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| nati2 | Hi all | 16:01 |
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| bcwaldon | hello! | 16:01 |
| dwalleck | Howdy! | 16:01 |
| nati2 | hi bcwaldon | 16:01 |
| bcwaldon | westmaas is here, too, just busy talking to somebody | 16:01 |
| nati2 | :bcwaldon gotcha | 16:02 |
| dwalleck | Gigi is out of town today, so it's just myself and KenWhite-RAX from San Antonio | 16:02 |
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| rohitk | Hi stackers! | 16:02 |
| nati2 | dwalleck: Yes I know. Gigi is coming SF office | 16:03 |
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| nati2 | rohitk: hi rohit | 16:03 |
| nati2 | ok let's get started | 16:04 |
| rohitk | yes! | 16:05 |
| rohitk | im in a different timezone :-) | 16:05 |
| nati2 | I wanna report unit test progress | 16:06 |
| nati2 | Our team almost finished unit test working. And code is now on our repos. https://github.com/ntt-pf-lab/nova/branches | 16:06 |
| nati2 | My team starts bug fixing work | 16:06 |
| bcwaldon | #startmeeting | 16:06 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 2 16:06:52 2011 UTC. The chair is bcwaldon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 16:06 |
| nati2 | bcwaldon: thanks | 16:07 |
| bcwaldon | no problem :) | 16:07 |
| nati2 | Our team reported 49 bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-qa/+bugs?search=Search&field.bug_reporter=nati-ueno | 16:07 |
| bcwaldon | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-qa/+bugs?search=Search&field.bug_reporter=nati-ueno | 16:07 |
| nati2 | Some of it is already fixed for essex but not for diablo. I'll reqeust backport merge them in next week. | 16:07 |
| nati2 | That's all from me :) Any questions for unit testing. | 16:08 |
| nati2 | Our team almost finished unit test working. And code is now on our repos. https://github.com/ntt-pf-lab/nova/branches (including about 1400 test cases) #paste again | 16:09 |
| bcwaldon | #link https://github.com/ntt-pf-lab/nova/branches | 16:09 |
| nati2 | ok let's go to next topic. bcwaldon: Thanks again | 16:10 |
| nati2 | #topic integration-tests | 16:10 |
| nati2 | : westmaas would you report current progress? | 16:10 |
| dwalleck | westmaas: Are you there? Or do you want me to give the update? | 16:10 |
| westmaas | nati2: sure thing | 16:10 |
| westmaas | dwalleck: please do | 16:10 |
| dwalleck | Sure. This morning I merge propped the tests from the Zodiac suite into the integration suite | 16:11 |
| nati2 | dwalleck++ | 16:11 |
| dwalleck | There's still quite a few more to bring in, but I ran out of time :) | 16:11 |
| bcwaldon | dwalleck: I'll be looking at your review later today | 16:11 |
| dwalleck | I just wanted to make sure I got something in before the meeting today | 16:12 |
| dwalleck | bcwaldon: sounds good | 16:12 |
| westmaas | definitely looking for input on how this merge lines up with the goals I outlined and rohit added to | 16:12 |
| KenWhite-RAX | dwalleck: do you have a count on how many you merged? | 16:13 |
| dwalleck | Definitely. There's also some directory shifting that I still may want to do. I'll have to talk with bcwaldon and westmaas | 16:13 |
| bcwaldon | I'll be here :) I definitely want that done asap | 16:13 |
| dwalleck | KenWhite-Rax: I think it ended up being about 25? And another 35 are pending | 16:14 |
| KenWhite-RAX | dwalleck: thanks | 16:14 |
| rohitk | dwalleck: I would like to contribute to the o-i-t branch, but i don't think the tests are in 'runnable' state, we now have kong+zodiac style tests right? Can we zero in on zodiac style tests | 16:15 |
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| donaldngo_hp | i had to do quite a bit of modifications to get the kong tests to run on our system | 16:16 |
| dwalleck | rohitk: I'm fine with that. I verified this morning that they were runnable via nose this morning (given that you have a valid config file) | 16:16 |
| dwalleck | Which is just an auth endpoint and some valid image/flavor ids | 16:16 |
| dwalleck | Right now it also assumes you are using keystone for auth, but I can easily add a feature flag to make that switchable | 16:17 |
| nati2 | dwalleck: Do you mean , we can use nose style for test writing? | 16:17 |
