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| rolandchan | Diversity WG meeting anybody? | 05:01 |
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| kavit | #startmeeting Diversity Workgroup APAC 3rd Dec 2015 | 05:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 3 05:02:39 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kavit. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Diversity Workgroup APAC 3rd Dec 2015)" | 05:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'diversity_workgroup_apac_3rd_dec_2015' | 05:02 |
| rolandchan | Roll Call | 05:03 |
| rolandchan | Roland Chan, Aptira. | 05:03 |
| kavit | Kavit Munshi, Aptira | 05:04 |
| kavit | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStackDiversity.18 | 05:04 |
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| rolandchan | ok, so working through the agenda | 05:06 |
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| rolandchan | Outreach: I think the plan was to look at providing materials to user group convenors | 05:07 |
| kavit | also need to reach out to the TC to get help with the issues faced by new developers | 05:07 |
| rolandchan | it turns out nothing exists for UG people. I think we need someone to take on this task. | 05:07 |
| kavit | I think a few people from the TC were happy to help | 05:08 |
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| kavit | this could be a part of the outreach | 05:08 |
| rolandchan | OK. So, we need to pull the TC into the Diversity process. We had one volunteer, lets get the US based people to invite them all along to the meeting. | 05:08 |
| rolandchan | #action US team to invite TC members to Diversity WG meetings. | 05:09 |
| rolandchan | oh, yeah. Bot hates me. | 05:09 |
| kavit | rolandchan, we should talk to tom, there is some talk of a starter pack for new UG in the ambassadors group, we could work with them | 05:09 |
| kavit | #chair rolandchan | 05:09 |
| openstack | Current chairs: kavit rolandchan | 05:09 |
| rolandchan | excellent. | 05:09 |
| kavit | please try again | 05:09 |
| rolandchan | #action US team to invite TC members to Diversity WG meetings. | 05:09 |
| rolandchan | Openstack bot is not very inclusive | 05:10 |
| rolandchan | moving on | 05:10 |
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| rolandchan | Onboarding element. So I have reviewed the various "getting started" type content, and it's disorganised. there's some duplication and projects have many different ways of doing things | 05:11 |
| rolandchan | I think it would be useful to have some common formats/locations/style etc to getting people oriented. | 05:12 |
| rolandchan | obviously that's something that needs buy in from the various project teams. | 05:12 |
| rolandchan | and assuming that occurs, the remediation of existing content will be fairly onerous. | 05:13 |
| rolandchan | Still, I think it needs to be done. | 05:13 |
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| rolandchan | I'd like to hear what the rest of the WG thinks before we take it outside the group. | 05:13 |
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| kavit | rolandchan, there was also talk of a Speaker's Bureau being created at the community track in Tokyo. idea was to provide a database of regular speakers to the UGs and various events | 05:14 |
| kavit | we should circle back and co-ordinate with that group also | 05:14 |
| rolandchan | yes, with respect to outreach. | 05:14 |
| kavit | sorry yes, this would be under outreach | 05:15 |
| rolandchan | anything else for onboarding? | 05:15 |
| kavit | cant think of anything | 05:15 |
| rolandchan | ok | 05:15 |
| rolandchan | Code of Conduct update. | 05:16 |
| kavit | dont have one | 05:17 |
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| rolandchan_ | so, I'm happy to draft an email | 05:20 |
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| rolandchan_ | and send it to the US team to review, update etc before they send it to jbryce | 05:20 |
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| rolandchan_ | thats it for me. | 05:22 |
| kavit | OK | 05:23 |
| kavit | anyone else want to discuss anything? | 05:23 |
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| kavit | ok going to end the meeting | 05:24 |
| kavit | #endmeeting | 05:24 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 3 05:24:25 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 05:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diversity_workgroup_apac_3rd_dec_2015/2015/diversity_workgroup_apac_3rd_dec_2015.2015-12-03-05.02.html | 05:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diversity_workgroup_apac_3rd_dec_2015/2015/diversity_workgroup_apac_3rd_dec_2015.2015-12-03-05.02.txt | 05:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diversity_workgroup_apac_3rd_dec_2015/2015/diversity_workgroup_apac_3rd_dec_2015.2015-12-03-05.02.log.html | 05:24 |
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| flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k | 13:59 |
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| flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat | 13:59 |
| flaper87 | #startmeeting Glance | 13:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 3 13:59:43 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flaper87. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 13:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 13:59 |
| flaper87 | #topic Roll Call | 13:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 13:59 | |
| ativelkov | o/ | 13:59 |
| dshakhray | o/ | 13:59 |
| kragniz | o/ | 13:59 |
| bpoulos | o/ | 14:00 |
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| ativelkov | mfedosin will be here in a minute | 14:00 |
| * flaper87 has a quite flaky internet connection... expect some lags | 14:00 | |
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| flaper87 | ativelkov: thanks | 14:00 |
| kairat | o/ | 14:00 |
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| sabari | o/ | 14:00 |
| mfedosin | o/ | 14:00 |
| flaper87 | sabari: O.O | 14:00 |
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| flaper87 | sabari: glad to have you here | 14:01 |
| nikhil | o/ | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:01 |
| avarner_ | o/ | 14:01 |
| * flaper87 hands a cup of coffee to sabari | 14:01 | |
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| flaper87 | #topic Agenda | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Agenda (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:01 | |
| flaper87 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:01 |
| sabari | flaper87 The jetlag helped a bit :D | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | That's our agenda for today | 14:01 |
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| dhellmann | o/ | 14:01 |
| rosmaita_ | o/ | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | as usual, feel free to put stuff in there if you would like to talk about them | 14:01 |
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| flaper87 | One thing w.r.t the agenda, now that we're talking about it. If you need to raise awareness on a specific spec, you should feel free to add it to the drivers agenda | 14:02 |
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| flaper87 | It's fine and perfect to discuss it here if you need a broader community to chime in | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | but, if it's just to raise awareness and ask for review, remember we meet on Tuesdays to talk about that | 14:02 |
| kairat | flaper87, ok, got it | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | you're not required to attend the meeting, we'll review the spec even if you're not there | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | :) | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-drivers-meeting-agenda | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | that's the link to the driver's agenda | 14:03 |
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| nikhil | you're spoiling the cats | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | coolio, moving on | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | #topic Updates | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Updates (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:03 | |
| flaper87 | Artifacts: | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | ativelkov: mfedosin ? | 14:03 |
| nikhil | we met for a mins | 14:04 |
| nikhil | the bot wasn't there | 14:04 |
| nikhil | had a convo for about 20 mins | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: :( | 14:04 |
| nikhil | the gist of it is that we are waiting for the spec | 14:04 |
| ativelkov | I am back to active work (sorry, took so long, but finally got the approve). We plan to have a Glance v3->Glarev0.1 spec to be ready by the next drivers meeting | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | to be written or reviewed ? | 14:04 |
| nikhil | and some hint of thinking from ativelkov | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | ativelkov: awesome | 14:04 |
| ativelkov | And so will the refactored API spec, hopefully | 14:05 |
| nikhil | written, but I will let ativelkov chat | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | That sounds great! | 14:05 |
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| * flaper87 is looking forward to that spec | 14:05 | |
| mfedosin | and as I promised I will prepare a spec about moving v3 to standalone service | 14:05 |
| ativelkov | to be written, yes. We've also got some commitment from mfedosin and dshakhray to do the actual migration of code | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | nice, sweet! | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | Thanks folks | 14:06 |
| nikhil | ativelkov: so to clarify, we are porting and not delete then write again ? | 14:06 |
| ativelkov | for now - porting, yes | 14:06 |
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| flaper87 | I think I -2'd the deletion patch | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | as I think porting is the way to go | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | cool | 14:06 |
| nikhil | thanks, deletion sounds risky | 14:06 |
| ativelkov | Just moving the current v3 to glare v0.1 | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | ok, drivers updates | 14:07 |
| kairat | I abandoned this patch | 14:07 |
| nikhil | experimental prolly doesn't give us that contract right | 14:07 |
| nikhil | thanks | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | Notm uch from our side. There have been more discussions on the new image import process and an attempt to simplify it | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | A new PS will be proposed and I hope we'll reach an agreement before the next drivers meeting | 14:07 |
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| flaper87 | NExt week we'll start making decisions based on what we have because we need to move that forward | 14:08 |
| nikhil | I have solid feedback and 2-3 use cases that will help shape it well | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | other than that, the db purge spec landed | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | and more reviews to the rest of the specs are coming | 14:08 |
| nikhil | I have already communicated that to Brian and writing it down in a formatted manner | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: awesome :D | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | thanks | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: ^ | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | moving on | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | Updates on the Nova v1 -> V2 work | 14:08 |
