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nikhil_k | #startmeeting glance_artifacts_sub_team | 14:02 |
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openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 9 14:02:35 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is nikhil_k. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance_artifacts_sub_team' | 14:02 |
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kairat | o/ | 14:02 |
nikhil_k | #topic agenda | 14:02 |
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nikhil_k | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-artifacts-sub-team-meeting-agenda | 14:02 |
nikhil_k | hi kairat | 14:03 |
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nikhil_k | should we wait for others? | 14:03 |
kairat | hi nikhil_k | 14:03 |
mfedosin | o/ | 14:03 |
kairat | yep, mfedosin will be here soon | 14:03 |
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dshakhray | o/ | 14:04 |
nikhil_k | cool, nice to see you all here | 14:04 |
nikhil_k | should we wait for alex? | 14:04 |
kairat | nikhil_k, AFAIK he is on vacation this week | 14:05 |
mfedosin | He's on vacation | 14:05 |
mfedosin | he will be here next week | 14:05 |
Jokke_ | that lazy git ;) | 14:05 |
kairat | and that's the main problem right now:) | 14:05 |
nikhil_k | heh | 14:05 |
mfedosin | kairat proposed code to remove current v3 implementation out from glance | 14:05 |
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nikhil_k | Well we just have one item on the agenda for today | 14:05 |
nikhil_k | That I think we need to discuss again with Alex | 14:06 |
kairat | +1 to nikhil_k | 14:06 |
mfedosin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241265/ | 14:06 |
kairat | mfedosin, it needs to be improved to pass the tests | 14:07 |
kairat | I will do it soon | 14:07 |
kairat | but need to discuss with Alex | 14:07 |
mfedosin | sure, it's not urgent | 14:07 |
nikhil_k | #topic review the current v3 impl proposal | 14:07 |
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nikhil_k | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241265/ | 14:07 |
nikhil_k | Can I ask what's the motivation behind this? | 14:08 |
mfedosin | nikhil_k: it was decided on the summit | 14:08 |
nikhil_k | Why can't we roll over to the new version rather than explicitly doing this? | 14:08 |
mfedosin | to make artifacts the whole new service | 14:08 |
Jokke_ | mfedosin: it's not gonna go anywhere from the repo | 14:09 |
kairat | mfedosin, why can't we adopt the new code for this | 14:09 |
kairat | *old code sorry | 14:09 |
Jokke_ | that's like 20min of work to create the paste.inis and the hooks needed and decouple it from the current api service | 14:09 |
mfedosin | two artifact implementations may confuse users | 14:10 |
nikhil_k | Just some context | 14:10 |
Jokke_ | mfedosin: same repo, same codebase just its own endpoint | 14:10 |
nikhil_k | I have been asked by a few folks about this experimental version of the API | 14:10 |
Jokke_ | mfedosin: what do you mean about two implementations? | 14:10 |
nikhil_k | and I think this will help us get some BETA testing done | 14:10 |
mfedosin | Jokke_: this code is considered as old and unstable | 14:11 |
nikhil_k | so, keeping it in the repo would increase our chances of finding all the wrong things and importantly blunders | 14:11 |
mfedosin | I mean the existing v3 code | 14:11 |
nikhil_k | sure, but it's off by default? | 14:11 |
mfedosin | so anyway we have to rewrite it from scratch | 14:11 |
nikhil_k | mfedosin: ^ | 14:11 |
mfedosin | yes, v3 is off | 14:11 |
Jokke_ | mfedosin: ahh ... I din't know that full rewrite was still the plan | 14:12 |
mfedosin | to adopt oslo.vo we have to :( | 14:12 |
Jokke_ | ok, sorry my bad ... didn't realize it involving that much | 14:12 |
mfedosin | there will be new plugins | 14:12 |
Jokke_ | then I do undertand the will to clean the repo first | 14:13 |
mfedosin | and db api will be changed too | 14:13 |
mfedosin | and api as well :) | 14:13 |
mfedosin | so it's better to remove it from repo | 14:13 |
mfedosin | and rewrite from scratch | 14:13 |
nikhil_k | sure, but we are not doing the migration yet as far as I could tell | 14:13 |
Jokke_ | so how we are going to keep the support for murano on the experimental one, or are going to just leave it to stable/liberty to bitrot | 14:14 |
Jokke_ | ? | 14:14 |
mfedosin | about db tables - they will be different | 14:14 |
mfedosin | so we will remove the existing and create new | 14:14 |
nikhil_k | yeah, the murano client /glance feature branch would be rendered useless | 14:15 |
