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| sandywalsh | Orchestration meeting | 17:00 |
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| sandywalsh | #startmeeting | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 1 17:00:52 2011 UTC. The chair is sandywalsh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 17:00 |
| sandywalsh | #topic plead forgiveness | 17:01 |
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| sandywalsh | :) | 17:01 |
| sandywalsh | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/Orchestration | 17:01 |
| maoy | Hello | 17:01 |
| sandywalsh | o/ | 17:02 |
| sandywalsh | this will be a short meeting I think | 17:02 |
| sandywalsh | so, I haven't had a lot of time to get any prep done | 17:03 |
| sandywalsh | (specifically the video) | 17:03 |
| maoy | that's fine by me, since I watched your talk.. | 17:03 |
| sandywalsh | but regardless there are two issues I think (and please jump in to correct me) | 17:03 |
| sandywalsh | 1. the tactical issues | 17:04 |
| sandywalsh | a. how to get events back to the orchestration layer from the services | 17:04 |
| sandywalsh | b. where the orchestration service lives (in scheduler?) | 17:04 |
| sandywalsh | and 2. what is the strategic approach to orchestration | 17:04 |
| sandywalsh | a. a trivial state machine | 17:05 |
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| sandywalsh | b. a more complex state machine (petri) | 17:05 |
| sandywalsh | c. another service (some pre-existing library) | 17:05 |
| sandywalsh | d. other? | 17:05 |
| sandywalsh | maoy, I think this is where your paper comes in | 17:05 |
| sandywalsh | (which I have to apologize for, I haven't read yet, but it's at the top of my stack) | 17:06 |
| sandywalsh | In the link I have a list of what I think are tactical items | 17:06 |
| maoy | great. i was about to say that the paper is quite relevant here. | 17:06 |
| sandywalsh | which I think are applicable regardless of the strategic approach | 17:06 |
| sandywalsh | good ... I'm keen to read it. I'll try to get some meaningful feedback on it by next meeting | 17:07 |
| maoy | I think that the orchestration might make more sense to be below the scheduler. | 17:07 |
| maoy | sandy, i'm also looking at petri net. | 17:08 |
| sandywalsh | ok, so scheduler talks to orchestration and steps out of the way? | 17:08 |
| sandywalsh | I sort of envisioned orchestration talking to scheduler, but you suggest the other way around? | 17:09 |
| maoy | to me it depends on how we define what exactly the orchestration layer does | 17:10 |
| sandywalsh | well, maoy if you can perhaps create a wiki page to summarize your idea (nothing fancy), we can comment on it there? | 17:10 |
| maoy | sure | 17:10 |
| maoy | i'll work on that | 17:10 |
| sandywalsh | excellent | 17:10 |
| maoy | i have a question on the petri net | 17:11 |
| sandywalsh | we've started considering what it would take to do simple retry, so hopefully that will give us a little bit of the tactical stuff we need | 17:11 |
| sandywalsh | sure | 17:11 |
| vladimir3p | Hi All, Sorry for being late and you probably already discussed it, but I guess we need to divide it into several parts, where one of them - return status over AMQP is kind of related to Orchestrator, but not really the orchestrator | 17:11 |
| vladimir3p | to me it seems like the orchestrator should be the one who requests from scheduler what to do ... | 17:12 |
| maoy | petrinet is a great way to model concurrent processes. i'm just curious after the modeling what could we do with it | 17:12 |
| sandywalsh | vladimir3p, yes, I outlined one suggestion in the agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/Orchestration | 17:12 |
| sandywalsh | maoy, can you give an example? | 17:12 |
| sandywalsh | vladimir3p, I think Orch should ask of the scheduler, but maoy is going to propose an alternative approach. | 17:13 |
| vladimir3p | ah, sorry. I was definitely late for this meting :-) | 17:14 |
| maoy | i'm completely unfamiliar with celery and the other tool you mentioned in the talk, but I am wondering what benefit we have with the modeling effort | 17:14 |
| sandywalsh | vladimir3p, np | 17:14 |
| sandywalsh | maoy, from the feedback I got, we don't want to use celery tasks. | 17:14 |
| maoy | sandy and vlad, I think we might have a similar idea, but use different understanding in the terminologies, esp on "orchestration" | 17:15 |
| sandywalsh | quite likely | 17:15 |
| vladimir3p | yep | 17:15 |
| maoy | ok. | 17:15 |
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| sandywalsh | still, write up your suggestion and we'll make sure we're on the same page | 17:16 |
| maoy | absolutely | 17:16 |
| sandywalsh | #action maoy to write up his suggestions for how the orch service works with the scheduler (and other services) | 17:16 |
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| maoy | do we deal with high availability issues here? | 17:17 |
| sandywalsh | maoy, my ideas for using petri net was simply to be a "better state machine". There were no other immediate plans from there. Just generic hooks to the outside world | 17:17 |
| maoy | e.g. the orchestrator crashes. | 17:17 |
| maoy | got it | 17:17 |
| sandywalsh | maoy, that's a big issue ... we're running into that now with the scheduler. How do synchronize state when there are many concurrent workers | 17:18 |
| sandywalsh | Master-Slave works great for these problems since there's only one decision maker. But it's a single point of failure | 17:18 |
| maoy | in the paper, we use ZooKeeper who provides a quorum-based highly available storage and coordination service | 17:18 |
| sandywalsh | Workers are great for scalability, but only when the tasks can be idempotent and can be done in parallel. Scheduling/State-management doesn't seem to be one of those problems. | 17:19 |
| maoy | agreed. | 17:19 |
| sandywalsh | #action sandy to learn about ZooKeeper | 17:19 |
| vladimir3p | vlad | 17:20 |
| vladimir3p | oops :-) sorry | 17:20 |
| sandywalsh | ok ... I think those are two good starts. Ideally for next meeting we should be in some agreement how to tackle the concurrency problem. | 17:20 |
| maoy | in the paper, we addressed 4 problems: | 17:21 |
| sandywalsh | let's keep the discussion going on the mailing list. If zookeeper looks promising perhaps we work it into the tactical parts? | 17:21 |
