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| stevemar | morganfainberg: yo | 01:03 |
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| morganfainberg | stevemar: hey how goes | 01:03 |
| stevemar | morganfainberg: not bad, had a random q | 01:04 |
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| morganfainberg | stevemar: have a random answer then | 01:04 |
| stevemar | do you do anything special to view diffs between patch sets? | 01:04 |
| stevemar | rather, is there a way | 01:04 |
| morganfainberg | you can do it w/ git review or on the webpage. | 01:04 |
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| stevemar | lies | 01:05 |
| stevemar | how | 01:05 |
| morganfainberg | but be warned, you get all the delta (all rebase changes as well) | 01:05 |
| morganfainberg | so | 01:05 |
| stevemar | hmm | 01:05 |
| morganfainberg | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40176/10/keystoneclient/access.py | 01:05 |
| morganfainberg | erm. | 01:05 |
| morganfainberg | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40176/8..10/keystoneclient/access.py | 01:05 |
| morganfainberg | there | 01:06 |
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| morganfainberg | that should show you the base patchset of 8, and 10 as the "new" | 01:06 |
| clarkb | morganfainberg: stevemar see git review -m for slightly nicer diffing | 01:06 |
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| morganfainberg | clarkb: beat me to it | 01:06 |
| stevemar | so 'old'..'new' | 01:07 |
| morganfainberg | the git review -m is much nicer | 01:07 |
| stevemar | the web page isn't as helpful | 01:07 |
| stevemar | yeah, i'll try that, thanks clarkb | 01:07 |
| clarkb | stevemar: morganfainberg the easy way to do it through the web ui is to change the base patchset on the change page | 01:08 |
| clarkb | stevemar: morganfainberg then clicking on any of the files gives you that diff | 01:08 |
| morganfainberg | clarkb: oh right there is that dropdown. i'm used to a slightly newer gerrit that lets you click links at the top of each file view. | 01:08 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar: but in short, i use a number of tools, if there has been a big rebase, i'll open two windows and compare :P | 01:09 |
| stevemar | clarkb: ahhhh, that's exactly what i was looking for | 01:09 |
| stevemar | nice drop down | 01:09 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar: it still shows _all_ delta, including changes picked up by rebases. | 01:09 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar: just be aware | 01:10 |
| stevemar | ahh, so it might not even by the authors changes | 01:10 |
| morganfainberg | yep. | 01:10 |
| morganfainberg | it's useful, | 01:10 |
| morganfainberg | still | 01:11 |
| stevemar | morganfainberg: clarkb: thanks guys | 01:11 |
| stevemar | it's been bugging me a while is all :) | 01:11 |
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| clarkb | stevemar: git review -m does it best to show you the actual diff | 01:11 |
| clarkb | stevemar: by rebasing one side of the diff if necessary | 01:11 |
| fabio_ | morganfainberg: hi, I have completed the changes you asked for #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33118/ | 01:12 |
| stevemar | fabio_, i'm looking at your changes now too :O | 01:12 |
| fabio_ | morganfainberg: I did some refactoring too, since now while I am building the list of endpoints I have to clean the hanging ones | 01:12 |
| morganfainberg | fabio_: cool. i'll look at it shortly here. | 01:12 |
| fabio_ | stevemar, morganfainberg: thanks in advance | 01:13 |
| morganfainberg | fabio_: i think you're closing in on the home stretch here, just had to solve the actual breakage issues :) | 01:13 |
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| morganfainberg | fabio_: and nice work on the quick turn-arounds for new changesets. | 01:14 |
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| fabio_ | morganfainberg: jenkins had issues, but now is all well +1 | 01:16 |
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| morganfainberg | fabio_: yeah, jenkins can be temperamental at times. | 01:16 |
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| fabio_ | morganfainberg: how it is looking? | 04:01 |
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| morganfainberg | fabio_: i'm actually running into an issue with my local computer, so having to deal with that first (last few hours). | 04:02 |
| morganfainberg | fabio_: once i'm done solving that i'll be back to code review. | 04:02 |
| morganfainberg | fabio_: though, cursory glance looks good. | 04:02 |
| fabio_ | morganfainberg: no problem, I'll check later on. Thanks | 04:03 |
| morganfainberg | fabio_: np. | 04:03 |
| morganfainberg | fabio_: oh. hah, the issue seems to be a bug in the IDE i'm using *facepalm* I should ahve stopped pounding my head against the wall an hour or two ago by checking a different file | 04:04 |
