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acabot | #startmeeting watcher | 09:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 17 09:00:27 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is acabot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' | 09:00 |
acabot | hello guys | 09:00 |
alexchadin | hi | 09:00 |
jinquan | hi | 09:00 |
vincentfrancoise | o/ | 09:00 |
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acabot | agenda for today #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#08.2F17.2F2016 | 09:01 |
acabot | #topic Announcements | 09:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:01 | |
acabot | #info alexchadin is now core on Watcher | 09:01 |
acabot | congrats ! | 09:01 |
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alexchadin | wow | 09:01 |
alexchadin | thanks! | 09:01 |
jinquan | alexchadin: congrats!!! | 09:02 |
acabot | you should have a +/- 2 option in gerrit ;-) | 09:02 |
dtardivel | hi | 09:02 |
alexchadin | thank you, guys! | 09:02 |
vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: welcome to the club :D | 09:03 |
acabot | #info please vote for promoting hvprash as core on watcher-specs | 09:03 |
acabot | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-August/101750.html | 09:03 |
alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: no one speak about club :D | 09:03 |
alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: rule 1 | 09:03 |
vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: hahahaha | 09:03 |
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acabot | #info we now have 5 core contributors for Watcher jed56, dtardivel, vincentfrancoise, alexchadin & gzhai | 09:04 |
acabot | any other announcement ? | 09:04 |
jed56 | alexchadin: :) | 09:04 |
acabot | #rtopic Review Action Items | 09:05 |
acabot | #topic Review Action Items | 09:05 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:05 | |
acabot | Watcher specs | 09:05 |
acabot | Graph model describing virtual and physical elements in a data center needs a new PS and final reviews | 09:05 |
acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298891/ | 09:05 |
acabot | #action acabot send an email to greg to get an update on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298891/ | 09:06 |
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acabot | Update define-the-audit-scope spec needs reviews from core | 09:06 |
acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339456/ | 09:06 |
acabot | #action sballe jwcroppe acabot review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339456/ | 09:06 |
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acabot | Added spec for automatic triggering audit needs a new PS | 09:07 |
acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342473/ | 09:07 |
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acabot | diga told me that he will update the spec today | 09:08 |
acabot | #action diga__ add a new PS to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342473/ | 09:08 |
acabot | Limit concurrent actions invoked by Watcher needs reviews | 09:08 |
acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348049/ | 09:08 |
hanrong | +1 | 09:08 |
acabot | anyone wants to review it ? | 09:08 |
acabot | #action hanrong review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348049/ | 09:09 |
gzhai-mobl | i | 09:09 |
acabot | #action gzhai-mobl review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348049/ | 09:09 |
acabot | thx | 09:09 |
acabot | Move Mitaka specs to Newton cycle & Add ocata folders and template for specs need +2 | 09:09 |
acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/353454/ | 09:09 |
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acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/353320/ | 09:10 |
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acabot | #action sballe jwcroppe +2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/353454/ & https://review.openstack.org/#/c/353320/ | 09:10 |
acabot | Watcher | 09:10 |
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acabot | Add Scoring Module implementation needs more reviews | 09:10 |
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acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351577/ | 09:11 |
acabot | who wants to review it ? | 09:11 |
hanrong | +1 | 09:11 |
acabot | #action hanrong review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351577/ | 09:11 |
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vincentfrancoise | I will too | 09:11 |
acabot | #action vincentfrancoise review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351577/ | 09:11 |
acabot | Added Monasca Helper has to be merged | 09:11 |
acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348891/ | 09:11 |
acabot | because we need it for benchmarks in september | 09:12 |
dtardivel | acabot: I will review it | 09:12 |
acabot | #action dtardivel review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348891/ | 09:12 |
acabot | anyone else wants to review ? gzhai-mobl ? | 09:12 |
gzhai-mobl | gave comments | 09:12 |
alexchadin | I'll take a look | 09:12 |
acabot | ok thx | 09:13 |
acabot | #action alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348891/ | 09:13 |
acabot | Added strategy ID + Action Plan syncing needs reviews | 09:13 |
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acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/325213/ | 09:13 |
jinquan | i will review this one | 09:13 |
dtardivel | acabot: I will review it too | 09:13 |
acabot | #action jinquan dtardivel review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/325213/ | 09:14 |
acabot | thx | 09:14 |
acabot | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion | 09:14 |
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acabot | #info current milestone is n-3 due August 29th | 09:14 |
acabot | #link https://launchpad.net/watcher/+milestone/newton-3 | 09:14 |
acabot | I would suggest to freeze the code on Friday 26th | 09:15 |
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acabot | in 10 days | 09:15 |
acabot | alexchadin : are you confident to deliver the audit scope by Friday 26th ? | 09:16 |
jed56 | +1 | 09:16 |
alexchadin | I'll try to do it | 09:16 |
alexchadin | It depends on spec review | 09:16 |
acabot | I think we can merge the spec today if I got feedback from jwcroppe | 09:17 |
acabot | did you already start implementing ? | 09:18 |
alexchadin | A little bit | 09:18 |
acabot | ok lets keep it on n-3 then | 09:18 |
alexchadin | cool! | 09:19 |
acabot | gzhai-mobl : what about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/statemachine-transition-permission ? | 09:19 |
gzhai-mobl | not yet | 09:19 |
acabot | gzhai-mobl : did you start working on a spec ? | 09:19 |
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gzhai-mobl | sorry, have some other task | 09:19 |
gzhai-mobl | not yet | 09:20 |
acabot | ok | 09:20 |
gzhai-mobl | will start this week | 09:20 |
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acabot | #info I suggest to move all unimplemented BP to Ocata to keep our next Newton milestones empty and focus on bug fixes | 09:20 |
vincentfrancoise | +1 | 09:20 |
acabot | is that ok for you guys ? | 09:20 |
dtardivel | +1 | 09:21 |
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acabot | as we will have 17 BPs implemented in the Newton cycle, we need more tests before releasing the Newton version | 09:21 |
vincentfrancoise | we are closing in to our first big tent release so IMHO we should make things right :) | 09:21 |
acabot | +1 | 09:21 |
alexchadin | +2 | 09:21 |
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jinquan | +1 | 09:22 |
acabot | gzhai-mobl : is that OK for you ? just keep the scalability tests and bug fixes in september ? | 09:22 |
alexchadin | many of our open bugs have long store | 09:22 |
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gzhai-mobl | ok | 09:22 |
alexchadin | story* | 09:22 |
acabot | #action acabot move Automatic triggering Action Plans & Use a state machine to model Watcher objects lifecycle BPs to Ocata | 09:23 |
alexchadin | don't we need to review them? | 09:23 |
acabot | sure we can | 09:23 |
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acabot | there are 5 bugs open | 09:23 |
