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| flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, ivasilevskaya, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k | 14:01 |
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| flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishekk, bunting | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | #startmeeting Glance | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 19 14:01:14 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flaper87. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:01 | |
| dhellmann | o/ | 14:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | welcome everyone | 14:01 |
| mfedosin_ | o/ | 14:01 |
| Jokke_ | o/ | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | hope you've had a great week since our last meeting! | 14:01 |
| mclaren | o/ | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | #topic Agenda | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Agenda (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:01 | |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | That's our agenda for today | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | It's short, feel free to add more topics at the bottom | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | #topic Specs recently approved (flaper87) | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs recently approved (flaper87) (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:02 | |
| flaper87 | we've merged 2 specs since our last meeting | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229878/ | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | That's Glance's trusts support | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin_: and kairat are going to work on that | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | Thank you both! | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | The patches are up already | 14:03 |
| mfedosin_ | welcome :) | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | and those can be reviewed | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | Remember this should not impact API v1 | 14:03 |
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| flaper87 | That was discussed last week | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | This is a v2 only change | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183363/ | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | That's a cinder driver for glance_store | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | The proposal is detailed enough to undersand how this would work | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | I believe the code for this is up already as well | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | and I'm quite excited about it (hope you're as well) | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | this has been a long standing request | 14:04 |
| Jokke_ | ++ | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | Zhi Yan started the work there | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | and I'm happy that someone is taking this over | 14:04 |
| Jokke_ | it has been lingering too long in a state that it's not really usable | 14:04 |
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| flaper87 | and that we now have os-brick to implement this properly | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | There are some bits that could be improved in the future (oslo-rootwrap) but lets not get stuck there for now | 14:05 |
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| flaper87 | We'll have to sync with cinder folks for this and I'd like to thank all the cinder folks that provided reviews there | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | I'll send an email to -dev about this | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | We could use extra reviews from them there | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | anyway, moving on | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | #topic Recent releases (flaper87) | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Recent releases (flaper87) (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:06 | |
| flaper87 | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/python-glanceclient/#id1 | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | That's glanceclient 1.2.0 | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | The release contains quite some enhancements and it also contains a patch required for the work mfedosin_ and sudipto are doing in Nova | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | (version listing) | 14:07 |
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| flaper87 | #link https://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-glanceclient/0.17.3 | 14:07 |
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| bunting | o/ | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | That's a 0.17.3 release for our stable branches | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | it contains mostly bugfixes and it caps the required requests version | 14:07 |
| Jokke_ | stable/kilo to be exact | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | that fixes an issue that was breaking the gate as well | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | Jokke_: ++ | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | Jokke_: am I missing something in this topic? | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | also, thanks to Jokke_ for leading the releases | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | awesome job! | 14:08 |
| Jokke_ | I think that's it ... haven't got anyone yet coming to kill us so might be that we didn't break anything tis time around | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | great! | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | Keep an eye on gates and mailing list in case something breaks | 14:09 |
| Jokke_ | ++ | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | if something breaks, before engaging, remember to give that person coffee and muffins to help with the situation | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | and gummybears | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | those always work | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | at least with me | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | anyway, Jokke_ thanks again | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | moving on | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | #topic Glance Bugs/Review squash (flaper87) | 14:10 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Glance Bugs/Review squash (flaper87) (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:10 | |
| * nikhil sneaks in | 14:10 | |
| flaper87 | Last week we mentioned doing a REview/bug squash day | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | I sent an email to te mailing list | 14:10 |
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| flaper87 | (I can get the link, sorry I don't have it handy) | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | and the link contained a doodle poll to pick a day between Tomorrow and next monday | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | Most of the folks voted for next monday so, the review/bug squash day will be on Monday November 23rd | 14:11 |
| Jokke_ | #link http://doodle.com/poll/mt7hwswtmcvmetdn | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | I'll work on an etherpad that we can go through | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | Jokke_: danke | 14:11 |
| sabari | *finally makes it to a meeting* | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | sabari: <3 | 14:11 |
| sabari | :) | 14:11 |
| * flaper87 hugs sabari and gives him a cup of coffee | 14:11 | |
| sabari | *thanks I sure need a coffee now* | 14:12 |
| sabari | :D | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | On monday, each one will work in his/her TZ (obviously) | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | The goal is to go through a list of bugs and reviews to triage/review them | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | You can pick whatever you prefer but I'd recommend having a balance between them | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | Especially if you're in the glance bug team | 14:12 |
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| flaper87 | if you don't have it already | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | Here's the link to the glance dashboard | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | #link https://bitly.com/glance-dashboard | 14:13 |
| Jokke_ | and please do not set priority (apart from wishlist) unless you can actually confirm the bug | 14:13 |
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| flaper87 | I normally update it to reflect latest changes in our process. Last change was to include a priorities section | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | Jokke_: ++ | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | ok, any questions? doubts? | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | suggestions? | 14:14 |
| mclaren | ah so it includes the priorities ones now - nice | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | rage? | 14:14 |
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| flaper87 | mclaren: :) | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | speaking of which, for those to be included, the review needs to have a tag | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | MitakaPriority | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | That in the commit message | 14:15 |
| sabari | ^ I was about to ask that :) | 14:15 |
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| flaper87 | I went with that because the topic gets overridden when ppl work in branches | 14:15 |
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| * flaper87 is sooooo looking forward to have hashtags in gerrit | 14:15 | |
| flaper87 | That way I can start tweeting on gerrit properly | 14:15 |
| * flaper87 ducks | 14:15 | |
