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| oyrogerg | yoctozepto: Thank you for response re KA/OSA the other day. Also thank you to whoever set up the channel logging since my scrollback buffer wasn't big enough. | 00:34 |
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| oyrogerg | mgoddard: I would indeed like to hear any thoughts or links you might be willing to share. I will add to my earlier description: We were leaning toward KA last year before other priorities got in the way of the work, and now want to restart. I would like to inform a direction with some comparison that doesn't require full research into both, to record as our reasoning for colleagues and such to read. | 00:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zihao Wang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Change ssh-key to a variable https://review.opendev.org/744593 | 02:19 |
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| oyrogerg | mgoddard: https://youtu.be/0liqSO0SZ60?t=5287 "I'll talk about reasons later on..." but I didn't catch anything after that. Can you fill me in? | 06:09 |
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| mgoddard | oyrogerg: https://youtu.be/0liqSO0SZ60?t=5670 | 07:31 |
| mgoddard | oyrogerg: I didn't do a full comparison between kolla and OSA, only described what I see as some of the main benefits of the kolla approach | 07:32 |
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| mgoddard | oyrogerg: honestly I expect OSA has changed enough since my initial evaluation that it would be unfair to comment on it | 07:33 |
| mgoddard | although I'm sure my decision would be the same today :) | 07:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: Fix play hosts for ironic, monasca, neutron, nova https://review.opendev.org/744837 | 07:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: Fix play hosts for ironic, monasca, neutron, nova https://review.opendev.org/744838 | 07:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/stein: Fix play hosts for ironic, monasca, neutron, nova https://review.opendev.org/744840 | 07:37 |
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| mnasiadka | morning | 08:03 |
| mgoddard | morning | 08:03 |
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| hrw | elo | 08:06 |
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| Fl1nt | Hi everyone! | 08:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix actions for Aodh and Swift https://review.opendev.org/744695 | 08:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: Fix actions for Aodh and Swift https://review.opendev.org/744852 | 08:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: Fix actions for Aodh and Swift https://review.opendev.org/744853 | 08:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: Add support for custom Masakari configuration https://review.opendev.org/744228 | 08:28 |
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| Fl1nt | @hrw, are you there? I've run the SBSA test, 56 run, 24 passed and 9 failed, how can I extract them to something that can be shared ? | 08:32 |
| hrw | Fl1nt: pastebin.com? | 08:39 |
| hrw | Fl1nt: I only need output | 08:39 |
| Fl1nt | well, that my question, how do I extract the output in a file ? | 08:41 |
| Fl1nt | the sbsa.efi file is directly executed ^^ | 08:41 |
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| hrw | Fl1nt: priv | 08:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bartosz Bezak proposed openstack/kolla master: Install Monasca plugin for Grafana by default https://review.opendev.org/676185 | 09:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix fernet bootstrap and key distribution - follow up https://review.opendev.org/707080 | 09:25 |
| oyrogerg | mgoddard: Not much of a comparison with OSA rather with other ways or rather a description of why KA does things that way. All helpful stuff. | 09:33 |
| oyrogerg | other ways e.g. container vs non-container, Docker vs K8s, ... perhaps in other words, avoiding us vs them talk, which can be unhelpful at times. | 09:34 |
| oyrogerg | Anyway I'll keep prodding the topic, because at some point someone will ask me "why didn't you use OSA?" and I want to have a half decent answer given I don't work for a one-person IT shop any more. | 09:35 |
| mgoddard | oyrogerg: OSA either deploys services to bare metal or system containers (LXC). In either case, they're treated like hosts, and you lose the benefits of application containers listed | 09:35 |
| mgoddard | oyrogerg: last time I looked, the bridge networking setup for OSA was very complicated | 09:36 |
| oyrogerg | Aha, that is concrete useful comparison, thank you. | 09:40 |
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| mnasiadka | mgoddard: I think they also support systemd-nspawn, but that doesn't change anything compared to lxc | 09:45 |
