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| gyee | fabiog, I approved it | 00:14 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: ah, thanks, was just checking rebases on it (didn't realize it was already on head) | 00:14 |
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| gyee | morganfainberg, yeah, don't mention rebase with fabio | 00:15 |
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| gyee | he got plenty of that since the start of this patch :) | 00:15 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: hehe, if it's simple rebase issues i'd have done it for him. | 00:16 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee: any insight as to why some tests load test_overrides.conf when run independently, but when run in the whole test suite it doens't? | 00:23 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: i've… not run into this before. | 00:23 |
| henrynash | gyee: thx for the comments…just going to push up a new filter patch, then will make changes you suggestion to the protection one | 00:24 |
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| henrynash | bknudson: have made suggested changes to the filtering patch | 00:29 |
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| gyee | morganfainberg, I am not aware of that | 00:38 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee: i'm having a _very_ strange problem with testcases. it looks like the config isn't matching what is in test_overrides.conf, but only when i run all tests. if i run the individual tests, test_overrides is … being used. | 00:40 |
| henrynash | gyee, bknudson: new patches posted that satisfy all the comments ( I hope)…. | 00:40 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: i;m just baffled. | 00:40 |
| henrynash | morganfainberg: is it that you have changed a conf setting in one test not set it back or something | 00:41 |
| ayoung | gyee, I'm here | 00:41 |
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| gyee | ayoung, was going to ask you to hit the approve button, but I did it instead as there are +5s | 00:41 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash: if that is the case, it's one thats just lingering around from before i started working on this. | 00:42 |
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| gyee | setUp() and tearDown() are invoked for every test | 00:42 |
| ayoung | gyee, cool | 00:42 |
| gyee | so in theory, the conf files should be consistent | 00:42 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee, it's something very odd. going to keep digging. | 00:43 |
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| gyee | morganfainberg, are you using domain conf file overrides? | 00:45 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: hrm. | 00:45 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee: are they used by default? | 00:46 |
| gyee | domain conf files are disabled by default | 00:46 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee: it looks like it should still be loading the test_overrides though. | 00:47 |
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| gyee | morganfainberg, which test is this? | 00:51 |
| gyee | are you subclassing test_v3.RestfulTestCase? | 00:51 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: new test, one sec, will post a github branch with it. | 00:51 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee: no, it's part of TokenTests | 00:53 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee: i think it's an order of loading issue. | 00:57 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: but i'm just confused why the whole test-suite does it differently. ok posting this on github so i can point it out. | 00:57 |
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| henrynash | bknudson: when you have a moment, could you see if I have done enough for a 2nd +2 and Approval on: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38308/ | 00:58 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee: https://github.com/morganfainberg/keystone/blob/caching/keystone/tests/test_backend.py#L2406 | 01:01 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: https://github.com/morganfainberg/keystone/blob/caching/keystone/tests/test_overrides.conf is the test overrides. i think my config isn't loaded by the time the cache is instantiated | 01:01 |
| dolphm | henrynash: i sort of assumed you'd be replacing the existing policy.json the v3cloudsample policy json before this merged ... what's the point of maintaining two separate ones? | 01:02 |
| morganfainberg | gyee, but it's very odd that when you run the test like keystone.tests.test_backend_memcache it works and sets the proxy debugging to true | 01:03 |
| henrynash | dolphm: so we could do that…a couple of points to think about | 01:03 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: proxy = cache_backend | 01:04 |
| henrynash | dolphm: it's more complex and daunting than needed for simple mono-domain clouds | 01:04 |
| henrynash | dolphm: it contains a suggested production deployement scenario (an admin domain) which may or may not be to everyones taste | 01:05 |
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| gyee | morganfainberg, TokenTests have no setUp and tearDown? | 01:06 |
| morganfainberg | gyee they are a mixin. | 01:06 |
| dolphm | henrynash: whoa i totally missed that | 01:06 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: https://github.com/morganfainberg/keystone/blob/caching/keystone/tests/test_backend_sql.py#L336 | 01:07 |
| morganfainberg | SQL tests should provide the setUp/tearDown | 01:07 |
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| morganfainberg | erm "SqlTests" | 01:07 |
| gyee | ah I see | 01:07 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: example of what i'm running into: http://paste.openstack.org/show/45255/ | 01:08 |
| morganfainberg | (just snippets) | 01:08 |
| morganfainberg | the first one is just running tox -epy27 | 01:08 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43979/ | 01:09 |
| jamielennox | ayoung yea, i get what you mean | 01:10 |
| jamielennox | honestly i was really aiming for most of a rearrange | 01:11 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee: i wonder if i'm somehow getting mixed CONF objects. | 01:13 |
| jamielennox | ayoung, but given that bknudson did a review for me and that >75% are commenting on existing code i'm going to have to clean it up anyway so i guess i should do it all at once | 01:13 |
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| gyee | morganfainberg, as if the entire backend switched on you | 01:15 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: yeah, it is really baffling. | 01:16 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee: hm. i think i know how to solve this. | 01:18 |
| gyee | remove tmp dir at the start of every test? | 01:19 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee: maybe. | 01:19 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, yeah. There is a colorful expression about polishing things that can't be polished that applies here | 01:20 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, or, refactor this before moving the code around. | 01:20 |
