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| alex_xu | #startmeeting nova api | 13:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 20 13:00:17 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova api)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | who is here today? | 13:00 |
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| gmann | o/ | 13:01 |
| alex_xu | gmann: would you work on the spec of no-more-extension? | 13:02 |
| gmann | alex_xu: yea, i will push that tomorrow may be. need to get all policy things | 13:02 |
| gmann | it should be quick once i have list of policies | 13:03 |
| alex_xu | gmann: yea, a list of policies, probably need to take a look at eachone | 13:03 |
| gmann | yea | 13:04 |
| alex_xu | at least we can start some cleanup patch? | 13:04 |
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| alex_xu | without spec? | 13:04 |
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| gmann | i think yes, only policy removal is something we need spec for | 13:04 |
| alex_xu | cool | 13:04 |
| alex_xu | gmann: do you have any idea we can co-work on the cleanup? | 13:04 |
| gmann | alex_xu: you mean on etherpad etc | 13:05 |
| alex_xu | gmann: yea, something like that | 13:05 |
| gmann | alex_xu: i will put that, it will avoid any conflict etc | 13:05 |
| alex_xu | gmann: thanks | 13:05 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/502516 | 13:06 |
| alex_xu | gmann: congrats, it already got a +2 | 13:06 |
| gmann | alex_xu: yea | 13:06 |
| alex_xu | add it to my review list | 13:07 |
| gmann | sdague: if you check this, it is ready - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502516/ | 13:07 |
| gmann | alex_xu: thanks. | 13:07 |
| alex_xu | np | 13:07 |
| gmann | alex_xu: catch me if i do not deprecate the policy in code when doing for config option :) | 13:07 |
| gmann | i might forgot that | 13:08 |
| alex_xu | gmann: ok | 13:08 |
| gmann | alex_xu: i will push the code patch by early next week, as not much to do in this | 13:08 |
| sdague | o/ | 13:08 |
| alex_xu | gmann: thanks | 13:08 |
| sdague | gmann: will look | 13:08 |
| gmann | sdague: thanks | 13:08 |
| alex_xu | sdague: thanks | 13:08 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/490722 | 13:09 |
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| sdague | gmann: +A | 13:09 |
| sdague | gmann: thanks for cleaning this up | 13:09 |
| gmann | sdague: thanks | 13:09 |
| alex_xu | ^ this fix already updated for the ptg discussion | 13:09 |
| gmann | alex_xu: nice, i will check tomorrow | 13:10 |
| sdague | alex_xu: it seems to need lots of tests fixed | 13:10 |
| alex_xu | sdague: you mean to the patch 490722? | 13:11 |
| sdague | yeh | 13:11 |
| sdague | oh, those look like cloning failures | 13:11 |
| sdague | so maybe just a recheck | 13:11 |
| alex_xu | oh | 13:12 |
| alex_xu | yea, looks like just need recheck | 13:12 |
| sdague | yeh, I just did it | 13:12 |
| alex_xu | thx | 13:13 |
| alex_xu | that is all I have today, anything else people want to bring up? | 13:13 |
| gmann | there is 1 mail about server metadata API | 13:14 |
| gmann | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-September/122319.html | 13:14 |
| gmann | schema restrict the more than 1 item in body actually | 13:14 |
| gmann | #lnk https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/5bf1bb47c7e17c26592a699d07c2faa59d98bfb8/nova/api/openstack/compute/schemas/server_metadata.py#L32 | 13:14 |
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| gmann | i think API is good as it in case i missed anything. | 13:15 |
| alex_xu | yea | 13:15 |
| alex_xu | /servers/{uuid}/metadata is for override all the metadata I think? | 13:16 |
| gmann | PUT is yes for override all | 13:16 |
| gmann | POST is just replace the input one | 13:16 |
| gmann | i replied on ML in case he is getting different behavior | 13:17 |
| alex_xu | what different between PUT and POST? | 13:18 |
| alex_xu | oops, I mean the 'POST /servers/{id}/metadata' and 'PUT /servers/{id}/metadata/{metadata}' | 13:18 |
| gmann | PUT is to replace all existing metadata with the metadata present in request body | 13:18 |
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| gmann | POST will just create or update the one present in request body and will not remove other exiting earlier | 13:19 |
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| alex_xu | ah, i see | 13:20 |
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| alex_xu | so we are good I think, they are APIs with different behaivour | 13:20 |
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| gmann | yea, mail is actually for PUT metadata key 'PUT /servers/{id}/metadata/{metadata}/{key}' | 13:21 |
| gmann | question was API code does allow to update more metadata key than the only one in url | 13:22 |
| gmann | #link https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/server_metadata.py#L80 | 13:23 |