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| dwalleck | nati: You could, but I meant that using the nosetest runner, my tests work (I think nose is the test runner for everything under the hood) | 16:18 |
| dwalleck | I can add to the README and send an email with more details once the inital commit gets hammered out | 16:18 |
| dwalleck | westmaas, bcwaldon: Does that sound sane? | 16:19 |
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| bcwaldon | yeah, we can get rid of run_tests | 16:19 |
| rohitk | dwalleck: after your review #1251 gets merged how can I run the zodiac tests | 16:19 |
| bcwaldon | dwalleck: we do need to figure out test skipping based on config variables, though | 16:19 |
| westmaas | run_tests.sh nova should do it, It hink | 16:19 |
| nati2_ | dwalleck: gotcha thanks | 16:20 |
| rohitk | ok | 16:20 |
| dwalleck | bcwaldon: Can do | 16:20 |
| westmaas | I think we still might have value in the runner, depending on how we set up options and the like | 16:20 |
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| westmaas | but I'm not married to that notion | 16:20 |
| nati2_ | do we have any coding standard for integration-test tool? something like pep8 | 16:21 |
| bcwaldon | we do need to commit to one or the other, though | 16:21 |
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| rohitk | nati2_: I think any openstack python code must comply with pep8 | 16:21 |
| bcwaldon | now that I think about it, nose won't be good enough for us if we want to support tags like we have from kong | 16:21 |
| dwalleck | nati2_: I started a HACKING file for that. There was a bit of controversy, so I trimmed it down a bit | 16:21 |
| dwalleck | bcwaldon: Nose supports tags | 16:22 |
| nati2_ | dwalleck: rohitk: gotcha thanks | 16:22 |
| bcwaldon | dwalleck: ah, excellent, I'll talk to you later about that then | 16:22 |
| dwalleck | I think nose is the under the hood testrunner for kong | 16:22 |
| dwalleck | Sounds good | 16:22 |
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| westmaas | nati2_: we should use pep8, that should get added to the hacking file | 16:23 |
| bcwaldon | westmaas: ++ | 16:23 |
| westmaas | nati2_: but we don't gate on that yet, I don't think | 16:23 |
| westmaas | we can ask monty to set that up for us once we are sure there are no errors | 16:23 |
| nati2_ | So current merge request should do pep8 also #link https://review.openstack.org/#patch,sidebyside,1251,2,nova/services/nova/json/images_json_client.py | 16:24 |
| nati2_ | westmaas: cool | 16:24 |
| bcwaldon | westmaas: do you want me to get rid of all the existing pep8 errors and lock that down? | 16:24 |
| westmaas | bcwaldon: sure | 16:24 |
| bcwaldon | #action bcwaldon to establish pep8 gating on master | 16:24 |
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| westmaas | and I'd like comments from everyone on dwalleck's merge prop, whether you are core or not, thanks! | 16:25 |
| westmaas | ok, so I was supposed to make a poll last week | 16:25 |
| westmaas | for the name of these tests | 16:26 |
| bcwaldon | #topic Name Change | 16:26 |
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| westmaas | I will actually do that today | 16:26 |
| rohitk | westmaas: how will the kong+stacktester configs and other core stuff be affected after zodiac merge? asking so that i can be clear what kind of tests the branch should produce | 16:26 |
| bcwaldon | #action westmaas to send out poll for changing the suite name | 16:26 |
| rohitk | in the current o-i-t branch, like will kong/ be removed? | 16:26 |
| westmaas | rohitk: that merge only adds, so nothing should change | 16:26 |
| westmaas | rohitk: I don't want to remove until we move the tests over | 16:27 |
| westmaas | rohitk: does that seem reasonable? | 16:27 |
| rohitk | westmaas: yup | 16:27 |
| westmaas | rohitk: at that point we should just go through the gong tests and pull tests over and delete them until there are none left in kong, or at least only ones that we don't want to support | 16:27 |
| rohitk | westmaas: got it but i was also thinking about config.py and other stacktester stuff, will there be rewrite/merge/replace-with-zodiac for such things too | 16:29 |
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| westmaas | rohitk: there should be, yes. however we want to get in the config and tagging should be done next | 16:29 |
| dwalleck | rohitk: I think that merge should be very smooth | 16:29 |