| ayoung | I think it will be easier to keep from breaking things if we de-duplicate the code | 01:20 |
| gyee | mother of all refactoring :) | 01:20 |
| jamielennox | de-duplicate? | 01:21 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, get it so that we don't carry around the long parameter list, and the code to boilerplate add it it to the object | 01:21 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee: my thought was to rebuild the endire cache region instance. didn't solve it. something is going wrong with the should_cache function. like somehow the cache objects are not really treated like they are global. | 01:22 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee_food: anyways, thanks for the help. | 01:23 |
| morganfainberg | gyee_food: i'll keep digging. | 01:23 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: region objects are treated global? | 01:23 |
| dolphm | grammar* | 01:23 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm: i instantiate a single as keystone.common.cache.REGION | 01:24 |
| morganfainberg | single instance. | 01:24 |
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| morganfainberg | and everything should be referencing keystone.common.cache.on_arguments (for the decorator), and the keystone.common.cache.on_arguments is a name for keystone.common.cache.REGION.cache_on_arguments | 01:25 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: so it *is* a global variable then? | 01:25 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm: yes. | 01:25 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: ah, i read your statement backwards (missed the "not") | 01:26 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm: yeah. | 01:26 |
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| morganfainberg | or the config is somehow being stomped on. | 01:26 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: when is the config consumed? | 01:27 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm: in a couple places, https://github.com/morganfainberg/keystone/blob/caching/keystone/common/cache/core.py#L74, which is called on load_backends now. | 01:28 |
| morganfainberg | erm. sorry, https://github.com/morganfainberg/keystone/blob/caching/keystone/common/cache/core.py#L101 | 01:29 |
| morganfainberg | https://github.com/morganfainberg/keystone/blob/caching/keystone/common/cache/core.py#L101, which i changed to cache.REGION = cache.configure_cache_region(CONF) | 01:30 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm: the really strange part is the 'debug_cache_backend' value set in test_overrides.conf doesn't seem to get applied, telling me somehow things are all sorts of … wonky | 01:32 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: hrm... | 01:32 |
| morganfainberg | but if you run the individual test file, it works | 01:32 |
| morganfainberg | and everything is loaded jsut fine. | 01:33 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm: http://paste.openstack.org/show/45255/ as i showed gyee, top one is tox -epy27, bottom is tox -epy27 keystone.tests.test_backend_sql | 01:34 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: i want to say either bkhudson or stevemar ran into the opposite issue (tests worked when run as a set, but failed when run individually) | 01:38 |
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| stevemar | dolphm: yeah, weird test stuff ... i tried running just the one test, failed; then ran the entire suite, passed; then i was able to run the individual test just fine | 01:39 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: should you be tearing down the region between tests? or is caching enabled for some tests where it's not expected to be? | 01:40 |
| dolphm | stevemar: you didn't have to find a resolution? | 01:41 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm: i put the reinit of the region in load_backends, but i could probably move it to setUp | 01:41 |
| stevemar | dolphm: nope, i think running the entire suite fixed what was wrong | 01:41 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm: there isn't really a teardown step. | 01:41 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: i know i ran into a vaguely similar issue where running the exact same individual test twice always failed the second time... | 01:41 |
| stevemar | i think something was up with the dbs | 01:41 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: would configure_cache_region() override an existing (already configured) region? | 01:42 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm: not at the moment, you'd need to bind the new one to keystone.common.cache.REGION | 01:43 |
| morganfainberg | explicitly | 01:43 |
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| morganfainberg | the configure_cache_region returns the currently configured cache_region if it is already configured (it expects you to pass the region to it) | 01:44 |
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| morganfainberg | so, cache.REGION = cache.configure_cache_region(CONF) would make a new one. | 01:44 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: you default REGION to dogpile.cache.make_region() though... so it's guaranteed to be two separate regions by the time a test starts executing? | 01:44 |
| dolphm | https://github.com/morganfainberg/keystone/blob/caching/keystone/common/cache/core.py#L32 | 01:44 |
| morganfainberg | oh god, am i namespacing wrong here? | 01:44 |
| morganfainberg | you can bind a new value to a name in another module, right? | 01:45 |
| dolphm | sure | 01:45 |
| morganfainberg | cachge.REGION = new_region | 01:45 |
| morganfainberg | erm | 01:45 |
| morganfainberg | cache.REGION | 01:45 |
| morganfainberg | then it should be fine, load_backends does explicitly that in my local test. | 01:46 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm: https://github.com/morganfainberg/keystone/blob/caching/keystone/tests/core.py#L282 | 01:48 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: i don't see any issue with that | 01:50 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: is CONF the correct variable to provide there? | 01:51 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm: it should be, i'm expecting the global config object, i guess could just remove that need and reference CONF in cache (kindof silly to do it the way i did it now that i look at it) | 01:52 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm: i mean, global config object should be global config object. | 01:53 |
| morganfainberg | right? | 01:53 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: yep | 01:53 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: what matters is when you read from it, i suppose | 01:54 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm: i know the issue. | 02:01 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm: or one of them. | 02:01 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm: the "on_arguments" decorator is tied to a specific cache region, you can't bind a name over it | 02:02 |
