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| eglute | #startmeeting defcore | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 22 15:00:34 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglute. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'defcore' | 15:00 |
| eglute | #chair zehicle | 15:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute zehicle | 15:00 |
| markvoelker | o/ | 15:00 |
| catherine_d|1 | o/ | 15:01 |
| eglute | Hello everyone, raise your hand if you are attending defcore meeting! | 15:01 |
| eglute | #chair zehicle_IRL | 15:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute zehicle zehicle_IRL | 15:01 |
| eglute | #topic agenda | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 15:01 | |
| zehicle_IRL | o/ | 15:02 |
| markvoelker | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreFlag.9 | 15:02 |
| eglute | please review agenda and add/edit as appropriate | 15:02 |
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| eglute | #topic dinner with the board | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "dinner with the board (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 15:03 | |
| zehicle_IRL | I also added a link to the BoD report that we will send today | 15:03 |
| zehicle_IRL | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bx5A9tdaL4mIHXehdfgptqxhH-tzjUP6CZY3IBHyn9I/edit# | 15:04 |
| eglute | midcycle attendees are invited to dinner with the foundation board the day before midcycle | 15:04 |
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| eglute | on July 28th, 5:00-6:30 pm, at Banger’s Sausage House & Beer Garden http://bangersaustin.com/ | 15:05 |
| eglute | Following the dinner the local Austin user group folks will join us for an informal happy hour to mingle and toast OpenStack’s 5th Birthday. | 15:05 |
| eglute | #topic summit proposals | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "summit proposals (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 15:05 | |
| eglute | we submitted couple proposals for Tokyo, I think voting should be starting soon, be on the lookout | 15:06 |
| eglute | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tokyo-defcore-talks | 15:06 |
| zehicle_IRL | +1 thanks for the help in that meeting - I think the sessions turned out well! | 15:06 |
| eglute | i think so too! I am looking forward to them | 15:06 |
| eglute | hope people vote for them! | 15:07 |
| eglute | #topic midcycle | 15:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "midcycle (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 15:07 | |
| eglute | MidCycle next week! if you have not entered your name yet on the wiki, please do so: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreFlag.MidCycle | 15:08 |
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| eglute | do we really have only 4 people attending this current meeting? | 15:08 |
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| zehicle_IRL | OSCON? | 15:09 |
| eglute | cause if so, i am not sure we have enough attendance to continue | 15:09 |
| zehicle_IRL | I think that we need to make sure the BoD report has a review | 15:09 |
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| eglute | that is the next item on the agenda | 15:10 |
| markvoelker | eglute: agenda is pretty thin this week and most of what's left is reviews anyway. I think we can plod forward. | 15:10 |
| zehicle_IRL | thanks | 15:10 |
| zehicle_IRL | +1 | 15:10 |
| eglute | #topic board report review | 15:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "board report review (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 15:10 | |
| eglute | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bx5A9tdaL4mIHXehdfgptqxhH-tzjUP6CZY3IBHyn9I/edit?usp=sharing | 15:10 |
| eglute | please review- we need your feedback before sending this out | 15:11 |
| zehicle_IRL | I'm working on a table to show changes from 2015.05 and 2015.07 due to the subcategories | 15:12 |
| zehicle_IRL | I was not planning to detail the schema changes :P | 15:12 |
| markvoelker | eglute: zehicle_IRL: in the "hot topics" section, I think a couple of our stated priorities from https://github.com/openstack/defcore/blob/master/doc/source/process/ProcessCycles.rst#objectives-4 are not mentioned | 15:12 |
| markvoelker | Might be good to highlight that we made progress on documenting the test flagging process | 15:13 |
| zehicle_IRL | reviewing, thanks | 15:13 |
| eglute | markvoelker thanks, will review | 15:13 |
| eglute | this is why need your help :) | 15:13 |
| eglute | also, under executive summary we have this: | 15:14 |
| eglute | It will ultimately come back to the Board to either tighten requirements to improve operability or adapt DefCore to allow incompatible implementations of OpenStack to be certified as interoperable. | 15:14 |