| sandywalsh | maoy, carry on ... | 17:21 |
| maoy | concurrency, high availability, unexpected errors during worker execution, and imposing policies to prevent mis-operations | 17:22 |
| maoy | we can probably ignore the 4th one | 17:22 |
| sandywalsh | great ... that's the stuff we need to nail down. | 17:22 |
| maoy | and see if the ideas in the others can be applied in nova in an non-disruptive way | 17:22 |
| sandywalsh | #action give maoy some good feedback on his paper | 17:23 |
| vladimir3p | a quick question - do you plan to apply same principles of "opertation" orchestration not only for between scheduler-compute/volume nodes, but between API nodes - scheduler? | 17:23 |
| sandywalsh | #link http://dl.dropbox.com/u/166877/CloudTransaction.pdf | 17:23 |
| sandywalsh | vladimir3p, can you give an example? | 17:23 |
| vladimir3p | when you create bunch of instances the call goes to scheduler | 17:24 |
| vladimir3p | but if it was not accepted/received you probably want to retry it | 17:24 |
| vladimir3p | especially if we have multiple schedulers | 17:24 |
| vladimir3p | actually, it applies to any operation performed over AMQP | 17:24 |
| maoy | is AMQP lossy? | 17:25 |
| maoy | i'm not very familiar with it.. sorry | 17:25 |
| vladimir3p | it may stuck there | 17:25 |
| maoy | this is undesirable.. | 17:26 |
| vladimir3p | I was thinking of case when particular scheduler accepted request but crashed... | 17:26 |
| vladimir3p | (as an example) | 17:26 |
| maoy | seems like either we can retry and make scheduling job idempotent, or to fix amqp.. | 17:28 |
| sandywalsh | my assumption was the first step was to create the workflow and that would get picked up by orch layer and worked on from there. | 17:28 |
| vladimir3p | ok, np | 17:29 |
| sandywalsh | ok, well guys I think we have a good start here. Let's keep the discussion going on the ML once we review all the materials. | 17:29 |
| maoy | great | 17:29 |
| sandywalsh | cool? | 17:29 |
| vladimir3p | fine | 17:30 |
| maoy | i'll put up a wiki | 17:30 |
| sandywalsh | excellent | 17:30 |
| sandywalsh | ... thanks for your time guys | 17:30 |
| maoy | my idea is still quite rough since I don't know nova that well | 17:30 |
| vladimir3p | sandy, just to make sure - the same error/reply logic we could make "generic" | 17:30 |
| maoy | but you guys will help me. :) | 17:30 |
| vladimir3p | and try to apply it for API-sched communications | 17:30 |
| vladimir3p | and it willbe kind of an essential part of orch, but not really the orch | 17:31 |
| sandywalsh | yes, makes sense | 17:31 |
| sandywalsh | #endmeeting | 17:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Openstack Meetings: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/" | 17:32 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 1 17:32:36 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-11-01-17.00.html | 17:32 |
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| robertn | Nym@n4N3tw0rks | 17:36 |
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| sandywalsh | robertn, time for a new password? | 17:40 |
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| vladimir3p | :-) | 17:41 |
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| zns | #startmeeting Keystone Team Meeting | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 1 18:00:48 2011 UTC. The chair is zns. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 18:00 |
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| zns | Let me know if you're here for the Keystone meeting. | 18:02 |
| joesavak | here | 18:02 |
| zns | joesavak: anything you want to log for the record? I'll also stay online in case anyone shows up. | 18:04 |
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| joesavak | zns: We are looking into RBAC design and would appreciate any community feedback. The blueprint is at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/rbac-keystone | 18:05 |
| zns | joesavak: thanks. | 18:07 |
| zns | I've also heard through the grapevine that some folks are still having challenges running the Diablo branch. I'm trying to dig in to the details to see if we have anything to fix and we'll backport as soon as we identify any real issues blocking Diablo deploys. | 18:07 |
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| zns | joesavak: Looks like nobody here outside of the core team. Feel free to leave. I'll hang around in case anyone shows up with questions. | 18:19 |
| joesavak | zns: will do. Thanks | 18:19 |
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| robertn | no kidding...doing that now | 18:37 |
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| zns | #endmeeting | 18:45 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 1 18:45:10 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:45 |
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| jbryce | hi | 20:00 |
| ttx | are we having a meeting today ? | 20:00 |
| zns | hi | 20:00 |
| jbryce | nothing made it onto the agenda for today and we've got a few of you at uds so i don't know if it makes sense | 20:01 |
| ttx | (vishy, jaypipes, mtaylor are at UDS with me... somewhere) | 20:01 |
| vishy | i'm here | 20:01 |
| jaypipes | ttx: here. | 20:01 |
| notmyname | here | 20:01 |
| ewanmellor | Present | 20:01 |
| jbryce | well that's 7 | 20:01 |
| ttx | mtaylor is not very far away from me, if he is required | 20:01 |
| pvo | o/ | 20:02 |
| jbryce | #startmeeting | 20:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 1 20:02:01 2011 UTC. The chair is jbryce. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 20:02 |
| jbryce | does anyone have anything they want to cover today? | 20:02 |
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| jbryce | ok | 20:04 |
| jaypipes | not from me. | 20:04 |
| pvo | nope | 20:04 |
| ttx | nope | 20:04 |
| notmyname | stuff always comes up, but it's not worth discussing if we don't have a goal | 20:04 |
| jbryce | all right. does any object to adjourning early? | 20:05 |
| mtaylor | o/ | 20:05 |
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| pvo | later all | 20:05 |
| mtaylor | nope | 20:05 |
| mtaylor | I don't object | 20:05 |
| zns | ciao. | 20:05 |
| mtaylor | sorry - I was just saying I was here | 20:05 |
