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| nikhil_k | Courtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, esheffield, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, ivasilevskaya, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, zhiyan, pkoniszewski, krykowski, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishekk | 14:00 |
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| nikhil_k | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 23 14:00:35 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is nikhil_k. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| ativelkov | o/ | 14:00 |
| krykowski | o/ | 14:00 |
| bpoulos | o/ | 14:00 |
| nikhil_k | #topic agenda | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| lakshmiS | o/ | 14:00 |
| mfedosin | o/ | 14:00 |
| nikhil_k | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:00 |
| dshakhray | o/ | 14:01 |
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| flaper87 | o/ | 14:01 |
| hemanthm | o/ | 14:02 |
| kragniz | o/ | 14:02 |
| agalkin | o/ | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | (ish) | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | really bad internet connection where I'm at right now | 14:02 |
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| rosmaita | o/ | 14:03 |
| nikhil_k | Thanks all for joining | 14:03 |
| nikhil_k | #topic Updates | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Updates (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:03 | |
| nikhil_k | #info mid-cycle | 14:03 |
| nikhil_k | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-glance-mid-cycle-meetup | 14:03 |
| nikhil_k | #info We will do a video+audio conf with co-located midcycle | 14:04 |
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| flaper87 | awesome | 14:04 |
| nikhil_k | #info This would be our virtual meetup too | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | is the info for that on the etherpad? | 14:04 |
| nikhil_k | #action all: please add your name timezone info against the session interested in | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | I'll try to be on-line... you know, TZs | 14:04 |
| nikhil_k | flaper87: ^ | 14:05 |
| nikhil_k | We have it spread over 3 days for remote convenience | 14:05 |
| nikhil_k | So that people from different tz can find it easier to get some face to face time | 14:05 |
| nikhil_k | For the rest of period we will do brainstorming + fun activities if not usual work | 14:06 |
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| jokke_ | o/ | 14:07 |
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| mclaren | Would having some v3 discussion be worthwhile? | 14:08 |
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| nikhil_k | sure, I have to add some more sessions. | 14:08 |
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| nikhil_k | mclaren: it would be most likely on thursday 30th | 14:08 |
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| mclaren | ok, cool. (Hopefully remote will work out ok for ativelkov and mfedosin) | 14:09 |
| mfedosin | we have a good Internet connection, so yes :) | 14:10 |
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| nikhil_k | So, to help schedule the time please add some tz info against your name on each topic interested. Also, if you have conflicts at specfic times/days that would help | 14:11 |
| malini_ | good morning | 14:11 |
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| nikhil_k | moving on | 14:12 |
| nikhil_k | #topic Glance Registry v2 and RPC calls | 14:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Glance Registry v2 and RPC calls (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:12 | |
| nikhil_k | flaper87: ^ | 14:12 |
| krykowski | thats me | 14:12 |
| krykowski | still digging through rolling upgrade issues, need some clarification | 14:12 |
| krykowski | do I understand correctly that registry-v2 service is not required in my setup to have fully working Glance? | 14:12 |
| mclaren | correct | 14:13 |
| krykowski | it's just used as an optional component in api for accesing data from the database using RPC calls instead of direct access to the database | 14:13 |
| krykowski | and despite registry service there are no other RPC communication in the Glance at all, right? | 14:13 |
| nikhil_k | yep | 14:13 |
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| nikhil_k | krykowski: there's a possibility of rpc conn when using tasks (that's optional too) | 14:14 |
| krykowski | great news, so I guess it will help a lot in performing rolling upgrades in Glance as we can setup only glance-api | 14:14 |
| nikhil_k | krykowski: in case of tasks, you can setup a set of glance-tasks nodes | 14:15 |
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| mclaren | krykowski: I think it's great someone is thinking about rolling upgrades, it's an important consideration, which maybe hasn't got the attention it deserves | 14:15 |
| nikhil_k | However, I think in that particular case I would think we don't need migration | 14:15 |
| sabari | o/ | 14:15 |
| krykowski | woah, is it documented anywhere so I can get a better understanding of it? | 14:15 |
| krykowski | I mean the glance-tasks service | 14:16 |
| nikhil_k | nope, because that happens proxy via taskflow | 14:16 |
| jokke_ | krykowski: obviously that means that you can actually consume v2 API only as v1 API still needs the registry | 14:16 |
| nikhil_k | krykowski: we can chat offline on that or better yet do it in the mid-cycle and identify if we are not going to touch tasks db-schema | 14:16 |
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| nikhil_k | flaper87: wanted to do some on the task info, but I think it would be a bad experience for a public cloud given the info fields can be gigantic | 14:18 |
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| nikhil_k | that was a tentative hint on the migration though | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | nikhil_k: oh I didn't want to do something on that, I was more asking why we had it | 14:18 |
| nikhil_k | flaper87: hush, glad to hear it | 14:19 |
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| nikhil_k | two conflicting qually qualified use cases for that migration would be a nightmare | 14:19 |
| nikhil_k | equally* | 14:19 |
| nikhil_k | krykowski: do you have more questions? | 14:21 |
| krykowski | nikhil_k: will ping you later about the tasks to better understand it | 14:21 |
| krykowski | nikhil_k: for now I'm fine | 14:21 |
| nikhil_k | thanks | 14:21 |
| nikhil_k | #topic api requests and the req-body | 14:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "api requests and the req-body (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:21 | |
| nikhil_k | bunting: ^ | 14:22 |
| bunting | Yeah, i am working on a bug, where if you provide a body to a http request when the api does not expect it it 500s | 14:22 |
| bunting | I am wondering what the expected responce should be | 14:22 |
| bunting | to ignore the body or return some error | 14:23 |
| jokke_ | bunting: you have a link for that bug? | 14:23 |
| bunting | https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1475647 | 14:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1475647 in Glance "Returns 500 if a body is included where not expected" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Niall Bunting (niall-bunting) | 14:23 |
| mclaren | kragniz: you had some wisdom on this? | 14:24 |
| nikhil_k | bunting: it's bad sematics to pass the body on verbs that ideally don't expect them | 14:24 |
| nikhil_k | bunting: but it's possible nonetheless | 14:24 |
| kragniz | mclaren: not so much, people seem to be split on what to do in this situation on other projects | 14:24 |
| kragniz | sigmavirus24: would probably have a good idea | 14:25 |
| sigmavirus24 | so | 14:25 |
| bunting | nikhil_k: Yeah, i imagine it is never a good idea to go down unexpected paths, as it could lead to future exploits or something | 14:25 |
| sigmavirus24 | 500 means the server fubar'd when what we want is to say "That was a bad request" | 14:25 |
| nikhil_k | bunting: so, I think the wsgi wrapper is possible not expecting that | 14:25 |
| kragniz | sigmavirus24: we certainly want to change it from a 500 | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | ++ | 14:26 |
| mclaren | ok, from memory, it's impossible for us not to read in the full body (wsgi will always read it in) | 14:26 |
| sigmavirus24 | That said, I looked at the review that bunting did for that bug and it looks like they were preventing against going down paths where we are expecting a body | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | mclaren: correct | 14:26 |
| sigmavirus24 | mclaren: right, because wsgi is terrible and everything should be written in Java ;) | 14:26 |
| mclaren | so we can either read it in and return 400 or read it in and ignore it | 14:26 |
| * jokke_ send cruise missile towards sigmavirus24's general location | 14:27 | |
| nikhil_k | I think body is read uptil a buffer before processing the api req | 14:27 |
| sigmavirus24 | Ah so that bug is different from the review I saw | 14:27 |
| mclaren | sigmavirus24: not Java ... [insert latest hipster language of your choice] ;-) | 14:27 |
| sigmavirus24 | mclaren: Java is Enterprise | 14:27 |
| sigmavirus24 | So for a GET like that | 14:27 |
| sigmavirus24 | I would say ignore it | 14:27 |
| jokke_ | I do not agree | 14:28 |
| sigmavirus24 | Ignore it and return a 200 even if that is a bad request | 14:28 |
| jokke_ | we should fain, not ignore for malformed requests | 14:28 |
| jokke_ | fail even | 14:28 |
