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| oklhost | morning | 05:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Use Docker healthchecks for core services https://review.opendev.org/676389 | 06:37 |
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| GeraldS | Good morning everyone | 06:38 |
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| hrw | elo | 07:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Use Docker healthchecks for core services https://review.opendev.org/676389 | 07:47 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard, hrw, yoctozepto: I have split the healthchecks change in two (kolla_docker one, and playbooks one) - I'd be happy if you would finally review it :) | 07:51 |
| mnasiadka | https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:docker_healthchecks+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 07:52 |
| mgoddard | morning | 07:55 |
| mgoddard | mnasiadka: will look | 07:55 |
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| hrw | mnasiadka: ok. will try later today | 08:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: [docker] Added a new flag to disable default iptables rules https://review.opendev.org/692052 | 09:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add timesync prechecks https://review.opendev.org/740585 | 09:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: prometheus-openstack-exporter config service filtering https://review.opendev.org/744457 | 10:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: CI: Add the KVM jobs https://review.opendev.org/741509 | 10:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Performance: Use import_tasks in the main plays https://review.opendev.org/744289 | 10:11 |
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| mnasiadka | mgoddard: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/743923/ - ironic-conductor install broken in stein? | 10:58 |
| patchbot | patch 743923 - kolla (stable/stein) - Upgrade Fluentd Monasca plugin - 1 patch set | 10:58 |
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| Fl1nt | Hi everyone! | 11:23 |
| hrw | hi Fl1nt | 11:23 |
| Fl1nt | @hrw, following our yesterday finding, I've found out that we should/need to pin python-cloudkittyclient==3.1.0, mysqlclient==1.4.6, setuptools==44.1.1 within both openstack-base and kolla-toolbox for CentOS 7 Python 2.7. | 11:24 |
| Fl1nt | the strange behavior from pip trying to acquire mysqlclient 20.x is reproducible with a fresh CentOS 7 install. | 11:25 |
| Fl1nt | at least for the train branch | 11:26 |
| Fl1nt | as train based on CentOS-7 is quite widely spread among Openstackers using kolla, I would be enclined to create a patch BUT, I want to discuss that with you all before going forward with that one. | 11:27 |
| hrw | ah, have to redo yuesterday's patch... | 11:29 |
| hrw | but first fresh centos8 install on remote aarch64 server | 11:29 |
| Fl1nt | sweet, which version do you use? | 11:30 |
| Fl1nt | armhfp or the aarch64 ? | 11:30 |
| hrw | aarch64 | 11:30 |
| hrw | I ignore community build of arm32 | 11:30 |
| hrw | arm32 should be forgotten | 11:30 |
| Fl1nt | cool, how is aarch64 build behaving? Is it stable? Does it have correct repos? What about the performance? | 11:31 |
| Fl1nt | yeah ^^ | 11:31 |
| hrw | Fl1nt: openstack on aarch64 works since liberty. in production ;D | 11:31 |
| Fl1nt | awesome | 11:32 |
| hrw | maybe worked before even but I use since liberty | 11:32 |
| Fl1nt | I'll try to flash my cluster since it's now fully SBBR compliant ^^ | 11:32 |
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| hrw | Fl1nt: sounds like you have pile of r/pi. which can not be sbbr compliant ;D | 11:32 |
| hrw | Fl1nt: uefi+acpi is not 'sbbr compliant' if your hardware is not sbsa compliant | 11:33 |
| Fl1nt | exactly, and it can ;-) https://rpi4-uefi.dev/ | 11:33 |
| Fl1nt | well, ok, but at least I've got UEFI/ACPI/APIC and now can manage my cluster as expected on a more enterprise class cluster ^^ | 11:34 |
| hrw | Fl1nt: can you fetch https://github.com/ARM-software/sbsa-acs/releases/tag/v20.03_REL2.4 and run sbsa.efi on rpi4? | 11:34 |
| hrw | Fl1nt: would love to see results | 11:34 |
| Fl1nt | I can sure ^^ | 11:35 |
| hrw | Fl1nt: and we can continue on priv to not spam channel with non-kolla stuff | 11:35 |
| Fl1nt | well, I can test. | 11:35 |
| Fl1nt | sure | 11:35 |
| Fl1nt | @mgoddard, regarding Openstack kolla community, I would highly advocate for a discord gateway as it would really help us to easily share things such as video/files/logs and pretty much any enhanced content that is currently not supported on IRC as well as the ability to create/record live streams sessions for anyone even in countries where Google is blocked. | 11:45 |
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| rohit02 | hi team,does kolla ussuri supports ubuntu 20 ? | 12:08 |
| yoctozepto | rohit02: not officially but it may work if you skip prechecks :-) | 12:09 |
| hrw | rohit02: officially we do not support 20.04 so far | 12:10 |
| rohit02 | thanx team | 12:11 |