| gmann | but schema restrict the request body to have only 1 item #link https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/5bf1bb47c7e17c26592a699d07c2faa59d98bfb8/nova/api/openstack/compute/schemas/server_metadata.py#L32 | 13:23 |
| alex_xu | the confuse thing is both the url and body includes the key? | 13:24 |
| gmann | alex_xu: yea | 13:24 |
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| gmann | alex_xu: body has with its value | 13:25 |
| alex_xu | yea | 13:25 |
| gmann | you mean we should only expect the value in body which make it more clear | 13:26 |
| alex_xu | no, I think it ism't worth to do it | 13:26 |
| gmann | yea, | 13:27 |
| gmann | alex_xu: that's all i have for today | 13:28 |
| alex_xu | anyway, let see what is jichen requested finally | 13:28 |
| alex_xu | ok | 13:28 |
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| alex_xu | thanks all! | 13:28 |
| alex_xu | #endmeeting | 13:28 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 20 13:28:48 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:28 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-09-20-13.00.html | 13:28 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-09-20-13.00.txt | 13:28 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-09-20-13.00.log.html | 13:28 |
| gmann | thank alex_xu | 13:28 |
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| alexchadin | #startmeeting watcher | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 20 14:00:10 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alexchadin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| alexchadin | hi! | 14:00 |
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| alexchadin | this is last massive blueprint review meeting for Queens cycle | 14:01 |
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| alexchadin | the next meeting will be in classic form | 14:02 |
| adisky | Hi | 14:02 |
| alexchadin | #topic Blueprint Review | 14:02 |
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| alexchadin | hi adisky | 14:02 |
| alexchadin | Compute CDM include all instances #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/compute-cdm-include-all-instances | 14:03 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: this is bug now, right? | 14:03 |
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| suzhengwei | I think it is better to be one bp. | 14:04 |
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| suzhengwei | too much changes. | 14:04 |
| suzhengwei | compute CDM, strategies. | 14:04 |
| alexchadin | great, I remember I've already reviewed it | 14:05 |
| alexchadin | will review again soon | 14:05 |
| suzhengwei | yes, thx | 14:05 |
| alexchadin | Display input parameters of strategy #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/display-parameter-of-each-strategy-in-strategy-list | 14:06 |
| alexchadin | unfortunately, Yumeng isn't here | 14:07 |
| alexchadin | so, I approve it with medium priority if you don't mind | 14:07 |
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| suzhengwei | which one? | 14:07 |
| suzhengwei | Compute CDM include all instances? | 14:08 |
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| alexchadin | suzhengwei: look at above messages: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/display-parameter-of-each-strategy-in-strategy-list | 14:08 |
| suzhengwei | sorry. misunderstaood. | 14:09 |
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| alexchadin | exclude locked instances #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/exclude-locked-instances | 14:09 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: as I've said before, this feature is managed by audit scope | 14:10 |
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| suzhengwei | No problem to exsist instances.But how to do with new created instances? | 14:11 |
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| alexchadin | suzhengwei: do you propose to add locked to instance metadata? | 14:13 |
| suzhengwei | yes | 14:13 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: well, interesting | 14:14 |
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| alexchadin | suzhengwei: let's see your spec then ;) | 14:14 |
| suzhengwei | ok | 14:14 |
| alexchadin | feedback metrics to ceilometer #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/feedback-metrics-to-ceilometer | 14:15 |
| suzhengwei | deserted | 14:15 |
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| suzhengwei | put it aside. No good idea about it. | 14:16 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: please, abandon related commit | 14:17 |
| suzhengwei | ok | 14:17 |
| alexchadin | Implementing watcher dashboard in AngularJs #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/implementing-watcher-dashboard-in-angularjs | 14:17 |
| alexchadin | a little bit strange proposal, but... does someone need it? | 14:18 |
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| alexchadin | Replace cold migrate in migrate action to use Nova migration API #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/replace-cold-migrate-to-use-nova-migration-api | 14:20 |