| flaper87 | jokes apart, that'll be super useful for this | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | for now, if you see a review that is part of the priorities list, require the committer to apply: MitakaPriority | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | in the commit message | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | example | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197388/ | 14:16 |
| mfedosin_ | are trusts commits affected? | 14:16 |
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| flaper87 | mfedosin_: nope | 14:17 |
| flaper87 | I guess, for mitaka, it'll be mostly image import process | 14:17 |
| mfedosin | what about our commits in Nova? | 14:17 |
| flaper87 | and nova stuff that is required in the client/server | 14:17 |
| mfedosin | I think the flag is not required there as well | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | Those need to be communicated manually, I guess | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | oh no | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | this is glance only | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | the commits in nova fall into nova's process | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | ok, moving on unless there are further questions | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | #topic Review Bugs | 14:19 |
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| flaper87 | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1447322 (abhishekk) | 14:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1447322 in Glance "Attempting to reactivate a queued image returns a 403" [Undecided,New] | 14:19 |
| abhishekk | hi, this is related to Attempting to reactivate a queued image returns a 403 | 14:19 |
| abhishekk | what is appropriate return code 400 or 409? | 14:20 |
| flaper87 | abhishekk: have we talked to the API-WG about this? | 14:20 |
| abhishekk | flaper87: not sure | 14:20 |
| flaper87 | abhishekk: lets do that, then | 14:20 |
| abhishekk | flaper87: ok | 14:21 |
| flaper87 | I'd recommend joining their IRC channel and bring this up there too | 14:21 |
| nikhil | actually we did | 14:21 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: oh, awesome | 14:21 |
| nikhil | when this was first implemented | 14:21 |
| nikhil | and had a big rants from both sides | 14:21 |
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| nikhil | the thing is we are working on the "status" of an image | 14:21 |
| nikhil | it's an internal entity to the project that has been given API access | 14:22 |
| flaper87 | mmh, unfortunately, I see this as a breaking change anyway | 14:22 |
| nikhil | so it's not a resource | 14:22 |
| flaper87 | we'd be changing the way we respond and that's considered a breaking change | 14:22 |
| Jokke_ | I think 400 or 403 would be the correct on at that abhishekk | 14:22 |
| nikhil | so, reactivating is a forbidden operation on non-approved states | 14:22 |
| nikhil | Jokke_: I disagree | 14:22 |
| flaper87 | makes sense to me | 14:23 |
| abhishekk | nikhil: thanks for the update | 14:23 |
| abhishekk | so we can mark this bug as wont' fix | 14:23 |
| nikhil | oops, I read it as 409 | 14:23 |
| nikhil | Jokke_: sorry | 14:23 |
| * flaper87 gives nikhil the weekly memory badge | 14:23 | |
| nikhil | :P | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | I guess we can mark this as invalid | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: want the honors ? | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | you have more context | 14:24 |
| Jokke_ | but yeah if the current is something else than 500, won't fix is probably the apropriate thing to do :( | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | Jokke_: won't fix ++ | 14:24 |
| nikhil | Jokke_: but I don't think 400 is applicable | 14:24 |
| nikhil | flaper87: surely :) | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: coolio | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | #link 'show' method for 'members' is not implemented in v1 api https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/api/v1/router.py#L91 (mfedosin) | 14:25 |
| mclaren | what do you get if you try to change the status of an image currently? (eg via v1) does anyone know? | 14:25 |
| Jokke_ | nikhil: yeah it's not perhaps really the right one as we do understand the request we're just not willing to fulfil it | 14:25 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: ? | 14:25 |
| mfedosin | it's a strange thing we found out today | 14:25 |
| flaper87 | mmh, I think the same v1 policy applies here | 14:26 |
| flaper87 | I'd rather not implement it | 14:26 |
| nikhil | Jokke_: yeah.. | 14:26 |
| flaper87 | and request people to move to v2 if they really needed | 14:26 |
| mfedosin | currently in v1 api it's stated that there is 'show' method for members | 14:26 |
| mfedosin | so, yeah. it was my question | 14:26 |
| mfedosin | should we implement it, because it's required in v1 api | 14:27 |
| mfedosin | ? | 14:27 |
| flaper87 | apparently no one is using it since it's not implemented and not reported | 14:27 |
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| flaper87 | what do you mean w/ it's required? | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | flaper87: ++ | 14:27 |
| Jokke_ | mfedosin: where about? not in the api ref at least http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-image-v1.html | 14:27 |
| mfedosin | (I got it from customers, which use Grizzly) | 14:27 |
| nikhil | mclaren: I will check | 14:27 |
| flaper87 | jeeez, grizzly | 14:28 |
| flaper87 | at least it's not essex *cough* mclaren *cough* | 14:28 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:28 |
| mclaren | nikhil: HTTPForbidden I think | 14:28 |
| mfedosin | GET /v1/images/​{image_id}​ Show image details and image binary | 14:29 |
| mclaren | so 403 also | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: what error is it throwing now? | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: erm, lets talk about that after the meeting, pls :) | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | we've moved on | 14:29 |
| mfedosin | now there is 405 error | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | ... to another topic | 14:29 |
| mfedosin | okay, let's not implement it | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: ok, I guess it can stay like that | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | unless someone disagrees | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | like *STRONGLY* disagrees | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:30 |
| Jokke_ | It's funny that we don't have it, but I'm in favor keeping it that way :P | 14:30 |
| nikhil | mclaren: confirmed in the code, it's what you said so, 403 | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | ok, so, lets keep it that way | 14:30 |
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| flaper87 | mfedosin: it'd be cool if you could file a bug and then mark it as won't fix | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | just to keep a record/reference for future reporters | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: can you do that? Otherwise I'll do it | 14:31 |
| mfedosin | flaper87: I will do | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | awesome | 14:32 |
| flaper87 | ok, there are no other topics so, open discussion | 14:32 |
| flaper87 | #topic Open Discussion | 14:32 |
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| flaper87 | 3... 2... 1... GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | 14:32 |
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| Jokke_ | so forgot one thing around bug day | 14:32 |
| * rosmaita is dying with anticipation | 14:33 | |
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| nikhil | flaper87: I got feedback on the import stuff from IBM groups | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: lol | 14:33 |
| Jokke_ | Please tag the bugs you think would fit to the https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranch Appropriate Fixes description with liberty-backport-potential | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | Jokke_: I think we're missing a chapter about bug triage in our how to contribute guidelines | 14:34 |
| flaper87 | I wrote the blueprints part | 14:34 |
| flaper87 | who wants to help with the bug part of it? | 14:34 |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234653/ | 14:35 |
| flaper87 | that's the blueprints guideline | 14:35 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: AWESOME! | 14:35 |
| Jokke_ | we'll get to those either at Monday or later during the week and see if they fit to picture with the stable-maint group :) | 14:35 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: is that something you can report on the spec? | 14:35 |
| mclaren | nikhil: I'm interested | 14:35 |
| flaper87 | There are still some critical discussions happening there | 14:35 |
| Jokke_ | nikhil: shoot | 14:35 |
| nikhil | surely, I will update the spec | 14:35 |
| nikhil | oops, comment * | 14:35 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: AWESOME | 14:35 |
| flaper87 | feel free to share here but I'd love to have that on the spec as well | 14:35 |
| flaper87 | just to make sure other folks not attending the meeting can read it | 14:36 |
| mclaren | I made a spec update I'd love some feedback on | 14:36 |
| flaper87 | I'll read | 14:36 |
| nikhil | ack | 14:36 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: did you address comments from the last PS? | 14:36 |
| flaper87 | s/last/previous/ | 14:36 |
| nikhil | so, there are different groups and people want a few common things | 14:36 |
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| mclaren | flaper87: I'm wondering if it's possible to do something simpler -- without the persistent bikeshed | 14:37 |
| nikhil | 1) upload using direct-url (copy-from in v1, in v2 it's a bit icky but import does that) | 14:37 |
| mclaren | comment is around line 213 | 14:38 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: is that your update to the spec? | 14:38 |
| flaper87 | I'll read and comment | 14:38 |
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| flaper87 | mclaren: ah so, you just commented, ok | 14:39 |
| mclaren | yes, thanks. Feel free to beat me up if its horrendous | 14:39 |
| * flaper87 takes his baseball bat | 14:39 | |