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alexchadin | I see 10 bugs | 09:24 |
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alexchadin | 3 of them are in wishlist/undecided | 09:24 |
acabot | alexchadin : right I was on the newton-3 panel | 09:24 |
acabot | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher | 09:24 |
acabot | jinquan : are you working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher/+bug/1599879 ? | 09:25 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1599879 in watcher "we should return FAILED status when we create an audit with unspecified parameters" [Medium,Triaged] - Assigned to Jinquan Ni (ni-jinquan) | 09:25 |
jinquan | yes, will done | 09:25 |
jinquan | this week | 09:25 |
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dtardivel | acabot: Fix on bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher/+bug/1600707 has been merged. We need to update its status | 09:27 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1600707 in watcher "use parameters to set the threshold for strategies of Airflow,workload and outlet temerature" [Undecided,Fix committed] - Assigned to junjie.huang (junjie-huang) | 09:27 |
acabot | :-) done | 09:28 |
acabot | sometimes gerrit trigger doesnt work... | 09:28 |
vincentfrancoise | BTW, the same kind of bug should be filed for the other strategies | 09:28 |
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acabot | alexchadin : any bug you want to discuss in particular ? | 09:29 |
alexchadin | acabot: I wouldn't for now | 09:29 |
alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: +1 | 09:29 |
acabot | #action acabot do a bit of clean-up in bugs list ! | 09:30 |
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acabot | resize-overload-instance needs a new description and specs | 09:30 |
acabot | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/resize-overload-instance | 09:30 |
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acabot | jinquan : you probably had questions about it | 09:31 |
jinquan | acabot:yes i just discuss with vicent | 09:31 |
jinquan | vincent | 09:31 |
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jinquan | by the way , i should put the spec into newton folders or ocata folders(not merged)? | 09:32 |
acabot | jinquan : ok the main idea from the mid-cycle was that the description is unclear | 09:32 |
acabot | put the spec in ocata | 09:32 |
acabot | now every new spec must be in Ocata (I will try to have the folders merged today) | 09:33 |
jinquan | when the folder will merged? | 09:33 |
jinquan | acabot: ok get it! | 09:33 |
vincentfrancoise | FYI, I just created https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher/+bug/1614021 | 09:33 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1614021 in watcher "Remove hardcoded strategy attributes and promote them strategy parameters" [Medium,New] | 09:33 |
acabot | #action jinquan write a spec for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/resize-overload-instance | 09:33 |
acabot | thx vincentfrancoise | 09:34 |
acabot | #topic Open discussions | 09:34 |
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acabot | #info email sent to Monasca PTL to get a status on Ceilosca code | 09:35 |
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alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: I will ask my colleagues, maybe some of them will take this bug | 09:35 |
vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: that would be great! | 09:35 |
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acabot | I 've got a first answer saying that HPE team working on Ceilosca has already fix some bugs and performance isssues and they plan to push them upstream | 09:36 |
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acabot | he will come back to me next week with a timeframe | 09:36 |
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acabot | regarding scalability tests | 09:37 |
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acabot | dtardivel is working on scripts for gzhai-mobl | 09:37 |
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gzhai-mobl | ok | 09:37 |
acabot | gzhai-mobl : can we package PKB in a docker container ? | 09:38 |
gzhai-mobl | pkb? | 09:38 |
acabot | perfkit benchamrker | 09:38 |
acabot | to run scenarios | 09:38 |
gzhai-mobl | not sure | 09:38 |
acabot | the tool will run on top of openstack and call Nova API | 09:39 |
acabot | would you prefer a VM ? | 09:39 |
gzhai-mobl | container seems better | 09:39 |
gzhai-mobl | but, big difference? | 09:40 |
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acabot | it will be lighter but you need to have a docker engine deployed somewhere | 09:40 |
dtardivel | gzhai-mobl: OK, could you check this point from your side quickly please. I will push a container image today on our public repository. | 09:40 |
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gzhai-mobl | dtardivel: decision? | 09:41 |
gzhai-mobl | vm or container? | 09:41 |
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dtardivel | gzhai-mobl: yes please :) | 09:42 |
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acabot | #action gzhai-mobl check that we can use a docker container to run PKB on intel infrastructure | 09:42 |
gzhai-mobl | either is ok. i prefer vm as i didn't use container before | 09:42 |
gzhai-mobl | ok. i'll check | 09:43 |
acabot | thx | 09:43 |
acabot | any other open discussion to open ? | 09:43 |
dtardivel | gzhai-mobl: I will provide a README doc to explain how to use Docker and PKB. I will be simple | 09:43 |
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gzhai-mobl | dtardivel: thanks | 09:44 |
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acabot | ok so thank you guys | 09:45 |
acabot | have a good day | 09:45 |
dtardivel | bye | 09:45 |
gzhai-mobl | bye | 09:45 |
acabot | bye | 09:46 |
acabot | #endmeeting | 09:46 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 17 09:46:05 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:46 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-08-17-09.00.html | 09:46 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-08-17-09.00.txt | 09:46 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-08-17-09.00.log.html | 09:46 |
vincentfrancoise | bye | 09:46 |
alexchadin | bye | 09:46 |
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alex_xu | #startmeeting nova api | 13:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 17 13:00:41 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 13:00 |
cdent | o/ | 13:00 |
alex_xu | who is here today? | 13:00 |
edleafe | \o | 13:01 |
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alex_xu | I start the meeting in a wrong channel again... | 13:01 |
sdague | o/ | 13:01 |
alex_xu | ok, let us start the meeting | 13:01 |
alex_xu | #topic API Priorities | 13:02 |
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jichen | o/ | 13:02 |
alex_xu | sdague: what about the client for deprecation api? | 13:02 |
sdague | we've landed the 2 patches needed to talk to glance / neutron directly for name -> id lookup | 13:03 |
alex_xu | sdague: cool, the situation is really complex than what I thought... | 13:04 |
sdague | which is the prereq for not going to the network API | 13:04 |
sdague | yes | 13:04 |
sdague | the name -> id lookup was something we forgot was done at the CLI layer | 13:04 |
sdague | but, on the upside, that all seems to work | 13:04 |
alex_xu | cool | 13:04 |
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sdague | the client patch that adds the nova network downgrade is posted, and I think close | 13:05 |
alex_xu | what means downgrade? | 13:05 |
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sdague | if nova-net, all network calls are automatically made a 2.35 | 13:06 |
alex_xu | sdague: ah, got it | 13:06 |
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alex_xu | sdague: is that all about cli for deprecated api? | 13:07 |
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sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347514/ - is the patch in question | 13:08 |
sdague | I guess it's still failing jenkins | 13:08 |
sdague | alex_xu: no, I think that's it | 13:08 |
alex_xu | sdague: there probably needs some patch for image and baremetal etc | 13:08 |
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sdague | no, for those we just fail | 13:09 |