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| alexchadin | I propose to leave it as is since Nova hasn't released this feature yet | 14:22 |
| alexchadin | replace voplutuous with jsonschema to validate efficacy indicators #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/replace-voplutuous-with-jsonschema | 14:22 |
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| alexchadin | Update bare metal data model by ironic notifications #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/update-bare-metal-data-model-by-ironic-notifications | 14:25 |
| suzhengwei | licanwei is not here? | 14:26 |
| alexchadin | I will set low priority and queens-3 on it since baremetal data hasn't been completed yet | 14:26 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: not here | 14:27 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei, adisky: we can discuss specs if you want | 14:27 |
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| suzhengwei | have we finished all spec now? | 14:28 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: bp - yes :) | 14:28 |
| suzhengwei | extend-node-status, It is finished. we can start to review the commits. | 14:29 |
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| alexchadin | suzhengwei: we need to merge appropriate spec first | 14:31 |
| suzhengwei | ok. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/compute-cdm-include-all-instances, it doesn't have a priority. | 14:31 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: I will review it tomorrow | 14:31 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: I will set medium priority and queens-1 as a result | 14:33 |
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| suzhengwei | It is ok. | 14:33 |
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| alexchadin | suzhengwei, adisky any other announcements? | 14:35 |
| alexchadin | if not, I would suggest to end up this meeting earlier than usually. | 14:36 |
| suzhengwei | what is the deadline for queue-1? | 14:36 |
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| alexchadin | suzhengwei: october 20 | 14:37 |
| suzhengwei | thx | 14:37 |
| alexchadin | well, thank you for coming! | 14:38 |
| suzhengwei | bye | 14:38 |
| alexchadin | bye | 14:38 |
| alexchadin | #endmeeting | 14:38 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 20 14:38:55 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-09-20-14.00.html | 14:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-09-20-14.00.txt | 14:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-09-20-14.00.log.html | 14:39 |
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| inc0 | #startmeeting kolla | 15:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 20 15:59:10 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is inc0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 15:59 |
| inc0 | #topic w00t! | 15:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "w00t! (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:59 | |
| inc0 | welcome back everyone! | 15:59 |
| gema | o/ | 15:59 |
| egonzalez | wo0T! | 15:59 |
| coolsvap | o/ | 16:00 |
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| vhosakot | o/ | 16:00 |
| rwellum | WoOt! | 16:00 |
| vhosakot | wW0o0otT | 16:00 |
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| krtaylor | o/ | 16:01 |
| britthouser | o/ | 16:01 |
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| rwellum | Hey - I know many faces now since the PTG. | 16:01 |
| rwellum | Maybe 1 or 2 I'd like to forget. jk. | 16:02 |
| krtaylor | hehheh | 16:02 |
| gema | rwellum: lol | 16:02 |
| duonghq | o/ | 16:02 |
| gema | inc0: anywhere we can get the pics in higer res than the one on the mailing? | 16:03 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | o/ | 16:03 |
| britthouser | lol | 16:03 |
| inc0 | these are only ones I got:( | 16:03 |
| inc0 | I think they are just this way | 16:03 |
| gema | inc0: just so that I can tell hrw next week who is who, ok, I will ask the foundation guys | 16:03 |
| hrw | o/ | 16:03 |
| gema | and pass it on if they are on some google drive somewher | 16:03 |
| hrw | rwellum: I envy you then | 16:04 |
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| rwellum | hrw: yeah sucks you couldn't make it :( | 16:04 |
| inc0 | #topic Announcements | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:04 | |
| inc0 | PTG is over, we have heads full of plans | 16:04 |
| inc0 | any community announcements? | 16:05 |
| rwellum | We discussed 1.0 for kolla-k8s | 16:05 |
| vhosakot | PTG was awesome, great chats and ideas exchanged! | 16:05 |
| gema | inc0: we'll be working hard towards adding aarch64 to the gates | 16:05 |
| * hrw waits for public docs about plans to write mail to bosses about next ptg | 16:05 | |
| Jeffrey4l_ | 5.0.0 is released lol | 16:05 |
| vhosakot | Kolla will certainly send man to pluto ;) | 16:05 |
| rwellum | gema: +100! | 16:05 |
| vhosakot | cool gema! | 16:05 |
| rwellum | Jeffrey4l_: that's awesome, and thoughts on dockerhub image push? | 16:06 |