| mgoddard | mnasiadka: thought they dropped that | 09:45 |
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| mnasiadka | mgoddard: in centos8 yes, because machinectl needs btrfs :) | 09:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: ubuntu: move to 20.04 Focal https://review.opendev.org/743502 | 09:51 |
| hrw | mnasiadka: it was on bionic due to ussuri not supporting focal | 09:52 |
| hrw | mnasiadka: check result of zuul run on 1st revision | 09:52 |
| mnasiadka | ah right | 09:53 |
| mnasiadka | well, so we're in sort of dead spot :) | 09:53 |
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| hrw | deprecate ubuntu | 09:54 |
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| mnasiadka | hrw: or just use '3' as python version? | 09:55 |
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| hrw | mnasiadka: it should have 3.6/3.8 handled properly now | 09:56 |
| hrw | mnasiadka: but using 'python3' is more sane | 09:56 |
| mnasiadka | hrw: nope it doesn't, if you run focal containers on bionic - it will try to use bionic python3.6 as wsgi script interpreter on focal container images - and boom | 09:56 |
| hrw | ok | 09:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: ubuntu: move to 20.04 Focal https://review.opendev.org/743502 | 09:57 |
| mnasiadka | so let's check '3' as distro_python ;) | 09:57 |
| mnasiadka | ok, back to healthchecks, seems some are failing ;) | 09:58 |
| Fl1nt | use 3 and have an alternative set, it use generic everywhere and get specific when needed that way ;-) | 09:59 |
| mgoddard | we use the minor version in some places | 10:00 |
| hrw | mnasiadka: python_distro_version needs to be major.minor due to us playing with site-packages directory | 10:00 |
| mnasiadka | oh boy | 10:00 |
| oyrogerg | So this leads me to the question I had already thought of... what are the first class citizen operating systems of Kolla Ansible? | 10:00 |
| hrw | mnasiadka: we may move to python3 from python{{ distro_python_version }} | 10:00 |
| hrw | oyrogerg: centos8 | 10:00 |
| Fl1nt | CentOS I would said @oyrogerg | 10:01 |
| mnasiadka | hrw: that's a bigger change, but makes sense | 10:01 |
| mgoddard | oyrogerg: CentOS, Ubuntu, Debian (in that order) | 10:01 |
| hrw | oyrogerg: we support centos 8, ubuntu 18.04 and debian 10 | 10:01 |
| mgoddard | oyrogerg: https://docs.openstack.org/kolla/latest/support_matrix.html | 10:01 |
| oyrogerg | And Ubuntu as second class, then... right. So Ubuntu 20.04 support will presumably come in time. | 10:01 |
| mgoddard | oyrogerg: https://docs.openstack.org/kolla-ansible/latest/user/support-matrix.html | 10:02 |
| oyrogerg | The best kind of RTFM comment: An actual link. | 10:02 |
| mgoddard | oyrogerg: we have quite a few ubuntu users. Majority CentOS I would say | 10:02 |
| hrw | oyrogerg: I handle Debian stuff because Debian/source/aarch64 is used by Linaro. Debian/x86-64 is kept in buildable state. | 10:02 |
| hrw | oyrogerg: most of devs deploy centos 8 from what I see | 10:03 |
| oyrogerg | Good to know. We'll be building it from scratch so we might choose Centos8 to reduce the innovation token use. | 10:03 |
| mgoddard | oyrogerg: remember to change latest to the release name you are interested in in docs links | 10:03 |
| hrw | and for us it is easiest to talk to/with centos/rdo teams when we have issues | 10:03 |
| oyrogerg | mgoddard: For sure. I spend a bit of time at docs.os.org | 10:03 |
| mnasiadka | hrw, mgoddard: or distinct host_python_version from container_python_version ;) | 10:04 |
| hrw | mnasiadka: go for it! | 10:04 |
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| mgoddard | mnasiadka: it is distinct | 10:04 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: where | 10:04 |
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| mnasiadka | ? | 10:04 |
| mnasiadka | we use distro_python_version in wsgi scripts | 10:05 |
| mgoddard | mnasiadka: host version was in the baremetal role defaults in train. Looks like it was not needed after C7 removal | 10:05 |
| mgoddard | distro_python_version is container versino | 10:05 |
| mnasiadka | so then just setting it to 3.8 for focal should work | 10:06 |
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| mgoddard | mnasiadka: ignore me, was looking at stein. host_python_version still present | 10:06 |
| oyrogerg | Mini rant: I do want those "This release is under development. The current supported release is <link to version>" would link to current page at version, not to docs.os.org/version/ cf ah-may-zing Postgresql doco. | 10:07 |
| mgoddard | mnasiadka, hrw: we did this in train for CentOS 7/8. Just look at what we did | 10:07 |
| oyrogerg | Wrong channel I know. But, mini-rant over. | 10:07 |
| mgoddard | oyrogerg: indeed. wrong channel :) | 10:07 |
| mnasiadka | hrw: I think in PS4 everything went fine? | 10:08 |