mfedosin | Murano uses artifacts as experimental feature | 14:15 |
mfedosin | and they are okay with completely removing it | 14:15 |
nikhil_k | ok, it might help to have this discussion on the spec itself so that everyone is on the same page for that. | 14:16 |
mfedosin | I wish Alex to be here to confirm my words | 14:16 |
nikhil_k | well, at least I think we should document this downgrade and rewrite | 14:17 |
mfedosin | yes - I will prepare a light spec | 14:17 |
mfedosin | that describes this transition | 14:17 |
mfedosin | glance-v3 -> glare | 14:17 |
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nikhil_k | sounds good, let's start with discussion there so that all the underlying points/concerns are clear. | 14:18 |
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mfedosin | I'm going to start working on it on Wednesday, so next week we can discuss it | 14:18 |
nikhil_k | #info all: comment on the to be proposed {lite}-spec by mfedosin about glare | 14:19 |
mfedosin | thanks ;) | 14:19 |
nikhil_k | thank you! | 14:19 |
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nikhil_k | #topic start review questions from the summit | 14:20 |
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nikhil_k | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-glance-artifacts-review | 14:20 |
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mfedosin | "Agreed to run artifacts in a separate port/process! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)" | 14:21 |
nikhil_k | We have agreed to move it to a separate process and we have agreed to call it Glare. | 14:21 |
nikhil_k | :) | 14:21 |
mfedosin | Glare is awesome name | 14:21 |
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nikhil_k | Would this process have similar semantics as g-api? | 14:21 |
kairat | Once app catalog use it, will it stay forever as separate service? | 14:22 |
mfedosin | frankly speaking my vision may differ from the Alex's | 14:22 |
mfedosin | but yes, it will be similar to g-api | 14:22 |
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nikhil_k | so, we are going to use the same libraries wsgi, eventlet etc? | 14:23 |
mfedosin | and it will be absolutely separate service | 14:23 |
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nikhil_k | should we consider some research around webob, twisted? | 14:23 |
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mfedosin | but Glare api will be called 'Artifact API' | 14:23 |
mfedosin | nikhil_k: for sure we can discuss it | 14:24 |
mfedosin | twisted and other stuff | 14:24 |
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nikhil_k | I think the branding might just have to be done during adoption as we are a bit unsure on what it completely looks like. | 14:24 |
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mfedosin | I believe next week Alex will tell you more about Glare | 14:25 |
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nikhil_k | I think we need to consider some performance constraints for the regular upload download workflows and the lessons learnt from Glance on that. | 14:25 |
mfedosin | one thing he asked me to do before his vacation - to remove the existing code from the repo | 14:25 |
nikhil_k | It might be best to design the API in a way that we don't have to improvise too much during optimizations/ | 14:26 |
mfedosin | nikhil_k: agree | 14:26 |
kairat | +100 | 14:27 |
nikhil_k | mfedosin: I see, in that case hopefully he can simply comment "I agree" on the {lite-}spec when that's up and ready? | 14:27 |
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mfedosin | I won't work on it before I have a clear plan | 14:27 |
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mfedosin | and implementation description | 14:28 |
nikhil_k | No worries, I think we have 2-3 people who may help with establishing the plan, etc. | 14:28 |
mfedosin | yes | 14:29 |
nikhil_k | so, the take away from this question was that 1) yes, let's consider twisted, webob etc 2) API should be better performant | 14:29 |
mfedosin | and I like that AppCatalog agreed to use Glare as backend | 14:29 |
nikhil_k | I see | 14:30 |
nikhil_k | Oops, we are out of time today. | 14:30 |
nikhil_k | Let's continue the review items next week. | 14:30 |
mfedosin | thanks folks | 14:30 |
kairat | thanks | 14:31 |
nikhil_k | Looks like a solid start. | 14:31 |
nikhil_k | Thanks all! | 14:31 |
mfedosin | yup! | 14:31 |