| eglute | what do you think? | 15:14 |
| catherine_d|1 | I will double check the new capability names in the 2015.07 section .. | 15:15 |
| eglute | thank you catherine_d|1 | 15:15 |
| eglute | markvoelker yes, the flagging process needs to be added | 15:16 |
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| zehicle_IRL | thank catherine_d|1 | 15:18 |
| zehicle_IRL | I'm seeing compute-flavors as a hanging chad | 15:18 |
| * eglute wonders what chad is | 15:18 | |
| * eglute looks up chad: a piece of waste material removed from card or tape by punching. | 15:19 | |
| eglute | zehicle_IRL what do you propose for compute-flavors then | 15:20 |
| markvoelker | eglute: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad_(paper)#History < a remnant of a presidential election 15 years ago | 15:20 |
| SamD | you beat me to the wiki link! :-D | 15:21 |
| eglute | hah | 15:21 |
| eglute | hello SamD! | 15:21 |
| hogepodge | o/ | 15:22 |
| zehicle_IRL | eglute, I'm trying to figure that out | 15:22 |
| eglute | we are reviewing board report right now, #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bx5A9tdaL4mIHXehdfgptqxhH-tzjUP6CZY3IBHyn9I/edit?usp=sharing | 15:22 |
| eglute | hello hogepodge! | 15:22 |
| zehicle_IRL | hogepodge, do you know how compute-flavors was changed in the new capabilities? | 15:23 |
| zehicle_IRL | that's the only one I cannot figure out how to remap | 15:23 |
| zehicle_IRL | nm, I think it because compute-servers-list | 15:23 |
| zehicle_IRL | please verify | 15:24 |
| hogepodge | zehicle_IRL: I'll check | 15:24 |
| catherine_d|1 | zehicle_IRL: eglute: just want to confirm that the capabilities listed in 2015.07 are the new capabilities names for the current must-pass tests ...? | 15:24 |
| eglute | catherine_d|1 they should be, but please check | 15:24 |
| catherine_d|1 | yes | 15:24 |
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| zehicle_IRL | I think we're in good shape now :) | 15:27 |
| zehicle_IRL | thanks everyone for help on BoD Report review | 15:27 |
| hogepodge | zehicle_IRL: afaik compute-flavors never had any tests | 15:27 |
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| catherine_d|1 | zehicle_IRL: eglute: give me until this afternoon for checking the new capability names for all current must-pass tests | 15:28 |
| zehicle_IRL | OMG - you are right | 15:28 |
| eglute | catherine_d|1: thans! | 15:28 |
| eglute | yes, will wait | 15:28 |
| hogepodge | zehicle_IRL: so we should leave the capability and try to write some, imo | 15:28 |
| zehicle_IRL | it looks like we've fixed that problem then | 15:28 |
| eglute | also, we need your help reviewing this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203474/ | 15:28 |
| catherine_d|1 | hogepodge:the compute-flaover tests were in compute-servers | 15:29 |
| zehicle_IRL | there are flavor tests in the compute-servers-list capability | 15:29 |
| eglute | #topic 2015.7 guidelines | 15:29 |
| catherine_d|1 | based on havana mapping | 15:29 |
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| zehicle_IRL | I think we are OK | 15:29 |
| zehicle_IRL | this is exactly why we wanted the cleanup | 15:29 |
| catherine_d|1 | wewill fix it this time | 15:29 |
| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203474/ | 15:29 |
| zehicle_IRL | eglute, +1 on topic | 15:29 |
| hogepodge | catherine_d|1: whats the fix? | 15:29 |
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| zehicle_IRL | I'll need to reconcile that with RST link patch (#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202833/) if that merges | 15:30 |
| catherine_d|1 | move the flavor test out ... what I will do in double check of the name staring from testid ... | 15:30 |
| eglute | zehicle_IRL what do we need to get that merged? markvoelker? | 15:31 |
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| zehicle_IRL | I think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202833/ is ready to go | 15:31 |
| zehicle_IRL | then I'll just remove that part from the 2015.07 patch | 15:31 |
| * markvoelker looks | 15:31 | |
| * eglute waits for markvoelker +1 | 15:32 | |
| zehicle_IRL | I had to add some omitted project fields to the original guideline | 15:32 |
| zehicle_IRL | the generator flagged that we'd missed them i those cases | 15:32 |
| markvoelker | Oh that one...I left some comments on it this morning. Wasn't sure if the project fields you added were accidental or not...if not I'd have expected to see them added in the other Guidelines that were missing them too? | 15:33 |
| zehicle_IRL | they were in the others | 15:33 |
| zehicle_IRL | not sure why we missed those | 15:33 |