| mfedosin | I have good news | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | One of the feedbacks I got was that we hadn't provided news on what's going on there | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | Which is true | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | so, here's some feedback | 14:09 |
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| flaper87 | actually, mfedosin you go for it | 14:09 |
| mfedosin | currently we're able to do listing with v2 | 14:09 |
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| flaper87 | w0000h0000000 | 14:09 |
| mclaren | nice! | 14:09 |
| mfedosin | changes-since works perfect with new filters | 14:10 |
| mclaren | ship it! | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | great! | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | some patches have been merged already | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | nnnnice | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | nice nice nice | 14:10 |
| mfedosin | and all tempest tests pass | 14:10 |
| sabari | awesome! | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | well done! | 14:10 |
| mfedosin | delete and download work as well | 14:10 |
| ativelkov | cool! | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | The nova core team is falling behind with some reviews on this work but I'm working with them to make sure there's nothing blocking reviews | 14:10 |
| mfedosin | I need to concentrate and finish with 'update' today | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | There's a series of patches up for review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231696/ | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | That is, things have been implemented and we mostly need to land them | 14:11 |
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| flaper87 | mfedosin: thanks for the updates | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | #topic Cross project: backwards compat for libraries and clients (nikhil)Â | 14:11 |
| mfedosin | welcome :) | 14:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Cross project: backwards compat for libraries and clients (nikhil)Â (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:11 | |
| flaper87 | nikhil: floor is yours | 14:11 |
| nikhil | mfedosin et.al : excellent work | 14:11 |
| nikhil | on the x-prj topic | 14:12 |
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| nikhil | now that we will be (semi-)enforced to implement this | 14:12 |
| nikhil | (I will let the spec talk the details) | 14:12 |
| nikhil | what do we all think about glance-store api refactor? | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226157 | 14:13 |
| nikhil | I am not sure how feasible it is to keep that 100% back-compat!? | 14:13 |
| nikhil | thanks flaper87 | 14:13 |
| nikhil | or do we mark this lib as an exception | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | I still think we should do it. The whole point about this refactor was not to delete everything and re-implement. The idea is to write the new API alongside the old one | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | so that it'll give time to consumers of the library to migrate | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | I think our current API is pure crap (pardon my language) | 14:14 |
| nikhil | yeah, but then we need to maintain 2 APIs | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | and it was thought for internal use in Glance | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: sure but we'll deprecate the old one | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | it's just to give time to projects to move to the new one | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | In openstack, glance is the only one using it for now | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | which makes it easier | 14:15 |
| nikhil | so you are saying that store would need an exception | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | I don't think that spec says we can't deprecate stuff | 14:15 |
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| flaper87 | What it says is that we *have* to commit to deprecate stuff | 14:15 |
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| mclaren | is this a priority for mitaka? | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | The plan with that refactor has always been to deprecate the old API and give time to migrate | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | it is not | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | but I believe nikhil is referring to the spec | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | which needs lots of work | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | I think it'll take a couple of months for that spec to be ready | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | which means it'll fall into the N cycle | 14:17 |
| nikhil | flaper87: the back compat one or the refactor one? | 14:17 |
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| flaper87 | nikhil: the refactor one | 14:17 |
| nikhil | ok | 14:17 |
| nikhil | but even with back compat one it's a painfully and hard to commit process | 14:18 |
| nikhil | for instance supporting 2 APIs for 4 cycles is literally saying that you never get rid of it | 14:18 |
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| nikhil | the amount of catch up needed is humoungous | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | We can refactor the refactor spec and do a more progressive work towards something saner | 14:18 |
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| nikhil | even progressive work | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | I hate to assume stuff but here I go: I'd assume that many issues since migrating glance to the new glance_store API is most of the work | 14:19 |
| nikhil | doesn't guarantee less catch required | 14:20 |
| flaper87 | True but at least it makes it more manageable | 14:20 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: may I ask what your suggestion is? | 14:20 |
| nikhil | sure the API is, but not the x-prj enforcement | 14:20 |
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| nikhil | I think we have 3 choices: | 14:20 |
| nikhil | 1. let things be as is and progress with x-prj requirements | 14:21 |
| nikhil | 2. add exception to x-rpj list of libraries that do not warrant a API back compat contract, so that we can port it in a cycle or max 2 | 14:21 |
| nikhil | 3. put back store in glance or mark it as private library (or one w/o API guidelines) (we can refactor the API if it remains married to glance) | 14:22 |
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| kragniz | I personally think we either need a new api, or to move it back into the glance tree | 14:22 |
| flaper87 | so, to me, #3 is out of discussion | 14:22 |
| kragniz | currently the library is a real pain to use | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | As of now, I'd go with #2 and add the exception | 14:23 |
| sabari | do we need an exception for glance_store ? The spec seems to say we need to adhere to semver and can make breaking changes, right ? | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | Fix the API, make it consumable by other projects that still want to consume it (a.k.a Nova) and then commit to the backwards compat policy | 14:23 |
| nikhil | sure, but still sanely maintainable. I fear a large refactor could potentially disrput any perf/reliability enhancement done | 14:23 |
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| flaper87 | That we need to discuss on the spec. I think the whole way the spec started gave the wrong impression of what the goal is | 14:24 |
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| flaper87 | A fourth option would be to start a whole new library and let glance_store die | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | That new library would do what glance_store is supposed to do but w/ a new API | 14:24 |
| nikhil | sabari: seems to have a hidden clause. the feeling I got was breaking directly wasn't allowed | 14:25 |
| flaper87 | ok, we need to move on so, to have some action items | 14:25 |
| nikhil | flaper87: sure, #4 is a good option too | 14:25 |
| flaper87 | Can we mention this on the x-proj spec? | 14:25 |
| nikhil | I will | 14:25 |
| nikhil | wanted to get early glance feedback, thanks/ | 14:26 |
| flaper87 | We need a way to be able to either refactor glance_store or create a new one | 14:26 |
| flaper87 | I'm sure good feedback will come out from that spec and ppl following it | 14:26 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: thanks for bringing this up | 14:26 |
| flaper87 | #action nikhil to bring the glance_Store refactor discussion on the x-proj compat spec | 14:26 |
| flaper87 | ok, moving on unless there's something else critical here | 14:27 |
| flaper87 | #topic Cross-project work (flaper87) | 14:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Cross-project work (flaper87) (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:27 | |
| flaper87 | on a similar note to what nikhil just mentioned, I think we need to improve our x-proj presence | 14:27 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: I believe you're the x-proj liaison, right? | 14:27 |
| nikhil | yes | 14:27 |
| flaper87 | coolio | 14:28 |
| flaper87 | what do you think about having x-proj updates at the beginning of our meeting ? | 14:28 |
| flaper87 | Just like artifacts and drivers | 14:28 |
| nikhil | it's mostly formalizing the process and getting some chasers to put on the list of people | 14:28 |
| nikhil | flaper87: surely, I think the p | 14:28 |
| nikhil | though the proposal was | 14:28 |
| nikhil | you need to have a comment on the x-prj spec | 14:29 |
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| nikhil | but prolly still developing | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | yeah | 14:29 |
| nikhil | I can request feedback in the meeting or outside depending on time constraints whatever you all prefere | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | I'm currently worried about our presence in the x-proj meetings and how much feedback we're giving on that area | 14:30 |
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| flaper87 | I'm wondering if we should have 2 liaisons so that you have some help there | 14:30 |
| nikhil | heh | 14:30 |
| nikhil | we had one x-prj meeting in 3 weeks | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | yup | 14:30 |
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| flaper87 | ok, lets start by having an x-proj specific topic in our meetings | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | I think that'd help a lot | 14:31 |
| nikhil | ok | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: btw, don't get me wrong. I think you're doing a great job. I hope this topic didn't come out the wrong way | 14:31 |
| nikhil | and I am just back settling in catching up with backlog :/ | 14:31 |
| nikhil | flaper87: yeah, np | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | coolio, moving on unless there's something else here | 14:32 |
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| flaper87 | #topic Community Recognitions | 14:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Community Recognitions (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:32 | |
| flaper87 | So, I don't really have a way to recognize ppl's work other than mentioning it publicly in our meetings. I think some folks have been doing an amazing job and I would like to, at the very least, recognize that here in a per-milestone basis | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | Just a shutout for folks to know that we love them :D | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | Here it goes: | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | From a bug squashing POV, I'd like to give a special thanks to bunting and kairat | 14:34 |