| inc0 | #topic PTG summary | 16:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG summary (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:06 | |
| vhosakot | I'm testing egonzalez's vault review. | 16:06 |
| pbourke | o/ | 16:06 |
| inc0 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-queens-ptg-schedule | 16:06 |
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| hrw | I am already afraid of amount of work gema will put on my plate ;D | 16:06 |
| rwellum | lol | 16:06 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | rwellum, we need vm to push the images | 16:06 |
| gema | hrw: you won't be bored | 16:06 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l_: negative, we have better plan:) | 16:06 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | inc0, what's it? | 16:07 |
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| inc0 | let's start with docs, I'll get to dockerhub | 16:07 |
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| inc0 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-doc-restructure | 16:08 |
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| inc0 | with Alex and docs team we started to work on new table of contents for docs | 16:08 |
| Jeffrey4l | ok. | 16:08 |
| krtaylor | I pushed a patch that started with the new format, but do we want to use the old on einstead? | 16:09 |
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| inc0 | krtaylor: I'd be ok with starting fresh with new one | 16:09 |
| krtaylor | well, as egonzalez pointed out, they are similar | 16:09 |
| rwellum | krtaylor: new one all the way. | 16:09 |
| inc0 | I would like this to be full community effort this release | 16:09 |
| britthouser | can you link to the patch krtaylor? I'd like to help | 16:10 |
| gema | yeah, me too | 16:10 |
| rwellum | ditto | 16:10 |
| vhosakot | I saw both reviews from krtaylor. As egonzalez commented, they do look similar. | 16:10 |
| krtaylor | its in the restructure etherpad | 16:10 |
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| britthouser | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504801 | 16:10 |
| krtaylor | I'm fine either way, the older one -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486423 | 16:10 |
| krtaylor | we can decide and then I'll start pushing other sections | 16:11 |
| inc0 | ok let's review both after meeting | 16:11 |
| krtaylor | I stopped on mine until decided, there are a couple of fixes left | 16:12 |
| krtaylor | sure, that'll work | 16:12 |
| vhosakot | krtaylor: the old review does not have comments/inputs from PTG? | 16:12 |
| krtaylor | right, slight tweaks to that one would be necessary | 16:12 |
| inc0 | besides new ToC and directory structure we'd love to create use-case based docs too | 16:12 |
| vhosakot | I see. | 16:12 |
| inc0 | something I heard over and over again | 16:12 |
| sdake | o/ | 16:12 |
| jascott1 | hey sdake | 16:12 |
| krtaylor | yes and some for kolla-ansible toc as well | 16:13 |
| inc0 | we can plan around that once we get basic structure in place | 16:13 |
| egonzalez | the old one was since the doc restructure started, but was in queue for so long | 16:13 |
| vhosakot | I see, cool.. that is what I thought. | 16:13 |
| rwellum | For the use-cases - did we decide where they are to live? | 16:13 |
| inc0 | krtaylor: can you lead this effort? I mean it's full community but it'd be great to have you keeping track on all this | 16:14 |
| * rwellum reading doc | 16:14 | |
| britthouser | If the new one matches what we came up with PTG, seems like we should take that one forward and incorporate old one into that? | 16:14 |
| krtaylor | yep, I'm trying :) | 16:14 |
| inc0 | and you're doing awesome job, just wanted to make it a bit more official here;) | 16:14 |
| vhosakot | krtaylor: if there is consensus, abandon old review to avoid confusion :) | 16:14 |
| britthouser | ^^ | 16:14 |
| gema | vhosakot: +1 | 16:14 |
| gema | let's move forward with the new one | 16:14 |
| krtaylor | inc0, hehheh, well, I'll have to beat back downstream pressures, but sure | 16:14 |
| vhosakot | yes, new has old in it anyway ;) | 16:15 |
| inc0 | so, if anyone wants to help, please talk to Kurt to figure out best ways to contribute in organized manner | 16:15 |
| krtaylor | ok, if thats consensus, I'll finish it this afternoon | 16:15 |
| vhosakot | inc0: yeah, I'd like to help too... will ping krtaylor after meeting. | 16:15 |
| krtaylor | that'll work! | 16:15 |
| gema | krtaylor: maybe start an etherpad with tasks | 16:15 |
| gema | and let us pick from there? | 16:16 |
| inc0 | cool, thanks, we need to start by organizing new dir structure | 16:16 |
| gema | or a BP | 16:16 |
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| krtaylor | I'll set up an etherpad for us to track work over the cycle | 16:16 |
| hrw | gema: BP better | 16:16 |
| inc0 | so everyone please review notes from PTG and reviews linked | 16:16 |
| hrw | BP can have tasks, acn have link to etherpad too | 16:16 |