| rohitk | westmaas: dwalleck: will stay updated with the merges, thanks | 16:30 |
| donaldngo_hp | are we having one config file for both kong and zodiac? | 16:30 |
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| nati2_ | donaldngo_hp: for next step. I suppose | 16:31 |
| westmaas | donaldngo_hp: yep, with kong directory just going away as quickly as possible | 16:31 |
| dwalleck | donaldngo: That would be the goal. The long term goal is that everything is quickly merged | 16:31 |
| nati2_ | dwalleck++ | 16:31 |
| donaldngo_hp | cool | 16:32 |
| nati2_ | Our team want to start adding new test cases for integration-tests | 16:32 |
| nati2_ | Is there anybody goint to add new test cases now? | 16:32 |
| nati2_ | We wanna use zodiac now. Do you have comment on that? | 16:32 |
| dwalleck | nati2_: myself and my team are going to be adding many in the next weeks | 16:32 |
| nati2_ | dwalleck: Could you share the list in order to avoid depilation works? | 16:33 |
| rohitk | nati2_ ++ | 16:33 |
| nati2_ | dwalleck: and which test framework will you use? | 16:33 |
| dwalleck | nati2_: Sure. Actually, westmaas had an idea to use bugs against the openstack-integration-test project to track test development | 16:34 |
| dwalleck | Which could be another possibility | 16:34 |
| nati2_ | ah it is cool | 16:34 |
| rohitk | dwalleck: I think thats consistent with the way nati2_ is doing for unit-tests | 16:34 |
| dwalleck | nati2_: I'll be developing under what was the zodiac tests. The goal is to move anything that was in kong over | 16:34 |
| nati2_ | dwalleck: ok would you report bug? | 16:35 |
| dwalleck | And add many additional things. nati2_: Sure. I'll have them in by end of tomorrow. | 16:35 |
| nati2_ | Ah, if all of new test implementer will use zodiac, how about make zodiac offical one? | 16:35 |
| nati2_ | and all test will be merged for zodiac style | 16:36 |
| rohitk | dwalleck: If I want to write a test case for o-i-t (after zodiac merge), am I right by saying only the relative imports of the configs, clients and other stuff will change? | 16:36 |
| rohitk | and the rest of the style- requests, object creation would stay same? | 16:36 |
| dwalleck | rohtik: That should be right. The interfaces for the services shouldn't be changing really | 16:37 |
| dwalleck | Just some possible shuffling of directory structure and naming | 16:37 |
| rohitk | dwalleck: awesome | 16:37 |
| KenWhite-RAX | nati2_: ++ | 16:37 |
| dwalleck | And if we can get enough feedback, I'd love to get that sorted out as fast as possible so we can reach a point of architecture stability | 16:38 |
| nati2_ | ok let's vote. please #agreed for zodiac as openstack-qa official framework. | 16:38 |
| rohitk | #agree (agreed in the last meeting too) | 16:38 |
| nati2_ | #agree | 16:39 |
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| dwalleck | #agree | 16:39 |
| KenWhite-RAX | #agree | 16:39 |
| nati2_ | donaldngo_hp: Do you have any thought> | 16:39 |
| donaldngo_hp | we are merging kong into zodiac right? | 16:39 |
| bcwaldon | #disagree | 16:39 |
| donaldngo_hp | so zodiac is just the new name for the combined framework? | 16:40 |
| bcwaldon | hold on, yeah, what are we agreeing on here? | 16:40 |
| dwalleck | donaldngo_hp: No, that's not the name of the final suite | 16:40 |
| nati2_ | I think if new test implementer will use zodiac, let's zodiac style as default style | 16:41 |
| donaldngo_hp | so what are we voting on ? | 16:41 |
| dwalleck | I would say before everyone votes, take a look at the merge prop first | 16:41 |
| rohitk | i agreed for the test writing style :-) | 16:41 |
| bcwaldon | dwalleck: ++ that's why I #disagree | 16:41 |
| dwalleck | Make sure this is what you want to sign up for | 16:41 |
| westmaas | I think we can agree that what gets merged is the example and path we should follow | 16:41 |
| westmaas | dwalleck++ | 16:41 |
| nati2_ | ok let's vote next meeting | 16:42 |
| dwalleck | Because once I get started, I'm running :D | 16:42 |
| nati2_ | Until next meeting, each member should check the merge prop | 16:42 |
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| westmaas | sounds good | 16:43 |
| dwalleck | And make comments, and we can discuss this on the mailing list as well | 16:43 |
| nati2_ | gotcha | 16:43 |
| donaldngo_hp | cool | 16:43 |
| nati2_ | OK any other topics for integration tests? | 16:44 |