| markvoelker | No they weren't. =) See comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202833/4/2015.03.json | 15:33 |
| zehicle_IRL | oh - I wonder why the generator did not object then | 15:33 |
| markvoelker | They were missing in at least 2015.04 too.... | 15:33 |
| zehicle_IRL | ok | 15:34 |
| markvoelker | Don't think I checked past that | 15:34 |
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| zehicle_IRL | ok, I'll can fix for other guidelines. | 15:34 |
| markvoelker | zehicle_IRL: Ok. Out of curiosity, why the change to the generator (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202833/4/tools/jsonToRst.py)? | 15:35 |
| zehicle_IRL | checking | 15:36 |
| zehicle_IRL | the 2015.next did not have "name" as a field and it was breaking | 15:36 |
| zehicle_IRL | we never gave the capabilities "friendly" names | 15:37 |
| zehicle_IRL | and in recent experience, doing so would actually be harmful | 15:37 |
| zehicle_IRL | so, removed the code that looked up name | 15:37 |
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| zehicle_IRL | also removed the caps code for the same reason | 15:37 |
| zehicle_IRL | markvoelker, that answer your question> | 15:38 |
| zehicle_IRL | ? | 15:38 |
| markvoelker | I think so. Did we break schema in .next then though? | 15:39 |
| markvoelker | That would be ok since it's bumped to schema 1.3 anyway, but thought we'd had it backward-compatible. Oh well. =) | 15:39 |
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| zehicle_IRL | .next change to 1.3 and hogepodge used a generator to update it | 15:40 |
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| zehicle_IRL | the generator was hiding the missed field - my changed exposed that | 15:41 |
| hogepodge | markvoelker: zehicle_IRL: want me to work up a patch to fix it? | 15:41 |
| zehicle_IRL | I've got it | 15:41 |
| hogepodge | zehicle_IRL: ok | 15:41 |
| eglute | we still have a few other patches to review | 15:42 |
| zehicle_IRL | patch updated | 15:43 |
| * eglute looking | 15:43 | |
| markvoelker | zehicle_IRL: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202833/5/2015.05.json < "volume" capability is "project":"glance"? | 15:44 |
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| zehicle_IRL | does everyone think we can get reviews (+1s) on the 2015.07 patch today? | 15:45 |
| zehicle_IRL | -1s too if you have them! | 15:45 |
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| zehicle_IRL | goal is to have this wrapped for BoD review. we don't want to go into the meeting w/ issues | 15:45 |
| hogepodge | zehicle_IRL: yes, I can squeeze it in between other things happening today. I have some time before 11 am | 15:45 |
| * markvoelker notes that gerrit is a little flaky today, possibly due to the zuul trouble this morning | 15:46 | |
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| eglute | markvoelker good catch on glance/volume | 15:46 |
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| markvoelker | I'll continue to review (as much as gerrit lets me) | 15:47 |
| markvoelker | I glanced through a couple of others this morning. zehicle_IRL: I think this one can be abandoned: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200939/ | 15:47 |
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| eglute | also please review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203475/ | 15:47 |
| markvoelker | The rule it adds is already present | 15:47 |
| markvoelker | (see comment in gerrit) | 15:48 |
| zehicle_IRL | strange - that an error | 15:49 |
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| zehicle_IRL | the original rule was above we we could remove flags | 15:49 |
| zehicle_IRL | the original rule in the patch | 15:49 |
| * markvoelker would look if he could be gerrit is throwing Server Unavailable errors at the moment | 15:50 | |
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| zehicle_IRL | :( | 15:50 |
| zehicle_IRL | I'll check and see what happened | 15:50 |
| zehicle_IRL | the intent of that patch was to make sure we did not remove a flag that we'd granted | 15:51 |
| eglute | i looked at that yesterday, it needs patch anyways, at least in numbering | 15:51 |
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| zehicle_IRL | because it would be unfair | 15:51 |
| eglute | +1 | 15:51 |
| zehicle_IRL | I likely goofed on the cut and paste | 15:51 |
| hogepodge | zehicle_IRL: +1 | 15:52 |
| zehicle_IRL | markvoelker, thanks. fixed volume to "cinder" | 15:53 |
| zehicle_IRL | that capability is removed w/ no tests. so the generator ignores it. | 15:54 |
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| eglute | I have to leave early today, zehicle_IRL will you finish up the meeting? | 15:54 |
| markvoelker | I thnk we can just end now and take discussion back to #openstack-defcore. | 15:54 |
