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| markus_z | #startmeeting nova-bugs-team | 08:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 16 08:01:10 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markus_z. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova-bugs-team)" | 08:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_bugs_team' | 08:01 |
| macsz | o/ | 08:01 |
| markus_z | good morning folks | 08:01 |
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| markus_z | let's do a quick info round | 08:01 |
| markus_z | #topic info round | 08:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "info round (Meeting topic: nova-bugs-team)" | 08:01 | |
| markus_z | #info overall 656 bug reports | 08:02 |
| markus_z | #info 38 untriaged bug reports | 08:02 |
| markus_z | #info milestone N-3 in ~2 weeks | 08:02 |
| markus_z | #help volunteers for the rotating bug-skimming-duty needed: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Weekly_bug_skimming_duty | 08:02 |
| markus_z | #action markus_z find a date for a bug triage day as prep for the RC phase shortly after N-3 | 08:02 |
| markus_z | macsz: wanna add something from your bug skimming from last week? | 08:03 |
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| markus_z | thanks again for doing that btw | 08:03 |
| macsz | was one attention needed, but johnthetubaguy resolved that | 08:03 |
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| macsz | other than additional one spam account - not ;) | 08:04 |
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| markus_z | what do you mean with "spam account"? | 08:04 |
| macsz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1611888 | 08:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1611888 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "1844-887-9236 Quickbooks Activation Support Phone Number" [Undecided,Invalid] | 08:05 |
| markus_z | :D I'm bookmarking that | 08:05 |
| macsz | there is another one from this guy | 08:05 |
| macsz | ;) | 08:05 |
| markus_z | hehe, the perks of bug skimming duty, you see that as the first ;) | 08:06 |
| macsz | and question | 08:06 |
| markus_z | sure, go ahead | 08:06 |
| macsz | according to launchpad FAQ | 08:06 |
| macsz | it seems that we do not have anyone in power to deal with this directly, right? | 08:06 |
| macsz | so - do we have to report everything to canonical? | 08:07 |
| markus_z | you mean some kind of Launchpad in-build spam protection? | 08:07 |
| macsz | https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad - i have seen that a lot of people report spam here | 08:07 |
| macsz | but did not see any note if this is a standard procedure | 08:07 |
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| macsz | rather a guy that can ban account | 08:08 |
| macsz | per project | 08:08 |
| markus_z | hm, I'm not aware of any standard procedure. | 08:09 |
| macsz | it is a nit, this question, out of mine curiosity, lets not hang on it for too long ;) | 08:09 |
| markus_z | To be honest, I would just close that stuff and move on | 08:09 |
| macsz | yup, go ahead | 08:10 |
| macsz | oh, i thought you refer to our meeting, not bugs | 08:10 |
| macsz | i can handle closing spams | 08:10 |
| markus_z | Bringing that up in meetings like this one or #nova and make fun of it is good enough I think :) | 08:10 |
| macsz | it;s 3am so ignore my jibbering | 08:10 |
| markus_z | uh, that's pretty early :| | 08:10 |
| markus_z | #link funny spam: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1611888 | 08:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1611888 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "1844-887-9236 Quickbooks Activation Support Phone Number" [Undecided,Invalid] | 08:11 |
| macsz | :D | 08:11 |
| markus_z | #topic last weeks action items | 08:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "last weeks action items (Meeting topic: nova-bugs-team)" | 08:11 | |
| markus_z | I could clean up some of the stale "in progress" bug reports http://45.55.105.55:8082/bugs-dashboard.html#tabInProgressStale | 08:12 |
| markus_z | Will spent a bit more time this week on that | 08:12 |
| markus_z | moshele got poked (this morning) in #nova. He will add these bug reports to the sriov subteam meeting: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1572826 https:/ bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1582822 | 08:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1572826 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "dev name in the pci whitelist is not honored for SRIOV" [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to Moshe Levi (moshele) | 08:12 |
| markus_z | I started a change series which intents to make reproducing scenarios easier: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/305967/ | 08:13 |
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| markus_z | The next one will be a live-migration setup with two nodes | 08:14 |
| markus_z | #topic bug report discussions | 08:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bug report discussions (Meeting topic: nova-bugs-team)" | 08:14 | |
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| markus_z | I thought it could be useful to discuss some specific bugs to share some knowledge | 08:14 |
| markus_z | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1608726 | 08:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1608726 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Confusing error message in BadRequest during floating ip assignment" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Augustina Ragwitz (auggy) | 08:15 |
| markus_z | ^ I learned that a REST API call doesn't wait for other calls to finish | 08:15 |
| markus_z | There is no pipeline where the API calls get pushed into and finished one after the other | 08:16 |
| macsz | other calls? | 08:16 |
| macsz | ah got it | 08:16 |
| markus_z | Other REST API calls | 08:16 |
| markus_z | The discussion in that bug report has a bit more details. | 08:17 |
| markus_z | Another bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1610332 | 08:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1610332 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Can't disable nova quotas" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Zhihai Song (szhsong) | 08:17 |