| mtaylor | but now everyone's leaving | 20:05 |
| * mtaylor sniffs | 20:05 | |
| * anotherjesse here | 20:05 | |
| jbryce | mtaylor: you cleared the room | 20:05 |
| mtaylor | jbryce: I'm going to blame anotherjesse | 20:06 |
| anotherjesse | mtaylor: it is ALWAYS MY FAULT :) | 20:06 |
| mtaylor | anotherjesse: well, it's either yours or mine | 20:06 |
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| anotherjesse | if we are both here then we can't blame each other … maybe I should /nick anotherdeveloper and so we can blame me now | 20:07 |
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| notmyname | several other people have joined | 20:07 |
| notmyname | do they have something that needs to be covered? | 20:08 |
| jbryce | mtaylor, anotherjesse: either of you have something to cover? | 20:08 |
| notmyname | I was also thinking about non-ppb people | 20:08 |
| anotherjesse | jbryce: I'm good | 20:08 |
| ttx | Weekly release meeting in 50min. See you there :) | 20:09 |
| mtaylor | jbryce: nope | 20:09 |
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| jbryce | ok. last call for any topics from anyone | 20:10 |
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| jbryce | thanks everyone | 20:11 |
| jbryce | #endmeeting | 20:11 |
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| notmyname | /shortestemeetingever | 20:11 |
| ttx | see you in a bit | 20:12 |
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| * ttx waves from UDS at Orlando | 20:59 | |
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| ttx | zns, notmyname, jaypipes, vishy, devcamcar: around ? | 20:59 |
| wwkeyboard | ttx: a conference with connectivity?! | 21:00 |
| ttx | wwkeyboard: also known as UDS. | 21:00 |
| ttx | wwkeyboard: they have a pretty good setup here | 21:01 |
| jmckenty | hi | 21:01 |
| jmckenty | Is it time? | 21:01 |
| wwkeyboard | ttx: glad to hear it | 21:01 |
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| ttx | it's time for the general meeting. PPB was last hour, if that's what you're looking for | 21:01 |
| ttx | waiting for PTLs to show up | 21:01 |
| jmckenty | ah, someone should fix the calfeeds then | 21:01 |
| jmckenty | they list PPB as being 2pm today for some reason | 21:02 |
| devcamcar | ttx: o/ | 21:02 |
| jmckenty | and 1pm next week | 21:02 |
| ttx | jmckenty: the calfeeds are alright to me | 21:02 |
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| jmckenty | weird | 21:02 |
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| zns | hi | 21:03 |
| ttx | zns, notmyname, jaypipes, vishy: ? | 21:03 |
| Vek | jmckenty: DST skew, perhaps? | 21:03 |
| vishy | here | 21:03 |
| zns | Ay! | 21:03 |
| notmyname | here | 21:03 |
| ttx | ok, let's statr | 21:03 |
| jmckenty | Vek, yeah, likely. | 21:03 |
| ttx | start, even | 21:03 |
| ttx | #startmeeting | 21:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 1 21:03:59 2011 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 21:04 |
| ttx | Welcome everyone to the weekly general meeting... Today's agenda is at: | 21:04 |
| ttx | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/TeamMeeting | 21:04 |
| ttx | So today I'd like to focus project status topics on essex-1 | 21:04 |
| ttx | ...since we have only one week left before that milestone | 21:04 |
| ttx | #topic Keystone status | 21:04 |
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| ttx | network is actually better here than at home. | 21:04 |
| ttx | zns: Looking at: | 21:05 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/essex-1 | 21:05 |
| ttx | zns: I'd like to review the status of the 5 blueprints in there | 21:05 |
| zns | Action items from last week I think closed. Did we miss anything? | 21:05 |
| ttx | making sure they are all relevant to essex-1 and their status correct ? | 21:05 |
| ttx | zns: yes, action items were covered | 21:05 |
| zns | Yes. | 21:06 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/keystone-documentation | 21:06 |
| ttx | is that actually something that can be "completed" ? | 21:06 |
| ttx | i.e. is there a clear target ? | 21:06 |
| zns | I just got off the phone with some of the team working on the docs. We are making good progress and will continue driving this to support adopters and intewgrators. | 21:06 |
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| ttx | zns: does it make sense to target it to a specific milestone, though ? | 21:07 |
| zns | I think it can be completed, but there is no clear target. | 21:07 |
| ttx | hmm, ok. | 21:07 |
| ttx | might need to push to some other milestone then | 21:07 |
| annegentle | I believe that the cleanup and segmentation can be called completed but yes it is ongoing work | 21:07 |
| zns | The intention is that we are focusing much of our energies in this milestone on it. | 21:07 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/2-way-ssl | 21:07 |
| ttx | is that one close to be completed, you think ? | 21:08 |
| zns | Submitted and worked on by HP. THey've done a nice job. We've validating the testing and will approve soon. | 21:08 |
| zns | Code complete. | 21:08 |
| ttx | ok | 21:08 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/support-multiple-credentials | 21:08 |
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| ttx | (I'll adjust statuses where needed) | 21:08 |
| zns | In progress and on track. | 21:08 |
| ttx | so the code should land any time now ? | 21:09 |
| zns | Yes. | 21:09 |
| ttx | zns: ideally we would branch miletsone-proposed next Tuesday | 21:09 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/keystone-swift-acls | 21:09 |
| zns | For the previous one: https://review.openstack.org/#change,1221 | 21:09 |
| ttx | ack | 21:09 |
| jrouault | update, keystone swift acls will likely hit essex 2 | 21:10 |
| zns | On ACLs, I don't know status yet. I'll have to check with HP (unless Liem or Jason are here?) | 21:10 |
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| ttx | ok, will adjust | 21:10 |
| jrouault | just chimed in | 21:10 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/database-migrations | 21:10 |
| zns | jrouault: Hi! Thanks. | 21:10 |
| zns | https://review.openstack.org/#change,1200 | 21:10 |
| ttx | cool. | 21:10 |
| ttx | zns: Anything else ? | 21:10 |
| zns | ttx: that's for database-migrations. Under review. | 21:10 |