| zehicle_IRL | please add me to the meeting moderators | 15:55 |
| zehicle_IRL | so I can close it | 15:55 |
| eglute | #chair zehicle_IRL | 15:55 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute zehicle zehicle_IRL | 15:55 |
| zehicle_IRL | thanks eglute | 15:55 |
| zehicle_IRL | #topic general topics? | 15:56 |
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| zehicle_IRL | any other items to bring up? | 15:56 |
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| zehicle_IRL | I''m looking forward to seeing most of you next week | 15:56 |
| zehicle_IRL | #action rob to make a dinner reservation for Wed. | 15:57 |
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| zehicle_IRL | last call.... | 15:57 |
| * markvoelker will miss beers w/the Board on account of having made travel plans before the invite and not arriving until 9ish | 15:57 | |
| hogepodge | zehicle_IRL: most of us? ;-) | 15:58 |
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| zehicle_IRL | hogepodge, read it how you want | 15:58 |
| hogepodge | :-D | 15:58 |
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| hogepodge | refstack demo at board meeting | 15:58 |
| * zehicle_IRL mostly looking forward to meeting | 15:58 | |
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| hogepodge | catherine_d|1: is setting that up | 15:59 |
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| zehicle_IRL | hogepodge, did you get that on the agenda as a stand a long item or should I include it in our report? | 15:59 |
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| hogepodge | I thought it was part of defcore report | 15:59 |
| hogepodge | let's coordinate and make sure we have time | 16:00 |
| zehicle_IRL | cool, I'll make sure it's there | 16:00 |
| zehicle_IRL | I think we are OK on time | 16:00 |
| hogepodge | catherine_d|1: ^^ | 16:00 |
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| jmccarthy | o/ | 16:00 |
| catherine_d|1 | hogepodge: we should meet to go through the flow of the demo before that .. | 16:00 |
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| zehicle_IRL | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 22 16:01:33 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2015/defcore.2015-07-22-15.00.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2015/defcore.2015-07-22-15.00.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2015/defcore.2015-07-22-15.00.log.html | 16:01 |
| rhallisey | #startmeeting kolla | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 22 16:02:01 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhallisey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 16:02 |
| rhallisey | #topic rollcall | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:02 | |
| rhallisey | hello everyone | 16:02 |
| jmccarthy | o/ | 16:02 |
| coolsvap | hello | 16:02 |
| pbourke | hi | 16:02 |
| vbel | hi | 16:02 |
| bmace | hi | 16:02 |
| rhallisey | who's excited for the mid cycle! | 16:03 |
| rhallisey | :) | 16:03 |
| * bmace raises hand | 16:03 | |
| inc0 | uhh...the excitement... | 16:03 |
| * coolsvap remotely | 16:03 | |
| inc0 | I mean...uau... | 16:03 |
| inc0 | yay | 16:03 |
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| rhallisey | I think remote will still be good | 16:04 |
| mstachow | o/ | 16:04 |
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| rhallisey | sdake got a few microphones so it should work just gine | 16:04 |
| rhallisey | fine* | 16:04 |
| rhallisey | #topic Announcements | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:05 | |
| rhallisey | ok so mid cycle is next week | 16:05 |
| rhallisey | tue wed everyone should have their calendars marked :) | 16:05 |
| rhallisey | also, liberty is coming to a close | 16:05 |
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| rhallisey | so be sure to give it a good last push to get anything left hanging in | 16:06 |
| rhallisey | #topic Liberty-2 planning | 16:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Liberty-2 planning (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:06 | |
| rhallisey | #link https://launchpad.net/kolla/+milestone/liberty-2 | 16:06 |
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| rhallisey | so anything there that hasn't been started I'm going to push to l-3 | 16:07 |
| rhallisey | with the exception of the essential bps | 16:07 |
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| rhallisey | just based of who's here I'll go through some if the bps we can cover | 16:08 |
| rhallisey | inc0, how's haproxy container? | 16:08 |
| rhallisey | I think you just need to recheck and it's merged correct? | 16:08 |
| rhallisey | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/haproxy-container | 16:08 |
