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| devkulkarni | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 3 17:00:09 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 17:00 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Roll Call | 17:00 |
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| devkulkarni | Devdatta Kulkarni | 17:00 |
| datsun180b | ed cranford | 17:00 |
| devkulkarni | hi datsun180b | 17:00 |
| datsun180b | howdy | 17:00 |
| devkulkarni | nice to see you | 17:00 |
| datsun180b | and you. surely it's not just the two of us today? | 17:00 |
| devkulkarni | lets give few minutes for folks to join | 17:00 |
| devkulkarni | no, I think folks are wrapping up other meeting | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | meetings | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | I know that magnum meeting is just before our meeting | 17:01 |
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| devkulkarni | hi muralia | 17:02 |
| muralia | hey dev. | 17:02 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b is here too | 17:02 |
| devkulkarni | I was saying that lets wait for couple of minutes to allow folks to join in | 17:03 |
| devkulkarni | in the mean while, here is agenda for today: | 17:03 |
| devkulkarni | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2015-11-03_1700_UTC | 17:03 |
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| devkulkarni | alright. I will get started | 17:05 |
| devkulkarni | so first up is the Tokyo summit | 17:06 |
| devkulkarni | #Announcement | 17:06 |
| devkulkarni | Mitaka summit experience | 17:06 |
| devkulkarni | So it was a good summit for me | 17:06 |
| devkulkarni | Unlike Atlanta, where we all had attended several Solum discussion sessions, there was only one session for Solum this time | 17:07 |
| devkulkarni | About 20 folks had rsvped | 17:07 |
| devkulkarni | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/schedule/design-summit | 17:07 |
| devkulkarni | not all of them came to the session | 17:07 |
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| devkulkarni | but few did show up | 17:08 |
| muralia | nice | 17:08 |
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| devkulkarni | and we had good discussion about Solum's current capabilities and the kind of use cases they were trying to address | 17:08 |
| devkulkarni | hi vijendar | 17:08 |
| muralia | did any of the old contributors show up? | 17:08 |
| devkulkarni | we have just got started | 17:08 |
| vijendar | hi all | 17:08 |
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| devkulkarni | no, unfortunately I did not see any of the old folks | 17:09 |
| devkulkarni | in fact I did not find any familiar faces throughout the summit in any of the sessions | 17:09 |
| devkulkarni | that was actually surprising to me | 17:09 |
| devkulkarni | hi pt_15 | 17:09 |
| devkulkarni | we have just got started | 17:09 |
| devkulkarni | the summit venue was distributed | 17:09 |
| pt_15 | hi devkulkarni | 17:09 |
| devkulkarni | the design sessions were in one hotel, while the talks/presentations were in a different hotel | 17:10 |
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| devkulkarni | I was mostly attending the talks/presentations | 17:10 |
| devkulkarni | except for our solum session which was scheduled in the hotel where design summit was being held | 17:10 |
| devkulkarni | I saw that there were several talks focussing on some variation of paas, ci/cd, source code to deployment, application containers, container scheduling, container security, etc. | 17:11 |
| devkulkarni | I attended almost all of these | 17:11 |
| devkulkarni | seeing that folks are building custom solutions for application deployment using containers, I felt that solum would be a very attractive solution for such groups/folks | 17:12 |
| devkulkarni | so I have already reached to out some of them | 17:12 |
| devkulkarni | and will reach out to others today/tomorrow | 17:13 |
| devkulkarni | explaining the current solum features/capabilities, how it is built around all the native openstack services | 17:13 |
| devkulkarni | so in that sense it was exciting | 17:14 |
| muralia | ya | 17:14 |
| devkulkarni | lets see if we can get some of these folks on board with either using solum or contributing to it | 17:14 |
| devkulkarni | which brings me to my presentation | 17:14 |
| devkulkarni | the main point that I made was to explain the value proposition of solum and an appeal to operators and developers to give it a try | 17:15 |
| devkulkarni | I have uploaded the presentation to slideshare | 17:15 |
| devkulkarni | #link http://www.slideshare.net/devkulkarni/solum-openstack-paas-alm | 17:15 |
| devkulkarni | before leaving for the summit, I was also able to cut a video of the latest capabilities | 17:16 |
| devkulkarni | check out the video whenever you get a chance | 17:16 |
| devkulkarni | #link https://vimeo.com/143425822 | 17:16 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b you would be happy to see that the demo video contains workflow example | 17:16 |
| datsun180b | nice | 17:16 |
| devkulkarni | yep | 17:17 |