| nikhil_k | well, we need to validate the body and not just ignore it | 14:28 |
| mclaren | I think ignoring it is probably consistent with some current requests that don't return 500 | 14:28 |
| nikhil_k | because it can be a dos possibility | 14:28 |
| sigmavirus24 | So GETs are /allowed/ to have bodies but semantically they have no meaning | 14:28 |
| sigmavirus24 | jokke_: so considering the RFCs around this, I would say that ignoring a body in a GET is perfectly valid | 14:29 |
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| sigmavirus24 | And in fact a load balancer/proxy would strip it out entirely if Glance were running behind it | 14:29 |
| malini_ | actually we should detect body, not read all of it -- that is a way of denial of service, quick say malformed. | 14:29 |
| mclaren | malini_: we don't have that option, as I mentioned | 14:29 |
| kragniz | malini_: we can't do that with the wsgi layer | 14:29 |
| nikhil_k | not yet | 14:30 |
| mclaren | the library that glance is wrapped in will helpfully read in the entire body (that's out of our control currently) | 14:30 |
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| mclaren | nikhil_k: is there a plan to change something there? | 14:30 |
| nikhil_k | but I agree, this is out of scope for glance given proxies can handle such validation | 14:31 |
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| nikhil_k | mclaren: nothing yet, some features are using wsme | 14:31 |
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| mclaren | I guess maybe pinging other projects to see if there is any rough consensus on unexpected bodies in openstack couldn't hurt | 14:31 |
| nikhil_k | good cpl topic jokke_ | 14:32 |
| nikhil_k | bunting: ^ | 14:32 |
| sigmavirus24 | mclaren: already talking in #openstack-api about this | 14:32 |
| mclaren | cool | 14:32 |
| sigmavirus24 | nikhil_k: so I wouldn't say that in order to run glance you need a proxy | 14:32 |
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| sigmavirus24 | That's certainly not something we've ever stated as being part of the ref architecture | 14:33 |
| sigmavirus24 | I'm merely pointing out that if someone *were* running glance behind such a service, they'd never see a 500 | 14:33 |
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| sigmavirus24 | And we can behave the same way | 14:33 |
| nikhil_k | sigmavirus24: yep, we can't madate it but it's out of scope for various reasons and having a proxy is good practice for other reasons too | 14:33 |
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| sigmavirus24 | Because it's reasonable as defined by the semantics in RFC 723[0-5] (because I can't remember specifically which) | 14:33 |
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| nikhil_k | like auth groups, endpoint validation, other custom headers validations | 14:34 |
| sigmavirus24 | Sure, but we should still DTRT here | 14:34 |
| kragniz | nikhil_k: we shouldn't assume people are running glance behind a proxy, though | 14:34 |
| nikhil_k | btw, everyone: it's already on the CPL meeting agenda next week jokke_ mclaren bunting sigmavirus24 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/CrossProjectMeeting | 14:34 |
| nikhil_k | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184358/ | 14:35 |
| jokke_ | good, so lets postpone any further discussion until we hear wider consensus? | 14:35 |
| nikhil_k | it's a good practice is all I have to say | 14:35 |
| bunting | Getting consensus from the other projects seems the best course of action for me | 14:36 |
| nikhil_k | bunting: do you mind starting a ML thread before that? | 14:37 |
| sigmavirus24 | nikhil_k: do you know the CPL meeting room/time by chance? | 14:37 |
| nikhil_k | sigmavirus24: Tuesdays @ #openstack-meeting 2100UTC (Weekly for 1 hour) | 14:37 |
| sabari | so elastic search api allows body in GET requests. So may be it's important in searchlight :) | 14:37 |
| sabari | https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/1.6/search-request-body.html | 14:37 |
| nikhil_k | sabari: yeah, it's bit different yet imp case ;) | 14:38 |
| sigmavirus24 | sabari: Good example | 14:38 |
| nikhil_k | Anyways, we should move one for now | 14:38 |
| sigmavirus24 | agreed | 14:38 |
| nikhil_k | #topic Reviews, Bugs and Releases | 14:38 |
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| nikhil_k | #info Prevent glance-api hangups during connection to rbd | 14:38 |
| mfedosin | it's mine | 14:39 |
| nikhil_k | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200554/ | 14:39 |
| sigmavirus24 | mfedosin: no it's ours =P You contributed it to the community ;) | 14:39 |
| sabari | haha | 14:39 |
| mfedosin | sigmavirus24, my topic | 14:39 |
| mfedosin | not a bug :) | 14:39 |
| bunting | nikhil_k: I will | 14:39 |
| mfedosin | flaper87, some time ago I mentioned about hangups in ceph | 14:40 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k: we need creative commons license header to the agenda etherpad :P | 14:40 |
| mfedosin | so the solution is obvious | 14:40 |
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| jokke_ | don't use it? | 14:40 |
| mfedosin | let's add licences in commit messages | 14:40 |
| sigmavirus24 | jokke_: lol | 14:40 |
| kragniz | jokke_: harsh | 14:41 |
| sigmavirus24 | Solution to hangups in ceph is to add licenses to commit messages... interesting | 14:41 |
| sigmavirus24 | Ceph truly is a mysterious and glorious beast | 14:41 |
| sigmavirus24 | =P | 14:41 |
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| mfedosin | sigmavirus24, stop trolling me :) | 14:41 |
| mfedosin | I'm laughing and can't write | 14:42 |
| mfedosin | so I have two questions about the commit | 14:42 |
| mfedosin | should I add some unit tests there | 14:42 |
| mfedosin | and should I add retries in our rbd driver? | 14:42 |
| mfedosin | folks in cinder do it not a long time ago | 14:43 |
| mfedosin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190579/8 | 14:43 |
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| nikhil_k | mfedosin: +1 on unit tests | 14:46 |
| sabari | +1 for unit tests. I think retrying connection is a good idea. | 14:46 |
| kragniz | mfedosin: I'd say yes on a retry, but I like retries | 14:46 |
| nikhil_k | I am not too sure about retries and if, how many. May be ask on operators channel | 14:46 |
| mfedosin | sabari, it can be another commit | 14:46 |
| jokke_ | 0 for the unit tests +1 for the retry, but I'm not convinced if the retry should happen on this change | 14:47 |
| sabari | the vmware store has a vmware_api_retry_count | 14:47 |
| kragniz | we have retries for the swift store, also | 14:47 |
| mfedosin | but ceph doesn't | 14:48 |
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| jokke_ | I think it's one of those things that would be nice to have, but it really does not fix this bug so I don't think it should be done in this change ;) | 14:49 |
| mfedosin | so I'm going to add some unit test on that change | 14:49 |
| sigmavirus24 | kragniz: did we merge swift retries? | 14:49 |
| sigmavirus24 | I forget now | 14:49 |
| sabari | jokke_ agree. | 14:49 |
| mfedosin | and then will try add reties | 14:49 |
| sigmavirus24 | mfedosin: maybe add retries as off by default? | 14:49 |
| mfedosin | sigmavirus24, yes | 14:50 |
| kragniz | sigmavirus24: before my time | 14:50 |
| malini__ | mfedosin, most such things have timeout interval and # of retries, and sensible defaults | 14:50 |
| mfedosin | sigmavirus24, agree. they can be switched off by default, but can be configured | 14:50 |
| sigmavirus24 | mfedosin: also, maybe if cinder and glance are doing rbd things like this, there will be other places this is necessary and it will be worth an oslo.rbd library =P | 14:50 |
| kragniz | sigmavirus24: https://github.com/openstack/glance_store/blob/master/glance_store/_drivers/swift/store.py#L122-L124 | 14:51 |
| sigmavirus24 | kragniz: ah, I thought you had something to do with swift retries last cycle but I'm probably forgetting | 14:51 |
| kragniz | sigmavirus24: I did, that was about a sleep and backoff between retries | 14:51 |
| mfedosin | sigmavirus24, btw oslo.rbd is not a bad idea, it prevents serious code duplication | 14:52 |
| sigmavirus24 | mfedosin: we should mention it at the oslo meeting on Monday | 14:52 |
| sigmavirus24 | It'll have to go through the incubator first probably, but that's fine | 14:52 |
| mfedosin | sigmavirus24, when will it be? | 14:52 |
| dims_ | mfedosin: sigmavirus24: if you create a core team with who ever you want, either glance or cinder can own the git repo too | 14:53 |
| sigmavirus24 | dims_: ooo | 14:53 |
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| sigmavirus24 | dims_: why not both? =P | 14:53 |
| kragniz | dims_: do you have oslo on highlight or something? :P | 14:53 |
| dims_ | sigmavirus24: one git repo goes into one project in the governance repo | 14:53 |
| dims_ | kragniz: yep :) | 14:53 |
| sigmavirus24 | mfedosin: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Oslo_Team_Meeting | 14:53 |
| kragniz | how much code could we remove from our rdb driver, though? | 14:54 |
| dims_ | practically it does not matter which project owns it as long as folks from both projects are on the core | 14:54 |
| mfedosin | okay, I'm going to be there | 14:54 |
| kragniz | there's the rdb uri parsing | 14:54 |
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| nikhil_k | btw, next review is #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203679/ | 14:54 |
| kragniz | I guess there's all the connection stuff, actually | 14:55 |
| nikhil_k | any last min objections? | 14:55 |
| kragniz | yeah, let's move on | 14:55 |