| inc0 | zuul is still having problems | 16:08 |
| rhallisey | right | 16:09 |
| inc0 | its testing it right now...for 2hrs... | 16:09 |
| rhallisey | ok we'll wait and see then | 16:09 |
| inc0 | but yeah, as soon as pipe is clean it should merge | 16:10 |
| rhallisey | inc0, excellent nice job | 16:10 |
| rhallisey | jmccarthy, I saw you had a review for the swift container up | 16:10 |
| rhallisey | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/swift-container | 16:10 |
| rhallisey | jmccarthy, how's that progressing? | 16:11 |
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| rhallisey | looks like sdake has reviewed it and gave a +1 | 16:12 |
| rhallisey | I haven't yet, but given that swift is a tough container I give you credit for taking that on :) | 16:12 |
| rhallisey | I change the status to good progress | 16:13 |
| jmccarthy | Pretty good - memcached dependency I think is more or less sorted, there are some actions remaining for that bp captured in todo on etherpad | 16:13 |
| rhallisey | ah there you are | 16:13 |
| rhallisey | can you link the etherpad? | 16:13 |
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| bmace | i think the symlink thing from Martin is done? it says needs code review but i saw some changes go in on it and both of the reviews associated to the bp are merged. | 16:14 |
| jmccarthy | Sure, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-container-todo at the minute | 16:14 |
| rhallisey | bmace, let me 2x check | 16:15 |
| pbourke | yeah it looks like a couple are merged that are not marked as so | 16:15 |
| jmccarthy | I think some things that may not quite fit the timeframe will go into bugs (technical debt) to be followed up on | 16:15 |
| pbourke | I think we can close out the source one also once glance goes in | 16:16 |
| pbourke | that will be the last main service I afaik | 16:16 |
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| rhallisey | ok cool | 16:16 |
| rhallisey | inc0, you cool with me moving the OpenVswitch bp you have to l-3? | 16:18 |
| rhallisey | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/add-ovs-vsctl-tool-to-compute-images | 16:18 |
| rhallisey | inc0, or do you have an update? | 16:18 |
| mstachow | inc0 or mstachow :>? | 16:18 |
| rhallisey | it might be mstachow | 16:19 |
| rhallisey | I get you too confused | 16:19 |
| inc0 | I think mstachow ;) | 16:19 |
| mstachow | Yeah, It's ok :D | 16:19 |
| mstachow | np ;) | 16:19 |
| rhallisey | s/too/two | 16:19 |
| rhallisey | mstachow, do you think you can get that in for l-2? | 16:19 |
| rhallisey | or should I push it to l3 | 16:19 |
| inc0 | isn't it 1 liner? | 16:19 |
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| inc0 | (almost) | 16:20 |
| inc0 | or even change ovs container? | 16:20 |
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| mstachow | it's one liner | 16:20 |
| mstachow | I will try, but I won't promise | 16:20 |
| rhallisey | mstachow, ok. If it's a simple change I'll leave it around | 16:20 |
| mstachow | ok (: | 16:21 |
| rhallisey | looks like most of the essential bps do need reviews | 16:21 |
| rhallisey | so keep up the reviews. As we get closer to l2 it will be start to get more hectic to get these features in | 16:22 |
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| rhallisey | I definitely need to get more review out of my mornings | 16:22 |
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| rhallisey | overall nice job lots of purple for bps and lots of green for bugs | 16:23 |
| rhallisey | excellent | 16:23 |
| pbourke | honestly I think there is more green there than what is showing :) | 16:23 |
| bmace | agreed. | 16:23 |
| rhallisey | I'd buy it | 16:23 |
| pbourke | will go through the board in the morning and see what can be closed | 16:23 |
| bmace | just people not properly updating the bps when they are done | 16:23 |
| pbourke | unless someone else would like to before then | 16:23 |
| rhallisey | we can do it now | 16:24 |
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| rhallisey | problem is sam isn't around and he has half of them | 16:24 |
| rhallisey | but we can go through the links :) | 16:24 |
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| rhallisey | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/ansible-aio | 16:24 |
| bmace | some are hard if folks aren't around. i am almost certain the one from martin regarding links is done but wouldn't want to do it without his agreement. | 16:24 |
| coolsvap | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/gnocchi-containers | 16:25 |
| rhallisey | bmace, ya I'm looking through links some aren't 100% done, but like 90% | 16:25 |
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| rhallisey | coolsvap, ya that one will just need another +2 | 16:26 |