| ttx | Did you make progress on the stable/diablo branch lots of people have asked for ? | 21:11 |
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| zns | One quick note; we've heard from people they need help with integration. Let us know or post bugs! We're here to help. | 21:11 |
| ttx | Raise your hand if you have questions on Keystone... | 21:11 |
| vishy | zns: i thought chmouel had acls working | 21:11 |
| jmckenty | zns: I'll have Mandell ping you, we've had issues | 21:11 |
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| zns | Also, ttx, if we want to backport bug fixes into Diablo, is there a tag or release naming convention to go by? | 21:12 |
| zns | jmckenty: please do! Tx | 21:12 |
| ttx | zns: I'll connect you with the stable updates team | 21:12 |
| ttx | zns: I'm not sure of their conventions | 21:12 |
| ttx | ping daviey, zul or markmc | 21:12 |
| zns | vishy: I'll reach out to him. | 21:13 |
| ttx | ok, switching to swift in 10 seconds | 21:13 |
| zns | jrouault: have you connected or collaborated with chmouel? | 21:13 |
| jrouault | no | 21:13 |
| zns | You guys might be able to help each other out on swift ACLs... | 21:13 |
| zns | I'll email-hook-you-up. | 21:14 |
| ttx | cool. | 21:14 |
| ttx | #topic Swift status | 21:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Swift status" | 21:14 | |
| zns | ttx: Thanks. On to swift... | 21:14 |
| ttx | notmyname: o/ | 21:14 |
| notmyname | howdy | 21:14 |
| ttx | Looking at https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.4.4 | 21:14 |
| ttx | If that page is current, looks like you have two things left to complete (self-destructing files and man pages) | 21:14 |
| ttx | Is that accurate ? | 21:14 |
| notmyname | that page is current with the work that has been done and is currently under review | 21:15 |
| ttx | Any ETA for 1.4.4 based on that ? | 21:15 |
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| notmyname | nothing official. just "when it's done" or "when it's needed" | 21:15 |
| ttx | ok... | 21:15 |
| ttx | notmyname: Anything else ? | 21:15 |
| notmyname | I think we're getting close | 21:15 |
| notmyname | I expect to have a swift release in the next week or two (maybe three) | 21:16 |
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| ttx | Questions on Swift ? | 21:16 |
| ttx | #topic Glance status | 21:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Glance status" | 21:17 | |
| ttx | Looks like jaypipes is not around | 21:17 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: can you step up ? | 21:17 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: sure | 21:17 |
| ttx | should be easy | 21:17 |
| bcwaldon | As many of you have seen, there is an RFC out on api v2.0 | 21:17 |
| bcwaldon | would *love* any comments anybody has | 21:17 |
| bcwaldon | it should be up to date from all of the comments already made | 21:17 |
| bcwaldon | other than that, nothing to report | 21:18 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/essex-1 | 21:18 |
| ttx | Your blueprints look very much on track. | 21:18 |
| ttx | You have a lot of targeted bugs though... Do you think they can all be fixed by next week ? | 21:18 |
| bcwaldon | yep, I think we're pretty well targeted at this point | 21:18 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: doubtful, I'll take a look and work with Jay | 21:18 |
| ttx | probably better to keep the list reasonable and doable | 21:18 |
| bcwaldon | we should see some more blueprints created for the v2.0 stuff, too | 21:18 |
| ttx | ok. Questions on Glance ? | 21:19 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: better to keep that bug list down to things you *need* to fix for a milestone, rather than random targets of opportnuity | 21:19 |
| bcwaldon | Ok, I'll talk to Jay | 21:19 |
| ttx | otherwise you keep on carrying it on from milestone to milestone | 21:20 |
| ttx | #topic Nova status | 21:20 |
| bcwaldon | which we have been doing ;) | 21:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Nova status" | 21:20 | |
| ttx | vishy: yo | 21:20 |
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| Vek | heh | 21:20 |
| vishy | hi | 21:20 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/essex-1 | 21:20 |
| ttx | quick status check | 21:21 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/quantum-dhcp-parity | 21:21 |
| ttx | this one is not "accepted for essex" | 21:21 |
| vishy | yeah i don't recognize that one | 21:21 |
| danwent | that is from quantum team | 21:22 |
| bhall | filed that recently -- I should've filed it earlier, sorry | 21:22 |
| danwent | we created it kind of late.... | 21:22 |
| danwent | but its been done and in review for a while | 21:22 |
| ttx | if it comes with code it's ok :) | 21:22 |
| ttx | vishy: ok, could you prioritize it ? | 21:22 |
| danwent | yeah, code is ready for review https://review.openstack.org/#change,916 | 21:22 |
| ttx | hopefully will raise awareness | 21:22 |
| vishy | got it | 21:22 |
| danwent | thanks guys. will do a better job of surfacing this stuff earlier in the future | 21:22 |
| ttx | the other 3 i nprogress looks very much on track I think | 21:23 |
| vishy | danwent: if you reference the blueprint in the commit message it will link automatically | 21:23 |
| ttx | I mean, the other "needs code review" look on track | 21:23 |
| ttx | In progress, in jeopardy: | 21:23 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/melange-network-info-svcs | 21:23 |
| danwent | vishy: will do. | 21:23 |
| ttx | vishy: think that one can still hit ? | 21:23 |
| ttx | (missing priority too) | 21:23 |
| troytoman | ttx: we decided that it would be best to move melange to an incubated project | 21:24 |
| troytoman | I have the todo to put that in motion. we will not merge into nova | 21:24 |
| vishy | yes | 21:24 |
| ttx | ah ? Changing every week :) | 21:24 |
| vishy | we had an offline discussion after last week | 21:24 |
| ttx | ok, will remove that one from Nova essex plans then | 21:24 |
| vishy | decided incubated was better since it has its own api | 21:24 |
| ttx | ack | 21:24 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/xenapi-sm-support | 21:24 |
| vishy | that one is close | 21:25 |
| ttx | vishy: ok | 21:25 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/separate-nova-adminapi | 21:25 |