| mgoddard | hrw, mnasiadka: https://opendev.org/openstack/kolla-ansible/src/branch/stable/train/ansible/group_vars/all.yml#L1132 | 10:08 |
| hrw | mnasiadka: yep | 10:09 |
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| mnasiadka | mgoddard: it won't help, in upgrade job we are running focal containers on bionic host - taking distro_python_version from bionic host won't help, because it's 3.8 in focal and 3.6 in bionic :) | 10:09 |
| mgoddard | mnasiadka: ah | 10:09 |
| mnasiadka | hrw: so let's revert to PS4, fix the ceph upgrade job, because it was running on focal instead of bionic and we should be good :) | 10:10 |
| mgoddard | so override in config? | 10:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: ubuntu: move to 20.04 Focal https://review.opendev.org/743502 | 10:12 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: but why? distro_python_version 3.8 will work fine, at least it did in PS4 - the only jobs that failed were ceph ones - one because of mariadb, second (upgrade) because it was running on focal instead of bionic | 10:13 |
| mgoddard | it will fail on bionic | 10:14 |
| mgoddard | we discussed this upgrade in last weeks meeting | 10:14 |
| mgoddard | whether to upgrade on bionic or focal | 10:14 |
| mnasiadka | it will fail on focal, because we don't support focal in ussuri | 10:14 |
| mgoddard | deja vu | 10:15 |
| mnasiadka | why will it fail on bionic? | 10:15 |
| mgoddard | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2020/kolla.2020-07-29-15.00.log.txt | 10:15 |
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| mgoddard | oops, forgot my action item to email ML about this... | 10:18 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: well, I see that we want to support bionic in victoria, so the direction is correct to use bionic in the upgrade job | 10:20 |
| mgoddard | mnasiadka: I don't think it's quite decided yet, but that probably makes sense | 10:21 |
| mgoddard | and yes, I suppose given that this is the version in the container, 3.8 should be fine | 10:21 |
| mnasiadka | yeah, distro_python_version variable name is a bit funny :) | 10:21 |
| jbalciunas | mgoddard: any plans for 10.1.1 for Ussuri? | 11:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla master: Add missing horizon plugins for debian based OS https://review.opendev.org/744452 | 11:41 |
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| mnasiadka | hmm, wonder why this only happens on debian aarch64 upgrade job: 2020-08-05 10:14:11 +0000 [error]: config error file="/etc/td-agent/td-agent.conf" error_class=Fluent::ConfigError error="out_file: `/var/log/kolla/glance-tls-proxy/glance-tls-proxy.20200805.log.gz` is not writable" | 11:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nikolaos Parasyris proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Enable glance role to copy extra configuration https://review.opendev.org/743578 | 12:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: Fix play hosts for ironic, monasca, neutron, nova https://review.opendev.org/744837 | 12:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: Fix play hosts for ironic, monasca, neutron, nova https://review.opendev.org/744838 | 12:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/stein: Fix play hosts for ironic, monasca, neutron, nova https://review.opendev.org/744840 | 12:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix glance-tls-proxy logrotate https://review.opendev.org/744900 | 12:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Use Docker healthchecks for core services https://review.opendev.org/676389 | 13:25 |
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| mgoddard | wuchunyang: you keep dropping your connection | 14:06 |
| wuchunyang | yeah, I don't have a good solution... | 14:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: Fix actions for Aodh and Swift https://review.opendev.org/744852 | 14:18 |
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| yoctozepto | mgoddard: I wonder if discord would help wuchunyang | 14:41 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto: why don't you ask? | 14:41 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: kinda did that | 14:45 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: can rephrase | 14:45 |
| yoctozepto | wuchunyang: would discord work better than irc for you? | 14:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: [docker] Added a new flag to disable default iptables rules https://review.opendev.org/744919 | 14:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: [docker] Added a new flag to disable default iptables rules https://review.opendev.org/744919 | 14:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: [docker] Added a new flag to disable default iptables rules https://review.opendev.org/744920 | 14:46 |