| morganfainberg | you end up caching to the wrong region instance then. | 02:02 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: ah | 02:04 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: that would be a significant issue lol | 02:04 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm: thats one oddity down, still having the differing test results, but at least i'm not wondering why the cache region is being wonky | 02:05 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: i was going to suggest initializing REGION to None and having configure_cache_region() set REGION and on_arguments just to see what would happen | 02:05 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm: we can't actually do that, since the cache_on_arguments decorator is a bound method to the cache region | 02:06 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm: and the decorator is needed at import time =/ | 02:06 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: so you need configuration to be correct at import time? is that possible? | 02:07 |
| dolphm | s/correct/final/ | 02:07 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm: no, you just need the region object | 02:07 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm: so we get the decorator. | 02:07 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: but you can't have the region object without config | 02:07 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm: sure you can, you can configure a region at any point, you just can't cache to it before it is configured | 02:08 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: but you need the decorator from the region at import, so you need the region ASAP | 02:08 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm: this is why keystone.common.cache.REGION is bound to the result of make_region() | 02:09 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: maybe make on_arguments a proxy object? | 02:09 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm: thats a good idea, i'll try that next. | 02:09 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm: ooh! step closer, failing both times now! yay! | 02:14 |
| dolphm | ha | 02:15 |
| morganfainberg | and i'm getting expected debug output. ok this is good. | 02:15 |
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| morganfainberg | damn it spoke too soon. | 02:21 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm: well thanks for your help, going to go pull apart this stuff and see if i can get to the bottom of it. | 02:21 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm: catch ya tomorrow. | 02:21 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: good luck :-/ | 02:21 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm: oh and i'm going to punt on caching the list_* methods unless i have this nailed down early tonight | 02:22 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm: since i'll need to wait for henrynash's code to merge in or rebase his patch onto the caching chain. | 02:22 |
| morganfainberg | talked w/ gyee, and it might be easier to implement that caching in early Icehouse. | 02:23 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung: ping | 03:20 |
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| jamielennox | is it possible to have a token scoped to a domain/project AND a trust or does the trust just override? | 03:27 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox: i think tokens can only be scoped to a project, domain, or trust. | 03:27 |
| jamielennox | ok | 03:27 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox: let me check. | 03:27 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg, that's not covered in the trust in keystoneclient | 03:28 |
| jamielennox | it appears a trust will override the domain or project silently | 03:28 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox: hm. | 03:28 |
| morganfainberg | ok | 03:28 |
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| morganfainberg | so it looks like the scope in issue token does a domain/project | 03:29 |
| morganfainberg | and trust is handled a separate part of the token, so trust + project/domain is valid | 03:29 |
| morganfainberg | erm, validate_token code | 03:30 |
| morganfainberg | let me check how the auth data handles it. | 03:30 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox: ok i'm now confused. | 03:31 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox: ah | 03:34 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/auth/controllers.py#L310 | 03:35 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox: trust project_id should be the same as project_id. | 03:36 |
| morganfainberg | according to that | 03:36 |
| jamielennox | won't that just override it/. | 03:36 |
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| jamielennox | actually, what the hell does that do? | 03:37 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox: you know what, i am a little lost on trusts. | 03:37 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg, i get the idea, they just seem to keep popping up and overriding behaviour i though i understood | 03:38 |
| jamielennox | that function only seems to check that there is some kind of scoping going on | 03:38 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox: yeah. i think the idea is if impersonate is not set to true, the trust makes the token keep the user, and the project id is overridden to be the trustor's project | 03:39 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox: if impersonate is set to true, the user also is the trustor | 03:39 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox: afaik trusts aren't domain level yet | 03:39 |
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| jamielennox | so i'm still not sure if that answers my question, is it legit to have both specified in a token | 03:41 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox: a domain and trust? | 03:41 |
| jamielennox | shouldn't the token determine project_id from trust_id | 03:41 |
| jamielennox | domain and trust or project and trust | 03:41 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox: issue_v3_token would seem to allow it. | 03:43 |
| morganfainberg | ah | 03:43 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox: sorry i'm not more help atm | 03:55 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg, that's ok, i was willing to just leave it work the way it currently does - i thought i'd ask on the hope that ayoung or shardy_afk was here | 03:56 |
| jamielennox | or you'd suddenly gotten into trusts | 03:56 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox: i've poked at them limitedly. | 03:56 |
| morganfainberg | you might know this. | 03:57 |
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| morganfainberg | when running keystone, HTTP, or wsgi, does service.py get loaded after config is setup? | 03:58 |
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| morganfainberg | i am guessing yes. | 03:58 |
| morganfainberg | since the managers are instantiated. | 03:58 |
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| jamielennox | service.py? | 03:58 |
| morganfainberg | keystone/service.py, loaded by the paste deployment stuff | 03:59 |
| jamielennox | oh right | 03:59 |