| mclaren | hang on, no bats! | 14:39 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: thanks for trying to think of simpler ways to do this | 14:39 |
| * Jokke_ hands over box of 6" nails and hammer to flaper87 | 14:39 | |
| nikhil | 2) OVA like support | 14:39 |
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| mclaren | nikhil: I think a number of people are interested in 'copy-from' type support/will be very interestd when v1 goes away. | 14:40 |
| flaper87 | yeah | 14:40 |
| flaper87 | and #2 is interesting as we've had feedback fro just one group so far | 14:40 |
| nikhil | https://imgur.com/gallery/2YZjYLk | 14:40 |
| flaper87 | it's good to know that there's more interest | 14:40 |
| flaper87 | we still have a spec up for review | 14:40 |
| flaper87 | wonder if it's been updated | 14:40 |
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| nikhil | I guess not | 14:41 |
| Jokke_ | nikhil: I commented that to spec already, but I'm bit afraid ... There was huge pressure from Inter ref that ova stuff just before release (just like the cycle before) and haven't heard anything back since the exclusion due to the freeze and this planning | 14:41 |
| nikhil | I think that not being in priorities made then not interested | 14:41 |
| nikhil | yet | 14:41 |
| mclaren | *hopefully* the import spec will facilitate OVA stuff | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | mclaren: ++ | 14:41 |
| flaper87 | yeah | 14:41 |
| flaper87 | ah, since it's open discussion | 14:41 |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245897/ | 14:42 |
| flaper87 | I've applied those 2 tags to glance | 14:42 |
| flaper87 | The patches haven't merged BUT I'd love some +1s from other folks in the team | 14:42 |
| bunting | There is also a spec-lite about moving metadefs into sub-commands | 14:42 |
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| bunting | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-glanceclient/+bug/1489534 | 14:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1489534 in python-glanceclient "Move metadef commands to sub-commands" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Niall Bunting (niall-bunting) | 14:42 |
| Jokke_ | mclaren: That's why I'm extremely dissapointed that they haven't been involved in any ways in this discussion | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | Jokke_: ++ | 14:42 |
| nikhil | yeah, I am not sure. I have only gotted the name OVA as feedback but I will ask more. If it's full fledged OVA then it's unlikely to have as image. we nees artifacts for that or no? what do you all think? | 14:42 |
| flaper87 | I, obviously, left rolling-upgrades as the only thing that can roll is glance down a hill when trying to do rolling upgrades | 14:42 |
| Jokke_ | I don't want to end up to situation where it becomes urgent week before freeze again | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | left rolling-upgrades out* | 14:43 |
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| flaper87 | Jokke_: ++ | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | Again, we've a priorities list to focus on, other things will have to be pushed by the interested parties | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | and those things will be evaluated accordingly | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | in a case-by-case basis | 14:43 |
| nikhil | mclaren: ha, I created a tag called lite-spec for the store :P | 14:43 |
| nikhil | https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance-store/+bugs?field.tag=lite-spec | 14:44 |
| nikhil | I will change it to spec-lite, don't worry | 14:44 |
| nikhil | just fyi | 14:44 |
| flaper87 | man, the import spec has 89 comments | 14:44 |
| flaper87 | ok | 14:45 |
| flaper87 | anything else we want to talk about? | 14:45 |
| mfedosin | yup | 14:45 |
| flaper87 | otherwise, we can call it a meeting | 14:45 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: go | 14:45 |
| nikhil | Jokke_: yeah, I think we should avoid that impl for Mitaka if we do decide to impl import related changes | 14:45 |
| mfedosin | 2 things | 14:45 |
| mfedosin | first one about glare api version | 14:45 |
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| mfedosin | should it be 0.1 while it's in experimental state? | 14:46 |
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| mfedosin | and 1.0 when it's stable | 14:46 |
| Jokke_ | mfedosin: sounds reasonable | 14:46 |
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| mfedosin | or it can be 1.0 from the beginning | 14:46 |
| mfedosin | I would prefer 0.1 | 14:46 |
| mfedosin | what do you think? | 14:46 |
| Jokke_ | mfedosin: is the plan to release it as experimental still in M? | 14:47 |
| mclaren | no reason not to go with 0.1? | 14:47 |
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| flaper87 | 0.1 sounds good | 14:47 |
| Jokke_ | it's easy to bump at any point of the cycle anyways | 14:47 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: do we already have patches for that split ? | 14:47 |
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| flaper87 | ops | 14:47 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: ^ | 14:47 |
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| mfedosin | kairat made a patch that removes current implementation | 14:47 |
| mfedosin | I have to write a spec for that | 14:48 |
| flaper87 | mmh, why removing it and not moving it ? | 14:48 |
| mfedosin | good question :) | 14:48 |
| flaper87 | I saw the patch and I was confused | 14:48 |
| nikhil | I thought we decided to not remove in Monday's meeting | 14:48 |
| flaper87 | I'd rather have it moved | 14:48 |
| mclaren | what's the latest with glare? Is it intended to be mainly for other services storing things or will it be a full public api in time? (I'm a bit out of touch there, sorry) | 14:48 |
| Jokke_ | flaper87: because moving to versionedObject requires pretty much full rewrite :( | 14:48 |
| mfedosin | I want to get the answer as you | 14:48 |
| flaper87 | and that was my feeling from the summit to | 14:48 |
| nikhil | moving makes sense, removing and adding is confusing | 14:48 |
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| flaper87 | Jokke_: sure but we should move it to the glare package and then they can remove the parts that need to be removed | 14:48 |
| flaper87 | I guess | 14:49 |
| flaper87 | I just don't want to loose history | 14:49 |
| nikhil | mclaren: semi-public api | 14:49 |
| flaper87 | as in removing everything and then having everything added again | 14:49 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: ++ on moving | 14:49 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: do you have a link to the review? | 14:49 |
| Jokke_ | flaper87: I hear ya, that was my first question as well :D | 14:49 |
| flaper87 | I remember seeing it | 14:49 |
| mfedosin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241265/ | 14:49 |
| mfedosin | this one | 14:50 |
| nikhil | we need to wait on Alex then | 14:50 |
| mfedosin | he's running around | 14:50 |
| mfedosin | but I can't catch him :) | 14:50 |
| mfedosin | to talk about it | 14:50 |
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| flaper87 | there, -2'd | 14:51 |
| mfedosin | I will begin with 'moving' spec | 14:51 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:51 |
| Jokke_ | mfedosin: setup tripwire | 14:51 |
| nikhil | flaper87: I agree that we don't need a mini-summit however, it would be good to get a early video conf for such discussions | 14:51 |
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| flaper87 | nikhil: yeah, that we'll have. We need that for the image import part too | 14:51 |
| nikhil | for 1. import 2. glare | 14:51 |
| nikhil | cool | 14:51 |
| flaper87 | I think I forgot to mention this in my summary | 14:51 |
| flaper87 | we actually talked about a video conf at some point | 14:51 |
| flaper87 | sorry about that | 14:52 |
| flaper87 | and thanks for bringing this up | 14:52 |
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| mfedosin | another question is about .mailmap | 14:53 |
| mfedosin | do we need it in our repo? | 14:53 |
| Jokke_ | is there any reason to keep that? | 14:53 |
| mfedosin | https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/.mailmap | 14:53 |
| nikhil | it was used earlier | 14:53 |
| flaper87 | I don't really care, I know there was a reason to have it | 14:53 |
| flaper87 | we can sync with infra about this | 14:53 |
| nikhil | and I doubt if anyone cares now | 14:53 |
| Jokke_ | nikhil: is there, not was there :P | 14:53 |
| flaper87 | and get a feeling of what other folks are doing | 14:53 |
| flaper87 | but I'd be all for removing it | 14:53 |
| Jokke_ | flaper87: ++ | 14:53 |
| flaper87 | lsat update was 2014 | 14:53 |
| nikhil | Jokke_: dark ages :) | 14:54 |
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| mfedosin | .mailmap exists in all repos, like Nova, Keystone etc | 14:54 |
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| mfedosin | and all of them outdated | 14:54 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: have those been updated? | 14:54 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:54 |
| Jokke_ | can we be for once community leader if it's not used by anything anymore? | 14:54 |
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| mfedosin | so we can begin with ML message | 14:54 |
| mfedosin | create a bug | 14:54 |
| Jokke_ | ++ | 14:55 |
| mfedosin | and remove it from all repos | 14:55 |
| flaper87 | Jokke_: I don't mind as long as infra gives ok | 14:55 |
| flaper87 | I don't think it's being used elsewhere BUT assume makes an #!$@#$ between U and ME | 14:55 |
| Jokke_ | flaper87: yeah, as long as it's not used | 14:55 |
| flaper87 | ;) | 14:55 |
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| nikhil | I think gerrit takes care of things so, not really useful | 14:55 |
| mfedosin | I will send a message today if you don't mind :) | 14:55 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: go for it | 14:55 |
| Jokke_ | mfedosin: go for it | 14:55 |
| flaper87 | and thanks for doing that | 14:55 |
| Jokke_ | tag [infra] | 14:56 |
| flaper87 | Jokke_: OUT OF MY MIND | 14:56 |
| flaper87 | jeeez | 14:56 |
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| mfedosin | :D | 14:56 |
