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| ianw | jeblair: hmm, i'm not sure that nodepool gzip patch is working the way i expected | 00:03 |
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| ianw | http://paste.openstack.org/show/121548/ <- no content type there ... | 00:04 |
| ianw | jeblair: i wonder if we need a "AddType text/text .log" or similar | 00:06 |
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| HeOS | clarkb, hmmm. | 00:08 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/project-config: Add tripleo-ansible to #tripleo https://review.openstack.org/128733 | 00:10 |
| clarkb | HeOS: usually for us it surfaces as someone having two acounts because launchpad gave them a new openid for some reason | 00:10 |
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| HeOS | clarkb, two accounts - is a accounts with different openid or what ? | 00:11 |
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| clarkb | yes two different openids | 00:14 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: any reason to hold off approving krotscheck's remove py26 patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128736/2 | 00:17 |
| clarkb | hrm | 00:18 |
| clarkb | it would be nice if that change pinned py26 to icehouse and juno releases for the server projects | 00:18 |
| anteaya | I won't approve then | 00:18 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: want to say that in your review? | 00:19 |
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| clarkb | sure | 00:19 |
| fungi | i think any projects which have a stable/juno branch can have that job limited to stable/(icehouse|juno) | 00:21 |
| clarkb | yup | 00:21 |
| clarkb | I left a comment on the review | 00:21 |
| clarkb | krotscheck is being far too nice and if we leave it up to the projects to deprecate on their schedule we will never deprecate | 00:22 |
| fungi | some quick looping over gerrit ls-projects|grep ^openstack doing wget to git.o.o looking for a stab;e/juno ref will generate the list relatively quickly (i did something similar to generate the list of stable/havana branches for tagging and deleting a few weeks ago) | 00:23 |
| clarkb | wow I don't think I have ever seen zuul be so quiet on a weekday | 00:25 |
| clarkb | non holiday | 00:25 |
| clarkb | I am celebrating juno with a gin and tonic | 00:25 |
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| anteaya | if you discount the 114 in merge-check | 00:25 |
| anteaya | it is a veritable ghost town | 00:26 |
| anteaya | enjoy the beverage | 00:26 |
| clarkb | ya I wasn't counting those | 00:26 |
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| clarkb | maybe I should :) | 00:26 |
| anteaya | nah | 00:26 |
| anteaya | enjoy the beverage | 00:26 |
| anteaya | empty gate | 00:26 |
| anteaya | can't remember the last time I saw that | 00:26 |
| anteaya | oops | 00:27 |
| anteaya | I spoke too soon | 00:27 |
| anteaya | trove patch | 00:27 |
| SlickNik | That was my doing. :) | 00:28 |
| SlickNik | Sorry to break up the party. | 00:28 |
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| anteaya | SlickNik: welcome to the party | 00:29 |
| * anteaya shows SlickNik to the bar | 00:29 | |
| fungi | speaking for forcible deprecation... i'm this || far from telling glance they're no longer py3k compliant and just not testing them on 3.4 until someone rewrites their tests | 00:29 |
| anteaya | help yourself | 00:29 |
| anteaya | fungi: well best to tell them now | 00:29 |
| anteaya | since we are day one of kilo | 00:29 |
| anteaya | that gives them some time | 00:29 |
| anteaya | since if you feel that way, it will only get worse | 00:29 |
| fungi | they've got at least 30 tests which are nondeterministic in the face of a hash algorithm change | 00:29 |
| anteaya | and they aren't going to have more time than right now | 00:30 |
| anteaya | plus if you don't tell them, they are just going to keep creating tests like this | 00:30 |
| anteaya | unless of course you are ranting | 00:31 |
| anteaya | in which case, carry on | 00:31 |
| anteaya | you deserve a little soap box time | 00:31 |
| anteaya | you are usually so busy talking people down from theirs | 00:31 |
| fungi | nah, i'm just trying random solutions at the moment, but getting them passing on 3.4 will probably take a combination of at least several separate solutions | 00:32 |
| anteaya | best to toss it back them with a rewrite instruction | 00:32 |
| clarkb | fungi: I think its fair to punt it back on them | 00:33 |
| anteaya | if they don't know, they will just keep producing this | 00:33 |
| anteaya | you've spent all day on this | 00:33 |
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| anteaya | which is your time to spend | 00:33 |
| anteaya | but at a certain point it is glance's problem | 00:33 |
| fungi | on a positive note, i have yet to identify anything in the client itself which doesn't work on 3.4, it's just their unit test suite is based on some pretty poor assumptions | 00:36 |
| fungi | which leaves it untestable on 3.4 | 00:36 |
| anteaya | you found a bright side! | 00:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Better htaccess for nodepool.o.o logs https://review.openstack.org/129096 | 00:40 |
| fungi | investigated whether there are ways to drop back from sip to fnv hash algorithm at runtime, but alas no | 00:43 |
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| fungi | there was apparently some early discussion of making it runtime-pluggable when the pep was being drafted, but in the end they decided to just hard-code it | 00:44 |
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| ianw | ^ if someone with access to nodepool.o.o wants to quickly test the above change actually sends down gzipped logs by manual edit, that would be cool. i works for me locally but that's just apache on my laptop | 00:45 |
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| fungi | so, anyway, it's highly unlikely that i'll randomly stumble across an initial seed for sip with exactly the same properties across the glanceclient codebase as fnv with a seed of 0 | 00:45 |
| fungi | current pain points are predetermined multi-parameter urls, and predetermined json being used for comparisons against urls and json generated from unordered datastructures | 00:47 |
| fungi | ooh, a hash seed of 12 gets all but 14 tests to pass | 00:47 |
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| anteaya | fungi: ha ha ha | 00:48 |
| fungi | worst i've seen is 30 failing tests | 00:48 |
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| anteaya | so 14 failures is a step up | 00:48 |
| anteaya | so looking at this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128325/ | 00:51 |
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| anteaya | horizon needs to add a lib to get tests working since it is using a thin slave for functional tests | 00:52 |
| anteaya | and unit tests run on a thick slave | 00:52 |
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| anteaya | so should funtional tests use a thick slave too? | 00:52 |
| anteaya | or is the best approach just to install the lib that the macro in the patch suggests | 00:53 |
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| anteaya | so 4 of the config repo patches for tomorrow are in merge conflict: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:config-rename,n,z | 00:58 |
| anteaya | I could fix them tonight and then fix them again tomorrow | 00:58 |
| anteaya | or I could fix them tomorrow | 00:58 |
| anteaya | I'm leaning toward fixing them tomorrow | 00:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alan Pevec proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Add juno compat jobs to the tempest check pipeline https://review.openstack.org/128987 | 01:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Alan Pevec proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Add periodic Juno jobs https://review.openstack.org/128961 | 01:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Alan Pevec proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Add Juno stable-compat-jobs for trunk clients and libs https://review.openstack.org/129101 | 01:04 |
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| anteaya | mordred: from the cats tumbler "might not the beatific vision become a source of boredom, in the long run?" if it is just a vision, perhaps - if it is a vision accompanied by a feeling of all encompasing love? not a chance | 01:32 |
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| fungi | forget samuel beckett... someone should do cat posters with t.s. eliot quotes | 01:36 |
| anteaya | that would be awesome! | 01:37 |
| anteaya | I found mine: http://beckittns.tumblr.com/post/95474546443 | 01:37 |
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| anteaya | fungi: might this be you and glanceclient? http://beckittns.tumblr.com/post/95207509387 | 01:38 |
| fungi | basically, yes | 01:39 |
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| fungi | need moar prickly | 01:40 |
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| fungi | i at least eventually followed the recommendation to stop, seek help on the mailing list, and transition to the drinking portion of my evening | 01:41 |
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| anteaya | I saw the mailing list move | 01:44 |
| anteaya | and applaud the transition to the next activity | 01:45 |
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| anteaya | if that be drinking for you, so be it | 01:45 |
| anteaya | I accept that | 01:45 |
| anteaya | for me it is cat pictures | 01:45 |
| anteaya | enough cats | 01:48 |
| anteaya | onto jack johnson and candles | 01:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Try out later puppetlabs-apache https://review.openstack.org/129107 | 01:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | K Jonathan Harker proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: Reset the client object before creating the image https://review.openstack.org/74943 | 01:59 |
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| liu | Is a third-party-account must be associated with a Gerrit account? | 02:01 |
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| liu | When I edit the wikipage for my third party account with the "Gerrit Account" item, I don't know how to fill in it. | 02:02 |
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| waynr | zaro: can 'defaults' be specified per-project? | 02:03 |
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| waynr | zaro: in jenkins-job-builder | 02:03 |
| waynr | i'm attempting to use the initial version of my patch and realizing that my jobs aren't pulling in any templates (with or without that the patch) specified at the project level | 02:04 |
| clarkb | liu a third party test account is a gerrit account | 02:05 |
| waynr | also, looking at the documentation it seems like defaults are only intended to target jobs and job-templates | 02:05 |
| waynr | :( | 02:05 |
| waynr | for each job in project ;do apply-template ;done | 02:06 |
| waynr | :) | 02:06 |
| waynr | I noticed you didn't object to my usage of "defaults" at the project level in the commit message here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128417/2//COMMIT_MSG | 02:07 |
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| waynr | i can imagine why it would be difficult to apply templats on each job in a project if each job already has template specified | 02:08 |
| waynr | especially with the list-of-jobs change i am proposing | 02:08 |
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| waynr | maybe i'll add some sweet logic to give jobs a list of defaults if they don't already have | 02:09 |
| waynr | (i mean to give them the project-level defaults) | 02:09 |
| waynr | wooo mutable state | 02:10 |
| waynr | er | 02:10 |
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| waynr | whenever i said "apply templat" i meant "apply defaults" | 02:10 |
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| waynr | dang | 02:14 |
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| anteaya | liu you asked the same questions yesterday | 02:25 |
| anteaya | liu: do you see your gerrit third party account on this list? https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/270,members | 02:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Try out later puppetlabs-apache https://review.openstack.org/129107 | 02:28 |
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| anteaya | okay if I don't get a response from liu here soon, I'm going to have to log off for the night | 02:34 |
| anteaya | I know I am percieved as a big meany but it is really frustrating for me when I have zero idea what folks are asking | 02:34 |
| waynr | it's okay to be a big meany sometimes | 02:36 |
| waynr | better than being a small meany all the time | 02:37 |
| anteaya | I've been a big meany for quite some time | 02:38 |
| anteaya | getting tired of it | 02:38 |
| anteaya | it gets old fast | 02:38 |
| waynr | pass the torch | 02:38 |
| anteaya | it is all yours | 02:40 |
| anteaya | you can help liu | 02:40 |
| anteaya | g'night | 02:40 |
| waynr | goodnight! | 02:43 |
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| waynr | i'm actually about to amscray myself | 02:43 |
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| pleia2 | giants \o/ | 03:23 |
| pleia2 | :) | 03:23 |
| dtroyer | :) see ya Tuesday | 03:23 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 03:24 |
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| pleia2 | I'll be traveling for the whole world series, but at least it'll all be neutral territory ;) | 03:25 |
| dtroyer | we don't bite out here, unless you're covered in BBQ sauce | 03:25 |
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| pleia2 | haha | 03:26 |
| pleia2 | we don't either, good to have friendly teams in the series | 03:26 |
| dtroyer | I hope there isn't a game 7, I'll be on a plane to paris | 03:26 |
| pleia2 | unless you're covered in kale | 03:26 |
| pleia2 | ah, yeah, I'm not flying out until the 31st | 03:27 |
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| dtroyer | so wear your shirt, I'll wear mine…I have a feeling I'll be outnumbered either way ;) | 03:27 |
| pleia2 | :) | 03:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Try out later puppetlabs-apache https://review.openstack.org/129107 | 03:35 |
| zaro | waynr: sounds good. | 03:48 |
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| zaro | waynr: i like that change for colon delimited paths (125854). would you be able to add just that little bit of documentation? | 03:50 |
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| jogo | if someone wants to see a scary function | 04:06 |
| jogo | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#n3736 | 04:06 |
| jogo | Cyclomatic complexity of 67 | 04:06 |
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| waynr | zaro: sure thing | 04:19 |
| waynr | i'll try to get that finished tonight | 04:20 |
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| ianw | be nice if the nodepool logs were sent gzipped ... that should be easy <= famous last words | 04:55 |
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| waynr | zaro: it's gonna be pretty difficult to specify defaults at the 'project' without doing horrible things in Builder.generateXML | 05:09 |
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| waynr | especially since multiple projects may use the same job/template/group | 05:36 |
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| waynr | (mutable state)-- | 05:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Wayne Warren proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Accept list of paths in 'path' arg. https://review.openstack.org/125854 | 06:02 |
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| ttx | dtroyer, mtreinish, sdad: should we have a stable/juno branch for devstack? | 09:04 |
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| AJaeger | fungi, the requirements change for pypy is not working as expected - see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129014/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128849/ | 10:48 |
| * AJaeger does not see directly the problem ;( | 10:48 | |
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| dimsum_ | SergeyLukjanov: can you please bless this when you get a chance? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129015/ the actual change is just a environment flag, the commit message is too long :) | 11:40 |
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| dimsum_ | (one liner) | 11:40 |
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| dimsum_ | AJaeger: ah, you have project-config-core karma too, please see if you get chance ^^ | 11:42 |
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| bookwar | hi all, is there a way to remove deprecated stackforge repository? | 11:48 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | dimsum_, approved | 12:21 |
| SergeyLukjanov | bookwar, there is a stackforge-attic org | 12:21 |
| SergeyLukjanov | bookwar, for them | 12:21 |
| dimsum_ | SergeyLukjanov: Awesome! thanks | 12:21 |
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| isviridov | SergeyLukjanov : hello, is it allowed for stackforge projects to create branches? | 12:26 |
| isviridov | SergeyLukjanov : I'm trying to create stable/juno and have [remote rejected] stable/juno -> stable/juno (prohibited by Gerrit) :( | 12:27 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/project-config: Allow non standard docker-py in check-tempest-dsvm-f20-docker https://review.openstack.org/129015 | 12:27 |
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| isviridov | AJaeger: ping | 12:32 |
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| AJaeger | Hi isviridov_afk | 12:39 |
| AJaeger | SergeyLukjanov, Thanks for beating me for dimsum_ 's request ;) | 12:41 |
| AJaeger | isviridov_afk, better ask fungi | 12:41 |
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| fungi | isviridov_afk: it depends on the project's acl. which project is it? i can see if the acl for it is set up correctly to support that | 12:48 |
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| fungi | AJaeger: taking a look at the reqs testing problem now | 12:49 |
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| AJaeger | thanks, fungi! | 12:50 |
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| fungi | hrm, zuul was last reconfigured at 15:36 utc yesterday | 12:53 |
| fungi | and 129014 merged at 19:15 utc yesterday | 12:54 |
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| fungi | that change has not made it into /etc/zuul/layout/layout.yaml on zuul.openstack.org | 12:56 |
| AJaeger | OOps ;( | 12:56 |
| AJaeger | So, it might be correct (good!), just not in place :) | 12:56 |
| fungi | yeah, figuring out why is proving fun | 12:57 |
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| fungi | puppetboard says zuul has not reported for 21 hours | 12:58 |
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| fungi | syslog says the most recent puppet run completed at 15:51:56 utc yesterday | 12:59 |
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| fungi | on zuul | 12:59 |
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| fungi | OH! puppetboard says *no* nodes have reported for 20+ hours actually | 13:00 |
| fungi | except i checked the puppetmaster and the puppet cron looked like it was enabled | 13:01 |
| fungi | but the timing does roughly line up with when it was temporarily disabled to work around the apache configuration issue on the git servers | 13:02 |
| isviridov_afk | AJaeger : here it is https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/stackforge/magnetodb,access | 13:03 |
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| AJaeger | isviridov, fungi or somebody else has to help on that one - you're listed as magnetodb-release which is good. | 13:04 |
| fungi | the script doesn't seem to actually do anything, so maybe someone picked a novel way of disabling it this time other than editing root's crontab | 13:04 |
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| fungi | oh, it's redirected to a logfile | 13:07 |
| isviridov | fungi : hello, is it possible to create branch in stackforge project? I'm trying to create stable/juno and have [remote rejected] stable/juno -> stable/juno (prohibited by Gerrit) | 13:07 |
| fungi | isviridov: yes, i commented earlier. it depends on the acl | 13:07 |