| flaper87 | They have been working like machines on killing as many bugs as possible | 14:34 |
| flaper87 | and it's been amazing to review all those patches | 14:34 |
| sabari | bunting kairat ++ | 14:34 |
| bunting | Evil bugs :) Cheers! | 14:34 |
| kairat | thanks) | 14:34 |
| mfedosin | thanks folks | 14:34 |
| * nikhil claps | 14:34 | |
| flaper87 | Please, do keep it up and sorry for all those -1's/-2's and nitpicks | 14:34 |
| flaper87 | Bare with us while we try to keep up with your work | 14:35 |
| flaper87 | I'd like to make one more recognition for this milestone | 14:35 |
| flaper87 | and it goes to mfedosin for his amazing work in making nova work with glance v2. It has not been easy and it's required a good deal of cross-project interaction, patience and tolerance | 14:36 |
| flaper87 | That's one of our priorities for Mitaka and it's moving forward quite well | 14:36 |
| flaper87 | So, thanks mfedosin again for your efforts there and please, don't give up. :D | 14:36 |
| mfedosin | oh... it's not done yet, actually | 14:36 |
| mfedosin | but will be very soon | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | I know it's not done, that's why I'm begging you to not give up | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:37 |
| mfedosin | and trusts too | 14:37 |
| mfedosin | I won't give up for sure :) | 14:37 |
| mfedosin | thank you :) | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | It goes without saying that the whole team did an awesome job for M-1 and the review rate has been way better! But, I think this 3 folks deserve a special thank from all of us this time :) | 14:37 |
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| * flaper87 sends beers to everyone | 14:38 | |
| flaper87 | moving on | 14:38 |
| flaper87 | actually | 14:38 |
| flaper87 | if you would like to recognize someone's work, please, feel free to add this topic to the agenda at any time | 14:38 |
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| flaper87 | I'll do it once per milestone at least | 14:38 |
| flaper87 | ok, now, for realz, moving on | 14:39 |
| flaper87 | #topic CORS headers in glance: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219478/ (kairat) | 14:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CORS headers in glance: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219478/ (kairat) (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:39 | |
| flaper87 | kairat: floor is yours | 14:39 |
| kairat | Ok, please look into review | 14:39 |
| kairat | krotscheck would like to clarify what headers are required for glance | 14:40 |
| kairat | but after analyzing the question it turned out that we have a lot of headers, because we are passing metadata as headers | 14:40 |
| kairat | So I am wondering what minimal set of headers we should set as default for CORS | 14:41 |
| mclaren | (that's v1 only I think?) | 14:41 |
| flaper87 | kairat: that's v1 only, though. | 14:41 |
| flaper87 | AFAIR | 14:41 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:41 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: yup | 14:41 |
| kairat | That's perfect | 14:41 |
| mclaren | probably ok to support just v2? | 14:41 |
| kairat | +100 | 14:41 |
| flaper87 | mclaren++ | 14:41 |
| tsufiev | mclaren, no objections here | 14:41 |
| mfedosin | yes | 14:41 |
| flaper87 | awesome, another happy customer. NEXT! | 14:41 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:41 |
| kairat | cool | 14:41 |
| nikhil | it looks fine | 14:42 |
| flaper87 | kairat: tsufiev I take you're all set now | 14:42 |
| tsufiev | still, just enabling CORS headers is not enough to solve the task of Glance images upload from Horizon (the one that CORS is going to solve) | 14:42 |
| kairat | flaper87, yep | 14:42 |
| tsufiev | flaper87, so, we're not ^^ :) | 14:42 |
| * flaper87 reads | 14:42 | |
| flaper87 | tsufiev: what do you mean by "the task of glance images upload" ? | 14:43 |
| kairat | tsufiev, I guess the next topic is about that | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | "task" is a dangerous term in this team | 14:43 |
| tsufiev | flaper87, see https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/horizon-glance-large-image-upload | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:43 |
| nikhil | flaper87: topic change | 14:43 |
| tsufiev | the last comment in w | 14:43 |
| tsufiev | *in Whiteboard | 14:43 |
| nikhil | I think we are talking about "multipart/form-data support in glance api " | 14:44 |
| tsufiev | nikhil, yes | 14:44 |
| nikhil | not that I want to shun this discussion :) | 14:44 |
| mfedosin | flaper87: if we want to upload files to glance from Horizon we have to deal with multipart/form-data | 14:44 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: tsufiev ahhh | 14:44 |
| flaper87 | tsufiev: you hijacked the topic | 14:44 |
| flaper87 | bad bad bad tsufiev | 14:44 |
| kairat | :) | 14:44 |
| mclaren | I don't know much about this tbh -- is there anything here to consider around image import? | 14:44 |
| flaper87 | #topic multipart/form-data support in glance api (tsufiev) | 14:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "multipart/form-data support in glance api (tsufiev) (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:44 | |
| flaper87 | now we can talk about that | 14:44 |
| tsufiev | flaper87, sorry, I'm not familiar with local policies ) | 14:45 |
| flaper87 | tsufiev: are you aware of the efforts going into revamp the import process for images? | 14:45 |
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| flaper87 | tsufiev: np, I was joking | 14:45 |
| flaper87 | I think this is something that will have to be considered as an enhancement for the new import process | 14:45 |
| tsufiev | flaper87, I had a discussion with Brian Rosmaita in spec CR comments, but according to him, Glance wants to offload this thing to Swift | 14:45 |
| tsufiev | and that's the point I disagree with | 14:46 |
| flaper87 | tsufiev: oh yeah, that sounds outdated | 14:46 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:46 |
| flaper87 | discussions have evolved since then | 14:46 |
| flaper87 | and direct upload is not going away | 14:46 |
| tsufiev | flaper87, good to hear :) | 14:46 |
| flaper87 | Anyway, I think we'll have to take this under consideration for the revamped import process | 14:47 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: agreed ? | 14:47 |
| nikhil | so, afair this is supported to an extent | 14:47 |
| kairat | Soo | 14:47 |
| flaper87 | perhaps not in mitaka but at least for N | 14:47 |
| tsufiev | hm... | 14:47 |
| nikhil | oh wait, that's just reads | 14:47 |
| nikhil | nvm | 14:47 |
| tsufiev | flaper87, is there any blocker? | 14:47 |
| kairat | Should we allow to upload image without task? | 14:47 |
| nikhil | range writes is different | 14:47 |
| nikhil | tsufiev: range writes is a complicated problem | 14:47 |
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| kairat | because we need to deal multipart/form-data in this case | 14:48 |
| nikhil | tsufiev: I had a discussion with swift PTL and he mentioned it to be a PhD thesis | 14:48 |
| flaper87 | tsufiev: yup, we're not going to modify the current upload path. That's our current blocker | 14:48 |
| mclaren | flaper87: yup | 14:48 |
| flaper87 | we're almost at the end and there's one more topic | 14:48 |
| tsufiev | nikhil, flaper87: I heard that multpart/form-data decoder could be implemented as an additional middleware | 14:48 |
| tsufiev | I think it was ativelkov who told me that | 14:48 |
| flaper87 | tsufiev: we'll explore that for sure, it just needs to wait a bit longer | 14:49 |
| nikhil | last write wins and when you enable multiple uploads, guaranteed success rate of a data write will be significantly low | 14:49 |
| flaper87 | as we don't have cycles to discuss/implement that and it isn't part of the mitaka priorities | 14:49 |
| flaper87 | ok, moving on! (sorry for cutting the discussion) | 14:49 |
| nikhil | tsufiev: ok, we should discuss this offline. I am interested in knowing more | 14:49 |
| flaper87 | #topic SHA-2 and openssl dependency | 14:49 |
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| flaper87 | no idea who added that | 14:49 |
| tsufiev | nikhil, ok | 14:49 |
| hemanthm | that's me | 14:50 |
| flaper87 | hemanthm: hey! :D | 14:50 |
| hemanthm | https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/common/signature_utils.py#L43-L48 | 14:50 |
| * mclaren note to self: s3 objects seem to support multipart http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonS3/latest/API/RESTObjectPOST.html | 14:50 | |
| hemanthm | So, image signing makes use sha-2 exclusively for digest | 14:50 |
| flaper87 | bpoulos: ^ | 14:51 |
| hemanthm | And, SHA-2 is supported by default on openssl 1.0.1 or higher versions | 14:51 |
| hemanthm | now, on certain platforms like debian6, openssl only goes up to 0.9.8 | 14:51 |
| flaper87 | ah mmh :( | 14:52 |
| hemanthm | which doesn't support SHA-2 by default | 14:52 |
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| hemanthm | so, glance build is broken on those platforms | 14:52 |
| flaper87 | as dhellmann mentioned in the drivers meeting, can we pick the default based on the openssl version? | 14:52 |
| flaper87 | bpoulos: ^ | 14:52 |
| * flaper87 throws some cookies in the channel to grab bpoulos attention | 14:53 | |
| nikhil | does anyone recollect what metadata is set? | 14:53 |
| nikhil | configurability might affect resiliency, so a bit curious | 14:53 |
| bpoulos | hemanthm: I'll take a look | 14:53 |
| bpoulos | I wasn't aware of this dependency | 14:53 |
| flaper87 | I knew cookies would work | 14:54 |
| hemanthm | :) | 14:54 |
| bpoulos | haha | 14:54 |
| hemanthm | bpoulos: thank you! | 14:54 |
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| flaper87 | aaaaaaaaaaaaand another happy customer! | 14:54 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:54 |
| hemanthm | can I get some cookies too? | 14:54 |
| flaper87 | #action bpoulos to look into the openssl dependency for the default signature method | 14:54 |
| * flaper87 gives hemanthm cookies and a cup of coffee | 14:54 | |
| flaper87 | I'd have thrown coffee in the channel but that'd have been a disaster | 14:55 |
| flaper87 | #topic Open Discussion | 14:55 |
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| flaper87 | o/ | 14:55 |
| kairat | flaper87, there is one more topic from bunting as I can see | 14:55 |
| flaper87 | Last week I asked for feedback w.r.t the glance ocmmunity, thinks that are working and especially, thins that are broken | 14:56 |
| bunting | Yeah | 14:56 |
| bunting | I was gonna bring up what we were talking about in the glance room earlier | 14:56 |
| flaper87 | I've got some feedback but not as much as I'd love too. Here's another request for feedback :D | 14:56 |
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| flaper87 | oh, I'm sorry, I didn't see it | 14:56 |
| flaper87 | there are 4 mins left | 14:56 |
| flaper87 | is that enough? or should we wait for next week? | 14:56 |
| bunting | There might not be enought time | 14:57 |
| flaper87 | or discuss it in -glance ? | 14:57 |
| nikhil | flaper87: may be carry over the discussion topics to next meeting (there are 3) | 14:57 |
| nikhil | ? | 14:57 |
| flaper87 | yup, I'll do that | 14:57 |
| avarner_ | Can I get opinions on Bandit tests? Any particular tests that people think are important? | 14:57 |
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| flaper87 | oh the Discussion Topics section | 14:57 |
| flaper87 | I totally skipped that | 14:57 |
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| * flaper87 slaps himself | 14:57 | |