| Jokke_ | :D | 14:56 |
| * flaper87 can't have privacy anymore | 14:56 | |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:56 |
| flaper87 | ok, we're running out of time | 14:56 |
| Jokke_ | any last wishes? | 14:56 |
| flaper87 | world peace ? | 14:57 |
| nikhil | flaper87: one quick clarification. is there a reason someone shouldn't propose support for hierarchal multi-tenancy support? | 14:57 |
| nikhil | though, with keystone still cleaning up it wouldn't be until N | 14:57 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: oh mmh, I don't think there is. It depends on what will be required to have that support, I guess | 14:57 |
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| flaper87 | nikhil: thought so | 14:57 |
| flaper87 | an early spec would be cool anyway | 14:58 |
| flaper87 | it gives time to clearing things up | 14:58 |
| nikhil | ok, thanks. ack. | 14:58 |
| flaper87 | and for better discussions | 14:58 |
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| flaper87 | coolio | 14:58 |
| flaper87 | That's all folks! | 14:58 |
| flaper87 | thanks for attending | 14:58 |
| mclaren | thanks | 14:58 |
| Jokke_ | Thanks all | 14:58 |
| mfedosin | thanks! | 14:58 |
| flaper87 | have a great day, weekend and week until our next meeting | 14:58 |
| abhishekk | thank you | 14:58 |
| flaper87 | Break glance and blame mclaren | 14:58 |
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| Jokke_ | Don't forget Monday! | 14:58 |
| flaper87 | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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| TravT | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 19 15:00:27 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is TravT. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search' | 15:00 |
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| TravT | o/ | 15:01 |
| TravT | we'll give a few minutes for people join. | 15:01 |
| yingjun | :) | 15:01 |
| lakshmiS | o/ | 15:01 |
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| TravT | yingjun: what time is it for you? | 15:02 |
| yingjun | 23:00 | 15:02 |
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| TravT | i know sjmc7 is on his way | 15:03 |
| yingjun | after the meeting will go to sleep :) | 15:03 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 15:03 |
| TravT | how's it going rosmaita? | 15:04 |
| rosmaita | ok | 15:04 |
| rosmaita | no action, though | 15:04 |
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| TravT | well, here's the agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda | 15:04 |
| sjmc7 | morning, sorry i’m late | 15:04 |
| TravT | morning sjmc7 | 15:05 |
| TravT | #topic general updates | 15:05 |
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| TravT | Just to get it logged here as FYI for everybody | 15:05 |
| TravT | we spent nearly two hours doing BP prioritization in the room on Tuesday | 15:05 |
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| TravT | got through most of the list | 15:05 |
| TravT | in giving initial priorities | 15:05 |
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| TravT | if there are any BPs that have a priority you disagree with, please mention it | 15:06 |
| TravT | #topic client repo merged | 15:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "client repo merged (Meeting topic: openstack search)" | 15:07 | |
| sjmc7 | thanks for the help with that Li, if you’re here | 15:08 |
| TravT | #link https://github.com/openstack/python-searchlightclient | 15:08 |
| yingjun | just saw that, i’m working on the initial commit | 15:08 |
| TravT | after some brief discussion, we thought it would be best for there to be a separate repo | 15:08 |
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| TravT | sjmc7 had some packaging concerns otherwsie | 15:08 |
| david-lyle | o/ | 15:08 |
| TravT | o/ | 15:08 |
| sjmc7 | yingjun add me as a reviewer and i’ll take a look; the first commit will need enough to pass the CI jobs | 15:08 |
| yingjun | sjmc7, ok | 15:09 |
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| TravT | yingjun sounds great. thanks for getting that started | 15:09 |
| sjmc7 | but appreciate the help getting it created | 15:09 |
| TravT | i do think we should have some more design discussion on all the commands that should be supported | 15:10 |
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| TravT | obviously, we can get a couple base ones going. | 15:10 |
| TravT | but then we should really think through what we can do to make it easy to use... maybe with some common queries. | 15:11 |
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| TravT | #topic spec repo started | 15:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "spec repo started (Meeting topic: openstack search)" | 15:12 | |
| TravT | #link https://github.com/openstack/searchlight-specs | 15:12 |
| TravT | just FYI | 15:12 |
| TravT | that is merged in | 15:12 |
| TravT | we have a few to discuss (later in the meeting) | 15:12 |
| TravT | #topic Reno release notes | 15:13 |
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| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247170/ | 15:13 |
| TravT | I put up one of the base patches | 15:13 |
| TravT | but we will need to start adding release notes | 15:13 |
| TravT | The guidelines are here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247170/3/doc/source/feature-requests-bugs.rst | 15:14 |
| TravT | if you have feedback on those guidelines please provide it | 15:14 |
| TravT | looks like I already have one comment to address | 15:14 |
| TravT | #topic cinder plugin update | 15:14 |
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| TravT | we don't have duncanT on here, but i do have an update from him and from going to the cinder meeting yesterday | 15:15 |
| TravT | he has the initial plugin done. | 15:15 |
| TravT | but right now it works likes the nova one and has to make callbacks for more data | 15:15 |
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| sjmc7 | boo | 15:16 |
| TravT | so, he proposed to the cinder team that they improve the notification event data so we can avoid that | 15:16 |
| TravT | and the discussion went really well | 15:16 |
| TravT | so, he's proposing patches to cinder to improve the notification data | 15:17 |
| TravT | and he'll modify his SL plugin to take advantage of that | 15:17 |
| sjmc7 | nice. chances of that getting into mitaka? | 15:17 |
| TravT | probably pretty high, i think. | 15:17 |
| TravT | it helps that he's a core on cinder | 15:17 |
| TravT | maybe we should twist his arm and have him submit the patch based on API callbacks first | 15:18 |
| TravT | and then update when the notifications are in | 15:18 |
| TravT | what do you think? | 15:18 |
| lakshmiS_ | you mean add a second patch for notifications? | 15:19 |
| TravT | yeah, get a SL plugin as-is with callbacks. | 15:19 |
| TravT | And then update it once the notifications in cinder are improved | 15:19 |
| lakshmiS_ | i probably have to do similar to swift ;) | 15:19 |
| sjmc7 | i’d be ok with that | 15:19 |
| sjmc7 | swift i don’t think we can | 15:19 |
| sjmc7 | but that can be a separate discussion | 15:20 |
| TravT | it would actually also give us some code for reference if somebody wants to deploy searchlight against liberty cinder | 15:20 |
| TravT | ok, i'll mention this to duncan | 15:20 |
| TravT | and see if he's agreeable | 15:20 |
| TravT | #topic Swift integration updates | 15:21 |
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| lakshmiS_ | I think its getting to a good shape. Will have a patch for review tomorrow. | 15:22 |
| lakshmiS_ | obviously without notifications | 15:22 |
| TravT | so this is for initial indexing? | 15:22 |
| lakshmiS_ | yes | 15:22 |
| TravT | cool | 15:22 |
| sjmc7 | i’ve got middleware that works for swift | 15:22 |
| sjmc7 | i need to tidy it up a bit | 15:22 |
| sjmc7 | and propose it to swift, though i think they will say no to it being in-tree | 15:23 |
| sjmc7 | then decide where it should live | 15:23 |
| lakshmiS_ | yeah we can add notifications as another patch once notifications land in swift(whenever that happens) | 15:23 |
| TravT | sjmc7: so plug it in to the deploy pipeline and get oslo notifications? | 15:23 |
| sjmc7 | right | 15:23 |
| TravT | well, this is pretty exciting! | 15:24 |
| TravT | one thing i'm highly interested in, is what this may mean for an improved swift UI in horizon | 15:24 |
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| TravT | i also will need to look at the data model you've got lakshmiS_ to see how that might affect the current UI I'm on. | 15:25 |
| TravT | did you use nesting, parents, etc? | 15:25 |
| lakshmiS_ | not much | 15:26 |
| lakshmiS_ | are you concerned about complex model? | 15:26 |
| TravT | not sure if concerned is quite the right term... | 15:27 |
| TravT | just want to make sure it is the right model | 15:27 |
| lakshmiS_ | oh ok | 15:27 |
| TravT | which i'm sure you've put some good thought into | 15:27 |
| TravT | we'll just have to see | 15:27 |
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| TravT | but what might be really helpful is that once we have it, i ensure that it can somewhat demo via the search panel | 15:28 |
| TravT | then could record a quick youtube to show the swift team | 15:28 |
| lakshmiS_ | sure | 15:28 |
| * TravT needs to get back to coding on that panel | 15:28 | |
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| TravT | i think anytime you have something concrete to interact with, it helps move the conversation along | 15:29 |
| TravT | demonstrate the potential value | 15:29 |
| lakshmiS_ | yeah maybe they will accept our notification patch after that... | 15:29 |
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| TravT | maybe i'll prototype out a new swift specific panel with search, depending on the data structure | 15:30 |
| TravT | ok, anything else to discuss on swift? | 15:31 |
| TravT | i don't see briancline or daddyjoseph97 on here | 15:31 |
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| lakshmiS_ | i will add them as reviewers | 15:31 |
| TravT | sounds good | 15:31 |
| TravT | #topic openstack tag assertions | 15:32 |
