau | 7 | 21:19 |
| jrichli | 8 | 21:19 |
| torgomatic | 2 | 21:19 |
| notmyname | more of a split on this one :-) | 21:19 |
| cschwede | 6 | 21:19 |
| * notmyname writes down 7 | 21:20 | |
| notmyname | next | 21:20 |
| notmyname | role-based access control with oslo.policy from ho | 21:20 |
| ho | 8 | 21:20 |
| briancline | 500 | 21:20 |
| mattoliverau | 8 | 21:20 |
| acoles | lol | 21:20 |
| notmyname | briancline: :-) | 21:20 |
| briancline | i mean 10 | 21:20 |
| jrichli | 10 | 21:20 |
| briancline | typo ;-) | 21:20 |
| blmartin_ | 9 | 21:20 |
| kota_ | 8 | 21:20 |
| ho | briancline: lol | 21:20 |
| * torgomatic knows some of those words | 21:20 | |
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| acoles | 10 | 21:21 |
| minwoob | 8 | 21:21 |
| cschwede | 8 | 21:21 |
| wbhuber | i'll go with the status quo | 21:21 |
| notmyname | lots of 8s and a 500 which makes the average pretty close to 475 | 21:21 |
| joeljwright | :D | 21:21 |
| briancline | \o/ | 21:21 |
| ho | yes! | 21:21 |
| kota_ | lol | 21:21 |
| clayg | notmyname: how is 2 + 12 != 14? | 21:21 |
| mattoliverau | We can vote that high! Awesome | 21:21 |
| briancline | ho: congratulations! you've won | 21:22 |
| notmyname | clayg: just separating fishbowl from workroom. | 21:22 |
| ho | hehehe | 21:22 |
| acoles | clayg: hex | 21:22 |
| notmyname | next up | 21:22 |
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| acoles | clayg: no wait, something else | 21:22 |
| notmyname | using keystone session object in swiftclient | 21:22 |
| acoles | duh | 21:22 |
| clayg | acoles: octal | 21:22 |
| briancline | 5 | 21:22 |
| acoles | notmyname: depends if anyone can tell us how | 21:23 |
| clayg | what's a session object | 21:23 |
| acoles | there you go | 21:23 |
| clayg | acoles: lol | 21:23 |
| mattoliverau | Don't know what that really is.. So.. 6? | 21:23 |
| joeljwright | clayg: :D | 21:23 |
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| kota_ | 6 | 21:23 |
| notmyname | keystone has an object thing that does a lot of the auth validation | 21:23 |
| notmyname | retries and all that | 21:23 |
| clayg | heh - maybe that means we *should* talk about it? | 21:23 |
| blmartin_ | 6.5 ish | 21:23 |
| notmyname | including keeping state between requests | 21:23 |
| mattoliverau | Ahh OK 7 then :p | 21:23 |
| ho | 7 | 21:23 |
| clayg | notmyname: it doesn't have a facilitator ( joeljwright ?) | 21:24 |
| notmyname | it's supposed to make things a lot better if you're using keystone. also, I think everyone else is doing it (or nearly), so if we don't they won't think we're one of the cool kids | 21:24 |
| joeljwright | clayg: not gonna be in Tokyo :( | 21:24 |
| cschwede | can we discuss the keystone v4 as well then (grouping keystone topics)? | 21:24 |
| acoles | notmyname: so I am 10 for it happening but not sure how far we would get in a session | 21:24 |
| notmyname | clayg: bad news is that joeljwright and timburke aren't in tokyop | 21:24 |
| notmyname | acoles: yeah | 21:24 |
| acoles | cschwede: v4?! | 21:24 |
| mattoliverau | digi-joel | 21:24 |
| clayg | it's like "Keystone for Dummies^WSwift Developers" | 21:24 |
| cschwede | acoles: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181393 | 21:24 |
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| briancline | lol | 21:24 |
| cschwede | i said v4 because it will break current clients | 21:25 |
| acoles | cschwede: oh that, right, thanks | 21:25 |
| notmyname | cschwede: we'll just do that one over sake | 21:25 |
| mattoliverau | \o/ | 21:25 |
| clayg | ... and tears | 21:25 |
| notmyname | :-) | 21:25 |
| cschwede | notmyname: sounds like a plan! :) | 21:25 |
| notmyname | ok, next up | 21:25 |
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| notmyname | swiftclient docs: improve the docs there, including making sure people know which part of swiftclient to use | 21:26 |
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| clayg | +2*32 | 21:26 |
| clayg | ^ that's as big as I go | 21:26 |