| morganfainberg | it looks like config is put together before that is loaded. | 03:59 |
| jamielennox | i would suggest it had to be | 03:59 |
| morganfainberg | i have been fighting with a transient bug in tests and cache | 03:59 |
| morganfainberg | specifically, it is because service.py gets loaded behind the scenes in tests, but the test-config isn't loaded until later | 04:00 |
| morganfainberg | i think i've finally solved the issue | 04:00 |
| morganfainberg | but it was kinda a doosy. | 04:00 |
| jamielennox | hmm ok, no i can't help there i don't think | 04:01 |
| morganfainberg | nah, it's fine, i'm going to run it in devstack in a moment to test. | 04:02 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox: yay! i fixed my test problem | 04:51 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg, import order issue? | 04:51 |
| jamielennox | I've got a new low for you as well | 04:52 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox: nope. issue where tests weren't properly tearing down the cache region object, since it was already configured when they got to it | 04:52 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox: should i be scared? | 04:52 |
| jamielennox | there is this serialize function on keystoneclient which just does a json, but in v3 it does a json with sort_keys i thought it was something to do with protocol or something but it appears to be because if you don't sort the keys you don't know the EXACT parameters to use when you mock out the function | 04:53 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox: ... | 04:54 |
| morganfainberg | i. | 04:54 |
| morganfainberg | i… have no words | 04:54 |
| morganfainberg | besides, i'm sorry :( | 04:54 |
| jamielennox | so not sorting keys breaks a lot of tests because all the mocks fail to get called | 04:54 |
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| jamielennox | how do you keep backwards compatibility with that? | 04:54 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox: you re-work the test framework to handle it, then remove the sortkeys | 04:56 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox: how to do that… not sure where to start | 04:56 |
| jamielennox | i was trying really hard not to rework tests | 04:57 |
| jamielennox | i still haven't gotten that last httpretty one through | 04:57 |
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| raies | annegentle: please suggest someone from neutron team to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/42624/ | 05:59 |
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| raies | is there someone from neutron team ? | 06:10 |
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| henrynash | morganfainberg: you around? | 08:32 |
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| morganfainberg | henrynash: yep | 08:33 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash: i'm always around ;) | 08:33 |
| henrynash | morganfainberg: :-) | 08:33 |
| henrynash | morganfainberg: did you get your weird test isse sorted> | 08:33 |
| morganfainberg | though it's late and i have Dr. appt tomorrow, so wont be around too much too much longer. | 08:33 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash: yes i did. | 08:33 |
| morganfainberg | it was a doozy. | 08:33 |
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| morganfainberg | so, tests were loading in service.py, which was configuring the cache region. | 08:34 |
| morganfainberg | since the cache region was already configured, tests were having a hard time tearing it down/setting it uop | 08:34 |
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| morganfainberg | so no caching was really happening. But actually running keystone the normal way, you'd never see this issue. | 08:35 |
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| henrynash | morganfainberg: ahhh….anoyingly simple. So two things: 1) we need to talk caching, and 2) would you like to do the final honors on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38308/ | 08:35 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash: sure thing. i shall do the honors! | 08:36 |
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| morganfainberg | henrynash: somehow i think that patch is going to make more rebase work for me :P | 08:37 |
| henrynash | morganfaiberg: you want to talk about caching & filtering now…or do that in the morning (your call) | 08:37 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash: can do it now quickly, not sure when i'll be on tomorrow | 08:37 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash: vampire appt ;) | 08:37 |
| henrynash | morganfainberg: ahhh | 08:37 |
| morganfainberg | one sec, i think i forgot something. | 08:38 |
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| morganfainberg | henrynash: ok | 08:40 |
| morganfainberg | all done | 08:40 |
| morganfainberg | forgot to add a couple lines to my commit message https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43609/ | 08:40 |
| henrynash | morganfainberg: Ok, i'll certainly go through it this morning and comment…but I assume the question is o lists? | 08:42 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash: so, regarding caching and filtering. After talking to gyee, i am thinking it might be worth punting the list_* caching until icehouse. As it stands it would require significant rebase work on one of our two parts to hit havana. i'd rather not jeapordize filtering for that. | 08:42 |
| henrynash | morganfainberg: that was going to be my suggestion too | 08:42 |
| morganfainberg | see, look at that, i'm easy to convince! | 08:42 |
| morganfainberg | :) | 08:42 |
| henrynash | IF we could just have great caching on get_<entity> I think we are quids/dollars/yen in | 08:43 |
| morganfainberg | I still want to try and get in user/group CRUD in caching for H (one last patchset), but the added tests are a bit time consuming to add. | 08:43 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash: with my current patchsets, we have get_token, get_domain, get_project, get_role | 08:44 |
| morganfainberg | i was scared of touching grants, because they can change out from under the manager. | 08:44 |
| henrynash | morganfainberg: great…and agree that get_user would be the other big one (get_group nice too) | 08:44 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash: and i am doing agressive caching, when an item is created, i force it into the cache | 08:45 |
| henrynash | morganfainberg: yeah, and we;ll probably change a lot of that in IceHouse (grants, that is) | 08:45 |
| morganfainberg | i assume people are going to use it immidiately | 08:45 |
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| morganfainberg | henrynash: also i hit revocation_list | 08:46 |
| henrynash | morganfainberg: I'd bet that any_time you see get_<entity> you'll get 2 or 3 again with in a few 100 ms | 08:46 |
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| morganfainberg | henrynash: yep. thats the idea. | 08:46 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash: but if someone tries to use the in-memory cache…oh mercy upon that poor soul. | 08:47 |
| morganfainberg | anyways. please comment on the patches. | 08:47 |
