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| mfedosin | flaper87: hi! what about drivers meeting today? | 10:54 |
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| Jokke_ | he might be very much sleeping still | 10:55 |
| mfedosin | I want to talk about trusts there :) | 10:55 |
| mfedosin | we finished the spec and the code | 10:56 |
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| mfedosin | (v1 part needs some updates, but I'll make them in an hour) | 10:57 |
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| flaper87 | o/ | 10:59 |
| flaper87 | I'm here | 10:59 |
| flaper87 | but it's in a couple of hours from now | 11:00 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: ^ | 11:00 |
| flaper87 | at least that's what my calendar says | 11:00 |
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| mfedosin | flaper87: it's at 14 UTC, right? | 11:02 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: it's when my calendar says so :P Jokes apart, yeah. It's at 14:00 | 11:03 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: I always forget the exact time and start doing whatever shows up | 11:04 |
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| mfedosin | flaper87: cool, so I'm going to add trusts item in drivers agenda :) | 11:05 |
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| flaper87 | Courtesy Glance Drivers' meeting reminder: nikhil_k, flaper87, sigmavirus24, rosmaita, mclaren, dhellmann, jokke_, mfedosin | 13:59 |
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| dhellmann | yolanda: I have someone looking for a contact o/ | 13:59 |
| flaper87 | #startmeeting Glance Drivers | 13:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 10 13:59:10 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flaper87. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:59 |
| dhellmann | oops | 13:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Glance Drivers)" | 13:59 | |
| dhellmann | o/ | 13:59 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance_drivers' | 13:59 |
| flaper87 | Greetings everyone! | 13:59 |
| flaper87 | hope you all had a great summit and that your brains are back to almost-normal-speed after the summit and the TZ change | 13:59 |
| flaper87 | Lets see if we have quorum | 13:59 |
| flaper87 | #topic roll call | 13:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: Glance Drivers)" | 13:59 | |
| flaper87 | I see dhellmann :D | 14:00 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 14:00 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: you around? You have 2 topics on the agenda | 14:00 |
| flaper87 | nikhil_k: rosmaita ? | 14:00 |
| flaper87 | mmh, no one seems to be around :( | 14:00 |
| mfedosin | o/ | 14:01 |
| mfedosin | hey | 14:01 |
| mfedosin | trust spec is ready | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: there you are | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: wait wait, we're not on topic yet | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | hahaha | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:01 |
| mfedosin | yeah | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | meh, lets do this anyway! I hope folks will read logs | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | #topic agenda | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: Glance Drivers)" | 14:01 | |
| mfedosin | let's begin | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-drivers-meeting-agenda | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | that's our agenda for today | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | #topic Trusts for Glance https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229878/ mfedosin | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Trusts for Glance https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229878/ mfedosin (Meeting topic: Glance Drivers)" | 14:02 | |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: so, is it ready? | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | I saw stuart commented and -1'd | 14:02 |
| mfedosin | so, yeah. we've prepared a spec, that describes current trust implementation in Glance | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | anything blocking ? | 14:02 |
| mfedosin | nothing serious | 14:02 |
| mfedosin | Stuart is not aware that we agreed to split the spec | 14:03 |
| mfedosin | for glance and glance_store | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: ok, perhaps that should be mentioned in the spec? | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | that there are (or will be) two specs | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | thoughts? | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | At least it's clearer and Stuart will know | 14:03 |
| mfedosin | so his main concerns that there is no info about swift cases | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | That said, I'll chase people down to get proper +2's on that and move this forward | 14:03 |
| mfedosin | okay, will add | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: cool | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | also, ETA for the glance_store spec ? | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | :) | 14:04 |
| mfedosin | this week | 14:04 |
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| mfedosin | Friday, I suppose | 14:04 |
| * flaper87 writes that down | 14:04 | |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | awesome | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | otherwise, I'll start removing beers from the list of beers I owe you | 14:04 |
| mfedosin | code for SingleTenant is ready | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | nnnnnnice | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | you're a machine | 14:05 |