| inc0 | great idea krtaylor | 16:16 |
| rwellum | I like the BP because we can use it to show docs team and they might promote our project as a fore-runner a bit.. | 16:16 |
| inc0 | let's make it full topic on next meeting too | 16:16 |
| krtaylor | ok, will do, BP that is, and etherpad | 16:16 |
| hrw | and BP can be mentioned in commit logs, sorted in gerrit etc | 16:16 |
| inc0 | we should use this week to work out ideas and then, next meeting, kick off actual work full time | 16:17 |
| inc0 | yeah we're a bit light on process where it comes to bps, but obviously we should create one, thanks everyone | 16:18 |
| duonghq | should we create new etherpad for idea <-> bp mapping or use old one? | 16:18 |
| hrw | I hope that linaro connect will have boring keynotes on wednesday so I can attend meeting rather than keynotes ;d | 16:18 |
| * gema and hrw will likely skip next week but be back after that (due to travel to conference) | 16:18 | |
| inc0 | I like bp to point to etherpad and etherpad to be actual work notes | 16:18 |
| inc0 | it's less effort to work with it | 16:18 |
| vhosakot | inc0: I'd like to help with the DockerHub publishing task too. After chatting with the infra guys at PTG, were there any notes taken? | 16:18 |
| krtaylor | I'd like to start a new etherpad, keep that one for PTG reference | 16:19 |
| inc0 | vhosakot: we'll get to that | 16:19 |
| hrw | krtaylor: link both etherpads by adding links | 16:19 |
| inc0 | actually, let's move to that | 16:19 |
| krtaylor | I'll set that up this afternoon | 16:19 |
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| krtaylor | sounds good, I'll ping yall for help | 16:19 |
| inc0 | #topic PTG summary - Images | 16:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG summary - Images (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:19 | |
| inc0 | so we have few big items regarding images | 16:19 |
| inc0 | 1. DockerHub publishing | 16:20 |
| inc0 | current idea is to start by deploying registry in Infra | 16:20 |
| inc0 | to get rid of tarballs | 16:20 |
| vhosakot | inc0: cool | 16:20 |
| hrw | registry in infra is good idea as it allows to put whatever got built for tests and publish only tested images | 16:21 |
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| inc0 | I'm leading this effort (whole dockerhub thingy) and like Kurt, I'll get etherpad with work items up and running | 16:21 |
| inc0 | today | 16:21 |
| inc0 | yes | 16:21 |
| britthouser | Infra will support he registry? or we'll spin up a registry as part of our gate? | 16:21 |
| inc0 | we'll have single registry in infra, master registry you could say | 16:21 |
| britthouser | cool! | 16:22 |
| inc0 | gate-to-gate registry spinup was discussed but that's a bit far away, we'll figure it out when we get there | 16:22 |
| rwellum | This will apply to both orchestration methods correct? | 16:22 |
| inc0 | so we'll have job to populate infra-registry and another job to pull from it and publish on dockerhub | 16:23 |
| inc0 | rwellum: yes, images will be available to k8s too...or anything else for that matter, like homebrew solutions | 16:23 |
| coolsvap | Yes, getting registry in infra is long awaited and good start to publishing | 16:23 |
| Jeffrey4l | is there credential solution | 16:23 |
| vhosakot | inc0: will the registry contain a single version of kolla images (every night's images pushed)? or container many versions of kolla images? | 16:23 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l: will be addressed in zuulv3 | 16:23 |
| Jeffrey4l | is zuulv3 released? | 16:24 |
| rwellum | vhosakot: good qn | 16:24 |
| inc0 | zuulv3 is days away afaik, I'll double check with them today | 16:24 |
| vhosakot | Jeffrey4l: 9/25 | 16:24 |
| Jeffrey4l | thanks. | 16:24 |
| inc0 | vhosakot: all stable + master for sure | 16:24 |
| rwellum | Because current solution in k8s is a registry which downloads one big tarball | 16:24 |
| Jeffrey4l | i heard zuulv3 since last year ;D | 16:24 |
| rwellum | Sep 25 according to that team | 16:24 |
| inc0 | yes, it's a huge amount of work there | 16:24 |
| hrw | and multiple architectures I hope | 16:24 |
| vhosakot | inc0: ah, registry has stable too.... then, infra registry sounds like a duplicate of DockerHub? | 16:25 |
| inc0 | hrw: for that we'll need to wait for non-x86 gates | 16:25 |
| hrw | inc0: sure | 16:25 |
| * inc0 looking at gema | 16:25 | |
| Jeffrey4l | hrw, there should be no arch issue for docker registry. it just a bunch of tar files. | 16:25 |
| inc0 | but once that's done, I see no reason why not publish these too | 16:25 |
| coolsvap | vhosakot: yes with better bandwidth:) | 16:26 |
| inc0 | issue will be building and testing, so we need region of infra with arm | 16:26 |
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| inc0 | we discussed that with infra and I think gema has good idea about that, right? | 16:26 |
| coolsvap | inc0: we'll see once we've first | 16:26 |
| gema | sorry had to step out for a sec, reading | 16:26 |