| isviridov | fungi : here is access rights for project https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/stackforge/magnetodb,access | 13:07 |
| isviridov | fungi : anything wrong with it? | 13:08 |
| fungi | looks like maybe this script is written in such a way that when the ansible playbook fails for the git servers (because puppet is disabled on *them*) it bails rather than puppeting any other servers | 13:08 |
| fungi | isviridov: i can look later when i'm not in the middle of a firefight | 13:08 |
| isviridov | fungi : sure. Thank you | 13:08 |
| fungi | i think we were supposed to reenable puppet on the git servers once the fix merged yesterday. i'll double-check that it's actually in place and then reenable puppet on them | 13:09 |
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| fungi | yep, merged at 19:26:35 | 13:10 |
| fungi | yesterday | 13:10 |
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| mrmartin | re | 13:11 |
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| mrmartin | fungi: how can I find the logs for this post job: https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/zuul/layout.yaml#L3029 ? | 13:13 |
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| mrmartin | I guess it is failed somewhere for this changeset: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128823/ | 13:13 |
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| AJaeger | mrmartin, search for "git os-job" and run it from the directory... | 13:13 |
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| AJaeger | mrmartin, http://logs.openstack.org/56/5656f5505436685bc5fdd8e99c01efa0563a3df8/ | 13:14 |
| AJaeger | that'S the latest log | 13:14 |
| fungi | mrmartin: if you're trying to figure out why a change didn't take effect on a server, it's because we inadvertently had puppet disabled. it should get applied here in moments | 13:14 |
| mrmartin | Ajaeger: thanks | 13:15 |
| mrmartin | fungi, ok, it was yesterday, and I guess some job script is buggy somehow, I'll debug and send a fix for that later | 13:16 |
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| parimala | Hello All, | 13:18 |
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| fungi | mrmartin: if it merged after ~1600 utc yesterday, then it's only just now getting applied | 13:19 |
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| mrmartin | fungi, thanks, but it had a different problem. | 13:19 |
| fungi | mrmartin: ahh, okay | 13:19 |
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| fungi | the script has gotten past applying the git0* playbook and git.openstack.org still seems to be responsive | 13:20 |
| fungi | so that's a good sign the updated config is working as designed | 13:21 |
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| parimala | I am trying to create a patch, however, I am getting error "cannot store contact information" | 13:21 |
| AJaeger | parimala, did you signup for the foundation? | 13:22 |
| parimala | how can i come of out this? | 13:22 |
| AJaeger | Did you really do all the steps on the contribution wiki? | 13:22 |
| fungi | parimala: did you follow the instructions at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/How_To_Contribute#If_you.27re_a_developer in sequence? | 13:22 |
| fungi | parimala: specifically, the part where it says "...join The OpenStack Foundation as Individual Member...make sure to give the same E-mail address you'll use for code contributions, since the Primary Email Address in your Foundation Profile will need to match the Preferred Email you set later in your Gerrit contact information." | 13:23 |
| parimala | Ajaeger: I have followed steps for first time contributor | 13:23 |
| parimala | Ajaeger: I have signed the individual contributor license agreement, is that not sufficient?? | 13:25 |
| mtreinish | ttx: yes there should be, I think dtroyer is working on polishing a couple last minute things before he cuts the branch | 13:25 |
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| fungi | parimala: "followed steps for first time contributor" implies you followed all the steps outlined there, including joining the foundation. did you, or did you not, join the foundation? | 13:26 |
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| parimala | Ajaeger: I have not joined the foundation, I have changed my settings in "code review -> settings" | 13:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Derek Higgins proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Document ZUUL_CHANGES https://review.openstack.org/129243 | 13:29 |
| fungi | parimala: you must join the foundation. please follow the steps listed at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/How_To_Contribute#If_you.27re_a_developer in sequence | 13:29 |
| AJaeger | parimala, please join | 13:29 |
| parimala | ok, I will do it now | 13:29 |
| fungi | isviridov: so, the reason it's rejecting your branch ref creation is that you don't have create permission on refs/* | 13:30 |
| fungi | isviridov: you can see an example at http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/gerrit/acls/stackforge/packstack.config | 13:30 |
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| fungi | looks like the puppet update has completed and zuul is showing its configuration changes applied now | 13:32 |
| isviridov | fungi : thank you | 13:32 |
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| AJaeger | thanks, fungi ! | 13:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: remove non-standard-reqs flag from check-tempest-dsvm-f20-docker https://review.openstack.org/129252 | 13:42 |
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| parimala | Ajaeger: even after joining the foundation, i am getting the same error | 13:42 |
| AJaeger | are you using the same email address everywhere? In foundation, gerrit, launchpad? | 13:43 |
| clarkb | fungi I disabled puppet on the git swrvers and :( if that breaks everything else | 13:43 |
| fungi | clarkb: yep, trying to grok the playbook application mechanism now | 13:44 |
| parimala | Ajaeger: yes same email address everywhere | 13:44 |
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| bookwar | have you ever looked at https://github.com/jenkinsci/puppet-jenkins ? it solves the initial authentication and setup problem using groovy scripts run via jenkins-cli. I wonder if it could be used to for fully automatic Jenkins setup | 13:45 |
| bookwar | sorry, this question is unrelated to all the previous discussions here | 13:46 |
| fungi | bookwar: since we're working on getting rid of our use of jenkins, i think nobody's put a lot of thought into that | 13:47 |
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| bookwar | fungi: ah, i see, maybe this might of interest at third-party group | 13:47 |
| fungi | bookwar: entirely possible | 13:48 |
| fungi | parimala: when you go to https://www.openstack.org/profile/ does the "Primary Email Address" you see listed there match the "preferred Email" you see at https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/contact ? | 13:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Mike Heald proposed a change to openstack-infra/infra-specs: Proposal for a 'fail-fast' option on jobs and project pipelines https://review.openstack.org/129255 | 13:51 |
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| parimala | fungi: yes primary email address and preferred email match | 13:54 |
| fungi | parimala: at the top of https://www.openstack.org/profile/ you'll see a link to "See how your public profile appears." follow that and see if it has a "Date Joined" showing there | 13:55 |
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| ttx | mtreinish: there is a thread on the openstack general list which you might want to give a quick answer to | 13:56 |
| parimala | fungi: yes it is showing date joined | 13:56 |
| mtreinish | ttx: yep I just saw it, I'll chime in there | 13:56 |
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| ttx | (http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack/2014-October/009989.html) | 13:56 |
| ttx | mtreinish: thx | 13:56 |
| fungi | parimala: okay, now at https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/ what does it show for your "Account ID" number? | 13:57 |
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| fungi | parimala: i'm going to look it up in the backend database on gerrit to see if i can see anything out of the ordinary there | 13:57 |
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| parimala | fungi: it is showing account id as "13631" | 13:59 |
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| fungi | parimala: thanks. give me a few minutes to check it over | 13:59 |
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| parimala | fungi: sure, please carry on | 14:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marton Kiss proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Fix groups-release-branch manifest issue https://review.openstack.org/129263 | 14:00 |
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| * AJaeger waves good bye! | 14:01 | |
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| fungi | safe travels, AJaeger | 14:02 |
| AJaeger | thanks, fungi! | 14:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed a change to openstack-infra/infra-specs: StoryBoard: story types specification https://review.openstack.org/129267 | 14:07 |
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| fungi | parimala: okay, it looks like the email fields between your gerrit account and your foundation member account do match, and you're showing as a member in the foundation database. now when you go to https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/contact and put something in the "Mailing Address" and "Country" fields and then click "Save Changes" do you get an error message in your browser? | 14:08 |
| fungi | parimala: or after that does it say "Contact information last updated on Oct 17, 2014 at..." on that page? | 14:09 |
| anteaya | congratulations newly elected tc members: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-October/048697.html | 14:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Ilya Sviridov proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Update stackforge/magnetodb acls https://review.openstack.org/129269 | 14:10 |
| fungi | congrats mordred, sdad, dhellmann, russellb, annegentle and jgriffith! | 14:11 |
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| mtreinish | heh, I always enjoy looking at the individual ballots there are always some interesting votes | 14:12 |
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| fungi | 26.7% voter turnout. could have been worse! | 14:15 |
| fungi | pretty awesome that one in four of the couple thousand people who got at least one git commit into an official project over the past year voted in the tc election | 14:16 |
| clarkb | yup I still think we make voting opt in though | 14:17 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: ++ | 14:20 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: true | 14:21 |
| anteaya | I'm looking forward to ttx's analysis | 14:21 |
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| parimala | fungi: I am able to submit my patch for review, thanks a ton for your help | 14:23 |
| anteaya | and now... breakfast | 14:23 |
| fungi | parimala: great--glad you figured it out, and thanks for your contribution to the project! | 14:23 |
| fungi | ahh debian... the systemd drama continues https://www.debian.org/vote/2014/vote_003 | 14:23 |
| anteaya | typo in my shoutout to markmc, d'oh | 14:24 |
| fungi | anteaya: i figured out what you meant, so others likely did as well | 14:24 |
| anteaya | I and tristan looked at that at least 8 times | 14:24 |
| anteaya | fungi: thanks | 14:25 |
| eglynn-office | anteaya: was voter turnout up, down, or static? | 14:25 |
| anteaya | eglynn-office: up | 14:26 |
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| anteaya | but the rate of eligible voters grew faster | 14:27 |
| eglynn-office | anteaya: cool, what was the previous turnout do you recall? | 14:27 |
| fungi | anteaya: you did an awesome job of beating the drum on the dev ml to get people to vote. kudos! | 14:27 |
| anteaya | results this time: http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_c105db929e6c11f4 | 14:27 |
| anteaya | actual votes cast: 506 out of 1893 authorized to vote | 14:28 |
| anteaya | results last time: http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_d34934c9fd1f6282 | 14:28 |
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| anteaya | actual votes cast: 448 out of 1510 authorized to vote | 14:28 |
| anteaya | fungi: thank you | 14:29 |
| eglynn-office | anteaya: thanks the details! | 14:29 |
| anteaya | and we have got to find a wiki plugin that randomizes divs or something | 14:29 |
| anteaya | eglynn-office: welcome | 14:29 |
| anteaya | fungi: editing that wikipage mulitple times by hand sucked up at least 3 days of my life | 14:29 |
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| anteaya | the stress of making sure it was right while I was doing it was exhausting | 14:30 |
| anteaya | so it helped I think | 14:30 |
| fungi | anteaya: so percentage of voter turnout was down ~3.0% but the size of the electorate increased 25.4% | 14:30 |
| anteaya | but I would like to find a way to make it automated somehow | 14:30 |
| anteaya | fungi: yes | 14:30 |
| anteaya | we had 366 votes within the first 24 hours | 14:31 |
| anteaya | so I thought we would make it to 30% | 14:31 |
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| anteaya | but after monday, numbers just dropped like a stone | 14:31 |
| anteaya | so once the first 400 folks vote, that is basically it | 14:31 |
| anteaya | the rest is arm-twisting | 14:31 |
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| mtreinish | anteaya: I think you could do it in chronological order and just put a footnote saying that | 14:32 |
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| ttx | mtreinish: that would encourage people to declare early | 14:32 |
| ttx | which is not a bad thing | 14:32 |
| anteaya | if the tc says do it that way, I can do it that way | 14:32 |
| fungi | i think the point is to randomize the order on every page visit so as not to provide ordering bias across viewers | 14:32 |
| anteaya | was trying not to impose an order of preference myself | 14:32 |
| anteaya | and also to be sensitive to things like babies being born | 14:33 |
| anteaya | and flying around all week for a new job | 14:33 |
| anteaya | david-lyle filled just before deadline but that was his first oppportunity | 14:33 |
| anteaya | because new job | 14:33 |
| anteaya | I asked him | 14:33 |
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| anteaya | fungi: that is the point exactly | 14:33 |
| anteaya | best I could do was randomize during each addition and then once more at the end | 14:34 |
| fungi | anteaya: there's *probably* no existing wiki plug-in which does that... we might need some sort of custom publication site for position statements if that's a requirement | 14:35 |
| anteaya | I'm open to that | 14:35 |
| anteaya | I have no problem with the list of confirmed candidates being in chronological order | 14:35 |
| anteaya | but I would like the responses to be randomized | 14:35 |
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| anteaya | since I want to be as invisible in the process as I am able to be | 14:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Wayne Warren proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Accept list of paths in 'path' arg. https://review.openstack.org/125854 | 14:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Denis A. Kochetkov proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Ability to restrict where job can be executed. Added ability to check on check-box "Restrict where this project can be run" and provide value for "Label Expression" field. Description for new option added into documentation sources. https://review.openstack.org/129287 | 14:44 |
| clarkb | hrm jjb already supports that | 14:45 |
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| anteaya | fairly long commit title as well | 14:46 |
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| bcourt | hi, I've got a silly jbb dev question. I'm trying to figure out how to run the fixture tests for a publishers locally. tox testr doesn't appear to be doing the trick | 14:48 |
| bcourt | Am I missing something or should tox testr validate using the fixtures? | 14:48 |
| clarkb | bcourt `tox` should be sufficient | 14:48 |
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| clarkb | or tox -eSomeENV like `tox -epy27` | 14:49 |
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| bcourt | that's what I thought, something definitely going wrong in my local env then, thanks | 14:51 |
| clarkb | bcourt no tox testr isnt right | 14:52 |
| clarkb | I wouldnt expect it to do what you want | 14:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack-infra/subunit2sql: Release subunit2sql 0.2 https://review.openstack.org/129290 | 14:54 |
| bcourt | got it, not sure why I was auto-typing testr in there. tox-e py27 did what I needed | 14:54 |
| anteaya | I think I am going to celebrate the end of election season by taking my walk early | 14:55 |
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| anteaya | that will have me back and hopefully in a happy place for rebasing patches for the rename | 14:55 |
| clarkb | my plan is do renames then afk early | 14:55 |
| anteaya | I don't think anyone needs me for anything for a few hours | 14:56 |
| clarkb | we did just release juno :) | 14:56 |
| anteaya | clarkb: awesome plan | 14:56 |
| anteaya | we did! | 14:56 |
| anteaya | back in a while | 14:56 |
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| rainya | hihi folks! looking for some advice on setting up a gerrit for code management downstream of upstream Openstack. Any takers this morning? | 15:06 |
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| fungi | clarkb: someone at hp was doing that ^ right? | 15:07 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/subunit2sql: Release subunit2sql 0.2 https://review.openstack.org/129290 | 15:07 |
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| rainya | goal: handle reviews, gate, and merge of local configs and plugin code that can't go upstream in the Rackspace public cloud | 15:08 |
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| clarkb | fungi ya mordred and jesusaurus and nibalizer | 15:09 |
| rainya | we're trying to avoid having to have the entire Git repository on the gerrit instance and as a result, have my team own the entire Infrastructure code repository (no bueno) vs the enterprise git folks (much better from my point of view) | 15:09 |
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| clarkb | if using gerrit it does want to be center of the universe | 15:09 |
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| rainya | clarkb, that's what my guys are finding out and we really don't want to own the center of the universe (spent the last 18 months getting OUT of the center of the public cloud's universe) | 15:10 |
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| rainya | fungi, clarkb, is there anything else that comes close to offering gerrit-like functioanilty out of the box with github? | 15:11 |
| rainya | that you know of? | 15:11 |
| clarkb | rainya what features are you needing? | 15:12 |
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| fungi | sounds like a good gerrit feature request though... make it use remote push/pull to interact with its git backend rather than local operations | 15:13 |
| fungi | performance would probably suck... then again maybe not | 15:13 |
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| clarkb | so there is a github pull request plugin that sort of does that I think | 15:14 |
| clarkb | after dev of the plugin ruined all the jenkins repos I am abit skeptical of it though. granted they havent made that mistake again | 15:14 |
| fungi | though i got the impression that plugin wasn't especially stateless, and mostly just tried to provide an additional means of accepting review requests | 15:15 |
| clarkb | ya | 15:15 |
| fungi | whereas gerrit could really stand to have its git backend decoupled and pluggable | 15:15 |
| rainya | clarkb, "sort of" is right from what we discovered this week | 15:16 |
| rainya | (and my guys threatened to quit if i made them write java) | 15:16 |
| rainya | (and I believe them :D) | 15:16 |
| fungi | rainya: i believe them too. i'd do the same ;) | 15:16 |