| mfedosin | =P | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | ok, next topic | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | #topic Glance v2 api filtering extension with IN option https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/api-wg/guidelines/pagination_filter_sort.html mfedosin | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Glance v2 api filtering extension with IN option https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/api-wg/guidelines/pagination_filter_sort.html mfedosin (Meeting topic: Glance Drivers)" | 14:05 | |
| mfedosin | so, yeah | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | not sure if it's worth it discussing that w/o the rest of the folks but do share your thoughts so that it gets logged | 14:05 |
| mfedosin | it's another request from Horizon team | 14:05 |
| mfedosin | for some reason they need it from Glance | 14:06 |
| mfedosin | and since api-wg spec is approved | 14:06 |
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| mfedosin | we can implement it in Glance | 14:06 |
| mfedosin | Darja wants to take it :) | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | Do we have an idea of what the impact of this will be? | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | From a DB perspective, would it need new indexes? | 14:07 |
| mfedosin | frankly speaking - no. Timur from Horizon came to last week and asked to implement it | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | how fast/slow is this when there are many images ? | 14:07 |
| mfedosin | now he's on vacation :( | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | ok ok | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | it'd be better to get an idea of what the impact of this is | 14:08 |
| mfedosin | we can test performance with rally | 14:08 |
| mfedosin | after it's implemented | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | Since this is a cross-project bp, we can have just a LP blueprint to track it | 14:08 |
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| mfedosin | but anyway it's cool to get a list of specific images in one request | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | meantime, you may want to create a lite-spec so we can have some discssion there | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | I agree | 14:09 |
| mfedosin | agree with light-spec | 14:09 |
| mfedosin | let's begin with it | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | awesome | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | The next topic is mine but I need other drivers to talk about that as it just requires voting | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | lets go to open discussion | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | #topic Open Discussion | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Glance Drivers)" | 14:09 | |
| mfedosin | about use_user_token deprecation | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | 1- I did a review on the image import process spec. It's looking better, we're getting closer | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | 2- I'll update the lite-spec process review this week | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: shoot | 14:10 |
| mfedosin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237742/ | 14:10 |
| mfedosin | here is the patch that does it | 14:10 |
| mfedosin | a have to address Erno's comments | 14:11 |
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| flaper87 | sweet, that's probably worth mentioning in our weekly meeting too | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | thanks for working on that | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | :) | 14:11 |
| mfedosin | but it works :) and it improves test coverage by 3% | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | w000h000 | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | nice | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | ok, anything else? | 14:12 |
| mfedosin | I believe in N we will be able to remove this code | 14:12 |
| mfedosin | nothing from my side | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: ++ | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | awesome, thanks for your work and for updating those specs | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | I'll help you getting those votes and the spec merged | 14:13 |
| mfedosin | I'll ping you when they are done | 14:13 |
| * flaper87 starts chasing ppl | 14:13 | |
| flaper87 | yes, please! | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | thanks for your time | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | #endmeeting | 14:13 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 10 14:13:56 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:13 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_drivers/2015/glance_drivers.2015-11-10-13.59.html | 14:13 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_drivers/2015/glance_drivers.2015-11-10-13.59.txt | 14:14 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_drivers/2015/glance_drivers.2015-11-10-13.59.log.html | 14:14 |
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| clayton | #startmeeting | 15:00 |
| openstack | clayton: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 15:00 |
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| mwhahaha | :o | 15:00 |
| iurygregory | mfisch, is the chair i think | 15:00 |
| clayton | #startmeeting puppet-openstack | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 10 15:00:59 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clayton. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'puppet_openstack' | 15:01 |