| sabari | +1. It helped a lot to have oslo.vmware in case of the vmware store driver. | 14:55 |
| nikhil_k | nothing, we can +A that one then | 14:56 |
| nikhil_k | #topic Open Discussion | 14:56 |
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| nikhil_k | Next week's irc weekly-meeting is cancelled | 14:57 |
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| sabari | How about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181347/ ? | 14:57 |
| sabari | I think this needs a migration change too. | 14:57 |
| sabari | flaper87: ^ | 14:57 |
| malini__ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194868/ and this would like +2, we are making good progress on implementation | 14:58 |
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| nikhil_k | yep, it needs data correction on the existing old deployments | 14:58 |
| nikhil_k | but it's gone now to contradict given that it merged in oslo.db | 14:59 |
| jokke_ | I'm tempted to block that merge | 14:59 |
| jokke_ | put a -1 comment in | 14:59 |
| jokke_ | and there is lots of those what I flagged | 14:59 |
| nikhil_k | jokke_: we had deprecated the config a while back | 14:59 |
| sabari | nikhil_k: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75898/7 has all history | 15:00 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k: I mean that flake8 change | 15:00 |
| jokke_ | you just approved | 15:00 |
| nikhil_k | jokke_: ohk | 15:00 |
| sabari | so I think may be we should fix this for newer deployments and error out on older if they haven't fixed thier tables to utf8 | 15:00 |
| nikhil_k | mclaren: also +Aed it | 15:00 |
| nikhil_k | jokke_: what do you want us to do? | 15:01 |
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| jokke_ | lets continue on -glance we're out of time | 15:01 |
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| nikhil_k | Thanks all | 15:01 |
| shalq | nikhil_k: I have a request to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190895/ | 15:01 |
| malini__ | bye everyone! | 15:01 |
| nikhil_k | shalq: on #openstack-glance please | 15:02 |
| nikhil_k | #endmeeting | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 23 15:02:05 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-07-23-14.00.html | 15:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-07-23-14.00.txt | 15:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-07-23-14.00.log.html | 15:02 |
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| sjmc7_ | nikhil_k, TravT's on his way | 15:02 |
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| nikhil_k | sjmc7_: ok, youboth want us to wait or start the proceedings | 15:02 |
| nikhil_k | ? | 15:02 |
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| sjmc7_ | he's very close :) | 15:03 |
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| nikhil_k | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 23 15:03:24 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is nikhil_k. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack search)" | 15:03 | |
| nikhil_k | #chair TravT | 15:03 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search' | 15:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: TravT nikhil_k | 15:03 |
| TravT | thanks, nikhil_k | 15:03 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 15:03 |
| nikhil_k | #topic agenda and roll call | 15:03 |
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| kragniz | o/ | 15:03 |
| nikhil_k | o/ | 15:03 |
| TravT | o/ | 15:03 |
| lakshmiS | o/ | 15:03 |
| nikhil_k | hey TravT | 15:03 |
| sjmc7_ | o/ | 15:03 |
| TravT | agenda here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda | 15:04 |
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| TravT | add anything to it that you'd like | 15:04 |
| TravT | #topic Horizon integration update --> Endpoint in Keystone (include v1 or not?) TravT, sjmc7 | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Horizon integration update --> Endpoint in Keystone (include v1 or not?) TravT, sjmc7 (Meeting topic: openstack search)" | 15:05 | |
| TravT | so, sjmc7 and i are at the horizon mid-cycle | 15:05 |
| sigmavirus24 | o/ | 15:05 |
| TravT | my focus has been trying to get images table angularized and getting a widget called magic search on top of it. | 15:05 |
| TravT | this lays the groundwork for utilizing searchlight | 15:06 |
| TravT | and yesterday sjmc7 started porting over our concept patch that we showed at the summit | 15:06 |
| TravT | very early, but we did encounter one question | 15:06 |
| TravT | that is the endpoint in keystone | 15:06 |
| sjmc7_ | currently devstack puts in 'host:9393/' | 15:07 |
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| sjmc7_ | which means the client has to append v1/ | 15:07 |
| sjmc7_ | there seems to be about a 50/50 split with how other services do it | 15:07 |
| TravT | in the endpoint list for other services there doesn't seem to be consistency | 15:07 |
| TravT | for example, cinder has a totally different service listed | 15:07 |
| TravT | for their v2 | 15:07 |
| nikhil_k | hmm, yeah | 15:08 |
| TravT | so, we were wondering if we should keep the endpoint in the service catalog to not have the 'vX' appended | 15:08 |
| TravT | and force the user of the service to add that | 15:08 |
| TravT | or if we should have the endpoint in the catalog | 15:08 |
| sjmc7_ | especially since we dpn't have a client to do that auto-versioning thingy the python clients seem to have | 15:08 |
| TravT | have the vX on it | 15:08 |
| kragniz | we should have it unversioned | 15:09 |
| kragniz | that's where other projects are trying to move to | 15:09 |
| lakshmiS | seems like cinder is good way to solve it since it also tells clients what versions are supported as endpoints | 15:09 |
| sigmavirus24 | == kragniz | 15:10 |
| sjmc7_ | that's 2 - 1. any other takers? :) | 15:10 |
| TravT | we could put this out on the mailing list and announce our intention to not have it versioned in the endpoint list | 15:11 |
| ekarlso | guys | 15:11 |
| ekarlso | hey guys :9 | 15:11 |
| TravT | howdy ekarlso! | 15:11 |
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| ekarlso | unversioned with discovery is the typical pattern | 15:12 |
| ekarlso | no /vFOO in the endpoints :P | 15:12 |
| ekarlso | at least what we did for designate | 15:12 |
| TravT | allright, we'll stick with the unversioned for now. that's what the current horizon patch assumes. | 15:12 |
| sjmc7_ | we have no client | 15:12 |
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| sjmc7_ | and thus no autodiscovery | 15:12 |
| ekarlso | sjmc7_: u can easily do that by using the adapter / session stuffi n ksauth | 15:13 |
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| TravT | we don't have a discovery api right now (unless I missed something), so do we need to add that? | 15:13 |
| ekarlso | TravT: u can pass a endpoint too to ks if you want to with a token | 15:13 |
| TravT | typically you put in the requested version and client tries, right? | 15:14 |
| sjmc7_ | let's put this on the mailing list and get a decision by next week | 15:14 |
| ekarlso | TravT: yeah it'll try discovery if you dont pass a explicit endpoint | 15:14 |
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| TravT | ok, well, let's stick with no version in keystone then. | 15:14 |
| TravT | so next topic is bug review | 15:15 |
| TravT | #topic Ceilometer / Notifications: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202392 | 15:15 |
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| TravT | lakshmiS: any updates here? | 15:15 |
| lakshmiS | after several discussions/reviews we have the patch in decent shape now | 15:15 |
| lakshmiS | haven't seen any further -1's and works fine with ceilometer running | 15:16 |
| TravT | ok. I'm guilty of not doing reviews in about a week, but tomorrow i'm intending to get on that. | 15:16 |
| sjmc7_ | yeah, i'm good with it too, thanks for addressing my suggestions | 15:16 |
| TravT | today is last day of horizon meetup | 15:16 |
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| TravT | ok, on to next | 15:17 |
| TravT | any other bugs anybody needs discussion? | 15:18 |
| sjmc7_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/searchlight/+bug/1469336 | 15:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1469336 in OpenStack Search (Searchlight) "Errors are returned as html" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Ian Cordasco (icordasc) | 15:18 |
| sjmc7_ | we hit this doing the horizon integration and it's a pain | 15:18 |
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| sjmc7_ | doesn't need discussion i don't think | 15:18 |
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| TravT | ok | 15:19 |
| TravT | #topic Blueprint review (Please add any blueprints needing attention below) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight | 15:19 |
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| TravT | ekarlso, there were several the last two weeks you had added but i don't think we discussed | 15:19 |
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| TravT | ekarlso, can you re-share the info for setting up designate in devstack | 15:20 |
| TravT | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/designate-plugin | 15:20 |
| TravT | i'd like to get that setup so i can properly review and get that patch in | 15:20 |
| ekarlso | http://paste.ubuntu.com/11925639/ | 15:21 |
| lakshmiS | ekarlso: I would like to review that but what setup needs to be done? | 15:21 |
| ekarlso | that's the localrc | 15:22 |
| TravT | does it setup sample data as well? | 15:22 |
| ekarlso | u just clone searchlight to /opt/stack/searchlight, checkout the PS | 15:22 |