| morganfainberg | oh | 08:47 |
| morganfainberg | if you're going to be around a bit... | 08:47 |
| henrynash | morganfainberg:yep, will do this morning | 08:47 |
| morganfainberg | could you press go on this one once jenkins finishes check on it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41208/ | 08:48 |
| morganfainberg | had to rebase it… been fighting gate on that one for … 12 hrs? | 08:48 |
| morganfainberg | (all transient non-related issues for the most part) | 08:48 |
| henrynash | morganfainberg: will do | 08:48 |
| morganfainberg | appriciate it | 08:49 |
| morganfainberg | have a good one man. | 08:49 |
| morganfainberg | oh. you going to be in HK? | 08:49 |
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| morganfainberg | cause, i'm making a mental list of the people i need to be sure to run across if they're going to be there (not that the keystone types are going to be hard for me to find) | 08:50 |
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| raies | anyone from newtron ? | 11:44 |
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| raies | fifieldt: will you please check https://review.openstack.org/#/c/42624/ | 11:57 |
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| jcapel | Anyone from horizon here? I implemented this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44042/ - now the tests fail (http://paste.openstack.org/show/45280/). I could use some pointers on where/how to fix that. | 12:30 |
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| ttx | lifeless: I don't have the current numbers. jeblair may be able to run the script for you | 12:57 |
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| henrynash | dolphm: update for you on my two patches | 13:24 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: ack | 13:24 |
| henrynash | dolphm: target API protection (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38308/) was approved last night, but fail to merge (due to endpoint_filter patch sneaking in ahead of it…rebase now in Jenkins) | 13:25 |
| henrynash | dolphm: filtering is the one for today (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43257/). No outstanding changes, although need to decide if we are happy for it to go in (no feedback from gabriel as yet). | 13:26 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, looking now, too | 13:27 |
| ayoung | henrynash, you are comfortable that it adds no new vectors for sql injection? | 13:27 |
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| henrynash | dolphm: one concern raised (that is always important whenever you are adding more generated SQL) is whether we are exposing ourself to an SQL inject attack | 13:27 |
| henrynash | ayoung: ha! | 13:27 |
| ayoung | henrynash, can you put in a couple tests around that? | 13:28 |
| ayoung | and run them against the live databases? | 13:28 |
| henrynash | ayoung: I'm happy that it doesn't…we don't pass in sql directly, we use the sqlalchemt.filter() | 13:28 |
| ayoung | henrynash, and we trust sqlalchemy? | 13:28 |
| henrynash | ayoung: the same way Nova and Glance do | 13:28 |
| ayoung | They are not the standard we hold ourselves to | 13:29 |
| dolphm | ayoung: if you want to try and exploit filter() that's fine... but this isn't the patch to do test it in | 13:29 |
| ayoung | dolphm, why not? | 13:29 |
| ayoung | dolphm, it is general purpose filtering, which is , if nothing else, enought to attract the attention of the script kiddies | 13:30 |
| ayoung | if we don't test it, you can be sure that someone else out there will | 13:30 |
| ayoung | Like nate | 13:30 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, OTOH, if this has been tested elsewhere, I'd be happy with a reference | 13:31 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, can we use bound parameters? | 13:33 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: when you say bound, you mean we do something like model.column.filter("text") | 13:34 |
| ayoung | dolphm, ldap fix ... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40283/ doesn't need to be in before H3, but it has sat there for a while | 13:34 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, I just found a reference to it on another doc, but the link is dead. I think it means prepared statements and then binding the parameters to it, but I'll research and get back to you | 13:36 |
| ayoung | henrynash, let me look at the protection patch first, though, as I Approved that one and want to be in on the reapproval | 13:38 |
| henrynash | ayoung: ok…its in jenkins right now…only modification was to change @protected to @protected() in endpoint filter controller (that snunk in ahead of me) | 13:39 |
| ayoung | henrynash, I see. OK, makes sense. I did a diff from the older version of the patch, and see the changed files are almost all in the new extension....another vote of confidnece for the extension mech | 13:40 |
| ayoung | henrynash, ok...back to bind parameters | 13:40 |
| ayoung | to avoid sql injection attacks, the approved approach is to prepare a statement and then use the drives mechanism to bind valriables to the parameters of the statement | 13:41 |
| ayoung | I don't think filter does that | 13:41 |
| ayoung | it just escapes the apostrophe's etc. Probably OK, but not quite as safe | 13:41 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, for example, look at the code in the question here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1058037/execute-a-prepared-statement-in-sqlalchemy | 13:43 |
| ayoung | now, I don't think sqla does that for you under any circumstances, which is really too bad | 13:43 |
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| ayoung | aside from safer sql execution, it would make db access a heck of a lot faster: the sql compiler is removed from the execution | 13:44 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: doesn't that mean we are doing sqlalchemy's job of ensure our SQL works with a particular DB engine? | 13:44 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: I agree, that means we could screw down exactly what scope there is for attacks | 13:46 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: that seems a pretty big bar for us to jump | 13:47 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, this has been quietly nagging me in the back of my skull for while. You just had the misfortune to bring up the patch that brought it to the forefront | 13:49 |
| henrynash | ayoung: always happy to act as therapist, reasonable rates an all :-) | 13:49 |
| ayoung | henrynash, so, add a couple tests to the content_types to see if you can break it. | 13:49 |
| henrynash | ayoung: ok, let me try… | 13:50 |
| ayoung | If it passes a reasonable attack there, I'll say "no worse than existing" | 13:50 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, one possible thing we could do in the future is something like: let sqla generate the sql, but without the parameters substituted, and then pass that to a prepare statement call. | 13:51 |
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| ayoung | actually, if we did this right, it would be shareable across the eventlet code, and could have major performance benefits as well....definitely something to consider for Icehouse | 13:52 |