| clayton | he's running late, he asked me to help things get started | 15:01 |
| iurygregory | oh ;) np | 15:01 |
| clayton | We have a very light agenda this week, I suspect we may be done before he gets here :) | 15:01 |
| clayton | Agenda is here - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-weekly-meeting-20151110 | 15:01 |
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| skolekonov | Hi | 15:02 |
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| IvanBerezovskiy | hi | 15:02 |
| degorenko | hey o/ | 15:02 |
| richm | hello | 15:02 |
| mwhahaha | hi | 15:02 |
| aderyugin | 0/ | 15:02 |
| iurygregory | hello | 15:02 |
| clayton | #topic review past items - spredzy to patch puppet-glance to create db.pp | 15:02 |
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| clayton | is spredzy here? | 15:02 |
| sbadia | hi! | 15:03 |
| spredzy | clayton, hello | 15:03 |
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| spredzy | clayton, back from PTO haven't looked at it yet | 15:03 |
| degorenko | clayton, actually patch already on review :) https://review.openstack.org/237970 | 15:03 |
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| degorenko | i've uploaded it before summit | 15:03 |
| clayton | ah, ok | 15:03 |
| clayton | so status is in progress, needs reviews? | 15:03 |
| degorenko | yes | 15:03 |
| degorenko | need +2 :) | 15:04 |
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| clayton | #info Denis put up review for glance::db, needs reviews | 15:04 |
| clayton | do you want to discuss anything about it here? | 15:05 |
| degorenko | nope :) | 15:05 |
| angdraug | looks in good shape, 4 +1's so far | 15:05 |
| spredzy | will review it | 15:06 |
| clayton | ok, next topic is this murango-initial-implementation gerrit topic | 15:07 |
| clayton | not sure how to summarize that one for the bot. Is this just a request for reviews, or request for discussion? | 15:07 |
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| IvanBerezovskiy | I think it's last patch from big set, let's merge it :) | 15:07 |
| angdraug | aderyugin: is it the last one? | 15:08 |
| degorenko | yeah :) there is a last patch | 15:08 |
| iurygregory | acceptance is merged? | 15:08 |
| degorenko | yep | 15:08 |
| clayton | #topic Finishing puppet-murano initial patches | 15:08 |
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| iurygregory | nice :D | 15:08 |
| clayton | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/puppet-murano+branch:master+topic:murano-initial-implementation,n,z Last review remaining | 15:08 |
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| clayton | any further discussion on that? Seems straightforward | 15:09 |
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| clayton | #info request core reviews to review final puppet-murano initial implementation patch | 15:11 |
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| clayton | Guessing this is the same story | 15:11 |
| clayton | #topic Final reviews and merge on puppet-swift feature: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203220/ | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Final reviews and merge on puppet-swift feature: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203220/ (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:11 | |
| clayton | vinsh, this is yours? | 15:11 |
| angdraug | already has one +2... | 15:12 |
| iurygregory | he is not here clayton | 15:13 |
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| vinsh | o/ | 15:13 |
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| clayton | vinsh: anything you want to say about the patch? I assume you're looking for a second +2? | 15:15 |
| vinsh | Yes, just looking for a second +2. Its been through testing by others as well as my self. | 15:15 |
| vinsh | I think its just been around so long its lost interest of others | 15:15 |
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| vinsh | So, i'm asking for renewed interest to move it forward. | 15:16 |
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| clayton | I'll take a look this week. hopefully we can get it merged. I think we tend to lack people with expertise/experience on puppet-swift, plus it's a big patch | 15:16 |
| clayton | ok, moving on unless there is any other comments? | 15:17 |
| vinsh | Sounds good. Its step one in a series of other changes on the way. Broken out as small as possible for the feature it adds at this time. | 15:17 |
| clayton | #topic Help with concat::fragment https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216821/ | 15:18 |
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| iurygregory | me | 15:18 |
| clayton | This is yours Iury? | 15:18 |
| iurygregory | yep ;) | 15:18 |
| iurygregory | ok i'm trying to do this to the keystone virtual host http://paste.openstack.org/compare/473858/473857/ | 15:18 |
| iurygregory | add the green things | 15:18 |
| iurygregory | for the location part i'm using concat::fragment, but i'm facing some issues degorenko help me many times | 15:19 |
| iurygregory | yesterday Hunner give some tips and the CI pass, but the tempate is not apply to the file =/ | 15:19 |
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| iurygregory | i've tried different ways (thats way have many patches) | 15:20 |
| mfisch | sorry I'm late, had night maintenance work | 15:20 |
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| sbadia | mfisch: np | 15:21 |
| iurygregory | so if anyone can give help me in this patch i'll be glad =) | 15:21 |
| clayton | iurygregory: sounds like you've gotten some help, but it's still not clear why it's not working then? | 15:21 |