| rohitk | we should be integrating the framework than just copying over | 16:44 |
| dwalleck | rohitk: Right | 16:44 |
| nati2_ | rohitk: yes I agree | 16:44 |
| dwalleck | That's the plan | 16:44 |
| nati2_ | If we can decide test framework, it will be very effective. | 16:45 |
| donaldngo_hp | would it make sense to start from a single test and have everyone get on board with what there invidual needs are | 16:45 |
| nati2_ | donaldngo_hp: Yes it make sence. So this is long time goal. | 16:45 |
| rohitk | I just feel the service layer from zodiac is a good feature for flexibility into the o-i-t | 16:46 |
| bcwaldon | well we've already proposed several tests w/ this merge prop, so it's *not* long term | 16:46 |
| donaldngo_hp | ive only played with the kong tests but i had to do a lot of changes like reworking the endpoint calls so that it uses an ssl | 16:46 |
| nati2_ | donaldngo_hp: And also, we should have official recommendations for new test implementer. | 16:46 |
| donaldngo_hp | i suggest we start with a simple test like the swift auth call to get the token and have that as the first test inside this "framework" | 16:47 |
| donaldngo_hp | then have everyone look at what we have and decide on what we need like config files, nameing conventions, coding style ect | 16:47 |
| donaldngo_hp | once we all agree then its a checking, review, drop and run type of framework | 16:48 |
| donaldngo_hp | what do you guys think? | 16:48 |
| nati2_ | donaldngo_hp: I think you can see the simple example on each test frameworks. | 16:48 |
| donaldngo_hp | i can see the examples but my concern is that we want to make everyone happy | 16:49 |
| donaldngo_hp | and having so much tests being merged and added just doesnt make it easy | 16:49 |
| nati2_ | donaldngo_hp: IMO, Test implementer's will is most important | 16:50 |
| donaldngo_hp | what's test implementer? | 16:50 |
| nati2_ | donaldngo_hp: test senarios | 16:50 |
| westmaas | dwalleck: can you identify 1-5 tests that highlight the important parts of your proposal? | 16:50 |
| rohitk | nati2_++, If I can design a complex integration test quickly and easily then i have the vote for the framework | 16:51 |
| dwalleck | westmaas: Sure. Want me to just send that out to the list with some explanation? | 16:51 |
| westmaas | well I think donaldngo_hp would prefer those be the only tests in this particular merge prop, since the goal here is to define what we will use for everything else | 16:51 |
| westmaas | we don't necessarily have to do it that way, but it might focus the discussion a bit | 16:52 |
| dwalleck | Okay, I can do that. I'll pull all tests from my merge prop except for those | 16:52 |
| westmaas | nati2_: do you buy that? | 16:52 |
| dwalleck | I'll get that done today and then send something out when it's done | 16:52 |
| nati2_ | westmaas: gotcha | 16:53 |
| westmaas | donaldngo_hp: work for you? | 16:53 |
| donaldngo_hp | sounds good | 16:53 |
| westmaas | great | 16:54 |
| westmaas | thanks dwalleck! | 16:54 |
| nati2_ | dwalleck++ | 16:54 |
| dwalleck | westmaas: No problem. I'll hustle | 16:54 |
| nati2_ | Ok any other topics for integration-tests? | 16:54 |
| westmaas | what names should be on the poll I create later? | 16:54 |
| westmaas | I've heard... | 16:55 |
| westmaas | openstack-functional-tests | 16:55 |
| westmaas | kong | 16:55 |
| westmaas | stackmonkey | 16:55 |
| nati2_ | StackTester ? | 16:55 |
| westmaas | stacktester | 16:55 |
| donaldngo_hp | openstack-storm | 16:55 |
| westmaas | openstack-storm | 16:55 |
| bcwaldon | storm is an awesome name | 16:55 |
| nati2_ | storm++ | 16:55 |
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| bcwaldon | just 'storm', not openstack-storm | 16:56 |
| westmaas | ok, will make the poll right after lunch | 16:56 |
| bcwaldon | or thunder | 16:56 |
| bcwaldon | damn | 16:56 |
| westmaas | anything else? | 16:56 |
| bcwaldon | I'll get back to you | 16:56 |
| rohitk | openstack-storm sounds like a cool 'project' name | 16:56 |
| rohitk | we have horizon now | 16:56 |
| bcwaldon | tsuname | 16:56 |
| bcwaldon | tsunami | 16:56 |
| nati2_ | We should construct a strong openstack which win the storm :) | 16:56 |
| nati2_ | Ahh, tsunami is very horrible... personally, i don't see the world | 16:57 |
| rohitk | stacktester sounds simple and relevant | 16:57 |