nikhil_k | #endmeeting | 14:31 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 9 14:31:14 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:31 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_artifacts_sub_team/2015/glance_artifacts_sub_team.2015-11-09-14.02.html | 14:31 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_artifacts_sub_team/2015/glance_artifacts_sub_team.2015-11-09-14.02.txt | 14:31 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_artifacts_sub_team/2015/glance_artifacts_sub_team.2015-11-09-14.02.log.html | 14:31 |
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apuimedo | #startmeeting kuryr | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 9 15:00:55 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is apuimedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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apuimedo | Hello everybody and welcome to the first Mitaka cycle Kuryr meeting! | 15:01 |
apuimedo | who's up for a quick meeting? | 15:01 |
tfukushima | o/ | 15:01 |
banix | hi | 15:01 |
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banix | sounds good :) | 15:02 |
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gsagie | Sorry :) | 15:03 |
gsagie | thought its in an hour as clock changed | 15:03 |
gsagie | hi everyone :) | 15:03 |
apuimedo | #info only cores present today. tfukushima, banix, gsagie and apuimedo | 15:03 |
apuimedo | I'm glad you could make it to the meeting | 15:04 |
apuimedo | and I want to start by saying that the Friday morning meetup was very enjoyable. Thanks ;-) | 15:04 |
gsagie | yep, was great to meet everyone | 15:05 |
apuimedo | I also want to apologize for not having posted an agenda | 15:05 |
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apuimedo | basically I'd like to keep following up on the work items | 15:05 |
apuimedo | gsagie is working on having devstack working | 15:06 |
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gsagie | yeah, basically it will need to also install a default k/v store, as Docker engine installation doesnt come with a default one and its not working otherwise | 15:06 |
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apuimedo | #topic devstack | 15:06 |
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gsagie | i hope to send something out tommorow but also will need the OVS binding part, as the example local.conf is going to be with the reference implementation | 15:07 |
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apuimedo | #info devstack needs to set un a default k/v store and set up Docker to use it. | 15:07 |
apuimedo | gsagie: I guess you will do it with consul, right? | 15:07 |
gsagie | apuimedo: actually etcd is simpler for me | 15:08 |
apuimedo | fine | 15:08 |
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gsagie | but we can later add other options | 15:08 |
apuimedo | #info: gsagie will set the default k/v store to be etcd | 15:08 |
apuimedo | any objection from the tfukushima or banix on this point? | 15:08 |
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gsagie | and of course to test it fully i will need the OVS binding part merged | 15:09 |
gsagie | is diga here? | 15:09 |
banix | no not really; haven’t used it with Kuryr but I am sure it will be fine | 15:09 |
tfukushima | apuimedo: The key-value store should be transparent and anything can be fine for me. | 15:09 |
apuimedo | perfect, etcd it is then | 15:09 |
apuimedo | #topic bindings | 15:09 |
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gsagie | tfukushima: yeah the plan is that it can be changed by configuration in the local.conf | 15:09 |
gsagie | so we can add consul quite easily | 15:10 |
apuimedo | banix: I assume you have an ovs binding since you demoed it :-) | 15:10 |
banix | :) | 15:10 |
banix | yes I do; I offered to help diga as he has a patch on it | 15:11 |
apuimedo | banix: that's what I wanted to ask | 15:11 |
banix | I haven’t heard back though | 15:11 |
apuimedo | could you please help him get it this week | 15:11 |
banix | Yes I will reach out to him directly | 15:11 |
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apuimedo | if he does not respond I guess we'll have to move on | 15:11 |
banix | yes sure | 15:12 |
apuimedo | and use either feiskyer abandoned patch or the work you used for the demo | 15:12 |
apuimedo | nice | 15:12 |
tfukushima | Would it be better to have the deadline? | 15:12 |
apuimedo | tfukushima: I'm not sure where that'd be posted | 15:12 |
gsagie | i think we really only need the script and maybe pass the MAC (and optionally bridge) | 15:12 |
gsagie | in the binding | 15:12 |
gsagie | is there anything else? | 15:13 |
apuimedo | gsagie: I'm wondering when I'll see a Dragonflow binding | 15:13 |
gsagie | apuimedo: the OVS one will fit that too :) | 15:13 |