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| sridevi | Hi, could someone tell me if the nova plugins is a separate repository? | 06:37 |
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| ljjjustin | Hi, could someone tell me how to upgrade nova database from essex to grizzly? | 06:48 |
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| sgran | nova-manage db sync, presumably | 07:02 |
| sgran | hopefully you've take backups and so on first | 07:02 |
| sgran | you probably want to go read some upgrade docs as well | 07:02 |
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| alexxu | aditirav, ping | 07:11 |
| aditirav | alexxu: hi | 07:11 |
| alexxu | aditirav, looks like detail call already was the mean 'detailed' | 07:13 |
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| alexxu | aditirav, how about we only show extra_specs for detail call? | 07:14 |
| alexxu | aditirav, for remove FlavorExtraSpecsController how about wating for chris's suggestion, I already call him, he will look at that tonight :) | 07:14 |
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| aditirav | alexxu: the question is whether extra_specs is really a part of flavors. Shouldn't it be optional to either include them or not? | 07:16 |
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| alexxu | aditirav, emm, you are right, that is your bp proposed, if we think put extra_specs as part of flavors can save api call, I think make it only one way to access extra_specs is enough | 07:19 |
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| alexxu | aditirav, if user won't to get extra_specs, user can just call show. otherwise, user can call detail. does make sense? | 07:20 |
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| aditirav | alexxu: yes, the detailed call could include extra_specs. Either always include them, or keep it flag based. | 07:33 |
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| alexxu | aditirav, show or detail, it already an optional for user | 07:34 |
| aditirav | alexu makes sense | 07:35 |
| alexxu | aditirav, don't hurry to update yet, wait for chris's suggestion :) | 07:35 |
| aditirav | alexu: I feel we shouldn't include the extra_specs functionality as a part of the flavors API. let's see what chris has to say | 07:35 |
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| alexxu | aditirav, yeah, it's fine, just waiting for other review :) | 07:36 |
| aditirav | alexu: cool thanks :) | 07:36 |
| alexxu | aditirav, np | 07:37 |
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| romcheg1 | henrynash: Hi, are you around? | 09:59 |
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| henrynash | romcheg1: hi | 10:02 |
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| romcheg | henrynash: Sorry for the delay. | 11:20 |
| romcheg | I noticed, that v3 API does not provide /tokens route | 11:20 |
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| romcheg | That causes the client to fail with 404 when using v3 | 11:21 |
| romcheg | henrynash: Is that a problem with the client or with the service? | 11:22 |
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| romcheg | As I see there is a TODO left by ayoung there: | 11:23 |
| romcheg | # TODO(ayoung): put token routes here | 11:23 |
| romcheg | return wsgi.ComposingRouter(mapper, v3routers) | 11:23 |
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| henrynash | romcheg: hi…let me take a look | 11:35 |
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| henrynash | romcheg: in v3 /tokens is replaced with /auth/tokens | 11:38 |
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| ekarlso- | dhellmann: you here _ | 11:41 |
| ekarlso- | would it be possible to move stevedore to stackforge ? | 11:41 |
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| romcheg | the client doesn't seem to know about that change: http://paste.openstack.org/show/45195/ | 11:41 |
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| romcheg | henrynash: I set OS_AUTH_URL=http://127.0.0.1:35357/v3 and tried to list users. So that's possibly a bug, isn't it? | 11:42 |
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| henrynash | romcheg: which client? | 11:43 |
| romcheg | python-openstackclient | 11:43 |
| romcheg | whoops | 11:43 |
| romcheg | python-keystoneclient | 11:43 |
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| henrynash | so, yes, I think this is a bug (someone else was talking about it), while we don't support the v3 apis in keystone-client for things like Get Users, I think you should be able to authenticate via v3 and then use a v3 api to list the users (at least that's what I thought...._ | 11:46 |
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| henrynash | sorry… i meant user a v2 api to list the users (at least that's what I thought...) | 11:47 |