| flaper87 | sorry about that | 14:58 |
| nikhil | and I thought it was the time | 14:58 |
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| nikhil | :P | 14:58 |
| flaper87 | it was the time and my blindness | 14:58 |
| * flaper87 freaks out when he's running out of time | 14:58 | |
| flaper87 | it's a dangerous situation to be in | 14:58 |
| bunting | Haha don't worry | 14:58 |
| bunting | It seems we had two topic sections | 14:59 |
| flaper87 | lets have a single section for all topics | 14:59 |
| flaper87 | we can use sub-bullets | 14:59 |
| flaper87 | ok, thanks folks | 14:59 |
| flaper87 | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 3 14:59:43 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-12-03-13.59.html | 14:59 |
| nikhil | avarner_: not aware atm, I will get to review soon | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-12-03-13.59.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-12-03-13.59.log.html | 14:59 |
| kairat | thanks | 14:59 |
| mclaren | thanks | 15:00 |
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| TravT | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 3 15:00:39 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is TravT. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack search)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search' | 15:00 |
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| TravT | o/ | 15:01 |
| nikhil | o/ | 15:01 |
| sjmc7 | ello | 15:01 |
| yingjun | hi | 15:01 |
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| TravT | maybe a smaller crowd here today. | 15:02 |
| TravT | Here's the agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda | 15:02 |
| nikhil | what has happened to the world!? | 15:03 |
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| rosmaita | o/ | 15:03 |
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| rosmaita | nikhil: don't ask! bad shit is going on everywhere | 15:03 |
| TravT | yeah, seriously | 15:03 |
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| nikhil | how are things in chicago and fort collins? | 15:03 |
| sjmc7 | cold | 15:03 |
| TravT | can't complain too much... just a bit cold | 15:04 |
| TravT | nikhil, are you still in blacksburg? | 15:04 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: oh man! every-time I read news my faint in humanity sinks :( | 15:04 |
| nikhil | faith* | 15:04 |
| nikhil | TravT: yeah | 15:04 |
| TravT | yingjun: where do you live? | 15:04 |
| nikhil | sjmc7: hope the snow situation is better | 15:04 |
| nikhil | hope lakshmi is doing fine (with flood situation) | 15:04 |
| yingjun | China, Changsha | 15:05 |
| nikhil | hi yingjun, we've never met (even virtually) | 15:05 |
| TravT | cool, we're really happy to have you join in the fun here! | 15:05 |
| yingjun | HI, nikhil | 15:05 |
| nikhil | fun indeed | 15:05 |
| yingjun | :), nice to join | 15:06 |
| nikhil | TravT: glad to hear, things are better there. | 15:06 |
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| TravT | allright, let's get on with some topics. we seem to be missing a couple faces, but that happens. | 15:07 |
| TravT | #topic m1 is today | 15:07 |
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| TravT | So, there's this: https://openstack.nimeyo.com/66888/openstack-dev-release-preparing-your-mitaka-milestone-tag | 15:07 |
| ekarlso | hola | 15:08 |
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| ekarlso | i'm lurking :P | 15:08 |
| TravT | howdy ekarlso! | 15:08 |
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| TravT | i'll look at taking care of submitting a few things up | 15:08 |
| TravT | but did have a couple questions | 15:08 |
| TravT | are we aware of any release notes that we missed before landing reno? | 15:09 |
| sjmc7 | no, don’t think so | 15:09 |
| TravT | possibly we should have had one for this patch | 15:10 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245981/ | 15:10 |
| TravT | but i'm not thinking we need to stress over it. | 15:10 |
| rosmaita | +1 for no stress | 15:10 |
| sjmc7 | :) | 15:10 |
| nikhil | :) | 15:11 |
| TravT | so then the next question is version... | 15:11 |
| TravT | we had previously discussed whether to go to 1.0 with mitaka | 15:11 |
| TravT | i think that is the desired goal | 15:11 |
| TravT | but right now setup.cfg os 0.2 | 15:12 |
| sjmc7 | i suppose that depends what we want to call 1.0 | 15:12 |
| TravT | in reading that email, it seems like we should propose 0.2b1 because that is in setup.cfg | 15:12 |
| TravT | but that might mess things up if we jump to 1.0 at the end of mitaka | 15:13 |
| rosmaita | TravT: i am glad you are PTL, i am having a hard time understanding the process | 15:13 |
| nikhil | process is very dynamic | 15:14 |
| TravT | lol, yeah, there have been quite a few changes this last bit in how the release team wants to do things | 15:14 |
| nikhil | not sure if we need to invent a new word for openstack process | 15:14 |
| rosmaita | i think i used a good word earlier | 15:14 |
| TravT | :D | 15:14 |
| nikhil | I may decide to use urban dictionary finally again after 3 years | 15:14 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: you go for it then | 15:15 |
| TravT | \o? | 15:15 |
| nikhil | TravT: I think it should be fine with the .2b1 | 15:15 |
| TravT | that's my head scratching emoticon | 15:15 |
| nikhil | nice! | 15:15 |
| TravT | nikhil: yeah, i think so too. we'll sort out 1.0 decision at the end of this release. | 15:15 |
| nikhil | cool | 15:16 |
| rosmaita | works for me | 15:16 |
| nikhil | (was just about to enter) TravT: why do you anticipate it to be an issue? | 15:16 |
| nikhil | but cool now | 15:16 |
| TravT | for me, 1.0 is a signal that we'll start formally handling deprecations and adhere to stability of plugin interfaces | 15:16 |
| nikhil | gotcha | 15:16 |
| TravT | nikhil: because this process is new that doug put out (including reno) and nobody has experience with it. | 15:16 |
| nikhil | makes sense | 15:17 |
| TravT | ok, well, i'll work on the tag etc today and ping in room if needed later. | 15:17 |
| TravT | so along these lines | 15:18 |
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| TravT | #topic searchlight client launchpad project | 15:18 |
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| TravT | yingjun: has been working on the client | 15:18 |
| TravT | \o/ | 15:18 |
| sjmc7 | i vote strongly not to have another launchpad project | 15:18 |
| sjmc7 | and thanks yingjun for all the hard work | 15:19 |
| yingjun | +1 | 15:19 |
| TravT | i sent out an email http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-November/080525.html | 15:19 |
| nikhil | yingjun: ++ | 15:19 |
| rosmaita | yingjun: +++ | 15:19 |
| nikhil | sjmc7: haha, nice. I think that's fine to have everything consolidated | 15:19 |
| nikhil | so, +1 from me too | 15:19 |
| sjmc7 | i can’t see us ever having a huge number of client-specific issues open | 15:20 |
| nikhil | btw | 15:20 |
| nikhil | TravT: do we plan to release client in M? | 15:20 |
| TravT | i'm happy to not use it for now. my only question was if this would cause us issues with release managment since the client doesn't have to follow the same release schedule. | 15:20 |
| TravT | nikhil: that would be the goal | 15:21 |
| sjmc7 | ah. that, i don’t know | 15:21 |
| TravT | i added release onto that email, but only got crickets from them. | 15:21 |
| nikhil | TravT: I think you can rely on reno for rel mgmt but for milestone tracking no | 15:21 |
| TravT | i think they are dealing with changing the processes for every project right ow | 15:21 |
| nikhil | TravT: you prolly want to be aware about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226157 | 15:22 |
| nikhil | I brought that up in glance mtg | 15:22 |
| nikhil | and it adds a new clause for client back compat | 15:22 |
| TravT | can you summarize for us? | 15:22 |
| nikhil | so, the client release timing would be essential | 15:23 |
| nikhil | sure | 15:23 |
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| nikhil | it's mostly saying that all clients and libraries need to support back compat | 15:23 |
| nikhil | well it mentions that you can deprecate it | 15:23 |
| nikhil | but need to give that some time | 15:23 |
| nikhil | the example suggests 4 cycles | 15:23 |
| nikhil | but I don't anticipate if that would ever be true | 15:23 |
| nikhil | so, when we release something | 15:24 |
| nikhil | we want to ensure that we absolutely want that API to exist for a long time | 15:24 |
| nikhil | if we need to have breaking changes the `process` will be quite painful | 15:24 |
| nikhil | so, for SL client | 15:24 |
| nikhil | if we need to have it in M | 15:24 |
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| nikhil | we prolly should test a beta and commit to client API (CLI stuff) in M official release | 15:25 |
| * nikhil done | 15:25 | |
| nikhil | sorry I missed an imp point -- that sort of ties in with the LP project | 15:25 |
| nikhil | to determine the commitment that the project is giving to the API in a official project page (wherever that might be) | 15:26 |
| * nikhil done for reals | 15:26 | |
| TravT | thx nikhil | 15:27 |
| TravT | did doug add reno to the python glanceclient? | 15:27 |
| nikhil | no | 15:27 |
| nikhil | and I don't think they expect | 15:27 |
| nikhil | but some folks from IBM are requesting | 15:27 |
| nikhil | and that is a discussion item for me with mr. flavio | 15:28 |
| nikhil | that I haven't gotten to yet (with backlog list growing) | 15:28 |
| TravT | ok, so nikhil, does everything you just said and your experience with glance client keep your vote at a +1 to not have a separate launchpad project for searchlight client? | 15:29 |
| nikhil | TravT: nah, that bring me to 0 | 15:29 |
| nikhil | +1 for consolidation | 15:29 |
| sjmc7 | i’m tremendously confused :) | 15:29 |
| nikhil | -1 for explicit communication | 15:29 |
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| nikhil | sjmc7: sorry, I realized a bit before that, I did that | 15:30 |
| TravT | we might need the project just for somewhere to upload the releases of it | 15:30 |
| nikhil | TravT: well, what I meant to say is | 15:30 |
| david-lyle | I think it should be separate, to be contrarian | 15:30 |
| TravT | o/ david-lyle | 15:31 |
| nikhil | I gave some tradeoffs to you all and we can choose to prefer one way over other based on what we want to deal with later | 15:31 |
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| TravT | david-lyle: are you being contrarian for fun or is that your real opinion? | 15:31 |
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| david-lyle | the issues and releases are unique | 15:31 |
| david-lyle | once people start piling on bugs and bps, it will get noisy | 15:32 |
| david-lyle | and harder to track | 15:32 |
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| TravT | the separate releases is the thing that makes me lean towards having its own project | 15:32 |
| david-lyle | for consumers and devs | 15:32 |
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| TravT | i think we need to record a vote here... but before doing, any more points to consider? | 15:33 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, i’m leaning that way as well now | 15:33 |
| nikhil | I was told in a x-prj metg | 15:34 |
| nikhil | that we are going to have some other tool for bugs | 15:34 |
| nikhil | not LP | 15:34 |
| nikhil | not sure how much has that been moved fwd | 15:34 |
| david-lyle | nikhil: they've said that for 5 releases now | 15:34 |
| david-lyle | I'll believe it... | 15:34 |
| nikhil | :) | 15:34 |
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| TravT | i'm wondering how that'll help things at this point | 15:34 |