| ekarlso | ehm | 15:22 |
| ekarlso | lemme write up instructions :p | 15:22 |
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| sjmc7_ | well, if there are eisting designate instructions we can follow that | 15:23 |
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| TravT | i was talking to a guy at time warner about desginate | 15:23 |
| TravT | he said he's happy it'll be in searchlight | 15:23 |
| TravT | but also asked "will it give me any more data than I get from the CLI" | 15:23 |
| sjmc7_ | i'll try and test the designate patch tomorrow or monday as well, be great to get that merged | 15:23 |
| TravT | i didn't know what to tell him? | 15:24 |
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| TravT | is there anything else on the designate plugin we should know for reviewing it? | 15:25 |
| TravT | if so, just add a comment on the patch i guess. | 15:25 |
| TravT | i will get to it tomorrow or monday | 15:25 |
| TravT | a big monkey on our back right now are nova instances | 15:25 |
| TravT | #topic https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/nova-instances-plugin | 15:25 |
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| nikhil_k | o/ | 15:25 |
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| sjmc7_ | yeah, any reviews on that patch are welcome | 15:26 |
| TravT | nikhil_k have you had any chance to look at that one? | 15:26 |
| TravT | i also intend to look at it tomorrow or Monday | 15:26 |
| nikhil_k | TravT: I did take a look and I think we should be good to go ahead on that based on the initial feedback. | 15:26 |
| TravT | it seems if it is a reasonable start and functions that we could get it in and do additional iteration. | 15:26 |
| nikhil_k | TravT: but I need to test it functionally :) | 15:26 |
| TravT | cool. | 15:26 |
| sjmc7_ | woo. yes, please test it. let me know if you have questions | 15:27 |
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| nikhil_k | TravT: btw, if you happen visit last week's meeting and channel logs for thursday, I did some sharing on thoughts on what could be potential enhancements needed | 15:27 |
| ekarlso | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/designate-searchlight | 15:27 |
| ekarlso | ^ TravT sjmc7_ lakshmiS | 15:28 |
| TravT | ekarlso: thanks! | 15:28 |
| sjmc7_ | great, thanks | 15:28 |
| ekarlso | gtg, house maintenance on the works! | 15:28 |
| lakshmiS | ekarlso: will ping you on irc if needed. whats your timezone? | 15:28 |
| TravT | nikhil_k, I did read the logs. I guess anything needed to be kept forever could be added to the BP. | 15:28 |
| ekarlso | uhm, Norwegian / GMT+2 I believe :P | 15:28 |
| TravT | ekarlso. thanks! we'll get your stuff going! | 15:28 |
| lakshmiS | ok good for me | 15:29 |
| TravT | there are two more BP listed on the meeting agenda | 15:29 |
| TravT | BP: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/openstack-client-usage | 15:29 |
| TravT | whose is that? | 15:29 |
| nikhil_k | TravT: sjmc7_ can we schedule a session during the glance midcycle for some discussion around indexing and nova instances? | 15:30 |
| nikhil_k | curious to know what our participation looks like | 15:30 |
| sjmc7_ | uh.. sure | 15:30 |
| TravT | sure, i'll be around all next week | 15:30 |
| nikhil_k | cool | 15:30 |
| nikhil_k | melissa can possibly join us | 15:30 |
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| TravT | ok. i had a call with her a couple weeks ago. | 15:31 |
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| TravT | she seemed very interested in utilizing searchlight | 15:31 |
| TravT | i think you and rosmaita will have the most context | 15:31 |
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| TravT | nobody seems to own the client bp? | 15:32 |
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| TravT | guess we can move onto the named queries bp | 15:32 |
| TravT | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/named-queries | 15:32 |
| lakshmiS | i am working on that | 15:32 |
| nikhil_k | TravT: we did a intial discussion yday but not so much on instances. I wanted to get some feedback on the use cases to see how we can proceed for long term indexing on that | 15:32 |
| TravT | nikhil_k, she has a very strong interest in utilizing searchlight for cross resource searching as well | 15:33 |
| nikhil_k | TravT: yeah, that part | 15:33 |
| TravT | to help facilitate a concept like amazon resource groups. | 15:33 |
| nikhil_k | + cross region | 15:33 |
| TravT | yeah, we really could spend some time brainstorming on cross region. | 15:34 |
| nikhil_k | turtles all the way down, may be | 15:34 |
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| TravT | it would be good to have a working vidyo session on some of these topics | 15:34 |
| TravT | if we could get a few more of these basic patches in. | 15:35 |
| nikhil_k | TravT: so I think my misunderstanding was around the indexing through command line. Does HP use cases never needs direct db indexing? | 15:35 |
| sjmc7_ | i don't think a use case ever dictates how you index | 15:36 |
| TravT | but we're not aware of that right now. | 15:36 |
| nikhil_k | TravT: becasue for some API calls like the ones that have potentially large queries -- changes-since can be really expensive indexing operation and in some cases is 413'ed internally | 15:36 |
| sjmc7_ | we're not habitually doing a changes-since query though | 15:37 |
| nikhil_k | pagination would take forever to index it, may be days! | 15:37 |
| nikhil_k | sjmc7_: yeah, I meant deleted stuff that can be potentially retrieved using that | 15:37 |
| TravT | nikhil_k, what's the likelihood of us getting notification in nova to carry the full data we need? | 15:37 |
| nikhil_k | because deleted stuff isn't really exposed via the api | 15:38 |
| TravT | is that a BP that we should open on nova? | 15:38 |
| TravT | (spec) | 15:38 |
| sjmc7_ | i don't think i understand what you mean about 'deleted stuff' | 15:38 |
| nikhil_k | TravT: I think I would need to discuss the scope of such notifications with you both. we can do that offline | 15:38 |
| TravT | yeah, that would be good. | 15:39 |
| nikhil_k | sjmc7_: deleted instances, images (for now) (that's soft deleted) | 15:39 |
| sjmc7_ | maybe we should have a call about nova because i think my understanding is lagging behind yours | 15:39 |
| sjmc7_ | deleted instances send a notification | 15:39 |
| sjmc7_ | deleted glance images i don't know about | 15:39 |
| sjmc7_ | but i thought they did too | 15:39 |
| nikhil_k | yeah, but old ones won't. anyways we can chat later :) | 15:39 |
| TravT | yes, this would be a good working session / vidyo session | 15:40 |
| TravT | let's schedule that | 15:40 |
| nikhil_k | cool | 15:40 |
| TravT | #action nikhil_k schedule nova design session | 15:40 |
| TravT | apparently that isn't how you do actions | 15:40 |
| TravT | thanks nikhil_k, i also feel like I'm missing some important information here. | 15:41 |
| nikhil_k | TravT: hmm, I thought it was the right way for doing # action | 15:41 |
| nikhil_k | https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot | 15:41 |
| TravT | going back on the topic of named queries. | 15:42 |
| TravT | lakshmiS, i don't know any exact named queried yet | 15:42 |
| nikhil_k | ok, sure TravT | 15:42 |
| lakshmiS | TravT: I only have some basic quries for now. | 15:42 |
| TravT | i was wondering if for glance if rosmaita, nikhil_k, kragniz might know the most common searches needed or requested | 15:42 |
| lakshmiS | currenlty the queries are part of the plugin but once plugin config file patch lands I can move it to the config file | 15:42 |
| lakshmiS | putting in config file will easier to add queries later easily | 15:43 |
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| TravT | lakshmiS, there isn't a plugin specific config patch up yet, is there? | 15:43 |
| nikhil_k | 1. /images/details?name=foobar | 15:44 |
| lakshmiS | Travt: haven't seen one but heard someone was working on it. ekarlso? or may be no one is working on it | 15:44 |
| rosmaita | TravT: name, name wildcard, instance_uuid, base_image_ref | 15:44 |
| nikhil_k | 2. /images/details?updated_at=when?? | 15:44 |
| rosmaita | prob wildcards on all those i guess | 15:45 |
| TravT | for updated_at, are time ranges important? | 15:45 |
| rosmaita | probably | 15:45 |
| TravT | eg between X dates or after X dates | 15:45 |
| rosmaita | yes | 15:45 |
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| rosmaita | forget the wildcards on UUID, don't know what i was thinking there | 15:45 |
| sigmavirus24 | rosmaita: :D | 15:46 |
| rosmaita | probably the operating system | 15:46 |
| sjmc7_ | let's stick these on the BP or an etherpad | 15:46 |
| rosmaita | and version | 15:46 |
| TravT | rosmaita, is that just a well known property? i didn't think that was in the common images properties list | 15:46 |
| rosmaita | i am pretty sure those are "common image properties" | 15:47 |
| rosmaita | though i don't know that anyone uses them much | 15:47 |
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| * TravT admits it has been a few months since reading those | 15:47 | |
| rosmaita | but if they are indexed, that will motivate people! | 15:47 |
| TravT | they'll all be indexed! | 15:47 |
| TravT | everything is indexed | 15:47 |
| rosmaita | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/glance/common-image-properties.html | 15:48 |
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| nikhil_k | I think we may need some on the min disk, min ram too | 15:48 |
| TravT | rosmaita: nikhil_k: could you add the notes above to the blueprint? | 15:49 |
