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| davidsha | QoS meeting today? | 14:01 |
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| bklei | monasca meeting today? | 15:02 |
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| s-kawabata | Does monasca meeting take place today? | 15:17 |
| bklei | it's the first week after daylight savings expired here in CO, some folks may not have adjusted their local calendars i'm guessing | 15:18 |
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| s-kawabata | Oh, I see. | 15:19 |
| bklei | or folks are still hungover from too much sake in tokyo | 15:19 |
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| s-kawabata | haha. warmed sake is good from fall to winter. | 15:23 |
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| jobrs | @rbak: even though it seems like the monasca meeting is not about to happen - I am curious whether you have any updates to share regarding grafana2. do you? | 15:27 |
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| rbak | jobrs: The grafana plugin is mostly complete. Give me a second and I'll post a link | 15:32 |
| rbak | https://github.com/rbak1/grafana-plugins/tree/master/datasources | 15:32 |
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| rbak | I haven't submitted a pull request yet since I'm still testing, but this is my branch of the plugins repo which now includes monasca | 15:33 |
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| rbak | I'm now working to see if I can integrate the new built in auth with keystone so that you don't have to just give grafana a keystone token. | 15:34 |
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| jobrs | sounds great! let me know if you need support. we are eager to use grafana2 here. | 15:36 |
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| rbak | jobrs: Feel free to pull that down and play with. It would be great to have another set of eyes looking at it. | 15:37 |
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| jobrs | rbak: will do (fyi, I submitted a blueprint about G2 yesterday - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/grafana2x) | 15:40 |
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| bklei | awesome jobrs! | 15:41 |
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| jobrs | may be we could use the blueprint to discuss (or from my side: understand) how the propagation of the token to the datasource might work (e.g. from Horizon) | 15:46 |
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| rbak | jobrs: I just started looking at this yesterday. I'll post to the blueprint what I've done so far, and update it once I know better how the auth is going to work. | 15:50 |
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| jobrs | rbak: great, see you there | 15:53 |
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| jobrs | rhochmuth: sorry for highjacking. will you take over? | 15:54 |
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| rhochmuth | yes | 15:57 |
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| rhochmuth | getting ready to start in 2 minutes | 15:57 |
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| rhochmuth | #startmeeting monasca | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 4 16:00:04 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 16:00 |
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| rhochmuth | o/ | 16:00 |
| ddieterly | o/ | 16:00 |
| fabiog | o/ | 16:00 |
| bklei | o/ | 16:00 |
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| tpeoples | rhochmuth: not to derail, but due to daylight savings, isn't it currently 1600 UTC? | 16:00 |
| ddieterly | yes | 16:00 |
| rhochmuth | uhoh | 16:01 |
| rhochmuth | sorry | 16:01 |
| alexchadin | o/ | 16:01 |
| alexstav | о/ | 16:01 |
| s-kawabata | o/ | 16:01 |
| edleafe | DST strikes again! | 16:01 |
| rbak | o/ | 16:01 |
| rhochmuth | i guess no meeting today | 16:01 |
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| Ashavskiy | o/ | 16:01 |
| ostroverkhov | o/ | 16:01 |