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| fungi | i have, i think, a grand total of one upstream patch in gerrit's source | 15:16 |
| rainya | sorry, got pulled into another convo elsewhere | 15:16 |
| clarkb | I mean if writing java is what I need to do to get a job done it happens... | 15:17 |
| rainya | what we're running into downstream is pull requests to github that are (1) self merged (2) merged without our internal checks passing (3) merged without internal tests passing (4) merged before internal tests even finish processing | 15:17 |
| fungi | i think there's a difference between "need to fix a bug in this java program" and "my job is now writing java all the time" | 15:17 |
| rainya | clarkb, they would rather find another job that needs doing :) | 15:18 |
| clarkb | rainya soulds like you should replace github with gerrit | 15:18 |
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| fungi | it's what we did | 15:18 |
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| rainya | clarkb, that's what we were looking at doing; however, that would put my team (of 5 + manager me) in charge of ALL of the source control for Rackspace's public cloud infrastructure for nova, glance, and neutron | 15:19 |
| fungi | or did we just replace hg on lp with gerrit straight through and only ever replicate to github? | 15:19 |
| rainya | and I am SO not going there | 15:19 |
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| rainya | fungi, per your docs, you replicate to github at cannoical and openstack | 15:19 |
| rainya | with rsync i believe | 15:19 |
| fungi | rainya: now we do... i was wondering historically | 15:19 |
| rainya | ah, okay | 15:19 |
| fungi | rainya: and not rsync, no | 15:19 |
| fungi | git push replication | 15:19 |
| clarkb | fungi bzr on lp was replaced completely with git + gerrit | 15:19 |
| rainya | ah, okay, so it does use that now | 15:19 |
| rainya | philip wasn't 100% when we were talking it thorugh this week | 15:20 |
| BobBall | Do I understand correctly that a CI gerrit account is no longer required to have an email address? | 15:20 |
| fungi | clarkb: got it, so there was no transitional period where we ever took contributions through github before implementing gerrit | 15:20 |
| clarkb | BobBall correct. the idea being you list it on the wiki and we dont have to worry about conflicts there | 15:20 |
| jeblair | yeah, openstack was always gated. github can't do that (as discussed earlier in this convo), so it was never authoritative. | 15:20 |
| BobBall | In which case, how can I remove an email address from an existing account? :) | 15:21 |
| fungi | jeblair: how were we doing that in lp? through their builder system? | 15:21 |
| rainya | fungi, clarkb: a thought that came up was to see if github perms could do it; ultimately, getting an internal "change gate" is going to be fraught with political fun (can't "wait") | 15:21 |
| jeblair | fungi: tarmac | 15:21 |
| clarkb | fungi no I dont think so. mordred apparently approached github about the project needs and was told to go away | 15:21 |
| fungi | jeblair: aha | 15:21 |
| fungi | in some ways i'm sorry i didn't get involved until after the switch to gerrit. in other ways, it sounds like it was pretty awful | 15:22 |
| fungi | (the beforetime, i mean) | 15:22 |
| clarkb | BobBall if its there we want to remove it because it is wrong? | 15:22 |
| rainya | course, the internal development teams could just decide "gate? we don't need no stinking gate" in which case I will quietly die inside | 15:23 |
| rainya | super helpful all, thanks so much! | 15:23 |
| jeblair | rainya: np, good luck :) | 15:23 |
| BobBall | No. I want to remove it because I get frustrated with the spam and outlooks filtering rules are inadequate (i.e. the thousands of messages still go through my inbox - thus alerting multiple devices - then they can't be purged from deleted items automatically) | 15:24 |
| fungi | rainya: anyway, i can understand not wanting your 5-person team managing all rackspace public cloud's git repositories. on the other hand, we have a total of 5 sysadmins with root access to a gerrit server hosting all of upstream openstack and stackforge, 440 projects at yesterday's count (and those same people manage a lot more than just gerrit too). so it's pretty doable even with a small team | 15:24 |
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| jeblair | fungi, rainya: true. there's not much 'managing' of gerrit's git repos that need to happen... oh i have some thoughts... | 15:25 |
| BobBall | I also mistakenly used a useful email address that we want to keep open for general openstack queries - so we don't want to just blackhole the address | 15:26 |
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| jeblair | fungi, rainya: part of 'managing' git repos is making sure that they are accessible and can handle the load of the whole org. we do that by replicating gerrit to git.openstack.org which is a cluster of git servers. i wonder if that might be a way you could work with your enterprise git folks. replicato to their servers and let them handle the bulk of the load (and support, etc). | 15:27 |
| clarkb | BobBall: so you will be using a new email for the contact addr? in any case make sure the wiki page for your system has the correct address, then let us know what account and email needs to have an address clobbered | 15:27 |
| jeblair | 15:26 < Not-3894> [urwid] wardi 68c4e0f - Merge pull request #74 from jeblair/master Fix GridFlow focus issue | 15:27 |
| jeblair | woo! change merged in urwid :) | 15:28 |
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| rainya | fungi, jeblair: my next step is to talk to the enterprise git people yup | 15:28 |
| fungi | jeblair: what was that bug preventing/causing in gertty? | 15:28 |
| BobBall | clarkb: I want to keep the address on the wiki page at openstack@citrix.com as that goes to a number of people on an internal mailing list. The gerrit account citrix_xenserver_ci also uses that email address but I'd much rather it didn't have an email address at all and people use the wiki contact details if they need to talk to us about the CI | 15:28 |
| rainya | fungi, jeblair: the other consideration I have is my team was a 2 year experience and we're 18 months into said experiment before we morph into "next" (whatever that is) | 15:28 |
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| jeblair | fungi: nothing, gertty has a workaround | 15:28 |
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| fungi | aha | 15:28 |
| rainya | fungi, jeblair: so setting up a new critical component dependent on us is not a great decision in regards to sustainability | 15:29 |
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| jeblair | rainya: in IT, all experiments are permanent! ;) | 15:29 |
| rainya | jeblair, exactly! which is why i want IT to own it from the start if i can manage it! :D | 15:29 |
| fungi | rainya: makes sense. i try to make sure nothing is ever dependent on me | 15:29 |
| jeblair | fungi: we're all counting on you | 15:30 |
| clarkb | BobBall: ok, give me a minute and I can remove that email addr from that account | 15:30 |
| BobBall | wonderful! Thanks clarkb! | 15:30 |
| fungi | jeblair: "we're all in it together." --harry tuttle | 15:30 |
| clarkb | BobBall: ok should be done now | 15:31 |
| clarkb | BobBall: you can check on the third party group listing page | 15:31 |
| BobBall | Indeed - it's gone. Appreciated, thanks. | 15:34 |
| jeblair | i'm going to be afk for a bit this morning, but back in time for maint, which is at 2100utc i believe. | 15:34 |
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| fungi | oh, and in followup to clarkb's afk early after maintenance comment, no problem. i expect to be around all evening anyway so can keep an eye on and fix anything small we miss | 15:36 |
| clarkb | fungi: I am going to have a beer for juno | 15:36 |
| fungi | clarkb: pour a little on the ground for icehouse | 15:36 |
| clarkb | was it 2100 or 2000 for maintenance? for some reason I was thinking 2000 but either works for me | 15:37 |
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| clarkb | it is 2100 | 15:37 |
| fungi | i'm gonna hack on heatclient py34 errors in the meantime | 15:39 |
| clarkb | oh thank you for reminding me about py34 | 15:39 |
| clarkb | I was going to pick that back up again if there were other items | 15:40 |
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| fungi | we do need an lp bug opened asking for an sru backport of https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/a4c5effb8698 | 15:40 |
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| fungi | i haven't gotten to that yet | 15:40 |
| clarkb | I think my plan is to do nodepool upgrade tuesday and jenkins gearman plugin upgrade monday | 15:40 |
| clarkb | which means this morning is help others day | 15:41 |
| clarkb | oh thats the bug I reported | 15:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Alan Pevec proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Add Juno stable-compat-jobs for trunk clients and libs https://review.openstack.org/129101 | 15:41 |
| clarkb | hrm | 15:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Alan Pevec proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Add juno compat jobs to the tempest check pipeline https://review.openstack.org/128987 | 15:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Alan Pevec proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Add periodic Juno jobs https://review.openstack.org/128961 | 15:41 |
| fungi | i opened bug 1382582 for glanceclient and pinged the ml. seems one of the devs is going to take that on... score! | 15:42 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1382582 in python-glanceclient "untestable in Python 3.4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1382582 | 15:42 |
| clarkb | fungi: so I was on the fence about that one. Because once oslo.rootwrap drops py26 support we can do py34 more easily | 15:42 |
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| clarkb | fungi: but oslo.rootwrap is a dep of juno and icehouse ya? so that means another year of waiting? | 15:42 |
| fungi | clarkb: yeah | 15:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Barnaby Court proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support using the NodeLabel Parameter plugin to specify which node should run a job when a triggering a parameterized build. https://review.openstack.org/129302 | 15:42 |
| fungi | i don't think we want to wait a year to switch to python 3.4 testing | 15:42 |
| clarkb | bcourt: re 129302 I thought we supported that already | 15:43 |
| clarkb | fungi: agreed | 15:43 |
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| mordred | rainya: I know everyone else already chimed in - but just to summarize from my POV ... | 15:43 |
| mordred | rainya: if you want gerrit, it must be authoritative and own the repos ultimately, but as was mentioned you can certainly replicate to elsewhere | 15:44 |
| clarkb | bcourt: in the land before our use of gearman I am pretty sure zuul triggered jobs on particular nodes using that feature. But we may have encoded it into zuul without corresponding JJB feature(s)? | 15:44 |
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| clarkb | fungi: I feel bad asking for a second SRU :) | 15:45 |
| mordred | rainya: however, if the consumers want to keep the github workflow model and there is not power to force them to do otherwise, zuul and friends are ultimately the important parts | 15:45 |
| fungi | clarkb: ubuntu gets plenty of benefit from our efforts... the least they can do is handle the occasional bug fix in packages they're providing ;) | 15:45 |
| rainya | mordred, that was the conclusion murkk and matt on my team came too; jlk hadn't found anything to refute it, but was looking, so I figured I'd come to a place with solid experience (much of which was hellish so might even qualify as wisdom) | 15:45 |
| mordred | rainya: and I am 100% sure that zuul could gate things with github and pull requests | 15:45 |
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| clarkb | mordred: I don't think github perms work that way but I may be wrong | 15:46 |
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| rainya | mordred, my customers actually say they would <3 gerrit being setup internally; less context switching between upstream and internal | 15:46 |
| clarkb | mordred: zuul could do advisory gating but not hard I am a real gate in a wall gating | 15:46 |
| mordred | clarkb: totally possible | 15:46 |
| jeblair | clarkb: same as gerrit? don't grant anyone write perms. | 15:46 |
| rainya | mordred, right now it's about who bears the pain of the transition and the responsblity for the care and feeding of the system post-implementation | 15:46 |
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| mordred | the thing you can't do is the multi-project overview screen | 15:46 |
| mordred | clarkb: and the lack of a status field for people of PRs | 15:47 |
| clarkb | jeblair: you can probably beat it with a hammer but then you lose a lot of the organization features | 15:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Barnaby Court proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for the NodeLabel Parameter plugin https://review.openstack.org/129302 | 15:47 |
| mordred | other than that, all of the mechanics zuul needs are ther and represented in the API | 15:47 |
| mordred | rainya: gotcha | 15:47 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: i'm not saying it's a good idea. | 15:47 |
| clarkb | jeblair: :) | 15:47 |
| rainya | we aren't haven't dove in deeply yet, but we did discuss yesterday locking down github perms and having a third party with github access (something like zuul+nodepool + UI) to handle it | 15:47 |
| jeblair | that's pretty much the last thing i'd say | 15:47 |
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| mordred | rainya: well, if the customers do want gerrit itself, then yeah, it needs to be source of truth, but replicating to enterprise git people is certainly doable | 15:47 |
| clarkb | fungi: should I go ahead and draft a bug for the logging change then? | 15:48 |
| clarkb | against ubuntu? | 15:48 |
| fungi | clarkb: if you can, that would be awesome | 15:48 |
| fungi | clarkb: otherwise, i'll take it on once i get a handle on why heatclient hates python 3.4 | 15:48 |
| rainya | mordred, from where i'm sitting, Infrastructure (nova/glance/neutron/et al) are my only customers NOW; however, my team vision is to support this type of workflow for all of Product, so anything I do today I want to be scalable beyond the 100 or so devs that care right now | 15:48 |
| clarkb | fungi: I can do it | 15:48 |
| mordred | rainya: yup | 15:49 |
| mordred | rainya: well, keep in mind that with a team of only 5 people who have root access to anything we support 2000 devs in infra - so it's certainly a system that's totally supportable :) | 15:49 |
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| rainya | so i just need to find someone else to own it after we get it | 15:51 |
| rainya | mordred, no comment :) | 15:51 |
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| rainya | except to say you have authority over the systems you run and the release process is well defined and locked | 15:51 |
| reed | hello rainya, I missed the first part of your conversation, seems like an interesting topic | 15:51 |
| rainya | reed, i am nothing if not interesting! | 15:52 |
| mordred | rainya: yes. this is the most important part, to be honest | 15:52 |
| mordred | doing this without authority or a defined process would be a non-starter | 15:52 |
| reed | rainya, I know you are :) | 15:52 |
| rainya | mordred, very hard to be a conductor of a release train when your passengers can pull the emergency break whenever they see fit | 15:52 |
| rainya | mordred, i have a beautiful process :) just no authority to enforce it | 15:52 |
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| reed | what's github have to do with this? | 15:53 |
| mordred | reed: they use github enterprise internally at rax | 15:53 |
| mordred | reed: I was pointing out tha tmost of infra could, with some work, be applied to github instead of gerrit if that was desired | 15:54 |
| rainya | reed, that is currently our source of code truth | 15:54 |
| * rainya is also figuring out what her Summit talk is going to look like for Paris teehee! | 15:54 | |
| reed | rainya, you internally commit to private github and then upstream? | 15:54 |
| rainya | reed, yep (upstream is more theorhetical sometimes) | 15:55 |
| rainya | there's a box and a line for it at least! but i don't own the dev's workstreams on those teams | 15:55 |
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| rainya | reed, so we've got our service configs internal (no surprise there) in puppet manifests and ansible (in mid-conversion) and those all go to enterprise github | 15:55 |
| reed | rainya, welcome to the club :) every company (department) is struggling with balancing upstream/downstream | 15:56 |
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| harlowja_at_home | +2 to that ;) | 15:56 |
| rainya | reed, i've been doing it for 2.5 years; my intent is to be able to take what i've learned and share the love and experience (much of it painful) which qualifies it as wisdom | 15:56 |
| * reed loves rainya's wisdom | 15:57 | |
| rainya | i've spent the last 2 years as a dev manager for the deploy systems at rackspace AND the program manager for the public cloud releases | 15:57 |
| rainya | it's like two full time+ jobs; finaly got out of the program manager piece so coming to play in the community more | 15:57 |
| harlowja_at_home | rainya, so rax has full forks of all the projects in there github enterprise? :-/ | 15:57 |
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| fungi | oh, speaking of ansible+puppet... mordred: apparently the way our playbooks are applied, if we disable puppet agent on the git servers, puppet manifests get applied on no other servers either... | 15:58 |
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| * harlowja_at_home works at yahoo, where we went through a similar phase (although i basically said no forks allowed, some patch files are ok, but no forks...) | 15:58 | |
| rainya | harlowja_at_home, we take a daily copy of upstream every morning at 6am, smush it with the local changes (hacks) needed to make things like legacy identity work plus the configs unique to our setup (xen, ovs, nsx), deploy that to a CI enviornment daily, then run automated tests (written in cloud cafe) to see how broke it is | 15:59 |
| mordred | fungi: that sounds like a bug in the ansible, it's not supposed to work that way | 15:59 |
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| rainya | harlowja_at_home, no forks; we consider it every 6 months or so but so far, not worth it | 15:59 |
| mordred | fungi: let me look in to it | 15:59 |
| harlowja_at_home | rainya, sounds very similar to ours, ha | 15:59 |
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| fungi | mordred: please do. i started seeing if i could figure out how to solve it, but no luck yet | 15:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Lukasz Jernas proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: Make the external links actual hyperlinks https://review.openstack.org/129309 | 15:59 |
| harlowja_at_home | *the fork conversation hasn't come up recently though, ha | 15:59 |
| reed | and speaking of our mediawiki (total nonsequitur) ... Nikerabbit and I were discussing how to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1254911 | 16:00 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1254911 in openstack-ci "UniversalLanguageSelector breaks wiki skin" [Medium,Triaged] | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | i shut that conversation down if it ever happens :-P | 16:00 |
| rainya | harlowja_at_home: i spoke quite a bit with Yahoo 12 to 18 months ago on how we do things :) | 16:00 |
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| rainya | harlowja_at_home, glad to know it had positive outcomes! | 16:00 |
| reed | harlowja_at_home, rainya: in Paris I'll present the early results of my research "How companies do openstack" | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | cool | 16:00 |
| rainya | harlowja_at_home, it is usually when a new release comes out we ask "is the difficulity of trying to do continuous delivery from a waterfall code base less painful than maintianing our own fork?" the answer is obvious | 16:01 |