| iurygregory | yeah =/ | 15:21 |
| iurygregory | for some reason my workspace is a little crazy, and to test i need to send a patch | 15:22 |
| iurygregory | and then i use vagrant to verify if the manifest is ok | 15:22 |
| clayton | ah, so that's also why so many patches? | 15:22 |
| iurygregory | yeah | 15:23 |
| iurygregory | i can just run lint and syntax o.o | 15:23 |
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| clayton | any particular action item you'd like? Sounds like you've been able to get help when asking in channel? | 15:24 |
| iurygregory | nope =) | 15:24 |
| clayton | or any volunteers to take another look? | 15:24 |
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| iurygregory | with hunner approach the CI pass but the file doesn't change (patch 45) | 15:25 |
| clayton | ok, I'd say just ask in channel, or might actually want to try #puppet also, since it seems likely the issue is somewhere in the interaction between puppet-concat and puppet-apache | 15:25 |
| iurygregory | thanks for the tip clayton =) | 15:26 |
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| clayton | #topic Trove seems broken in RDO packages ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214798/ ) | 15:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Trove seems broken in RDO packages ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214798/ ) (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:26 | |
| clayton | sbadia ? | 15:26 |
| sbadia | yep, just an info, I take a look with rdo people on this | 15:26 |
| clayton | ok, so you'll take the action to look into it further? | 15:27 |
| sbadia | (openstack-trove-taskmanager, isn't present anymore in repo :/) | 15:27 |
| sbadia | yep! | 15:27 |
| clayton | #action sbadia to investigate Trove bring broken in RDO (openstack-trove-taskmanager appears to be missing) | 15:27 |
| degorenko | rdo guys said that repo not full ready now :) it will be ready in ~2 days | 15:27 |
| sbadia | #action sbadia take a look with rdo people for openstack-trove-taskmanager missing package | 15:27 |
| sbadia | oups… | 15:27 |
| clayton | either way :) | 15:28 |
| sbadia | eck… | 15:28 |
| IvanBerezovskiy | the same problem was with missed pymysql package. RDO guys sad that they should fix mirorr after 1-2 days | 15:28 |
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| clayton | That's everything we had on the agenda | 15:28 |
| IvanBerezovskiy | s/sad/said | 15:28 |
| sbadia | haha #rdo… | 15:28 |
| clayton | #topic Open discussion | 15:28 |
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| clayton | Any other topics to cover? | 15:28 |
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| degorenko | yeah, probably | 15:29 |
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| degorenko | what about review for https://review.openstack.org/229548 and https://review.openstack.org/229895 ? | 15:29 |
| degorenko | :) | 15:29 |
| degorenko | it is on review so long | 15:29 |
| xenolog13 | guys, what about review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238156/ | 15:29 |
| clayton | xenolog13: let's do one at a time | 15:30 |
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| clayton | degorenko do you guys have many people using nova-network still? | 15:31 |
| clayton | I was surprised to see the patch | 15:31 |
| degorenko | clayton, actually, nova-network is still using, not too common | 15:32 |
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| degorenko | there are no actual changes in provider work, some refactoring | 15:33 |
| clayton | #info degorenko requesting reviews of https://review.openstack.org/229548 and https://review.openstack.org/229895 | 15:33 |
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| clayton | xenolog13: what about your review? Any comments or just needing reviews? | 15:34 |
| degorenko | clayton, some strange situation - no actual errors, but jobs are failed | 15:34 |
| mfisch | degorenko: which one was the fails? | 15:35 |
| xenolog13 | patch on review too long time. | 15:35 |
| degorenko | mfisch, all scenario jobs | 15:35 |
| clayton | scenario tests | 15:35 |
| mattymo | this change is really important to get around potential SSL warnings | 15:35 |
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| clayton | do we have a volunteer to help xenolog13 troubleshoot the scenario job failures on that patch? I agree it would be good to get this one merged | 15:36 |
| xenolog13 | logs of scenario tests does not carry information what was failed. | 15:36 |
| degorenko | only non-fatal errors | 15:36 |
| degorenko | like image list request | 15:36 |
| degorenko | http://logs.openstack.org/56/238156/11/check/gate-puppet-openstack-integration-scenario001-dsvm-trusty/5b5c581/console.html#_2015-11-10_12_53_59_197 | 15:37 |
| degorenko | no any other error | 15:37 |
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| clayton | Does this need Emilien to take a look? We can assign action items to him since he's not here :) | 15:38 |
| degorenko | nice :) | 15:38 |
| degorenko | but i don't think so | 15:39 |
| xenolog13 | I found just one reason: | 15:39 |
| xenolog13 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/478447/ | 15:39 |
| xenolog13 | for error | 15:39 |
| clayton | so are you guys going to continue investigating on your own then? | 15:39 |
| degorenko | i meant, that i don't know how Emilien can help us on PTO :) | 15:40 |
| xenolog13 | but puppet return non-zero return code not means 'error while deployment' | 15:40 |
| clayton | it's failing because the second run wasn't idempotent | 15:40 |
| degorenko | clayton, no | 15:40 |
| degorenko | the first run also returns 2 | 15:41 |
| clayton | first run is allowed to return 2 ;) | 15:41 |