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| TravT | A message went out that we need to assert tags for the project | 15:32 |
| TravT | since moving to the big tent, tags are the way people are supposed to be able to tell various characteristics about a project | 15:33 |
| TravT | i didn't have time to run through them prior to this meeting | 15:33 |
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| TravT | but they are all listed here: http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/index.html | 15:33 |
| TravT | we've already got the Release Management Tags applied | 15:34 |
| TravT | the ones under "Project Assertions Tags" are things we'd need to discuss | 15:35 |
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| sjmc7 | hmm :) | 15:35 |
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| TravT | i don't think we want to assert the feature deprecation yet | 15:36 |
| TravT | that's why we released 0.1 | 15:36 |
| TravT | perhaps that one after the mitaka release | 15:36 |
| TravT | maybe the upgrade one, but i'd still hesitate to add that until end of mitaka | 15:37 |
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| sjmc7 | yes, i think that’d be premature | 15:38 |
| lakshmiS_ | for supporting upgrade we need to look at plugin versions too | 15:38 |
| lakshmiS_ | thats where our data model is | 15:39 |
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| TravT | true | 15:39 |
| TravT | well, i think we need more work on this before asserting more tags for now | 15:40 |
| TravT | sounds like you guys agree | 15:40 |
| sjmc7 | yep | 15:40 |
| lakshmiS_ | yes | 15:40 |
| TravT | rosmaita: david-lyle: yingjun: agree? | 15:40 |
| yingjun | agree | 15:40 |
| david-lyle | yeah | 15:41 |
| TravT | ok. | 15:41 |
| TravT | #topic oslo pools | 15:41 |
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| TravT | so, the background here is that our deployment architect was questioning why we didn't use multiple queues rather than require a new topic for searchlight notifications | 15:42 |
| TravT | and our answer was the oslo only supported that through pools, and pools were apparently broken | 15:43 |
| TravT | lakshmiS_: is that still our answer? | 15:43 |
| lakshmiS_ | yes | 15:43 |
| lakshmiS_ | we need to relook at that again | 15:43 |
| sjmc7 | does oslo know it’s broken? | 15:43 |
| lakshmiS_ | see anything changed since we spoke to ceilometer | 15:43 |
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| dims | sjmc7 unless there's a bug, oslo is clueless :) | 15:44 |
| TravT | ok. | 15:44 |
| sjmc7 | yeah :) we should file a bug with oslo if something’s broken | 15:44 |
| dims | pretty please :) | 15:45 |
| TravT | lakshmiS_: can you give dims a bit more info? | 15:45 |
| * TravT loves how dims always swoops into meetings when oslo is mentioned. | 15:45 | |
| lakshmiS_ | oslo pools was basically not working as expected - for sending message to multiple consumers | 15:45 |
| dims | TravT :) | 15:46 |
| sjmc7 | i can take a look at it again | 15:46 |
| lakshmiS_ | ceilometer and searchlight were both consuming glance info notifications and only one of them would get it(mostly ceilometer) | 15:46 |
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| dims | lakshmiS_ interesting, had not heard that | 15:47 |
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| lakshmiS_ | dims: i can share the discussion we had with ceilometer team with you on that topic | 15:47 |
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| dims | sjmc7 lakshmiS_ yes, please log some details in a bug and add ceilometer and searchlight and oslo.messaging as affected | 15:48 |
| dims | thanks lakshmiS_ | 15:48 |
| TravT | +1 | 15:48 |
| lakshmiS_ | we would love to use the pools back though :) | 15:48 |
| TravT | #action lakshmiS_ to log oslo pools bug | 15:49 |
| TravT | #topic but review and blueprint review | 15:49 |
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| TravT | guess we are having a but review right now | 15:49 |
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| dims | lakshmiS_ should be easy to replicate using our simulator - https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/blob/master/tools/simulator.py | 15:50 |
| lakshmiS_ | thanks dims: | 15:50 |
| TravT | ooohh | 15:50 |
| TravT | that simulator would be great for our tests! | 15:50 |
| dims | TravT : ++ | 15:50 |
| TravT | could add that to our functional tests | 15:50 |
| TravT | #action TravT add BP to pull in simulator for notification testing | 15:51 |
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| TravT | Ok, so there are three spec reviews up right now that all need feedback | 15:52 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/searchlight-specs,n,z | 15:52 |
| TravT | two of them are essential | 15:52 |
| TravT | Spec proposal for allowing searchable admin fields | 15:53 |
| TravT | Zero Downtime Reindexing Proposal | 15:53 |
| TravT | with architectural ramifications | 15:53 |
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| TravT | so, please take a look at them and give feedback | 15:53 |
| TravT | #topic open discussion | 15:54 |
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| TravT | Anything else that people want to discuss? | 15:54 |
| sjmc7 | i’m hungry | 15:54 |
| TravT | do you have waffles? | 15:54 |
| sjmc7 | i.. do not. | 15:54 |
| yingjun | FYI, just upload the very first client base: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247565/ | 15:54 |
| kragniz | I think the new python-searchlightclient repo needs to be added to the governance repo | 15:54 |
| rosmaita | who has waffles? | 15:54 |
| sjmc7 | that was quick yingjun! | 15:54 |
| kragniz | also o/ | 15:54 |
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| sjmc7 | yeah, it does. i’m surprised infra merged it without that. hi kragniz! | 15:55 |
| TravT | kragniz: o/ | 15:55 |
| TravT | (rosmaita perks up) | 15:55 |
| sjmc7 | there are no waffles. | 15:55 |
| * rosmaita is very disappointed | 15:56 | |
| TravT | kragniz: i submitted a governance patch on that | 15:56 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247271/ | 15:56 |
| TravT | also one for spec repo | 15:56 |
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| yingjun | :) sjmc7, please have a look at that, i put it workflow-1 | 15:56 |
| TravT | spec repo got some love | 15:57 |
| sjmc7 | will do | 15:57 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244875/ | 15:57 |
| TravT | but i guess that since we got our repos, i don't know that it is urgent to push those through | 15:57 |
| TravT | however, adding a +1 from you guys might pop it up in visibility | 15:57 |
| TravT | #action sjmc7 to bring waffles to the next meeting | 15:58 |
| sjmc7 | oh, i will | 15:58 |
| TravT | Oh one more thing | 15:58 |
| TravT | m1 is December 3rd | 15:59 |
| sjmc7 | wow, that crept up fast | 15:59 |
| TravT | yeah | 15:59 |
| TravT | sjmc7: i think we will need a release note added for that plugin restructuring patch | 15:59 |
| TravT | allright | 16:00 |
| TravT | thanks everybody | 16:00 |
| TravT | times up | 16:00 |
| rosmaita | bye | 16:00 |
| sjmc7 | bye! | 16:00 |
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| yingjun | bye | 16:00 |
| TravT | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 19 16:00:13 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2015/openstack_search.2015-11-19-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2015/openstack_search.2015-11-19-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2015/openstack_search.2015-11-19-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
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| odyssey4me | #startmeeting OpenStack Ansible Meeting | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 19 16:02:57 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is odyssey4me. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible_meeting' | 16:03 |
| dstanek | o/ | 16:03 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Agenda & rollcall | 16:03 |
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| evrardjp | hello | 16:03 |
| stevelle | hello there | 16:03 |
| ntt | hellp | 16:03 |
| jwagner | o/ | 16:03 |
| bgmccollum | o/ | 16:03 |
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| palendae | o/ | 16:04 |
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| odyssey4me | considering that last week's action items are today's workshop, we'll skip the review of the action items :) | 16:05 |
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| odyssey4me | so | 16:05 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Release Planning and Decisions | 16:05 |
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| odyssey4me | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 16:06 |
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| d34dh0r53 | o/ | 16:06 |
| odyssey4me | Let's start with a quick discussion about Liberty's 12.0.1 release | 16:06 |
| odyssey4me | we've fixed some important bugs, but there are one or two crucial bugs outstanding for reviews | 16:07 |
| odyssey4me | https://review.openstack.org/240560 needs another review | 16:07 |
| odyssey4me | without it, neutron db migrations do not work properly | 16:07 |
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| odyssey4me | and https://review.openstack.org/245704 is also quite crucial | 16:08 |
| evrardjp | it's me or it's not target there? https://launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+milestone/12.0.1 | 16:08 |
| odyssey4me | are there any objections to waiting for those to merge, or are there other patches we need to wait for before tagging 12.0.1 ? | 16:09 |
| evrardjp | they are close to being merged right? | 16:09 |
| evrardjp | I'd be glad if 12.0.1 would be tagged tomorrow | 16:10 |
| odyssey4me | well, the neutron migrations patch needs one more review, then a backport | 16:10 |
| palendae | odyssey4me: That 2nd one looks like it's not passing gate, but has reviews | 16:10 |
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| odyssey4me | yeah, the second one just needs to get passed by Grumpy the Gate | 16:10 |
| evrardjp | odyssey4me: maybe there will be one commit missing | 16:11 |
| evrardjp | the reno thing? | 16:11 |
| evrardjp | isn't it something that has to be committed? | 16:11 |