| david-lyle | change for the sake of change | 15:35 |
| nikhil | the opinion they had was projects can have LP for their own tracking purposes | 15:35 |
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| nikhil | but some <tool> for bugs, spec for BPs, and reno for rel | 15:35 |
| nikhil | that was my impression | 15:35 |
| nikhil | but as a prj we can choose to have LP | 15:35 |
| nikhil | and like I said, there are tradeoffs to either | 15:36 |
| nikhil | with my +0 | 15:36 |
| david-lyle | until the replacement is more than handwaving, launchpad is what we have | 15:36 |
| TravT | i fail to see how specs (gerrit) on its own actually is good enough for BPs. (no assignees, priority, etc) | 15:36 |
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| * TravT worries that the wheels are coming off the bus for process management tools | 15:37 | |
| david-lyle | we're on 3/4 now | 15:37 |
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| david-lyle | nothing mass confusion and chaos won't fix | 15:38 |
| david-lyle | :( | 15:38 |
| TravT | okay, to stay on track with current topic, i'm going to put out a irc vote. | 15:38 |
| nikhil | :D | 15:38 |
| TravT | #startvote (Should we use a separate LP project for python-searchlightclient)? yes, no | 15:38 |
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| openstack | Begin voting on: (Should we use a separate LP project for python-searchlightclient)? Valid vote options are yes, no. | 15:38 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 15:38 |
| david-lyle | #vote yes | 15:39 |
| rosmaita | #vote yes | 15:39 |
| nikhil | I am fine w/ either | 15:39 |
| TravT | #vote yes | 15:39 |
| sjmc7 | #vote yes | 15:39 |
| TravT | yingjun? | 15:39 |
| yingjun | fine for either too | 15:40 |
| TravT | ekarlso: you still lurking and care at all? | 15:40 |
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| TravT | #endvote | 15:41 |
| openstack | Voted on "(Should we use a separate LP project for python-searchlightclient)?" Results are | 15:41 |
| openstack | yes (4): TravT, david-lyle, rosmaita, sjmc7 | 15:41 |
| TravT | okay, so we'll keep it... | 15:41 |
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| yingjun | I’ll update the doc.. | 15:42 |
| TravT | thank you! | 15:42 |
| TravT | #topic client command brainstorming | 15:42 |
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| TravT | yingjun: has a patch up with the first command on it | 15:42 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249076/ | 15:42 |
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| TravT | i added a comment about starting to sketch out the full suite of commands (so we have a basic roadmap of where we are going even if the first patch is only the first command) | 15:43 |
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| TravT | but i think we should spend some time brainstorming that out | 15:43 |
| TravT | so, we don't have to do it here | 15:44 |
| TravT | but here is an etherpad | 15:44 |
| TravT | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/searchlight-cli-brainstorming | 15:44 |
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| TravT | so, please take a look and add thoughts | 15:45 |
| ekarlso | tarya :p | 15:45 |
| ekarlso | TravT: .. | 15:45 |
| ekarlso | TravT: just busy busy -,,- | 15:46 |
| TravT | no worries | 15:46 |
| TravT | #topic specs | 15:46 |
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| ekarlso | anyone started the cli yet that I can take a look at ? | 15:46 |
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| TravT | ekarlso: yingjun has started it | 15:46 |
| sjmc7 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247565/ ekarlso | 15:47 |
| sjmc7 | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249076/ | 15:47 |
| ekarlso | ok, i'll go look alter :) | 15:47 |
| TravT | thank you! | 15:47 |
| TravT | re: specs | 15:47 |
| TravT | sjmc7 and I have been having some fun with two that are "essential" for mitaka | 15:48 |
| TravT | they are admittedly kind of heavy to read | 15:48 |
| TravT | but we do need to work through them and come to some conclusion so we can work them out | 15:48 |
| TravT | and get implemented this release | 15:49 |
| TravT | if you can take a look please do. sjmc7 is actually going to be in fort collins next week, so we'll talk through them more in person next week | 15:49 |
| TravT | Admin search fields unless already addresed above | 15:50 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245357/ | 15:50 |
| TravT | Zero downtime re-indexing | 15:50 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245222/ | 15:50 |
| TravT | sjmc7: anything specific to bring up today? | 15:50 |
| sjmc7 | about those? not really, except if anyone’s interested to look them over | 15:51 |
| sjmc7 | though i did also want to briefly mention the elasticsearch client version palava | 15:51 |
| TravT | #topic elasticsearch client versioning | 15:51 |
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| sjmc7 | that’s the one! | 15:52 |
| TravT | mention away sjmc7 | 15:52 |
| sjmc7 | apologies yingjun, i should’ve mentioned i’d already proposed a patch to openstack/requirements at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252075/ | 15:52 |
| sjmc7 | capping the client version at 1.9.0 | 15:52 |
| yingjun | sjmc7, no worries | 15:53 |
| sjmc7 | gordon chung seems ok with it | 15:53 |
| sjmc7 | says they’ve only tested with 1.7 | 15:53 |
| sjmc7 | and i don’t think anyone else uses it | 15:53 |
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| sjmc7 | i’ll pick some random infra people today to add as reviewers | 15:54 |
| TravT | yeah, we need to get this through | 15:54 |
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| sjmc7 | we’ll need to do a small amount of work to be 2.0-compatbile | 15:54 |
| sjmc7 | i’ll file a ticket | 15:54 |
| TravT | because searchlight doesn't work in out of the box devstack at the moment because of the 2.0 client release. | 15:55 |
| david-lyle | is the query syntax different between versions? | 15:55 |
| sjmc7 | david-lyle - there’s one thing that isn’t supported in 2.0, which is deleting by document type | 15:55 |
| sjmc7 | that’s the only thing i’ve found we do that doesn’t work as expected | 15:55 |
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| david-lyle | ok, that's not too bad | 15:56 |
| sjmc7 | and actually, a fresh devstack install should be ok unless i’ve missed something | 15:56 |
| sjmc7 | unless the data already exists | 15:56 |
| sjmc7 | but yes, needs fixing | 15:56 |
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| TravT | https://bugs.launchpad.net/searchlight/+bug/1515412 | 15:57 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1515412 in OpenStack Search (Searchlight) "python elasticsearch must match server version" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Liyingjun (liyingjun) | 15:57 |
| TravT | ok, well, let's get the version capped for now, unless yingjun / sjmc7 come up with a searchlight fix first. | 15:57 |
| sjmc7 | i think the version cap’s sensible anyway | 15:58 |
| sjmc7 | while devstack and most people will be using 1.x | 15:58 |
| TravT | i think for now... | 15:58 |
| TravT | but it can't stay that way. | 15:58 |
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| TravT | ok, thanks yingjun and sjmc7 | 15:58 |
| TravT | out of time. | 15:59 |
| TravT | #topic parting words | 15:59 |
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| TravT | any last words? | 15:59 |
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| TravT | thanks everybody! | 15:59 |
| TravT | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 3 16:00:08 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2015/openstack_search.2015-12-03-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2015/openstack_search.2015-12-03-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2015/openstack_search.2015-12-03-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
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| odyssey4me | #startmeeting OpenStack Ansible Meeting | 16:09 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 3 16:09:05 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is odyssey4me. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:09 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:09 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible_meeting' | 16:09 |
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| odyssey4me | #topic Agenda & rollcall | 16:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Agenda & rollcall (Meeting topic: OpenStack Ansible Meeting)" | 16:09 | |
| odyssey4me | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 16:09 |
| serverascode | o/ | 16:09 |
| alextricity | here | 16:09 |
| oneswig | \o | 16:09 |
| palendae | Present | 16:09 |
| stevelle | o/ | 16:09 |
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| javeriak | here | 16:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | yay two meetings at once | 16:09 |
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| mattt | \o | 16:10 |
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| odyssey4me | sorry for the belated start | 16:10 |
| jwagner | o/ | 16:10 |
| hughsaunders | hey | 16:10 |
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| odyssey4me | ok, so a quick review | 16:12 |
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| odyssey4me | #topic Review action items from last week | 16:12 |
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| prometheanfire | hi | 16:12 |
| odyssey4me | 12.0.1 and 11.2.5 were released | 16:12 |
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| odyssey4me | we missed a meeting last week - I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving :) | 16:13 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Release Planning and Decisions | 16:13 |
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| odyssey4me | ok, so today we need to make a call of 3 releases | 16:13 |
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| odyssey4me | #link https://launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+milestone/mitaka-1 | 16:13 |
| odyssey4me | #link https://launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+milestone/12.0.2 | 16:14 |
| odyssey4me | #link https://launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+milestone/11.2.6 | 16:14 |
| odyssey4me | for Mitaka-1 I had hoped that we'd have the upgrade work done by now, but unfortunately that hasn't really happened | 16:14 |
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| odyssey4me | I think I can safely release it without much issue - any comments/thoughts/questions? | 16:15 |
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| mattt | odyssey4me: upgrade work? | 16:16 |
| odyssey4me | mattt https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/liberty-upgrade-path / https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-upgrade-framework | 16:16 |
| odyssey4me | so far we have no-one biting on any of the work | 16:16 |
| odyssey4me | no input at all in the etherpad, except my own | 16:17 |
| odyssey4me | so we'll have to carry that to the next milestone | 16:17 |
| odyssey4me | but I'd really like some input there in the next week, please | 16:17 |
| mattt | yeah i think the last thing people are focusd on at the minute is upgrading liberty :P | 16:17 |
| odyssey4me | mattt the idea is to prepare an upgrade framework which will act as the basis for all upgrades from now on | 16:18 |
| odyssey4me | with the starting point being kilo -> liberty | 16:18 |
| mattt | odyssey4me: ok makes sense | 16:19 |
| palendae | odyssey4me: I think there was a group inside of Rackspace making a list of concerns for any type of upgrades, not just major -> major. I'm not sure who here is on that team though | 16:19 |