apuimedo | ah, cool | 15:13 |
apuimedo | about the extra parameters | 15:14 |
apuimedo | that ovs binding needs | 15:14 |
banix | gsagie: I think we want to have the option of having the hybrid OVS as well, for security groups. or may be that is the only thing we need? | 15:14 |
gsagie | not only, because OVN for example doesnt need it | 15:14 |
gsagie | but yeah thats a good point | 15:14 |
apuimedo | banix: gsagie: I think that we don't need the hybrid ovs | 15:15 |
apuimedo | if | 15:15 |
apuimedo | of course | 15:15 |
gsagie | apuimedo: its needed for the reference implementation, if i understood correctly what you mean by "hybrid ovs" | 15:15 |
apuimedo | neutron really manages to move ovs to use conntrack for security groups | 15:15 |
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gsagie | apuimedo: yeah, but not sure when this will be merged, dont think its planned for Mitaka | 15:15 |
banix | apuimedo: well, is that going to happen soon? | 15:15 |
apuimedo | oh. I thought it was | 15:16 |
apuimedo | well. Let's figure it out | 15:16 |
apuimedo | and if it isn't planned | 15:16 |
banix | yup | 15:16 |
apuimedo | we have to do the funky linux bridge binding, of course :-) | 15:16 |
banix | apuimedo: I agree | 15:17 |
gsagie | you can add an action on me to find out when its planned | 15:17 |
apuimedo | #action gsagie to check conntrack for security groups in the mitaka cycle | 15:17 |
apuimedo | thanks gsagie | 15:17 |
apuimedo | #action banix to work with diga on the ovs binding (with the hybrid as follow up patches if necessary) | 15:17 |
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apuimedo | vikasc_: hi! Joining the meeting? | 15:18 |
vikasc_ | apuimedo, hi | 15:18 |
vikasc_ | sorry for being late | 15:18 |
apuimedo | no problem, glad you made it | 15:19 |
apuimedo | #topic multi-node | 15:19 |
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apuimedo | #info vikasc_, banix and tfukushima have worked on this | 15:19 |
apuimedo | what's the current state? | 15:19 |
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tfukushima | I confirmed I could ping from a host to another host with my setting where I have Docker 1.9.0 release. | 15:20 |
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apuimedo | tfukushima: master or some other patch necessary? | 15:21 |
tfukushima | We need Vikas's validation patches. | 15:21 |
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tfukushima | Then, it's basically the same as master. | 15:22 |
gsagie | can you describe how the multi node is working? | 15:22 |
tfukushima | Actually I tried with MidoNet and it's specific to it but I just launched two Docker instances in the different hosts. | 15:23 |
apuimedo | #action apuimedo to review validation vikasc patches | 15:23 |
apuimedo | banix did try it with ovs though, right? | 15:23 |
gsagie | what do you mean specific to Midonet? | 15:23 |
apuimedo | or was it ovn? | 15:23 |
gsagie | it needs to communicate with the same Neutron right? | 15:24 |
banix | apuimedo: ovs | 15:24 |
tfukushima | And I just pinged. Before that, I needed to configure them to be in the same tunnel zone, which is the concept specific to MidoNet. | 15:24 |
apuimedo | do you mean the tunneling between hosts, tfukushima ? | 15:24 |
tfukushima | Yes, GRE andVXLAN. | 15:24 |
apuimedo | oh well... I would appreciate if we put some docs in the repo for each binding/vendor that we support | 15:25 |
apuimedo | explaining how to set it up | 15:25 |
gsagie | I am more interested how we do it in Kuryr side, given that there is a Neutron solution deployed at both hosts what is needed in Kuryr? | 15:25 |
apuimedo | gsagie: kuryr had to be configured in global mode, which vikasc rightly spotted | 15:25 |
gsagie | apuimedo: isnt the tunneling just a Neutron specific implementation? | 15:25 |
apuimedo | and docker had to point to the kv in both machines | 15:26 |
gsagie | it needs to work regardless if we have containers or not | 15:26 |
banix | gsagie: with OVS, nothing beyond the binding is needed on the Kuryr side | 15:26 |
apuimedo | gsagie: it is, that's why tfukushima said it was a midonet thing that he had to address | 15:26 |
gsagie | ok, and just to understand we running one kuryr server in this case? | 15:26 |
apuimedo | gsagie: no. Always one per host | 15:27 |
vikasc_ | apuimedo, true | 15:27 |
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gsagie | ok, so you added code that knows to recognize the same network for example and not re-create it in Neutron and so on in order to implement this | 15:28 |
apuimedo | gsagie: that's handled by docker | 15:28 |