| mattoliverau | Alex should be at this summit so I'll drag her along | 21:26 |
| notmyname | clayg: but even though he's not going to be there, joeljwright helped by adding some of these swiftclient topics | 21:26 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: great | 21:26 |
| cschwede | 8.5 | 21:26 |
| joeljwright | 9 | 21:27 |
| briancline | 7 | 21:27 |
| mattoliverau | 9 | 21:27 |
| clayg | notmyname: that's because joeljwright is gentleman and a scholar | 21:27 |
| notmyname | ...and has impeccable taste in clothes | 21:27 |
| clayg | briancline: but it's... it's... DOCS! | 21:27 |
| kota_ | around...7? | 21:28 |
| notmyname | heh | 21:28 |
| joeljwright | there's a start here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223319/ | 21:28 |
| notmyname | ok, next up | 21:28 |
| timburke | oh yeah, speaking of swiftclient stuff, clayg are we at that point where i should nag you about how it's almost the summit and the client still isn't (that much) better? | 21:28 |
| briancline | clayg: i almost had a 5 because of other topics, but i said the same thing in my head | 21:28 |
| notmyname | container sync from eranrom (discuss patches) | 21:28 |
| clayg | timburke: YUP! | 21:28 |
| wbhuber | 9 | 21:28 |
| minwoob | 9 | 21:29 |
| briancline | 9 | 21:29 |
| ho | 9 | 21:29 |
| kota_ | 9 | 21:29 |
| jrichli | 9 | 21:29 |
| notmyname | briancline: likes container sync better than docs ;-) | 21:29 |
| mattoliverau | Lol | 21:29 |
| clayg | well.... idk... like 6 or 7 | 21:29 |
| mattoliverau | 8 | 21:29 |
| clayg | maybe 8, probably 7 | 21:29 |
| cschwede | 7 | 21:29 |
| acoles | 7 | 21:29 |
| briancline | notmyname: that's how you can tell i'm a corporate drone | 21:29 |
| notmyname | lol | 21:29 |
| clayg | it's a lot - that's the point | 21:29 |
| notmyname | 9s and 7s. I'll write down 8 | 21:30 |
| notmyname | next up | 21:30 |
| notmyname | EC topics from acoles (and I hope others too) | 21:30 |
| acoles | 1 | 21:30 |
| acoles | 0 | 21:30 |
| cschwede | 10 | 21:30 |
| clayg | ROFL | 21:30 |
| notmyname | lol | 21:30 |
| cschwede | lol | 21:30 |
| clayg | 2**32 | 21:30 |
| kota_ | 10 | 21:30 |
| wbhuber | 100 divided by 10 | 21:30 |
| minwoob | 10 | 21:30 |
| jrichli | 9 | 21:31 |
| briancline | 9 | 21:31 |
| ho | 9 | 21:31 |
| blmartin_ | 9 | 21:31 |
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| mattoliverau | Lower is better right? :p | 21:31 |
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| mattoliverau | 8 | 21:31 |
| blmartin_ | All of this has been golf scoring actually | 21:31 |
| acoles | mattoliverau: in your hemisphere maybe ;) | 21:31 |
| notmyname | next up | 21:31 |
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| briancline | lol | 21:31 |
| mattoliverau | ROFL | 21:31 |
| notmyname | container sharding | 21:31 |
| minwoob | 10 | 21:31 |
| joeljwright | 9 | 21:31 |
| mattoliverau | 10 | 21:31 |
| notmyname | minwoob: you can't say 10 to everythign ;-) | 21:32 |
| briancline | 10 | 21:32 |
| jrichli | 9 | 21:32 |
| blmartin_ | 10! | 21:32 |
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| torgomatic | 9¾ | 21:32 |
| cschwede | 9 | 21:32 |
| kota_ | 8 | 21:32 |
| wbhuber | 9 | 21:32 |
| acoles | 9 | 21:32 |
| minwoob | notmyname: I've only said it twice! :) | 21:32 |
| ho | 8 | 21:32 |
| mattoliverau | This is the summit where we go back to poc #1 :p | 21:32 |
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| notmyname | next up | 21:33 |
| notmyname | pipeline improvements/auditing | 21:33 |
| briancline | 9 | 21:33 |
| wbhuber | n/a | 21:33 |
| notmyname | I'd be fine with this one on friday | 21:33 |
| clayg | oh - proxy pipelines | 21:33 |
| mattoliverau | That's what I said in the ehterpad :) | 21:33 |
| notmyname | (although I think it's a great improvement!) | 21:33 |
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| mattoliverau | All pipelines really but proxy is the main | 21:34 |
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| notmyname | mattoliverau: oh yeah! | 21:34 |