| wuchunyang | irc works for me ,, but always disconnect .. | 14:47 |
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| wuchunyang | i have never used discord before... | 14:49 |
| mgoddard | mgoddard mnasiadka hrw egonzalez yoctozepto rafaelweingartne cosmicsound osmanlicilegi bbezak | 14:51 |
| mgoddard | meeting in 10 ^ | 14:51 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: :-) | 14:51 |
| yoctozepto | wuchunyang: understood, thanks for feedback | 14:51 |
| wuchunyang | it‘s noting | 14:53 |
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| mgoddard | #startmeeting kolla | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 5 15:01:52 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mgoddard. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 15:01 |
| mgoddard | #topic rollcall | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:01 | |
| mgoddard | \o | 15:02 |
| priteau | o/ | 15:02 |
| yoctozepto | o/ | 15:02 |
| mnasiadka | o/ | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | #topic agenda | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:04 | |
| mgoddard | * Roll-call | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Announcements | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | ** Kolla kall tomorrow | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Review action items from last meeting | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * CI status | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Victoria release planning (kayobe) | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Victoria release planning (kolla & kolla ansible) | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Kolla klub and kall | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | #topic announcements | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:04 | |
| mgoddard | #info Kolla kall tomorrow | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | #info mgoddard talked about Kayobe & Kolla: https://youtu.be/0liqSO0SZ60?t=4842 | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | virtual open infra meetup london/manchester | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | Any others? | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | #topic Review action items from last meeting | 15:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review action items from last meeting (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:07 | |
| mgoddard | mgoddard to message openstack-discuss about focal & victoria upgrade | 15:07 |
| mgoddard | I did not | 15:07 |
| mgoddard | I was going to earlier, but thought I'd wait until after we discuss it today | 15:07 |
| mgoddard | #topic CI status | 15:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI status (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:07 | |
| bbezak | o/ | 15:07 |
| mgoddard | we have a few issue | 15:07 |
| mgoddard | Kolla | 15:08 |
| mgoddard | Train: gitdb issue https://review.opendev.org/#/c/744501 | 15:08 |
| patchbot | patch 744501 - kolla (stable/train) - requirements.txt: pin gitdb(2) versions - 2 patch sets | 15:08 |
| mgoddard | Stein: ironic-conductor broken: https://27734da6eed83e608576-333f8b549856196606ae2476154ba69d.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/743923/1/gate/kolla-build-centos-source/10d084d/kolla/build/000_FAILED_ironic-conductor.log | 15:08 |
| mgoddard | hrw: around? | 15:08 |
| mgoddard | I guess not | 15:10 |
| mgoddard | mnasiadka: did you look into that ironic issue any further? | 15:11 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: nope, can do tomorrow | 15:11 |
| mgoddard | ok | 15:11 |
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| mgoddard | #action mnasiadka to look into kolla stein ironic-conductor failure | 15:12 |
| mgoddard | thanks | 15:12 |
| mgoddard | otherwise I think we are mostly ok | 15:12 |
| mgoddard | #topic Victoria release planning (kayobe) | 15:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Victoria release planning (kayobe) (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:13 | |
| mgoddard | Looks like it's time to give mnasiadka access to kayobe +2 | 15:14 |
| yoctozepto | congrats mnasiadka | 15:14 |
| mnasiadka | Yay | 15:14 |
| yoctozepto | :D | 15:14 |
| mgoddard | added | 15:15 |
| priteau | Just in time for his holidays :) | 15:16 |
| mgoddard | priteau, mnasiadka, dougsz: anything to say about kayobe this week? | 15:16 |
| dougsz | Nothing from me this week | 15:16 |
| priteau | Not really. I am slowly emerging from work on another project, hopefully more time for upstream in August | 15:17 |
| mgoddard | Release still too far away to be busy :) | 15:17 |
| mgoddard | (on kayobe) | 15:17 |
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| mgoddard | I have some performance improvements in the works | 15:17 |