| bcwaldon | yeah, maybe not that one | 16:57 |
| rohitk | openstacktester would be good but looong | 16:58 |
| donaldngo_hp | storm is cool it relates to cloud computing. i guess we have to take it to a vote | 16:58 |
| rohitk | vote, vote, poll! | 16:58 |
| nati2_ | yep storm is cool :) Short | 16:58 |
| westmaas | will make it soon promise! | 16:58 |
| nati2_ | and cool | 16:58 |
| westmaas | ready to end? | 16:58 |
| nati2_ | yep | 16:58 |
| bcwaldon | #endmeeting | 16:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 2 16:58:46 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-11-02-16.06.html | 16:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-11-02-16.06.txt | 16:58 |
| nati2_ | Thanks all!! | 16:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-11-02-16.06.log.html | 16:58 |
| westmaas | thanks :) | 16:58 |
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| rohitk | cheers all! | 16:58 |
| dwalleck | thanks everyone! | 16:59 |
| donaldngo_hp | thank you | 16:59 |
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| debo_os | #startmeeting | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 2 21:00:26 2011 UTC. The chair is debo_os. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 21:00 |
| debo_os | #topic Donabe | 21:00 |
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| debo_os | hi | 21:01 |
| debo_os | I guess everyone is busy at UDS this week | 21:02 |
| zykes- | ;p | 21:02 |
| zykes- | debo_os: do you know where to go to get a "skeleton" for a project ? | 21:02 |
| glenc_ | howdy | 21:02 |
| debo_os | I am actually in the oVirt workshop :) | 21:02 |
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| debo_os | lp:donabe | 21:02 |
| zykes- | i've tried asking x times but noone seems to be wanting to answrer | 21:03 |
| debo_os | where did you ask? | 21:03 |
| zykes- | #openstack-dev | 21:03 |
| debo_os | Maybe I missed your emails ..... sincerely apologize | 21:03 |
| zykes- | i haven't emailed, just irc | 21:03 |
| debo_os | brb in 1min | 21:04 |
| zykes- | i'm playing around with a idea for a dns service kind of like the reddwarf project just for spawning dns instances instead for tenants and on public networks | 21:04 |
| debo_os | sorrry | 21:07 |
| debo_os | back | 21:07 |
| debo_os | ok ... so since last time I looked at the db models | 21:07 |
| debo_os | I think 2 DBs seem good - neo4j and mongo | 21:07 |
| zykes- | debo_os: for ? | 21:08 |
| debo_os | to store the container descriptions | 21:08 |
| zykes- | ah | 21:08 |
| debo_os | if you remember donabe is a container graph | 21:08 |
| zykes- | i was talking about another thing ;) | 21:08 |
| debo_os | so tenants have containers | 21:08 |
| debo_os | oh sorry I was out for 1min ... | 21:09 |
| debo_os | were we on dns service? | 21:09 |
| zykes- | i'm just thinking of a addition to quantum / melange | 21:09 |
| debo_os | the dns service? | 21:09 |
| zykes- | yeah | 21:10 |
| debo_os | It should ideally be in melange | 21:10 |
| debo_os | if you had to make a choice | 21:10 |
| debo_os | or a separate one | 21:10 |
| debo_os | thats just a gut feel | 21:10 |
| debo_os | I guess we dont have much to talk about Donabe then | 21:10 |
| debo_os | Glen? | 21:11 |
| debo_os | then we can go to dns service stuff and end the donabe meeting | 21:11 |
| glenc | i'm cool - I have to leave soon anyway for an appointment | 21:12 |
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| debo_os | ok | 21:12 |
| debo_os | #endmeeting | 21:12 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 2 21:12:21 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:12 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-11-02-21.00.html | 21:12 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-11-02-21.00.txt | 21:12 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-11-02-21.00.log.html | 21:12 |
| zykes- | i was more thinking of a reddwarf alike service where you can make openvz instances with powerdns in them and deploy to tenant networks for people who want that and also have public instances for public records | 21:13 |
| zykes- | i think that could be pretty ok for many situations, like autogenerating dns recoreds like <inst>.<tenant>.supercloud.com | 21:14 |
| zykes- | any suggestions from you netfolks + | 21:15 |
| zykes- | debo_os: or a bad idea ? | 21:17 |
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