| clarkb | fungi: ok I updated the etherpad with a draft. If you want to review it really quickly when you have a moment I can go ahead and open the bug | 16:01 |
| JayF | harlowja_at_home: rainya and a former racker (blamar) had a talk at Atlanta about how we deploy openstack | 16:01 |
| JayF | rainya: was that ever posted anywhere? | 16:01 |
| rainya | JayF, yep | 16:01 |
| rainya | JayF, harlowja_at_home: on the youtbue channel | 16:01 |
| rainya | reed, am I in the research!? | 16:01 |
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| clarkb | fungi: mordred the more I think about it the more I think ansilbe is doing the right thing there | 16:02 |
| reed | rainya, I haven't talked to you, yet :) I spoke quite for a long time to pvo | 16:02 |
| clarkb | fungi: mordred: we use ansible like that to prevent changes to gerrit and jenkins before our mirrors are updated | 16:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Lukasz Jernas proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: Make the external links actual hyperlinks https://review.openstack.org/129309 | 16:02 |
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| clarkb | fungi: mordred: this means that if we cannot update the mirrors for whatever reason we shouldn't run puppet elsewhere | 16:02 |
| rainya | reed, oh i can't *WAIT* to hear what he had to say | 16:02 |
| mordred | clarkb: yah. well, not updating gerrit if git is off is _definitely_ the right thing | 16:02 |
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| mordred | but that maybe shouldn't affect etherpad? | 16:02 |
| reed | rainya, I won't mention names, so you may only recognize pieces :) | 16:02 |
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| clarkb | mordred: ya so we might need an extra dimension of dependency in the ansible? | 16:03 |
| rainya | reed, drat! maybe you can debrief me over a glass of wine?? | 16:03 |
| reed | rainya, I'm happy to hear your point of view though | 16:03 |
| clarkb | mordred: two independent runs maybe | 16:03 |
| mordred | clarkb: we could turn it in to two playbooks | 16:03 |
| mordred | yeah | 16:03 |
| mordred | git/gerrit/jenkins in one | 16:03 |
| reed | I'm bound to confidentiality | 16:03 |
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| mordred | everything else that doesn't care in another | 16:03 |
| clarkb | mordred: ++ | 16:03 |
| reed | but the gist of it is that it's very hard to keep the up/downstream balance | 16:03 |
| fungi | clarkb: that draft lgtm. stamp and ship | 16:04 |
| rainya | reed, openstack + companies are creating a new product development model whether they mean to or not. We'd all be happier if we realized what was happening and became intentional about it. | 16:04 |
| mordred | hp public cloud actually has great automation for doing it | 16:04 |
| mordred | but it came with a very specific product choice | 16:04 |
| mordred | which is that everyone actually bought in to the idea that all patches to openstack services only exist locally for temporal reasons | 16:04 |
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| mordred | and that if tehre is any "differentiation" that wants to stayHP specific, it has to go in a plugin behind an interface | 16:05 |
| rainya | mordred, reed: not talkinga bout automation or tooling; talking about the people and process part of a system | 16:05 |
| mordred | yah | 16:05 |
| mordred | it's the people/process part of the above that's key | 16:05 |
| rainya | that sort of insight can be provided | 16:05 |
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| rainya | Imma write a book about it next year after grad school is over | 16:05 |
| rainya | for 2016 | 16:05 |
| jesusaurus | mordred: yeah, its the most important bit | 16:05 |
| mordred | because without that decision, it quickly gets out of hand even with the best of intentions | 16:05 |
| * annegent_ reads with increasing interest | 16:05 | |
| reed | rainya, mordred: indeed, what's missing is awareness from the top levels and sometimes from the bottom line too | 16:05 |
| annegent_ | go go rainya, write that book | 16:05 |
| mordred | reed: yes. exactly | 16:06 |
| annegent_ | reed: you have a lot of insights across companies | 16:06 |
| rainya | annegent_, you wann co-author?! get another o'reily title under your belt :D | 16:06 |
| annegent_ | rainya: oh gawd I don't just no can't augh wish nope. | 16:06 |
| reed | mordred, HP hired Bdale Garbee back, I had a good chat with him in Duesseldorf, apparently his job is to make all HP aware of collaboration | 16:06 |
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| rainya | phrases like "I don't really care about upstream" drive me crazy; they are short sighted and miss the big picture goals of why you commercialize software like openstack | 16:07 |
| reed | mordred, you guys seem to be better positioned than others :) | 16:07 |
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| rainya | annegent_, i'll ask again in 2015 :) | 16:07 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: Regarding py26 - I have no idea how to address your comment and/or pin things. | 16:07 |
| clarkb | pleia2: are you awake yet? is there a preferred bug title for SRU requests? | 16:07 |
| rainya | annegent_, you'll have forgotten how awful it is by then | 16:07 |
| clarkb | adam_g: SpamapS ^ | 16:07 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: Can you get consensus from the other reviewers to make sure that’s the approach they want to take as well? | 16:07 |
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| clarkb | krotscheck: in layout.yaml under the jobs list. you specify job name regexes that can be associated with branch restrictions | 16:07 |
| jesusaurus | reed: thats a part of what im trying to do by running an internal gerrit/jenknis/zuul for hp. im trying my best to get collaboration and communication as high as possible | 16:07 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: so something like - name: gate-nova-python26\n branch: stable/(icehouse|juno) | 16:08 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: should be examples in that jobs list now | 16:08 |
| reed | jesusaurus, I can put you in touch with Bdale, he's coming to Paris too | 16:08 |
| jesusaurus | reed: thanks, but i wont be in paris :( | 16:08 |
| mordred | jesusaurus: I can put you in touch with bdale too ... :) | 16:09 |
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| jesusaurus | mordred: awesome, it sounds like he should meet the whole gozer team | 16:09 |
| fungi | (or just use the company directory!) | 16:09 |
| mordred | reed: but let's definitely you and me and jeblair grab a few with bdale in paris | 16:09 |
| mordred | jesusaurus: ++ | 16:10 |
| rainya | harlowja_at_home, will you be in paris? | 16:10 |
| clarkb | rainya the thing I try to impress upon the i dont care about upstream crowd is upstream is moving too. you have to care or you get left behind | 16:11 |
| harlowja_at_home | rainya, yup | 16:11 |
| rainya | clarkb, meet choir, PREACH | 16:11 |
| clarkb | rainya: oh I know | 16:12 |
| rainya | harlowja_at_home, hope we can find a bit of time to compare notes | 16:12 |
| harlowja_at_home | sureeee | 16:12 |
| * rainya goes gosple | 16:12 | |
| rainya | gospel? | 16:12 |
| rainya | gospell? | 16:12 |
| harlowja_at_home | time to unleash the gospel? | 16:12 |
| jesusaurus | gospel | 16:12 |
| * rainya cues music to Godspell | 16:12 | |
| rainya | bring on the show tunes! | 16:12 |
| rainya | okay, i'll stop now | 16:12 |
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| clarkb | fungi: bug submitted and added to etherpad under oslo.rootwrap | 16:15 |
| fungi | clarkb: thanks! | 16:15 |
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| Jarry | How to get the associated "Gerrit account" with my third-party-CI account? | 16:15 |
| zaro | morning | 16:15 |
| fungi | heatclient is more url fun... this time it's trying to compare escaped and unescaped values :/ | 16:15 |
| clarkb | Jarry: your third party ci account is a gerrit account | 16:15 |
| krotscheck | So, is there a reasonable expectation that there will be pitchforks when the py26 thing drops? | 16:15 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: there may be a handful | 16:16 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: but in atlanta we told the pitchfork carriers to run a modern python | 16:16 |
| fungi | krotscheck: they will, at best, be small rubber pitchforks. i wouldn't worry | 16:16 |
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| clarkb | krotscheck: and they seemed to mostly agree that spending their nights doing that would be better than chasing openstack dev monsters | 16:16 |
| clarkb | also I think I agree with danpb on the mccabe flake8 thing | 16:17 |
| clarkb | refactor code if it needs refactoring (thatdoesn't need to be gated) but we should be focusing on fixing all the issues (which will likely point us to the code that needs the most help) | 16:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: add documentation for globbed parameter feature https://review.openstack.org/128476 | 16:18 |
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| krotscheck | Ok, then, I’ll bring this up at the infra meeting. I’m going to play this one really cautiously, because of breaking things. The infra discussion as I recall only reached consensus on moving the jobs out of the template, not to add branch restrictions. | 16:18 |
| fungi | right, same situation as obsessing over whitespace changes | 16:18 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: the whole point was that we would restrict it on branches | 16:18 |
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| fungi | krotscheck: no, i did definitely say we want to restrict the branches we run these on for projects which have stable branches | 16:18 |
| * krotscheck goes back to look. | 16:19 | |
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| fungi | though it's always possible i only said it in my head | 16:19 |
| krotscheck | I think the real issue is that I really just don’t want to be the fall person for when the pitchforks start coming my way. | 16:19 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: I can be the fall person | 16:19 |
| clarkb | just redirect all pitchforks to clarkb | 16:20 |
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| Jarry | clarkb:I saw some other's gerrit account is not the same with it's third party CI account | 16:22 |
| Jarry | clarkb:So I wandor whether there is a dedicated gerrit belonged to the third part CI account? | 16:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/project-config: Fix groups-release-branch manifest issue https://review.openstack.org/129263 | 16:22 |
| clarkb | Jarry: they are one and the same | 16:22 |
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| clarkb | Jarry: that other person is confused and Idon't think we have figured out over what yet | 16:23 |
| clarkb | Jarry: a third party ci account is a gerrit account that you use to consume gerrit events and post comments on changes | 16:25 |
| clarkb | Jarry: by definition it is a gerrit account | 16:25 |
| Jarry | clarkb:So you means that the ones who's gerrit account is not the same with their third party account in wikipage is wrong? | 16:26 |
| Jarry | clarkb:They shoud be the same one? | 16:26 |
| clarkb | yes they should be the same | 16:27 |
| Jarry | clarkb:hah, I saw many one's is not the same | 16:27 |
| clarkb | I think the idea on the wikipage is to state what the third party CI account is named in gerrit | 16:27 |
| dtroyer | clarkb: can you do the stable/devstack branch or do I need to ping ttx to do that? The current tip is fine (56d4919a1a19dcab892263e351ffbf3d74ead72c) | 16:28 |
| clarkb | so that individuals looking at the wikipages can say "oh that test on my change came from this account" | 16:28 |
| clarkb | dtroyer: I can do it if you are ready | 16:28 |
| dtroyer | yup, go for it | 16:28 |
| clarkb | unless ttx really wants to | 16:28 |
| clarkb | ttx: ^ | 16:28 |
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| clarkb | I will give ttx a couple more minutes otherwise I am just going to do it | 16:30 |
| clarkb | fungi: ^ | 16:30 |
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| fungi | clarkb: coolness | 16:31 |
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| pleia2 | clarkb: re SRU, I think there's a tag, let's see (if you haven't figured it out yet) | 16:32 |
| clarkb | pleia2: I havent | 16:32 |
| clarkb | I have submitted the bug though | 16:32 |
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| * krotscheck is going down for an os upgrade. My computer may explode. | 16:33 | |
| pleia2 | clarkb: seems no tag, but including a section with "SRU Justification" is common | 16:34 |
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| clarkb | pleia2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/python/+bug/1382607 is the bug I created | 16:35 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1382607 in python3.4 "Backport python3.4 logging module backward incompatibility fix." [Undecided,New] | 16:35 |
| clarkb | pleia2: does that look reasonable? | 16:35 |
| pleia2 | clarkb: yeah, that's great, and zul might have an idea about how to get it nudged along | 16:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Add cinder-brick to stackforge https://review.openstack.org/129092 | 16:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Add cinder-brick to stackforge https://review.openstack.org/129092 | 16:40 |
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| fungi | oh... actually the heatclient failures look fairly similar to the glanceclient failures | 16:43 |
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| fungi | it's url parameter ordering changes again, just manifesting slightly differently | 16:44 |
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| fungi | but fewer of them and they look easier to solve | 16:44 |
| clarkb | fungi: if we ever start doing awards at summits we should have the funny award be called the "Cargo Cult" and it will be a wood crate full of spam | 16:44 |
| clarkb | given to the project with the most lines of code copied from other projects | 16:45 |
| clarkb | (oslo incubator not included) | 16:45 |
| fungi | clarkb: we should totally dress like cultists for that too | 16:45 |
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| dtroyer | I'd pay money to learn how to encourage people to copy X but not Y when X really is the right thing to copy… | 16:47 |
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| clarkb | (note I am not advocating awards at summits I think we already put too much attentions on numbers and stuff. would rather we just buy each other beers :) ) | 16:51 |
| clarkb | I am going to step out shortly for breakfast | 16:51 |
| clarkb | back in a bit | 16:51 |
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| adam_g | clarkb, i updated https://bugs.launchpad.net/python/+bug/1382607, type typical process is tag it with [SRU] in title, add the template to description and subscrib the Stable Release Updates team | 16:54 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1382607 in python3.4 "Backport python3.4 logging module backward incompatibility fix." [Undecided,New] | 16:54 |
| clarkb | adam_g thank you | 16:55 |
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| fungi | adam_g: does 1367907 need similar corrections? | 16:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Christoffer Skeppstedt proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Serialize combine-queued-commits for git-revision https://review.openstack.org/124965 | 16:58 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 16:58 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: follow that. I'll check the bug when you're done. :) | 16:58 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: you have to fix it in utopic first. Bad timing, I don't think "v" is open yet. | 16:58 |
| pleia2 | thanks SpamapS | 16:59 |
| adam_g | fungi, yeah | 16:59 |
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| adam_g | 1367907 is at least fixed in 14.10 | 16:59 |
| pleia2 | and yeah, final freeze for Utopic went into effect, release is next week | 17:00 |
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| SpamapS | actually it can be a 0 day utopic fix | 17:00 |
| SpamapS | does v have a name yet? | 17:00 |
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| adam_g | doesnt look like it | 17:01 |
| pleia2 | SpamapS: no :( | 17:01 |
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| pabelanger | fungi, clarkb: Still having an issue where nodepool losses connection to zmq after a period of time. You guys see that here? | 17:01 |
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| pabelanger | I'm assuming no because how active your nodepool is | 17:01 |
| adam_g | i dont acknowledge the naming unless i have a release tshirt, which i haven't got since raring | 17:01 |
| pabelanger | for me, I can do days without using it | 17:02 |
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| fungi | #status note upgraded wiki.openstack.org from Mediawiki 1.24wmf19 to 1.25wmf4 per http://ci.openstack.org/wiki.html | 17:02 |
| openstackstatus | fungi: unknown command | 17:02 |
| * pleia2 hopes for a velociraptor | 17:02 | |
| pleia2 | but I did just get my unicorn :) | 17:02 |
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| SpamapS | vole | 17:03 |
| SpamapS | voracious vole | 17:03 |
| fungi | #status log upgraded wiki.openstack.org from Mediawiki 1.24wmf19 to 1.25wmf4 per http://ci.openstack.org/wiki.html | 17:04 |
| openstackstatus | fungi: finished logging | 17:04 |
| * fungi never can remember that command for some reason | 17:04 | |
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| fungi | pabelanger: is there a firewall between them? | 17:04 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: sounds like a state tracking expiration | 17:06 |
| fungi | pabelanger: it's even possible state lifetimes need adjusting in iptables to cope... i guess zeromq doesn't implement a keepalive? | 17:07 |
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| clarkb | SpamapS: so what you are telling me is I should find a different distro? :P | 17:12 |
| clarkb | fungi: how was wiki upgrade? | 17:13 |
| clarkb | fungi: was documentation good? | 17:13 |
| fungi | clarkb: uneventful | 17:13 |
| clarkb | fungi: we seem to have derped search again though | 17:13 |
| fungi | oh, what was the fix for that? | 17:13 |
| clarkb | silly elasticsearch and mediawiki interaction | 17:13 |
| clarkb | fungi: last time we needed to upgrade ES then reindex | 17:14 |
| fungi | hmm | 17:14 |
| clarkb | fungi: so I think first thing to check is if the search plugin thing needs a newer es | 17:14 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: ya we don't see that | 17:14 |
| pabelanger | fungi, yes, there is a firewall. Good point | 17:14 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: This week, yes. :) | 17:15 |
| pabelanger | Ya, I'll have to see how to do keepalives | 17:15 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: no really, you can simultaneously upload to utopic-updates and trusty-updates | 17:15 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: but it will need to be approved for utopic-updates first, so there isn't a regression on update. | 17:15 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: ya the doing utopic first makes sense | 17:15 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: I'm happy to prep an upload if you want. | 17:15 |
| fungi | clarkb: you could switch to debian. they're not freezing for 3 more weeks ;) | 17:15 |
| clarkb | its just more that the way you characterize it it is damn near impossible to make changes | 17:16 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: I imagine doko is busy with the release so it may be a few days. | 17:16 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: the week of release, it is hard to get a fix in for the thing being released. That is true for pretty much everything. :-D | 17:16 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: I dunno we are pretty good about accepting bug fixes that break releases before releasing | 17:16 |
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| clarkb | fungi: also maybe it just needs a reindex if the es version is new enough | 17:17 |
| fungi | i would almost say we excel at breaking things immediately prior to releasing | 17:17 |
| clarkb | assuming that would happen if the plguin expects a different es schema | 17:17 |