| hrw | vhosakot: when you do builds and testing inside infra why waste bandwidth/time on sending files here and there? | 16:26 |
| Jeffrey4l | hrw is building 3rd part build jobs i think. once it is done, he can push the image into master registry. | 16:26 |
| coolsvap | Registry | 16:26 |
| Jeffrey4l | vhosakot, docker hub is used for kolla tag image. infra registry is mainly used for branch images. i think. | 16:27 |
| inc0 | right, to close up this topic, I'll make summary etherpad, work items and if anyone wants to help, please talk to me | 16:28 |
| inc0 | I'll be contact point in dockerhub things | 16:28 |
| vhosakot | cool inc0 Jeffrey4l, that is what I thought. | 16:28 |
| gema | inc0: yep, no prob, I have already agreed on what cloud to use and just need to find time to add the 2 projects to it and tell infra about it | 16:28 |
| vhosakot | inc0: I'd like to help. | 16:28 |
| gema | then we'll be able to schedule jobs | 16:28 |
| inc0 | next big topic in image pipeline was dealing with plugins (again)( | 16:28 |
| rwellum | inc0: so is zuul3 a blocker? | 16:28 |
| inc0 | rwellum: yes | 16:28 |
| gema | will coordinate with Jeffrey4l once I get there | 16:28 |
| rwellum | got it | 16:28 |
| inc0 | but there are things we can do before it landa | 16:28 |
| inc0 | lands | 16:28 |
| gema | 3rd party CI will take a bit longer | 16:29 |
| inc0 | so scenario we were dicussing was - currently I have neutron-server-odl and neutron-server-ovn | 16:29 |
| gema | but it is also on the making | 16:29 |
| vhosakot | inc0: did the infra team say they do no want the infra registry to carry images of plugins? | 16:29 |
| inc0 | how to make neutron-server-odl-ovn if I want multi-backend | 16:29 |
| inc0 | vhosakot: that's besides the scope | 16:29 |
| vhosakot | cool | 16:29 |
| inc0 | there will be some plugins, whatever we decide | 16:29 |
| vhosakot | right | 16:30 |
| inc0 | let's talk about this later, first, basic images | 16:30 |
| gema | hrw: can you make sure our images also end up there? | 16:30 |
| hrw | gema: pushing images is a matter of auth+address iirc | 16:31 |
| inc0 | there are few ideas in this etherpad: | 16:31 |
| inc0 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-queens-ptg-images | 16:31 |
| gema | hrw: and naming, we need to agree with everyone on the right one | 16:31 |
| gema | (so the arch is parsable from the name) | 16:31 |
| gema | (I think) | 16:31 |
| inc0 | I'll need a name if someone wants to take on this effort, otherwise we'll wait till our time gets freed up | 16:31 |
| rwellum | Also does this address kfox1111 point about 'micro builds'? | 16:32 |
| gema | inc0: maybe hrw can start looking into it | 16:32 |
| * rwellum ducks instinctively | 16:32 | |
| inc0 | shrinking images: that was cool because we wrote new docker-build | 16:32 |
| gema | I am not sure how much work is involved nor how much time he is going to have | 16:32 |
| hrw | gema: images may be multiarch handled by registry too. "docker pull centos" works on aarch64 now | 16:32 |
| inc0 | that was fun experiment;) | 16:32 |
| gema | hrw: ok, cool | 16:33 |
| Jeffrey4l | hrw that's cool. | 16:33 |
| inc0 | and finally, we discussed what we're doing with Ceph | 16:33 |
| inc0 | this is important | 16:33 |
| inc0 | long story short, right now we bump ceph to L | 16:33 |
| inc0 | so we need upgrade and containers | 16:33 |
| hrw | and we need to get ceph/L packages for debian/stretch, centos/7 and ubuntu/xenial | 16:34 |
| inc0 | but we also discussed with leseb (ceph community) about moving out of our ceph deployments to ceph-ansible | 16:34 |
| inc0 | during Queens timeframe I'd like us to think how it's possible if it is | 16:34 |
| inc0 | without sacreficing our nice deployment experience | 16:34 |
| hrw | ubuntu/xenial has ceph/L in ubuntu-cloud repo | 16:34 |
| gema | hrw: ^ this means we need to start adding aarch64 images to ceph-ansible in prep for the later move | 16:35 |
| gema | krtaylor: ^ | 16:35 |
| Jeffrey4l | hrw we have pin it to J now. | 16:35 |
| inc0 | if we decide that we want to move out of kolla-deployed ceph | 16:35 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l: in pike, yes | 16:35 |
| hrw | Jeffrey4l: I know | 16:35 |
| inc0 | Queens can be L | 16:35 |
| inc0 | if we want to move out of kolla deployed ceph and always assume external ceph | 16:35 |
| egonzalez | Jeffrey4l, ubuntu install L in pike | 16:35 |
| inc0 | we'll need good guide, migration path and deprecation of it over Rocky release | 16:36 |
| inc0 | which means next ceph LTS would be outside of Kolla | 16:36 |
| Jeffrey4l | egonzalez, iirc, didn't you push a patch to pin the ceph version. | 16:36 |
| hrw | centos is on jewel, debian on jewel iirc too | 16:36 |
| inc0 | leseb said they'll help | 16:36 |
| rwellum | Is ceph documented in etherpad inc0 ? | 16:36 |
| jamesbenson | inc0: I'm working on a shell/ansible script that uses multinode file to deploy ceph.... | 16:36 |
| inc0 | no:( | 16:36 |
| egonzalez | Jeffrey4l, didnt work, package conflicts, my .deb knowledge is limited for that | 16:36 |