| markus_z | I learned that "-1" has a special meaning in some config opts | 08:18 |
| markus_z | That special meaning could be a "deactivate" or "unlimited" or something like that | 08:18 |
| macsz | ouch | 08:19 |
| markus_z | Be aware of that when you set "min" or "value" of a config option | 08:19 |
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| macsz | a lot of patches focusing on this came up recently | 08:19 |
| macsz | i will try to re-review them again tomorrow | 08:19 |
| markus_z | yes, true, the progress of them is at http://45.55.105.55:8082/config-options.html | 08:20 |
| markus_z | Not bug related but maybe good to know | 08:20 |
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| markus_z | #help https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1608934 got when/how introduced in stable/mitaka | 08:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1608934 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "ephemeral disk creation fails for local storage with image type raw/lvm" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Dr. Jens Rosenboom (j-rosenboom-j) | 08:21 |
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| markus_z | frickler asked me that in #nova, he couldn't join today's meeting | 08:21 |
| markus_z | #action markus_z bisect https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1608934 | 08:22 |
| markus_z | #topic open round | 08:22 |
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| markus_z | The free-for-all topic | 08:22 |
| markus_z | new contributor who likes to have mentoring or has general bug triage questions? | 08:22 |
| markus_z | reviews for urgent bug fixes which needs attention? | 08:22 |
| markus_z | your call | 08:23 |
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| * markus_z waits patiently | 08:23 | |
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| macsz | well, i think it is just us :D | 08:24 |
| macsz | i have no further questions ;) | 08:24 |
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| markus_z | :) yeah, think so too. No lurkers around. | 08:25 |
| markus_z | Let's call it a day | 08:25 |
| markus_z | closing in 3... | 08:25 |
| macsz | yup :) | 08:25 |
| macsz | have a nice day, markus_z | 08:25 |
| markus_z | #info next meeting August 23rd (Tuesday) 1800 UTC https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova/BugsTeam | 08:25 |
| markus_z | macsz: thanks, same to you! | 08:25 |
| markus_z | #endmeeting | 08:25 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 16 08:25:54 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:25 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2016/nova_bugs_team.2016-08-16-08.01.html | 08:25 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2016/nova_bugs_team.2016-08-16-08.01.txt | 08:25 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2016/nova_bugs_team.2016-08-16-08.01.log.html | 08:25 |
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| EmilienM | #startmeeting puppet-openstack | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 16 15:00:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'puppet_openstack' | 15:00 |
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| EmilienM | #topic https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-weekly-meeting-20160816 | 15:00 |
| xarses | o/ | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | o/ | 15:00 |
| iurygregory | o/ | 15:00 |
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| chem | o/ | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | err | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-weekly-meeting-20160816 | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | #topic Puppet Application module proposal | 15:00 |
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| xarses | I wanted to socialize my proposal to add a puppet application orchestrator module. | 15:00 |
| xarses | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-August/101670.html | 15:00 |
| xarses | My goal is to create generic "applications" that wrap the different openstack services so that we can leverage the new orchestration components in puppet | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | beside socialize, do you have code handy? | 15:01 |
| xarses | I just saw your reply a few min ago EmilienM | 15:01 |
| xarses | nothing that works directly with openstack yet, I wanted to start here | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | I'm wondering about several things | 15:01 |
| xarses | There is a complicated wordpress example that might show some insight | 15:02 |
| chem | this is based on the new PE orchestrator feature, which has no hope of becoming FOSS as far as I understand | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | app orchestration can work with full open source puppet ? | 15:02 |
| chem | is that correct ? | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | maybe _ody or Hunner are around? | 15:02 |
| xarses | Yes, it can work with FOSS pupppet, it requires a deployer | 15:02 |
| xarses | a component which is only ready for use in PE | 15:02 |
| chem | when I've been to the puppet camp in paris the answer was very blurry | 15:03 |
| _ody | I be walkinf | 15:03 |
| xarses | ri is working on making one | 15:03 |
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| xarses | #link https://github.com/ripienaar/mcollective-choria | 15:03 |
| chem | like "maybe", later and only part of it ? | 15:03 |
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| xarses | besides the deployer, all of the language bindings are already in FOSS puppet | 15:04 |
| xarses | but that is puppet 4.4 | 15:04 |
| _ody | It's not a maybe, it's happening. | 15:04 |
| chem | yes but useless without the client tool, no ? | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | we barely make our CI working with puppet 4 :-) | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | xarses: do you have an example of workflow that would be in this module? | 15:05 |
| chem | os mcollective-choria would be the FOSS version of the PE tooling ? | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | I would like to understand if it's a stackforge/puppet-openstack bis | 15:05 |