apuimedo | recently | 15:28 |
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apuimedo | before Taku had to make a patch to prevent the re-creation | 15:28 |
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apuimedo | but they fixed the propagation | 15:28 |
tfukushima | Instead, the networks are shared through the distributed datastore. | 15:29 |
gsagie | ahh ok, so basically its mostly testing ? | 15:29 |
gsagie | in Kuryr part | 15:29 |
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vikasc_ | tfukushima, currently we running independent neutron on each node? | 15:30 |
gsagie | it has to be the same neutron | 15:30 |
banix | vikasc_: no one neutron service | 15:30 |
apuimedo | #topic open discussion vikasc_ you could, but for most deployments a single neutron server would be the norm | 15:30 |
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apuimedo | (you can put more behind ha) | 15:30 |
apuimedo | oops | 15:31 |
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gsagie | :) | 15:31 |
apuimedo | wrong command | 15:31 |
tfukushima | vikasc_: No. Every Kuryr agent points to the same Neutron API in my setting. | 15:31 |
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apuimedo | #topic still multi-node | 15:31 |
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vikasc_ | tfukushima, got it | 15:31 |
apuimedo | ok. let's move on | 15:31 |
gsagie | k | 15:32 |
apuimedo | tfukushima: did you give any look at connecting to existing nets? | 15:32 |
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apuimedo | (existing neutron nets) | 15:32 |
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tfukushima | apuimedo: No, not yet. | 15:32 |
apuimedo | ok ;-) | 15:32 |
tfukushima | Before that, we need to solve the IPAM and the API change in 1.9.0. | 15:32 |
apuimedo | true | 15:33 |
tfukushima | That's a huge gap for now. | 15:33 |
apuimedo | #topic stabilization | 15:33 |
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vikasc_ | i am working on null ipam driver , will be pushing for review soon | 15:33 |
apuimedo | tfukushima: please, list the missing parts | 15:33 |
apuimedo | #info vikasc_ is working on a null ipam driver | 15:33 |
apuimedo | thanks vikasc_ ! | 15:33 |
tfukushima | 1. IPv4Data and IPv6Data in the request of /NetworkDriver.CreateNetwork | 15:34 |
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banix | vikasc_: does that make it possible to use kuryr as is? | 15:34 |
tfukushima | 2. Doing something for IPAM driver (Vikas is already working probably) | 15:34 |
vikasc_ | yes banix | 15:34 |
banix | vikasc_: great | 15:35 |
vikasc_ | yes | 15:35 |
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vikasc_ | our existing changes will make sense | 15:35 |
tfukushima | 3. /NetworkDriver.DiscoverNew and /NetworkDriver.DiscoverDelete (banix is looking at them?) | 15:35 |
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banix | tfukushima: yes | 15:35 |
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tfukushima | I'm working on 1. now. It's taking some time because it's a big internal change. | 15:36 |
vikasc_ | working on 2 | 15:36 |
tfukushima | So I'm modifying Kuryr to allocate subnets on creating the Docker network instead of on creating endpoints. | 15:37 |
apuimedo | #info tfukushima working on IPv4Data and IPv6Data in /NetworkDriver.CreateNetwork requests | 15:37 |
apuimedo | tfukushima that's a welcome change :-) | 15:37 |
tfukushima | Yes indeed. But they should have that in the first place. | 15:38 |
apuimedo | yeah | 15:38 |
vikasc_ | we have to dance to their(docker) tunes :) | 15:38 |
apuimedo | #info banix working on /NetworkDriver.DiscoverNew and /NetworkDriver.DiscoverDelete | 15:38 |
apuimedo | vikasc_ indeed | 15:39 |
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apuimedo | #topic open discussion | 15:39 |
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apuimedo | does anybody have another topic to bring up? | 15:39 |
apuimedo | remember that next week we run the meeting in the alternate time | 15:40 |
vikasc_ | external connectivity | 15:40 |
apuimedo | I guess banix will chair it | 15:40 |
apuimedo | vikasc_: can you give more context (for logging purposes)? | 15:40 |
tfukushima | #link external network connectivity blue print https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kuryr/+spec/external-network-connectivity | 15:41 |
banix | apuimedo: sure | 15:41 |
vikasc_ | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kuryr/+spec/external-network-connectivity | 15:41 |
apuimedo | thanks tfukushima, vikasc_ | 15:41 |