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| rhochmuth | #endmeeting monasca | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 4 16:01:56 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2015/monasca.2015-11-04-16.00.html | 16:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2015/monasca.2015-11-04-16.00.txt | 16:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2015/monasca.2015-11-04-16.00.log.html | 16:02 |
| acabot_ | #startmeeting watcher | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 4 16:02:08 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is acabot_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' | 16:02 |
| sballe | o/ | 16:02 |
| edleafe | o/ | 16:02 |
| tpeoples | o/ | 16:02 |
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| dtardivel | o/ | 16:02 |
| acabot_ | hi everyone | 16:02 |
| acabot_ | today agenda is #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#11.2F4.2F2015_Agenda: | 16:02 |
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| acabot_ | #topic annoucements | 16:04 |
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| sballe | We had some great meetigns at the summit :-) Thanks to everyone involved | 16:04 |
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| sballe | Also I have an update around the Meetup | 16:05 |
| acabot_ | sballe: you mean the mid-cycle in january ? | 16:05 |
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| sballe | Orran/BU is looking at hosting it because I am not sure Intel can. | 16:06 |
| sballe | Also Boston is a better place than Hudson, MA | 16:06 |
| acabot_ | ok | 16:06 |
| acabot_ | maybe we can already fix the dates today ? | 16:06 |
| sballe | I will follow up with him. We talked about htis yesterday. They already hosted a midt-cycle for keysotn ehtis summer | 16:06 |
| sballe | we were talking about 26 and 27 and maybe 28. Orran needs to see when he has room available | 16:07 |
| sballe | s/rooms | 16:07 |
| acabot_ | ok | 16:07 |
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| acabot_ | coming back to the agenda, we add an email from ttx about using "OpenStack Watcher" as the project name | 16:08 |
| sballe | acabot_: I didn't see the email | 16:08 |
| acabot_ | its confusing because of the big tent inclusion so please do not use it anymore, we should stick to "Watcher" for now | 16:08 |
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| acabot_ | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-November/078136.html | 16:09 |
| sballe | oh ok so it was the "OpenStacK" piece that was the issue | 16:09 |
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| acabot_ | yes sorry if I was unclear | 16:09 |
| acabot_ | Watcher is OK for the project name | 16:09 |
| sballe | ok cool! | 16:10 |
| acabot_ | any other annoucement ? | 16:10 |
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| sballe | nope | 16:10 |
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| acabot_ | #topic Review Action Items | 16:11 |
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| acabot_ | the watcher-specs repo is now live https://github.com/openstack/watcher-specs | 16:11 |
| sballe | yeah!!! | 16:11 |
| acabot_ | jwcroppe submit a first patch to add all templates | 16:11 |
| acabot_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240475/ | 16:12 |
| acabot_ | if everyone can have a look at it | 16:12 |
| acabot_ | we also have 4 core contrib on watcher-specs sable, jwcroppe, jed56 and acerbate | 16:13 |
| dtardivel | acabot_: watcher and python-watcherclient internal bugs have been moved to launchpad. We have to prioritize them now | 16:13 |
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| acabot_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher | 16:13 |
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| acabot_ | does anyone wants to start a bug triage ? | 16:14 |
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| dtardivel | acabot_: I can do it | 16:15 |
| sballe | acabot_: I think one of the b-com folks should do that given that you have it up and running. | 16:15 |
| acabot_ | ok | 16:15 |
| sballe | As soon as dtardivel and I have my env up and running I can help with bugs | 16:15 |
| tpeoples | yeah i think that makes the most sense for the time being | 16:15 |
| acabot_ | #action dtardivel start the bug triage | 16:15 |