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| inc0 | jamesbenson: with ceph-deploy? | 16:36 |
| jamesbenson | inc0: yes | 16:37 |
| Jeffrey4l | ok. thanks | 16:37 |
| inc0 | that'd be good | 16:37 |
| jamesbenson | inc0: It's a wrapper around ceph-deploy | 16:37 |
| jamesbenson | ... I like wrappers... | 16:37 |
| inc0 | anyway, that's outcome from discussion | 16:37 |
| inc0 | we have 6 months to explore and make decision | 16:37 |
| inc0 | so let's make sure it's good and informed one | 16:37 |
| inc0 | any other comments regarding image part of PTG? | 16:38 |
| inc0 | #topic PTG summary - Ansible | 16:38 |
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| inc0 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-queens-ptg-ansible | 16:38 |
| inc0 | so one of biggest ones was devmode | 16:38 |
| inc0 | we talked to different communities and people are really excited about prospect of ditching devstack | 16:39 |
| hrw | Jeffrey4l, egonzalez: I may take a look on getting ubuntu images stick to 10.2.7 ceph/j | 16:39 |
| Jeffrey4l | btw, devmode is marked as implemented in pike branch. and i re-opened it | 16:39 |
| inc0 | right, also we'll need to change it slightly | 16:39 |
| rwellum | +1 inc0 - the kolla+cinder_ironic meeting has 25+ people attend with good feedback. | 16:39 |
| inc0 | because some good feedback was provided | 16:39 |
| Jeffrey4l | hrw, thanks. i will check this later. | 16:39 |
| inc0 | about how our current approach won't exactly work for everyone | 16:40 |
| inc0 | but we have ideas so let's make it work this release in it's full potential | 16:40 |
| Jeffrey4l | here it is the origial bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/mount-sources | 16:40 |
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| inc0 | we have volunteers in Ironic and Cinder that wants to work with us on it and move their dev to it early | 16:40 |
| inc0 | right now I'm experimenting with mounting full venvs;) | 16:41 |
| inc0 | (with mixed results :() | 16:41 |
| inc0 | anyway, it's a good effort that will improve OpenStack en large so let's make it great | 16:41 |
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| inc0 | pbourke: do you want to be leader of this effort? | 16:41 |
| rwellum | sbezverk: scroll up a bit and you'll see quite a bit of discussion about images fyi | 16:42 |
| inc0 | (if not, I can do it, but it's your child:)) | 16:42 |
| Jeffrey4l | did we decide which solution we will use? | 16:42 |
| inc0 | no, not really | 16:43 |
| inc0 | we have ideas and problems to solve | 16:43 |
| Jeffrey4l | roger. | 16:43 |
| inc0 | ok, for now I'll be contact point for devmode | 16:43 |
| inc0 | next one, gates | 16:43 |
| inc0 | we discussed 2 big thigns regarding gates | 16:44 |
| inc0 | 1. run tempest scenarios | 16:44 |
| jamesbenson | +1 | 16:44 |
| sbezverk | rwellum: I do not see the scroll back since session was disconnected. | 16:44 |
| inc0 | since we want to build scenario-based gates (framework for that is already implemented) | 16:44 |
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| inc0 | we can create sets of globals.yml/overrides + tempest confs for per-scenario testing | 16:45 |
| inc0 | that will also work as documentation later | 16:45 |
| inc0 | 2. upgrade gates | 16:45 |
| inc0 | I, for one, really really (really) want to see full release upgrade tested in gates | 16:46 |
| rwellum | sbezverk: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-queens-ptg-images | 16:46 |
| inc0 | also with different scenarios | 16:46 |
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| inc0 | ah one more thing we discussed, I don't think there is huge value in testing deployment of all binary+source in kolla-ansible gates | 16:46 |
| Jeffrey4l | one issue for kolla right now is: we support multi disro * multi type. this will generate lots of jobs :( | 16:47 |
| inc0 | we could free up these resources and test more scenarios I think | 16:47 |
| inc0 | right, that's why ^ | 16:47 |
| Jeffrey4l | then which one will be dropped? | 16:47 |
| inc0 | we can do just ubuntu and centos source | 16:47 |
| inc0 | so 2 jobs per scenario | 16:48 |
| inc0 | (have oracle and binary in kolla images) | 16:48 |
| Jeffrey4l | then does this mean kolla claims that it don't support binary anymore? | 16:48 |
| inc0 | since there is no difference whatsoever in deployment logic per binary/source, I don't see value in having it in kolla-ansible gates | 16:49 |
| inc0 | I'd rather have daily jobs to test sanity of it | 16:49 |
| inc0 | instead of per commit CI | 16:49 |
| egonzalez | inc0, things changes between binary and source, distros sometimes drops things we use | 16:49 |
| hrw | inc0: binary tests daily should be fine as those packages do not change more often rather | 16:49 |
| egonzalez | in example apache when we use serverlet | 16:49 |
| inc0 | that's monitoring/periodic sanity testing not CI | 16:50 |
| britthouser | So you're saying keep the multi distro * type in kolla gate, but simplify kolla-ansible gate to just ubunut + centos source? | 16:50 |
| inc0 | CI testing is to check if patch is correct | 16:50 |