| romcheg | I actually need to use authtoken_middleware in another project, so I think there might be a problem with changing the auth_url | 11:49 |
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| romcheg | As far as I understand authtoken_middleware cannot use v3 as well, right? | 11:50 |
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| saurabh | Hi . Have a problem with l3-agent. Continously getting the following error on l3-agent log http://pastebin.com/fQV9j5CK | 13:39 |
| saurabh | Also, I'm seeing that the 'routerroutes' table in quantum database is empty | 13:40 |
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| saurabh | any ideas? | 13:41 |
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| insanida1e | saurabh: sorry. no idea. are you a plugin developer ? | 13:42 |
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| saurabh | insanida1e: yes | 13:46 |
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| insanidade | saurabh: hmm. ok. I'm starting to develop my first plugin. still trying to understando how to do it. Is there any 'cookbook' that you might know ? | 13:47 |
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| saurabh | just follow the already available plugins | 13:48 |
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| saurabh | dont know of any cookbook | 13:49 |
| mhu | Hello, I have a problem when pushing a patch to keystone : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40444/ the jenkins tests don't pass due to a problem with opening the database file. The tests pass on my local copy, any hints about what could cause this ? | 13:49 |
| insanidade | saurabh: ok. that's what I'm doing. I'm looking at the base class for neutron plugins and trying to understand from others. | 13:49 |
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| insanidade | quick question here (from a noob openstack developer): in terms of speech, is there any difference between "develop an extension" and "develop a plugin" for opnestack ? | 14:25 |
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| annegentle | insanidade: yes. an extension is an extra action for a REST API. A plugin is a backend implementation that plugs into the greater project architecture. | 14:26 |
| insanidade | I mean: if I want to write code so that neutron is able to interact with a given device, am I trying to develop a plugin or an extension? | 14:27 |
| insanidade | annegentle: hmmm. I see. | 14:27 |
| insanidade | annegentle: so, in my example, I want to create a plugin, right ? | 14:27 |
| annegentle | insanidade: plugin, yep | 14:27 |
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| insanidade | annegentle: ok. I'm a python developer but have never developed an Openstack plugin. Still trying to learn how to do it. I need a plugin for a given switching technology for which there's no plugin available so far. | 14:29 |
| insanidade | hope I figure it out and start contributing. | 14:29 |
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| insanidade | thanks for clarifying, annegentle. | 14:30 |
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| annegentle | insanidade: ok, hopefully you've found https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NeutronDevelopment#Developing_a_Neutron_Plugin | 14:30 |
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| insanidade | annegentle: yep. that's my starting point :) | 14:30 |
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| insanidade | one more question: in my devstack installation, I don't have the exact file mentioned in the plugin development guide (neutron/neutron_plugin_base.py), but I have a similar one (neutron/neutron_plugin_base_v2.py). Is that the correct one ? | 14:38 |
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| shadower | ttx: ping | 14:51 |
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| ttx | shadower: pong | 14:53 |
| shadower | ttx: the Tuskar team would like to run PTL elections, would you help us facilitate that? Or point to someone who could... | 14:53 |
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| ttx | shadower: I'll be on and off for the next days (traveling back home) so maybe not the best person to ask | 14:54 |
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| ttx | shadower: I'd point you to the infra team but they are a bit busy those days | 14:54 |
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| ttx | shadower: the trick is to compile the list of authors, and feed that to CIVS | 14:54 |
| ttx | shadower: otherwise it's pretty basic | 14:55 |
| shadower | ttx: right. We can do it ourselves, but I thought it better if were done by someone outside | 14:55 |
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| ttx | shadower: I can do that, starting Monday next week :/ | 14:56 |
| ttx | shadower: maybe anteaya would be interested in helping | 14:56 |