| evrardjp | (I mean having the text to give to reno to explain what's released in this 12.0.1 version) | 16:12 |
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| odyssey4me | yeah, so we will have to start adding release notes - but it's a little late for 12.0.1 - I'll talk about that a bit later | 16:13 |
| stevelle | I haven't started a review of the neutron db migrations but it is in my queue. Not sure if I will get to it before I go on holiday. | 16:14 |
| stevelle | if that impacts the decision to wait or not | 16:15 |
| odyssey4me | what're the thoughts - if it's not in by tomorrow morning, do we tag regardless or do we wait until it merges? | 16:15 |
| evrardjp | for the gate, it passed in master, and the log mention for the failure a 503 on install pip, which shouldn't be an impact of the xtradbbackup | 16:15 |
| odyssey4me | #startvote Release 12.0.1 tomorrow (yes/no) | 16:16 |
| openstack | Unable to parse vote topic and options. | 16:16 |
| evrardjp | odyssey4me: do you plan to have the neutron db migrations in 12.0.1? | 16:17 |
| evrardjp | it's a long way to tomorrow, so if it can wait, it changes everything, the rest seems easy | 16:17 |
| odyssey4me | #startvote Release 12.0.1 tomorrow, regardless of whether current reviews in progress merge? yes, no | 16:18 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Release 12.0.1 tomorrow, regardless of whether current reviews in progress merge? Valid vote options are yes, no. | 16:18 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 16:18 |
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| evrardjp | #vote NO | 16:18 |
| palendae | #vote no | 16:19 |
| evrardjp | is this case sensitive? | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | I think so. :) | 16:19 |
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| andymccr | #vote yes | 16:19 |
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| palendae | Not sure I see the point of releasing something that's known to be broken | 16:20 |
| andymccr | we do another release in 2 weeks | 16:20 |
| andymccr | so then its fixed | 16:20 |
| bgmccollum | reading the bug, it seems to only be a problem IF lbass is installed...correct? | 16:20 |
| andymccr | then in 2 weeks after that we do another release | 16:20 |
| palendae | So it's broken for 2 weeks? | 16:20 |
| andymccr | thats the point of rolling releases though - when you get into a pattern of "certain patches HAVE to merge before we can release" you start running into weird timelines that are not sustainable | 16:21 |
| andymccr | as a matter of principle - sticking to a set cadence is better. | 16:21 |
| palendae | I don't agree with that, but ok | 16:21 |
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| palendae | Releasing to release when it's not functional seems to be wasteful | 16:21 |
| palendae | I get your point that it's short-ish window to fix it | 16:21 |
| andymccr | i guess since its 12.0.1 its slightly different - we shouldnt have it be non-functional | 16:22 |
| andymccr | so master should alwyas be functional and we just release whatever is ready at that point. and if you had a bug that wasnt fixed you wait 2 weeks. thats how it is. | 16:22 |
| stevelle | if only we had release notes to indicate known bugs by tag | 16:22 |
| palendae | Alright | 16:22 |
| palendae | Well, I don't see more votes so far :) | 16:23 |
| odyssey4me | bgmccollum to answer your question, the effect of not having the patch is that if you re-run the neutron playbook (regardless or enabling or disabling lbaas), the migration task fails | 16:23 |
| bgmccollum | odyssey4me: nod... | 16:23 |
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| bgmccollum | and while it fails the second time...it shouldn't leave the environment in a broken state...even if run...? | 16:24 |
| evrardjp | stevelle: :D | 16:24 |
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| odyssey4me | bgmccollum not a broken state, but you're unable to complete a playbook run for neutron | 16:24 |
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| odyssey4me | ok, we've spent far too much time on this | 16:26 |
| evrardjp | ok then it's a major issue, so it shouldn't be tagged :p | 16:26 |
| evrardjp | postpone tomorrow? | 16:26 |
| evrardjp | :p | 16:26 |
| odyssey4me | we'll see where's it's at in the morning - hopefully we'll have another review on it and it can be back ported | 16:26 |
| odyssey4me | #endvote | 16:26 |
| openstack | Voted on "Release 12.0.1 tomorrow, regardless of whether current reviews in progress merge?" Results are | 16:26 |
| andymccr | you can always do a release outside of the regular cadence once its fixed? | 16:26 |
| openstack | yes (1): andymccr | 16:26 |
| openstack | no (2): palendae, evrardjp | 16:26 |
| odyssey4me | moving along, we need to decide whether to tag the next kilo release | 16:27 |
| odyssey4me | https://launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+milestone/11.2.5 | 16:27 |
| odyssey4me | the heat signals thing will require a sha bump - so it'll have to wait for the next tag | 16:28 |
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| odyssey4me | so it appears to me that kilo is ready to roll, any objections? | 16:29 |
| evrardjp | none | 16:30 |
| odyssey4me | #startvote Release 11.2.5 tomorrow? yes, no | 16:30 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Release 11.2.5 tomorrow? Valid vote options are yes, no. | 16:30 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 16:30 |
| andymccr | lgtm ship it | 16:30 |
| andymccr | #vote yes | 16:30 |
| odyssey4me | #vote yes | 16:32 |
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| d34dh0r53 | #vote yes | 16:33 |
| stevelle | #vote yes | 16:33 |
| odyssey4me | #endvote | 16:34 |
| openstack | Voted on "Release 11.2.5 tomorrow?" Results are | 16:34 |
| openstack | yes (4): d34dh0r53, stevelle, odyssey4me, andymccr | 16:34 |
| odyssey4me | ok, done - moving on | 16:34 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Workshop - Install Guide | 16:35 |
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| odyssey4me | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oa-install-docs | 16:35 |
| odyssey4me | The RPC Documentation team, which also is a major OpenStack documentation contributor, has offered to take on the job of revamping the install guide and helping maintain the documentaiton. | 16:36 |
| odyssey4me | we need to assist with identifying any issues with the current docs, providing information to them about what we'd like to see, and also about things that need to be in the documentation | 16:36 |
| odyssey4me | I've added some of my own thoughts and questions - can we please all spend around 10 minutes doing the same now. | 16:37 |
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| evrardjp | is there anyone from the doc team on the etherpad right now? | 16:54 |
| odyssey4me | evrardjp unfortunately KLevenstein couldn't make it, but we'll revisit it next week once they've had a chance to look through our comments/questions | 16:56 |
| evrardjp | ok | 16:57 |
| evrardjp | 3 minutes remaining? | 16:57 |
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| odyssey4me | ok, so if we could try and put some time aside to think about other changes, that'd be great | 16:57 |
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| odyssey4me | thanks all | 16:58 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Open discussion | 16:58 |
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| odyssey4me | I wanted to raise two more etherpads for input quickly: | 16:58 |
| odyssey4me | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-upgrade-framework | 16:58 |
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| odyssey4me | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-multi-os-support | 16:58 |
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| odyssey4me | also | 16:59 |
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| odyssey4me | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-November/079732.html | 16:59 |
| odyssey4me | if you could all chime in, that'd be great | 16:59 |
| odyssey4me | anything else in the last minute? | 16:59 |
| odyssey4me | ok, thank all for your time! | 17:00 |
| odyssey4me | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| evrardjp | nothing, but we'll have to think about impact of ansible 2 in the future | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 19 17:00:12 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-11-19-16.02.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-11-19-16.02.txt | 17:00 |
| evrardjp | too late | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-11-19-16.02.log.html | 17:00 |
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| ntt | odyssey4me: for multios support, a completely new developer team is needed? Is there a chance to see a support for rhel and derivatives? | 17:00 |
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| cathy_ | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 19 17:00:56 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cathy_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 17:01 |
| cathy_ | hi everyone | 17:01 |
| igordcard | hi cathy_ | 17:01 |
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| mohankumar | hi cathy_ | 17:01 |
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| ramanjaneya_ | Hi | 17:01 |
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| johnsom | o/ | 17:02 |
| LouisF | hi | 17:02 |
| cathy_ | OK, let's start | 17:03 |
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| s3wong | hello | 17:03 |
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| cathy_ | I put the topics in the meeting wiki, I will start from the first one | 17:03 |
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| cathy_ | #topic Follow-up on previous meeting discussion: Tacker to call networking-sfc API and then our driver model delegates out to whichever SDN controller mech driver is appropriate | 17:04 |
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| cathy_ | s3wong: This is what we discussed in last meeting. Since you are working on Tacker, is this in sync with what Tacker team is thinking about? | 17:05 |