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| acabot_ | ok what about devstack plugin for watcher ? | 16:16 |
| tpeoples | still a TODO for me, no updates there. hoping to work on that the end of this week and beginning of next | 16:16 |
| sballe | that is important IMHO but I just realized this morning that there are many pieces to make the end-to-end wathcer thing work | 16:17 |
| acabot_ | tpeoples: ok thanks | 16:17 |
| sballe | so I am not sure what the desvtack plug-in means | 16:17 |
| sballe | does it mean watcher+wathcher metring chain + agent? | 16:17 |
| acabot_ | actually we didn't look at it in detail as there are many changes in devstack for Mitaka | 16:18 |
| sballe | I think that reading ht metrics from ceilomters instead of having to use the metring chain+ agent might be a higher priority and would allow a clean integration wiht devstack | 16:18 |
| dtardivel | +1 | 16:19 |
| tpeoples | ok | 16:19 |
| edleafe | it would also make it easier for deployments using Ceilometer to use Watcher | 16:19 |
| sballe | I am fine with using ceilometer to start with for devstack and not ceilosca or monasca | 16:20 |
| acabot_ | ok so lets write a blueprint on this and give it high priority | 16:20 |
| edleafe | adding agents is usually discouraged | 16:20 |
| sballe | acabot_: +1 | 16:20 |
| acabot_ | edleafe: I agree | 16:20 |
| Dmitry | Hello from Moscow Nova LB team, this is Dmitry Demidov. Let me introduce my collegues Alexander Chadin (alexchad) and Alexander Stavitsky (alexstav). | 16:20 |
| sballe | edleafe: +1 | 16:20 |
| alexchadin | hello everyone | 16:21 |
| alexstav | Hi all | 16:21 |
| edleafe | hello! | 16:21 |
| sballe | hi. | 16:21 |
| acabot_ | hi guys | 16:21 |
| dtardivel | hi | 16:21 |
| vmahe_ | hi | 16:21 |
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| sballe | What is the Nova LB? I thougth he LB effort were in Neutron | 16:21 |
| sballe | unless lB doesn't stand for load-balancer | 16:21 |
| tpeoples | it was the topic that came up in one of the nova unconference sessions | 16:21 |
| Dmitry | yes | 16:21 |
| acabot_ | Dmitry: can you share the blueprint link ? | 16:21 |
| alexchadin | one moment please | 16:22 |
| sballe | ok let's do that under open topics. | 16:22 |
| alexchadin | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova-loadbalancer/+spec/nova-lb-overview | 16:22 |
| alexchadin | #link | 16:22 |
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| acabot_ | sballe: we discussed it on friday, there are interesting things in the Nova LB and we need to see how we can integrate it in Watcher | 16:23 |
| alexchadin | yeah | 16:23 |
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| alexstav | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1G2jYSeDzLD2JjAqZneKGQi2opVI-FIUhu6DeFhGE99Y/edit?usp=sharing | 16:23 |
| alexchadin | we are about integrating our project in Watcher | 16:23 |
| acabot_ | sballe: the nova team agreed it should be done in an external project and suggest to join Watcher effort | 16:23 |
| alexstav | Here it is our specs | 16:23 |
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| sballe | ok. I am just reluctant to have another LB effort beside the neutron one | 16:24 |
| sballe | We need to understand if and how it overlap wth neutron LB. | 16:24 |
| tpeoples | LB isn't the right term, it is the reactive part of watcher for optimization | 16:24 |
| acabot_ | I dont think it's LB like we use to have in Neutron ;-) | 16:24 |
| sballe | ok then it should be renamed IMHO | 16:25 |
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| sballe | because other folks are going to not like the idea either. | 16:25 |
| edleafe | or just integrated into Watcher :) | 16:25 |
| acabot_ | we should all take a look at the blueprint and specs and see how Dmitry's team can improve Watcher | 16:25 |
| alexstav | Yep, it's not assosiated with neutron :) | 16:25 |
| Dmitry | it looks like decision engine inside watcher | 16:25 |
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| sballe | acabot_: Can we get back to the devstack and ceilomter blueprint. Who has the action to write it up? | 16:26 |
| sballe | and it sounds like tpeoples will work on it | 16:26 |