| devkulkarni | I might do a short write up on summit experience, impressions, thoughts | 17:17 |
| devkulkarni | also to include some of the talks that I think some of you would be really interested in | 17:17 |
| devkulkarni | for instance, there was talk by ibm folks on docker security | 17:18 |
| devkulkarni | it was very relevant to the kind of issues that we had encountered in solum-worker for building LPs and DUs | 17:18 |
| devkulkarni | you all will find it very interesting | 17:19 |
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| muralia | cool | 17:19 |
| muralia | looking forward to it. were those talks recorded? | 17:19 |
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| devkulkarni | sorry, machine just restarted | 17:21 |
| devkulkarni | muralia: yes | 17:21 |
| muralia | ok good | 17:21 |
| devkulkarni | that talk was recorded | 17:21 |
| devkulkarni | only the design summit sessions/talks were not recorded | 17:21 |
| devkulkarni | so solum talk is not recorded | 17:21 |
| devkulkarni | alright, ping me if you want to more about the summit from solum pov | 17:22 |
| devkulkarni | next announcement is | 17:22 |
| devkulkarni | Bug cleanup | 17:22 |
| devkulkarni | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bugs?orderby=status&start=0 | 17:23 |
| devkulkarni | Yesterday I spent some time going through our bug list in solum | 17:23 |
| devkulkarni | and cleaned it up | 17:23 |
| devkulkarni | now every bug has a tag | 17:23 |
| devkulkarni | I have added tags such as 'solum-api', solum-worker, etc. | 17:23 |
| devkulkarni | these basically indicate the service the bug is supposed to be either present or should be addressed in | 17:24 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar, pt_15: I would encourage you to use the tags to filter the bugs | 17:24 |
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| devkulkarni | imo, the bugs which are tagged solum-*, functional-tests, and documentation are probably the most important one for us right now | 17:25 |
| vijendar | devananda: sure. thanks for cleanup | 17:25 |
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| vijendar | devkulkarni: ^^ | 17:26 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar: np. actually is was good that you asked me about it | 17:26 |
| pt_15 | devkulkarni: ok, sure :) | 17:26 |
| devkulkarni | actually while we are discussing about bugs, I want to jump ahead and check about a topic that I have listed in open discussion | 17:26 |
| devkulkarni | I was thinking that, now that we have bugs curated, what do you all feel about a bug squash day/half-day sometime before the end of the year? | 17:27 |
| devkulkarni | especially, muralia and datsun180b, do you guys might have half day may for this event? | 17:28 |
| vijendar | devkulkarni: sound good to me | 17:28 |
| devkulkarni | I could check if we can arrange something in racker rally room in austin office for those of us who are in austin | 17:29 |
| muralia | sure. i can help | 17:29 |
| devkulkarni | cool.. that is awesome muralia and vijendar | 17:29 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b: how about you? any chance this might work for you? | 17:29 |
| datsun180b | i don't know that I'll be able to lean in on that | 17:30 |
| devkulkarni | sure datsun180b | 17:30 |
| devkulkarni | I can understand | 17:30 |
| devkulkarni | muralia, vijendar: let me check with james_li as well if he might be interested/available | 17:30 |
| vijendar | ok | 17:31 |
| devkulkarni | alright. this is good. datsun180b you can join us if you have time.. | 17:32 |
| devkulkarni | we will be on irc as well | 17:32 |
| devkulkarni | so pt_15 you can join us as well if you have time | 17:32 |
| devkulkarni | I will propose couple of days and send out an email | 17:32 |
| pt_15 | devkulkarni: sure, that would be great! :D | 17:32 |
| devkulkarni | muralia, vijendar: for me, preferred date is sometime before November 25th. I will be traveling to India from thanks giving onwards and will be back in Austin after new years. I will be working from Pune for couple of weeks. so it should be okay if we plan something in december. But if we plan something before november 25th, we can all be in racker rally room hacking together | 17:34 |
| devkulkarni | let me know if sometime before november 25th would work for you | 17:35 |
| devkulkarni | don't have to be right now | 17:35 |
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| devkulkarni | you can let me know sometime in next couple of days | 17:35 |
| muralia | ok | 17:35 |
| vijendar | ok | 17:35 |
| devkulkarni | cool.. thanks muralia, vijendar | 17:35 |
| devkulkarni | alright, lets move on to next topic | 17:36 |
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| devkulkarni | #topic Review Action Items | 17:36 |
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| devkulkarni | devkulkarni to figure out how to retire solum readthedocs | 17:36 |
| devkulkarni | this is still pending | 17:36 |
| devkulkarni | will carry it forward | 17:36 |
| devkulkarni | #action devkulkarni to figure out how to retire solum readthedocs | 17:36 |
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| devkulkarni | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion | 17:37 |