| _ody | There are multiple community implementations of the deployer and we are ramping up the development on another. | 15:05 |
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| EmilienM | _ody: any link? | 15:06 |
| xarses | EmilienM: the model would be that we define some generic relationships in a 'application' this maps relations between amqp & db to the primary serivce, and then the service would relate to it's load balancer | 15:07 |
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| EmilienM | what load balancer? | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | my point is that it's being opinionated | 15:07 |
| _ody | Not on hand. Choria is one and there is another but they are both mcollective based. | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | ok so we would have to add a new external dependency to our forge (and CI) ? | 15:08 |
| * beagles sort of lurks | 15:08 | |
| xarses | we'd create the relationships, and define some common components and applications to provide some generic components for other people to consume | 15:09 |
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| _ody | And multinode ci too. Kinda a requirement for this. | 15:09 |
| xarses | for example, this is a really bare application definition | 15:09 |
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| chem | I would very much like to be able to use the orchestrator, It's a killer feature, but the future of the foss version supported by puppet is very very unclear. | 15:09 |
| xarses | of me playing with it so far | 15:09 |
| xarses | #link https://github.com/xarses/paoos/blob/master/manifests/init.pp | 15:09 |
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| EmilienM | ah so you have a PoC ;-) | 15:10 |
| xarses | uh, thats just pumbing testing so far | 15:10 |
| iurygregory | but can be a PoC =) | 15:10 |
| xarses | I can put more meat into it if thats the what you'd like to see | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | _ody: we already have multinode CI, with Fuel and TripleO. | 15:11 |
| xarses | here is a complicated wordpress example | 15:11 |
| xarses | #link https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetlabs-wordpress_app | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | I agree with chem though, some insights from puppetlabs would be great on this side | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | I'm still concerned about a puppet-openstack bis module | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | too opinionated to be used in production by our community and not maintained enough | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | but I like the idea of multinode thing | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | couldn't we add something within our modules? | 15:13 |
| xarses | It would make them require puppet4 | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | some optional classes (apps?) to deploy a component? | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | not if you don't use the class in your catalog | 15:13 |
| iurygregory | murano apps make sense? | 15:13 |
| _ody | PAO applications are less opinionated then your old standard composite module because the architecture is not static. | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | iurygregory: I'm not sure it's in this context. | 15:13 |
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| iurygregory | EmilienM, ok ^^ | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | _ody: s/your/our/ | 15:14 |
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| _ody | Yeah | 15:14 |
| _ody | On phone | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | it was created by puppetlabs ;-) | 15:14 |
| _ody | Typo, seriously. | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | cool np | 15:15 |
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| EmilienM | before creating a new repo I would like to see a more concrete PoC | 15:15 |
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| xarses | So it seems people are interested, should I continue on my own? | 15:15 |
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| EmilienM | also, I would like some vision on roadmap around orchestration | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | chem's question has not been answered | 15:15 |
| xarses | Ok, does anyone want to participate with me before then? | 15:15 |
| xarses | which? | 15:16 |
| _ody | I'd like to see a more robust poc being coded in the open where the community can watch progress and learn. | 15:16 |
| xarses | oh, the future foss vision from puppet(labs)? | 15:16 |
| chem | yes, because without the official client tooling (included only in PE) you have to rely on third party plugin (mcollectived based) . So we should choose one third party plugin and then support it as well to make sure that everything is working. how that would work in the CI ? | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | specially orchestrator | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | in CI and also for our community, it sounds like a critical choice | 15:17 |
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| _ody | I'll get product to weigh in from puppet. I've actually been talking with them a lot on the subject lately. | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | please use the ML's thread | 15:17 |
| _ody | Kk | 15:18 |
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| EmilienM | the idea of doing multi node orchestration is really exciting! though we might want to not repeat the same mistakes as we did | 15:19 |
| xarses | I'd like to not also, that's why I wanted to raise this early in the process | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | great | 15:19 |
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| EmilienM | if you really want an incubator OpenStack repo, we can create it but I think it's not the priority #1 | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | if there is > 1 person actually interested by it, then an incubator repo would be useful | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | else, do it on your github now | 15:21 |