apuimedo | #action apuimedo to review the external network connectivity blueprint | 15:41 |
gsagie | same | 15:41 |
apuimedo | sorry vikasc_. I didn't get around to it yet | 15:41 |
gsagie | its about creating the virtual router right? | 15:41 |
apuimedo | let's discuss it online during the week | 15:42 |
vikasc_ | sure | 15:42 |
vikasc_ | gsagie, yes | 15:42 |
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apuimedo | (and of course we can discuss a bit now if more people have the right context) | 15:42 |
gsagie | vikasc_ : i think we need to imitate what magnum are doing | 15:42 |
gsagie | or at least be close to their implementation | 15:42 |
vikasc_ | gsagie, yes Gal | 15:42 |
gsagie | You already have the design ready in the blue print? | 15:43 |
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vikasc_ | High level choices i have mentioned there on bp | 15:43 |
gsagie | i will make sure to go over it and give you feedback | 15:43 |
tfukushima | gsagie: Could you give us the link of what Magnum is doing? | 15:43 |
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gsagie | tfukushima: dont have it, i need to search it up and look | 15:44 |
vikasc_ | gsagie, thanks | 15:44 |
apuimedo | about blueprints. (and sorry for going a bit off-topic) We should define what deserves a spec and what a blueprint | 15:44 |
tfukushima | Ok. I'll search it. | 15:44 |
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gsagie | going back to the multinode, does this mean that we have full integration with Swarm, or something else needs to be done? | 15:45 |
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vikasc_ | gsagie, tfukushima through heat templates they create router and their and plumb external networking | 15:45 |
vikasc_ | i have little idea baout that | 15:45 |
vikasc_ | *about | 15:45 |
gsagie | vikasc_ : will take a look and we can talk about it online | 15:46 |
vikasc_ | gsagie, thanks gal | 15:46 |
gsagie | you can always also talk with danyeon from the Magnum team about it | 15:46 |
tfukushima | gsagie: It's basically the same as the default overlay driver. So probably yes although I've never tried anything with Swarm. | 15:46 |
tfukushima | But again, Kuryr is lacking the compatibility with the latest libnetwork. | 15:47 |
apuimedo | I'll be trying swarm with kuryr this week | 15:47 |
gsagie | yeah assuming we stabilize it with latest libnetwork | 15:48 |
gsagie | ok thanks | 15:48 |
apuimedo | yes. | 15:48 |
apuimedo | Any other topic? | 15:48 |
apuimedo | alright. Thank you all for the meeting and let's see if the EMEA folks are able to be on the next meeting :-) | 15:49 |
apuimedo | #endmeeting | 15:49 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 9 15:49:41 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:49 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2015/kuryr.2015-11-09-15.00.html | 15:49 |
gsagie | thanks everyone! | 15:49 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2015/kuryr.2015-11-09-15.00.txt | 15:49 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2015/kuryr.2015-11-09-15.00.log.html | 15:49 |
banix | thank you | 15:49 |
tfukushima | Thans. The next meeting will be at 3:00 UTC on November 17th. | 15:50 |
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Sukhdev | Hey Ironic-Neutron folks - it is meeting time | 16:00 |
jroll | mornin' | 16:00 |
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Sukhdev | jroll : good morning | 16:01 |
Sukhdev | time to get started | 16:01 |
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Sukhdev | #startmeeting ironic_neutron | 16:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 9 16:01:54 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic_neutron' | 16:02 |
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jroll | \o | 16:02 |
Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:02 |
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Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron#Agenda | 16:02 |
Sukhdev | This is our first meeting after the summit as well as time change | 16:02 |
Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements: | 16:03 |
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Sukhdev | hope everybody is back and over their jet-lags | 16:04 |
sambetts | nearly there :) | 16:04 |
Sukhdev | sambetts: I got back on Saturday - still fighting it :-) | 16:05 |
sambetts | Sukhdev: good luck :) | 16:06 |
Sukhdev | The summit was hectic, but, productive - lots of interest in the work that we are trying to do here | 16:06 |
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Sukhdev | Anybody has any announcements - before we dive into agenda? | 16:07 |