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| clayton | I think this is probably the last topic, let's continue this in #puppet-openstack and see if there are any other topics for today | 15:42 |
| clayton | Anyone else have a topic before we end the meeting? | 15:42 |
| clayton | ok then | 15:43 |
| clayton | #endmeeting | 15:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 10 15:43:19 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-11-10-15.00.html | 15:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-11-10-15.00.txt | 15:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-11-10-15.00.log.html | 15:43 |
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| russellb | dougwig: this was the kosmos irc meeting time slot right? no meeting this week? | 16:09 |
| dougwig | russellb: yes, sorry, i overslept today due to fallout 4 launch. | 16:11 |
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| mugsie | russellb: heh, I think I messed up Daylight savings | 16:11 |
| russellb | lol | 16:11 |
| russellb | mugsie: i missed some meetings last week for that reason | 16:11 |
| mugsie | #startmeeting Kosmos | 16:11 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 10 16:11:46 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:11 |
| russellb | dougwig: best excuse i've heard in a while, you're excused | 16:11 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Kosmos)" | 16:11 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kosmos' | 16:11 |
| mugsie | #topic Action Items from last week | 16:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action Items from last week (Meeting topic: Kosmos)" | 16:12 | |
| mugsie | there was none | 16:12 |
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| mugsie | #topic Open Discussion | 16:13 |
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| mugsie | So - one item - mid cycle | 16:13 |
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| mugsie | what are peoples feelings on this? | 16:13 |
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| dougwig | it's not final, but i don't think an lbaas midcycle in europe is going to happen. so either myself and johnsom go to the designate one, or have you come to the states for the lbaas one? i'm open to either. | 16:14 |
| xgerman | o/ | 16:14 |
| mugsie | I can go to the US | 16:14 |
| xgerman | I think barclac prefers that | 16:14 |
| mugsie | looking like Seattle for lbaas right? | 16:14 |
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| dougwig | ok, do you have a designate date yet, so we don't schedule those on top of each other? | 16:15 |
| mugsie | no, not yet. but I can move the designate one around to suit | 16:15 |
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| dougwig | ok, we'll try to nail down date and location at tomorrow's octavia meeting, then. | 16:15 |
| mugsie | sweet | 16:16 |
| xgerman | sounds good | 16:16 |
| * xgerman was looking forward to go to Dublin | 16:16 | |
| mugsie | #I should start dev work next week - we just have to fix designates refactor first :) | 16:16 |
| xgerman | same here… we are planning to have minwang2 get the status function documented soon | 16:16 |
| mugsie | is there anything else out standing ? | 16:16 |
| dougwig | is kunal around? | 16:16 |
| mugsie | IU havent seen him in a while | 16:17 |
| xgerman | mugsie Yahoo offered some GSLB code when we talked with them at a party in Tokyo | 16:17 |
| dougwig | i've been wanting to submit a review of initial almebic/models or whatnot, but that mega initial review is stale. i'm close to not waiting anymore. | 16:17 |
| xgerman | not sure if that will pan out in any way | 16:17 |
| mugsie | dougwig: i am tempted to just by-pass that one | 16:17 |
| dougwig | xgerman: who is the contact there? | 16:17 |
| mugsie | Kunal i would imagine | 16:17 |
| mugsie | or is he Paypal now? | 16:18 |
| xgerman | we harlowja introduced us… johnsom might remember the name | 16:18 |
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| mugsie | #action xgerman to follow up with Yahoo | 16:19 |
| mugsie | :) | 16:19 |
| xgerman | :-) | 16:19 |
| mugsie | any other issues for this week? | 16:19 |
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| dougwig | i'll ping kunal, but also won't wait on a code submission anymore. if he revives that review, i can rebase. | 16:20 |
| dougwig | other than that, no, my suit of t-45 awaits. | 16:20 |
| johnsom | mugsie failed with the meeting invite, no DST.... grin | 16:21 |
| dougwig | oh, one item. | 16:21 |
| dougwig | russellb is our TC mentor. all hail russellb! | 16:21 |
| * mugsie bows | 16:21 | |
| * xgerman hails | 16:21 | |
| mugsie | russellb: you have any questions for us? | 16:21 |
| dougwig | we should do everything in a secret repo, and only talk in password protected channels. we need to make him look good. | 16:22 |
| dougwig | :) | 16:22 |
| xgerman | I think encrypted channels would be more awesome | 16:23 |
| xgerman | #link http://recode.net/2015/11/06/staying-under-the-radar-comic/ | 16:23 |
| mugsie | ++ OTR for lyfe | 16:23 |
| johnsom | He is already ignoring us, so excellent | 16:24 |
| johnsom | grin | 16:24 |
| dougwig | ha. | 16:24 |
| dougwig | move to adjourn. | 16:24 |
| mugsie | seconded | 16:24 |
| mugsie | #endmeeting | 16:24 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 10 16:24:36 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kosmos/2015/kosmos.2015-11-10-16.11.html | 16:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kosmos/2015/kosmos.2015-11-10-16.11.txt | 16:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kosmos/2015/kosmos.2015-11-10-16.11.log.html | 16:24 |
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| russellb | ha, sorry, i had to step away. | 16:29 |