| fungi | clarkb: yep, currently trying to figure out the workflow for that | 17:18 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: well it's been broken in 14.04 for about 6 months now.. so that's a bit harsh. | 17:18 |
| fungi | looks like wiki.o.o is currently on es 1.3.2 | 17:19 |
| clarkb | oh crud completely forgot about devstack stable branch. doing that now | 17:19 |
| clarkb | dtroyer: sorry I got distracted :/ | 17:19 |
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| clarkb | dtroyer: and done | 17:19 |
| dtroyer | np, I saw 'breakfast' in there and got hungry myself… | 17:19 |
| dtroyer | thanks | 17:19 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: actually it looks like Utopic may be fixed.. isn't this fixed in 3.4.2 ? | 17:20 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: yes | 17:20 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: ok I'll mark that as such. This makes things much easier. | 17:20 |
| clarkb | did utopic bump to 3.4.2? it was only 3.4.1 last I checked | 17:20 |
| clarkb | but that was a couple weeks ago | 17:20 |
| SpamapS | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+source/python3.4 | 17:21 |
| SpamapS | yep | 17:21 |
| fungi | neat-o-rama | 17:21 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: prepping SRU upload now | 17:22 |
| SpamapS | unfortunately I laid down my sru team powers a few months ago | 17:22 |
| SpamapS | since I hadn't reivewed an SRU in over a year. :-P | 17:22 |
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| bcourt | clarkb, I could specify the node in the project but I can't use an environment variable to set the node from the triggering job | 17:25 |
| clarkb | oh maybe the missing bit is teaching one job how to do it to another job | 17:26 |
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| clarkb | we had an external service setting it on jobs not other jobs | 17:26 |
| bcourt | clarkb, I have 3 jobs: 1-provision slave node, test servers & connect back to master using the swarm plugin. 2-run the tests, 3-tear everything down | 17:27 |
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| bcourt | I couldn't figure out a way to dynamically set the slave name and have the run-tests job actually run on the dynamic slave without adding the NodeLabel plugin | 17:27 |
| clarkb | bcourt: you should look into nodepool if you are provisining openstack slaves | 17:28 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: speaking of one crappy work around may be to run a noop job on your master ever minute or so | 17:28 |
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| bcourt | clarkb, I'll take a look, I am usually provisioning openstack slaves but it's a combination of openstack and some other environments. | 17:29 |
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| bcourt | really the challenge is that I really want single use slaves that are set up, used for one test run and then torn down to ensure isolation | 17:30 |
| clarkb | bcourt: that is exactly what nodepool is built for | 17:30 |
| clarkb | and was used to run 1.7 million jobs over the last 6 months | 17:30 |
| waynr | zaro, clarkb: is there a roadmap for jenkins-job-builder development? | 17:30 |
| clarkb | fungi: ^ did I get that number correct? | 17:30 |
| clarkb | waynr: no, its pretty organic and we are eventually going to ditch jenkins (though JJB should live on) | 17:31 |
| fungi | clarkb: yep | 17:31 |
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| fungi | clarkb: closer to 1.8 | 17:31 |
| waynr | clarkb: interesting, what will you be replacing it with? | 17:31 |
| fungi | as the saying goes, "a small shell script" | 17:31 |
| pabelanger | clarkb, indeed... crappy | 17:32 |
| pabelanger | :) | 17:32 |
| fungi | though more likely a medium-sized python program which runs small shell scripts | 17:32 |
| clarkb | waynr: gearman worker(s) of some sort. likely turbo-hipster | 17:32 |
| bcourt | clarkb, is nodepool something I would need to get our openstack admins to set up? | 17:33 |
| clarkb | bcourt: no it uses normal user credentials | 17:33 |
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| clarkb | we run it as a service against 6 or 7 regions in 3 cloud providers | 17:33 |
| anteaya | back now | 17:36 |
| pleia2 | wb anteaya | 17:37 |
| zaro | waynr: we are in the process of converting jjb into a library so it can be consumed by other apps. | 17:38 |
| zaro | waynr: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107724/ | 17:38 |
| anteaya | pleia2: thanks | 17:38 |
| anteaya | lunch then rebase and final pass on the patches | 17:39 |
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| SpamapS | clarkb: 10:41 < doko> SpamapS, ok, but I hope I'll get my 3.4.2 backport approved next week | 17:42 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: no further action is required | 17:42 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: awesome thank you | 17:42 |
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| bcourt | clarkb, thanks, I'll definitely look into nodepool, it could be really handy for reducing the time used to stand up nodes before testing. | 17:43 |
| waynr | zaro: sweet! that'll help with a set of jenkins tools i've been working on to analyze CI pipelines (job connectedness, job convention linter, etc) | 17:43 |
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| bcourt | waynr, zaro, jjb is awesome for configuring jobs on a jenkins server, do you have tooling you can recommend for doing the overall jenkins master configuration. I'd like to be able to hit a button and stand up a new master with a predefined configuration, roles, permissions & secrets automatically configured | 17:45 |
| waynr | bcourt: i'd recommend some kind of configuration management tool, common options include chef, ansible, puppet, cfengine | 17:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Adam Gandelman proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Set SWIFT_TEMPURL_KEY for ironic agent_ssh job https://review.openstack.org/129341 | 17:47 |
| clarkb | someone was suggesting that jenkins has a puppet module that can run scripts on the master to configure it? | 17:48 |
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| waynr | bcourt, clarkb: https://forge.puppetlabs.com/rtyler/jenkins | 17:48 |
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| pleia2 | ianw: thanks for the puppetlabs-apache attempt, the abandon message is kind of epic :) | 17:49 |
| zaro | bcourt: we use puppet to setup jnkines, you can view all of our puppet here: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/jenkins | 17:49 |
| clarkb | bcourt: zaro: but it doesn't really set up everything due to the global master config being derpy | 17:50 |
| zaro | ahh yes, but it doesn't look like rtyler's script does either. i don't see anything for plugins? | 17:51 |
| clarkb | zaro: it does | 17:51 |
| clarkb | you can add groovy scripts in it that set up the master for you | 17:51 |
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| zaro | ohh cool. | 17:52 |
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| bcourt | nifty, thanks! | 17:56 |
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| zaro | waynr: i've always wanted a dependency graph from jjb. | 17:59 |
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| waynr | zaro: the tool i am working on produces graphviz output illustrating downstream/buildstep relationships between jobs | 18:00 |
| waynr | it currently does that by parsing configuration xml | 18:01 |
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| waynr | it's not open source yet(still pretty immature) | 18:01 |
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| clarkb | you should go check out the original JJB in openstack-infra/config | 18:02 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: Jsut to clarify, we’re adding the branch name for py26 to icehouse/juno only for projects under the ‘openstack/**’ name, not globally, right? | 18:03 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: There was some discussion on a few stackforge projects that wanted to keep py26 support. | 18:03 |
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| clarkb | krotscheck: I would add it globally then let them undo | 18:03 |
| pleia2 | so, does this look like Zuul? http://princessleia.com/temp/Zuul-sketch.jpg | 18:04 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: basically if a project has stable/icehouse and or stable/juno branches then pin py26 to those branches | 18:04 |
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| clarkb | pleia2: zuul looks too nice in that picture :P | 18:04 |
| pleia2 | haha | 18:04 |
| pleia2 | zuul tricks you into thinking they are nice :) | 18:05 |
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| clarkb | krotscheck: in the past we have been pretty forceful about these changes. Otherwise nothing ends up changing | 18:05 |
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| clarkb | krotscheck: we will do the same when we switch py33 to py34 | 18:06 |
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| krotscheck | clarkb: So, name: ^gate-(.*)-python26$ — branch: ^stable\/(icehouse|juno)$ | 18:06 |
| zaro | waynr: what i'm looking for is project definitions -> generated jobs | 18:06 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: and when we drop f20, centos6, and precise when they EOL or are otherwise no longer needed for our jobs | 18:06 |
| waynr | zaro: that wouldn't be too difficult | 18:06 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: that won't work because it will match all projects. we do want to keep py26 on clients and oslo* | 18:07 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: See, that’s what I was getting at. | 18:07 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: so we probably end up needing to be verbose about where we don't run it | 18:07 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: I don't follow | 18:07 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: we know which projects will run py26 jobs | 18:07 |
| clarkb | against which branches | 18:07 |
| zaro | waynr: would appreciate that contribution! would be a nice feature. | 18:07 |
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| waynr | i'd be interested in working on adding a 'graph' subcommand, just not sure if i have the time | 18:07 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: the rule should be any project with stable/icehouse and/or stable/juno gets pinned. Any python-.*client and oslo.* and taskflow and pbr and whatever other oslo projects are named funny continue to py26 on master | 18:08 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: So, it feels to me like there is a subset of projects on which this should run, and shouldn’t run, and I don’t know enough about the impacted subsets, nor about how this pinning works, to apply it properly. | 18:08 |
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| zaro | waynr: maybe you can start it and we can collaborate? i'll pitch in where i can. | 18:08 |
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| krotscheck | clarkb: It might seem obvious to you, but I simply don’t have that institutional knowledge. | 18:09 |
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| clarkb | krotscheck: I get that, which is why we have been very explicit about it | 18:09 |
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| clarkb | krotscheck: we have discussed this in several meetings now. | 18:09 |
| clarkb | but also happy to answer more questions as they come up | 18:10 |
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| waynr | zaro: i'll think about it, there are higher priority tasks for me at the moment related to $dayjob | 18:10 |
| zaro | waynr: maybe graph can just be represented in terminal? | 18:10 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/programs.yaml#n159 contains the list of oslo projects | 18:10 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: Which is why I’m asking. And why I honestly feel that you’d be a lot happier if you contributed to my patch rather than mansplaining it to me. | 18:11 |
| waynr | zaro: i bet there are tools that will convert graphviz output to ascii representation | 18:11 |
| zaro | waynr: understandable, i'm just trying to plant ae seed :) | 18:11 |
| fungi | clarkb: krotscheck: for p in `ssh -p 29418 review.openstack.org gerrit ls-projects` ; do wget -qO/dev/null 'http://git.openstack.org/cgit/'$p'/tree/?h=stable/juno' && echo $p ; wget -qO/dev/null 'http://git.openstack.org/cgit/'$p'/tree/?h=stable/icehouse' && echo $p ; done | uniq | 18:12 |
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| fungi | ugly, but that's similar to what i did to find where we needed to delete stable/havana branches a few weeks ago | 18:13 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: I think my only concern here is that we don't trade in an easy patch for bit rot | 18:13 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: we should do our best to have this process done from the point the change merges | 18:13 |
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| fungi | i'll get that list into a paste so you don't have to run it yourself... just a sec | 18:14 |
| krotscheck | fungi: Already running it. | 18:14 |
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| fungi | krotscheck: awesome. in that case i'll use my copy to check against the patch in a bit ;) | 18:14 |
| clarkb | pleia2: that zuul makes me think of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Tales | 18:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Add cinder-brick to stackforge https://review.openstack.org/129092 | 18:16 |
| mrmartin | how can I rerun the post release jobs on this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128823/ ? the code is merged, but the final release jobs are failed due a bug in the project's job script. | 18:16 |
| fungi | krotscheck: obviously, that is the list of projects with stable branches, but they may not all even have the python-jobs template applied right now so no need to add overrides if they don't | 18:16 |
| clarkb | mrmartin: the two options are merge another change to rerun the jobs or one of us can trigger gearman directly | 18:16 |
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| pleia2 | clarkb: this is the artist: http://ronnietucker.co.uk/ (I know him through Ubuntu stuff) flashgordon and I were chatting about a Zuul logo at lunch yesterday so I dropped him an email last night | 18:17 |
| mrmartin | clarkb, may I ask you to trigger gearman? | 18:17 |
| clarkb | mrmartin: first, is the job working now? | 18:17 |
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| clarkb | we need to fix that before we do anything else | 18:17 |
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| mrmartin | clarkb: must run, will this manual job launch generate a log file? | 18:18 |
| clarkb | mrmartin: it will generate a log file | 18:18 |
| mrmartin | ok, and for this specific case, will this override the existing one? | 18:19 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: restore query for InterpreterNotFound https://review.openstack.org/128984 | 18:19 |
| flashgordon | pleia2: we can just use this http://ronnietucker.co.uk/2014/01/doodles-3/ | 18:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Adam Gandelman proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Explicitly set -nv ironic jobs non-voting https://review.openstack.org/129348 | 18:19 |
| openstackgerrit | patrick-crews proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Adding query namespace to elastic-recheck https://review.openstack.org/101958 | 18:19 |
| pleia2 | flashgordon: hahah | 18:19 |
| mrmartin | clarkb: this one: http://logs.openstack.org/56/5656f5505436685bc5fdd8e99c01efa0563a3df8/ | 18:19 |
| pleia2 | flashgordon: actually, that page rotates, assuming the first image? | 18:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Barnaby Court proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for the NodeLabel Parameter plugin https://review.openstack.org/129302 | 18:19 |
| clarkb | mrmartin: it will write to that location but under a different subdir | 18:19 |
| mrmartin | ok | 18:20 |
| krotscheck | fungi: Not all that obvious to me. I don’t really live in openstack-land. | 18:21 |
| krotscheck | Thanks for pointing it out | 18:21 |
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| fungi | yw | 18:22 |
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| clarkb | zuul enqueue can't do post jobs ya? so still using that other script? | 18:23 |
| fungi | clarkb: trigger_something.py | 18:23 |
| fungi | clarkb: look in my shell history on teh zuul server | 18:23 |
| fungi | should be lots and lots of examples of me running it | 18:23 |
| clarkb | ya its in zuul/tools looks like | 18:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Add cinder-brick to stackforge https://review.openstack.org/129092 | 18:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Rename config => system-config in tools/ https://review.openstack.org/126054 | 18:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Anita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Rename config => system-config in gerrit/templates https://review.openstack.org/126056 | 18:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Anita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Rename config => system-config in pypi.yaml https://review.openstack.org/126043 | 18:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Anita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Rename config => system-config in docs https://review.openstack.org/126063 | 18:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Anita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Rename config => system-config in the logs/help/tempest files https://review.openstack.org/126045 | 18:28 |
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| clarkb | mrmartin: ok that is queued up | 18:29 |
| mrmartin | clarkb: thanks | 18:30 |
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| clarkb | I think it is waiting on a node because I don't see it running yet | 18:30 |
| mrmartin | Will it appear on zuul.openstack.org ? | 18:31 |
| fungi | it will not | 18:31 |
| clarkb | mrmartin: no we are bypassing zuul | 18:31 |
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| mrmartin | ok. | 18:31 |
| clarkb | and putting the job straight onto the gearman queue | 18:31 |
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| fungi | we are zuul, but we are playing zuul | 18:31 |
| fungi | no, wait... how about "there is no zuul, only gearman" | 18:32 |
| rainya | fungi, <3!! | 18:32 |
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| LinuxJedi | "there is no santa, only zuul" | 18:33 |
| fungi | heh | 18:33 |
| mrmartin | :) | 18:33 |
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| clarkb | so now that I can ipv6 I notice that ssh just adds keys to known hosts without prompting me to | 18:38 |
| clarkb | is that beacuse the key matches what is in there for the ipv4 address? | 18:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Removed python26 from python-jobs https://review.openstack.org/128736 | 18:38 |
| fungi | jhesketh: mattoliverau: mikal: if any of you are around on this fine saturday morning, garyk says turbo-hipster is acting up | 18:38 |
| fungi | clarkb: it's because you used the same dns name and the key matches, yeah. it adds additional entries per-ip-address | 18:39 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: ^^ Anything I missed? | 18:39 |
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| clarkb | krotscheck: looking | 18:41 |
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| clarkb | krotscheck: first thing I notice is that I don't know if the \/ is correct there but I can test that easily enough | 18:41 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: http://regex101.com/ | 18:42 |
| LinuxJedi | Gozer must be friendlier than Zuul though: http://0.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/50/20/dc3884cbc3ad1e4032c10d7e35f41f92.jpg | 18:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Anita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Rename config => system-config in the logs/help/tempest files https://review.openstack.org/126045 | 18:44 |
| jeblair | clarkb, fungi: back. do we have an etherpad yet? | 18:44 |
| fungi | jeblair: nope, was wrapping up e-mails and getting ready to put one together | 18:44 |
| fungi | but hadn't started it yet | 18:44 |