* jroll does not | 16:07 | |
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* sambetts also does not | 16:08 | |
Sukhdev | lets get going in that case | 16:08 |
Sukhdev | #topic: Integration status | 16:08 |
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Sukhdev | I updated the etherpad last night to reflect the latest status of our testing | 16:08 |
Sukhdev | #link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-neutron-mid-cycle | 16:08 |
Sukhdev | most of the critical items are under control - | 16:09 |
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Sukhdev | if you look at the list of issues - only 7,9, and 10 remain to be addressed | 16:09 |
sambetts | 2 ? | 16:09 |
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Sukhdev | sambetts : you are correct my bad - I missed that one | 16:10 |
sambetts | :) | 16:11 |
Sukhdev | sambetts : we have a work around for that - hence, did not strike me when I was looking at it last night - sorry about that | 16:11 |
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sambetts | :) no problems | 16:11 |
Sukhdev | at this point, if somebody wanted to play with the code, they actually could | 16:12 |
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Sukhdev | yhvh : are you here? | 16:12 |
jroll | is there documentation for setting this up in devstack for testing? | 16:13 |
Sukhdev | jroll : that was one of the items that I wanted to cover under documentation - | 16:14 |
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Sukhdev | there are two items that I wanted to cover today - | 16:15 |
jroll | okay | 16:15 |
Sukhdev | 1) CI - i.e. testing | 16:15 |
Sukhdev | 2) documentation | 16:15 |
Sukhdev | lazy_prince is not here - he had kicked off some work on the CI | 16:16 |
Sukhdev | I was hoping he will provide us some feedback on this | 16:17 |
Sukhdev | in his absence, we can skip the CI part and move to documentation - | 16:18 |
sambetts | For the devstack senario are we going to modify the ovs/linux bridged ml2 drivers to support plumbing the ssh driver nodes? | 16:18 |
Sukhdev | sambetts : that is what lazy_prince was looking into and I was hoping he will chime in | 16:20 |
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Sukhdev | so, there are two parts to this - one ties into the CI and other ties into the documentation | 16:21 |
Sukhdev | i.e. how do we make sure all the tests are going to pass/work with this code in the baseline - and, second, | 16:22 |
Sukhdev | what one has to do to use it | 16:22 |
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Sukhdev | in order to avoid double work, I will ping lazy_prince off line and see if he has made any headways or have any thoughts as to how to go about it | 16:25 |
Sukhdev | then accordingly, we can jump in help with what ever is needed to get this going - | 16:26 |
Sukhdev | I am sure this will be a blocker for the patches to be merged | 16:26 |
Sukhdev | I do not have much to add to it - | 16:27 |
Sukhdev | jroll : your thoughts? | 16:27 |
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jroll | Sukhdev: on what, specifically? | 16:27 |
jroll | we need CI, we need docs | 16:27 |
jroll | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 16:27 |
jroll | that's really all I have to say about it | 16:27 |
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Sukhdev | jroll : I meant the approach | 16:27 |
yhvh | sorry here | 16:28 |
Sukhdev | no disagreement as to we need both - | 16:28 |
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jroll | Sukhdev: the only approach I see is you will ping lazy_prince offline | 16:28 |
Sukhdev | correct - I was asking if you have anything to add to it? | 16:29 |
Sukhdev | yhvh : welcome | 16:29 |
jroll | I don't think so, no | 16:29 |
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Sukhdev | yhvh : hope you are well rested and out of jet-lag | 16:30 |
yhvh | yup after monday was ok | 16:30 |
Sukhdev | yhvh : there are couple of items in the issues section ( 9 and 10) that you were looking at prior to summit - wonder if you have any update? | 16:31 |
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yhvh | this are done and pushed to gerrit | 16:31 |
yhvh | I will strike out now | 16:31 |
Sukhdev | yhvh : cool - thanks | 16:32 |
Sukhdev | that leads to the documentation | 16:32 |
Sukhdev | #topic: Documentation | 16:32 |
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jroll | Sukhdev: I need to step away for the rest of the meeting, sorry - ping me offline if there's anything you need from me | 16:33 |