| coolsvap | rhallisey, yes | 16:26 |
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| rhallisey | bmace, ya martins is done | 16:26 |
| coolsvap | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/ceilometer-container | 16:26 |
| coolsvap | rhallisey, this is completed needs to be closed | 16:27 |
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| rhallisey | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/add-min-env-vars-gate | 16:27 |
| rhallisey | nice that looks a little better | 16:28 |
| rhallisey | plus haproxy is pretty much done too | 16:28 |
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| rhallisey | ok much better | 16:29 |
| rhallisey | #topic Mid-cycle session planning | 16:30 |
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| rhallisey | if anyone had any last minute details they would like to add to the scheduler | 16:30 |
| rhallisey | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-kolla-midcycle-planning | 16:30 |
| rhallisey | otherwise I have nothing to add | 16:30 |
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| inc0_ | 14 sessions is full 2 days | 16:31 |
| inc0_ | if we consider an hour per session | 16:31 |
| rhallisey | it will be action packed | 16:32 |
| rhallisey | :) | 16:32 |
| bmace | i think sdake mentioned a lot of folks leaving early the 2nd day, so it may not be a full day. | 16:32 |
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| rhallisey | yes that's correct | 16:32 |
| rhallisey | bmace, thanks for reminding me | 16:32 |
| bmace | plus, i don't know if these all really break out 1 for 1. like, 14 vs 14.1 could probably be a single topic | 16:32 |
| rhallisey | ya I think a lot of the fine tuning will be done on site | 16:33 |
| bmace | 13 / 13.1 are pretty much the same thing, etc. | 16:33 |
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| rhallisey | this is really just general brain storming of stuff to mention | 16:33 |
| rhallisey | but regarding travel on the 2nd day, I know I'm going to have to head back early | 16:34 |
| rhallisey | so if anyone else had that conflict it's not a problem | 16:34 |
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| rhallisey | #topic Open Discussion | 16:35 |
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| rhallisey | anyone got anything to bring up? | 16:35 |
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| rhallisey | I've been having a friend try kolla to get an outside opinion on setup. So you might see me patching the docs frequently | 16:35 |
| rhallisey | :) | 16:36 |
| inc0_ | we should have major revise of docs once ansible lands | 16:36 |
| bmace | awesome. | 16:36 |
| rhallisey | that would be good too | 16:36 |
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| rhallisey | well thanks for attending everyone! Nice job so far for l2 and keep up the good work! | 16:37 |
| rhallisey | #endmeeting kolla | 16:37 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 22 16:37:29 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-07-22-16.02.html | 16:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-07-22-16.02.txt | 16:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-07-22-16.02.log.html | 16:37 |
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| jokke_ | #startmeeting log_wg | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 22 20:00:34 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jokke_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'log_wg' | 20:00 |
| jokke_ | #topic attendance and courtecy calls | 20:00 |
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| bknudson | I'm here... I'm at the nova meetup | 20:01 |
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| jokke_ | rockyg, dhellman, johnthetubaguy, nkrinner | 20:01 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 20:01 |
| nkrinner | i'm here too. but only listening anyway and working on a unrelated bog currently too ;-( | 20:01 |
| jokke_ | hello everyone | 20:01 |
| nkrinner | hi all though :-) | 20:02 |
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| jokke_ | #topic action items | 20:02 |
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| jokke_ | so I haven't had time to check the empty field markers yet and I haven't herd back from Rocky if she got the incubator using list looked in so those items stays still in the list | 20:03 |
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| jokke_ | We have proposed talk around this working group to the Tokyo summit | 20:04 |
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| jokke_ | I do not know about any other talks around logging yet so let's keep eye out for those | 20:05 |