| mgoddard | first some easy wins | 15:17 |
| mgoddard | then some less easy wins | 15:18 |
| mgoddard | but hopefully all wins | 15:18 |
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| mgoddard | One thing we do need to do this cycle is the configuration walkthrough in docs | 15:18 |
| mgoddard | is it something we should collaborate on, or just have one person do it? | 15:19 |
| mgoddard | tough crowd | 15:20 |
| mgoddard | Let's move on | 15:20 |
| mgoddard | #topic Victoria release planning (kolla & kolla ansible) | 15:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Victoria release planning (kolla & kolla ansible) (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:20 | |
| priteau | Sorry, I was in another conversation | 15:21 |
| mgoddard | priteau: no problem | 15:21 |
| priteau | About previous topic, I guess if one person could do a draft to start with | 15:21 |
| priteau | Then we can review and improve collaboratively | 15:22 |
| mgoddard | makes sense | 15:22 |
| yoctozepto | priteau: am I seeing a volunteer? :D | 15:22 |
| priteau | If I have the time | 15:23 |
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| mgoddard | ok, back to kolla | 15:24 |
| mgoddard | was hoping hrw would be here to discuss focal | 15:24 |
| yoctozepto | perf improvements going nicely thanks to mgoddard (and me a bit) | 15:24 |
| mgoddard | mnasiadka: I think you touched it recently. What's the status? | 15:24 |
| yoctozepto | https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/kolla-ansible+branch:master+topic:bp/performance-improvements | 15:25 |
| dcapone2004 | is it meeting time? I lost power and just got it back, so I missed any replies to my questions from yesterday and any activity for that matter... | 15:25 |
| yoctozepto | dcapone2004: meeting running | 15:25 |
| yoctozepto | also a poc fix for the nasty restart-too-much bug: https://review.opendev.org/744207 | 15:25 |
| patchbot | patch 744207 - kolla-ansible - [WIP] Fix looped notifies and optimize further - 4 patch sets | 15:25 |
| mgoddard | dcapone2004: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-kolla/ | 15:26 |
| yoctozepto | it has some impact on perf, makes some things better, some possibly worse | 15:26 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: k-a change looks green | 15:26 |
| priteau | dcapone2004: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-kolla/%23openstack-kolla.2020-08-04.log.html#t2020-08-04T22:58:18 | 15:26 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: I need to analyse services logs and other stuff, but should be at least semi-okay ;) | 15:26 |
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| mgoddard | mnasiadka: ok, guess we can push ahead with the kolla-ansible part? | 15:30 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: yeah, seems like it | 15:31 |
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| mnasiadka | mgoddard: well, actually it has depends-on to kolla change | 15:32 |
| mgoddard | mnasiadka: I think hrw wanted to reverse that | 15:33 |
| mgoddard | although it wouldn't work due to distro_python_version | 15:33 |
| mgoddard | I suppose we have a cyclic dependency | 15:33 |
| mnasiadka | makes sense, that I just noticed that - needs some workaround - but I'll look into it | 15:33 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: we might need to move to python3 instead of python{{ distro_python_version }} in wsgi's at least | 15:34 |
| mgoddard | mnasiadka: I seem to remember the stuff in the wsgi config isn't actually used | 15:35 |
| mgoddard | so we might be able to remove it | 15:35 |
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| mnasiadka | mgoddard: well, keystone fernet also fails on python{{ distro_python_version }} | 15:36 |
| mnasiadka | This one is also easy to remove - either way I'll follow up | 15:36 |
| mgoddard | #action mgoddard to message openstack-discuss about focal & victoria upgrade | 15:36 |
| mgoddard | still need to do that I guess | 15:36 |
| mgoddard | ok | 15:37 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto: so this handlers change | 15:38 |
| mgoddard | we have a few things to consider | 15:38 |
| mgoddard | backporting | 15:38 |
| mgoddard | performance | 15:38 |
| mgoddard | having spent a lot of time improving performance recently I don't really want to go backwards | 15:38 |
| yoctozepto | I am inclined to merge the two tasks into one | 15:39 |
| yoctozepto | the filtered loops seems to be improving perf a lot | 15:39 |
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| yoctozepto | the only hit left would be the include_ indirection | 15:39 |
| yoctozepto | but ansible kinda forces that on us | 15:39 |
| mgoddard | it makes a small difference at scale | 15:39 |
| yoctozepto | the alternative is actually less performant | 15:39 |