| russellb | but yeah, i'm just trying to follow the project to see how things come along | 16:29 |
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| johnsom | russellb welcome | 16:31 |
| russellb | The TC mentor idea may actually not be formalized, but I'm interested in following the project regardless | 16:31 |
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| johnsom | Moving to our main channel #openstack-gslb | 16:32 |
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| vishwanathj | hello | 17:01 |
| sridhar_ram | tackers here! | 17:01 |
| sridhar_ram | ? | 17:01 |
| sridhar_ram | #startmeeting tacker | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 10 17:02:34 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sridhar_ram. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 17:02 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Roll Call | 17:02 |
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| vishwanathj | o/ | 17:02 |
| sridhar_ram | who is here for Tacker weekly meeting ? | 17:02 |
| tbh | o/ | 17:03 |
| sridhar_ram | vishwanathj: hi there! | 17:03 |
| vishwanathj | sridhar_ram, tbh, Hi | 17:03 |
| sripriya_ | hello | 17:03 |
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| tbh | Hi | 17:04 |
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| sridhar_ram | bobh: you there ? | 17:05 |
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| sridhar_ram | lets start .. | 17:05 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: hi | 17:06 |
| s3wong | hello | 17:06 |
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| bobh | o/ | 17:06 |
| sridhar_ram | I think we have a quorum | 17:06 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Agenda | 17:06 |
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| sridhar_ram | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Tacker#Meeting_Nov_10.2C_2015 | 17:06 |
| sridhar_ram | First, welcome to the first meeting of Mitaka Cycle | 17:07 |
| sridhar_ram | #chair s3wong bobh | 17:07 |
| openstack | Current chairs: bobh s3wong sridhar_ram | 17:08 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Announcements | 17:08 |
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| sridhar_ram | Mitaka Schedule - #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mitaka_Release_Schedule | 17:08 |
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| sridhar_ram | While will use "M" milestones as guides to orient our activities in Mitaka | 17:09 |
| sridhar_ram | M1 is Dec 1-3 | 17:09 |
| sridhar_ram | We have a proposal out to expand core team - #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-November/078971.html | 17:10 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya_: hope you've been nice to everybody here ;-) | 17:11 |
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| vishwanathj | +1, congrats sripriya_ | 17:11 |
| vishwanathj | well deserved | 17:11 |
| natarajk | +1 | 17:11 |
| sripriya_ | sridhar_ram: hope so :-) | 17:11 |
| tbh | sripriya_, congrats, way to go | 17:11 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: didn't even see the email, sorry | 17:11 |
| s3wong | +1 | 17:12 |
| sripriya_ | thanks everyone | 17:12 |
| bobh | +1 | 17:12 |
| s3wong | reply to ML also | 17:13 |
| sridhar_ram | if you can send an email in ML that would be great | 17:13 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: thanks | 17:13 |
| sridhar_ram | lets move on... | 17:13 |
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| sridhar_ram | #topic Tacker Mitaka Priorities | 17:13 |
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| sridhar_ram | Etherpad link #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tacker-mitaka-priorities | 17:14 |
| sridhar_ram | Lets discuss the entries here. | 17:14 |
| sridhar_ram | any general questions / comments ? | 17:15 |
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| sridhar_ram | FWIW, it is an ambitious plan and we really could use more devs! | 17:15 |
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| sridhar_ram | a specific entry that is missing is auto-scaling .. any one thinks that is super important ? | 17:17 |
| sripriya_ | sridhar_ram: when are we looking for blueprints submission for the features listed? | 17:17 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya_: yes, we should get going on blueprints for most of the entries there | 17:18 |
| bobh | sridhar_ram: There hasn't been a lot of interest in auto-scaling from telcos - manual scaling is more interesting to them | 17:18 |
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| bobh | sridhar_ram: so maybe some support of stack-update would be in order | 17:18 |
| vishwanathj | scaling is a VNFM function according to ETSI MANO, is it not? | 17:18 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: agree on auto-scaling observation | 17:19 |
| sridhar_ram | vishwanathj: I was wondering how high value it is to spend our precious bandwidth | 17:20 |
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| sridhar_ram | bobh: manual stack-update is something we could absorb ... | 17:20 |
| vishwanathj | if there are no use cases or demand, we should list it as a known limitation or gap to be taken up when there is a demand | 17:20 |
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| bobh | sridhar_ram: we can also look to see if/how the existing tosca-parser supports auto-scaling - we might get some of that support for free with the TOSCA parser changes | 17:21 |