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| kota_ | i like this but...around 8? | 21:34 |
| clayg | idk... 6 | 21:34 |
| jrichli | 7 | 21:34 |
| kota_ | i'm not sure everyone wants that. | 21:34 |
| minwoob | 8 | 21:34 |
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| notmyname | priority as "friday" | 21:34 |
| cschwede | seems like there are more important topics? | 21:34 |
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| mattoliverau | 10 - cause I put it in, but was more thinking of making a group interested on friday | 21:35 |
| notmyname | next is the same | 21:35 |
| notmyname | swift3 compatibility | 21:35 |
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| jrichli | 9 | 21:35 |
| kota_ | i like to this priority as friday, too :-) | 21:35 |
| clayg | notmyname: idk, if timburke was going to be there I might try to rib him into talking about s3_compat repo and progress | 21:35 |
| briancline | 5 | 21:36 |
| mattoliverau | 8 (just don't do it while I'm involved in pipelines) | 21:36 |
| notmyname | I want to leave this one as friday for now, until we see what else we have | 21:36 |
| tdasilva | friday | 21:36 |
| notmyname | ok, next up | 21:36 |
| mattoliverau | Yeah friday | 21:36 |
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| notmyname | anti-myth replica part placer from clayg | 21:36 |
| cschwede | 10 | 21:37 |
| ho | 10, restoring! great! | 21:37 |
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| briancline | 10 | 21:37 |
| torgomatic | 10 | 21:37 |
| briancline | 1/x | 21:37 |
| acoles | 1/0 | 21:37 |
| minwoob | 10 | 21:37 |
| kota_ | 10 | 21:37 |
| notmyname | ok, 10. I got it :-) | 21:37 |
| clayg | acoles: ^ yeah i think i'll get rid of most of those by toyko | 21:37 |
| torgomatic | oh, can we use fish numbers? | 21:37 |
| mattoliverau | Going into doctors now | 21:37 |
| blmartin_ | 10 because graphs and charts | 21:37 |
| clayg | blmartin_: probably mostly gifs | 21:38 |
| blmartin_ | Noooooooooooo | 21:38 |
| cschwede | cats? | 21:38 |
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| notmyname | ok, those are the ones that were fleshed out. next up are general ideas, some need to be expanded | 21:38 |
| clayg | blmartin_: of c... ^ exactly | 21:38 |
| notmyname | eg this one | 21:38 |
| notmyname | hummingbird update | 21:38 |
| notmyname | or combine with hummingbird sync protocol unification | 21:38 |
| clayg | redbo_: dfg: hurricanerix: nadeem_: do eet! | 21:38 |
| clayg | mmmmmm... get the syncs in sync - so sexy | 21:39 |
| briancline | oops, by 1/x i meant something that graphs very differently. fuzzy brain | 21:39 |
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| * notmyname wonders if any of those people are online | 21:39 | |
| hurricanerix | i defer to dfg & redbo =) | 21:39 |
| clayg | hurricanerix: no YOU do it | 21:39 |
| notmyname | hurricanerix: will you be there? | 21:39 |
| clayg | DEW EET! | 21:40 |
| hurricanerix | notmyname: yp | 21:40 |
| hurricanerix | yup | 21:40 |
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| notmyname | yay! | 21:40 |
| clayg | ok, done | 21:40 |
| briancline | i'd actually really like to hear about the progress on that | 21:40 |
| clayg | 2**32 | 21:40 |
| redbo_ | We can do that. There'll be some stuff in our talk, but we have a lot of data we can share. | 21:40 |
| briancline | 9 | 21:40 |
| tdasilva | 9 | 21:40 |
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| dfg_ | hello? | 21:40 |
| ho | 9 | 21:40 |
| clayg | redbo_: I might watch the video of the business track session - but I'm not going to participate if I can be obnoxious and ask questions | 21:40 |
| tdasilva | dfg_: just say 10 ;) | 21:40 |
| minwoob | 9 | 21:41 |
| redbo_ | I assume you meant "can't" :) | 21:41 |
| notmyname | redbo_: dfg_: yeah, somehting not a presentation but figuring out how we can unify some of the backend stuff from hummingbird and listen to some of the progress there | 21:41 |
| dfg_ | 10 | 21:41 |
| notmyname | dfg_: oh good :-) | 21:41 |
| clayg | dfg_: good job | 21:41 |