| yoctozepto | due to no loop filtering | 15:39 |
| mgoddard | tasks hurt performance far more than skips | 15:40 |
| yoctozepto | so wdyt about merging tasks (to avoid skip and extra task) and pursuing this approach for all? | 15:40 |
| mgoddard | and the include method adds multiple tasks | 15:40 |
| mgoddard | plus the overhead of the include task | 15:41 |
| mgoddard | it's probably more overhead than I have saved in total so far :) | 15:42 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: for neutron the new approach is more performant at my scale | 15:42 |
| mgoddard | what is your scale? | 15:43 |
| yoctozepto | 20-30 | 15:43 |
| yoctozepto | this is because the filtering helped A LOT | 15:43 |
| yoctozepto | as neutron has many undeployed services | 15:43 |
| yoctozepto | so the total amount of tasks went down | 15:43 |
| mgoddard | it will help with an include for sure | 15:43 |
| yoctozepto | but it is a win for neutron | 15:43 |
| yoctozepto | not every service out there | 15:43 |
| yoctozepto | but most maybe hit less than you are afraid | 15:44 |
| yoctozepto | I agree to merge the tasks | 15:44 |
| yoctozepto | one is just perfect for that | 15:44 |
| yoctozepto | also easier to coordinate | 15:44 |
| yoctozepto | but the include_ indirection must stay imho | 15:44 |
| yoctozepto | as I see no other clean-enough approach | 15:44 |
| yoctozepto | I wish ansible just fixed that handlers logic lol | 15:44 |
| yoctozepto | I mean notifies* logic | 15:45 |
| yoctozepto | but whatever | 15:45 |
| mgoddard | +1 for merging the tasks | 15:46 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: could you review https://review.opendev.org/743961 as it's prereq for that fix | 15:46 |
| patchbot | patch 743961 - kolla-ansible - Performance: optimize genconfig - 4 patch sets | 15:46 |
| yoctozepto | we would backport it like the other perf impv | 15:46 |
| mgoddard | include vs not needs further thought | 15:46 |
| yoctozepto | true that, but I can't imagine a solution without getting ansible fixed | 15:46 |
| yoctozepto | might as well employ charms :-) | 15:47 |
| mgoddard | makes sense | 15:47 |
| yoctozepto | :D | 15:47 |
| mgoddard | the other solution is handlers that might do nothing. It's not clean, but if it's faster we should go with it | 15:48 |
| mgoddard | I'll propose it | 15:49 |
| mgoddard | #topic Kolla klub and kall | 15:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Kolla klub and kall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:49 | |
| mgoddard | We have a kall tomorrow | 15:49 |
| yoctozepto | ok, but you are getting the penalty of new horde of skipped tasks instead of filtered includes :-) | 15:49 |
| mgoddard | Continuing the docs discussion | 15:49 |
| yoctozepto | this is why I'm not imagining other solutions | 15:49 |
| yoctozepto | ok, kall | 15:49 |
| yoctozepto | yes, we started exploring kayobe last time | 15:50 |
| mgoddard | I missed that part | 15:50 |
| yoctozepto | I would like someone to chair that | 15:50 |
| mgoddard | will be there tomorrow | 15:50 |
| yoctozepto | we wrote it down for you | 15:50 |
| mgoddard | I can do it | 15:50 |
| yoctozepto | or, well, I did | 15:50 |
| mgoddard | ok | 15:50 |
| yoctozepto | thanks, happy to have kayobe head to chair kayobe discussion :-) | 15:50 |
| yoctozepto | we'll try meetpad tomorrow again | 15:51 |
| mgoddard | re kolla klub, I was wondering if we should break for the summer? | 15:51 |
| yoctozepto | but on problems switch to google meeting | 15:51 |
| mgoddard | attendance has been lower recently, maybe we've reached peak klub and need a break | 15:51 |
| yoctozepto | re kolla klub - agreed, the times are weird due to the pandemic but people want to go holidaying | 15:52 |
| mgoddard | was also thinking we should try another time for people in APAC, if there is interest | 15:52 |
| mgoddard | could potentially run the same onboarding & update sessions with a different group | 15:52 |
| yoctozepto | ++ | 15:54 |
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| mgoddard | #topic Open discussion | 15:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:55 | |
| mgoddard | anyone have anything? | 15:55 |
| yoctozepto | not me | 15:55 |
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| headphoneJames | Does the Nova API wsgi txn need any additional changes? | 15:57 |
| mgoddard | headphoneJames: good question. Haven't looked lately | 15:57 |
| headphoneJames | https://review.opendev.org/724794 | 15:57 |
| patchbot | patch 724794 - kolla-ansible - Add support for encrypting Nova API - 29 patch sets | 15:57 |
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| mgoddard | will try to look this week. | 16:01 |
| mgoddard | thanks all | 16:01 |