| sridhar_ram | vishwanathj: agree, one thing we are realizing - and other pointing it out - this whole orchestration is a huge space. we intentionally let the boundaries emerge - naturally based on customer input | 17:22 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: sounds good.. prashanthD is still interested in this area. Perhaps bobh you can guide him to contribute to this specific narrow use-case | 17:23 |
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| sridhar_ram | blueprints wise we already have one for SFC.. | 17:23 |
| bobh | sridhar_ram: sounds good. I might suggest investigating VNFD update and stack-update as solutions for manual scaling until we get a use case for auto-scaling | 17:23 |
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| sridhar_ram | bobh: sounds like a plan | 17:24 |
| bobh | I think the TOSCA parser changes will require three BPs, one each in tosca-parser, heat-translator and tacker | 17:24 |
| sridhar_ram | we need new blueprints for tosca-parser work, multi-vim, | 17:24 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: sure, make sense | 17:25 |
| sripriya_ | sridhar_ram: agree | 17:25 |
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| sridhar_ram | Enhanced VNF placement will need a blueprint too.. again this is a vast subject. vishwanathj you need to clearly scope this out | 17:26 |
| vishwanathj | sure | 17:26 |
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| sridhar_ram | For Auto Flavor / Network create I'd suggest to use simpler RFE process | 17:26 |
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| sridhar_ram | tbh: what do you think ? | 17:26 |
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| tbh | sridhar_ram, make sense | 17:27 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: cool.. | 17:27 |
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| bobh | tbh: You might want to look at the existing tosca-parser/heat-translator functionality to see if it supports creating flavors/networks | 17:28 |
| tbh | bobh, sure, I will take a look at it | 17:28 |
| sridhar_ram | For some of the efforts we also need more folks to join the different tracks .. | 17:29 |
| sridhar_ram | for e.g. enhanced vnf placement and multi-vim needs more devs | 17:29 |
| sridhar_ram | any new contributors here interested to join ? | 17:30 |
| vishwanathj | tbh has volunteered and is interested in the enhanced vnf placement effort | 17:30 |
| sridhar_ram | existing members - please spread the word | 17:30 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, yeah, I am interested in vnf placement | 17:30 |
| sridhar_ram | vishwanathj: tbh: excellent, in fact those are related areas.. some of the extra_specs stuff goes into flavors | 17:31 |
| brucet | Could someone clue me in as to what vnf placement means beyond existing functionality in OpenStack? | 17:31 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: there is a whole laundry list - starting with placing VMs with correct NUMA topology, cpu-pinning,... | 17:32 |
| vishwanathj | brucet, this would be taking into consideration CPU Pinning, SR_IOV and NUMA awareness... | 17:32 |
| brucet | Is there a doc for this under Tacker? | 17:33 |
| bobh | brucet: Also affinity/anti-affinity, server groups, availability zones... | 17:33 |
| vishwanathj | brucet, there is not a doc right now, but I shall be producing one after my investigations | 17:34 |
| bobh | sridhar_ram: I need to leave early today, I'll catch up with the meeting notes. | 17:34 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: end goal is to place the VNF (imagine a set of VDUs / VMs) in the most optimal way for *maximum* performance | 17:34 |
| brucet | Understood. | 17:34 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: sure, ttyl | 17:34 |
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| brucet | I'm just trying to see if there's new functionality required beyond what's a;ready in OpenStack | 17:35 |
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| sridhar_ram | brucet: for now, we are required to work with what's available in openstack... | 17:35 |
| brucet | Ah.... OK | 17:36 |
| brucet | Sorry. I'm just trying to come up to speed. | 17:36 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: no problem at all, thanks for the questions | 17:36 |
| sridhar_ram | in fact this whole area (efficient placement) is quite interesting topic .. | 17:37 |
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| brucet | So as I understand it, the goal for now would be to map OpenStack functionality to VNF placement requirements for ETSI | 17:38 |
| brucet | Then see if there are any gaps. | 17:38 |
| sridhar_ram | vishwanathj: that's why we need some concrete goals to validate what we delivered ... imagine, using this feature, doing a 10g line rate passthru using VNF placed by Tacker | 17:38 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: spot on. nova team has done many things in this area for nfv. we will be the "user" of those features and bug them to fix / enhance as needed | 17:39 |
| brucet | Got it. | 17:39 |
| vishwanathj | sridhar_ram, good point....brucet, be tuned for a spec | 17:39 |
| vishwanathj | be tuned -> stay tuned | 17:39 |
| brucet | Makes perfect sense | 17:40 |
| brucet | I would be happy to join effort | 17:40 |
| vishwanathj | brucet, looking forward to your review and comments | 17:40 |
| brucet | OK | 17:41 |
| vishwanathj | once I have my spec out | 17:41 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: awesome, please do.. any contribution is welcome. you can start w/ reviews | 17:41 |
| brucet | Perfect for me | 17:41 |
| sridhar_ram | On a different topic - SFC - I couldn't be more happier on the progress.. | 17:41 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: how is that progressing? Is there going to be a demo during the OPNFV summit? | 17:43 |