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| KLuehrs | Hi - new to Tacker. Is there a web conference/teleconference bridge for this meeting? I didn't see one on the /Meetings/Tacker wiki page | 17:06 |
| s3wong | cathy_: I asked Tacker PTL to join today's meeting also --- sridhar_ram? | 17:06 |
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| igordcard | KLuehrs, text only | 17:06 |
| s3wong | KLuehrs: our weekly meeting is on Tuesday, 1700 UTC on #openstack-meeting-4 | 17:06 |
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| sridhar_ram | hi folks .. I'm here | 17:07 |
| KLuehrs | OK thanks. | 17:07 |
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| s3wong | cathy_: so I spoke with sridhar_ram on #tacker channel regarding the ODL direct integration | 17:08 |
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| s3wong | (and sridhar_ram is here now) | 17:08 |
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| s3wong | sridhar_ram: you want to take it from here? | 17:08 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: sure... | 17:08 |
| sridhar_ram | cathy_: and team .. our plan is always use networking-sfc as the preferred option | 17:08 |
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| sridhar_ram | we also understand it will take sometime as we are all building things in parallel.. | 17:09 |
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| sridhar_ram | tacker user community has been asking to try out SFC use-cases for a while .. | 17:09 |
| cathy_ | sridhar_ram: OK, great. thanks for the info. Sure it will take time and we will work with you on that. | 17:10 |
| sridhar_ram | .. and now we have an option by using ODL | 17:10 |
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| sridhar_ram | cathy_: here is a slides I shared w/ OPNFV-SFC team sometime back .. https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/18AGaiysVgHOd_fIHVpObMO7zUkMjJGOQ98CUwkxU1xo/edit#slide=id.p14 | 17:10 |
| sridhar_ram | cathy_: I showed a multi phase approach .. we are in phase 1 (slide 5) | 17:11 |
| sridhar_ram | plan is to eventually move to phase 3 (slide 7) | 17:11 |
| cathy_ | sridhar_ram: OK, we will take a look at the slides after the meeting. | 17:12 |
| pcarver_ | hi. I joined late. | 17:12 |
| cathy_ | pcarver_: hi | 17:12 |
| LouisF | sridhar_ram: slide 8 shows a odl driver - are there plans to add a networking-sfc driver? | 17:12 |
| LouisF | does tacker support the ability to add other drivers? | 17:12 |
| sridhar_ram | LouisF: In fact, that was my understanding ... I was about to ask the same to this team here :) | 17:12 |
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| LouisF | i think iut would be useful to add a driver manager to tacker to support various SB drivers | 17:13 |
| cathy_ | sridhar_ram: slide 7 is in sync with our discussion in last meeting. Great that tacker will move to phase 3 slide 7. | 17:13 |
| s3wong | LouisF: I don't think Tacker is in the business of integrating with SB SDN / network drivers long term | 17:14 |
| cathy_ | agree with s3wong | 17:14 |
| s3wong | LouisF: once networking-sfc stabilizes, networking-sfc would likely be the only thing we will be using moving forward | 17:14 |
| s3wong | which is the phase 3 diagram in sridhar_ram 's slides | 17:15 |
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| cathy_ | OK, let's move to second topic | 17:15 |
| LouisF | s3wong: slide 8 shows a sfc driver | 17:16 |
| s3wong | hopefully by the next OPNFV summit, we will have a fully integrated solution :-) | 17:16 |
| sridhar_ram | LouisF: tacker can have multiple SFC drivers backing its sfc-extension API | 17:16 |
| sridhar_ram | LouisF: but our preference is to go through networking-sfc API as much as possible | 17:17 |
| igordcard | it's interesting... tacker team, do you intend to leverage most of the opendaylight-sfc features through networking-sfc (in the case of an ODL networking-sfc driver)? | 17:17 |
| igordcard | including SFC encapsulation | 17:17 |
| s3wong | igordcard: encapsulation (and anything plumbing related) --- definitely | 17:17 |
| sridhar_ram | LouisF: .. along the lines we are taking a practical approach to enable SFC in tacker | 17:17 |
| LouisF | sridhar_ram: great i think networking-sfc would be very interested in working with tacker team on a tacker - networking-sfc driver | 17:17 |
| sridhar_ram | LouisF: thanks! | 17:18 |
| s3wong | igordcard: but my understanding (which admittedly is a bit limited) is that ODL SFC also has a chain template portion, which Tacker may need to service | 17:18 |
| sridhar_ram | igordcard: we need reconcile the features of odl-sfc and the networking-sfc api .. | 17:18 |
| igordcard | s3wong, that's good, we need to make sure networking-sfc is abstract or flexible enough to allow that, somehow, through their API | 17:18 |
| sridhar_ram | igordcard: +1 | 17:18 |
| s3wong | igordcard: as this template stuff affects lifecycle management of the service VMs | 17:18 |
| sridhar_ram | I've one question to the team here.. | 17:19 |
| s3wong | igordcard: agreed | 17:19 |
| sridhar_ram | have you looked at ODL-SFC for ideas to expand the proposed networking-sfc api ? | 17:19 |
| sridhar_ram | the reason I ask.. it seems one of the good opensource NSH-OVS enabled SFC out there ? | 17:20 |
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| s3wong | sridhar_ram: (now speaking as a member of the networking-sfc team) I believe the SFP portion of the APIs can be well serviced by networking-sfc with minimal changes | 17:20 |
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| LouisF | s3wong: agree | 17:20 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: for the NSH problem --- unfortunately unlike ODL, us in Neutron need to adhere to what is available as standard (OVS releases) | 17:21 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: my high level thought pt is .. we should degrade ODL's SFC capability "too much" if consumed through networking-sfc | 17:21 |
| sridhar_ram | s/should/SHOULD NOT/ | 17:21 |
| cathy_ | sridhar_ram: Could you be more specific? which one do you think networking-sfc api does not satisfy? | 17:21 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: so we are all eagerly waiting for OVS to have NSH support... it is promising, as folks from Intel is currently pushing for this effort, and that Jesse Gross seems to be working with the folks at Intel to get the support in | 17:22 |
| cathy_ | sridhar_ram: the API allows specification of encap mechanism including NSH | 17:22 |
| igordcard | s3wong, sure, so should the framework be able support the different capabilities depending on the active driver? while still having a stable API | 17:22 |
| sridhar_ram | cathy_: that's good to hear encap is allowed .. we might also need transport_type (that is up for discussion thougth) | 17:22 |
| cathy_ | as s3wong said, when NSH is officially accepted by OVS, we can easily incorporate it in. | 17:22 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: that said, once we have networking-sfc driver for ODL SFC, the ODL SFC code is standard release (Lithium), and we would be able to use whatever OVS fork ODL decides to use :-) | 17:23 |
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| sridhar_ram | cathy_: more info is available in tacker-sfc spec .. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228007/3/specs/liberty/tacker-sfc.rst | 17:23 |
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| LouisF | sridhar_ram: when nsh is available in a released ovs version networking-sfc can take advantage if it | 17:23 |
| cathy_ | Our API allows more flexibility than just restricting to one encap mechanism and the flexibility is the feedback we got at our design stage | 17:23 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: I do believe ODL SFC integration would likely push us (networking-sfc team) to expand on the params field of the port chain to include NSH and related parameters | 17:24 |
| sridhar_ram | LouisF: sounds good...my understanding is that is getting close.. | 17:24 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: that's promising! | 17:24 |
| pcarver_ | We may need to think about adding some sort of capability discovery to the API | 17:24 |
| igordcard | s3wong, glad to hear that.. and that pcarver_ | 17:25 |
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| s3wong | sridhar_ram, LouisF, cathy_: I do believe (as I mentioned above), with the ODL SFC driver (in networking-sfc), we can have NSH, since technically the ODL SFC support is an official OSS project release (sidestep the fact that THEY are using a fork version of OVS :-) ) | 17:25 |
| s3wong | pcarver_: that's an interesting thought... | 17:25 |
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| sridhar_ram | s3wong: pcarver_: as long as we have a n-sfc api that is a rough superset .... we would be good | 17:26 |
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| s3wong | sridhar_ram: certainly | 17:26 |
| cathy_ | s3wong: yes, with ODL SFC driver in networking-sfc, we can have NSH. Or even without the ODL driver, we can have it through OVS driver directly | 17:26 |
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| LouisF | cathy_: that would work | 17:27 |
| s3wong | cathy_, sridhar_ram: glad we have an agreement on the integration plan. Good discussion! | 17:28 |
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| cathy_ | LouisF: s3wong sure:-) | 17:28 |
| cathy_ | pcarver_: for the capability discovery addition to the API, we can discuss after we get the first phase functionality and codes merged. OK with you? | 17:28 |
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| LouisF | sridhar_ram: i think it would be useful to add a slide to your deck that outlines what we are proposing here | 17:29 |
| pcarver_ | cathy_: absolutely. We need to cover the common SFC functionality of major SDN controllers first | 17:29 |
| LouisF | pcarver_: +1 | 17:30 |
| pcarver_ | It's just that if we find that some SDN controllers have capabilities that others don't, we don't want networking-sfc to restrict the capabilities | 17:30 |
| cathy_ | pcarver_: sure, agree | 17:30 |
| pcarver_ | but we don't want end users to have to guess at what's supported either | 17:30 |