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| sballe | tpeoples: Will you have the time to work on it this year? I think this is super hight priority | 16:27 |
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| acabot_ | sballe: we plan to do it at b-com so I will write down the blueprint | 16:27 |
| sballe | acabot_: great! | 16:27 |
| acabot_ | #action acabot write the blueprint for collecting metrics with ceilometer | 16:28 |
| tpeoples | i will have some time to work on it but if it is high priority then i would suggest someone from bcom since i can't be 100% yet ... acabot_ ok | 16:28 |
| sballe | acabot_: so both ceilomter and watcher integration? and devstack and watcher plug-in? | 16:28 |
| sballe | so two BPs? | 16:28 |
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| acabot_ | we should definitely add a blueprint for devstack if we plan to work on it | 16:28 |
| tpeoples | yes, i would say two bps | 16:29 |
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| acabot_ | tpeoples: can you submit a blueprint for devstack ? | 16:29 |
| tpeoples | i can work on the BP for devstack integration | 16:29 |
| tpeoples | yes | 16:29 |
| sballe | tpeoples: acabot_ +1 | 16:29 |
| acabot_ | ok great, I will handle the other one on ceilometer | 16:29 |
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| tpeoples | #action tpeoples write the blueprint for devstack watcher plugin | 16:30 |
| sballe | acabot_: +1 | 16:30 |
| acabot_ | Dmitry: could you please submit a blueprint regarding how you see the Nova LB integration ? We will iterate on this later | 16:30 |
| sballe | and please rename LB :) | 16:30 |
| alexchadin | we have already submitted two new blueprints | 16:31 |
| alexchadin | about 10 minutes ago:) | 16:31 |
| acabot_ | ok great, #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/watcher-overload-underload #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/add-new-watcherclient-commands | 16:31 |
| alexchadin | so | 16:32 |
| alexchadin | we have one big spec | 16:32 |
| alexchadin | need link? | 16:32 |
| acabot_ | the one you shared previously ? | 16:32 |
| alexchadin | it was introduced at Tokyo | 16:32 |
| alexchadin | yes | 16:32 |
| acabot_ | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1G2jYSeDzLD2JjAqZneKGQi2opVI-FIUhu6DeFhGE99Y/edit to add it to the minutes | 16:33 |
| acabot_ | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion | 16:33 |
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| sballe | alexchadin: Do you have a working prototype with nova or is this still a concept? | 16:34 |
| alexchadin | yes | 16:34 |
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| alexchadin | overload underload is working fine | 16:34 |
| sballe | ok cool! thx | 16:34 |
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| alexchadin | we have repo on github | 16:34 |
| acabot_ | alexchadin: please share the link | 16:35 |
| alexchadin | how can we show our use cases at work? | 16:35 |
| alexchadin | one moment | 16:35 |
| alexchadin | record youtube video?:) | 16:35 |
| acabot_ | alexchadin: yes why not ? | 16:35 |
| alexstav | https://github.com/Stavitsky/nova/tree/loadbalancer-client | 16:35 |
| alexchadin | okay | 16:35 |
| alexchadin | we will record it | 16:35 |
| alexchadin | to the next meeting | 16:36 |
| sballe | alexchadin: Where do you get the metrics you are using? | 16:36 |
| alexchadin | we collect it from compute nodes | 16:36 |
| alexchadin | to nova db | 16:36 |
| alexstav | with nova-conductor | 16:36 |
| sballe | via an agent? | 16:36 |
| sballe | oh I see | 16:36 |
| alexchadin | we have expanded set of data we get from nodes | 16:37 |
| alexstav | To collect CPU and RAM | 16:38 |
| alexchadin | it already balances vms among the nodes | 16:38 |
| sballe | we'll need to find a way to get all the metrics we need in a standard way | 16:38 |
| acabot_ | sballe: +1 | 16:38 |
| alexstav | What do you mean by 'standard way'? | 16:39 |
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| sballe | common way | 16:40 |
| sballe | so watcher has one way to get the data... | 16:40 |
| edleafe | alexchadin: does it migrate existing nodes to balance? Or simply create them in a more balanced arrangement? | 16:40 |
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| alexstav | first | 16:41 |