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| jokke_ | #topic Ongoing specs | 20:05 |
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| jokke_ | has anyone been following up the talk around the request Ids and could give quick update what's going on there? | 20:06 |
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| dhellmann | I confess I'm confused about the current state. I thought an approach was settled on, but it seems there were some issues with it, and I missed a bunch of the last meeting so I don't know the details | 20:07 |
| jokke_ | I'm unfortunately on the smae state myself | 20:07 |
| jokke_ | same | 20:08 |
| bknudson | there wasn't a meeting this week | 20:08 |
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| bknudson | so it'll be discussed on tuesday | 20:08 |
| jokke_ | bknudson: on X-project meeting? | 20:09 |
| dhellmann | last discussion was http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/crossproject/2015/crossproject.2015-07-14-21.01.log.html | 20:09 |
| bknudson | there was an approach that was easy to implement but then concerns were raised about it | 20:09 |
| bknudson | so the current approach requires rewriting all the libraries | 20:09 |
| dhellmann | there's an etherpad: | 20:09 |
| dhellmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/request-id | 20:09 |
| bknudson | so don't expect it to be done any time soon | 20:09 |
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| jokke_ | yeah that's what I was afraid as well | 20:10 |
| jokke_ | ok moving on | 20:11 |
| jokke_ | #topic ops midcycle planning | 20:12 |
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| bknudson | I'm not planning on being at the ops midcycle | 20:12 |
| bknudson | would have been nice if the ops midcycle was before the keystone & nova midcycles | 20:12 |
| jokke_ | dhellmann: you were going to be there and I think Rocky said she will be there as well. Is there something we should act on beforehand? | 20:12 |
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| jokke_ | I will not be able to attend either | 20:13 |
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| bknudson | where is it? | 20:13 |
| dhellmann | I'm planning to participate, but let the ops folks drive it | 20:13 |
| dhellmann | palo alto | 20:13 |
| dhellmann | https://www.eventbrite.com/e/openstack-ops-mid-cycle-meetup-tickets-17703258924 | 20:13 |
| dhellmann | session planning: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PAO-ops-meetup | 20:14 |
| jokke_ | #link https://www.eventbrite.com/e/openstack-ops-mid-cycle-meetup-tickets-17703258924 | 20:14 |
| bknudson | if ops don't complain about logs then I guess we're done. | 20:14 |
| jokke_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PAO-ops-meetup | 20:14 |
| jokke_ | bknudson: ++ | 20:14 |
| bknudson | "Matt Young <Matty@hp.com> - Monitoring and logging sessions" | 20:15 |
| bknudson | so maybe there's some sessions for it | 20:15 |
| jokke_ | sounds good | 20:15 |
| bknudson | the ops meetup is going to take over from the openstack summit. | 20:16 |
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| jokke_ | bknudson: what do mean by that? | 20:16 |
| bknudson | they've got their own lightning talks | 20:16 |
| jokke_ | aa | 20:16 |
| jokke_ | that's a good thing ... anything bringing the ops closer is improvement | 20:17 |
| jokke_ | anything else on this for now? | 20:18 |
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| dhellmann | I wish I knew if Rocky had anything planned | 20:19 |
| jokke_ | well we have well time to sync up still before | 20:20 |
| dhellmann | true | 20:20 |
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| jokke_ | so lets keep this topic in agenda for next week and see if we have some updates | 20:20 |
| jokke_ | #topic log_wg meeting time | 20:21 |
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| bknudson | this time works great for me. | 20:21 |
| jokke_ | is this time suitable for everyone currently here? | 20:21 |
| dhellmann | yes, it works ok for me | 20:22 |
| jokke_ | there was request at some point to have earlier slot for EMEA/APJ ... I'm fine with this, would not like to have any later at least | 20:22 |
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| jokke_ | I'll send e-mail out to the mailing list to check if there are still need for such, I think we can facilitate bi-weekly rotation if there is need for such. We rarely have anything burning that couldn't wait | 20:25 |
| dhellmann | ++ | 20:25 |
| Nikolay_St | jokke_: I'm ok with this time :) | 20:25 |
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| jokke_ | #action jokke_ will send e-mail to the mailing list probing if there is need for bi-weekly rotation of meeting time, otherwise we keep it as it is. | 20:26 |