| TravT | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/named-queries | 15:49 |
| rosmaita | ok | 15:49 |
| TravT | one thing i want to see about adding to horizon (although i know you public cloud rackspace guys don't care) is a drop down list of common queries | 15:49 |
| TravT | and we'd pull that from these named queries | 15:49 |
| TravT | thanks guys. | 15:50 |
| TravT | #topic liberty 2 release plan | 15:50 |
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| lakshmiS | i should have the named queries patch up by tomorrow | 15:50 |
| TravT | thanks lakshmiS | 15:50 |
| TravT | so, we don't have a release plan yet | 15:51 |
| * TravT slightly embarrassed | 15:51 | |
| TravT | i think the action is for nikhil_k and I to talk offline about that | 15:51 |
| nikhil_k | yes | 15:52 |
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| TravT | i'm guessing we get questioned on that later today, because we'll be talking about searchlight for a small bit in the horizon meetup this afternoon | 15:52 |
| nikhil_k | TravT: sjmc7_ and I agreed last week that it would be good to release after nova instances merges | 15:52 |
| TravT | ok. | 15:52 |
| TravT | so, let's make it a goal that we have that and designate plugin merged by next meeting. | 15:52 |
| TravT | assuming they are ready of course | 15:53 |
| TravT | #topic open discussion | 15:53 |
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| nikhil_k | I added a section for glance+searchlight in the glance's midcycle etherpad #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-glance-mid-cycle-meetup | 15:53 |
| nikhil_k | #action all interested: please add name and timezone info so that we can try to schedule it accordingly | 15:54 |
| nikhil_k | or if we need to split it | 15:54 |
| TravT | Thanks, nikhil, just added me name | 15:54 |
| rosmaita | lakshmiS: i put some notes on the "whiteboard" on your BP | 15:55 |
| lakshmiS | rosmaita: saw that. thanks | 15:55 |
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| rosmaita | i have a general discussion question, viz., what are people thinking currently about how to do multi-region searchlight? | 15:55 |
| TravT | we briefly spoke at summit, but haven't come up with a concrete plan. | 15:56 |
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| lakshmiS | i think initial idea was having multiple index one for each region | 15:56 |
| rosmaita | we had informally said at some point that we'd keep a searchlight in each region, and then mabye a super-serachlight that would index them all | 15:56 |
| TravT | yeah, searchlight of searchlights | 15:57 |
| sjmc7_ | *shudder* | 15:57 |
| rosmaita | searchlight++ | 15:57 |
| sjmc7_ | authentication is a problem | 15:57 |
| lakshmiS | authenticate is always pain | 15:57 |
| sjmc7_ | i *think* tokens are always region scoped | 15:57 |
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| lakshmiS | specially across resource types | 15:57 |
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| sjmc7_ | that's maybe something we should have a proper discussion about, maybe next week | 15:58 |
| sjmc7_ | figure out what we want it to look like and then if we can do it | 15:58 |
| rosmaita | sounds good | 15:58 |
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| TravT | agreed... also maybe get a few high level ideas up and get some ML input as well. | 15:58 |
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| TravT | anything else for today? 2 mins left | 15:59 |
| sjmc7_ | if we're done with that, we've tried to discuss this a couple of times, but if people could give some thought to the implemenation around authenticating the service clients i would welcome suggestions; i'm not sure the current method is ideal | 15:59 |
| sjmc7_ | currently SL requires admin creds that it uses to intiailize the various clients, and tries to cache a successful auth when the listener's running | 15:59 |
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| sjmc7_ | it works and it's not insecure but i'd appreciate someone taking a look at it since it was diret from the summit prototype which i didn't put a huge amount of thought or optimization into | 16:00 |
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| TravT | ok, plz link patch / bp | 16:00 |
| TravT | and we'll call it a meeting | 16:00 |
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| nikhil_k | Thanks | 16:00 |
| sjmc7_ | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/openstack-client-usage | 16:01 |
| TravT | thank everybody. | 16:01 |
| TravT | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 23 16:01:28 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2015/openstack_search.2015-07-23-15.03.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2015/openstack_search.2015-07-23-15.03.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2015/openstack_search.2015-07-23-15.03.log.html | 16:01 |
| cloudnull | #startmeeting OpenStack Ansible Meeting | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 23 16:01:46 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cloudnull. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack Ansible Meeting)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible_meeting' | 16:01 |
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| palendae | o/ | 16:01 |
| cloudnull | #topic rollcall | 16:02 |
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| palendae | o/ | 16:02 |
| Apsu | o/ | 16:02 |
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| d34dh0r53 | */ | 16:02 |
| jwagner | o/ | 16:02 |
| odyssey4me | o/ | 16:02 |
| b3rnard0 | hello | 16:03 |
| sigmavirus24 | o/ | 16:03 |
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| * sigmavirus24 clears throat | 16:05 | |
| cloudnull | so i guess thats all of us | 16:05 |
| cloudnull | ... | 16:05 |
| cloudnull | #topic Review action items from last week | 16:05 |
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| palendae | Good meeting | 16:05 |
| sigmavirus24 | Better than some glance meetings attendance =P | 16:05 |
| cloudnull | Regarding EPOC and pip - add more hours to the day so sigmavirus24 can put together a POC <- sigmavirus24 | 16:06 |
| cloudnull | *epoch | 16:06 |
| sigmavirus24 | Yeah, I haven't gotten to that yet | 16:06 |
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| sigmavirus24 | Still need those hours | 16:06 |
| cloudnull | #action add more hours to the day so sigmavirus24 can put together a POC for pip and epoch's | 16:07 |
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| cloudnull | carried | 16:07 |
| palendae | Would that solely be part of the upgrade script? | 16:07 |
| palendae | Or changes to yaprt? | 16:07 |
| cloudnull | id assume either can be done. | 16:07 |
| cloudnull | or both . | 16:07 |
| palendae | Ok | 16:07 |
| cloudnull | sigmavirus24: what did you have in mind | 16:07 |
| sigmavirus24 | I was thinking keep it in the upgrade script for now | 16:08 |
| sigmavirus24 | Or go for that to see if that alone will work | 16:08 |
| palendae | May not be a bad idea to make the master upgrade script be kilo -> liberty at this point | 16:08 |
| sigmavirus24 | I don't think yaprt needs this, unless we want to force yaprt to build with epochs | 16:08 |
| sigmavirus24 | which will then be something that has to happen for every upgrade after that | 16:08 |
| palendae | And any juno -> kilo upgrade stuff just goes straight to kilo | 16:08 |
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| cloudnull | ok next item | 16:09 |
| cloudnull | reenable the successerator for a single retry within the gate. To be removed as soon as Ansible v2 drops upstream - someone | 16:09 |
| cloudnull | this was done. | 16:09 |
| cloudnull | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203257/ | 16:10 |
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| sigmavirus24 | :thumbsup: | 16:10 |
| odyssey4me | :) | 16:10 |
| cloudnull | next | 16:10 |
| cloudnull | get a thread going on the mailing list surrounding issues with upgrading Kilo > Liberty - someone | 16:10 |
| cloudnull | and we're carrying that until there are more hours in a day | 16:10 |
| cloudnull | #action get a thread going on the mailing list surrounding issues with upgrading Kilo > Liberty - someone | 16:10 |
| cloudnull | o/ jwitko :) | 16:11 |
| jwitko | Hello! | 16:11 |
| cloudnull | #topic Blueprints | 16:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blueprints (Meeting topic: OpenStack Ansible Meeting)" | 16:11 | |
| cloudnull | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/os-ansible-deployment-specs,n,z | 16:11 |
| cloudnull | we have a few open ones, please review them when you get a chance | 16:12 |
| cloudnull | important ones IMHO are https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203708/ | 16:12 |
| cloudnull | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203706/ | 16:12 |
| cloudnull | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203754/ | 16:12 |
| cloudnull | also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202373/1 | 16:13 |
| cloudnull | which is a clean up of the specs dir | 16:13 |
| palendae | I will commit to getting at least one of those reviewed today | 16:14 |
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| odyssey4me | I've looked through most of them already and have posted some questions. I'll get through a few more tomorrow. | 16:15 |
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| palendae | cloudnull: Does the my.conf one depend on the v10 one at all? | 16:15 |
| cloudnull | palendae: no | 16:15 |
| palendae | k | 16:15 |
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| cloudnull | also we have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205062/ which is a continuation of the work done by svg | 16:17 |