| palendae | I know I've passed those links to them | 16:19 |
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| odyssey4me | palendae sure, and any efforts elsewhere can feed into this over time... but I think we already have some clear needs to work on and OSA can provide the appropriate tooling for downstream consumers to use | 16:20 |
| palendae | Yeah | 16:20 |
| d34dh0r53 | I'm good with 11.2.6 | 16:23 |
| odyssey4me | I think that 12.0.2 needs https://review.openstack.org/252100 | 16:23 |
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| odyssey4me | and yeah, 11.2.6 I think is good | 16:24 |
| javeriak | I'll give 252100 a review | 16:25 |
| odyssey4me | thanks javeriak - that'd be great | 16:25 |
| odyssey4me | #startvote Release 11.2.6 today? | 16:26 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Release 11.2.6 today? Valid vote options are Yes, No. | 16:26 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 16:26 |
| odyssey4me | #vote yes | 16:26 |
| alextricity | #vote yes | 16:26 |
| odyssey4me | #vote Yes | 16:26 |
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| alextricity | #vote Yes | 16:26 |
| alextricity | ? | 16:26 |
| odyssey4me | :) it's case sensitive | 16:27 |
| javeriak | #vote Yes | 16:27 |
| odyssey4me | d34dh0r53 palendae mattt hughsaunders ? | 16:27 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull ? | 16:27 |
| mattt | #vote Yes | 16:27 |
| mattt | (since i'm not aware of any reason to not release??) | 16:27 |
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| stevelle | #vote Yes | 16:28 |
| cloudnull | #vote Yes | 16:28 |
| cloudnull | typie typie | 16:28 |
| hughsaunders | #vote yes | 16:28 |
| palendae | #vote yes | 16:29 |
| odyssey4me | #endvote | 16:29 |
| openstack | Voted on "Release 11.2.6 today?" Results are | 16:29 |
| odyssey4me | lol | 16:30 |
| alextricity | the suspense is killing me | 16:30 |
| odyssey4me | oh dear, we broke it | 16:30 |
| odyssey4me | I think it's clear. I'll tag after this meeting. | 16:30 |
| alextricity | now we will never know | 16:30 |
| jwagner | im gonna say its a yes | 16:30 |
| cloudnull | pushed till next week | 16:30 |
| odyssey4me | next - | 16:30 |
| jwagner | i demand a recount! | 16:30 |
| d34dh0r53 | my chad was hanging | 16:31 |
| odyssey4me | #startvote Release 12.0.2 now, or wait until https://review.openstack.org/252100 merges into the Liberty branch? now, wait | 16:31 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Release 12.0.2 now, or wait until https://review.openstack.org/252100 merges into the Liberty branch? Valid vote options are now, wait. | 16:31 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 16:31 |
| odyssey4me | #vote wait | 16:31 |
| cloudnull | #vote Yes | 16:32 |
| openstack | cloudnull: Yes is not a valid option. Valid options are now, wait. | 16:32 |
| cloudnull | #vote Now! | 16:32 |
| openstack | cloudnull: Now! is not a valid option. Valid options are now, wait. | 16:32 |
| odyssey4me | haha, cloudnull got reprimanded by a bot | 16:32 |
| cloudnull | #vote now | 16:32 |
| cloudnull | ??? | 16:32 |
| cloudnull | thank you openstack | 16:32 |
| javeriak | haha oh man... you guys are going to drive the poor bot crazy | 16:32 |
| alextricity | #vote wait | 16:32 |
| d34dh0r53 | #vote wait | 16:32 |
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| mattt | #vote wait | 16:33 |
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| BjoernT | #vote Yes | 16:33 |
| openstack | BjoernT: Yes is not a valid option. Valid options are now, wait. | 16:33 |
| BjoernT | #vote now | 16:33 |
| javeriak | #vote now | 16:33 |
| stevelle | #vote now | 16:35 |
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| hughsaunders | #vote wait | 16:35 |
| odyssey4me | andymccr ? | 16:35 |
| andymccr | #vote now | 16:36 |
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| odyssey4me | so there is a fair point to be made - tags are cheap, we can tag another release after the patch merges | 16:37 |
| palendae | #vote now | 16:37 |
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| odyssey4me | if that changes anyone's vote, that's cool | 16:37 |
| odyssey4me | #endvote | 16:38 |
| openstack | Voted on "Release 12.0.2 now, or wait until https://review.openstack.org/252100 merges into the Liberty branch?" Results are | 16:38 |
| openstack | now (6): palendae, andymccr, javeriak, BjoernT, stevelle, cloudnull | 16:38 |
| openstack | wait (5): alextricity, d34dh0r53, mattt, odyssey4me, hughsaunders | 16:38 |
| odyssey4me | alright, I'll tag after the meeting :) | 16:38 |
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| odyssey4me | we should probably actually discuss under what situations we would hold back a tag | 16:39 |
| mattt | i think so | 16:39 |
| mattt | because it feels a bit arbitrary at the moment | 16:39 |
| odyssey4me | tags are cheap, and perhaps it should only ever be held back for a bug marked critical | 16:39 |
| odyssey4me | and critical would be for bugs that result in a seriously broken result | 16:39 |
| cloudnull | I'm good with that | 16:39 |
| alextricity | Considering this is opensource...that works | 16:40 |
| mattt | alextricity: haha | 16:40 |
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| odyssey4me | :) | 16:40 |
| alextricity | but from the deploys perspective, it will suck to pull from the latest release tag only to result in a broken-stack | 16:40 |
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| odyssey4me | haha, I see what you did there :) | 16:41 |
| alextricity | :) | 16:41 |
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| odyssey4me | all right | 16:42 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Open Discussion | 16:42 |
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| odyssey4me | anyone got anything specific to discuss? | 16:42 |
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| oneswig | What should we do to get the ball rolling with multi-OS support? | 16:42 |
| oneswig | As in, where can I help? | 16:42 |
| palendae | oneswig: I think the biggest thing is a spec, and someone willing to spearhead it. As in, lead on the work | 16:43 |
| cloudnull | ^ that | 16:43 |
| cloudnull | we'd love to see Multi-OS | 16:43 |
| BjoernT | +1 | 16:43 |
| odyssey4me | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-multi-os-support | 16:44 |
| alextricity | ^^ That is definitely a good start. | 16:44 |
| cloudnull | we just need some folks to want to help out with the work and to maintain it | 16:44 |
| odyssey4me | that's the working notes | 16:44 |
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| BjoernT | I'm a Fedora dude so I'm willing to help here | 16:44 |
| alextricity | What is this? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/multi-platform-host | 16:44 |
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| odyssey4me | we are looking for someone to volunteer as the lead to co-ordinate the work | 16:44 |
| palendae | alextricity: afaik that's a placeholder right now | 16:45 |
| odyssey4me | we're happy to orientate and coach, but no-one has yet stepped | 16:45 |
| odyssey4me | up | 16:45 |
| cloudnull | oneswig: I've done some work with RHEL/CentOS too but its a bit hacky at this point. | 16:45 |
| odyssey4me | oneswig how do you feel about taking up the lead? | 16:45 |
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| oneswig | I've previously worked on multi-distro ports of packaging, but won't have time to lead and do justice. | 16:45 |
| palendae | cloudnull: Is your Debian stuff up-to-date? | 16:45 |
| cloudnull | no | 16:45 |
| oneswig | I suggest we break it into pieces and spec those | 16:45 |
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| odyssey4me | alright, oneswig perhaps you can suggest that in the etherpad? | 16:46 |
| cloudnull | oneswig: ++ | 16:46 |
| cloudnull | palendae: i should rebase some of that | 16:46 |
| cloudnull | for science :) | 16:46 |
| odyssey4me | add your thoughts with regards to how the pieces would be broken up - we can all chime in | 16:46 |
| palendae | cloudnull: Mostly curious as some of that relates to getting ready for 16.04, too | 16:46 |
| oneswig | I'm already in the etherpad - I'll add notes | 16:46 |
| palendae | Like systemd | 16:46 |
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| oneswig | Is there a means of testing what we do? | 16:46 |
| oneswig | CI for this stuff? | 16:46 |
| odyssey4me | BjoernT you can also add some notes into the etherpad | 16:47 |
| cloudnull | palendae: yea. the systemD stuff would be useful to get done | 16:47 |
| odyssey4me | prometheanfire as this is of interest for gentoo, I expect you'll have some thoughts too? | 16:47 |
| palendae | oneswig: The current gates only do ubuntu right now, but openstack has infrastructure for red hat based distros | 16:47 |
| cloudnull | we have a spce for that in Mitaka which I was supposed to work on but IDK if ill have time . | 16:47 |
| odyssey4me | palendae yeah, CentOS/Fedora is easy right now in -infra | 16:48 |
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| palendae | cloudnull: My hunch is Mitaka's gonna miss getting 16.04 based on dates | 16:48 |
| cloudnull | i'd agree | 16:48 |
| palendae | Also since April is right before May, which I think is when Mitaka's out | 16:49 |
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| odyssey4me | yep, 16.04 I expect will need to be next cycle | 16:49 |
| oneswig | I am busy next week, but will pick up the week after | 16:50 |
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| cloudnull | oneswig: for general CI in OpenStack infra we're covered. If we get multi-OS convergence we can run tempest against the stack to validate functionality. | 16:50 |
| cloudnull | oneswig: sweet ! | 16:51 |
| palendae | cloudnull: Does infra allow us to add arbitrary distros? | 16:51 |
| palendae | Or is it only Debian/Ubuntu and Red Hatty ones? | 16:51 |
| cloudnull | last i remember, yes, if the distro being added was built using their image builder. | 16:51 |
| palendae | Ah, right | 16:51 |
| cloudnull | i think prometheanfire worked on some of that | 16:51 |
| cloudnull | he may know more in that regards. | 16:51 |
| odyssey4me | yep, it takes some doing - but is not impossible | 16:52 |
| palendae | So there's tooling | 16:52 |
| palendae | Which is fine | 16:52 |
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| odyssey4me | alright, unless anyone wants to raise anything else - we can continue chatting in #openstack-ansible | 16:54 |
| odyssey4me | thank you all for your time today! | 16:54 |
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| alextricity | maybe someone smarter than me can take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1522250 | 16:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1522250 in openstack-ansible "Ceilometer compute namespace drivers not loading" [Undecided,New] | 16:54 |
| alextricity | no rush though | 16:54 |
| odyssey4me | stevelle ^ ? | 16:55 |
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| cloudnull | he may know more in that regards. / | 16:56 |
| cloudnull | sorry ... . | 16:56 |
| cloudnull | alextricity: is that liberty | 16:56 |
| stevelle | I'm thick in some other things right now with my ceilo workspace, testing that has to wait for me to clean it up a bit | 16:56 |
| stevelle | I did see it show up, and do intend to test it though | 16:57 |
| alextricity | im' working from master, but it probably affects liberty too | 16:57 |
| alextricity | I'm going to try it without venv to see if that fixes | 16:57 |
| alextricity | it | 16:57 |
| cloudnull | ah. so python-libvirt likely needs to be installed in the venv | 16:57 |
| alextricity | probably | 16:57 |
| cloudnull | source the venv and install the libs to see if its fixed | 16:58 |