| sballe | and thta way should be extensible and easy to lugin new metrics | 16:41 |
| alexstav | we use nova-migrate | 16:41 |
| sballe | s/plugin | 16:41 |
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| alexchadin | it migrates existing ones | 16:42 |
| edleafe | alexchadin: ok, thanks | 16:42 |
| acabot_ | ok next topic is blueprints review | 16:43 |
| alexchadin | it's a good idea to use plugin way | 16:43 |
| alexchadin | sorry | 16:43 |
| acabot_ | as we discussed in Tokyo, the first use case we want to handle is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/nishi-ahuja-energy-efficienct-dc | 16:44 |
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| acabot_ | as soon as watcher-specs is ready, we need to define in more details what we need to do to complete this blueprint | 16:44 |
| sballe | acabot_: Yeah I have asked Nishi to split it up into 3 BPs but I think she ran out of time | 16:44 |
| sballe | acabot_: +1 | 16:45 |
| acabot_ | sballe: do you think Nishi can handle specs on this ? | 16:45 |
| sballe | I can help her. The first one we will be tackling is: •Work load migration based on power and thermal data. | 16:45 |
| sballe | I will work with her over the next week to get this done | 16:46 |
| acabot_ | #action sballe add specs for blueprint on energy efficiency | 16:46 |
| acabot_ | regarding jwcroppe patch, we can probably merge it tomorrow | 16:47 |
| sballe | Ok. I will review it later today | 16:47 |
| acabot_ | and start from templates | 16:47 |
| acabot_ | ok great | 16:47 |
| acabot_ | we already talked about bugs, anything to add here ? | 16:47 |
| tpeoples | acabot_: did we get core access to the specs repo? | 16:48 |
| acabot_ | tpeoples: yes, jwcroppe, sballe, acabot & jed56 | 16:48 |
| tpeoples | ok cool | 16:48 |
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| acabot_ | #topic Open Discussion | 16:49 |
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| acabot_ | does anyone had a look at ceilosca ? | 16:49 |
| sballe | I had extensive discussions with the team taht created ceilosca at the summit | 16:50 |
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| sballe | they suggested that unless we need the ceilometer APIs to just go to Monasca but that Ceilosca will scale better then Ceilomter | 16:50 |
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| sballe | But for devstack I would suggest we stick with Ceilomter. for production we'll need to support either Monasca or Ceilosca or both | 16:52 |
| acabot_ | does ceilosca provides any other advantage than scalability ? | 16:52 |
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| acabot_ | compare to ceilometer I mean | 16:52 |
| sballe | if you already have ceilomter it gives you API compatibiltiy | 16:52 |
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| acabot_ | ok | 16:53 |
| sballe | I would suggest we skip it for now | 16:53 |
| acabot_ | lets stick to ceilometer now with a blueprint | 16:53 |
| acabot_ | sballe: +1 | 16:53 |
| sballe | We can revisit this decision for the next release | 16:53 |
| acabot_ | we had a discussion with vmahe about moving our diagrams on the public wiki | 16:54 |
| sballe | acabot_: Good idea! | 16:54 |
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| jwcroppe | here - sorry - calendar was wrong :( | 16:54 |
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| acabot_ | but its pretty hard to maintain architectural diagrams on the wiki | 16:54 |
| sballe | jwcroppe: np. Welcome | 16:54 |
| vmahe_ | yes, we should describe those diagrams as ascii text | 16:54 |
| acabot_ | any other solution on that ? | 16:54 |
| tpeoples | http://asciiflow.com/ | 16:54 |
| jwcroppe | ascii diagrams are good, but also a nightmare to depict some things | 16:55 |
| sballe | that is just horrible :-( | 16:55 |
| sballe | jwcroppe: +1-- | 16:55 |
| vmahe_ | yes but it's easier to read than XMI :-) | 16:55 |
| acabot_ | before we start moving all this drawing stuff, I would like to use the right tool... | 16:55 |
| sballe | +1 | 16:55 |
| vmahe_ | the following tool looks great http://asciidoctor.org/docs/asciidoctor-diagram/ | 16:55 |
| sballe | What are the other teams doing? | 16:56 |