| dfg_ | nadeem told me to write 10. i trust him | 21:41 |
| kota_ | lol | 21:41 |
| nadeem_ | lol | 21:41 |
| clayg | dfg_: srly, nadeem_ is whicked smart | 21:41 |
| dfg_ | as oppose to the rest of you jokers | 21:41 |
| notmyname | dfg_: I'll expect the rough draft first thing monday | 21:42 |
| notmyname | ;-) | 21:42 |
| notmyname | ok, next one | 21:42 |
| notmyname | chaning policy on an existing container | 21:42 |
| notmyname | *changing even | 21:42 |
| clayg | notmyname: was tiering already up there? | 21:42 |
| notmyname | yup. scratch this one | 21:42 |
| notmyname | ok, next | 21:43 |
| notmyname | how to contribute intro | 21:43 |
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| tdasilva | friday | 21:43 |
| notmyname | (maybe) friday ;-) | 21:43 |
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| clayg | notmyname: we've had some new folks helping cleanup the onboarding docs in tree - been kinda nice - hope to see more of that | 21:43 |
| notmyname | yes! I'm very willing to help with new contributors, especially in person at a summit | 21:44 |
| clayg | "how to contribute" ==> "email notmyname" | 21:44 |
| notmyname | but it's an "as-needed" priority | 21:44 |
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| notmyname | clayg: yeah, that. (seriously) | 21:44 |
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| notmyname | ok, next | 21:44 |
| briancline | clayg: are the onboarding docs in the usual swift.openstack.org docs? i know some folks who would like to see those | 21:45 |
| notmyname | per policy constraints (ie stuff from swift.conf) | 21:45 |
| notmyname | briancline: not quite | 21:45 |
| clayg | briancline: oh, heh - i was about to say yes :) | 21:45 |
| notmyname | briancline: sortof, but they could be better. that's on my list (somewhere) | 21:45 |
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| clayg | mmm... yeah per-policy settings/constraints... umm... 2**32 for a patch, 1 for a non-friday session | 21:46 |
| acoles | briancline: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/first_contribution_swift.html | 21:46 |
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| acoles | briancline: there may be other docs too | 21:46 |
| notmyname | clayg: what do you mean by "1 for a non-friday session"? | 21:46 |
| briancline | 5 | 21:47 |
| briancline | acoles: thanks | 21:47 |
| torgomatic | 1 | 21:47 |
| clayg | notmyname: I just think we can talk about it but it's not a huge debate over implemenation or design or w/e | 21:47 |
| tdasilva | 7 | 21:47 |
| clayg | so we don't really need an organized session | 21:47 |
| notmyname | ok, "friday" priority | 21:47 |
| tdasilva | friday sounds good | 21:48 |
| clayg | just like "hey sort_method should be per-policy" - "yeah totally!" - "how should we do that?!" - "umm... with vim?" | 21:48 |
| notmyname | last one listed (unless I missed something) | 21:48 |
| notmyname | high-latency media (tape) update | 21:48 |
| notmyname | 1 | 21:48 |
| torgomatic | 1 | 21:48 |
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| clayg | idk, something there seems to suggest there's an API to discuss? I'd listen to that (probably). | 21:49 |
| notmyname | anyone else/ | 21:49 |
| clayg | be even better to get to read it | 21:49 |
| cschwede | 5 | 21:49 |
| tdasilva | friday | 21:49 |
| cschwede | out of curiosity | 21:49 |
| clayg | well I'd like to know more about who's *working* on this - and what they've accomplished - I have very little business/project/personal reason to think tape is KEY | 21:50 |
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| clayg | I guess that's a 1 or a 2? | 21:51 |
| notmyname | I'd like to see this as part of a tiering thing and something to read. instead of taking an hour on friday to discuss | 21:51 |
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| notmyname | I think we've got enough stuff to fill up the slots anyway | 21:52 |
| clayg | how about the API is just a COPY that returns a 202 real quick but then a GET to the target might 404 for awhile | 21:52 |