| cloudnull | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181957/ | 16:17 |
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| cloudnull | #topic Reviews | 16:18 |
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| cloudnull | anything that we want to highlight regarding open reviews ? | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull I think that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205062/ is a spec by our team to cover the work done by svg, but with our revisions in it | 16:19 |
| cloudnull | yes | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | it'll become the blueprint for that work - the team will revise svg's patch and bring it up to date and do some heavy testing on it | 16:20 |
| cloudnull | ++ | 16:20 |
| cloudnull | in our open reviews we have a few inflight that would be good to get nailed down soon-ish https://review.openstack.org/#/q/starredby:cloudnull+status:open,n,z | 16:22 |
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| cloudnull | does anyone have any issues with backporting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205008/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205056/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204996/ | 16:23 |
| cloudnull | i'd like to have them in Kilo, to rid ourselves of key distribution issues. | 16:23 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull I'm happy with that - I'm surprised that they built first time! | 16:24 |
| cloudnull | #startvote Should we backort the new key distribution process? Yes, No, Maybe | 16:24 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Should we backort the new key distribution process? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Maybe. | 16:24 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 16:24 |
| odyssey4me | #vote yes | 16:25 |
| cloudnull | #vote yes | 16:25 |
| andymccr | #vote yes | 16:25 |
| d34dh0r53 | #vote yes | 16:25 |
| palendae | #vote yes | 16:25 |
| Apsu | #vote yes | 16:25 |
| cloudnull | #showvote | 16:26 |
| openstack | Yes (6): d34dh0r53, palendae, odyssey4me, andymccr, Apsu, cloudnull | 16:26 |
| cloudnull | ok i think its safe to say its a yes. | 16:26 |
| cloudnull | #endvote | 16:26 |
| openstack | Voted on "Should we backort the new key distribution process?" Results are | 16:26 |
| openstack | Yes (6): d34dh0r53, palendae, odyssey4me, andymccr, Apsu, cloudnull | 16:26 |
| andymccr | done :D | 16:26 |
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| cloudnull | #action backport https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205008/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205056/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204996/ to kilo - someone | 16:27 |
| andymccr | already done | 16:27 |
| cloudnull | sweet | 16:27 |
| cloudnull | #topic Open discussion | 16:28 |
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| cloudnull | what do we want to talk about? its time for festivus . | 16:28 |
| odyssey4me | we could do with some eyes on https://review.openstack.org/194474 - the Keystone SSL cert/key distribution | 16:28 |
| odyssey4me | that review brings that into line with the same mechanism as is used for horizon and fixes a lot of the brokenness | 16:29 |
| odyssey4me | it also appropriately fixes the haproxy configuration depending on whether you have Keystone setup with SSL or not | 16:29 |
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| cloudnull | can we modify the commit to use the process outlined by andymccr which is being done in swift ? or do you think that can be done in a dependent patch ? | 16:30 |
| cloudnull | for ssl cert sync | 16:31 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull this one's thoroughly tested and consistent with all other ssl cert distributions | 16:31 |
| odyssey4me | I'd like to try out the method discussed with andymccr, but that'll be when there's time for that in a subsequent patch. | 16:31 |
| odyssey4me | this one works as-is and fixes a lot of broken | 16:32 |
| andymccr | yeh i think if its working now lets mark as "to do:" work and get it done at some point | 16:32 |
| cloudnull | ok | 16:32 |
| cloudnull | ill get a review in on all that today | 16:33 |
| odyssey4me | thanks | 16:33 |
| cloudnull | everyones favorite topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204315/ | 16:33 |
| sigmavirus24 | cloudnull: oh? | 16:34 |
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| sigmavirus24 | I don't recall that being my favorite topic =P | 16:34 |
| cloudnull | trying to make gate runs happier in hpb4 | 16:34 |
| cloudnull | you kno w you love it :) | 16:34 |
| sigmavirus24 | Oh hpb4 is my favorite topic. Carry on =P | 16:34 |
| cloudnull | this forces an update to happen in all containers and logs all the things in a new gate directory "http://logs.openstack.org/15/204315/8/check/os-ansible-deployment-dsvm-check-commit/a495ded/logs/ansible_cmd_logs/" | 16:35 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull not the neatest of logs, but something's better than nothing | 16:35 |
| cloudnull | yea the ansible return data is kinda shit to read | 16:35 |
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| sigmavirus24 | cloudnull: do we want to recheck that until we get it to hpb4? | 16:36 |
| sigmavirus24 | last run was against raxdfw | 16:36 |
| odyssey4me | I don't think so - the best way we're going to get it running on hpcloud-b4 is to merge it in | 16:36 |
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| sigmavirus24 | odyssey4me: I saw one of the last rechecks was "recheck -hp1 success" | 16:37 |
| sigmavirus24 | so I figured we could keep rolling the nodepool dice | 16:37 |
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| cloudnull | odyssey4me: i think i can make the return output from ansible better if i add in "--one-line" to the ansible commands | 16:37 |
| cloudnull | it will be a lot to read on oneline however it wont be something like http://logs.openstack.org/15/204315/8/check/os-ansible-deployment-dsvm-check-commit/a495ded/logs/ansible_cmd_logs/force_apt_update/aio1_memcached_container-541276d9 | 16:38 |
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| cloudnull | youre call. if you think it best to rev it | 16:38 |
| Apsu | cloudnull: Why not pipe to python -m json.tool to format it a little? | 16:38 |
| cloudnull | each log file is generated with per node. | 16:39 |
| cloudnull | i guess we could do a post process | 16:39 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull I think it's fine as-is and can be improved in a later patch | 16:40 |
| cloudnull | ok | 16:40 |
| odyssey4me | for now we need some sort of diagnostics for hpcloud-b4 | 16:40 |
| cloudnull | ++ | 16:40 |
| cloudnull | i hate hpb4 .. . | 16:40 |
| odyssey4me | and we won't be getting it unless we recheck ad nauseum, or merge it | 16:40 |
| cloudnull | okiedokie typie typie make it go :) | 16:40 |
| cloudnull | what else we got ? | 16:41 |
| odyssey4me | sigmavirus24 made it go :) | 16:41 |
| cloudnull | sigmavirus24: for PTL | 16:41 |
| cloudnull | :) | 16:41 |
| sigmavirus24 | of? | 16:41 |
| cloudnull | yes | 16:41 |
| sigmavirus24 | -_- | 16:41 |
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| cloudnull | ah liberty keystone is unhappy here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199126/ | 16:42 |
| cloudnull | if someone is board it would be a great help to get that narrowed down | 16:42 |
| cloudnull | if its an upstream issue or an us issue, idk | 16:43 |
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| odyssey4me | cloudnull on another issue - upstream kilo merged the urllib cap, do you plan to rev the SHA's next week? if so, we can remove our cap in the same review | 16:44 |
| cloudnull | ah good point, | 16:44 |
| cloudnull | i plan on being on vacation next week | 16:44 |
| cloudnull | :) | 16:44 |
| cloudnull | maybe we rev it today | 16:45 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull ah ok, we can chat a bit after this then - we have a few things to sort out for your absence | 16:45 |
| cloudnull | and remove our cap | 16:45 |
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| cloudnull | FYI odyssey4me will be handling bussiness while im gone. | 16:45 |
| Apsu | Meet the new boss, same as the old boss | 16:47 |
| b3rnard0 | what can possible go wrong? | 16:48 |
| d34dh0r53 | I for one welcome our UK overlords | 16:48 |
| Apsu | ^ | 16:48 |
| d34dh0r53 | b3rnard0: you could forget a y? | 16:48 |
| odyssey4me | lol | 16:49 |
| odyssey4me | I suppose that we're done here? | 16:49 |
| cloudnull | yup | 16:50 |
| cloudnull | thanks everyone | 16:50 |
| cloudnull | #endmeeting | 16:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 23 16:50:35 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-07-23-16.01.html | 16:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-07-23-16.01.txt | 16:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-07-23-16.01.log.html | 16:50 |
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| cathy_ | startmeeting service_chaining | 17:01 |
| cathy_ | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 23 17:02:07 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cathy_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 17:02 |
| s3wong | hello | 17:02 |
| cathy_ | hi everyone | 17:02 |
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| LouisF | hi | 17:02 |
| pcarver | hi | 17:02 |
| Mohankumar__ | hi | 17:02 |
| vikram | hi | 17:02 |
| cathy_ | good let's start | 17:03 |