| jwcroppe | this is a much debated subject :) I personally don't mind using Google slides and draw in there | 16:56 |
| vmahe_ | it integrates with PlantUML for describing class diagrams, sequence diagrams, ... | 16:56 |
| vmahe_ | It's harder to version your google slides | 16:56 |
| tpeoples | once we nail down the architecture, it shouldn't be changing that much... | 16:56 |
| acabot_ | http://asciiflow.com/ is recommended in the template for specs | 16:57 |
| acabot_ | can we give a try to asciidoctor ? | 16:57 |
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| acabot_ | for database and architecture schema ? | 16:57 |
| vmahe_ | the good point with ascii description is that it can be handled in the git repo and with git-review as well | 16:57 |
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| alexchadin | so, about integrating nova lb in Watcher, we will record video with our use cases to show how it works. | 16:58 |
| vmahe_ | your diagrams can be associated to a given version of the code as well | 16:58 |
| sballe | I am fine with giving asciidoctor a try as long as we can change if it doesn't work | 16:58 |
| acabot_ | alexchadin: ok thx | 16:58 |
| jwcroppe | sballe: +1 | 16:58 |
| acabot_ | vmahe_: lets try to build 2 diagrams for next week ? | 16:59 |
| vmahe_ | all right | 16:59 |
| sballe | acabot_: vmahe_ +1 | 16:59 |
| acabot_ | ok great | 16:59 |
| acabot_ | so its time to end the meeting | 16:59 |
| acabot_ | thanks | 16:59 |
| jwcroppe | did anyone have any major concern with the specs docs I pushed up? Kudos to the nova team for providing the baseline :) | 16:59 |
| sballe | OK. bye see you in #openstack-watcher | 16:59 |
| acabot_ | jwcroppe: we will merge it tomorrow | 16:59 |
| jwcroppe | thx | 17:00 |
| edleafe | thanks! | 17:00 |
| tpeoples | ttyl | 17:00 |
| acabot_ | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 4 17:00:16 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| vmahe_ | bye | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2015/watcher.2015-11-04-16.02.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2015/watcher.2015-11-04-16.02.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2015/watcher.2015-11-04-16.02.log.html | 17:00 |
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| xgerman | sc68cal are we on today? | 18:30 |
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| annp | Hi all | 18:32 |
| xgerman | hi | 18:32 |
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| xgerman | sridark hi | 18:33 |
| SridarK | xgerman: hi | 18:33 |
| SridarK | we are meeting now correct ? | 18:33 |
| xgerman | yep | 18:33 |
| SridarK | ok great | 18:34 |
| xgerman | though I am not 100% sure since sc68cal is missing + I think mickeys is still in japan? | 18:34 |
| xgerman | so let’s start the meeting then | 18:34 |
| SridarK | i think mickeys was going to stay over | 18:34 |
| xgerman | yep | 18:34 |
| SridarK | we can do a quick one | 18:34 |
| xgerman | k | 18:34 |
| bharathm | o/ | 18:34 |
| SridarK | bharathm: hi | 18:35 |
| xgerman | SridarK you know our meetbot name so we can start the meeting the right way? | 18:35 |
| SridarK | #startmeeting Networking FWaaS | 18:35 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 4 18:35:39 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SridarK. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:35 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:35 |
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| ajmiller | Hi | 18:35 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_fwaas' | 18:35 |
| xgerman | thanks! | 18:35 |
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| SridarK | #chair xgerman sc68cal SridarK | 18:36 |
| openstack | Current chairs: SridarK sc68cal xgerman | 18:36 |
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| SridarK | #topic Bugs | 18:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: Networking FWaaS)" | 18:36 | |
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| SridarK | Not sure if anything new came up - not on my radar | 18:37 |
| SridarK | bharathm: we did get some comments on the FIP NS bug | 18:37 |
| xgerman | well, still need some +2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231246/ | 18:37 |