sdague | the point is that if you have a nova-network cloud, just failing network calls isn't an option | 13:09 |
alex_xu | sdague: yes, just fail | 13:09 |
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alex_xu | sdague: the fail just make it return 404, or add decorator to limit the cli supported version? | 13:10 |
alex_xu | actually I mean the second one | 13:10 |
sdague | no, the idea is the client will just fail | 13:10 |
sdague | the 404 will pop back | 13:11 |
sdague | these have been deprecated for a while | 13:11 |
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alex_xu | sdague: whether 404 confuse for user, this may not the fault of user, it is the fault for server side | 13:12 |
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sdague | alex_xu: it might, but we've had deprecation here for a long time | 13:14 |
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alex_xu | sdague: ok, so what about volume/fping, we say deprecate them before | 13:15 |
alex_xu | s/we say/we didn't say/ | 13:15 |
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sdague | I thought volume was basically already deleted | 13:16 |
alex_xu | ok | 13:16 |
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sdague | I think this is the path we have. Client goes to freeze within 2 weeks | 13:16 |
sdague | if there are bugs we can fix them later as bug fixes | 13:16 |
cdent | people can always choose to use an older version | 13:16 |
cdent | (of the code, not microversion) | 13:17 |
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cdent | we cater too much on this front | 13:17 |
alex_xu | cdent: ok | 13:18 |
alex_xu | good point also | 13:18 |
alex_xu | sdague: ok, just follow that plan | 13:18 |
edleafe | cdent: +1 | 13:18 |
alex_xu | so let's move on? | 13:19 |
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alex_xu | for user_id based enforcement, we just left few patches | 13:20 |
alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/user_id_based_policy_enforcement | 13:20 |
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alex_xu | sdague johnthetubaguy: have we said we will remove existed user_id support, and that not in the list? | 13:20 |
alex_xu | i remember we said leave it alone | 13:21 |
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alex_xu | mriedem: welcome | 13:22 |
alex_xu | mriedem: do you remember whether we said we will remove existed user_id support, and those check are not in the list? | 13:22 |
sdague | right, I think this is a little bit of a grey space. | 13:23 |
sdague | because we didn't know all of those when we did the spec | 13:23 |
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sdague | so, I'll be honest, the thing I'd really like to see (in an ideal world) is a patch that warns if there is a user_id based polity for a policy point that doesn't support it | 13:23 |
sdague | so people that don't get the message via release notes would get it in their logs | 13:24 |
alex_xu | sdague: yea, that sounds nice for people | 13:25 |
sdague | alex_xu: we'd need someone to do it though | 13:25 |
alex_xu | note, we already merge one patch for remove user_id support... | 13:25 |
sdague | I suspect I'm pinned down on the client stuff this week, and next week is openstack east + ops summit, so I'll be out of a normal dev flow | 13:26 |
alex_xu | sdague: yes, I will take care those user_id based enforcment patches, gmann is not available in next one week or two. | 13:26 |
sdague | mriedem: opinions on the remove of existing user_id rules ? | 13:26 |
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mriedem | i haven't followed that series at all | 13:26 |
sdague | mriedem: so, the question is | 13:26 |
mriedem | i thought the list of things from the spec was not meant to be comprehensive | 13:26 |
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mriedem | but was signed off by ops | 13:26 |
sdague | we had a spec that said "we'll make these support this" | 13:27 |
sdague | then there was interpretation about "what about the places we already were doing this not in that list" | 13:27 |
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alex_xu | sdague: we are lucky that patch merged failed | 13:27 |
alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/354662/ | 13:27 |
sdague | I'm fine not landing the removes | 13:27 |
mriedem | so server start | 13:27 |
mriedem | so the spec had a subset of destructive actions on a server | 13:28 |
mriedem | turns out there are already some places we allow this for other non-destructive actions, like starting a server | 13:28 |
sdague | right | 13:28 |
mriedem | so jim bob can start joe bob's server and now joe bob is getting billed | 13:28 |
mriedem | (maybe) | 13:28 |
sdague | joe bob isn't getting billed | 13:28 |
sdague | because usage is collected at a project level | 13:28 |
mriedem | and the question is, do we remove or just warn? | 13:28 |
sdague | the use case is catch all, don't care about utilization / quota for individuals | 13:29 |
mriedem | at this point in the cycle i'd rather just leave the functionality that's in place there | 13:29 |
mriedem | if we want to warn, whatever | 13:29 |
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sdague | mriedem: right, so I agree probably don't rush this one | 13:29 |
sdague | mriedem: to be clear, my warn concern is not for these actions | 13:29 |
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sdague | it's for policy points where they specify user_id, but we don't ever evaluate user_id | 13:30 |
mriedem | ok | 13:30 |
mriedem | that makes sense | 13:30 |
mriedem | +1 for that then yeah | 13:30 |
sdague | alex_xu: ok, so I think we don't do the removes | 13:30 |
mriedem | "you're doing something that isn't checked" | 13:30 |
alex_xu | sdague: yea, cool | 13:30 |
sdague | I -2ed the bottom patch | 13:30 |
mriedem | having a false sense of policy enforncement | 13:30 |
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sdague | mriedem: right | 13:30 |
sdague | alex_xu: do you want to figure out if there is any reasonable way to do this warning before release? | 13:31 |
sdague | their may not be with the infrastructure we have | 13:31 |
alex_xu | sdague: yes, will do that | 13:31 |
sdague | but it would be good to investigate | 13:31 |
sdague | alex_xu: great, thank you | 13:31 |
alex_xu | #action alex_xu go to figure out if there is any reasonable way to do this warning before release | 13:32 |
alex_xu | sdague: np | 13:32 |
alex_xu | so we can move on? | 13:32 |
sdague | yes | 13:32 |
alex_xu | policy check cmd | 13:32 |
alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/322944/ | 13:32 |
alex_xu | I found it doesn't works for admin user | 13:32 |
alex_xu | do to we won't validate with keystone, then we don't know the role of user | 13:33 |
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alex_xu | s/do to/due to/ | 13:33 |
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alex_xu | maybe two options: 1, validate with keystone, 2, user specific the role by cmd args | 13:34 |
sdague | alex_xu: well, we were sure it wouldn't be perfect | 13:34 |
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sdague | honestly, I think I'd rather get this patch merged, and warn if you specify admin that this isn't accurate | 13:34 |
sdague | then figure out an admin path | 13:34 |
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sdague | instead of not land anything | 13:34 |
alex_xu | sdague: actually it doesn't work for any role | 13:35 |
sdague | oh.... | 13:35 |
alex_xu | how about this: nova-policy policy checks --user-id "..uuid.." --porject-id "..uuid.." --role "admin" "xyz"... | 13:36 |
alex_xu | everything input by user | 13:36 |
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sdague | alex_xu: that seems reasonable starting point | 13:37 |
sdague | I haven't seen claudio around in a bit, is anyone able to respin that | 13:37 |
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alex_xu | i'm ok with that | 13:37 |
sdague | ok, we still need someone to own this, otherwise it is unlikely to land | 13:39 |
alex_xu | yea, I will own this | 13:39 |
sdague | alex_xu: thank you | 13:40 |
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alex_xu | #action alex_xu help on the respin the policy check cmd patches | 13:40 |