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| devkulkarni | 1) Gate is broken | 17:37 |
| devkulkarni | looks like the devstack gate is still broken | 17:37 |
| vijendar | yes | 17:37 |
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| vijendar | devkulkarni: are you going to look into that? | 17:38 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar do you have the link for your patch for which dvsm is failing? | 17:38 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar: yes, I will be looking into it today/tomorrow | 17:38 |
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| devkulkarni | muralia, datsun180b: in the meanwhile, please review the log patches submitted by vijendar | 17:38 |
| devkulkarni | on api and cli | 17:38 |
| muralia | sure | 17:39 |
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| devkulkarni | I would like to get them merged soon | 17:39 |
| vijendar | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237088/ | 17:39 |
| vijendar | this one is failing the devstack gate | 17:39 |
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| devkulkarni | that is the last thing remaining before we can call the app and workflow resource implementation done | 17:39 |
| muralia | will wait for +1 from jenkins | 17:40 |
| datsun180b | looks like some recent devstack failures are due to the deprecation of devstack/libs and devstack/extras.d | 17:40 |
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| devkulkarni | datsun180b: which one in particular? we know that that deprecation is going to eventually cause solum to break, but that is still about 4 to 5 weeks out | 17:41 |
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| devkulkarni | the gate failure just before the summit week was due to tempest-lib | 17:41 |
| datsun180b | http://logs.openstack.org/46/239446/2/check/gate-solum-devstack-dsvm/07f99e8/console.html.gz just picked the first failed review and looked through the logs | 17:42 |
| datsun180b | there's some complaining that those two directories no longer exist | 17:42 |
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| devkulkarni | datsun180b: ok, I see that error | 17:43 |
| devkulkarni | that is easy to fix | 17:43 |
| devkulkarni | I thought I had fixed it in my patch before the summit | 17:44 |
| devkulkarni | let me check | 17:44 |
| datsun180b | that might just be an old review that hasn't been refreshed since | 17:44 |
| devkulkarni | https://github.com/openstack/solum/blob/master/functionaltests/pre_test_hook.sh | 17:45 |
| devkulkarni | no, it has been removed | 17:45 |
| devkulkarni | I mean't, no it has not been removed | 17:45 |
| devkulkarni | we are not using barbican right now, so I might just remove those lines | 17:46 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b: although, I don't think those errors are what vijendar's patch is failing on | 17:46 |
| datsun180b | which of vijendar's patches? | 17:46 |
| devkulkarni | #link http://logs.openstack.org/88/237088/4/check/gate-solum-devstack-dsvm/758dd7d/ | 17:47 |
| datsun180b | response = ask('Proceed (y/n)? ', ('y', 'n')) | 17:48 |
| datsun180b | well that's something | 17:48 |
| datsun180b | looks like pip thinks it's running in an interactive terminal | 17:48 |
| devkulkarni | yeah, I had seen that in my patch to upgrade tempest-lib | 17:49 |
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| datsun180b | it's the pip cache on jenkins | 17:49 |
| devkulkarni | but the job was proceeding forward | 17:49 |
| datsun180b | /home/jenkins/.cache/pip/http | 17:49 |
| devkulkarni | so you are saying, we should use pip install with no interaction option and a flag that indicates cache should not be used? | 17:50 |
| datsun180b | well maybe it's a red herring | 17:50 |
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| devkulkarni | no, I think it is a good suggestion | 17:50 |
| devkulkarni | at least something to begin with | 17:51 |
| devkulkarni | I will try it as the first option | 17:51 |
| datsun180b | these logs have captured the request and response content in stdout, what's with that | 17:51 |
| devkulkarni | also, will get rid of barbican lines | 17:51 |
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| datsun180b | must be tempest I guess | 17:51 |
| devkulkarni | yeah, I had noticed that.. looks like tempest-lib is spitting them out | 17:51 |
| devkulkarni | yeah | 17:51 |
| devkulkarni | alright, I think this was good discussion datsun180b | 17:52 |
| devkulkarni | just couple more points for today | 17:52 |
| datsun180b | looks like it's just IndexOutOfRange during lp delete | 17:52 |
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| devkulkarni | datsun180b: yes, it was that I remember | 17:53 |
| devkulkarni | but that error must be happening due to some other issue | 17:53 |
| devkulkarni | as those tests have been working fine | 17:53 |
| devkulkarni | still, will look closely at what is going on | 17:54 |
| devkulkarni | we need to fix the gate asap so that vijendar and pt_15's patches can land | 17:54 |
| devkulkarni | the last topic that I had was about solum-release | 17:55 |