| mgoddard | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Vote on Victoria priorities https://bit.ly/2ActPtx | IRC meetings on Wednesdays @ 15:00 UTC - agenda @ https://goo.gl/OXB0DL | Whiteboard: https://bit.ly/2MM7mWF | IRC channel is *LOGGED* @ http://goo.gl/3mzZ7b" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 5 16:01:09 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2020/kolla.2020-08-05-15.01.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2020/kolla.2020-08-05-15.01.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2020/kolla.2020-08-05-15.01.log.html | 16:01 |
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| hrw | sorry about missing meeting | 16:13 |
| hrw | focal changes? I sent them to gerrit and hope that someone will be able to get it sorted | 16:14 |
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| muhaha | guys ? is podman supported in kolla install ? | 16:24 |
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| hrw | muhaha: no. docker only | 16:27 |
| hrw | muhaha: we would welcome patch adding podman or even moving us to podman | 16:28 |
| hrw | but no one has time to write such | 16:28 |
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| muhaha | @hrk ah, ok, thanks :) | 16:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: Fix actions for Aodh and Swift https://review.opendev.org/744853 | 16:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Update TLS documentation https://review.opendev.org/739144 | 16:32 |
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| dcapone2004 | ok, so I switched to Ussuri...and my reliance/switch to using KA for deployment has me a bit behind on changes to openstack deployment and manual configuration files, but I have run into 2 issues.... 1. the ceph.client.nova.keyring file, didn't copy into the nova_compute container despite being in the /etc/kolla/config/nova directory (cinder one | 16:40 |
| dcapone2004 | was in same directory and copied fine) and 2, more importantly because I haven't fixed yet, I do not have external network connectivity | 16:40 |
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| dcapone2004 | in looking at the neutron.conf files and ml2_conf.ini files, I have noticed that there is no bridge mapping section in ml2_conf.ini [ovs] bridge_mappings = physnet1:br-ex .... in trying to find openstack documentation, it seems like this configuration directive might have been removed or moved....is their a new mechanism for associating physnet | 16:42 |
| dcapone2004 | names to bridge names in Ussuri? | 16:42 |
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| priteau | dcapone2004: For your first issue, do you have nova_backend set to rbd | 16:58 |
| priteau | dcapone2004: for the bridge_mappings issue, take a look at the template and what variables it expects | 16:59 |
| priteau | ansible/roles/neutron/templates/openvswitch_agent.ini.j2 | 16:59 |
| dcapone2004 | priteau: think I just figured out my second issue....found an article where the mapping moved and it is set correctly, so think it is a physical networking issue....let me check on globals.yml file | 17:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: Add missing horizon plugins for debian based OS https://review.opendev.org/744452 | 17:01 |
| dcapone2004 | priteau: I dont see that option in globals.yml, I have nova_backend_ceph: "yes" | 17:03 |
| priteau | That does the same thing | 17:03 |
| dcapone2004 | ok, so yes it is set to yes | 17:03 |
| priteau | Ah. By default ceph_nova_keyring is the same as ceph_cinder_keyring | 17:04 |
| dcapone2004 | also have, rbd_user=nova in nova-compute.conf in [libvirt] section in the same /etc/kolla/config/nova dirrectory | 17:04 |
| priteau | If you want to use a different key, set ceph_nova_keyring to ceph.client.nova.keyring in globals | 17:04 |
| dcapone2004 | ah, that must be a change from train....because I thought kolla docs said that it copies ALL keyring files in the respective /etc/kolla/config directories... | 17:05 |
| dcapone2004 | but i see it now in the globals.yml | 17:05 |
| dcapone2004 | I found it odd that the default "USER" is different but the keyrings are the same | 17:06 |
| dcapone2004 | considering the keyring files designate a user don't they? | 17:07 |
| priteau | Yeah it's odd, like a mix of two separate configuration | 17:08 |
| dcapone2004 | yeah, I'm not an expert but would that default config even work? Can keyring files maybe contain the keys of multiple users? | 17:09 |
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| mgoddard | yoctozepto: https://github.com/stackhpc/ansible-scaling/commit/d5b05413e0f1a1aae742d8023508ca4c2bcf5ec0 | 19:33 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto: for 100 hosts, 1m without includes, 1m30 with includes | 19:35 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto: for 10 hosts, 7s without, 9s with | 19:35 |
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