| notmyname | but that being said, there's still one open issue | 21:52 |
| notmyname | we've got one topic proposal that's a fishbowl session (ops feedback) | 21:52 |
| notmyname | and we have 2 fishbowl slots | 21:52 |
| clayg | the client request drops something in a internal container q somewhere | 21:52 |
| clayg | DONE | 21:52 |
| notmyname | so what's the other fishbowl slot | 21:52 |
| jrichli | its like the last donut | 21:52 |
| blmartin_ | Haha | 21:53 |
| acoles | notmyname: just realised i didn't write fast-post on the etherpad :P | 21:53 |
| joeljwright | :) | 21:53 |
| clayg | YES FISHBOWL ON FAST-POST! | 21:53 |
| notmyname | heh | 21:53 |
| acoles | you see how i played that hand | 21:53 |
| torgomatic | yeah, fast-post is important | 21:53 |
| clayg | acoles: well hold everyone hostage until it's merged! | 21:53 |
| clayg | notmyname: acctually maybe just a "review acoles' patches" session? | 21:54 |
| notmyname | yeah | 21:54 |
| acoles | seriously, idk there's a session there, its been discussed plenty before | 21:54 |
| notmyname | actually, yes. I'd love to see workroom stuff as code review time. I think that's fine | 21:54 |
| * acoles goes to read the corporate guidelines on bribery... | 21:55 | |
| notmyname | fishbowls can be more of "discuss something or present something with a big group". workrooms are like the hackathons: do what it takes to make progress on the topic | 21:55 |
| notmyname | so what do we have that needs to gather feedback from a large group or discuss with a larger group? ie for a second fishbowl | 21:56 |
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| notmyname | also, it could be that we have 2 ops feedback sessions, if we think that will be better than just having one | 21:56 |
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| timburke | acoles: no, you should go read the corporate guidelines on "gifts to aid collaboration". you should never *start off* calling it "bribery" :) | 21:57 |
| acoles | notmyname: symlinks??? | 21:57 |
| notmyname | acoles: encryption? | 21:57 |
| acoles | timburke: right! :) | 21:57 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: maybe the container sync from Eran | 21:57 |
| notmyname | ec overview? | 21:57 |
| notmyname | something about figuring out what to do with dependencies and requirements.txt? | 21:58 |
| notmyname | how to make pyeclib sane? (sorry, better) | 21:58 |
| jrichli | deps and requirements +1 | 21:58 |
| acoles | ec performance results? | 21:59 |
| clayg | notmyname: yeah it needs to be the thing where we think people outside of swift developers and deployers will be valuable to engage in the conversation - since only fishbowls are the publiziced sessions | 21:59 |
| notmyname | acoles: peluse_ and I are already giving a talk on that :-) | 21:59 |
| notmyname | clayg: right! | 21:59 |
| acoles | well give it twice! | 21:59 |
| acoles | notmyname: is that on tuesday? | 21:59 |
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| notmyname | ok, I'll think on it | 21:59 |
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| notmyname | but we're out of time for today | 21:59 |
| notmyname | acoles: maybe? | 22:00 |
| clayg | notmyname: oh oh oh - S3! | 22:00 |
| notmyname | thanks for coming and helping | 22:00 |
| acoles | notmyname: hope it doesnt conflict | 22:00 |
| notmyname | :-) | 22:00 |
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| torgomatic | S4! | 22:00 |
| notmyname | thanks for working on swift | 22:00 |
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| notmyname | #endmeeting | 22:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 14 22:00:23 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2015/swift.2015-10-14-21.00.html | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2015/swift.2015-10-14-21.00.txt | 22:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2015/swift.2015-10-14-21.00.log.html | 22:00 |
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