| devkulkarni | there have been lot of changes to the way release management is being planned for the mitaka cycle | 17:55 |
| devkulkarni | you must have seen emails from dhellman in this regard | 17:55 |
| devkulkarni | I am thinking of tagging a release of solum and python-solumclient once we land vijendar's patches | 17:56 |
| devkulkarni | that will logically complete the app and workflow transition work | 17:56 |
| devkulkarni | so that was all I had | 17:57 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Open Discussion | 17:57 |
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| devkulkarni | pt_15: how is your devstack setup coming along? | 17:57 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar: is devstack working for you? | 17:57 |
| vijendar | devkulkarni: yes. it is working | 17:57 |
| devkulkarni | cool | 17:58 |
| pt_15 | devkulkarni: I haven't been able to try out the alternate method yet, I will try it out this week | 17:58 |
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| devkulkarni | pt_15: sure, sounds good | 17:58 |
| devkulkarni | ping me if you are running into issues | 17:59 |
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| pt_15 | devkulkarni: sure, I will :) | 17:59 |
| devkulkarni | based on what vijendar tried, I know that straight vagrant is now back to working condition | 17:59 |
| devkulkarni | so if you have a machine that has enough memory and good network connectivity then vagrant would be easiest | 18:00 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar: how much memory are you allocating to your vagrant vm? | 18:00 |
| vijendar | 7GB | 18:00 |
| devkulkarni | I see | 18:00 |
| devkulkarni | pt_15: you can try setting your vagrant file's vm setting to that | 18:01 |
| devkulkarni | and see if it works for you | 18:01 |
| devkulkarni | alright, we are past the meeting hour | 18:01 |
| devkulkarni | see you in solum | 18:01 |
| devkulkarni | thanks everyone for attending today | 18:01 |
| devkulkarni | #endmeeting | 18:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 3 18:01:42 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-11-03-17.00.html | 18:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-11-03-17.00.txt | 18:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-11-03-17.00.log.html | 18:01 |
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| briancurtin | ugh, daylight saving....I'm on the way home now, thought it was in 45 min | 19:14 |
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| etoews | here | 19:28 |
| etoews | briancurtin: here | 19:28 |
| etoews | doh. DST fail for me too. | 19:29 |
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| briancurtin | terrylhowe: fwiw, i’m looking at adjusting our use of occ to support accepting an OpenStackConfig that may come from OSC, or doing the occ work ourselves if the SDK is used directly. should cover both angles that jamie was talking about | 19:41 |
| terrylhowe | so, get rid of the occ dependency, that is fine with me. Maybe just move that code to tests so our func tests continue to work and make occ a test-requirement.txt | 19:43 |
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| etoews | occ is used in the examples now too. | 19:43 |
| briancurtin | terrylhowe: i don’t think we can get rid of the dependency because direct users of the SDK are at a disadvantage. i think we take two branches in the factory - if you passed in an OpenStackConfig, use it, if not, talk to occ and pass in a cloud name and work with it | 19:44 |
| briancurtin | terrylhowe: i’ll try to get it worked out soon so you can see what i mean. i didn’t want to have to depend on it, but the experience becomes a bit odd without it | 19:44 |
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| terrylhowe | that or two factory methonds might be easier. One would just call the other | 19:46 |
| briancurtin | yeah, i might break it up like that, but the differences are really just in initial setup - plus they’re both working with the same data - so it might work fine as one | 19:47 |
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| etoews | i think i was the one who introduced the occ dependency. but fwiw, i'm open to removing it. | 19:52 |
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| briancurtin | i don’t think we should remove it, we just have to work with being passed the data from someone who already processed it (OSC), or working nicely with it for direct users | 19:57 |
| briancurtin | it just becomes from_config(cloud_name=None, config_data=None) or something, and if config_data is None then we do tell occ to open the config, otherwise if it’s not None it’s like the case where OSC would have already handled the config and they want to pass it to us so we’re not double-opening the config | 19:59 |
| briancurtin | that’s similar to how ConfigParser works in a few places, either being passed an already open config or needing a file name to open | 20:01 |
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| briancurtin | we should hop back to -sdks since our time slot is up (though we never formally used it - sorry about that) | 20:02 |
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