| hrw | there are patch for victoria to add support | 12:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla stable/ussuri: Upgrade Fluentd Monasca plugin https://review.opendev.org/743921 | 12:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: remove duplicate package(planned) https://review.opendev.org/744498 | 12:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix actions for Aodh and Swift https://review.opendev.org/744695 | 12:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Performance: Use import_tasks in the main plays https://review.opendev.org/744289 | 12:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: Remove TODO in libvirt script https://review.opendev.org/741510 | 12:38 |
| rohit02 | hi team,in kolla ussuri nova and cinder supports multipath functinality? | 12:39 |
| rohit02 | if yes how we can enable it in kolla ussuri | 12:40 |
| mgoddard | mnasiadka: looks like ironic-conductor is broken, yes. Added to the whiteboard | 12:43 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: I think I saw the same in train version of this change | 12:43 |
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| mgoddard | Fl1nt: would sharing content on discord be visible on IRC? | 12:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix play hosts for ironic, monasca, neutron, nova https://review.opendev.org/744418 | 13:36 |
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| Fl1nt | @mgoddard, through a URL link but yep | 14:38 |
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| mgoddard | Fl1nt: what I don't want is to split the community | 15:36 |
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| Fl1nt | @mgoddard, yeah sure, hence why I proposed Discord as it's the only one to be truely able to bring together new developpers/interested people/contributor from IRC and others that are more used to new way to communicate. | 16:10 |
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| yoctozepto | mgoddard, Fl1nt: or to rephrase - we can't allow current irc users to get *worse* experience | 16:18 |
| Fl1nt | lol you can't get worse experience than with IRC depending on the standpoint you're ^^ I've talked to rather "young" developers and clearly they try to avoid IRC as much as possible. | 16:19 |
| mgoddard | do we have any evidence that discord would bring anyone to the community? | 16:19 |
| Fl1nt | it worked for ReactJS on reactiflux and many other community | 16:20 |
| Fl1nt | but there are no studies about that ^^ | 16:20 |
| Fl1nt | it worked for gamers, so it should work for anyone else | 16:21 |
| mgoddard | Fl1nt: why don't you raise it on the mailing list? We (kolla) don't really want to maintain our own infrastructure, nor go off in a different direction from the rest of OpenStack | 16:22 |
| Fl1nt | I just don't quite use mailing lists actually. | 16:22 |
| mgoddard | Fl1nt: it is a good time to start! | 16:24 |
| mgoddard | Fl1nt: openstack-discuss is worth subscribing to | 16:24 |
| mgoddard | you don't have to read it all, but sometimes an interesting mail pops up related to a problem you are having | 16:25 |
| Fl1nt | I'll pass on that one, it will clutter my mailbox which is already way to cluttered and I've a bandwith issue for now. Honnestly, IRC and mailing lists are communication channels that works but are not really appealing for newcomers | 16:26 |
| Fl1nt | like | 16:26 |
| Fl1nt | I even have colleagues | 16:26 |
| Fl1nt | that don't contribute back | 16:26 |
| Fl1nt | because they have to setup IRC/Mailing/GITReview etc | 16:27 |
| Fl1nt | where they just have to launch discord/slack and use github for Kubernetes etc for instance. | 16:27 |
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| Fl1nt | It's just a generation collision I guess. | 16:28 |
| r3ap3r | Fl1nt: How would Discord, specifically the video/streaming part, work better for you with bandwidth issues than "kb" sized emails? Not trying to insult, just curious about the logic? 🙂 | 16:29 |
| Fl1nt | I personally don't care as I've used IRC and mailing for decades now, but as a community, we need to have this discussion regarding our tools etc | 16:29 |
| yoctozepto | Fl1nt: well, you can just drop the discord-proposing mail to openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org | 16:29 |
| yoctozepto | r3ap3r: I read it as 'personal bandwidth' | 16:29 |
| yoctozepto | as in I'm doing lots of things and can't commit enough to kolla | 16:30 |
| yoctozepto | because of limited bandwidth | 16:30 |
| yoctozepto | Fl1nt: was not that what you meant? | 16:30 |
| r3ap3r | yoctozepto: oh, that would explain it. My mistake if that is accurate. lol | 16:31 |
| Fl1nt | @yoctozepto, @r3ap3r yeah, not network bandwith, just life/work commitement ^^ | 16:32 |
| r3ap3r | Fl1nt: totally understand now. My mistake. 🙂 | 16:32 |
| r3ap3r | I feel out of place now. Just thinking to myself, "how did everyone know what he was talking about but me?" Haha | 16:37 |
| Fl1nt | @r3ap3r, don't worry ^^ | 16:37 |
| yoctozepto | r3ap3r: you might be the lucky guy around here with no bandwidth issue :D | 16:38 |