| ttx | that one has the first step proposed | 21:25 |
| ttx | but I don't know how much more work there is | 21:26 |
| vishy | xenapi-sm is here: https://review.openstack.org/#change,897 | 21:26 |
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| ttx | everyone: please mention blueprint name in commit message or topic name. Sets up the magic links | 21:26 |
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| vishy | i think the admin api refactor will hit | 21:27 |
| vishy | i don't know if that will count as "complete" or not | 21:27 |
| ttx | #info please mention blueprint name in commit message or topic name. Autosets up the magic LP/Gerrit links | 21:27 |
| bcwaldon | vishy: the bp I'm working on? | 21:27 |
| ttx | we'll see | 21:27 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: yes | 21:27 |
| bcwaldon | I could see that waiting for essex-2, just because of the immense amount that needs to be done | 21:27 |
| pvo | vishy: did we care about the doc request for the xen volume stuff? | 21:27 |
| vishy | ok lets retarget then | 21:28 |
| ttx | ack | 21:28 |
| vishy | pvo: there is a separate bug and proposal for docs | 21:28 |
| ttx | vishy: Anything else ? | 21:28 |
| pvo | I saw the separate bug, but I didn't know if we'd hold the branch up for docs | 21:28 |
| annegentle | vishy pvo two doc bugs actually since they go into different projects | 21:28 |
| vishy | pvo: no | 21:28 |
| annegentle | pvo: testing is just as important | 21:28 |
| ttx | vishy: did the subteams pick up their respectively-assigned blueprints yet ? | 21:28 |
| vishy | ttx: to varying degrees | 21:28 |
| annegentle | pvo: but we also need to hold the line against large merges with no docs at all | 21:29 |
| vishy | api team seems fine, network team, and block storage teams are making progress | 21:29 |
| vishy | orchestration is underway | 21:29 |
| vishy | scaling is stalled at the moment | 21:29 |
| ttx | vishy: I think the security team won't have anything for Essex except the rootwrap stuff | 21:29 |
| vishy | the other ones i haven't heard much from | 21:29 |
| vishy | ttx: ok, I was hoping for some planning at least | 21:29 |
| vishy | no code though | 21:30 |
| ttx | sure | 21:30 |
| ttx | Questions on Nova ? | 21:30 |
| ttx | (vishy: the idea is to produce BPs but not necessarily for Essex) | 21:30 |
| ttx | going for the horizon in 10 seconds | 21:31 |
| ttx | (and beyond) | 21:31 |
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| ttx | #topic Horizon status | 21:31 |
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| ttx | devcamcar: o/ | 21:31 |
| devcamcar | o/ | 21:31 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/essex-1 | 21:31 |
| ttx | You still have 6 incomplete blueprints there -- do you think they will all be complete by next week? | 21:32 |
| devcamcar | so everything is tracking well for essex-1, though the javascript unit test framework may slip: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/javascript-unit-tests | 21:32 |
| devcamcar | everything else should be there for next week | 21:32 |
| ttx | devcamcar: so ideally we branch to milestone-propsoed late on Tuesday evening | 21:33 |
| ttx | and live it there to bake for two days | 21:33 |
| ttx | (backporting any critical last-minute thing) | 21:33 |
| devcamcar | the 8th? | 21:33 |
| devcamcar | should be fine | 21:33 |
| ttx | yes. Actually I do the branching very early on the 9th | 21:33 |
| ttx | if you give me the goahead on the EOD before | 21:34 |
| devcamcar | sounds good | 21:34 |
| ttx | cool | 21:34 |
| devcamcar | only other update i have is that we are fully converted to gerrit workflow now | 21:34 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/improve-dev-documentation is marked slow progress -- is it in jeopardy as well ? | 21:35 |
| ttx | or is that another of those uncompletable things ? | 21:35 |
| devcamcar | good question | 21:35 |
| devcamcar | i suppose it is a bit of an ongoing item | 21:35 |
| ttx | BP are good t otrack things tha tcan be completed -- but a bit wrong to tack ongoing efforts | 21:36 |
| ttx | track* | 21:36 |
| devcamcar | fair enough | 21:36 |
| ttx | I'll have to think about how to track that better | 21:36 |
| ttx | btw I'm working on release automation with jeblair this week so that horizon CI toolchain is ready for essex-1 | 21:36 |
| devcamcar | i think i can rephrase the BP to have a specific scope | 21:36 |
| devcamcar | specific items that need documentation | 21:37 |
| ttx | devcamcar: the best way I found so far is to have a generic blueprint "improve doc" and then have it depend on lots of smaller, targeted efforts | 21:37 |
| ttx | so that you can find the relationship | 21:37 |
| devcamcar | sounds good, i'll follow that pattern | 21:37 |
| ttx | but still having "things that can be completed" in your essex plans | 21:38 |
| ttx | so onc ethe toolchain is ready we'll have tarballs generated for every commit, from trunk and milestone-proposed | 21:38 |
| ttx | devcamcar: I might ping you so that we can the versioning code right | 21:38 |
| ttx | devcamcar: will look into it soon. | 21:39 |
| devcamcar | ok | 21:39 |
| ttx | (basically copy what we have for nova/swift/glance) | 21:39 |
| ttx | if it's not there already | 21:39 |
| ttx | devcamcar: Anything else ? | 21:39 |
| devcamcar | nope | 21:39 |
| ttx | Questions on Dashboard ? | 21:39 |
| ttx | arh | 21:39 |
| ttx | on Horizon ? | 21:39 |
| devcamcar | :) | 21:39 |
| ttx | late renaming is difficult ! | 21:40 |
| devcamcar | for real | 21:40 |
| ttx | #topic Incubated projects and other Team reports | 21:40 |
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| ttx | danwent: o/ | 21:40 |
| danwent | hello. | 21:40 |
| danwent | #info: quantum essex-1 filling out nicely: https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/essex-1 | 21:40 |
| danwent | major focus now is just reviews. | 21:41 |
| danwent | we need to help with two external reviews: | 21:41 |
| danwent | nova networking dhcp changes: https://review.openstack.org/#change,916 | 21:41 |
| danwent | python-novaclient changes: https://github.com/rackspace/python-novaclient/pull/137 | 21:41 |
| danwent | that is pretty much it | 21:41 |
| ttx | who can help wit hthat second one ? | 21:41 |
| ttx | danwent: Am I right in assuming Quantum will depend on Melange (if not already) ? | 21:42 |