| anteaya | pleia2: better? | 18:44 |
| fungi | i did upgrade the wiki though | 18:44 |
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| jeblair | fungi: neato! | 18:44 |
| fungi | it had been neglected for some time | 18:45 |
| jeblair | fungi: i'll go review anteaya's changes and wait for you to start the ep since you are proficient at it | 18:45 |
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| pleia2 | anteaya: yep, thanks, it was in previous patchsets so not sure how it fell out of the last one :) | 18:45 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: and I think we can drop more projects py26 testing and I found at leats one typo. So will have a comment up once I get through the whole thing | 18:46 |
| fungi | jeblair: sure thing | 18:46 |
| fungi | i think i've reviewed them all since their last updates, but should also double-check | 18:47 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: a quick test of the regex says it doesn't hurt to have that escape but it isn't necessary. so no need to update that if you don't want to | 18:47 |
| jeblair | oh i need to have gertty put 'abandoned' next to dependent change links | 18:48 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: ok thats poisted | 18:50 |
| clarkb | *posted | 18:50 |
| clarkb | mrmartin: http://logs.openstack.org/56/5656f5505436685bc5fdd8e99c01efa0563a3df8/post/groups-release-branch/6dc5e0b,2/console.html | 18:50 |
| clarkb | mrmartin: is that it? | 18:51 |
| mrmartin | checking | 18:51 |
| anteaya | pleia2: I had to rebase and I didn't catch all the things I should have | 18:51 |
| anteaya | I'll rebase the children then | 18:51 |
| mrmartin | clarkb, yes great, working now | 18:51 |
| anteaya | jeblair: start with the project-config changes, rebasing the config patches | 18:51 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: ah yeah, it happens! | 18:52 |
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| clarkb | mrmartin: awesome | 18:52 |
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| anteaya | I was in detached head state to edit that patch | 18:53 |
| anteaya | how do I get out of detached head state and get back to the end to rebase the children? | 18:54 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: It looks like a lot of the comments you made should be separate patches on top of mine (deciding to remove py26 for individual projects, removing for stackforge etc). | 18:54 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: we can do it that way too, but I thought the intent of this patch was to kill py26 wherever possible | 18:54 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: I think we may have two agendas here | 18:54 |
| clarkb | mine is to remove py26 from as many things as possible | 18:55 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: No, the intent of the patch is to move py26 out of the default without breaking anything. | 18:55 |
| krotscheck | At least that was my intent. | 18:55 |
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| clarkb | krotscheck: right your commit message has conveyed we want individual projects to do their own deprecation | 18:55 |
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| clarkb | krotscheck: my position is that that will only lead to pain | 18:55 |
| clarkb | and we should deprecate for them | 18:56 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: Well, do you want to take over the patch then? I don’t mind. | 18:56 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: at the very least that typo copy pasta will need to be corrected | 18:57 |
| clarkb | otherwise we will run the wrong py26 job against that project | 18:57 |
| krotscheck | It’s not like my agenda precludes yours. It just makes yours a little easier. | 18:57 |
| clarkb | jeblair: http://logs.openstack.org/36/128736/3/check/gate-infra-puppet-apply-precise/9da7419/console.html that appears to be a possible issue with zuul cloner on precise nodes | 18:57 |
| jeblair | clarkb: seems to be an issue with sudo, not so much the cloner | 18:58 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: If we’re going to split it into two different patches though, then the branch pins should probably get pulled out again. | 18:58 |
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| krotscheck | AFK. Food | 19:01 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: weird. sudo works on a bare-precise node on hpcloud-b3. there isn't a b2 node ready right now. | 19:02 |
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| clarkb | huh | 19:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Rename config => system-config in tools/ https://review.openstack.org/126054 | 19:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Anita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Rename config => system-config in gerrit/templates https://review.openstack.org/126056 | 19:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Anita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Rename config => system-config in docs https://review.openstack.org/126063 | 19:06 |
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| jeblair | fungi, clarkb: we're moving /opt/config to /opt/system-config, right? | 19:07 |
| anteaya | hopefully that series is all nicely rebased and jenkins is happy: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:config-rename,n,z | 19:07 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ya we should do that | 19:07 |
| clarkb | jeblair: it will be a manual stop | 19:07 |
| clarkb | er setp | 19:07 |
| jeblair | k, i think we need one more change in the series for that. i will write. | 19:07 |
| clarkb | jeblair: we don't currently manage /opt/config best I could tell | 19:07 |
| jeblair | there are still things to change. will illustrate by submitting a patch :) | 19:07 |
| clarkb | there is a bird derping with my window | 19:08 |
| clarkb | and its gone | 19:08 |
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| anteaya | jeblair: thanks, I wasn't sure on that, the internal changes | 19:08 |
| anteaya | jeblair: and then I forgot to ask about it | 19:09 |
| pleia2 | we're still cloning to /root/config as well in prepare_node.sh, do we want to change that too? | 19:09 |
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| pleia2 | (I noted that on a patchset, but we were fixing other things at the time) | 19:09 |
| pleia2 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126076/ | 19:09 |
| clarkb | pleia2: oh I thought that was addressed /me looks | 19:09 |
| anteaya | yeah, I changed external pathways but not internal ones | 19:10 |
| pleia2 | clarkb: opt was fixed in that patch, but not the root clone | 19:10 |
| anteaya | since I didn't know how you wanted to address that | 19:10 |
| pleia2 | I wasn't sure what we wanted there | 19:10 |
| clarkb | I see it | 19:10 |
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| clarkb | commented | 19:11 |
| clarkb | Ithink we should make it as consistent as posible everywhere to aid in futuredebugging | 19:11 |
| * pleia2 nods | 19:11 | |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Change opt/config to opt/system-config https://review.openstack.org/129359 | 19:12 |
| jeblair | built on branch tip and has config-rename as topic ^ | 19:12 |
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| clarkb | oh right puppet conf | 19:13 |
| anteaya | jeblair: do you want /root/system-config ? | 19:13 |
| anteaya | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126076/4/nodepool/scripts/prepare_node.sh | 19:14 |
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| jeblair | ya | 19:14 |
| anteaya | kk | 19:14 |
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| jeblair | anteaya: nodepool/elements/puppet/install.d/05-puppet:/bin/bash /opt/git/openstack-infra/config/install_puppet.sh | 19:17 |
| jeblair | anteaya: tools/build-dib-in-docker.sh:docker.io run --privileged=true -v ~/.cache:/.cache -v $(git rev-parse --show-toplevel):/opt/config -w /opt/config -i -t openstack_infra | 19:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Rename config => system-config for nodepool https://review.openstack.org/126076 | 19:19 |
| anteaya | jeblair: okay I will add those | 19:20 |
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| clarkb | Iam going to grab a quick bite to eat | 19:21 |
| clarkb | should be back well before 2100 | 19:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Anita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Rename config => system-config for nodepool https://review.openstack.org/126076 | 19:22 |
| anteaya | clarkb: did we say 2100 or 2000? | 19:23 |
| clarkb | anteaya: email says 2100 | 19:23 |
| anteaya | awesome | 19:23 |
| anteaya | it never lies | 19:23 |
| anteaya | let me know when we like 126076 and I will rebase the children | 19:24 |
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| jeblair | anteaya: would be great if you rebased now. i'm doing my checks on the tip of the tree. | 19:27 |
| anteaya | jeblair: I will rebase now | 19:28 |
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| fungi | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/repo-renaming-2014-10-17 should be all ready for review now | 19:29 |
| fungi | likely there are some extra steps we need to insert especially for this one | 19:30 |
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| fungi | so far it's just our usual plan template filled out... i haven't augmented it with manual things like moving directories on the puppetmaster server yet | 19:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Rename config => system-config in README https://review.openstack.org/126080 | 19:32 |
| jeblair | fungi, mordred: https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/10/msg00001.html | 19:35 |
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| fungi | yep, linked that in here earlier in the day | 19:35 |
| fungi | well, i linked https://www.debian.org/vote/2014/vote_003 | 19:36 |
| fungi | but same thing | 19:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Removed python26 from python-jobs https://review.openstack.org/128736 | 19:36 |
| jeblair | there was so much talking about github earlier i didn't read everything. :) | 19:36 |
| krotscheck | Ok, clarkb: ^^ Updated the patch, fixed the typo, and was clearer about my agenda in the commit message. | 19:36 |
| fungi | hah | 19:36 |
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| krotscheck | btw, clarkb - did that garbage collection bug you found in python3 ever get accepted? | 19:41 |
| krotscheck | i.e. fixed? | 19:41 |
| clarkb | ya its getting sru'd | 19:41 |
| clarkb | upstream python fixed it a while back | 19:41 |
| clarkb | still waiting on ubuntu | 19:41 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: do you still have the link to the grenade branch migration etherpad, dtroyer cut the juno devstack branch and we're getting ready to do the same on grenade | 19:52 |
| jeblair | status alert Gerrit will be offline from 2100-2130 for project renames | 19:52 |
| jeblair | fungi, clarkb: ^ look good? | 19:52 |
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| fungi | jeblair: looks fine, yep! | 19:52 |
| fungi | mtreinish: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-grenade-fun | 19:52 |
| clarkb | jeblair +1 | 19:52 |
| jeblair | maybe i'll wait until 2030? | 19:52 |
| mtreinish | fungi: thanks | 19:52 |
| fungi | jeblair: that makes sense... otherwise people will forget they've seen the announcement/topic ;) | 19:53 |
| jeblair | we could probably try a graceful zuul shutdown at, say 2010 if we wanted. | 19:54 |
| dtroyer | clarkb: for grenade, commit 800788d5d71f18bc6c62a1764ced4cb6ddc00288 looks to be stable/juno ("Move javelin execution…" | 19:54 |
| jeblair | maybe not; if we do that, we're committed, and a gate reset could derail it. nevermind. | 19:55 |
| captainmorgan | clarkb, jeblair, fungi, so i have the hierarchical multitency branch in keystone. what is the right "way" to move it forward? should i just merge master? should i end up with like each patch from master on the new branch as a review? - i'm not sure which way makes people's life less awful. | 19:55 |
| jeblair | captainmorgan: make a merge commit from master into the branch | 19:56 |
| captainmorgan | jeblair. ok that was my original plan. but i saw the docs on the wiki and must have mis-followed | 19:56 |
| captainmorgan | thanks | 19:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Mike Heald proposed a change to openstack-infra/infra-specs: Proposal for a 'fail-fast' option on jobs and project pipelines https://review.openstack.org/129255 | 19:56 |
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| jeblair | captainmorgan: help us fix the docs :) | 19:56 |
| captainmorgan | jeblair, hehe will do | 19:57 |
| jeblair | captainmorgan: what threw you off? | 19:57 |
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| captainmorgan | ah.. i see it | 19:57 |
| captainmorgan | Use the editor to squash any commits that should not appear in the public history. If you want one change to be submitted to Gerrit, you should only have one "pick" line at the end of this process. | 19:57 |
| captainmorgan | the "one picked" was glossed over | 19:57 |
| captainmorgan | whoopse | 19:57 |
| captainmorgan | i should know better i've done awful things in gerrit to split out middleware. | 19:58 |
| captainmorgan | s/gerrit/git | 19:58 |
| jeblair | captainmorgan: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GerritJenkinsGit#Merge_Commits | 19:58 |
| captainmorgan | this *shouldnt* be that hard for me to do :P | 19:58 |
| jeblair | captainmorgan: i think you may be looking at the wrong bit of doc | 19:58 |
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| captainmorgan | jeblair, probably looking at it from the worng side | 19:58 |
| jeblair | captainmorgan: it has a step-by-step for creating a merge commit for master -> feature | 19:58 |
| captainmorgan | yeah | 19:59 |
| jeblair | this will all get reorganized if we have some time for the infra-manual project :) | 19:59 |
| captainmorgan | jeblair, there is this section: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Gerrit_Workflow#Long-lived_Topic_Branches | 19:59 |
| captainmorgan | jeblair, and that was one one that someone pointed me at recently . | 19:59 |
| captainmorgan | jeblair, hence the confusion. totally different doc | 19:59 |
| jeblair | captainmorgan: yeah, that page is for typical development. it's supposed to be the short version | 20:00 |
| jeblair | problem with wikis is nothing ever stays short | 20:00 |
| captainmorgan | yep | 20:00 |
| jeblair | main thing i want to do with infra-manual is make sure things are organized by audience :) | 20:00 |
| captainmorgan | jeblair, +++++++ | 20:01 |
| captainmorgan | yess! | 20:01 |
| captainmorgan | :) | 20:01 |
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| fungi | stepping away for a bit to heat-n-eat dinner before maintenance starts | 20:01 |
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| anteaya | fungi: enjoy dinner | 20:03 |
| anteaya | as much as heat-n-eat can do for you | 20:03 |
| fungi | well, it's food i made. i just make a couple gallons at a time, portion, label and deep-freeze it for months so i don't have to cook as often on weeknights | 20:04 |
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| anteaya | ah | 20:04 |
| anteaya | sounds organized | 20:04 |
| fungi | i try to be | 20:04 |
| anteaya | it shows | 20:06 |
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| bcourt | clarkb, How do the instances created by nodepool attached to the jenkins master? Also, how does the node get removed from the jenkins master after the test completes? | 20:14 |
| jeblair | bcourt: nodepool attaches and removes them | 20:14 |
| clarkb | bcourt nodepool attaches the node to jenkins using the jenkins api and removes it in the same way. nodepool knows the job completed via events published by jenkins' zmq event publisher | 20:15 |
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| bcourt | thanks, if there are job's queued, how do you ensure that one doesn't get assigned to a node between when the first job finishes and nodepool removes it. I'm thinking about the case of a jenkins server that is slow to respond so the this happens before nodepool gets the zmq event | 20:18 |
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| clarkb | bcourt: we offline the node in jenkins at the start of each job | 20:19 |
| clarkb | bcourt: so that when the job ends the node is in offline mode and cannot be used | 20:19 |
| bcourt | nodepool takes care of that? | 20:20 |
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| clarkb | no, our job triggerer does (gearman) | 20:21 |
| clarkb | I don't think nodepool can do it in a way that eliminates all of the possible race conditins | 20:22 |
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| clarkb | fungi: did we get an answer on the salt formula projects? | 20:29 |
| bcourt | hmm... We aren't currently using gerrit so pulling in zuul & gearman seems overkill. | 20:29 |
| bcourt | but nodepool still looks like a fantastic tool, thanks for the tips | 20:30 |
| clarkb | bcourt: you could probably have something else do it for you. like the job itself offlining before doing any other work | 20:30 |
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| bcourt | hmm... that's an interesting idea. I definitely could have that as the first thing the job does | 20:30 |
| jeblair | #status alert Gerrit will be offline from 2100-2130 for project renames | 20:31 |
| openstackstatus | jeblair: sending alert | 20:31 |
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| fungi | clarkb: i don't recall... | 20:36 |
| fungi | checking real quick to see if there's an irc channel i can give a heads up | 20:37 |
| fungi | doesn't look like they're using gerritbot for stuff... | 20:38 |
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| fungi | and the obvious channel names are vacant | 20:38 |
| fungi | nothing for them in our irc wiki | 20:39 |
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| fungi | their readmes are very thin, and in many cases outdated (pointing to the urls for repos we imported, rather than the stackforge urls) | 20:42 |
| jeblair | i think the whole effort is very new | 20:42 |
| fungi | something tells me we can just rename these and give them a heads up that we did it | 20:42 |
| jeblair | ya | 20:43 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya I think that is probably fine | 20:43 |
| fungi | jeffrey4l hasn't really been in for a while that i've noticed, anyway | 20:43 |
| fungi | departed 2014-10-09 and hasn't returned | 20:44 |
| fungi | last seen in #openstack-dev 2014-09-12 | 20:45 |
| fungi | so not around most of the time | 20:45 |
| fungi | (that's the last time his client disconnected in channel) | 20:45 |
| fungi | (and hasn't returned) | 20:45 |
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| clarkb | fungi: you had reenabled puppet on gitXX correct? | 20:50 |
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| jeblair | i'll take care of stopping puppet on master | 20:51 |
| flashgordon | anteaya: ping https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125509/2 | 20:52 |
| flashgordon | anteaya: I am not sure what your comment on that is getting at | 20:52 |
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| anteaya | what I am getting at | 20:53 |
| anteaya | is that to create a new project in the openstack namespace | 20:53 |
| fungi | clarkb: yes, i have | 20:53 |
| anteaya | it has to come from a program | 20:53 |
| anteaya | for instance oslo creates new openstack repos all the time | 20:53 |
| anteaya | but random people can't | 20:53 |
| anteaya | why not? | 20:53 |
| flashgordon | anteaya: ahh, it sounds like this is a loop hole in that | 20:53 |
| anteaya | they are not from a program | 20:54 |
| fungi | anteaya: which program contains the openstack/governance repo? ;) | 20:54 |
| jeblair | well, i think the tc can, regardless of whether it is a 'program' :) | 20:54 |
| anteaya | the alternate is for the tc to say create ye this repo | 20:54 |
| anteaya | yes | 20:54 |
| anteaya | and if the tc says create ye this repo | 20:54 |
| anteaya | it will happen | 20:54 |
| jeblair | anteaya: and if they approve 125509 i think they will have said that | 20:54 |
| anteaya | that is what I am waiting for | 20:54 |
| anteaya | yes | 20:54 |
| anteaya | but ttx has a good comment | 20:54 |
| anteaya | where do they live? | 20:54 |
| anteaya | tc isn't a program | 20:55 |