| henrynash | ayoung: …and I need to look at what sqlalchemy is doing, since I looked at the SQL output it is generating for my filters, and it uses "name = :name1", where it has build name1 as some late binding parameter or something | 13:53 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, I could see using stored procedures even, assuming that sql alchemy could act as the sql generation layer. Probably not everythere, but for the heaviest used functions, if we can't find some way in Python to mitigate the load. | 13:58 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: give me a couple of hours to investigate | 13:59 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, so what is the difference between @controller.protected and @controller.protected()? I realize the second executes a function that lets us register a callaback, but is the registration of the callback a standard @decorator mechanism? | 14:01 |
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| roaet | Is it normal for neutron-dhcp and neutron-openvswitch-agent to poll in devstack? | 14:02 |
| henrynash | yes…see identity controller forexamples | 14:02 |
| henrynash | @protected(callback=myfunc) | 14:02 |
| roaet | just wondering about this constant logging | 14:02 |
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| anteaya | ttx I just created this wiki page for some election supervision guidelines/how to: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Election_Officiating_Guidelines Your corrections/input welcome | 14:24 |
| anteaya | I linked it to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance | 14:24 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: so I tried some basinal attacks and I can't crack it so far, e.g. GET "/users?name='anything' or 'x'='x'" doesn't get you all the rows, it gets you none | 14:25 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: and GET "/users?name='x'; drop table 'users'" does do what we would fear | 14:26 |
| ayoung | henrynash, really! | 14:26 |
| henrynash | ayoung: sorry DOESN"T do what we would fear | 14:26 |
| henrynash | ayoung: so it doesn't drop the table | 14:26 |
| ayoung | I thought that was what you meant | 14:26 |
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| henrynash | ayoung, dolphm: could one or both of you push the buttons again on the rebased https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38308/ | 15:10 |
| ayoung | henrynash, looking | 15:10 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: done | 15:11 |
| ayoung | twice | 15:11 |
| henrynash | thx!!! | 15:11 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: so on filtering are you ok (or at least bit better with it now)?, Do you want me put a test in that tries sql injection like the examples I showed before? | 15:20 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, I'd like the tests, but they can go in after, since you tested "live" I assume against mysql? | 15:20 |
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| henrynash | ayoungl actually, let me run the tests across all the DBs befoew we decide | 15:21 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: just checked against MySQL and Postgresql | 15:33 |
| ayoung | henrynash, good to go? | 15:33 |
| henrynash | ayoung: yep | 15:33 |
| ayoung | k | 15:33 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: bit this one hasn't been approved before, so we need to get at least another +2. (bknudson has already had a good bash at it) | 15:35 |
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| stevemar | dolphm: take a look at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43611/ | 15:37 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, should "trim_to_list_limit" be a function on the main Manager class? | 15:39 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: it needs to be called from the driver level as well…so can assignment/backend/sql call something in the Manager class? | 15:40 |
| ayoung | henrynash, I'm making a handful of comments, but nothing that is a stop-ship | 15:41 |
| flaper87 | dhellmann: hey, if you get a chance, could you take a look at this patch again? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/32544/14 Thanks a lot! | 15:41 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, you have it on the manager in at least one case | 15:41 |
| henrynash | ayoung: hmm, really? | 15:41 |
| ayoung | henrynash, catalog core line 87 | 15:41 |
| dhellmann | flaper87: sure thing | 15:41 |
| ayoung | er 79 | 15:41 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, driver should be pure virtual. limit should be passed in externally, I think. Could be set in the constructor. | 15:42 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: so driver functions are allowed to be internal starting with _ (at least that is how the test checks it_ | 15:43 |
| henrynash | checks it) | 15:43 |
| ayoung | yeah...I know... | 15:44 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, lets just say that there is a future cleanup there for now....can't quite wrap my brain about the correct impl at the moment | 15:44 |
| henrynash | ayoung: ok, happy to commit to clean up | 15:44 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, wrap_collection now takes a query_string...where is that set | 15:45 |
| ayoung | what uses it? It is the place I would be most worried about an injection attack | 15:45 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: in a controller list_<entity> method | 15:45 |
| ayoung | henrynash, I see it used in the identity controller. | 15:46 |
| dolphm | stevemar: there's a lot of inconsistency in the existing doc on the plurality of url segments | 15:46 |
| ayoung | it comes out of context...and before that... | 15:46 |
| dolphm | stevemar: /access_tokens/ in one example is /access_token/ in another | 15:46 |
| henrynash | ayoung: it is the set of query terms as a dict, built from the url | 15:46 |
| ayoung | shudder | 15:47 |
| ayoung | that is explicitly the path you tested above? | 15:47 |
| henrynash | ayoung: yes | 15:47 |
| stevemar | dolphm: huh? | 15:47 |
| stevemar | dolphm: oh, in general? | 15:47 |
| henrynash | I tried it at the url level…and then also repeated it at the backend_sql leve | 15:48 |
| henrynash | (in cases some how the sql injection text was getting munged) | 15:48 |
| ayoung | dolphm, henrynash, this scares me....I'm not an expert on it, but this is exactly the kind of stuff that leads to CVEs. would like Bryan Payne to weigh in on this one. | 15:48 |
| stevemar | dolphm: i count 1 inconsistency | 15:49 |
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| dolphm | stevemar: i'm confused... i thought /access_tokens/ always existed on a specific /users/{user_id}/ | 15:51 |
| dolphm | stevemar: when the consumer creates a request token, how is the user that should authorize it identified? | 15:52 |
| henrynash | ayoung: do you know his handle? | 15:52 |
| ayoung | bdpayne | 15:52 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, https://launchpad.net/~bdpayne | 15:52 |