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| shadower | ttx: thanks, I'll ask the folks in #tuskar but I think next week is fine | 14:56 |
| ttx | shadower: I know she likes election stuff :) | 14:56 |
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| anteaya | ttx ha ha ha | 14:57 |
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| anteaya | shadower: I can help if you want, never run one before but I can learn | 14:57 |
| anteaya | shadower: let me know what #tuskar decides | 14:58 |
| shadower | anteaya: if you don't mind, that would be fantastic | 14:58 |
| anteaya | shadower: sure, let me figure out what tools I need to use and what I need from you, I think the list of nominees is a given - also the timeframe for voting | 14:58 |
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| anteaya | hold off on the mailing list of eligible voters until I learn where that needs to go | 14:59 |
| anteaya | ttx any documentation on how to run an election? | 14:59 |
| shadower | anteaya: thanks | 14:59 |
| anteaya | np | 15:00 |
| ttx | anteaya: err, not really | 15:00 |
| * ttx on call | 15:00 | |
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| anteaya | okay, let me fumble around and see what I can find | 15:00 |
| ttx | anteaya: there are pages for past elections | 15:00 |
| ttx | but more for candidates/voters than for organizers | 15:00 |
| anteaya | ttx okay, I will start there, it might give me a thread to start pulling on | 15:01 |
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| nachi | keystone-folks,gyee: Please review generic signature auth plugin when you get a chance https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40036/ | 16:07 |
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| BobBall | Anyone know how to purge a service? nova-manage service list shows a bunch of services set up during testing (so clearly hanging around in the DB) - What's the best way to remove them? | 16:14 |
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| gyee | henrynash, around? | 16:20 |
| henrynash | gyee: hi | 16:20 |
| gyee | can you please update the doc for this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38308 | 16:20 |
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| gyee | like what does user need to do to use the new policy.json file | 16:21 |
| henrynash | gyee: would love to….now which doc is the question | 16:21 |
| gyee | maybe configuration.rst? | 16:21 |
| gyee | changes looks good btw, just need to doc it | 16:21 |
| henrynash | gyee: so we actually document the current polci rules anywhere? | 16:21 |
| henrynash | gyee (thx) | 16:22 |
| gyee | I would imagine they need to bootstrap it with the admin domain | 16:22 |
| henrynash | gyee: or the admin token | 16:22 |
| gyee | right, just add a paragraph in configuration.rst and I think we are good to go | 16:22 |
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| henrynash | gyee: ok, I'll get right on it | 16:23 |
| gyee | henrynash, I like the concept of admin domain, much cleaner deployment-wise | 16:23 |
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| henrynash | gyee; agreed | 16:24 |
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| boris-42 | jaypipes hi | 16:27 |
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| anteaya | ruhe mattf hello | 16:30 |
| mattf | anteaya, here? | 16:30 |
| anteaya | yes | 16:30 |
| mattf | hello | 16:30 |
| mattf | what's up? | 16:30 |
| anteaya | so I have been asked to officiate at the Tuskar PTL election and I have have never set up an election before | 16:30 |
| anteaya | so I am just reading up on election process and civs | 16:31 |
| mattf | ahh, where are you so far with it? | 16:31 |
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| anteaya | any advice? | 16:31 |
| jaypipes | boris-42: hi! :) just replied to your email on Alembic/SA-Migrate :) | 16:31 |
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| boris-42 | jaypipes yes | 16:31 |
| mattf | i captured how we did it in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Savanna/PTL | 16:31 |
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| anteaya | just figuring out how to scrape git log of email addresses for eligible voters | 16:31 |
| boris-42 | jaypipes we should split theory and praxis=) | 16:31 |
| anteaya | ah thank you mattf, I'll read it | 16:31 |
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| anteaya | that was what I was looking for | 16:32 |
| boris-42 | jaypipes we are not able to get rid of sqlalchemy-migrate in the way that you explained | 16:32 |
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| boris-42 | jaypipes because of CI, because of bugs in sqlalchemy-migraet and so on | 16:32 |
| mattf | anteaya, it should cover all the important bits. the one change i'd make if doing it again is to have candidates announce themselves on the openstack-dev list instead of in the weekly meeting | 16:32 |