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| jeblair | anteaya: that's addressed by the patch | 20:55 |
| anteaya | so openstack-specs and api-wg (working group) need homes | 20:55 |
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| jeblair | anteaya: openstack-specs is given a home in a yaml file in the governance repo in the patch upon which you commented | 20:55 |
| anteaya | great | 20:55 |
| flashgordon | exactly | 20:55 |
| jeblair | i think the confusion is, it is not clear whether you want some alternative outcome, or if you are in support of what the patch does :) | 20:56 |
| anteaya | hopefull api-wg will end up there as well | 20:56 |
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| anteaya | I think I would like to see some discussion at the tc meeting | 20:56 |
| anteaya | since api-wg also needs to be considered | 20:56 |
| jeblair | anteaya: oh, is the purpose of the comment to say "this is a good solution for this repo, and i would like a similar solution for api-specs" ? | 20:56 |
| anteaya | in the same kind of framework | 20:56 |
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| jeblair | rather api-wg | 20:56 |
| anteaya | it could be taken that way, yes | 20:57 |
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| anteaya | mostly I'm saying that whatever we are saying is the process will be the process for more than just openstack-specs | 20:57 |
| anteaya | so we need to ensure teh process can tolerate growth | 20:57 |
| anteaya | since this will not be the last patch of this type | 20:57 |
| jeblair | who chartered the api working group? | 20:57 |
| anteaya | there is a mailing list thread | 20:58 |
| anteaya | not sure who chartered | 20:58 |
| flashgordon | anteaya: ahh, well for openstack-specs all I say in the patch is that the repo should be managed by the TC (vague on purpose) | 20:58 |
| anteaya | it came out of a summit session in atlanta | 20:58 |
| anteaya | from cyeoh | 20:58 |
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| anteaya | it would have happened earlier if cyeoh was around more | 20:58 |
| anteaya | flashgordon: right | 20:58 |
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| anteaya | and I'm saying vague on purpose doesn't help here | 20:58 |
| jeblair | probably what should happen is that the tc should formally charter the api wg, and approve the repo as a tc-owned repo | 20:58 |
| anteaya | since there is already another patch up that fits in this category | 20:59 |
| anteaya | however this category is defined | 20:59 |
| fungi | maybe the api working group documents should be formulated as cross-project specs in the openstack/specs repo? | 20:59 |
| anteaya | with isn't really, which is thte problem I have | 20:59 |
| jeblair | fungi: or that | 20:59 |
| anteaya | jeblair: I'm for that | 20:59 |
| flashgordon | jeblair: russellb mentioned in the ML he would like to see the group grow on its own before getting any blessing | 20:59 |
| anteaya | fungi: or that | 20:59 |
| jeblair | we need to stop doing things backwards :) | 20:59 |
| flashgordon | fungi: that was my thought | 20:59 |
| anteaya | yes | 20:59 |
| anteaya | that is my point | 20:59 |
| fungi | depends on if there are different groups of people needing to vote on and approve the commits to them i guess | 20:59 |
| anteaya | let's have some tc air time | 20:59 |
| fungi | also, it's time | 21:00 |
| anteaya | and we have at least 2 examples of things that need consideration | 21:00 |
| fungi | rename-time | 21:00 |
| krtaylor | anteaya, cyeoh is in opposite timezone, he is prob around alot :) | 21:00 |
| clarkb | o/ | 21:00 |
| anteaya | oopenstack-specs and api-wg | 21:00 |
| anteaya | krtaylor: he isn't | 21:00 |
| anteaya | cyeoh: he is fighting cancer still | 21:00 |
| jeblair | #status alert Gerrit is offline from 2100-2130 for project renames | 21:00 |
| openstackstatus | jeblair: sending alert | 21:00 |
| anteaya | that is the problem with teh speed of the api-wg | 21:00 |
| krtaylor | anteaya, yes, he is on our team | 21:00 |
| anteaya | no slight on cyeoh | 21:00 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: is puppet runner on master disabled? | 21:01 |
| jeblair | okay time for maintenance, please use #openstack-dev if you want to continue the convo | 21:01 |
| jeblair | clarkb: almost | 21:01 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: yes | 21:01 |
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| jeblair | i'll do zuul now | 21:02 |
| clarkb | jeblair: were you planning to do zuul as well? looks like yes /me goes further down the list | 21:02 |
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| jeblair | zuul is stopped | 21:02 |
| jeblair | fungi: ^ | 21:02 |
| clarkb | I will do git mirror renames and github | 21:02 |
| fungi | on it | 21:02 |
| fungi | gerrit is offline. proceeding with database/fs steps | 21:03 |
| annegentle | well crap, I take it 2100 is now. | 21:03 |
| annegentle | :) | 21:04 |
| anteaya | annegentle: it is | 21:04 |
| anteaya | :D | 21:04 |
| anteaya | annegentle: won't be long | 21:04 |
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| openstackstatus | jeblair: finished sending alert | 21:04 |
| annegentle | I was just on a roll. ah well | 21:04 |
| anteaya | tea break? | 21:04 |
| annegentle | anyone know if you "have" to delete .DS_Store from a git commit even after updating your .gitignore? | 21:05 |
| annegentle | Seems like that's the case, that you have to also remove .DS_Store files even after updating .gitignore locally | 21:05 |
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| anteaya | if the .DS_Store was in the commit before it was ignored, yes | 21:05 |
| mmedvede | annegentle, annegentle yes | 21:05 |
| annegentle | okie dokie mmedvede thanks | 21:06 |
| fungi | gerrit lucene reindexing is underway now | 21:06 |
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| clarkb | ok github and gitxx renaming is done | 21:08 |
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| anteaya | nibalizer: thanks | 21:09 |
| fungi | we're about 50% of the way through the search reindex | 21:09 |
| anteaya | yay | 21:09 |
| mordred | fungi, jeblair: those debian mails are the best thing ever | 21:10 |
| * fungi does debian-vote ml impression... "srsly? two weeks before release freeze? gtfo" ... "so's your mom" | 21:11 | |
| fungi | that's more or less the gist | 21:11 |
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| fungi | 90% done reindexing. i'll start gerrit back up momentarily | 21:12 |
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| jeblair | fungi: you should write for lwn | 21:12 |
| clarkb | ha | 21:13 |
| fungi | life behind the paywall isn't all it's cracked up to be | 21:13 |
| pleia2 | reminds me, https://github.com/formorer/pkg-cgit | 21:13 |
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| pleia2 | I think we're good with centos, but at debconf they uploaded a thing | 21:14 |
| clarkb | ooh | 21:14 |
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| clarkb | pleia2: using not centos would mean modern git and modern apache | 21:14 |
| clarkb | pleia2: I think these are both good things | 21:14 |
| pleia2 | clarkb: well, we could just upgrade to centos7 too ;) | 21:14 |
| anteaya | yay not centos | 21:14 |
| fungi | gerrit's back online now | 21:14 |
| fungi | jeblair: ^ | 21:14 |
| anteaya | annegentle: you're up | 21:15 |
| pleia2 | hoping now that there is a debian/ on github someone will actually get it into debian someday | 21:15 |
| jeblair | fungi: on it | 21:15 |
| jeblair | restarting zuul | 21:15 |
| annegentle | anteaya: w00t! | 21:15 |
| fungi | as soon as zuul is confirmed operable, i'll approve the changes. do any of them need to be forcibly merged or should they all pass the gate? | 21:15 |
| annegentle | that *was* quick | 21:15 |
| anteaya | annegentle: length of time to grab a tea | 21:16 |
| fungi | annegentle: that was the "easy" part | 21:16 |
| jeblair | re-enquing | 21:16 |
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| clarkb | fungi: I think they should all pass | 21:16 |
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| fungi | k | 21:16 |
| fungi | am i clear to start approving them? | 21:16 |
| anteaya | they all passed check | 21:16 |
| jeblair | zuul is up. | 21:16 |
| clarkb | I defer to jeblair on that one | 21:16 |
| jeblair | fungi: i think so | 21:16 |
| jgriffith | mordred: dtroyer Either of you have an exmple client-config file for a "home grown" cloud? | 21:17 |
| jgriffith | mordred: dtroyer I seem to be jacking things up along the way somewhere | 21:17 |
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| jeblair | i'll start putzing around on puppetmaster | 21:18 |
| mordred | jgriffith: I know dtroyer does | 21:18 |
| clarkb | https://jenkins07.openstack.org/job/gate-infra-puppet-apply-precise/211/console | 21:18 |
| clarkb | so that is the first broken thing we have run into :) | 21:18 |
| mordred | jgriffith: biggest gotcha though is env var vs. config file order - if you have OS_ vars set it may not be doing what you expect | 21:18 |
| jgriffith | mordred: oh wait... his readme has one that might work.... | 21:18 |
| clarkb | I am looking at it now but I think the fix may involve force merging a thing then running jjb? | 21:19 |
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| jgriffith | mordred: that's what i believe I'm having issue with currently | 21:19 |
| jgriffith | so I'm going to just write a proper .openstack.conf file or whatever | 21:19 |
| mordred | yuppers | 21:19 |
| jgriffith | .config/openstack that is :) | 21:19 |
| mordred | that's what I've done now | 21:19 |
| fungi | hrm... puppet apply jobs are unhappy | 21:19 |
| clarkb | hrm if project-config and config are not cogated we should be ok | 21:19 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya its because they try cloning the old thing | 21:19 |
| clarkb | fungi: I think we need to update the jobs | 21:19 |
| fungi | i see that now | 21:19 |
| mordred | jgriffith: ~/.config/openstack/clouds.yaml? :) | 21:19 |
| anteaya | clarkb: so did we miss something? | 21:20 |
| jgriffith | mordred: and by the way, kudos on the seperation of ansible, shade | 21:20 |
| jeblair | mordred, jgriffith: would you mind moving to #openstack-dev for just a few minutes while we finish up the maintenance? | 21:20 |
| clarkb | anteaya: no I don't think its missed yet | 21:20 |
| jgriffith | mordred: yeah... that one :) | 21:20 |
| jgriffith | sorry | 21:20 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: we are just in a chicken and egg istuation merging them | 21:20 |
| anteaya | ah okay | 21:20 |
| clarkb | we need https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126075/7/jenkins/jobs/infra.yaml | 21:20 |
| anteaya | ah yes | 21:21 |
| clarkb | so that change probably need to be force merged | 21:21 |
| fungi | aha, yep | 21:21 |
| fungi | doing | 21:21 |
| clarkb | but we can't start puppet until other changes are merge | 21:21 |
| clarkb | basically don't start puppet until we have the correct project.yaml data | 21:21 |
| clarkb | for system-config and the salt projects | 21:21 |
| clarkb | otherwise we will create repos for the old names | 21:21 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yep; and untangling which ones work with the old config would be ++hard | 21:22 |
| fungi | okay, bypassing gating for 126075 now | 21:22 |
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| jeblair | so i think the git checkout move and remote rename on puppetmaster is done | 21:22 |
| clarkb | fungi: we need to do the same for salt* | 21:22 |
| jeblair | clarkb, fungi: shall i status ok, since the remaining items mostly just affect us? | 21:22 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I think so | 21:22 |
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| fungi | jeblair: i think so, yes | 21:22 |
| jeblair | #status ok Gerrit is back online | 21:23 |
| openstackstatus | jeblair: sending ok | 21:23 |
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| fungi | gah... 126075 needs a rebase too | 21:23 |
| anteaya | fungi: do you want to go ahead and do that | 21:24 |
| fungi | i am, yes | 21:24 |
| anteaya | the likliehood I would screw it up is high | 21:24 |
| anteaya | thanks | 21:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Rename config => system-config https://review.openstack.org/126075 | 21:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Rename config => system-config for nodepool https://review.openstack.org/126076 | 21:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Rename config => system-config in tools/ https://review.openstack.org/126077 | 21:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Rename config => system-config in README https://review.openstack.org/126080 | 21:29 |
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| clarkb | fungi: where was the conflict? | 21:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/project-config: Rename config => system-config https://review.openstack.org/126075 | 21:30 |
| fungi | apparently there was none--it was the jgit n-way merge bug | 21:30 |
| clarkb | fun | 21:30 |
| fungi | bit the rebase button insistent there was an unresolvable merge conflict too | 21:30 |
| clarkb | fungi: lets get the other two rename changes merged too | 21:30 |
| fungi | er, insisted | 21:30 |
| fungi | doing | 21:30 |
| anteaya | just so you know it is still there | 21:30 |
| fungi | anteaya: what? | 21:31 |
| fungi | what is still there? | 21:31 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/project-config: Rename the glance-formula project name https://review.openstack.org/124252 | 21:31 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/project-config: Rename the keystone-formula project name https://review.openstack.org/125546 | 21:31 |
| anteaya | sorry just making a lame joke about the jgit but | 21:31 |
| anteaya | bug | 21:31 |
| fungi | oh, got it | 21:31 |
| fungi | heh | 21:32 |
| anteaya | shouldn't joke sorry | 21:32 |
| clarkb | ok we probably want to manually update master in /opt/system-config on the puppet master | 21:32 |
| clarkb | just so that if the update fails on us we don't go running with old puppet | 21:32 |
| clarkb | (I would hope ansible fails in that case but who knows :P ) | 21:32 |
| jeblair | clarkb: well, the script that runs ansible is still the old version with the wrong path, so yeah | 21:33 |
| jeblair | clarkb: we'll need to update manually, then run ansible manually | 21:33 |
| clarkb | yup just noticed that | 21:33 |
| clarkb | and its not set -e | 21:33 |
| jeblair | so yes, it would fail then make us unhappy | 21:33 |
| jeblair | fungi, clarkb: shall we merge the system-config changes now? | 21:34 |
| clarkb | jeblair: thats not a terrible idea. will result in fewer manual runs | 21:34 |
| clarkb | I am +1 on the idea | 21:34 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yeah, my brain can only deal with running puppet once everything is merged :) | 21:34 |
| jeblair | also, gertty does not have a rename repo command | 21:35 |
| jeblair | i'll work on gertty if someone wants to aprv the system-config changes? | 21:35 |
| clarkb | fungi: ^ | 21:35 |
| clarkb | if you still have your gerrit powers leveled up I vote you :P but I can bump my privs if that is easier | 21:36 |
| fungi | i will | 21:36 |
| fungi | seems sane enough | 21:36 |
| fungi | just force-merge all 6 of them and then sort out what we've missed? | 21:37 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya Ithink so | 21:37 |
| clarkb | then I can manual update the puppetmaster repo | 21:37 |
| fungi | okay, all 6 are in | 21:38 |
| fungi | obviously gerritbot knows nothing about that repo | 21:38 |
| fungi | (yet) | 21:38 |
| clarkb | oh right I was going to say where are the updates :P | 21:38 |
| clarkb | updating puppet manually now | 21:39 |
| clarkb | 10c12fe97921ca93d20e850b2f8798f772d4392b is now checked out. that looks correct to me | 21:39 |
| jeblair | fungi: so all changes are merged? | 21:41 |
| clarkb | jeblair: all system-config changes | 21:41 |
| clarkb | but not all project-config yet | 21:41 |
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| clarkb | I don't think we need the remaining project-config changes | 21:41 |
| fungi | clarkb: that looks like the right sha, yes | 21:41 |
| jeblair | i'd prefer to just wait | 21:42 |
| jeblair | they are failing tests | 21:42 |
| russellb | flashgordon: hey, saw mention of my name in scrollback re: api-wg. did you feel differently on that point? | 21:42 |
| clarkb | so I guess we are ready to run ansible/puppet now. we can run manually on the nodes first if we want to make sure that nothing goes really wonky | 21:42 |
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| clarkb | or we can just run the ansible-playbook command | 21:43 |
| jeblair | clarkb: can we wait until the project-config changes have merged? | 21:43 |
| clarkb | jeblair: no, because those cannot merge until tests pass | 21:43 |
| fungi | yeah, just double-checked those remaining three project-config changes and none should be necessary for this step. we can recheck them in a bit and they should just go in on their own | 21:43 |
| jeblair | then let's force-merge them | 21:43 |
| clarkb | jeblair: or did I misread you and you intend on force merging? | 21:43 |
| fungi | oh, i thought you meant just wait to recheck them | 21:43 |
| clarkb | fungi: that is how I read | 21:43 |
| fungi | we won't have jobs updated to pass them until after puppet runs | 21:44 |
| jeblair | yeah, i am just too lazy to want to think about anything not having updated to the new paths :) | 21:44 |
| flashgordon | russellb: no I tend to agree with you on it actually. although I do think when they get things sorted out the docs can live in openstack-specs | 21:44 |
| russellb | sure wfm | 21:44 |
| clarkb | I am inclined to force merge them so that a single run of puppet has us converge to where we want to be | 21:44 |
| jeblair | clarkb: ++ | 21:44 |
| fungi | doing that now | 21:44 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/project-config: Rename config => system-config for nodepool https://review.openstack.org/126076 | 21:45 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/project-config: Rename config => system-config in tools/ https://review.openstack.org/126077 | 21:45 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/project-config: Rename config => system-config in README https://review.openstack.org/126080 | 21:45 |
| fungi | that's the last of them | 21:45 |
| fungi | puppet away! | 21:45 |
| jeblair | clarkb: want to run it or shall i? | 21:45 |
| clarkb | jeblair: you do it | 21:46 |
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| clarkb | or maybe we should screen -x? | 21:46 |
| clarkb | oh I can just tail the log file | 21:46 |
| clarkb | that is easy | 21:46 |
| jeblair | running now | 21:46 |
| jeblair | gerrit was nice and short | 21:47 |
| clarkb | ok git and review were quick | 21:47 |
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| clarkb | yup that indicates we didn't go off and create any projects :) | 21:47 |
| fungi | a little too quick? | 21:47 |
| clarkb | fungi: no puppet can be really quick | 21:47 |
| fungi | ahh, right, we didn't need to create projects | 21:48 |
| clarkb | and it didn't error. I guess we can try a manual run if we are worried | 21:48 |
| fungi | hurrr | 21:48 |
| clarkb | looks like puppet is done? /me checks the job in jenkins | 21:50 |
| clarkb | hrm | 21:50 |
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| clarkb | I don't see the new jorb in jenkins-1 | 21:51 |
| fungi | jjb isn't still running | 21:51 |
| clarkb | I don't think it ever ran | 21:51 |
| clarkb | hrm | 21:51 |
| clarkb | I am going to try a manual puppet run on jenkins01 | 21:52 |
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| fungi | k | 21:52 |
| anteaya | fungi: step 12 is done? | 21:52 |
| jeblair | http://puppetboard.openstack.org/report/jenkins01.openstack.org/8ccd452ca654152400873b455f58e733900bbd36 | 21:52 |
| fungi | anteaya: yep | 21:52 |
| jeblair | yeah, bunch of empty puppet runs according to puppetboard | 21:52 |
| clarkb | Notice: Finished catalog run in 0.09 seconds is what I get | 21:52 |
| jeblair | oh i wonder if we should restart apache on puppetmaster | 21:52 |
| clarkb | maybe? | 21:53 |
| fungi | ahh, perhaps it hasn't reread its conf | 21:53 |
| anteaya | fungi: k | 21:53 |
| clarkb | if you do that let me know and I will rerun my jenkins01 puppet | 21:53 |
| jeblair | clarkb: oh | 21:53 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: how about we manually fix /etc/puppet/environments/production/environment.conf | 21:53 |