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| danwent | ttx: quantum can run in two modes, one that uses the traditional nova IPAM, one that uses melange | 21:42 |
| danwent | long-term, we will require melange as more advanced features will probably rely on melange | 21:42 |
| danwent | and we don't back-port them to work with old nova IPAM> | 21:42 |
| ttx | danwent: ok. Just trying to see how urgent it is for Melange to be proposed in incubation | 21:42 |
| danwent | we definitely have people using it already... | 21:43 |
| danwent | so sooner is better | 21:43 |
| ttx | yep | 21:43 |
| danwent | that's everything on my end, unless folks have questions | 21:43 |
| ttx | #help with two external reviews https://review.openstack.org/#change,916 and https://github.com/rackspace/python-novaclient/pull/137 | 21:43 |
| ttx | Other team leads with a status report ? | 21:44 |
| vishy | looks like that first review has a couple dependencies as well | 21:44 |
| bhall | I can always reorder the commits if that becomes an issue | 21:45 |
| ttx | CI / doc / QA ? | 21:45 |
| ttx | if not, moving on | 21:46 |
| ttx | #topic Open discussion | 21:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion" | 21:46 | |
| ttx | Anything, anyone ? | 21:46 |
| vishy | can i replug for keystone stable branch asap | 21:46 |
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| annegentle | Was going to talk about the wiki maintenance work in Open discussion. | 21:46 |
| vishy | i think a lot of the frustration is because people are trying to track keystone trunk | 21:46 |
| vishy | (and ec2 at the very least doesn't work with keystone diablo tag) | 21:46 |
| zns | vishy: we're working on it. We'll be backporting these https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bugs?field.tag=diablo-backport | 21:47 |
| annegentle | Sent an email to the mailing list - summary is, we're testing single sign on with Launchpad IDs for the OpenStack wiki. | 21:47 |
| zns | but… can you let us know what issues you are experiencing in particular? | 21:47 |
| ttx | vishy: we should talk to Daviey and make sure zns has everything he needs to work on that branch | 21:47 |
| bhall | I'd like to add a plug for installing the gerrit trival rebase hook: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/881184 | 21:47 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 881184 in openstack-ci "consider trivial rebase hook for gerrit" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 21:47 |
| vishy | zns: i think the holdup is just getting the branch made in the repo and it should be editable via reviw by the backports team | 21:48 |
| zns | vishy: so getting EC2 working on Diablo/stable would stop people from tracking trunk? | 21:48 |
| vishy | zns: that is the only show-stopping bug i know about | 21:48 |
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| vishy | zns: otherwise it is education and perhaps some admin apis | 21:48 |
| zns | vishy: OK! Good to know. Actionable data | 21:48 |
| vishy | there have been some comments in the openstack channel about frustration becasue they can't create and delete tenants | 21:48 |
| vishy | (except through keystone-manage) | 21:49 |
| zns | OK. | 21:49 |
| ttx | bhall: will try to attract jeblair attention on it | 21:49 |
| zns | * is on it * | 21:49 |
| vishy | zns: the main thing is having a std config and install, and people with enough expertise to be able to respond to questions | 21:49 |
| bhall | ttx: thanks :) | 21:49 |
| vishy | devstack will help in this regard i think once we have swift included in the mix | 21:50 |
| zns | vishy: I read that as people with expertise available on IRC? | 21:50 |
| ttx | For anyone at UDS, join us for Rackspace-sponsored OpenStack-themed happy hour | 21:50 |
| vishy | correct | 21:50 |
| vishy | zns: there was a while with nova where it was just me answering the same questions over and over | 21:51 |
| zns | OK. openstack-dev, right? | 21:51 |
| vishy | eventually there are more people that can help | 21:51 |
| vishy | both openstack and openstack-dev | 21:51 |
| vishy | zns: but the main thing is expertise in configuring it to work with everything | 21:51 |
| vishy | and operate it | 21:51 |
| vishy | as opposed to code-specific expertise | 21:52 |
| zns | vishy: thank you for answering the questions! I don't want to put the onus on you, but pls feel free to reach out to me if you need help. We'll also work on bolstering our IRC presence. | 21:52 |
| ttx | ok, we'll close this meeting unless someone has anything to add | 21:53 |
| ttx | ok then | 21:53 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 21:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 1 21:53:48 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-11-01-21.03.html | 21:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-11-01-21.03.txt | 21:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-11-01-21.03.log.html | 21:53 |
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| danwent | hello netstackers! | 21:59 |
| salv-orlando | hello! | 21:59 |
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| danwent | salv: how was your trip? | 22:00 |
| carlp | hello! | 22:00 |
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| salv-orlando | good. 4 days out for work, 4 days for holydays | 22:00 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: sweet | 22:00 |
| danwent | #startmeeting | 22:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 1 22:00:59 2011 UTC. The chair is danwent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 22:01 |
| somik | salv-orlando: living the good life :) | 22:01 |
| danwent | #info Agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/Meetings | 22:01 |
| danwent | troytoman around? | 22:01 |
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| troytoman | o/ | 22:01 |
| danwent | #topic melange status | 22:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "melange status" | 22:02 | |
| danwent | congrats to melange… going to be its own project | 22:02 |
| troytoman | main update is that I conferred with vishy and a number of others and we decided melange should stand alone | 22:02 |
| troytoman | so I am going to submit it for incubator status. | 22:02 |
| carlp | awesome, congrats! | 22:02 |