| inc0 | and since kolla-ansible doesn't have any different deployment logic for binary vs source or cenots vs oracle | 16:50 |
| inc0 | I'd like to stick to CI jobs that are relevant for kolla-ansible code changes | 16:50 |
| inc0 | right britthouser | 16:50 |
| Jeffrey4l | inc0, it has, especially in kolla's Dockerfile. but not much | 16:51 |
| inc0 | Dockerfiles are in kolla, not kolla-ansible | 16:51 |
| Jeffrey4l | britthouser, is a not idea. | 16:51 |
| inc0 | that's what I'm sayin | 16:51 |
| inc0 | g | 16:51 |
| Jeffrey4l | britthouser, is a good idea. | 16:51 |
| vhosakot | britthouser is a great idea :) | 16:51 |
| britthouser | is not my idea. =) Just restating inc0 to make sure I understood. =) | 16:52 |
| inc0 | moreover, we could have very detailed testing in periodic job and have dashboard rather than per-commit test | 16:52 |
| vhosakot | so, I like the idea of this type of gating... helps monitoring/health chacking | 16:52 |
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| inc0 | bottom line is, from kolla-ansible gates we drop binary and other stuff like that | 16:52 |
| inc0 | we limit gates to centos-source and ubuntu-source | 16:53 |
| inc0 | and increase number of different scenarios instead | 16:53 |
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| inc0 | it's going to be more valuable | 16:53 |
| Jeffrey4l | +1 | 16:53 |
| inc0 | last but not least, stability testing | 16:53 |
| britthouser | seems reasonable. Make kolla-ansible choose a smaller number of distro/types, but more permutations of scenarios | 16:53 |
| inc0 | I mentioned scenario-based docs and scenario-based gates | 16:54 |
| inc0 | now scenario-based manual testing before release | 16:54 |
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| inc0 | we need to create a matrix of different scenratios (globals.yml+tempest) | 16:54 |
| britthouser | Would it also be reasonable to have kolla gate include a single scenario? | 16:54 |
| britthouser | but run that scenario on all the distro/types? | 16:54 |
| inc0 | britthouser: it does now and it will | 16:54 |
| inc0 | we need deployment smoketest for sure | 16:55 |
| inc0 | we can have periodic | 16:55 |
| inc0 | too | 16:55 |
| inc0 | for detailed | 16:55 |
| inc0 | I'll ask infra about that | 16:55 |
| inc0 | anyway | 16:55 |
| britthouser | yeah having a bunch of stuff coded up we can run manually on RC would be good. | 16:55 |
| britthouser | s/run/trigger/ | 16:55 |
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| inc0 | with release testing goal is to lower barrier of testing for people who aren't super faimilar with kolla | 16:56 |
| vhosakot | inc0: periodic meaning, experimental scenario-based gates? | 16:56 |
| inc0 | which means, pre-defined configs | 16:56 |
| Jeffrey4l | vhosakot, it means run daily or weekly automatically. | 16:56 |
| gema | inc0: one scenario can be the linaro reference architecture | 16:57 |
| gema | I was planning to do this anyway for us | 16:57 |
| gema | and our members | 16:57 |
| vhosakot | Jeffrey4l: how can we do that? using flags in gates (experimental?) | 16:57 |
| gema | something they can easily grab and stand a cloud from for testing | 16:57 |
| jamesbenson | will the test run before/after pushing to docker? if it fails, could we stop it from pushing? | 16:57 |
| Jeffrey4l | zuul supports periodic pipeline vhosakot | 16:57 |
| inc0 | jamesbenson: different topics | 16:58 |
| vhosakot | Jeffrey4l: ah, zuul magic.. cool | 16:58 |
| jamesbenson | roger | 16:58 |
| inc0 | anyway, we didn't get to kolla-k8s, we'll make summary on next meeting | 16:58 |
| gema | inc0: we could do a basic cloud (no HA) and an HA simple cloud, with/without ceph | 16:58 |
| inc0 | gema: right, that's the idea | 16:59 |
| gema | then run tempest on it | 16:59 |
| vhosakot | inc0: I really like to add a simple L2/L3 scenario first in our gate other than jus booting a nova VM. We should also create a FIP, SSH into the VM, and ping the internet (google) to make sure L3 end-to-end works. | 16:59 |
| gema | maybe not all tempest, just interop tests | 16:59 |
| gema | a subset | 16:59 |
| inc0 | yes | 16:59 |
| gema | very easy to do with refstack client | 16:59 |
| jamesbenson | love the idea and been trying to do tempest on my stuff, but no experience with it. so it's hard. | 16:59 |
| inc0 | again, that's the idea | 16:59 |
| gema | once we have a nice tempest template conf | 16:59 |
| inc0 | anyway, I need to cut it short | 16:59 |
| inc0 | we ran out of time | 16:59 |
| gema | jamesbenson: we are working on an automatic config generator | 16:59 |
| inc0 | thank you all for coming! let's move to Kolla channel | 17:00 |
| inc0 | #endmeeting kolla | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 20 17:00:12 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-09-20-15.59.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-09-20-15.59.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-09-20-15.59.log.html | 17:00 |
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