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| fungi | or did puppetmaster not puppet its cnofig | 21:53 |
| jeblair | which is pointing to the wrong path | 21:53 |
| clarkb | jeblair: gah oh ya | 21:53 |
| fungi | yep | 21:54 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: probably also /etc/puppet/puppet.conf? | 21:54 |
| fungi | that file isn't managed | 21:54 |
| fungi | gah | 21:54 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: are you around? | 21:54 |
| jeblair | i think /etc/puppet/environments/production/environment.conf is managed now | 21:54 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: we are into the puppety stuff | 21:54 |
| jeblair | but will get updated after puppet runs. i have updated it manually | 21:54 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i don't think anything in puppet.conf needs to change | 21:54 |
| fungi | oh, chicken-and-egg change, right | 21:54 |
| nibalizer | anteaya: hi | 21:55 |
| anteaya | hi | 21:55 |
| fungi | it can't puppet that if it's pointed to the wrong repository which no longer exists | 21:55 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ok | 21:55 |
| anteaya | so we are into the puppet things | 21:55 |
| jeblair | shall i re-run now? anyone think we need to restart apache? | 21:55 |
| clarkb | jeblair: let me rerun my single run | 21:55 |
| fungi | i think the environment config explains it all | 21:55 |
| nibalizer | ya probably need to change environment.conf | 21:55 |
| clarkb | nooping it so it goes fast | 21:56 |
| clarkb | its still bailing out early | 21:56 |
| clarkb | may need to restart apache | 21:56 |
| jeblair | doing so | 21:56 |
| jeblair | clarkb: try again? | 21:56 |
| clarkb | Notice: /File[/var/lib/puppet/lib/facter/memorytotalbytes.rb]/ensure: defined content as '{md5}7dd54c558e38daa9b1de91ab8366eef1' just happened so I think that helped | 21:57 |
| clarkb | yup that took 12 seconds | 21:57 |
| clarkb | jeblair: so I think we are ready for you to rerun the ansible thing | 21:57 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: running | 21:59 |
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| jeblair | here is what you need to do to update gertty: http://paste.openstack.org/show/121729/ | 22:01 |
| clarkb | its funny that puppets failure method is exit 0 nothing to do | 22:01 |
| jeblair | clarkb, fungi, mordred: http://paste.openstack.org/show/121729/ | 22:01 |
| fungi | jeblair: thanks! | 22:01 |
| clarkb | oh nice. I was just going to start wit ha new gertty db | 22:01 |
| clarkb | this is better | 22:01 |
| anteaya | jeblair: thanks | 22:01 |
| anteaya | that should be in the email to say we finished | 22:02 |
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| anteaya | when y'know, we finish | 22:03 |
| clarkb | http://puppetboard.openstack.org/report/git01.openstack.org/f383e923d79a7bf935cfc23fe62ed7f29991532f | 22:03 |
| clarkb | so that looks good to me | 22:03 |
| clarkb | (those are changes I expect) | 22:03 |
| jeblair | ya | 22:03 |
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| fungi | yep, lgtm | 22:04 |
| jeblair | gerritbot just restarted | 22:04 |
| fungi | has anybody submitted the .gitreview update yet? | 22:04 |
| clarkb | I have not | 22:04 |
| fungi | if not, i'll do | 22:04 |
| jeblair | fungi: not to my knowledge | 22:04 |
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| jeblair | fungi: wait a few minutes before you submit it | 22:05 |
| jeblair | until the jenkins jobs have updated | 22:05 |
| fungi | yep | 22:05 |
| jeblair | s/it/them/ | 22:05 |
| jeblair | should probably recheck a project-config change too after the jobs have updated | 22:05 |
| clarkb | ++ | 22:06 |
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| fungi | i've submitted the changes to the renamed stackforge projects, and am in holding pattern ready to submit the system-config one | 22:09 |
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| fungi | ahh, right, i'll end up needing to recheck the stackforge ones too since they currently aren't known to zuul | 22:11 |
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| clarkb | http://puppetboard.openstack.org/report/review.openstack.org/c540ddb327f643248714d6257b617b162adefe55 | 22:13 |
| clarkb | that looks ok to me | 22:13 |
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| jeblair | jenkins-dev has failures | 22:14 |
| jeblair | may not be related | 22:14 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I don't think they are. iirc its been doing that recently | 22:14 |
| clarkb | haven't had time to dig into it | 22:14 |
| fungi | jenkins-dev was failing before now | 22:14 |
| fungi | when i got puppet running again this morning it was the only one erroring | 22:15 |
| fungi | zuul config seems updated now | 22:16 |
| jeblair | ugh i think we have two runs going on at once | 22:17 |
| jeblair | it'll probably be okay since the first one is so far ahead | 22:17 |
| clarkb | jeblair: and puppet has a lock | 22:17 |
| clarkb | jeblair: so I think it will be fine | 22:17 |
| jeblair | (the manual run is still running and it re-enabled the cron run which started) | 22:18 |
| anteaya | it ran over the on switch | 22:18 |
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| marun | lifeless: Any idea what could be the cause of this message being output by what looks like testr? 'Length too long: 12949445' | 22:19 |
| marun | lifeless: http://logs.openstack.org/68/129268/1/check/check-neutron-dsvm-functional/92e6813/console.html#_2014-10-17_14_30_45_287 | 22:19 |
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| jeblair | indeed, the puppet lock is helping out :) | 22:20 |
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| clarkb | I think we are mostly waiting on the jenkinses now | 22:24 |
| mordred | jenkinses | 22:24 |
| anteaya | so on the etherpad are there any outstanding steps? is line 110 yet to be done? | 22:24 |
| fungi | puppet did that itself | 22:24 |
| anteaya | great | 22:25 |
| fungi | line 132 is waiting for me to run 'git review' once jjb is done running everywhere | 22:25 |
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| anteaya | okay | 22:25 |
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| jeblair | manual ansible run finished | 22:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/system-config: Rename config to system-config in .gitreview https://review.openstack.org/129396 | 22:31 |
| clarkb | woot | 22:31 |
| pleia2 | oh sneaky, my greps didn't include dot files | 22:32 |
| fungi | hrm... several of the jobs are showing up not registered | 22:32 |
| clarkb | fungi: gearman bug thing | 22:32 |
| clarkb | patience | 22:32 |
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| fungi | oh, right. i'll recheck once i see them in the zuul gearman status | 22:33 |
| * anteaya notes that clark counselled fungi to have patience | 22:33 | |
| clarkb | :P | 22:33 |
| * anteaya tracks the date and time | 22:33 | |
| anteaya | :D | 22:33 |
| pleia2 | haha | 22:33 |
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| fungi | https://jenkins04.openstack.org/job/gate-infra-puppet-apply-precise/251/console | 22:34 |
| fungi | do we need nodepool images? | 22:34 |
| fungi | er, nodepool image updates | 22:34 |
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| clarkb | fungi: no I think that stuff is in the job | 22:35 |
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| reed | time to upgrade my aging ubuntu box, have a nice weekend all | 22:35 |
| jeblair | we won't be using a cached system-config repo in jobs, but no big deal | 22:35 |
| fungi | oh, right, it's trying to clone from config not system-config | 22:35 |
| clarkb | https://jenkins04.openstack.org/job/gate-infra-puppet-apply-precise/configure | 22:35 |
| pleia2 | reed: have fun | 22:35 |
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| clarkb | looks like 04 just failed to update? | 22:35 |
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| anteaya | reed: thanks, you too, happy upgrade | 22:36 |
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| fungi | clarkb: 01 as well... https://jenkins01.openstack.org/job/gate-infra-puppet-apply-centos6/183/console | 22:36 |
| fungi | both tried to update openstack-infra/config | 22:36 |
| clarkb | then what did jjb do? did it run at all? | 22:36 |
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| jeblair | the job config looks correct to me | 22:37 |
| jeblair | lots of instances of system-config | 22:37 |
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| clarkb | https://jenkins01.openstack.org/job/gate-infra-puppet-apply-centos6/configure | 22:37 |
| clarkb | jeblair: those in particular say openstack-infra/config | 22:37 |
| anteaya | so where is that coming from? | 22:37 |
| jeblair | clarkb: but https://jenkins04.openstack.org/job/gate-infra-puppet-apply-precise/configure says system-config | 22:38 |
| fungi | still haven't seen any of gate-system-config-pep8, gate-system-config-bashate or gate-system-config-puppet-syntax in zuul's gearman status either, though maybe it hasn't been long enough yet | 22:38 |
| jeblair | clarkb: did it say 'config' when you looked at it? | 22:38 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ya | 22:38 |
| jeblair | so maybe still in process? | 22:38 |
| clarkb | could be | 22:38 |
| fungi | seems likely | 22:38 |
| jeblair | yeah, i agree 01 still says config | 22:38 |
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| jeblair | [12567] still say config | 22:41 |
| openstackgerrit | K Jonathan Harker proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: Reset the client object before creating the image https://review.openstack.org/74943 | 22:42 |
| jeblair | jjb is still running on 01 | 22:42 |
| jeblair | (have not checked others) | 22:42 |
| clarkb | that centos6 on 01 has chagned | 22:42 |
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| jeblair | jjb is still running on [134567] | 22:45 |
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| clarkb | gogogo jjb | 22:46 |
| fungi | none of the three missing jobs have been registered with workers in gearman yet either | 22:47 |
| jeblair | it's not running on 02, but the precise job has not updated there. also, 02 is very slow. | 22:48 |
| jeblair | i suspect we may need to restart jenkins on 02 and run jjb | 22:48 |
| fungi | i'll work on that | 22:49 |
| fungi | putting jenkins02 in prepare-for-shutdown now | 22:49 |
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| fungi | seems it's running no jobs at the moment either | 22:50 |
| clarkb | kk | 22:50 |
| fungi | and is chock full of cruft offline nodes too | 22:50 |
| jeblair | it has tons of offline slaves connected | 22:50 |
| jeblair | ya | 22:50 |
| jeblair | how about i make a list of slaves to keep, and we remove the rest? | 22:50 |
| jeblair | (while it's down) | 22:51 |
| fungi | can do | 22:51 |
| anteaya | I'm looking at the speaker schedule for the conf, while standing by and being available | 22:51 |
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| jeblair | fungi: list of slaves to keep at bottom of etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/repo-renaming-2014-10-17 | 22:52 |
| anteaya | the phrase "deep dive" is in contention for this rounds most overused phrase | 22:52 |
| jeblair | anteaya: i hope oxygen is provided | 22:52 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 22:52 |
| anteaya | they'll need it | 22:53 |
| jeblair | fungi, clarkb: we are changing every job in jenkins; this is bound to be slow | 22:53 |
| fungi | <space_ghost>are you getting enough oxygen?</space_ghost> | 22:53 |
| clarkb | jeblair: wait why are they all changing? | 22:53 |
| jeblair | clarkb: because their description changed | 22:54 |
| clarkb | :( | 22:54 |
| jeblair | 22:53 < jeblair> fungi, clarkb: we are changing every job in jenkins; this is bound to be slow | 22:54 |
| jeblair | gah | 22:54 |
| clarkb | but to recap everything else seems to be happy? puppet is running on these hosts without trouble best I can tell | 22:54 |
| clarkb | so there is that :) | 22:54 |
| jeblair | If you would like to make changes to this job, please see: | 22:55 |
| jeblair | that bit ^ | 22:55 |
| clarkb | ya | 22:55 |
| jeblair | clarkb: puppetmaster seems happy. we don't know about our jobs | 22:55 |
| anteaya | fungi: I don't know that reference | 22:55 |
| fungi | anteaya: it was a catch phrase from the television series "space ghost: coast to coast" | 22:56 |
| fungi | now faded into obscurity, no doubt | 22:56 |
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| marun | lifeless: so the neutron functional job is seeing subunit-generated errors | 22:56 |
| marun | lifeless: https://github.com/testing-cabal/subunit/blob/master/python/subunit/v2.py#L206 | 22:56 |
| marun | does anyone else have an idea of why subunit would run into these kinds of issues? | 22:57 |
| fungi | okay, getting jenkins02 to prepare for shutdown is taking faaaaar longer than it should. i may just need to kill it on its feet | 22:57 |
| jeblair | fungi: ++ | 22:57 |
| anteaya | fungi: ah thanks | 22:57 |
| clarkb | I think it took us about 45 minutes to update all the jobs in the past | 22:58 |
| clarkb | so we are just over halfway there (assuming that stays somewhat constant) | 22:58 |
| anteaya | I have money on "the good, the bad, and the ugly" for a top contender for vancover summit's overused phrase | 22:58 |
| anteaya | just peeking out now | 22:58 |
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| clarkb | I need to catch a bus in about 25 minutes so will have to take the AFK if thats ok | 22:59 |
| anteaya | clarkb: thanks for your help | 22:59 |
| anteaya | where are you off to? | 22:59 |
| anteaya | someplace fun I hope | 22:59 |
| clarkb | downtown for friday night shenanigans | 22:59 |
| anteaya | good | 22:59 |
| anteaya | enjoy shenanigans | 23:00 |
| fungi | okay, jenkins on 02 is finally dead. cleaning up the slaves list on it now | 23:00 |
| jeblair | clarkb: have fun | 23:00 |
| fungi | not deleting the 9 listed on the etherpad | 23:00 |
| fungi | pleasant shenanigans, clarkb | 23:00 |
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| clarkb | looks like 01 and 03 are about 5 minutes ahead of the others so should finish JJBing first | 23:01 |
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| fungi | all but those 9 slaves have been cleaned from the config on jenkins02. starting the service back up on it now | 23:05 |
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| fungi | should i start a manual jjb run on 02? | 23:05 |
| fungi | oho! our missing jobs just appeared in zuul's gearman status | 23:06 |
| jeblair | do we need to do something to cause the other masters to register jobs? | 23:07 |
| jeblair | i'm not up to date on the intricacies of the jenkins bug | 23:07 |
| fungi | from what we saw, it acted like it was batching registrations with some other event | 23:07 |
| jeblair | fungi: and yes, i think manually jjbing is good | 23:07 |
| fungi | and hence delayed | 23:07 |
| fungi | okay, jjb is updating 02 now | 23:08 |
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| anteaya | going through the summit speakers page I notice that offering round windows in a world that has square pictures for avatars causes some interesting effects | 23:13 |
| jeblair | saves on haircuts | 23:13 |
| anteaya | that it does | 23:14 |
| mordred | jeblair: not getting a haircut also saves on haircuts | 23:14 |
| mordred | jeblair: as does being a worstcat | 23:14 |
| fungi | you can't even begin to imagine how much money i save on haircuts | 23:14 |
| anteaya | for glistening and foldy avatar images | 23:15 |
| * pcrews loves the discussion around awful, straw covered felines | 23:19 | |
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| anteaya | pcrews: do I get to meet you in paris? | 23:20 |
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| jeblair | we're at t+50mins for the jjb run on 03 and still going | 23:21 |
| pcrews | anteaya: Sadly, no - won't get to go to this summit | 23:21 |
| anteaya | :( | 23:21 |
| anteaya | was hoping to meet you | 23:22 |
| anteaya | we need to work on that | 23:22 |
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| pcrews | same and same :) | 23:23 |
| anteaya | sound good :D | 23:25 |
| jeblair | i don't know if it's purely alphabeticaly, but it's at 'r'. notably it just got past the 'p's which are quite long ('python-') | 23:25 |
| anteaya | let's hope the p's were the hump | 23:26 |
| jeblair | g for gate is probably the largest :) | 23:26 |
| anteaya | I have a non-glistening, non-foldy, non-worst cat in my lap, and I want to have dinner | 23:26 |
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| anteaya | jeblair: true | 23:26 |
| anteaya | and I'm stuck | 23:26 |
| fungi | well, the recheck on 129396 succeeded anyway | 23:27 |
| anteaya | yay | 23:27 |
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| jeblair | so we're probably on autopilot for being completely fixed | 23:29 |
| jeblair | there might be a few jobs that fail in the next hour or so, but only related to the changed repo | 23:29 |
| jeblair | repos | 23:29 |
| jeblair | jjb on 03 is in the 'xstatic' section now :) | 23:30 |
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| jeblair | jjb on 03 is done | 23:32 |
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| jeblair | i have to run for a bit. i'll check back in later, but i think we're basically done | 23:32 |
| fungi | should i self-approve 129396 and send the completion announcement? | 23:33 |
| fungi | or do we need to hold off until jjb finishes updating everywhere? | 23:33 |
| pleia2 | time for me to catch a bus as well, but I'll be in and out later | 23:33 |
| jeblair | fungi: aprvd | 23:34 |
| jeblair | fungi: if it fails, i'll recheck | 23:34 |
| fungi | i'll be around the rest of the evening anyway if something does turn up broken that we missed | 23:34 |
| anteaya | jeblair pleia2 enjoy whatever you are doing next | 23:34 |
| anteaya | :D | 23:34 |
| anteaya | fungi: I'm cooking dinner but not going anywhere | 23:35 |
| anteaya | I'll keep cruising past | 23:35 |
| mtreinish | fungi: if you're around and waiting are you up doing a deep dive on my subunit2sql config patches? :) | 23:37 |
| mtreinish | err, I guess it's system-config now | 23:37 |
| anteaya | deep dive! | 23:37 |
| anteaya | everyone drink | 23:38 |
| mtreinish | anteaya: ok, one sec let me pour some more scotch | 23:39 |
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| fungi | mtreinish: eek, not sure my brain is up for a 700-line review tonight | 23:44 |
| fungi | i'm going to send the completion announcement to the dev ml and then keep one eye on irc while doing something less mentally-taxing | 23:45 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/system-config: Rename config to system-config in .gitreview https://review.openstack.org/129396 | 23:45 |
| mtreinish | fungi: heh, fair enough | 23:45 |
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| mtreinish | although 70-80% of the 700 lines is copy and pasted from clarkb's logstash workers | 23:46 |
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| mtreinish | I'll bug clarkb on monday to look at it | 23:46 |
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| mordred | fungi: btw - I believe lennart has heard all of my systemd hate - because now sound has stopped working | 23:50 |
| fungi | mordred: you should have expected that once pulseaudio became part of pid 1 | 23:50 |
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| mordred | fungi: isn't everything just pid 1 now? | 23:51 |
| mordred | I mean, why even have user-space programs at all | 23:52 |
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| fungi | mordred: why even have users at all? | 23:52 |
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| mordred | fungi: ++ | 23:53 |
| mordred | fungi: honestly, software works much better when it's just math on paper and you don't run it | 23:53 |
| fungi | especially if you use the green 5-per-cm gridpaper | 23:53 |
| fungi | 2mm grid i mean | 23:54 |
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| fungi | of course us letter 10 squares per inch graph paper was much easier to come by, but i remember coveting my a4 2mm grid because it was so metric | 23:56 |
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| mordred | mmm. gridpaper | 23:58 |
| mordred | that makes me want to go get a pad and make some D&D characters ... | 23:58 |
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