| troytoman | so, we are setting that up this week and hope to have it in front of PPB next week | 22:03 |
| danwent | cool | 22:03 |
| troytoman | this will simplify packaging, etc. and help us build a community around the project | 22:03 |
| danwent | troytoman: what does this mean for packaging. going to do it on your own? | 22:03 |
| danwent | :) | 22:03 |
| troytoman | it was getting lost in the noise with nova | 22:03 |
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| edgarmagana | hi everybody! | 22:03 |
| danwent | troytoman: one question. melange is already working with keystone, is that correct? | 22:04 |
| troytoman | we have also start implementing MAC address assignment in Melange | 22:04 |
| troytoman | danwent: yes | 22:04 |
| danwent | great | 22:04 |
| troytoman | this will allow us to assure unique MAC addresses across Nova installations that use a single melange instance | 22:04 |
| danwent | troy: saw that review in nova. we probably have some suggestions on how the QuantumManager code can be structured to be more inline with the existing QM code. | 22:04 |
| danwent | brad will be reviewing | 22:05 |
| bhall | danwent: already provided feedback to them (and got a response) | 22:05 |
| troytoman | it will also help carlp sort out how to tie in DCHP/address discovery | 22:05 |
| bhall | they're going to talk it over and figure out another way to do it | 22:05 |
| danwent | but overall, we should easily be able to integrate melange mac generation into QM | 22:05 |
| danwent | bhall: great | 22:05 |
| danwent | ok, anything else on melange? questions? | 22:05 |
| troytoman | danwent: good | 22:06 |
| troytoman | I think that is it on melange | 22:06 |
| danwent | #topic quantum status | 22:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "quantum status" | 22:06 | |
| danwent | essex-1 is about a week away: https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/essex-1 | 22:06 |
| danwent | want to go through any bp/bugs that aren't already in code review or done | 22:07 |
| danwent | salv: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/authentication-for-quantum | 22:07 |
| danwent | still comfortable with putting the keystone code back in? | 22:07 |
| salv-orlando | I'm facing an issue with that at the moment | 22:07 |
| salv-orlando | Basically the code does not work anymore :) | 22:07 |
| danwent | an issue indeed :) | 22:07 |
| danwent | due to keystone changes? | 22:08 |
| danwent | or quantum changes? | 22:08 |
| salv-orlando | I need to spend a few hours on it; something probably changed server-side. | 22:08 |
| danwent | ok, good to know. | 22:08 |
| salv-orlando | Auth is quite independent from quantum. What I'm observing is basically that I always get a 401 on token validation. | 22:08 |
| danwent | please do update the status of the BP once you spend some time on it. we can probably pull in keystone folks if needed. | 22:08 |
| salv-orlando | Anyway, I hope to propose code for merge on thurs | 22:09 |
| danwent | great, thanks. | 22:09 |
| salv-orlando | tomorrow instead I will propose for merge api-framework-essex | 22:09 |
| danwent | anticipating my next question… smart :P | 22:09 |
| salv-orlando | Finally, I have a couple of bugs on my plate. They should be merge-prop by friday. | 22:09 |
| danwent | great. | 22:09 |
| danwent | bhall, two bugs on your plate | 22:10 |
| vishy | salv-orlando: make sure you are testing based on keystone diablo | 22:10 |
| danwent | that are "in progress" | 22:10 |
| bhall | they're in code review | 22:10 |
| vishy | salv-orlando: i wouldn't try to track keystone trunk at this point | 22:10 |
| bhall | there is no launchpad bug state for "in code review" that I can find | 22:10 |
| danwent | bhall: ok, please update status | 22:10 |
| danwent | ah | 22:10 |
| vishy | bhall: if you reference the bug or blueprint in the commit message it will create a link and a comment for you | 22:10 |
| danwent | vishy: will that remain true for a while? | 22:11 |
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| danwent | vishy: my question was about keystone | 22:11 |
| salv-orlando | vishy: thanks for the advie. will do that. | 22:11 |
| vishy | danwent: yes, I don't think any of the projects will move to keystone trunk until the api changes have stabalized | 22:11 |
| vishy | *stabilized | 22:11 |
| danwent | vishy: ok, good to know | 22:11 |
| vishy | stablized? | 22:11 |
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| danwent | :) | 22:12 |
| danwent | i hate spelling | 22:12 |
| bhall | vishy: noted.. I'm going to go through and amend the quantum commits that haven't merged yet with bug/bp references | 22:12 |
| danwent | Ok, any other oustanding issues we have mentioned for essex-1? we'll talk reviews next. | 22:12 |
| danwent | have -> have not | 22:12 |
| salv-orlando | not that I know of | 22:13 |
| danwent | #info big review in quantum for essex-1 is quantum packaging: https://review.openstack.org/1094 | 22:13 |
| danwent | #info other big review is actually in nova, dhcp changes to quantum manager: https://review.openstack.org/#change,916 | 22:14 |
| bhall | I have a few more comments on the packaging review but I don't think they're major.. I'll submit the comments today | 22:14 |
| danwent | we definitely need a big review push for the packaging. I think Brad and I have committed to reviewing this week. | 22:14 |
| bhall | would be nice to get some more eyes on it | 22:14 |
| salv-orlando | To be honest, I won't have time for doing that review before the weekend. | 22:14 |
| edgarmagana | I am also reviewing packaging and testing it | 22:14 |
| danwent | there will be more smaller reviews coming down the pipeline later in the week, so I'd like to get started on the packaging one ASAP | 22:14 |
| danwent | edgar: great | 22:15 |
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| danwent | salv: yeah, sounds like you have dev on your plate this week. maybe you can do a final review early next week. | 22:15 |
| edgarmagana | dan: I already provided some comments and more to come | 22:15 |
| salv-orlando | this merge is likely to cause conflicts with all other branches. | 22:15 |
| salv-orlando | which are currently under development. | 22:15 |
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| danwent | salv: agreed. | 22:15 |