| igordcard | cathy_, assuming the API/framework and so on are still open for changes after the first phase gets merged, I'm completely +1 with you - it will also be easier to just check out the code, stack it and try it | 17:30 |
| LouisF | igordcard: +1 | 17:30 |
| s3wong | cathy_: time for next topic? | 17:31 |
| s3wong | :-) | 17:31 |
| igordcard | pcarver_, +1 | 17:31 |
| cathy_ | igordcard: sure it will be open for changes/extensions. We need to define more extensions to support richer functionality and more scenarios. I have all those in mind, but let's do step by step:-) | 17:31 |
| sridhar_ram | LouisF: sure. I can add one.. | 17:32 |
| cathy_ | s3wong: sure let's go to next topic | 17:32 |
| igordcard | cathy_, perfect | 17:32 |
| sridhar_ram | LouisF: we can maintain this as a common set of slides for our common user community | 17:32 |
| pcarver_ | igordcard: we just added a warning to the docs that the API is experimental and subject to change | 17:32 |
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| cathy_ | #topic Patch update progress | 17:32 |
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| sridhar_ram | pcarver_: +1 .. | 17:32 |
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| cathy_ | So we have spent quite some time doing rebase and solving those build errors due to dependency order. Now we have re-split the FC plugin from the port chain plugin per our agreement last time. | 17:35 |
| pcarver_ | who has all of the code installed and running? I keep running into problems. | 17:35 |
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| cathy_ | pcarver_: we once had all codes installed and running. | 17:36 |
| pcarver_ | It would be helpful if someone who has it working could replicate setup from a fresh new DevStack and write down all the steps in the correct order. | 17:36 |
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| igordcard | pcarver_, +2 | 17:37 |
| cathy_ | but due to some name changes in FC and other config changes (Vikram made if I am right), we are having some problems. We have been working on fixing those and uploading patches | 17:38 |
| cathy_ | pcarver_: What we did is manual installation, not via devstack. | 17:39 |
| igordcard | I have very recently finished a rebase on this even though I'm not sure if FC is working, I can share the git repo if you want to test it... q-svc runs | 17:39 |
| pcarver_ | We also need to verify whether the tox config is correct. There are a lot of failures in the gate. I don't know if those are gate problems or code problems. | 17:39 |
| pcarver_ | cathy_: What base OpenStack are you using? | 17:39 |
| cathy_ | pcarver_: yes, we are working on those problems. If you look at the latest update, most failures are fixed. | 17:40 |
| LouisF | pcarver_: the tox gate failures have been resolved | 17:40 |
| cathy_ | pcarver_: what do you mean by base openstack? | 17:40 |
| cathy_ | we are based on Liberty | 17:40 |
| LouisF | pcarver_: will post latest ovs driver changes | 17:41 |
| pcarver_ | cathy_: Did you mean you're not using DevStack? Or just that you didn't use DevStack to install networking-sfc | 17:41 |
| cathy_ | pcarver_: did not use devstack | 17:41 |
| igordcard | LouisF, thanks | 17:41 |
| cathy_ | pcarver_: not yet | 17:41 |
| pcarver_ | cathy_: I mean are you using Fuel or RDO or a fully manual installation of OpenStack? | 17:41 |
| cathy_ | pcarver_: manual | 17:41 |
| pcarver_ | cathy_: So everything, Nova, Glance, Keystone all manually installed and configured without automation? | 17:42 |
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| cathy_ | pcarver_: if you talk about basic openstack, then it is not manual | 17:42 |
| pcarver_ | cathy_: That's what I'm asking about. What are you using to setup the OpenStack that you're manually adding networking-sfc to | 17:43 |
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| cathy_ | pcarver_ it is through devstack. But we also run into some problems which we have to debug and manually fix them. | 17:43 |
| cathy_ | pcarver_: Some problems relate to linux version | 17:44 |
| pcarver_ | I use DevStack to get clean environments to clone networking-sfc into. But I haven't been able to install it successfully yet. | 17:44 |
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| igordcard | I would be very happy to help on fixing the rest of the rebases, but I can't do it just like that or the patchsets will clash; or I can help by commenting on the patchsets for the issues that I've been encountering | 17:44 |
| cathy_ | igordcard: since we are almost done with rebase, let louis and I finish them, then you can comment | 17:45 |
| igordcard | cathy_, LouisF okay then, so I'll fully try it again when the head (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238428/) gets updated | 17:46 |
| s3wong | Guys: sorry, need to drop off. Talk to you guys in two weeks (since I would imagine next meeting will be canceled due to Thanksgiving). | 17:46 |
| cathy_ | There might be some comments which we forgot to incorporate in the new patch. If you see that, I apologize. Please re-add your comments to the latest rebase patches. | 17:46 |
| igordcard | when the head works I will start my normal reviewing process on gerrit, otherwise comments will just get buried | 17:46 |
| mohankumar | pccarver_ : i used de vstack to pull sfc changes and its works for me | 17:46 |
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| cathy_ | s3wong: yes, I will cancel next meeting. ttyl | 17:47 |
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| igordcard | cya s3wong | 17:47 |
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| LouisF | igordcard: we will update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238428/ | 17:48 |
| igordcard | mohankumar, I'll get in touch with you offline | 17:48 |
| cathy_ | mohankumar: great. so everything works automatically? | 17:48 |
| cathy_ | mohankumar: without any glitch? | 17:48 |
| ramanjaneya_ | ramanjaneya_: igordcard :we will update the patch | 17:48 |
| igordcard | LouisF, thanks, but please update only when all previous patches have been rebased, otherwise 238428 will still not work :( | 17:48 |
| mohankumar | cathy_ : yes | 17:48 |
| LouisF | igordcard: yes will do | 17:49 |
| cathy_ | pcarver_: maybe you can sync up with mohankumar to see what is the gap between you two | 17:49 |
| pcarver_ | mohankumar: did you write down the sequence of steps? | 17:49 |
| mohankumar | pcarver_ : ok | 17:50 |
| pcarver_ | e.g., did you run stack.sh before or after installing networking-sfc? | 17:50 |
| pcarver_ | mohankumar: and if you can share your full local.conf that might help too | 17:50 |
| ramanjaneya_ | ramanjaneya_: steps already specified in the patch | 17:50 |
| mohankumar | igordcard: can you talk to prithiv , i helped him to get sfc changes with devstack | 17:50 |
| igordcard | maybe all interested parties can discuss in #openstack-neutron? | 17:51 |
| igordcard | mohankumar, yes I have been in touch with him but he seems to be using an old version of the code, back from when networking-sfc was stackable... the head of networking-sfc is not stackable right now | 17:51 |
| cathy_ | ramanjaneya_: mohankumar so just follow the steps in the patch will work with no glitch? | 17:51 |
| mohankumar | pcarver_: i 'l l share c | 17:52 |
| cathy_ | mohankumar: Could you send the local.conf to everyone? | 17:52 |
| ramanjaneya_ | cathy_: will work if follow the steps in the patch | 17:53 |
| mohankumar | cathy_: ok , i ve working code without patches added recently | 17:53 |
| cathy_ | mohankumar: ramanjaneya_ after we are done with OVS agent patch to fix all the failures, could you work on the devstack patch and the command line patch to fix the errors? | 17:54 |
| mohankumar | cathy_ : ok | 17:55 |
| cathy_ | I will go to the next topic before we run out of time | 17:55 |
| cathy_ | #topic Patch dependency issue and how we avoid cross damage to other patches due to change of one patch | 17:55 |
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| ramanjaneya_ | ramanjaneya_: cathy_ :ok | 17:55 |
| cathy_ | mohankumar: ramanjaneya_ thanks! | 17:55 |
| cathy_ | In the future, I think whenever we upload a new patch which other patches depend on, let's run the gating tests of all the other patches to make sure there is no co-lateral damage before upload the patch. What do you think? | 17:56 |
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| igordcard | cathy_, the problem with the current patch dependency is that there are too many patches depending on each other so it's really hard to keep consistency unless you're rebasing everything everytime | 17:58 |
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| igordcard | cathy_, but in the future, with this big chunk merged, it won't be as difficult because patches will be smaller, less dependent, more specific | 17:59 |
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| pcarver_ | cathy_: It's too late to fix now so we need to keep pushing forward to get a working base merged, but it would have been better to stubbed out the framework first so that we could have merged a series of simpler patches. | 18:00 |
| igordcard | I understand it is difficult for you to have it properly resolved at this point, but this is the hardest time of all | 18:00 |
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| cathy_ | igordcard: yes, agree. For now that is the issue we need to face since we break up the codes into multiple patches. | 18:00 |
| cathy_ | we are running out of time. we cna discuss more in next meeting | 18:00 |
| cathy_ | by everyone | 18:00 |
| cathy_ | pcarver_: agree | 18:01 |
| igordcard | bye all | 18:01 |
| pcarver_ | I think once we get a working and reliably installable package, we can go back and refactor some things in smaller patches. | 18:01 |
| cathy_ | pcarver_: yes, we need to first merge the base working package | 18:01 |
| cathy_ | #endmeeting | 18:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 19 18:02:08 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2015/service_chaining.2015-11-19-17.00.html | 18:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2015/service_chaining.2015-11-19-17.00.txt | 18:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2015/service_chaining.2015-11-19-17.00.log.html | 18:02 |
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