alex_xu | sdague: np | 13:40 |
alex_xu | I think that is all we have before release? | 13:40 |
alex_xu | ok, i think that is all | 13:42 |
alex_xu | #topic open | 13:42 |
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alex_xu | anyone want to bring up something? | 13:42 |
alex_xu | cdent: sdague what is plan for placement API? merge them all, or just try our best? | 13:43 |
sdague | was was the last microversion we were going to land, after get me a network? | 13:43 |
alex_xu | sdague: ah, i forget that one | 13:43 |
edleafe | sdague: 2.38 | 13:43 |
cdent | alex_xu: the goal is to at least get inventories written | 13:43 |
edleafe | sdague: working on pushing that now | 13:43 |
sdague | edleafe: ok | 13:43 |
sdague | cdent: what is the patch where that happens? | 13:43 |
cdent | but most of the rest of the code is close, just waiting on some stuff to merge to make real progress | 13:43 |
sdague | so we can keep an eye on getting up to that point | 13:44 |
cdent | sdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329152/ | 13:44 |
alex_xu | edleafe: do you have link? | 13:44 |
alex_xu | cdent: cool | 13:44 |
cdent | that was in the stack you've already reviewed, but we've started to unstack so as to enable some parallelism | 13:44 |
cdent | but given the delay in the gate, the rebases are on hold | 13:44 |
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edleafe | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315964/ | 13:44 |
edleafe | alex_xu: ^^ | 13:44 |
alex_xu | edleafe: thanks | 13:44 |
cdent | sdague: that patch probably has the same issues with empty response bodies as the resource provider urls one | 13:45 |
cdent | related to the placement api I wanted to point at this https://gist.github.com/cdent/de50cb05a7ab8219cd4f5b4ab3c181dd | 13:45 |
cdent | that's a POC of microversion decorators in the placement api, based off the nova code, but modified for the differences | 13:46 |
sdague | ok, keeping in them in a stack actually makes it a little easier to know when we hit the finish line | 13:46 |
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cdent | it's incomplete, and there is no where to put it yet (as there are no versions) but I wanted to make sure people are aware that it is being thought about | 13:46 |
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cdent | sdague: yeah, that's what I think, but I keep getting "why is this based on X" comments | 13:46 |
sdague | cdent: hmm, ok, maybe we should just educate folks on that | 13:47 |
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alex_xu | cdent: cool for decorator | 13:47 |
cdent | sdague: they are from people who I'm pretty sure already know that (jay, dan, etc) | 13:47 |
sdague | sigh, ok | 13:47 |
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cdent | I think they (understandbly) are tying to optimize for merging, not waiting | 13:48 |
cdent | in any case, once the three currently merging are in, it will be a lot easier to make sense of | 13:48 |
sdague | ok, from my math this is only 4 patches outstanding right? | 13:48 |
cdent | sdague: I need to review the actual goals more closely but I think there are several "we'd really like to get this too" but I'm not sure how those relate to the decisions made at mid-cycle and elsewhere | 13:49 |
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cdent | I admit that it is hard for me to understand some of the constraints | 13:50 |
cdent | so I just keep moving as much forward as I cn | 13:50 |
cdent | can | 13:50 |
sdague | ok, lets take this back over to nova channel | 13:50 |
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sdague | so we can get everyone on the same page | 13:50 |
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alex_xu | ok, so anything more? or we probably need to close the meeting | 13:51 |
sdague | yeh, probably close the meeting | 13:51 |
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alex_xu | cool, 9 mins left, we have short meeting this week. :) | 13:51 |
sdague | I am unlikely to be here next week, because of OpenStack East | 13:51 |
mriedem | i'm on vacation next week too | 13:51 |
mriedem | cranking on the novaclient changes today | 13:51 |
alex_xu | woo, catch all the question this week. | 13:51 |
alex_xu | ok, thanks all! | 13:52 |
alex_xu | #endmeeting | 13:52 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 17 13:52:10 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:52 |
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openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-08-17-13.00.txt | 13:52 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-08-17-13.00.log.html | 13:52 |
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zaneb | #startmeeting heat | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 17 15:00:13 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zaneb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'heat' | 15:00 |
zaneb | just like riding a bike | 15:00 |
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zaneb | #topic roll call | 15:00 |
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ramishra | hi | 15:00 |
jasond | o/ | 15:00 |
spzala | :) o/ | 15:00 |
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yohoffman | \o | 15:01 |
syjulian | o/ | 15:01 |
cwolferh | o/ | 15:01 |
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duvarenkov | hi | 15:01 |
xenogear | o/ | 15:01 |
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shizhihui | hi, I am new | 15:01 |
zaneb | shizhihui: welcome! | 15:02 |
zaneb | ok, good turnout | 15:02 |
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shizhihui | zaneb ,thank you | 15:02 |
zaneb | #topic Adding items to agenda | 15:02 |
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zaneb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282016-08-17_1500_UTC.29 | 15:02 |
zaneb | anybody got anything else? | 15:03 |
zaneb | I'll take y'all's silence as a 'no' | 15:04 |
zaneb | #topic bp for cinder quota as heat resource | 15:04 |
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zaneb | syjulian: is this you? | 15:04 |
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zaneb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355627/ | 15:04 |
syjulian | yes | 15:04 |
zaneb | syjulian: then you have the floor :) | 15:04 |
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syjulian | so we basically want to be able to manage cinder quotas as a heat resource | 15:07 |
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zaneb | I scanned the bp and I'm mentally filing this under 'weird things that admins want to do (for some reason) with Heat, of which we already support a bunch' | 15:07 |
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zaneb | I'm not inclined to draw the line here, so I think this is fine | 15:07 |
zaneb | *provided* that it is limited to admin-only so regular users won't see it | 15:07 |
ramishra | yeah, we have quite a few admin only resources, one more to the list:) | 15:07 |
yohoffman | Yes, this would be strictly admin-only | 15:07 |
yohoffman | we can't have users updating their quota can we... | 15:07 |
zaneb | do we have docs somewhere on how to create an admin-only resource type? | 15:07 |
zaneb | I know we added support for that, but every time I go looking to figure out how to do it i come up empty-handed | 15:07 |
syjulian | that would help a lot :) | 15:07 |
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ramishra | I'm not sure if we have anything like that. | 15:08 |
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zaneb | ramishra: you're not sure if the feature exists or if it's documented? | 15:09 |
* zaneb sometimes gets the sinking feeling that some of this stuff happened only in my head | 15:10 | |
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syjulian | also who would be good to add as reviewers for this spec? | 15:10 |
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ramishra | zaneb: both, I don't think there is anything to differentiate the admin resources or any docs on how to write them, | 15:11 |
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ramishra | but we have the keystone resources as mentioned in this spec, which can be used by admin only. | 15:11 |
ramishra | atleast that's what I know. | 15:11 |