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| Fl1nt | all in all, what I wanted to expose is, a community need to adapt its population if it want to grow and continue to attract people. Setting up IRC and mailing list isn't hard at all, I'm OK, but yeah they're not appealing tools and | 16:39 |
| Fl1nt | alternatives that get appealing features are now out there and used by many communities such as kubernetes etc. | 16:39 |
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| r3ap3r | Haha, I wish! My day job is Cyber Security and I do Openstack stuff as much as I can in-between reading SANS articles, white-papers and keeping up with CVE's that are put out everyday. Yeah, not enough time in the day for all this stuff. ;-D | 16:40 |
| yoctozepto | Fl1nt: well, for one I would not ignore the potential of a mailing list; but irc is surely a bit awkward nowadays | 16:41 |
| yoctozepto | r3ap3r: nice, the cyber security is so underrated! I wish companies cared more about it | 16:42 |
| r3ap3r | One of our environments are Openstack, hence me working through the deployment and Admin stuff to get a better understanding for security reasons and then we have VMware infrastructure as well so yeah, I jump all over the place. | 16:42 |
| Fl1nt | it's not just IRC, if you compare our contribution workflow with what is existing in other community, it's harder to contribute as you've to pass through at least 4/5 pages of documentation that aren't really logic to follow. | 16:42 |
| Fl1nt | @r3ap3r, be happy and have a look at VNC/SPICE access :p | 16:43 |
| Fl1nt | just copy/past the URL from a client to another, enjoy your access :D | 16:44 |
| r3ap3r | yoctozepto: it doesn't "make" money unless your company sells those services so it is a "financial black hole" as far as most Executives are concerned. Hence our difficulty in "properly" securing things in the environments. | 16:44 |
| r3ap3r | Fl1nt: yeah, that is one of the more "interesting" things I've come across in this journey. lol | 16:46 |
| yoctozepto | r3ap3r: true that | 16:46 |
| Fl1nt | @r3ap3r, the thing is, it's not that much a security issue because when you're in a DC, if someone let the console logged in, you're fucked too, so it's just a continuity of the real life. | 16:47 |
| kevko_ | hi guys, does anyone meet this "bug" or how I should call it , in your kolla deployments ? -> https://review.opendev.org/#/c/742193/ | 16:48 |
| patchbot | patch 742193 - oslo.cache - Do not hardcode flush_on_reconnect, move to oslo.c... - 9 patch sets | 16:48 |
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| r3ap3r | Fl1nt: our use case is training environments for students in various IT/Cyber Security fields so in our case, it is indeed not that big of a Security risk considering other aspects of our particular environment. It could become more of a problem for people whom serve more "confidential" services via Openstack and other cloud based products that allow those types of Console access. | 16:53 |
| r3ap3r | Work is calling so I will be on and off periodically. | 16:54 |
| yoctozepto | flapping r3ap3r | 16:58 |
| r3ap3r | Meant "sensitive", not "confidential". Crossed wires in my brain I guess? | 16:58 |
| r3ap3r | Should be good now? | 16:58 |
| yoctozepto | r3ap3r: approved | 17:00 |
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| hrw | Fl1nt: mailing lists... people nowadays are just unable to handle more than 10 mails per week | 17:53 |
| hrw | nor know that they can filter mails into folders/tags/labels/whatever | 17:54 |
| dcapone2004 | plus email addressing is the most unused standard....I use it to organize all my email, then use a different plus email address for each mailing lists....keeps me productive and allow me to quickly and easily search for relevant topics | 17:56 |
| hrw | I use discord for some random stuff and not a fan of it | 17:56 |
| hrw | but I am old irc user. since 1996 so probably several potential contributors were not even planned yet | 17:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla stable/train: requirements.txt: pin gitdb(2) versions https://review.opendev.org/744501 | 20:00 |
| hrw | this one should pass | 20:00 |
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| dcapone2004 | there appears to be an issue with using kolla-ansible 10.1 to deploy Openstack Train....the haproxy container fails to deploy properly and doesn't remain started....attempted to deploy using source using Centos on Centos 8 | 20:21 |
| dcapone2004 | was fighting with the configuration for a day as I couldn't understand what was happening....the moment I switched to Ussuri for the release version, it deployed perfectly....I thought kolla 10 supported train and Ussuri, is that incorrect or is this a bug? | 20:22 |
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| kplant | i use k-a 9 for train | 22:53 |
| kplant | i believe k-a 9 is what supports train on c7/c8 and then k-a 10 is ussuri | 22:53 |
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| hrw | always use same release version for both. | 22:58 |
| hrw | otherwise it may explode | 22:58 |
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