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Sukhdev | I have an action item to work on the ML2 documentation - which I will pick up this week | 16:33 |
Sukhdev | jroll : will do - thanks | 16:33 |
Sukhdev | carmello pushed a patch for the Ironic side of documentation - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228496 | 16:34 |
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yhvh | He has more changes in response to comments | 16:34 |
Sukhdev | The question is where do we want to document the devstack related documentation? | 16:35 |
yhvh | Ironic carries devstack instructions no? | 16:35 |
Sukhdev | yhvh : yup - he did - it is looking much better | 16:35 |
yhvh | Sukhdev: there are more updates (docs and code) coming, we have been trying to keep the number of updates to a min | 16:36 |
Sukhdev | yhvh : I did not think so - but, I have not seen the latest one since the summit | 16:36 |
Sukhdev | yhvh : oh I see - | 16:36 |
yhvh | I am thinking of this I think http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ironic/dev/dev-quickstart.html#deploying-ironic-with-devstack | 16:37 |
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Sukhdev | yhvh : correct - but, we have been making some local changes to use devstack to work with new feature | 16:39 |
Sukhdev | for example disable installation of the python-ironicclient | 16:39 |
Sukhdev | yhvh : come to think, if the python-ironicclient code is released, then this may not be needed | 16:41 |
yhvh | yeah it's been good since early sept | 16:42 |
Sukhdev | yhvh : barring those couple of issues that I mentioned earlier | 16:42 |
yhvh | :P they were bugs in ironic but became manifest in the cli :B | 16:43 |
yhvh | so the cli code hasn't changed since september | 16:43 |
yhvh | :) | 16:43 |
Sukhdev | correct - they seem to give the feeling as cli has issue | 16:44 |
Sukhdev | Perhaps if we address the CI issue, we may not need any specific documentation for devstack per se | 16:45 |
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Sukhdev | sambetts : do you agree? | 16:45 |
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Sukhdev | #action : Sukhdev to follow up with lazy_prince on the CI related enhancement | 16:46 |
sambetts | I think that one will definatly help solve the other | 16:46 |
Sukhdev | I will follow up with lazy_prince | 16:47 |
Sukhdev | anything else? | 16:48 |
Sukhdev | #topic: Open Discussion | 16:48 |
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Sukhdev | yhvh : I will look for the updated patches and test them as time permits | 16:48 |
Sukhdev | I do not have anything else - | 16:49 |
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Sukhdev | anybody wants to discuss anything else? | 16:49 |
yhvh | I want to pack as much as I can into each update, I have around 6 commits here addressing comments | 16:49 |
Sukhdev | yhvh : cool - thanks | 16:49 |
Sukhdev | will look for those | 16:50 |
Sukhdev | anything else ? | 16:50 |
* Sukhdev waiting | 16:50 | |
Sukhdev | OK - lets call it a day | 16:51 |
Sukhdev | Thanks everybody | 16:51 |
yhvh | thanks | 16:51 |
Sukhdev | bye | 16:51 |
Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 16:51 |
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*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:51 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 9 16:51:26 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:51 |
sambetts | Thanks o/ | 16:51 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2015/ironic_neutron.2015-11-09-16.01.html | 16:51 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2015/ironic_neutron.2015-11-09-16.01.txt | 16:51 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2015/ironic_neutron.2015-11-09-16.01.log.html | 16:51 |
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Sukhdev | Hello L2 GW folks | 17:05 |
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Sukhdev | anybody here for L2 GW meeting? | 17:05 |
Sukhdev | I do not see India foks | 17:05 |
cragusa | hi Sukhdev | 17:06 |
Sukhdev | cragusa : Hi | 17:06 |
Sukhdev | are you here for neutron-ironic meeting or L2 GW? | 17:07 |
cragusa | sorry got the time messed up! | 17:07 |
Sukhdev | cragusa : Neutron-Ironic meeting is already over - I was looking for you :-):-) | 17:08 |
cragusa | I'll pm you | 17:08 |
Sukhdev | cragusa: I knew change of time was going to mess up some folks - it happens all the times :-) | 17:08 |
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Sukhdev | In the absense of full quorum, I am going to cancel the meeting today | 17:10 |
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