zaneb | maybe I'm losing it then | 15:12 |
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yohoffman | We can try and help write up some documentation as we go if that would be helpful. | 15:12 |
zaneb | yohoffman: so there's either a feature that says that the user must have a certain keystone role to use a particular resource type, or there isn't | 15:13 |
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zaneb | I thought we added one as a condition of moving all these resource types from /contrib into the main tree | 15:13 |
yohoffman | Oh, I thought we said there are other admin-only resources already out there? | 15:14 |
cwolferh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317329/ | 15:14 |
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zaneb | yes! thank you cwolferh | 15:15 |
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cwolferh | yep :-) | 15:15 |
* cwolferh thanks git log | 15:15 | |
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yohoffman | Looks simple enough =) | 15:16 |
zaneb | yohoffman: so yeah, it needs to be added to the list in policy.json | 15:16 |
zaneb | maybe mention that in the spec | 15:16 |
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zaneb | ok, next topic? | 15:16 |
yohoffman | sure, can do | 15:16 |
yohoffman | So no docs necessary then? | 15:16 |
ramishra | zaneb: Is that what you were looking for? the policy for resource types. may be I misunderstood. | 15:16 |
zaneb | ramishra: yes, pretty sure that's what I was looking for | 15:17 |
zaneb | yohoffman: some docs would be a nice bonus :) | 15:17 |
zaneb | I think we have a plugin authors guide, right? | 15:17 |
yohoffman | Alright, we'll look around and see where we can fit it | 15:17 |
jezogwza | Regarding next topic. If we are ok with this Cinder Quota Resource Type, we have equivalent request for Nova and Neutron quotas | 15:17 |
zaneb | jezogwza: I have no objection to that either | 15:18 |
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zaneb | #topic Newton-3 | 15:19 |
prazumovsky | If all of them will be admin only, why not then | 15:19 |
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syjulian | \o/ | 15:19 |
xenogear | :) | 15:19 |
zaneb | I'm guessing this is happening RSN | 15:19 |
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zaneb | #link http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 15:20 |
zaneb | feature freeze for most projects is ~end of next week | 15:20 |
zaneb | we're not on the calendar, but traditionally we have observed the same FF | 15:21 |
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zaneb | so let's take a look and see what is in danger of not landing | 15:21 |
zaneb | #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/newton-3 | 15:22 |
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zaneb | condition functions are close I think | 15:22 |
zaneb | please review those; I will try to take another look too | 15:22 |
zaneb | ramishra: what is the status of the environment merging? | 15:23 |
ramishra | It's up for review | 15:23 |
ramishra | it's mostly done from my side, reviews are welcome, I think shardy has looked at it and is ok with it. | 15:24 |
zaneb | ok, changed it to "needs code review" | 15:24 |
ramishra | though formal review is still waiting from hoim | 15:24 |
prazumovsky | My two cents: yesterday I send email about convergence get live state status | 15:24 |
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ramishra | I think some of the bps should move to octa | 15:24 |
zaneb | ramishra: is this still do-able/safe before FF do you think? | 15:24 |
zaneb | agree | 15:25 |
zaneb | pretty sure the HOT generator one is not close to landing | 15:25 |
ramishra | I think so, it's quite simple, though without reviews I don't know;) | 15:25 |
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ramishra | I think external resources thing has landed. | 15:26 |
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ramishra | I changed it's status. | 15:26 |
zaneb | convergence-migrate-stack appears to be done, is that right? | 15:27 |
ananta | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280836/ | 15:28 |
zaneb | don't see ochuprykov here, so I'm gonna change it and he can scream later if it's wrong | 15:28 |
zaneb | tempest-plugin-support is still in progress | 15:29 |
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zaneb | files-show seems to be done but the functional tests haven't merged yet | 15:30 |
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zaneb | waiting on a heatclient release by the looks of it | 15:30 |
zaneb | so basically done, but I'll leave it open for now | 15:31 |
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zaneb | sfc-heat appears to have merged, closing | 15:31 |
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zaneb | observe-reality was discussed on the ML as prazumovsky said before he dropped out | 15:32 |
zaneb | lbaas-l7-rules-support second patch seems to be stalled, needs rebase | 15:33 |
ramishra | network-sfc, quite a few patches still to be reviewed or not attended by the author. | 15:33 |
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zaneb | neutron-dns-resolution is now marked implemented | 15:34 |
ramishra | I think it would be good to move it to octa, or I'm missing something? | 15:35 |
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zaneb | ramishra: oh, you're right. I only looked at the last one | 15:36 |
zaneb | ah, that was just the spec | 15:36 |
zaneb | yeah, let's move to Ocata | 15:36 |
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zaneb | migrate-to-glance-v2 also gets bumped (again) | 15:38 |
ramishra | yeah, the issue of image location and the dicussion goes on from cycle to cycle;) | 15:39 |
zaneb | lol | 15:39 |
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zaneb | ok, the list is looking a lot tidier | 15:40 |
zaneb | thanks everyone for sitting through this painful exercise ;) | 15:40 |
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zaneb | #action cores, please give high priority to reviewing the remaining features on that list before FF next week | 15:41 |
zaneb | #topic Open Discussion | 15:41 |
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zaneb | anybody got anything else to bring up? | 15:41 |
ramishra | too many gate failures in the last few days. | 15:41 |
ramishra | I've created a tempest bug report FWIW https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1614078 | 15:42 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1614078 in tempest "heat api tests failing with Max retries exceeded with url" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Rabi Mishra (rabi) | 15:42 |
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zaneb | ramishra: yeah, it seems like it may have been premature to make the apache gate job voting? | 15:43 |
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ramishra | it's affecting any job using tempest tests like grenade | 15:44 |
zaneb | ah, ok | 15:44 |
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ramishra | gate-grenade-dsvm-heat is also failing quite a number of times. | 15:45 |
zaneb | so somebody else changed it and we are dealing with the fallout | 15:45 |
ramishra | I don't know how to bring it to the attention of the tempest team. | 15:45 |
ramishra | my previous experience is not that good;) | 15:46 |
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zaneb | ramishra: can we change it in our config? | 15:47 |
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zaneb | or does it have to be in the tempest config? | 15:47 |
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ramishra | It's the tempest config I think. I'm not sure of the solution too. don't know much about tempest;) | 15:48 |
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* zaneb neither | 15:48 | |
zaneb | ah well, let's hope that bug report gets some attention | 15:49 |
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zaneb | #info recheck grenade/apache job errors with bug 1614078 | 15:49 |
openstack | bug 1614078 in tempest "heat api tests failing with Max retries exceeded with url" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1614078 - Assigned to Rabi Mishra (rabi) | 15:49 |