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| jokke_ | #topic open discussion | 20:26 |
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| jokke_ | was there anything missing from agenda for this week? | 20:26 |
| * bknudson been busy with meetups | 20:26 | |
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| dhellmann | yeah, I've been busy with release stuff | 20:27 |
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| bknudson | we're a long ways from L release. | 20:27 |
| jokke_ | I've been busy with the next Helion release | 20:27 |
| dhellmann | bknudson: yeah, we have a bunch of tool work to get there, though, because of the changes we're making | 20:28 |
| jokke_ | bknudson: true, but not that far feature wise ... it's month and half to ff | 20:28 |
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| dhellmann | I would really like to see one specific initiative planned out for this group to push next cycle, and figure out a way to find some resources to actually work on the implementation. We should start talking about that now, so we have time to see if we can get summit session space (it will be more restricted than Vancouver) or at least start publicizing the plans so other teams can incorporate them in their planning. | 20:29 |
| jokke_ | dhellmann: I seriously like that | 20:30 |
| bknudson | what's restricted? the # of sessions? | 20:30 |
| bknudson | design summit sessions? | 20:30 |
| dhellmann | bknudson: yeah, there won't be as much space is all | 20:30 |
| dhellmann | at least that's my impression, we don't have a room count yet | 20:31 |
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| jokke_ | that's the impression I got from the Vancouver wrap-up session as well | 20:31 |
| bknudson | if we're depending on request ID then maybe we can help out with the impl | 20:32 |
| bknudson | at least I could help out with keystoneclient | 20:32 |
| dhellmann | that might be a good one | 20:33 |
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| bknudson | things probably haven't changed much since the last design summit session | 20:34 |
| dhellmann | no, I don't think that has made any real progress | 20:34 |
| jokke_ | Is there anything we can do to help the spec work? For me it kind of feels like there's a deadlock between couple of opinions how that should be done? | 20:35 |
| jokke_ | exactly | 20:35 |
| bknudson | I think the proposers are happy with rewriting all the clients. | 20:35 |
| dhellmann | are we waiting for prototypes to be written? | 20:35 |
| bknudson | a prototype would be nice | 20:35 |
| dhellmann | well, yeah, but would it? I mean, what do the folks who are blocking it actually want? | 20:36 |
| dhellmann | would a prototype help? | 20:36 |
| jokke_ | what I have understood is that the proposers are pretty much willing to start implementing any solution the community just agrees | 20:36 |
| bknudson | the folk blocking it wants the rewrite of all the clients, and nobody has a problem with it | 20:36 |
| dhellmann | is that just lifeless? | 20:36 |
| bknudson | y | 20:37 |
| bknudson | the proposers are fine with the amt of work. | 20:37 |
| dhellmann | wow, ok | 20:37 |
| dhellmann | so we just need the spec approved? | 20:37 |
| bknudson | I haven't looked at the spec. | 20:38 |
| bknudson | if it's been updated | 20:38 |
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| dhellmann | ok | 20:38 |
| bknudson | the spec hasn't been updated yet | 20:39 |
| bknudson | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156508/16/specs/return-request-id.rst | 20:39 |
| dhellmann | hmm | 20:39 |
| jokke_ | that does not help it moving forward :( | 20:39 |
| jokke_ | by the comment from lifeless it seems like POC has been agreed | 20:40 |
| jokke_ | so the prototype seems to be the way to go forward | 20:40 |
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| jokke_ | that has been two weeks ago | 20:41 |
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| jokke_ | anything else? | 20:44 |
| dhellmann | that's all I have this wek | 20:44 |
| bknudson | I don't have anything. | 20:44 |
| Nikolay_St | nothing from me | 20:45 |
| jokke_ | ok, thanks everyone, lets spend this extra 15min well :) | 20:45 |
| nkrinner | cu | 20:45 |
| jokke_ | #endmeeting | 20:45 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 22 20:45:22 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/log_wg/2015/log_wg.2015-07-22-20.00.html | 20:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/log_wg/2015/log_wg.2015-07-22-20.00.txt | 20:45 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/log_wg/2015/log_wg.2015-07-22-20.00.log.html | 20:45 |
| bknudson | thanks | 20:45 |
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