| ayoung | dolphm, I know we have a self imposed deadline for feature freeze, but I think that Henry's patch deserves proper security review. I am formally requesting an extension for it. | 15:53 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: what are you talking about? | 15:54 |
| ayoung | Otherwise, I have to recommend we bump it to Icehouse. I don't want it to be rushed in just to avoid the deadline, and then find we've opened up for a SQL injection attack via a vector we did not consider | 15:54 |
| stevemar | dolphm: when the consumer creates a request token, it should be unauthorized | 15:54 |
| ayoung | dolphm, I am not a sql injection expert | 15:54 |
| dolphm | ayoung: bump what? | 15:54 |
| ayoung | dolphm, SQL filtering | 15:54 |
| dolphm | ayoung: is that already in review? | 15:54 |
| ayoung | yep | 15:55 |
| dolphm | ayoung: and you're expecting a week to be insufficient? | 15:55 |
| dolphm | to merge | 15:55 |
| henrynash | dolphm: that's the backend filtering cahnge | 15:55 |
| ayoung | dolphm, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43257/ | 15:55 |
| ayoung | dolphm, I thought the deadline was today | 15:55 |
| dolphm | ayoung: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/FeatureProposalFreeze is today | 15:55 |
| ayoung | but not feature freeze itself? Just proposal? | 15:56 |
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| ayoung | Ah..ok.... | 15:56 |
| dolphm | ayoung: feature freeze is openstack-wide and sept 4th | 15:56 |
| ayoung | dolphm, ok...misunderstood. | 15:56 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: the goal is to give us a buffer, to allow time to review | 15:57 |
| ayoung | henrynash, I added bdpayne to the review. Suggest you find others that are SQL injection savvy as well. | 15:57 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: Ok, agreed…let's take a few days and get wider input, add additional tests if necessary | 15:58 |
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| dolphm | stevemar: correc, but which user is expected to authorize it? | 16:00 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: feel free to make your other comments and I will address... | 16:00 |
| stevemar | dolphm: currently, any user | 16:01 |
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| dolphm | stevemar: finally replied to your comments | 16:33 |
| stevemar | dolphm: hooray | 16:34 |
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| gyee | dolphm, the freeze happening today? | 16:46 |
| dolphm | gyee: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/FeatureProposalFreeze https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Havana_Release_Schedule | 16:46 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm: solved the weird test problem. turns out tests loaded service.py, cache region was configured by service.py, tests couldn't handle it. | 17:46 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: i saw you made some interesting changes - is it because service.py was loading keystone.common.config vs keystone.config? | 17:55 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm: no the core of the changes was that the tests were loading service.py, which configured the cache region. tests couldn't reconfigure/deconfigure since it assumed first run the cache region was empty. | 17:57 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm: chaging cache to load keystone.config instead was consistency with everything else. | 17:58 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm: running under real (non-test) environments, you'd never load service.py with no config (unless you really intended to use all defaults) | 17:59 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm: got to run. be back this afternoon (pacific time) | 18:00 |
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| samalba | I am adding a config option in nova.conf, but I'd like to set a default if option is not set | 18:09 |
| samalba | 1/ Is it a normal behavior? | 18:09 |
| samalba | 2/ Is there a cleaner way to do it rather than: value = CONF.opt if opt in CONF else DEFAULT | 18:10 |
| samalba | or should I never specify a default | 18:10 |
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| samalba | I thinkg I found my answer in: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/Config | 18:13 |
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| wolfdreamer | ah, so are we getting spammed on Launchpad for neutron reviews ( jeblair ) ..... | 18:57 |
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| jeblair | wolfdreamer: i have no idea what you're talking about | 18:58 |
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| wolfdreamer | I just saw "recheck no bug" on two reviews I was looking at | 18:59 |
| wolfdreamer | I apologize if that isn't you jeblair | 18:59 |
| jeblair | wolfdreamer: yes, i left those comments to re-enqueue changes after restarting zuul; what does that have to do with launchpad? | 18:59 |
| wolfdreamer | sorry, I guess not the same thign | 19:00 |
| jeblair | wolfdreamer: ah, yes, i've been spamming gerrit because we had to restart zuul a few times this week | 19:00 |
| wolfdreamer | jeblair, ha, ok. That makes sense now | 19:01 |
| jeblair | wolfdreamer: we've been trying to get performance improvements in before h3, which has meant a few restarts during busy times | 19:01 |
| jeblair | wolfdreamer: hopefully that last one should take care of it for a while. | 19:01 |
| wolfdreamer | jeblair, thanks | 19:01 |
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| romcheg | mtreinish: Hi, are you around? | 19:04 |
| mtreinish | romcheg: hi what's up | 19:04 |
| romcheg | mtreinish: I was just about to ask you to take a look at this patch at devstack that already got one +2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41053/ | 19:05 |
| romcheg | mtreinish: sorry for my impatience :) | 19:06 |
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| mtreinish | romcheg: sure I can take a look, but I don't have +2 on devstack :) | 19:06 |
| romcheg | mtreinish: Hmm, in that case sorry, I was suggested to poke you about this :) | 19:06 |
| mtreinish | romcheg: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/50,members | 19:07 |
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| romcheg | thanks for the link | 19:08 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: can you take another look at this? sounds like you only had a minor objection https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43566/ | 19:43 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, looking | 20:05 |
| dolphm | ayoung: danke! | 20:05 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, approved. Makes sense | 20:06 |
| dolphm | ayoung: that's testing for one of the issues he ran into during dev | 20:06 |
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| ayoung | I caught fragments of the conversation | 20:07 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, I think I want to drop the Federation API spec as is. Instead, lets just specify how the various federation protocols would be listed as "methods" | 20:07 |
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| dolphm | stevemar: ^ | 20:08 |
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| stevemar | ahoy hoy | 20:09 |