zaneb | ananta: this one also worries me: https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1607814 | 15:50 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1607814 in heat "Error acquiring lock for resource" [Undecided,New] | 15:50 |
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ananta | looking | 15:50 |
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ananta | zaneb: will investigate | 15:50 |
zaneb | ananta: thanks! :) | 15:51 |
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ramishra | one more thing, we've the devstack plugin in tree, I proposed a workaround to make it work, though any better ideas would be good too. | 15:51 |
ramishra | we probably should fix it before n3 | 15:51 |
zaneb | sounds sensible | 15:52 |
zaneb | I'll defer to someone who uses devstack on that ;) | 15:52 |
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zaneb | ok, I think this is a good point to wrap up | 15:53 |
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zaneb | thanks everyone! your host next week will be ramishra :) | 15:53 |
zaneb | #endmeeting | 15:54 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 17 15:54:09 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:54 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-08-17-15.00.html | 15:54 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-08-17-15.00.txt | 15:54 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-08-17-15.00.log.html | 15:54 |
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sdake_ | #startmeeting kolla | 16:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 17 16:00:10 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sdake_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
sdake_ | #topic rollcall | 16:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 16:00 |
inc0 | o/ | 16:00 |
duonghq | o/ | 16:00 |
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rhallisey | sup | 16:00 |
hrito | o/ | 16:00 |
sdake_ | kullaidians | 16:00 |
egonzalez90 | Hi! | 16:00 |
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sdake_ | bot will forget me :( | 16:00 |
Jeffrey4l | o/ | 16:01 |
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inc0 | we should be called Kollish;) | 16:01 |
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akwasnie | O/ | 16:01 |
sdake_ | there is only one polish dude here :) | 16:01 |
sdake_ | oh two polish folks nm :) | 16:01 |
inc0 | dude, yes | 16:01 |
akwasnie | Two:) | 16:01 |
pbourke | o/ | 16:01 |
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inc0 | but we also have a dudesse | 16:01 |
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britthouser | 0/ | 16:02 |
coolsvap | o/ | 16:02 |
sdake_ | #topic announcements | 16:02 |
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sdake_ | 1. some folks may already know, but openstack is transforming the format of summits in 2017 | 16:03 |
wirehead_ | o/ | 16:03 |
sdake_ | moment finding link | 16:03 |
sdake_ | http://www.openstack.org/blog/2016/05/faq-evolving-the-openstack-design-summit | 16:03 |
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sdake_ | i'd encourage everyone to read through that faq | 16:04 |
sdake_ | it affects work happening in the next cycle | 16:04 |
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sdake_ | tldr is the summit will be split into two things - one the main event - and the other PTGS every 6 month | 16:04 |
sdake_ | ptg = project team gathering | 16:04 |
sdake_ | ptg = 4-500 people | 16:04 |
sdake_ | main summit = 8k people | 16:04 |
inc0 | no more tshirts for us? | 16:05 |
sdake_ | this change will trigger an overlap in how the releases are managed | 16:05 |
britthouser | Will the PTG be colocated thing for all projects? or isolated like midcycles? | 16:05 |
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sdake_ | it will be in a central location britthouser | 16:05 |
sbezverk | they should not separate project, it will impact interproject activities | 16:06 |
sdake_ | britthouser and yes colocatedd for all projects | 16:06 |
sdake_ | well i dont have any feedback into the process, just reading the faq :) | 16:06 |
sdake_ | the main thing I wanted to get across is that plannning and execution will overlap | 16:06 |
sdake_ | we will be planning our next release while still wrapping up our lsat one | 16:06 |
sdake_ | (ie rc time may be or planning) | 16:07 |
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sdake_ | we can do whatever we like, but best to stick with the big tent program :) | 16:07 |
sdake_ | what this means is specs may become something we need | 16:07 |
sdake_ | so we can do that planning work | 16:07 |
sdake_ | any questions? | 16:07 |
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inc0 | we already discussed "light specs" that needs just 2*+2 | 16:08 |
sdake_ | right | 16:08 |
sdake_ | and dthat was before i knew about this :) | 16:08 |
inc0 | yeah | 16:08 |
inc0 | so it seems to serve the purpose well | 16:08 |
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sdake_ | anyway we can tackle itlater | 16:08 |
inc0 | I think we should discuss making it a thing from Ocata on | 16:08 |
sdake_ | just letting people know that 2017 will be changing thigns a bit | 16:09 |
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sdake_ | but its 2016 - so lets focus on now :) | 16:09 |
sdake_ | read the faq | 16:09 |
sdake_ | it does a much better job of explaining then my tldr | 16:09 |
sdake_ | nothing to be concerned with - ithink overall it is super positive for openswtack | 16:09 |
sdake_ | any other announcements from the community? | 16:10 |
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sdake_ | #topic osic scale teseting | 16:10 |
inc0 | guess not | 16:10 |
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sdake_ | #undo | 16:10 |
openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x7f5bbf2fe9d0> | 16:10 |
sdake_ | #topic osic scale testing | 16:10 |
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sdake_ | pbourke like to give a status for the wider team? | 16:11 |
pbourke | sure | 16:11 |
inc0 | ok, so we managed to get VM accessible from deploy node | 16:11 |
pbourke | or inc0 will do :) | 16:11 |
sdake_ | whatever works | 16:11 |
sdake_ | i dont know who has the most recent info | 16:11 |
inc0 | ok, I'll keep going;) | 16:11 |
pbourke | go go! | 16:11 |
inc0 | so yesterday we managed to (at last) get our cluster configured in a way that allows us to access vm | 16:11 |
inc0 | we need to prep our modified version of init-runonce for that | 16:12 |
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inc0 | and prep rally to be able to run full set of benchmarks | 16:12 |
inc0 | after that we'll have good validation tool for our deployments | 16:12 |
inc0 | we're about half-way through cluster access | 16:12 |
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pbourke | so essentially we need to finish the rest of our testing this weeek | 16:13 |
inc0 | next steps: make init-runcone, configure rally, redeploy kolla with different config | 16:13 |
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pbourke | if we want to leave the last week free for baremetal testing sean's stuff | 16:13 |
inc0 | well, we still have 2 weeks or so | 16:13 |
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sdake_ | pbourke - I've spoken with seean about that issue | 16:13 |
pbourke | i would like to go through each deploy again once we get the rally stuff ready | 16:14 |
pbourke | as what we have on the review currently is minimal | 16:14 |
sdake_ | sean was good with us taking the time to do the first part we committeed to correctly | 16:14 |
inc0 | I'll work with him to get him some more pemanent access to bare metal | 16:14 |
sdake_ | pbourke go through each deploy- can you expand? | 16:14 |
pbourke | sdake_: so in the original etherpad we have a variety of deploy scenarios laid out | 16:14 |
inc0 | so we can test BM deployment after we're done with cluster | 16:14 |
pbourke | so far we've done a couple of them but have not got much rally benchmarks | 16:15 |
pbourke | so I think it would be valuable to do them again and get a consistent set of rally reports | 16:15 |
pbourke | it should be quite straight forward | 16:15 |
sdake_ | ahh you rmean redo the work | 16:15 |
sdake_ | yes I agree | 16:15 |
coolsvap | pbourke: yes | 16:15 |
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sdake_ | I was wwondering if you emant we should sanitize our list of scenarios | 16:15 |