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| cathy_ | we posted a new patch for the API spec to address Sean's comment on adding the API URL table. Have you got a chance to review it? | 17:03 |
| LouisF | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204695 | 17:03 |
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| LouisF | this adds detail on the url and resource endpoints | 17:04 |
| cathy_ | sc68cal: are you there? | 17:04 |
| s3wong | LouisF: may want to just add sc68cal as reviewer, so it would be on his review queue | 17:05 |
| cathy_ | s3wong: good point. will do | 17:05 |
| sc68cal | looking now | 17:05 |
| pcarver | I missed that one, but looking at it now I like it. I'll spend a little more time later before putting in a review. | 17:06 |
| cathy_ | anything you folks would like to discuss in today's meeting? We have a wiki page posted in last IRC meeting. you can go there to add items you would like to discuss in the coming IRC meeting | 17:06 |
| vikram | cathy_: will review it | 17:06 |
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| sc68cal | I have an item | 17:06 |
| cathy_ | pcarver: thanks. | 17:06 |
| cathy_ | vikram: thanks | 17:06 |
| sc68cal | Can we get some cross-collaboration on this spec? https://review.openstack.org/186663 | 17:07 |
| s3wong | sc68cal: that was fast :-) | 17:07 |
| cathy_ | sc68cal: I am looking at that spec. | 17:07 |
| sc68cal | s3wong: well my objection was just that the info was in a wiki, not in the actual API spec - it wasn't an objection to the API overall | 17:07 |
| s3wong | sc68cal: sure | 17:08 |
| sc68cal | https://review.openstack.org/186663 - I would like to see just one API for forwarding and forwarding-like things | 17:08 |
| pcarver | interesting. That does seem like it overlaps | 17:08 |
| sc68cal | yes they may be slightly different - re the whole chain concept but we don't benefit from having multiple ways to express similar concepts | 17:08 |
| cathy_ | sc68cal: yes, we have been collaborating with that spec. Vikram had worked with Yuji of that spec on reaching consensus on the Classifier API we put in the service chain spec. | 17:08 |
| s3wong | sc68cal: we do also --- the tradeoff however is that networking-sfc would have a dependency on this to land | 17:09 |
| vikram | cathy_: this is another spec.. | 17:09 |
| cathy_ | sc68cal: if you look at previous meeting logs, we have discussion on that and community consensus on that | 17:09 |
| vikram | sc68cal: i feel this spec is unrelated to service function chaining | 17:09 |
| vikram | spec just try to provide a way in which a transparent packet can be directed to a particular dest-port. Here the idea of chain is not involved as the packet will only be routed from a particular source to the required destination. | 17:10 |
| LouisF | vikram: agree - it addresses filtering but not service chaining | 17:10 |
| cathy_ | sc68cal: Sorry this seems another spec, not the one Yuji posted on flow classifier. Sorry for the confusion | 17:10 |
| vikram | sc68cal: what is your felling? | 17:10 |
| vikram | *felling | 17:11 |
| LouisF | the common classifier spec is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190463/ | 17:11 |
| vikram | i am really bad at spellings :-) | 17:11 |
| s3wong | sc68cal: though mestery and armax are on the reviewers list, I don't see a whole lot of core awareness on this effort --- so definitely a bit concerning if we make this a dependency | 17:11 |
| pcarver | vikram: it's not the same but it has a lot in common. If we're going to have both there will need to be extremely clear documentation to guide operators and tenants on when to use each. | 17:11 |
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| pcarver | Especially if the two can interact in unpredictable ways | 17:12 |
| vikram | pcarver: i agree.. | 17:12 |
| sc68cal | I just feel like there are some things that are in common, the idea of redirecting traffic - the mechanics may be different but I don't like this idea of "oh it's just a little bit different, therefore a whole new separate API is justified" | 17:12 |
| vikram | sc68cal: hmmmm | 17:12 |
| pcarver | cathy_: I understand the desire to not have too many dependencies, but it may make sense to have a have one be a degenerate case of the other | 17:13 |
| vikram | sc68cal: we can hold it unless we have a definite usecase which could not be resolved using service function chaining | 17:13 |
| cathy_ | sc68cal: +1 | 17:13 |
| pcarver | as opposed to two unrelated things that appear similar to the user | 17:13 |
| LouisF | sc68cal: the sfc is more general than the forwarding spec | 17:14 |
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| LouisF | its functionality can be covered by the sfc spec | 17:14 |
| vikram | sc68cal, pcarver: I agree, service function chaining can achieve the use case defined in forwarding spec | 17:14 |
| pcarver | LouisF, vikram: I haven't reviewed 186663 before looking at it just now, but is there a reason why it couldn't be implemented as a trivially simple service chain? | 17:15 |
| vikram | How about holding it unless we have a definite usecase which could not be resolved using service function chaining | 17:15 |
| s3wong | pcarver: in theory I 100% agree with not duplicate effort. But we also understand that merging things in Neutron is of a different pace than merging things in networking-sfc (the point of separate repo is to iterate faster) | 17:15 |
| cathy_ | vikram:agree with you. Would you like to talk with Yuji on that ? | 17:15 |
| vikram | pcarver: I believe it can | 17:15 |
| LouisF | pcarver: yes I think that can be done | 17:15 |
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| sc68cal | yeah I mean I could be stupid but the forwarding API is basically just a chain of 1 | 17:16 |
| vikram | cathy_: We can put our concerns over the etherpad link shared for this spec | 17:16 |
| sc68cal | and BTW - fwaas is going to be a chain of 1 | 17:16 |
| vikram | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/forwarding-rule | 17:16 |
| sc68cal | if we're inserting a firewall between an instance and the rest of the network | 17:16 |
| sc68cal | I had hoped to consume SFC, to look into making fwaas more flexible | 17:16 |
| vikram | sc68cal:+++100 | 17:17 |
| pcarver | sc68cal: +1, security functions are a primary example of the reason for SFC, although not all chained functions are firewallish | 17:17 |
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| jwarendt | +1 | 17:17 |
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| cathy_ | So we all agree that the service chain API can cover the functionality needed in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186663/ | 17:18 |
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| LouisF | +1 | 17:18 |
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| pcarver | I'm also hearing requirements from the NFV side wanting to replicate hub and spoke topologies. I'm viewing that also as a subset of SFC | 17:18 |
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| sc68cal | pcarver: agreed | 17:19 |
| cathy_ | #agreed the service chain API can cover the functionality needed in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186663/ | 17:19 |
| cathy_ | So how should we make sure there is no duplicate API? Maybe Vikram can communicate this with Yuji? Suggestion? | 17:21 |
| sc68cal | I'd say maybe an e-mail to the ML, with the results of this meeting, and say that we want to try and converge where there is commonality | 17:22 |
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| vikram | cathy_: sure.. i have posted a comment on the spec.. will try to catch him tomorrow over IRC as wekk | 17:22 |
| cathy_ | sc68cal: agree. | 17:22 |
| pcarver | cathy_: I haven't gone through the review in detail, but I'm thinking that it might not be wrong to have a sort of a wrapper for specific subcases. What I wouldn't want to see is uncoordinated duplication of effort. | 17:23 |
| cathy_ | #action Cathy send an email to ML summarizing the consensus that the service chain API can cover the functionality needed in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186663/ | 17:23 |
| pcarver | It may be that 186663 shouldn't just be abandoned, but revised to be based on SFC | 17:24 |
| cathy_ | #action: Vikram try to catch him tomorrow over IRC and pass our consensus to him, get his input. | 17:24 |
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| cathy_ | pcarver: OK with me . You may want to post that suggestion to that spec | 17:25 |
| s3wong | pcarver: but you are still advocating that the forwarding-rules/classifier effort be done on Neutron repo? | 17:25 |
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| pcarver | s3wong: Not advocating anything specific yet. I haven't read the 186663 spec yet. | 17:26 |
| pcarver | cathy_: I will review that spec and post my thoughts | 17:26 |
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| cathy_ | pcarver: good. thanks. I think the key is not to have duplicate APIs to confuse the community. | 17:27 |
| cathy_ | sc68cal: Thanks for starting this discussion topic! | 17:27 |
| sc68cal | np | 17:28 |
| cathy_ | any other topic you folks would like to discuss? | 17:28 |
| pcarver | I've been looking at Google search results related to Neutron service chaining. I'm thinking we need to do some cleanup. | 17:29 |
| pcarver | The top results tend to show up obsolete information | 17:29 |
| pcarver | Louis' abandonded spec for example, and a wiki with old info and an outdated document | 17:29 |
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| pcarver | e.g. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/ServiceInsertionAndChaining | 17:29 |