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| sridhar_ram | s3wong: I was looking up an email link to share here... | 17:44 |
| sridhar_ram | Checkout this email thread in opnfv ML - #link http://lists.opnfv.org/pipermail/opnfv-tech-discuss/2015-November/006330.html | 17:45 |
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| sridhar_ram | s3wong: yes, my understanding is there is going to be a demo | 17:45 |
| sridhar_ram | This comment in that thread made me happy - "Seems like as far as SFC is concerned , Tacker is the center of the universe" | 17:46 |
| vishwanathj | +1 | 17:46 |
| sripriya_ | +1 | 17:46 |
| s3wong | :-) | 17:46 |
| sridhar_ram | seems we are indeed doing something that make sense for the nfv world :) | 17:46 |
| sridhar_ram | any thing else on what is in store for Mitaka ? | 17:47 |
| sridhar_ram | prashantD_: hi there | 17:47 |
| sridhar_ram | prashantD_: we were just talking about how much we should do in "VNF scaling" in Mitaka | 17:48 |
| sripriya_ | sridhar_ram: probably you can call out for any volunteers on ML for other Mitaka features just in case anyone is interested | 17:48 |
| sridhar_ram | prashantD_: please reach out to bobh | 17:48 |
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| brucet | Can I ask a question about SFC? | 17:49 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya_: good idea...will give a shout out in the ML. Based on my Tokyo summit conversation we should get more folks. Lets see. | 17:49 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: shoot | 17:49 |
| brucet | Seems like SFC would be potentially used internally by tacker but not exposed in any Tacker APIs, correct? | 17:50 |
| * sridhar_ram 10min mark | 17:50 | |
| s3wong | brucet: by SFC, you mean networking-sfc APIs? | 17:50 |
| brucet | Trying to remember how ETSI Mano describes SFC usage | 17:50 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: for now SFC will be expose as an post VNF instantiation API | 17:51 |
| brucet | OK. So ability to chain VNFs? | 17:51 |
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| brucet | Neutron Service Function Chaining APIs | 17:51 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: in a follow on phase we will start supporting VNFFGD (Forwarding Graph Descriptor) to automatically render the chains without the need to invoke Tacker SFC APIs | 17:51 |
| brucet | OK. I need to look at Mano VNF FGD | 17:52 |
| brucet | So we need to map that to Neutron SFC | 17:52 |
| s3wong | brucet: yes, as sridhar_ram mentioned, we will likely kick off with a Tacker NB APIs for SFC setup after VNFs are instantiated; in the future VNFFG is well defined, we will use that as NB | 17:53 |
| brucet | OK | 17:53 |
| s3wong | brucet: on SB, particularly for setting up traffic plumbing, we should actively integrate with networking-sfc, that's for sure | 17:53 |
| brucet | The Neutron SFC guys are expecting that | 17:53 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong is one of that neutron-sfc guy :) | 17:54 |
| brucet | Ah..... OK | 17:54 |
| brucet | Newbie | 17:54 |
| s3wong | brucet: on the email thread sridhar_ram sent out from opnfv-tech-discuss, various people are suggesting having Tacker plugging in SDN controllers directly | 17:54 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: no worries! | 17:54 |
| igordcard | hi all, just a quick question, when "neutron-sfc" is mentioned, are you referring to "openstack/networking-sfc"? | 17:54 |
| sridhar_ram | igordcard: yes | 17:55 |
| s3wong | we looked briefly into that, in a certain extend, we may NEED to do that anyway --- for example, ODL SFC actually have a templatization side of SFC setup, which something like Neutron port-chaining would not be able to fully support | 17:55 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: that area is still fluid IMO.. | 17:56 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: certainly networking-sfc APIs integration is in order for us | 17:56 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: my preference if is we can normalize everything behind neutron-sfc API.. that's the best. But I also realize the world is not perfect! | 17:57 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: obviously we don't want to adopt networking-sfc but having it turned out to be less function than what Tim and Dan are doing | 17:57 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: as long as we give a nice stab at tacker sfc-driver abstract class with say 70% adopting neutron-sfc with some odd balls directly going to their controller .. that might be one future | 17:58 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: that's what I think will be the case as well | 17:58 |
| sridhar_ram | we are almost out of time | 17:58 |
| s3wong | 2 minutes | 17:58 |
| brucet | Not sure why any calls would be needed directly to SDN controller | 17:58 |
| sridhar_ram | let wraps.. we can contrinue the discussion next week.. | 17:58 |
| s3wong | brucet: it depends on the SDN controller | 17:59 |
| brucet | OK | 17:59 |
| brucet | Would like to see the use case | 17:59 |
| sridhar_ram | Folks with Mitaka deliverable please start working in the blueprints.. | 17:59 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: mine already have a bp, right? :-) | 17:59 |
| sridhar_ram | even some simple WIPs blueprints will be nice to see by next week | 17:59 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: you are covered! | 18:00 |
| sridhar_ram | times up... | 18:00 |
| brucet | Bye | 18:00 |
| sridhar_ram | thanks for joining folks! | 18:00 |
| s3wong | bye, folks! | 18:00 |
| sripriya_ | thanks | 18:00 |
| sridhar_ram | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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