| SridarK | xgerman: my bad - will get it in | 18:38 |
| xgerman | thanks | 18:38 |
| bharathm | SridarK: Yes and I replied more or less with the same info as your comment | 18:38 |
| SridarK | bharathm: yes - we shd not be making changes in l3 agent | 18:38 |
| xgerman | +! | 18:38 |
| SridarK | and i agree - we shd plan for the refactor | 18:39 |
| SridarK | i think brocade guys also offered to help, but u wanted to work on this as well correct ? | 18:39 |
| SridarK | bharathm: if so i can work with u | 18:39 |
| xgerman | I think we need to divvy up the work better | 18:39 |
| bharathm | SridarK: yeah.. Is there any IRC/etherpad discussing the observer hierarchy | 18:39 |
| SridarK | bharathm: no but pc_m has done this for vpn | 18:40 |
| SridarK | xgerman: yes i agree | 18:40 |
| SridarK | xgerman: IMO, bharathm: came up with this so he has first shot - i kind of forgot during our summit discussions | 18:41 |
| xgerman | yep | 18:41 |
| bharathm | Then I shall check the implementation of this in VPN ... | 18:41 |
| SridarK | bharathm: surely - i had discussed this with pc_m a while back and we can pull in some context | 18:42 |
| xgerman | well, there is also the QoS plugin mechanism we were looking at | 18:42 |
| bharathm | Cool.. | 18:42 |
| * pc_m ears perked | 18:43 | |
| xgerman | nice :-) | 18:43 |
| SridarK | xgerman: sorry is this regarding the classifier stuff ? | 18:43 |
| sc68cal | sorry, I forgot about daylight savings | 18:43 |
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| SridarK | sc68cal: hi | 18:44 |
| sc68cal | my calendar didn't shift the start time | 18:44 |
| xgerman | nope, classifier is a different beast | 18:44 |
| SridarK | xgerman: so which thing on QoS ? | 18:44 |
| xgerman | how to get ourselves notified of neutron router changes | 18:44 |
| xgerman | but I didn’t check that in detail - sc68cal might have more insight | 18:45 |
| SridarK | xgerman: ok i was not aware of that, but vpn will work | 18:45 |
| SridarK | *vpn model will work as an example | 18:45 |
| xgerman | yeah, QoS solves the same problems we have ;-) | 18:45 |
| SridarK | xgerman: ok good | 18:46 |
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| xgerman | I think QoS works on L2… so might not be as applicable for an L3 firewall | 18:47 |
| SridarK | xgerman: yes we basically plug in to L3 agent notifications | 18:48 |
| SridarK | #action bharathm and SridarK to sync and possibly bug pc_m if needed | 18:48 |
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| xgerman | yeah, let’s do that before we get a better handle what QoS does | 18:49 |
| SridarK | ok | 18:49 |
| pc_m | wasn't following the discussion, but if you need notifications of events from neutron, it's easy. | 18:49 |
| pc_m | I can provide info as needed. | 18:49 |
| SridarK | pc_m: thanks | 18:50 |
| bharathm | pc_m: Thats great.. thanks :-) | 18:50 |
| SridarK | Any other bugs we need to discuss ? | 18:50 |
| sc68cal | someone should put something together in devref | 18:50 |
| sc68cal | for registering for notifications | 18:51 |
| xgerman | +1 | 18:51 |
| SridarK | agreed, pc_m: do u know if something exists ? | 18:52 |
| SridarK | ok lets move on | 18:53 |
| SridarK | #topic Summit Updates | 18:53 |
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| pc_m | For notification yes there is. | 18:53 |
| pc_m | We can change offline or in neutron channel, if you want. | 18:53 |
| SridarK | pc_m: +1 | 18:54 |
| * pc_m juggling phone call and IRC :) | 18:54 | |
| SridarK | sc68cal: would u like to drive ? | 18:54 |
| xgerman | First everyone needs to watch our talk ;-) | 18:54 |
| sc68cal | I'm currently on mobile, I thought I had an hour | 18:54 |
| SridarK | :-) | 18:54 |
| SridarK | sc68cal: ok no worries, will update u can chime in | 18:55 |
| sc68cal | sounds good, sorry all | 18:55 |
| xgerman | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/videos/presentation/openstack-neutron-fwaas-roadmap | 18:55 |
| SridarK | Overall Summit Discussions quite fruitful, also met with potential new contributers which is always good | 18:56 |
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| xgerman | yeah, a lot of people showed interest in refactoring the FWaaS API and functionality a bit | 18:56 |