sdake_ | pbourke ^^ | 16:16 |
pbourke | na I think what we have is ok | 16:16 |
britthouser | So once rally ready to rock and roll, we GOTO #1? or #2? | 16:16 |
pbourke | GOTO #1 | 16:16 |
sdake_ | we are at the starting line | 16:16 |
pbourke | its a 20 min deploy for each :) | 16:16 |
sdake_ | 2 weeks in :) | 16:16 |
inc0 | we also need some able body to setup cobbler with centos | 16:16 |
sdake_ | foortunately kola is super fast | 16:17 |
inc0 | as we're just doing ubuntu-14.04 now | 16:17 |
sdake_ | kolla that is | 16:17 |
sdake_ | agree centos comparison would be grand | 16:17 |
sdake_ | lets get through ubuntu first | 16:17 |
pbourke | another thing | 16:17 |
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britthouser | So 0. Rally, then 1-5 with ubuntu, then 1-5 with centos? | 16:17 |
pbourke | please drop status reports to me in EMEA tz's and britthouser in US | 16:18 |
sdake_ | iirc there were 12 test scenarios | 16:18 |
pbourke | otherwise its hard for us to keep track of things and keep things rolling when you go to bed :) | 16:18 |
inc0 | so another way would be to deploy ubuntu xenial | 16:18 |
inc0 | it should support container from both centos and ubutnu | 16:18 |
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sdake_ | inc0 thats an invalid test imo | 16:18 |
inc0 | ok | 16:18 |
inc0 | fair enough | 16:18 |
vhosakot | o/ (sorry my late) | 16:18 |
britthouser | I'm thinking lets get 1-11 done with ubuntu | 16:18 |
britthouser | since we have that working | 16:19 |
sdake_ | right | 16:19 |
sdake_ | then repave | 16:19 |
sdake_ | then 1-12 with centos | 16:19 |
coolsvap | pbourke: can we sync on rally after the meeting? | 16:19 |
britthouser | Ok. I can probably work on getting centos in the cobbler when that time comes. | 16:19 |
sdake_ | but id like to be clear - if we can't do centos, its not the end of the world | 16:19 |
britthouser | agreed | 16:19 |
pbourke | coolsvap: im pretty busy for the evening, but inc0 can fill you in the latest | 16:19 |
sdake_ | what is critical is etting 1-11 done in a review for any os :) | 16:19 |
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coolsvap | pbourke: sure fine with me | 16:19 |
britthouser | Can you circle me into that mtg coolsvap? | 16:20 |
sdake_ | rhallisey - can you set the topic to indicate a link to the etherpad for the osic scale testing pls | 16:20 |
rhallisey | sdake_, ya | 16:20 |
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coolsvap | britthouser: Sure on #openstack-kolla | 16:21 |
sdake_ | (in the channel topic i mean of #openstack-kolla) | 16:21 |
rhallisey | ya I know | 16:21 |
sdake_ | cool | 16:21 |
rhallisey | what's the link? | 16:21 |
rhallisey | dont' have it present | 16:21 |
britthouser | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-N-midcycle-osic | 16:21 |
sdake_ | ok - well sounds like we are in solid shape there | 16:21 |
rhallisey | thx | 16:21 |
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sdake_ | sorry - got distracted with ping from doug | 16:22 |
sdake_ | ok | 16:22 |
sdake_ | #topic merge madness | 16:22 |
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sdake_ | our review queue is getting very long | 16:23 |
britthouser | lol | 16:23 |
sdake_ | we have a ton of work to merge within the next 15 days | 16:23 |
sdake_ | osic timing and milestone 3 timing not ideal | 16:23 |
sdake_ | but we have to deal with it | 16:23 |
sdake_ | prioritize osic over reviews | 16:23 |
sdake_ | and we can sort out the mess down teh rooad | 16:23 |
sdake_ | what i do need ffrom folks is to start reviewing heavily | 16:24 |
vhosakot | I'll review in the queue... reviewed some this week... I signed up for reconfigure for OSIC scaling | 16:24 |
sdake_ | vhosakot roger - need output from every core reviewer | 16:24 |
sdake_ | top performance on the reviews for next 2 weeks - then things should settle down a little bit | 16:24 |
sdake_ | i'm open to suggestions for making our experience less painful | 16:24 |
rhallisey | review the fernet patch pls | 16:24 |
rhallisey | :) | 16:25 |
sdake_ | pbourke mentioned something about the gate being busted | 16:25 |
rhallisey | it's pretty solid | 16:25 |
vhosakot | sdake_: done, also I observed the F5 VPN doesn't work sometimes.. saw a mail fro Jeffrey4l as well.. does anyone see it | 16:25 |
sdake_ | but i wasnt clear if Jeffrey4l fixed that or not | 16:25 |
Jeffrey4l | F5 vpn works | 16:25 |
sdake_ | vhosakot - we can take that up in opens :) | 16:25 |
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vhosakot | cool, | 16:25 |
pbourke | i think the gate is getting better now apart from ubuntu | 16:25 |
sdake_ | nothing we can do about ubuntu | 16:26 |
pbourke | Jeffrey4l has a patch for it but think there's problems | 16:26 |
sdake_ | nobodyd knows why it is broken | 16:26 |
sdake_ | i'd suggest just ignoring it for now - fixing it could take weeks or more | 16:26 |
sdake_ | we have burned 4-6 weeks on fixing the ubuntu gate already | 16:26 |
Jeffrey4l | it is weird for ubuntu deploy. still debugging. | 16:26 |
pbourke | sdake_: if you're talking about the libvirt issue that was fixed | 16:26 |
inc0 | pbourke, what was that btw? | 16:26 |
sdake_ | nice | 16:27 |
pbourke | inc0: we never found out recently it just started going green again | 16:27 |
inc0 | lol | 16:27 |
pbourke | but now its busted due to some repo issue | 16:27 |
pbourke | :( | 16:27 |
sdake_ | nice - hesingbugs ftl | 16:27 |
sdake_ | pbourke right - thats on my plate to sort out | 16:27 |
sdake_ | pbourke i'll look at that today | 16:27 |
pbourke | its hard to review with red gates | 16:27 |
pbourke | as people ignore them and bugs do go in | 16:28 |
sdake_ | i hear what your saying | 16:28 |
rhallisey | also I have reviews for huge doc restructure | 16:28 |
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rhallisey | rebasing it is hard :) | 16:28 |
pbourke | also we need to get some more cores on board | 16:28 |
rhallisey | the review is easy, just moved stuff around :) | 16:28 |
sdake_ | rhallisey speaking of that there is a doc change in teh queue i want to go in beffore yours | 16:28 |
rhallisey | sdake_, ok | 16:28 |
sdake_ | would appredciate if you wouldn't mind rebasing it after that | 16:28 |
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sdake_ | because its a critical critical problem eating up lots of time | 16:28 |
sdake_ | so onto the red gates | 16:28 |
sdake_ | pbourke which one in particular are you concerned with | 16:29 |
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sdake_ | just the general flakiness of the gates? | 16:30 |
sdake_ | or is one in particular troubling | 16:30 |
sdake_ | (just the ubuntu deploy?) | 16:30 |
sdake_ | while pbourke thinks - i'd jsut like to say | 16:30 |
sdake_ | please don't merge patches that have red gates except for gates we expect to fail | 16:31 |
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sdake_ | that just creates a huge problem to sort out - instead recheck the patch | 16:31 |
pbourke | sdake_: the only ones that are broken are the ubuntu ones | 16:31 |
pbourke | sdake_: due to repo issue that I think you can fix | 16:31 |
Jeffrey4l | may be it is time we should voting some jobs. like centos related. | 16:31 |
sdake_ | Jeffrey4l - working on it - my reviews stalled in infra atm | 16:32 |
pbourke | also bandit, some core please approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/353942/ | 16:32 |
sdake_ | yes bandit gates are broken | 16:32 |
sdake_ | ignore those until they go green | 16:32 |
Jeffrey4l | cool | 16:32 |
sdake_ | its a lot of manual work to create a mirror | 16:32 |
sdake_ | and only a few folks know how to do it | 16:32 |
sdake_ | and eveyrone is overloaded | 16:32 |
sdake_ | so i wouldn't expect voting gates to help us before milestone 3 (8/31) | 16:33 |
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sdake_ | ok - so bad gates are blocking reviews because reviewers concerned about bugs? | 16:33 |
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sdake_ | pbourke - i'll be on that ubuntu gate today - we fix up the bandit gate- we should be all green | 16:34 |
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pbourke | cool | 16:34 |
sdake_ | so now assuming the gates are green - need lots of review output from the team :) | 16:34 |