| alextricity | I'm little bit of a python noob when it comes to packaging things | 16:58 |
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| alextricity | will do | 16:58 |
| stevelle | sounds legit | 16:58 |
| cloudnull | once you activate the venv, you can pip install python-libvirt and other things if needed | 16:58 |
| alextricity | sounds easy enough :) | 16:59 |
| cloudnull | if that fixes it, we can add the package to the ceilometer role and itll get picked up automatically. | 16:59 |
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| odyssey4me | alrighty, we need to clear the room for the next meeting | 16:59 |
| odyssey4me | thanks all :) | 16:59 |
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| alextricity | thank you! | 16:59 |
| odyssey4me | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 3 16:59:44 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-12-03-16.09.html | 16:59 |
| cloudnull | thanks odyssey4me | 16:59 |
| cloudnull | see you all in the channel | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-12-03-16.09.txt | 16:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-12-03-16.09.log.html | 16:59 |
| cathy_ | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 3 17:00:04 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cathy_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 17:00 |
| cathy_ | hi everyone | 17:00 |
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| vikram | hi | 17:00 |
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| mohankumar | hi | 17:00 |
| cathy_ | vikram: welcom back! | 17:00 |
| johnsom | o/ | 17:00 |
| vikram | cathy_: thanx | 17:00 |
| cathy_ | hi mohankumar johnsom | 17:00 |
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| pcarver | hi | 17:01 |
| cathy_ | hi s3wong | 17:01 |
| cathy_ | hi pcarver | 17:01 |
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| s3wong | hello | 17:01 |
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| cathy_ | any topic you would like to discuss today? | 17:01 |
| Prithiv | sfc manager | 17:02 |
| igordcard | hi all | 17:02 |
| vikram | cathy_: I have raised a bug for that | 17:02 |
| cathy_ | hi igordcard Prithiv | 17:02 |
| vikram | https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/1513368 | 17:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1513368 in networking-sfc "Introducing SFC manager" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to vikram.choudhary (vikschw) | 17:02 |
| vikram | cathy_: It will be great to have it | 17:03 |
| s3wong | what is SFC manager? | 17:03 |
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| Prithiv | hi cathy... also, about the issue that i have posted in networking-sfc page | 17:03 |
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| cathy_ | vikram: yes, but we can deliver that in the second phase. Ok with you? | 17:03 |
| Prithiv | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233758/ | 17:03 |
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| cathy_ | Prithiv: let me take a look at the link | 17:04 |
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| vikram | cathy_: when is the second phase planned? | 17:04 |
| prithivm | thank you cathy | 17:04 |
| cathy_ | vikram: could you change the bug name to something like "SFC OAM operation" since we already have a "SFC manager" terminology in our design to refer to management of the chain resources | 17:05 |
| vikram | cathy_: Sure I will | 17:05 |
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| cathy_ | vikram: thanks. | 17:05 |
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| vikram | cathy_: Done | 17:05 |
| vikram | cathy_: when is the second phase planned? | 17:05 |
| vikram | cathy_: Can you approve the bug so that we can start some initial write-up? | 17:06 |
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| mohankumar | s3wong , it monitor and helps debugging faults in SFC chain. | 17:06 |
| vikram | s3wong: Just changed the bug heading | 17:07 |
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| cathy_ | vikram: yes, I can do that | 17:07 |
| s3wong | vikram, mohankumar: OK... taking a look now. Thanks | 17:07 |
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| cathy_ | Prithiv: the link in the comment is not valid. Could you check that and update the links? But anyway, we will take a look at the issue off line and get back to you. | 17:08 |
| vikram | cathy_: Thanks.. | 17:08 |
| Prithiv | sure. I will send you a detailed email about the error | 17:08 |
| vikram | Cathy_: One help | 17:08 |
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| vikram | Cathy_: I feel most of the people are struggling testing our changes | 17:09 |
| cathy_ | Prithiv: thanks. please, we will try it to see the problem, investigate that , and get back to you | 17:09 |
| Prithiv | thank you cathy... no problem | 17:09 |
| cathy_ | vikram: yes, we are doing the testing too. | 17:09 |
| vikram | Cathy_: It would be better if can document the test procedure | 17:09 |
| cathy_ | here are some update of our recent work | 17:09 |
| pcarver | vikram: +1 | 17:09 |
| vikram | Cathy_: test + installation process | 17:10 |
| cathy_ | I think most of the issues are related to the installation process. | 17:10 |
| Prithiv | cathy: yes, i agree | 17:10 |
| cathy_ | we spent quite some time getting it installed. | 17:10 |
| pcarver | vikram: I've been splitting my time between code review and trying to actually get the code working. I'm reluctant to spend too much time reviewing code when I can't get it to even install/work. | 17:10 |
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| pcarver | I'd spend more time reviewing code if I were spending less time just trying to get it installed/working. | 17:11 |
| igordcard | pcarver, +1 | 17:11 |
| cathy_ | Now we have got it installed on multiple machines and start doing conprehensive end-to-end SFC setup/update/deletion functionality testing | 17:11 |
| vikram | pcarver: me either ;( | 17:11 |
| Prithiv | pcarver: with you on that | 17:11 |
| igordcard | also I can't seem to actually test it because the flow classifier is WIP | 17:11 |
| LouisF | igordcard: your email indicated that you have been able to install using your procedures | 17:11 |
| igordcard | LouisF, yes, it is running at the moment - however no flow classifier right? | 17:12 |
| cathy_ | so looks like the devstack patch has some glitch integrating with the code | 17:12 |
| LouisF | igordcard: classifier should be there | 17:12 |
| pcarver | igordcard's latest procedure did work for me as far as installation, but I'm not sure I've actually reached functionally working. | 17:12 |
| vikram | cathy_: IMO, we must start getting the code in at the earliest | 17:13 |
| Prithiv | Louis, i am not able to install with the latest commit of neutron (770624b13bf57fdab549bfb66ee9cc6781ae8d65) but am able to get the q-agt runnign with neutron older commit (commit 9b531b9e4eb6edfc1ad0d5ebfed6cd9b90e89422) | 17:13 |
| LouisF | igordcard: are you still having a problem starting the agent? | 17:13 |
| igordcard | LouisF, can you send some recommended API calls to deploy a simple working chain amongst 2 VMs, after the meeting? | 17:13 |
| LouisF | igordcard: ok | 17:13 |
| igordcard | LouisF, no, the agent is fine if I rollback neutron to some revisions earlier | 17:13 |
| Prithiv | but with the newer revision of neutron, the agent doesnt start | 17:14 |
| LouisF | igordcard: neutron or networking-sfc code? | 17:14 |
| cathy_ | vikram: after we get the end-to-end functionality testing cases all passed, I will approve the codes. But before we get to that stage, I would rather not get the codes merged. | 17:14 |
| Prithiv | it looks for the module create_agent_config_map | 17:14 |
| Prithiv | and fails | 17:14 |
| igordcard | everything seems to work from the outside, with the ovs driver enabled, but when I create a chain, I can only see MPLS decapsulation flows - I don't seen any MPLS encapsulation flows | 17:14 |
| igordcard | so traffic never gets steered | 17:14 |
| mohankumar | Prithiv ,+1 | 17:14 |
| vikram | cathy_: When we can start the review? | 17:14 |
| igordcard | LouisF, neutron code | 17:15 |
| cathy_ | I understand that once we have the first patches of code in, the painful dependency issues are gone. So we are working hard everyday on the testing and bug fixes | 17:15 |
| vikram | cathy_: Is the patches ready for review? | 17:15 |
| igordcard | LouisF, recent neutron commits have made the error create_agent_config_map appear | 17:15 |
| cathy_ | yes, they have been open for review for over one month. | 17:15 |
| LouisF | igordcard: so you are using master not stable/liberty? | 17:15 |
| igordcard | LouisF, yes, master | 17:15 |
| pcarver | Do we have a prioritized list of changes for merging? | 17:16 |
| igordcard | LouisF, will stick to stable/liberty then, no reason for master in this scenario | 17:16 |
| cathy_ | vikram: I understand you have been on leave for several weeks. | 17:16 |
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| LouisF | igordcard: yes using master we will be affected by neutron commits | 17:16 |
| pcarver | I mean, if we were to merge changes one at a time, do we know what order we would like to tackle them? | 17:16 |
| cathy_ | pcarver: yes, we have the dependency order | 17:16 |
| vikram | cathy_: plz let the team know when the patches are ready for review.. | 17:17 |
| vikram | cathy_: we can help ;) | 17:17 |
| igordcard | personally I was going to review everything at once after I had successfully deployed a chain, but so far haven't been able | 17:17 |
| cathy_ | pcarver: I think we will merge the patches that run on the Neutron server, then the patches running on the Compute node, then the patches of Horizon, CLI, Heat. make sense to you? | 17:17 |
| igordcard | cathy_, about Horizon, where are the patches? | 17:18 |
| Prithiv | the horizon patches by mohan seems to work when i tried | 17:18 |
| vikram | igordcard: it's there.. mohankumar can share | 17:18 |
| cathy_ | mohankumar: could you post the link of the horizon patch to igordcard ? | 17:18 |
| igordcard | vikram, cathy_ thank you | 17:18 |
| Prithiv | i have it igor | 17:18 |
| igordcard | Prithiv, I want to see it upstream or up for review | 17:18 |
| pcarver | cathy_: I think so. I just don't know if I've got the right list. My thought based on igordcard's install instructions would be to focus on 238428 and 233758 | 17:18 |
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| vikram | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231868/ | 17:19 |
| pcarver | because those are the two changes that his instructions pull in in order to get a working install | 17:19 |
| vikram | igordcad: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231868/ | 17:19 |
| pcarver | I don't want to give +1 or +2 to anything that I haven't pulled in locally to a working installation | 17:19 |
| igordcard | vikram, oh.. so horizon is the only one where support can go to the upstream project (Horizon)? | 17:20 |
| cathy_ | pcarver: so you mean that the devstack patch that mohan posted does not work? | 17:20 |
| mohankumar | igordcard , https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231868/ | 17:20 |
| igordcard | pcarver, same thought here | 17:20 |
| vikram | igordcard: mohankumar can update on this | 17:20 |
| pcarver | cathy_: I haven't checked it. I've been focussing on igordcard's instructions and getting them to work. | 17:21 |
| igordcard | vikram, mohankumar okay thanks, we can talk offline | 17:21 |
| mohankumar | igordcard , will ping you once meeting finished | 17:21 |
| igordcard | cathy_, I believe mohan's patch would work if the code was already merged | 17:22 |
| cathy_ | pcarver: I would like us to have one destack patch that works and that everyone can use to install the functionality. | 17:22 |