| xgerman | mickeys kept good notes on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fwaas-api-evolution-spec | 18:56 |
| xgerman | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fwaas-api-evolution-spec | 18:56 |
| SridarK | Priorities: API - we close on overall model and we break out into sub blueprints and start pushing things for Mitaka | 18:57 |
| xgerman | yeah, we need to get a spec into the neutron-specs so we can start iterating | 18:58 |
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| SridarK | Also badveli: on SG - some updates - caution from armax on being careful to keep our focus on API. Also some comments from Ihar on overlap with Classifier model | 18:58 |
| xgerman | yeah, sc68cal wrote some classifier code: #link https://github.com/sc68cal/neutron-classifier | 18:59 |
| SridarK | badveli: sc68cal replied on thread - so that is something to consider as well in terms of SG overlap with classifier and look for synergy | 18:59 |
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| xgerman | +1 | 19:00 |
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| SridarK | SG - i meant Service Groups just to be clear | 19:00 |
| xgerman | yep :-) | 19:01 |
| xgerman | we also had some good chat with the SFC people. That will be important for our future... | 19:01 |
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| xgerman | and we are completely aligned on moving from router to the Neutron ports | 19:01 |
| SridarK | that was a high level view, xgerman: , sc68cal: pls add | 19:01 |
| SridarK | xgerman: +1 | 19:02 |
| sc68cal | good summary | 19:02 |
| SridarK | we also discussed some grouping mechanisms (address groups, Port Groups) | 19:02 |
| xgerman | also here is the etherapd from the design session #link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-neutron-next-adv-services | 19:03 |
| xgerman | mostly with the new port focus we will leave DVR as is and provide east-west once we can attach to vm ports | 19:04 |
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| xgerman | there was some talk on the logging API but the first talk was in japanese so I skipped | 19:05 |
| SridarK | Some of the DVR folks were also happy to hear that :-) | 19:05 |
| xgerman | no kidding :-) | 19:05 |
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| sc68cal | indeed | 19:05 |
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| xgerman | ok, if there are no questions let’s move on | 19:09 |
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| SridarK | #topic Open Discussion | 19:09 |
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| SridarK | Next week we will probab have all folks back | 19:09 |
| xgerman | yeah, I hope so | 19:09 |
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| sc68cal | probably others got bit by daylight savings and their calendars not being set to UTC | 19:10 |
| sc68cal | Google really makes it difficult | 19:10 |
| SridarK | sc68cal: i also think so | 19:10 |
| SridarK | I think we start thinking abt specs and build off the things we have | 19:12 |
| sc68cal | +1 | 19:13 |
| xgerman | +1 | 19:13 |
| jwarendt | +1 | 19:13 |
| annp | +1 | 19:13 |
| xgerman | I think once we have that in the specs directory it will be easier to iterate | 19:13 |
| SridarK | agreed | 19:13 |
| SridarK | ok if there is nothing else we can end early and give some time back | 19:14 |
| xgerman | +! | 19:15 |
| xgerman | +1 | 19:15 |
| xgerman | #endmeeting | 19:15 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 4 19:15:43 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:15 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-11-04-18.35.html | 19:15 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-11-04-18.35.txt | 19:15 |
| SridarK | ok folks see u next week, have a good one | 19:15 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-11-04-18.35.log.html | 19:15 |
| SridarK | bye all | 19:15 |
| xgerman | bye, see you next week | 19:15 |
| annp | Bye see you. | 19:16 |
| jwarendt | bye | 19:16 |
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| bharathm | Bye all | 19:16 |
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