sdake_ | ok i think thats beaten into the ground now :) | 16:34 |
sdake_ | #topic milestone #3 | 16:35 |
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sdake_ | #link https://launchpad.net/kolla/+milestone/newton-3 | 16:35 |
sdake_ | if folks take a moment to open that up | 16:35 |
sdake_ | going to be bouncing non-good progress blueprints out of the release after this meeting | 16:36 |
sdake_ | if there is anything critical there, i'll keep it in and we can focus on it as a team, like the osic work | 16:36 |
sdake_ | (critical but not in good progreess) | 16:37 |
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sdake_ | it a a whole lot of blueprints | 16:37 |
sdake_ | most of the work is done | 16:37 |
sdake_ | it just needs reviews | 16:37 |
sdake_ | at our best we are able to work through about 25 blueprints in 2 weeks that are marked in good progress | 16:37 |
sdake_ | focus reviews on priority list | 16:38 |
sdake_ | if anyone has suggestions - taking all ideas :) | 16:39 |
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sdake_ | the only one I have is increase capacity (more reviews) reduce delivery (less changes) | 16:39 |
sdake_ | we may have to do both of these things in paralell | 16:40 |
sdake_ | we will take another look next week | 16:40 |
pbourke | sdake_: we should review stackalytics for a few core nominations | 16:40 |
pbourke | sdake_: lot of good reviews being done by people with no +a rights | 16:40 |
sdake_ | pbourke sounds good - and I totally agree there are folks that are ready for cr | 16:40 |
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sdake_ | pbourke would folks be opposed to a shorter voting window (then 1 week) for core review nominations if any of you make them :) | 16:41 |
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sdake_ | such as 3 days | 16:41 |
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inc0 | sdake_, let's keep it 1 week imho | 16:41 |
sdake_ | ohk | 16:42 |
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sdake_ | #topic kolla-kubernetes | 16:42 |
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sdake_ | rhallisey take it away | 16:42 |
rhallisey | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-kubernetes | 16:42 |
rhallisey | list of bps | 16:42 |
rhallisey | although a little redundant, we do need to keep our reviews up | 16:43 |
rhallisey | neutron and nova patches are in | 16:43 |
rhallisey | I'm going to go through and test spawning vms and such to make a video | 16:43 |
rhallisey | soon hopefully | 16:43 |
rhallisey | next steps after the core services is we will look at bringing in ansible | 16:44 |
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rhallisey | also folks keep thinking about a session or two for summit :) | 16:44 |
sdake_ | nice on neutron and nova | 16:44 |
sdake_ | does it work :) | 16:45 |
rhallisey | sdake_, I haven't tried it yet | 16:45 |
wirehead_ | Still in the “almost” state. | 16:45 |
sdake_ | rhallisey I will start the summit planning after milestone 3 | 16:45 |
sdake_ | rhallisey w ewill have 3-4 brainstorm sessions on the topic | 16:45 |
rhallisey | wirehead_, gotcha. Do you have any further updates to it? | 16:45 |
wirehead_ | Unfortunately, no. :/ | 16:45 |
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rhallisey | wirehead_, anywhere you're stuck? | 16:45 |
rhallisey | kk | 16:45 |
rhallisey | sdake_, cool sounds good | 16:45 |
wirehead_ | Not having as much time to work on Kolla-kubernetes at the moment. | 16:46 |
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rhallisey | wirehead_, I'm fixing up my dev environment so hoepfully I'll be of use soon | 16:46 |
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rhallisey | oh one more thing regarding the CLI/ansible | 16:46 |
rhallisey | talked with kfox about rest calls | 16:47 |
wirehead_ | Like, it’s really close. | 16:47 |
rhallisey | wirehead_, awesome. Cant' wait! | 16:47 |
wirehead_ | Nova runs without throwing up errors, it’s just lacking flavors and images. | 16:47 |
rhallisey | wirehead_, that's the default | 16:47 |
wirehead_ | Yah. | 16:47 |
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sbezverk | if you merge my glance patch | 16:48 |
sbezverk | you will have images | 16:48 |
rhallisey | sbezverk, I'll get to it later | 16:48 |
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sdake_ | its always later around here ;) | 16:48 |
rhallisey | indeed | 16:48 |
rhallisey | soon* | 16:49 |
sdake_ | #topic open discussion | 16:49 |
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rhallisey | review review review :) | 16:49 |
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sdake_ | lets all chant together with rhallisey | 16:49 |
inc0 | I propose new tradition in our community: on every meeting let's make a woot for kolla | 16:49 |
inc0 | chant will work too | 16:49 |
sdake_ | ok rhallisey kick us off | 16:50 |
rhallisey | review | 16:50 |
sdake_ | review review review! | 16:50 |
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rhallisey | where's the support? | 16:50 |
rhallisey | lols | 16:51 |
sdake_ | irc lag rhallisey | 16:51 |
inc0 | review review review | 16:51 |
sbezverk | where are my damn reviews?!?!? | 16:51 |
rhallisey | copy paste come on | 16:51 |
egonzalez90 | review review review! | 16:51 |
rhallisey | haha :) | 16:51 |
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sdake_ | we are half way there :) | 16:51 |
sdake_ | keep em coming | 16:51 |
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duonghq | can I have a question? Today I just investigate in the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/1612304 | 16:52 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1612304 in kolla "stable mitaka uses tag 3.0.0" [High,New] | 16:52 |
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sdake_ | duonghq working on that one myself | 16:52 |
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sdake_ | rhallisey i guess our chant failed | 16:52 |
rhallisey | think so | 16:52 |
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sdake_ | on the positive side - its end of meeting and people are probably watching youtube atm :) | 16:52 |
sdake_ | thanks folks for coming | 16:53 |
sdake_ | ttyl | 16:53 |
duonghq | sorry, :P | 16:53 |
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rhallisey | :) | 16:53 |
sdake_ | #endmeeting | 16:53 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 17 16:53:15 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:53 |
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RaginBajin | #startmeeting operators_ops_tools_monitoring | 19:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 17 19:00:10 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is RaginBajin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'operators_ops_tools_monitoring' | 19:00 |
RaginBajin | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osops-irc-meeting-20160817 | 19:00 |
RaginBajin | The agenda is out there.. I think the biggest thing to talk about if anyone is here is making this a monthly meeting as we don't have a lot of user partitipation but we do manage the osops repos | 19:00 |
RaginBajin | o/ | 19:01 |
RaginBajin | I'll wait till 10 minutes after the hour.. If no one is here, then I'll close the meeting with the intention of changing how often we meet | 19:01 |
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RaginBajin | Ok.. Another highly communicative meeting.. | 19:11 |
RaginBajin | #endmeeting | 19:11 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 17 19:11:39 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:11 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_ops_tools_monitoring/2016/operators_ops_tools_monitoring.2016-08-17-19.00.html | 19:11 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_ops_tools_monitoring/2016/operators_ops_tools_monitoring.2016-08-17-19.00.txt | 19:11 |
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JRobinson__ | Hi all, I'll start the persona meeting if there are attendees today. | 21:06 |
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JRobinson__ | okay, no user guides meeting for this fortnight. Rescheduling | 21:22 |
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qwebirc78076 | hello | 21:48 |
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