| igordcard | cathy_, I have left some comments on mohankumar devstack patch | 17:22 |
| cathy_ | igordcard: OK, thanks for the info | 17:22 |
| pcarver | cathy_: agreed. I don't want redundant effort | 17:22 |
| vikram | pcarver: can you mention about the issue you are facing for the devstack patch | 17:22 |
| cathy_ | pcarver: so let's use mohan's devstack patch to install it and post comments if something does not work or any modification suggestion. This will benefit other people having the same issue. | 17:23 |
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| pcarver | vikram: I've been following instructions that igordcard sent in email and got to the point that the services are running and the database tables are present. | 17:24 |
| mohankumar | cathy_ : devstack changes will work , once all the code gets into sfc repo | 17:24 |
| igordcard | cathy_, not really possible until the code is merged - it's a chicken and egg problem - what we need now is cumbersome, but working, instructions, so we can test and try, then review and merge - and then a single devstack plugin enabling will be enough | 17:24 |
| pcarver | vikram: but I can't create VMs due to some other problem that may or may not be sfc related. I haven't dug into it yet, but it prevented me from setting up a service chain if I can't create a VM. | 17:24 |
| mohankumar | till then some manual efforts needs based on patch updates we having | 17:25 |
| cathy_ | mohankumar: thanks. SO I guess the key issue is that we need to get all the codes merged into the repo, then the installation process pain will be gone. | 17:25 |
| igordcard | cathy_, oh yeah | 17:25 |
| vikram | cathy_:+++1000 | 17:25 |
| igordcard | pcarver, we can talk here on IRC afterwards to bring the VMs up as well | 17:26 |
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| igordcard | pcarver, but I can't help about the chaining itself, as I don't see the encapsulation flows on ovs-ofctl :( | 17:26 |
| pcarver | igordcard: Thanks, I'll try. Meetings are a persistent issue as well, today may be mostly a loss. | 17:27 |
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| igordcard | which is why I was asking about the flow classifier readiness, even more because it is marked as WIP right now | 17:27 |
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| cathy_ | igordcard: vikram OK, I will approve the merge once all the end-to-end functionality test cases are all passed. Maybe another week or shorter since now we have got several testbeds up and the SFC installed and have progressed on the testing well. | 17:27 |
| cathy_ | pcarver: we have got VM created and chained in on several of our testbeds. | 17:28 |
| vikram | cathy_: plz notify the team when to start the review before the merge | 17:28 |
| cathy_ | pcarver: besides getting a VM installed, you also need to either have a SF running on the VM or do some config to fake the traffic hair-pin through the VM. | 17:29 |
| igordcard | vikram, +1 | 17:29 |
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| cathy_ | vikram: you can start the review now. As I said before, all the patches have been open for review for over one month and we have incorporated most if not all comments | 17:30 |
| vikram | cathy_: thanks | 17:30 |
| igordcard | cathy_, what do you mean by that having a SF running on the VM? | 17:30 |
| pcarver | cathy_: yep, understood. My latest issue is just not being able to boot a VM and a bunch of errors on the q-agt screen. I haven't had time between meetings to get to the bottom of it. | 17:30 |
| cathy_ | pcarver: that seems like a non-SFC issue. | 17:31 |
| Prithiv | cathy: same question as igor | 17:31 |
| pcarver | igordcard, cathy_: I'm assuming something as simple as a Linux VM with IP forwarding enabled will suffice as an SF to demonstrate that the chaining works. | 17:32 |
| Prithiv | pcarver: +1 | 17:32 |
| Prithiv | from the demo vi, it sounded like that | 17:32 |
| Prithiv | demo vid | 17:32 |
| igordcard | pcarver, understood | 17:32 |
| cathy_ | igordcard: Prithiv yes, pcarver stated what I meant:-) | 17:32 |
| igordcard | so, if I set up tcpdump in my VM I should see packets coming in right? even if I don't enable anything | 17:32 |
| LouisF | pcarver: correct | 17:32 |
| pcarver | cathy_: maybe, maybe not. One of the files in the traceback is /opt/stack/networking-sfc/networking_sfc/services/sfc/agent/agent.py but it's not the top of bottom of the traceback, so I'm not sure if it's the cause. | 17:33 |
| pcarver | but we don't need to discuss that as part of this meeting | 17:33 |
| cathy_ | igordcard: yes if you enable some "Ip forwarding" so that the traffic going into the VM will be fowarded out of the VM and can go to next SF VM per the API specification | 17:33 |
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| cathy_ | pcarver: let's discuss that offline after you did a little bit more investigation on the VM creation issue | 17:34 |
| pcarver | cathy_: agreed | 17:35 |
| igordcard | cathy_, this was my scenario: client VM - SF1 VM - Internet ; traffic was sent from the client VM, but was never captured in SF1 VM (in its ingress interface) | 17:35 |
| igordcard | I will share the flow list, at least for reference: http://paste.openstack.org/show/cIjekDRVyMxkyOQCZdYc/ | 17:35 |
| cathy_ | what chain API did you specify? | 17:35 |
| igordcard | I see pop_mpls flows, but I don't see any push_mpls flows | 17:36 |
| cathy_ | did you set up the SF1 VM to do the "hairpin"? | 17:36 |
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| igordcard | cathy_, so, SF1 was a port-pair-group with a single port-pair inside | 17:36 |
| igordcard | cathy_, and I matched all udp traffic going to 8.8.8.8, so I did a UDP iperf to 8.8.8.8 at my client VM and expected traffic to reach SF1, but it didn't | 17:37 |
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| igordcard | cathy_, no, it should at least receive traffic right? being capable of forwarding it would be my second test | 17:37 |
| cathy_ | igordcard: maybe we can discuss and debug this offline? Shoot us an email? OK with you? | 17:38 |
| igordcard | cathy_, sure! | 17:38 |
| vikram | igordcard, cathy_: I feel a detailed documentation about installation and testing would be useful | 17:38 |
| igordcard | vikram, +1 I can post my current cumbersome instructions to the wiki if you want | 17:38 |
| vikram | igordcard: Great.. | 17:39 |
| vikram | igordcard: We can update the devrefs as well | 17:39 |
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| LouisF | igordcard: please do that | 17:39 |
| igordcard | thanks to pcarver for all the feedback | 17:39 |
| vikram | igordcard: IMO, updating existing devref doc for this would be useful | 17:39 |
| vikram | igordcard: or we can add a separate one illustrating test/installation nits | 17:41 |
| igordcard | vikram, maybe, but the instructions I have are only relevant before merge... | 17:41 |
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| pcarver | vikram: I think we need to update the installation devref, but I'm not sure we want to do that with the intermediate procedure that will go away once changes merge | 17:41 |
| cathy_ | igordcard: thanks. could you post it on the SFC wik link and we will add ours? | 17:41 |
| mohankumar | pcarver: IMO After merge will be good | 17:41 |
| vikram | pcarver, cathy_: i am okay with wiki as well | 17:42 |
| igordcard | after merge it should literally be: git clone devstack; append networking-sfc plugin line to local.conf | 17:42 |
| cathy_ | let me find the link and post it here | 17:42 |
| LouisF | igordcard: +100 | 17:42 |
| igordcard | cathy_, yeah | 17:42 |
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| vikram | igordcard: I was mostly interested on the test process | 17:42 |
| cathy_ | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/ServiceInsertionAndChaining | 17:42 |
| cathy_ | vikram: we will post the testing process | 17:43 |
| vikram | igordcard: For diff scenarios's, may be single / multiple node deployment | 17:43 |
| vikram | cathy_: Great! | 17:43 |
| igordcard | vikram, yes, I too am interested, very much, on the test process, as so far I haven't been able to have the right OF flows | 17:43 |
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| cathy_ | igordcard: we will post the testing process | 17:43 |
| igordcard | cathy_, LouisF, thank you | 17:44 |
| vikram | igordcard: don't worry till cathy_ is there :-) | 17:44 |
| cathy_ | now I would like to discuss the Neutron branch the SFC codes base on. | 17:44 |
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| cathy_ | currently our codes are based on the master branch and we found that the functionality gets broken due to new changes on the master branch. This is slowed down our testing work. So we think we will rebase our code to a stable master branch label. Neutron M-1 cut is end of this week. So if there is a label for that cut, we will rebase our codes to that M-1 label | 17:47 |
| mohankumar | cathy_ : sounds good ! | 17:48 |
| cathy_ | does anyone know whether there is such a M-1 label? | 17:49 |
| johnsom | https://github.com/openstack/neutron/releases | 17:49 |
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| cathy_ | I have sent email to Kyle on that and hopefully there is such a label | 17:49 |
| johnsom | 8.0.0.0b1 is M1 I think | 17:49 |
| cathy_ | johnsom: great. Thanks for the info! | 17:50 |
| Prithiv | yes | 17:50 |
| Prithiv | https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/mitaka-1 | 17:50 |
| cathy_ | cool | 17:50 |
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| cathy_ | Prithiv: thanks! | 17:51 |
| mohankumar | cathy_ : so we not incorporate any master changes after M-1 ? | 17:51 |
| cathy_ | no, we will incorporate master changes later | 17:52 |
| mohankumar | cathy_ : okay | 17:53 |
| cathy_ | after we get the testing completed without much interference and then get our first patches merged to remove the dependency pain and the installation pain | 17:53 |
| igordcard | cathy_, so, will the code be merged after or before M1 rebase? | 17:53 |
| cathy_ | after M1 rebase | 17:54 |
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| cathy_ | After rebase we will continue our testing and if all test cases passed, I will approve the merge and then we can start the bug filing process for any more issues we found, then we will rebase to incorporate changes on master and get ready for release. make sense to everyone? | 17:55 |
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| mohankumar | cathy_ +1 | 17:56 |
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| pcarver | cathy_ +1 | 17:57 |
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| igordcard | cathy_, yes | 17:57 |
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| LouisF | cathy_: +1 | 17:57 |
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| vikram | cathy_:+1 | 17:59 |
| cathy_ | Ok, time is up. Let's work hard together on the testing and "bug fixes"(we will not officially file bugs, but will keep a copy of the problems found and fix them), and get the codes ready. Also post comments if you have more. | 17:59 |
| LouisF | bye | 17:59 |
| s3wong | bye | 18:00 |
| cathy_ | bye now. | 18:00 |
| vikram | bye | 18:00 |
| igordcard | bye | 18:00 |
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| cathy_ | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 3 18:00:21 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2015/service_chaining.2015-12-03-17.00.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2015/service_chaining.2015-12-03-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2015/service_chaining.2015-12-03-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
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