| stevemar | ayoung: by drop you mean eliminate? | 20:09 |
| annegentle_ | dolphm: do you have someone who could work on https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/986980? Basically deprecating KVS driver from all docs. | 20:10 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 986980 in openstack-manuals "No documentation about token backends" [Medium,Confirmed] | 20:10 |
| dolphm | dstanek: want to tackle? ^ | 20:10 |
| ayoung | stevemar, yeah. I think I like the general approach, but I think that "Federation" is not a concept separate from Keystone. | 20:10 |
| ayoung | Keystone is an Identity Hub, and Federation, meaning linking in multiple Identity Sources, is kindof what Keystone does | 20:11 |
| ayoung | stevemar, I had a discussion with simo about a week ago. I think that he was suggesting much the same thing. Imaging, for a moment, that we had to deploy the identity backend and the assignment backend on separate systems. | 20:12 |
| ayoung | assignment would need to make remote calls to identity | 20:12 |
| annegentle_ | dstanek: I can walk you through | 20:12 |
| ayoung | that is basically what ABFAB and SAML are saying | 20:12 |
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| ayoung | with LDAP, we have a mapping layer, but it is essentially the same thing | 20:13 |
| stevemar | ayoung: do you have any federated identity resources I could read? | 20:13 |
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| ayoung | So I would see ABFAB, SAML, and any other Federation mechanisms as just addditional identity sources. | 20:14 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, look through davidchadwicks publications to start. | 20:14 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, I've been kindof learning this by doing | 20:17 |
| ayoung | the kent folk wrote up a federation blueprint about ayear ago | 20:17 |
| ayoung | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/federation | 20:17 |
| stevemar | ayoung: yeah, i've been reading throuhgh that, i did lots of digging around through the blueprints | 20:18 |
| stevemar | ayoung: there was also one started by savak | 20:18 |
| dstanek | dolphm: looking now | 20:18 |
| dolphm | dstanek: annegentle_: thanks! | 20:18 |
| dstanek | annegentle_: thanks :) | 20:18 |
| ayoung | stevemar, beyond that...I was reading up on SAML | 20:18 |
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| ayoung | It ibascally an X509 extension | 20:18 |
| stevemar | ayoung: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Keystone_Virtual_Identity_Providers and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/virtual-idp | 20:18 |
| dolphm | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/oath-openid-connect | 20:20 |
| dolphm | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/saml-id | 20:20 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, "Non-keystone identities" is a misnomer | 20:24 |
| ayoung | Keystone needs to be able to consume them | 20:24 |
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| ayoung | however, a remote keystone can be the IdP for another keystone | 20:25 |
| ayoung | stevemar, I wrote up a BP for distributed signing a while ago, but needed some prereqs in place to implement. One of which is dealing with figureing out which Keystone signed which token | 20:25 |
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| stevemar | ayoung: derailing you a bit, but as I told dolphm earlier; i was to do something with federated iden, and make magic happen in Icehouse release | 20:27 |
| ayoung | stevemar, also, one of the issues we have is that Horizon is fronting the Keystone interactions. Horizon plays a facade to the rest of OpenStack, so I don't really see that as a problem, but we need to do something about the authentication mechanism passthrough | 20:27 |
| stevemar | ayoung: you going to be working on this stuff mostly, in I? | 20:27 |
| ayoung | stevemar, So I want SAML and ABFAB as identity backends | 20:28 |
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| stevemar | ayoung: we might get ABFAB as a freebie, via chadwicks work | 20:28 |
| ayoung | stevemar, going to be? Sort of..more like "have been guiding it along and will continue to do so" | 20:28 |
| ayoung | stevemar, no such thing as a freebie | 20:28 |
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| stevemar | ayoung: minimal effort then? | 20:29 |
| stevemar | :) | 20:29 |
| ayoung | stevemar, we are way past minimal effort on Federation | 20:29 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, but we shoud get ABFAB | 20:29 |
| ayoung | and SAML | 20:29 |
| stevemar | ayoung: what about openID? | 20:30 |
| ayoung | stevemar, I would think that instead of doing Federated as single API extension, we should instead make sure that the Federated protocols like ABFAB and SAML use the same terminology when doing things like mulitple round trips | 20:30 |
| * stevemar nods | 20:30 | |
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| ayoung | stevemar, openid probably also should be considered a federation protocol. | 20:31 |
| ayoung | and thus a separate identity backend | 20:31 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, what will get interesting is if we need to support different protocols for a single Identity Provider, but I don't think we are there yet | 20:31 |
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| lifeless | jeblair: how does one query the # of atc's for a project? | 20:51 |
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| jeblair | lifeless: i use something like https://github.com/jeblair/election/blob/master/atc-email-stats.py but you'll need to remove the email bits | 20:53 |
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| lifeless | jeblair: I run that locally? | 20:55 |
| lifeless | ah yes, looks like | 20:55 |
| lifeless | jeblair: thanks | 20:55 |
| creiht | jeblair: ping | 20:55 |
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| jeblair | creiht: pong | 20:55 |
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| creiht | jeblair: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44081/ | 20:55 |
| creiht | I was just checking the status, and half the jobs got canceled? | 20:55 |
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| creiht | what causes them to be canceled? | 20:56 |
| jeblair | creiht: yes, a change ahead of it in the queue has failed so it will be retested; it hasn't reported that yet, it's not final. | 20:57 |
| creiht | hrm | 20:57 |
| creiht | ok | 20:57 |
| jeblair | creiht: if nothing else fails, it will become the head of the queue in 5 minutes | 20:57 |
| creiht | ok thx | 20:58 |
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| clarkb | clayg: re https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1217288 does the trouble seem to be with very new setuptools? eg version 1.1? | 23:57 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1217288 in swift "Swift installation crashes" [High,Confirmed] | 23:57 |
| clarkb | clayg: I think we expect really old setuptools to not work, but new setuptools should so that is a fun bug if new setupttols is broken too | 23:57 |
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