| salv-orlando | It woul dbe great if we could merge it by the end of the week. This will leave us time to fix the conflicts in branches under dev. | 22:16 |
| danwent | salv: I think that's a good idea. | 22:16 |
| danwent | let's target reviews tomorrow, so hopefully we can get a few rounds of feedback in by end of week. | 22:16 |
| bhall | wouldn't the other way around be easier? | 22:16 |
| bhall | get the other revies in first and then fix conflicts in one fell swoop? | 22:17 |
| salv-orlando | bhall: push back packaging? | 22:17 |
| danwent | bhall: I don't think salv's work is ready yet. | 22:17 |
| bhall | I meant early next week.. but I guess we don't have much time next week | 22:17 |
| bhall | ok.. either way is ok with me | 22:17 |
| danwent | #help please review https://review.openstack.org/#change,1094 ASAP | 22:17 |
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| danwent | #info tyler + team should be ready for reviews + quick feedback this week | 22:18 |
| danwent | both tyler and mark couldn't attend today, but I will sync with them via email. | 22:18 |
| danwent | Ok, any other concerns around essex-1 reviews? | 22:18 |
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| salv-orlando | that changeset is the only one currently waiting for review for quantum, is that correct? | 22:19 |
| bhall | there is more | 22:19 |
| bhall | lemme find a link | 22:19 |
| danwent | https://review.openstack.org/#q,status:open+project:openstack/quantum,n,z | 22:19 |
| danwent | #info current reviews: https://review.openstack.org/#q,status:open+project:openstack/quantum,n,z | 22:20 |
| bhall | ok, dan got it | 22:20 |
| danwent | we're going to try and branch a bit before the actual milestone drop, like other openstack projects. | 22:20 |
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| danwent | #info we're going to try and branch a bit before the actual milestone drop, like other openstack projects. If you're committed right before a milestone, please be aware. | 22:20 |
| danwent | Ok, anything else essex-1 related, before we move on? | 22:21 |
| danwent | Ok, carlp, want to give an update on jenkins + quantum? | 22:22 |
| carlp | sure! | 22:22 |
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| carlp | I worked with Monty last week and we got the jenkins slave setup. I've been really busy with real-life obligations but as of this morning it appears to be working. Details are in the blueprints. | 22:23 |
| danwent | carlp: can you send out links with #info tags? | 22:23 |
| carlp | We have two worker nodes, both VT capable machines. Jenkins can login to both of them. They have 100 VLANs for use in testing | 22:23 |
| carlp | #info https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/netstack-dreamhost/ | 22:24 |
| carlp | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/quantum-functional-tests | 22:24 |
| danwent | ok so what is our goal in terms of getting the first functional test up and running? | 22:24 |
| carlp | The biggest issue at the moment is that we need to define the actual testing environment. We can now spin up libvirt VMs on the workers to do the testing, but we need to define that OS and package set | 22:25 |
| carlp | Hardware and networking wise, we should be good to go | 22:25 |
| danwent | carlp: cool. brad is doing some work with devscript that may be of use | 22:25 |
| danwent | may save you some work. | 22:25 |
| bhall | devstack | 22:25 |
| bhall | he means | 22:25 |
| danwent | indeed :) | 22:25 |
| carlp | bhall: Here is some info monty sent me on how they do bare metal installs now :http://ci.openstack.org/jenkins.html#integration-testing | 22:26 |
| carlp | we can steal from that or not | 22:26 |
| bhall | ok, I'll take a look | 22:26 |
| carlp | We can also just run code without a VM. That is ready to rock now. | 22:26 |
| danwent | carlp: I know several other people are looking to draft behind you in terms of setting up jenkins + quantum, so please do send out docuemtnation when you have the chance. great work so far. | 22:26 |
| carlp | It's actually pretty simple, but I will document the environment and the slave better in those blueprints | 22:27 |
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| danwent | cool. please send an email to the list with any info on how we can help | 22:27 |
| danwent | anything else on jenkins/functional test? | 22:27 |
| carlp | I think that's it for now | 22:28 |
| zns | danwent, vishy: you there? | 22:28 |
| danwent | i'm here | 22:28 |
| danwent | ok, and final update for quantum is that we should be targeting blueprints at essex-2 now: https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/essex-2 | 22:29 |
| danwent | Any other questions or comments on quantum? | 22:29 |
| zns | I just read you and vishy were talking about moving to Keystone and API stabalization (sp!). The API implementation in 2011.3 has been stable since Sept 30. So wondering if I understood that right? | 22:29 |
| danwent | I think vishy was just telling salv-orlando that he should be using the keystone api from diablo, not tracking trunk. | 22:30 |
| salv-orlando | zns: I think we were talking about Quantum's auth middleware not working at the moment. | 22:30 |
| danwent | salv-orlando was seeing 401 issues with keystone | 22:30 |
| salv-orlando | and danwent told the rest :) | 22:30 |
| zns | ah. OK. | 22:30 |
| zns | Anything you need us to do, salv-orlando? | 22:30 |
| salv-orlando | zns: I spend only a few hours on it. That might be something very trivial. I'll get back at you If I'm not able to solve the issue in the next couple of days. | 22:31 |
| salv-orlando | I'm doing probably too many things in parallel :) | 22:31 |
| zns | OK. | 22:31 |
| danwent | #topic open discussion | 22:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion" | 22:31 | |
| danwent | anything else folks? | 22:31 |
| danwent | #endmeeting | 22:32 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 1 22:32:13 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-11-01-22.00.html | 22:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-11-01-22.00.txt | 22:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-11-01-22.00.log.html | 22:32 |
| danwent | have a good one :) | 22:32 |
| salv-orlando | you too! | 22:32 |
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