| s3wong | pcarver: yeah, the top result (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/ServiceInsertionAndChaining) has been obsolete since Juno... | 17:30 |
| pcarver | I'm going to start doing a little editing, but it would be good if other people took a look too | 17:30 |
| cathy_ | pcarver: not sure how to fix that? Any clue? | 17:30 |
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| LouisF | that work was started some ago and was abandoned | 17:30 |
| pcarver | The wiki is easy. Launchpad also. Gerrit I'm not sure | 17:31 |
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| pcarver | Anybody good with Gerrit URLs? | 17:31 |
| cathy_ | pcarver: so you are going to fix the search result of wiki and launchpad? | 17:32 |
| cathy_ | pcarver: I will talk with you offline about how to fix that. I would like to learn:-) | 17:32 |
| pcarver | This blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/neutron-api-extension-for-service-chaining lists this URL: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/neutron-api-extension-for-service-chaining,n,z | 17:32 |
| s3wong | cathy_: I think pcarver is going to remove the wiki and launchpad pages :-) | 17:32 |
| s3wong | Google search / cache, we can't do much about... | 17:33 |
| pcarver | anybody know the correct URL to replace that so that it shows the new spec rather than the abandoned one? | 17:33 |
| cathy_ | pcarver: I can fix that | 17:33 |
| cathy_ | #action cathy modify the BP to reference the new spec | 17:34 |
| cathy_ | s3wong: :-) | 17:34 |
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| cathy_ | how is the dependency issue of the Neutron SC client on the base code going? Vikram: any update? | 17:35 |
| vikram | resolved:-) | 17:35 |
| cathy_ | vikram: Cool ! | 17:35 |
| vikram | thanks to amotoki | 17:35 |
| Mohankumar__ | yes , We got solution for base dependecency issue( by adding requirements in requirements.txt) | 17:35 |
| s3wong | pcarver: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192933/ | 17:35 |
| vikram | we need to add something in test-requirement.txt | 17:35 |
| cathy_ | Mohankumar__: great. that simple :-) | 17:35 |
| Mohankumar__ | cathy_ yes :) | 17:36 |
| pcarver | s3wong: That URL is in there, but it's a different view than the other one | 17:36 |
| pcarver | s3wong: That URL is listed as "Addressed by" whereas the incorrect URL is listed as "Gerrit topic" | 17:37 |
| pcarver | Oh, I think I just figured it out | 17:37 |
| pcarver | Our topic is someone confusingly called "initial-manifesto" | 17:37 |
| pcarver | the incorrect one is called neutron-api-extension-for-service-chaining | 17:38 |
| cathy_ | pcarver: ? | 17:38 |
| s3wong | pcarver: yeah, I noticed that a while back :-) was wondering what the heck does that mean... | 17:38 |
| s3wong | what is the official "Topic"? | 17:38 |
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| cathy_ | pcarver: could you clarify what you are talking about? | 17:39 |
| pcarver | It looks like blueprints typically list a Gerrit search URL at the top followed by a series of "Addressed by" links to specific URLs | 17:39 |
| pcarver | cathy_: take a look at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/neutron-api-extension-for-service-chaining and scroll down to the Whiteboard section | 17:40 |
| pcarver | cathy_: Note that there are two URLs, one "Gerrit topic" and one "Addressed by" | 17:40 |
| pcarver | The "Gerrit topic" is actually a dynamic query that hits on Louis' abandoned changed | 17:41 |
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| s3wong | yeah, so fixing the Gerrit topic link should suffice | 17:41 |
| LouisF | pcarver: will fix | 17:41 |
| cathy_ | So we need to change the Gerrit topic to the new one, right? We cna manually change that I assume? | 17:41 |
| pcarver | The Addressed by is a correct link to our merged spec | 17:41 |
| pcarver | cathy_: I think the correct link to replace the Gerrit topic is: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:merged+project:openstack/networking-sfc+branch:master+topic:initial-manifesto,n,z | 17:42 |
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| pcarver | it's just a little weird because the actual topic name isn't as natural | 17:42 |
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| cathy_ | pcarver: So we might need to make the topic name natural | 17:43 |
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| cathy_ | otherwise it is confusing. | 17:43 |
| pcarver | cathy_: I'm not sure it's worth changing | 17:43 |
| s3wong | what's wrong with initial-manifesto? :-) | 17:43 |
| pcarver | I was just commenting that it's a bit odd | 17:44 |
| cathy_ | s3wong: what is meant by initial-manifesto? I did not pay attention to this before | 17:45 |
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| s3wong | cathy_: look at the "Topic" field at the gerrit for the API spec (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192933/) | 17:45 |
| pcarver | LouisF: Did you just update the blueprint? I don't think that's quite right. I think we want it to list all the reviews including the one that just merged. | 17:46 |
| s3wong | "initial-manifesto" | 17:46 |
| LouisF | pcarver: ok | 17:47 |
| cathy_ | pcarver: I agree we should list both specs which have many comments since the new one is a rebase of the old one. | 17:47 |
| cathy_ | #action Louis update the BP to refer to both specs which have all the reviews | 17:48 |
| pcarver | And multiple links to the correct info should help improve the ranking in search engine results. I'll update the wiki to point to the blueprint and the API spec | 17:48 |
| cathy_ | pcarver: Thanks! | 17:49 |
| cathy_ | #action pcarver updates the wiki to point to the blueprint and the API spec | 17:49 |
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| cathy_ | Just an update on the API implementation. We are almost done and will post it for review mid next week. | 17:50 |
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| cathy_ | Any other issues for discussion? | 17:51 |
| pcarver | cathy_: roughly where in the code are you working on the implementation? | 17:51 |
| cathy_ | pcarver: not sure what you mean? | 17:51 |
| s3wong | cathy_: may be worthwhile to put unfinished patches on gerrit for early review (with workflow set to -1) | 17:52 |
| pcarver | I mean where is the flow table manipulation happening? | 17:52 |
| cathy_ | pcarver: We will add SFC API handling and DB codes in the Neutron Server | 17:52 |
| s3wong | pcarver: flow table? the OVS flow table? | 17:53 |
| pcarver | I'm not sure if we'll be able to leverage any of it, but AT&T is in the process of open sourcing some code we did for a number of OvS manipulations including flow steering | 17:53 |
| cathy_ | pcarver: that is in the OVS Agent on the compute node in the data path if I understand your quesiton correctly | 17:53 |
| pcarver | s3wong: Yes, I'm asking about the actual mechanics of the implementation | 17:53 |
| LouisF | pcarver: is you can share that would be useful | 17:53 |
| LouisF | if | 17:53 |
| s3wong | pcarver: and the code you guys will open-source is not OpenStack related code? | 17:54 |
| pcarver | LouisF: I'll share once we get it out in the open. It's software that started out in AT&T Labs research for QoS and was subsequently enhanced for flow steering and some work has been looked at for port mirroring | 17:54 |
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| LouisF | pcarver: great | 17:54 |
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| pcarver | s3wong: correct. It was built to work with OpenStack (uses Keystone and Neutron APIs) but manipulates OvS independently of Neutron. | 17:55 |
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| pcarver | We just recently got VP approval to open source it, but it needs to be cleaned up before release | 17:55 |
| pcarver | mostly on the documentation side from what I understand | 17:55 |
| cathy_ | I aasume that in AT&T codes, the OVS Driver and OVS Agent will coordinate together and program the OVS flow table? | 17:56 |
| LouisF | can it operate on conjunction with neutron control of ovs? | 17:56 |
| LouisF | in conjunction | 17:56 |
| s3wong | pcarver: sounds good. Looking forward to seeing it out in the open. Please share with us the github link (I assume you guys will put it on github) once it become available. Thanks! | 17:56 |
| pcarver | cathy_: I haven't seen exactly what's being released. The original implemenation used Floodlight, but there have been changes since then. | 17:56 |
| cathy_ | pcarver: Ok. | 17:57 |
| pcarver | I don't think we would leverage it as a whole, but maybe we can gain something from it. I'm talking to the people who developed it. | 17:57 |
| cathy_ | time is up. Could everyone please go to the new spec patch to review it? | 17:57 |
| cathy_ | I mean review it as soon as possible | 17:57 |
| pcarver | LouisF: For the limited use we're using it for, yes. | 17:57 |
| Mohankumar__ | cathy_ okay , sure ! | 17:58 |
| cathy_ | Thanks everyone for joining the meeting. By for now | 17:59 |
| LouisF | bye | 17:59 |
| s3wong | thanks. bye! | 17:59 |
| jwarendt | bye | 17:59 |
| Mohankumar__ | bye | 17:59 |
| vikram | bye | 17:59 |
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| cathy_ | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 23 18:00:12 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2015/service_chaining.2015-07-23-17.02.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2015/service_chaining.2015-07-23-17.02.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2015/service_chaining.2015-07-23-17.02.log.html | 18:00 |
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