| _ody | I'd like to collaborate. Been doing this for my internal OpenStack too. | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | maybe can you provide an example with a keystone server | 15:21 |
| chem | and explain how to deploy it with foss tooling :) | 15:21 |
| _ody | We've also been using OpenStack as our base application internally for orchestrator feature improvement and bug discovery. | 15:22 |
| EmilienM | one thing we might not want is to engage upstream efforts for something that is not fully open source | 15:22 |
| EmilienM | if puppetlabs wants people to use orchestration and OpenStack to develop puppet modules that support it, make it FOSS | 15:23 |
| EmilienM | our community is working hard to make everything in the open | 15:23 |
| EmilienM | I don't know why it would be a single direction effort | 15:24 |
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| EmilienM | and choosing a third party plugin that we are not sure about is definitly not a direction we would take | 15:24 |
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| EmilienM | unless we have more vision on this area, I'm not sure we'll work on this topic | 15:25 |
| _ody | I also don't want something intended to be open source, be code in the dark then "presented" to the community accept. | 15:26 |
| _ody | That's why I asked for further PoC to be open | 15:26 |
| EmilienM | _ody: xarses's effort is cool, what is not cool is that we're looking for third party plugins to replace something not open source | 15:27 |
| EmilienM | so either puppetlabs provides a vision on orchestrator tooling that we can officially use | 15:27 |
| EmilienM | or we will have to pick one and pray it will work for us | 15:27 |
| EmilienM | I'll follow up on the mailing list about that | 15:28 |
| EmilienM | do we have more questions / comments about #topic ? | 15:28 |
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| _ody | I'll follow up on mailing list. Just want to get feedback on how we can keep people involved during the PoC process. | 15:29 |
| xarses | ok, so next steps, come back with a more fruitful PoC and reconvene on the topic. | 15:29 |
| xarses | thanks | 15:29 |
| EmilienM | good | 15:30 |
| EmilienM | #topic open discussion | 15:30 |
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| EmilienM | do we have outstanding reviews / bugs this week? | 15:30 |
| EmilienM | I have an FYI: we finally got stable/hammer CI working again on puppet-ceph, heh! | 15:30 |
| iurygregory | great | 15:30 |
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| chem | we have the puppet 4.6 related bugs | 15:31 |
| iurygregory | i've put the trove authtoken patch | 15:31 |
| chem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/354872/ for instance | 15:31 |
| EmilienM | I reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/netbook-remix/+bug/355609 | 15:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 355609 in Ubuntu Netbook Remix "Interface responds slowly + display error in interface" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 15:32 |
| EmilienM | err wrong link | 15:32 |
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| EmilienM | but puppet 4.6 unit tests jobs are failing | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355617/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355609/ | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | I hate asking but it would be great to have a bit of support from puppetlabs sometimes | 15:33 |
| chem | I didn't have time to fill the bug upstream, yet, will do today. | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | chem: thanks for your time, hopefully we can get an eye on it quickly | 15:34 |
| iurygregory | https://bugs.launchpad.net/puppet-nova/+bug/1613329 | 15:34 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1613329 in puppet-nova "puppet 4.6.0 unit tests are broken" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Emilien Macchi (emilienm) | 15:34 |
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| EmilienM | ah, thanks | 15:34 |
| iurygregory | np | 15:34 |
| EmilienM | I had to do https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355609/3/manifests/db.pp to fix unit tests | 15:35 |
| EmilienM | might something with rspec, I'll dig into it later this week | 15:35 |
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| EmilienM | anything else for this week ? I'll let meeting open 30s in case | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | Hunner: something to say about puppet 4.6? | 15:36 |
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| iurygregory | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/346685/10/manifests/keystone/authtoken.pp Lines 280-282 | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | ok, hunner mentioned on #puppet-openstack that puppet 4.6 is broken | 15:37 |
| EmilienM | great ! | 15:37 |
| Hunner | o/ | 15:37 |
| EmilienM | ah | 15:37 |
| iurygregory | if any core have option, the authtoken class should handle other configurations besides keystone_authtoken section? | 15:37 |
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| EmilienM | iurygregory: will look at it | 15:37 |
| chem | ditoo | 15:37 |
| Hunner | I'll have more details on 4.6.0 brokenness in a bit | 15:37 |
| iurygregory | EmilienM, tks :D | 15:37 |
| chem | Hunner: so no need for a bug report ? | 15:38 |
| EmilienM | Hunner: please use openstack-dev ML with [puppet] tag, would be awesome | 15:38 |
| EmilienM | chem: please report the bug anyway, it will still help for history & tracking | 15:38 |
| chem | ack, I'll do it short then :) | 15:38 |
| EmilienM | I'm about to close the meeting | 15:38 |
| EmilienM | thanks everyone | 15:39 |
| EmilienM | #endmeeting | 15:39 |
| iurygregory | tks o/ | 15:39 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 16 15:39:06 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-08-16-15.00.html | 15:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-08-16-15.00.txt | 15:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-08-16-15.00.log.html | 15:39 |
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| dougwig | mpbnka: just got to ireland for the neutron midcycle, about to pass out. can someone else chair today? :) | 16:13 |
| mpbnka | haha no problem. | 16:14 |
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