| boris-42 | jaypipes also we should get rid from "init migration" | 16:32 |
| jaypipes | boris-42: can you explain futher pls? | 16:32 |
| boris-42 | jaypipes about why we shouldn't touch in that way migrations? | 16:32 |
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| anteaya | mattf okay thanks I can pass that note onto shadower | 16:33 |
| jaypipes | boris-42: no, about "because of CI and bugs in sa-migrate and so on" :) | 16:33 |
| mattf | anteaya, for savanna there was only one candidate. he happened to be our existing dictator. i ran the vote anyway to let "None" challenge him -- give legitimacy to his dictatorship | 16:33 |
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| mattf | turns out 70% of the electorate voted and all voted for him | 16:33 |
| boris-42 | jaypipes there is a billions of bugs in sqalchemy-migrate | 16:33 |
| boris-42 | jaypipes and our models and migrations create different DBs schemas! | 16:33 |
| anteaya | mattf: a legitimate dictator is the best kind of dictator | 16:33 |
| anteaya | nice | 16:34 |
| mattf | anteaya, the civs election is trivial to setup too | 16:34 |
| anteaya | so I am seeing | 16:34 |
| boris-42 | jaypipes so you are not able even to create DB using schema | 16:34 |
| mattf | popularly elected dictator! | 16:34 |
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| anteaya | ha ha ha | 16:34 |
| boris-42 | jaypipes it is much more complex task that it can look like | 16:34 |
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| boris-42 | jaypipes could we go in private chat? | 16:34 |
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| mattf | anteaya, we did the whole thing over a few weeks to make sure the existing community got to influence the process | 16:35 |
| anteaya | fair enough | 16:35 |
| mattf | i guess it's mostly captured on the wiki, and pretty brief | 16:35 |
| mattf | anteaya, i'll hangout here if you've any questions | 16:35 |
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| anteaya | mattf thanks, right now I am just figuring out how to scrape the git log to get the email list | 16:36 |
| mattf | do you maintain AUTHORS files? | 16:36 |
| anteaya | shadower is actually on the tusker project, I am the neutral party | 16:37 |
| anteaya | mattf good question, I should look | 16:37 |
| mattf | ahh, gotcha. we did try to make sure our dictator did not drive the election, but i'm on the project so i'm not entirely neutral 3rd party | 16:37 |
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| anteaya | mattf right, but you are raising good points for shadower to consider | 16:40 |
| anteaya | mattf some projects have .mailmap files which would do | 16:40 |
| anteaya | so far I haven't seen any projects with an AUTHORS file | 16:40 |
| anteaya | and tusker has neither, but I could propose one | 16:41 |
| mattf | also fyi - http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-August/013447.html | 16:41 |
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| mattf | also - https://etherpad.openstack.org/savanna-ptl-election-proposal | 16:42 |
| mattf | that pad line 37 has how we did the electorate | 16:42 |
| mattf | i know there was some simple git line you could run | 16:42 |
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| mattf | probably --authors --since, but i'd have to cons it up manually atm | 16:42 |
| anteaya | thank you | 16:42 |
| anteaya | let me play with that but that helps a lot | 16:43 |
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| anteaya | and I'll give the ml and etherpad links to shadower so they can decide on their format | 16:43 |
| mattf | k | 16:43 |
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| anteaya | mattk is the AUTHORS file generated? I found the savanna one | 16:44 |
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| mattf | anteaya, it's generated on commit and required by our jenkins | 16:46 |
| anteaya | ah okay | 16:46 |
| anteaya | I'll look at your jenkins job | 16:46 |
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| mattf | moment, i'll cons up a git line for you | 16:47 |
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| mattf | $ git log --pretty=%ae --since '1 year ago' | sort -u | 16:48 |
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| mattf | anteaya, rty ^^ | 16:48 |
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| anteaya | mattf thanks | 16:49 |
| mattf | you may have to tidy it a bit. for instance, we have a few people listed with different email addresses | 16:49 |
| anteaya | I will see what I come up with | 16:49 |
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| anteaya | the part I was missing was =%ae | 16:49 |
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| anteaya | I kept trying -e which failed | 16:50 |
| * mattf <3 man git-log | 16:50 | |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 16:50 |
| anteaya | I hadn't gotten deep enough yet obviously | 16:50 |
| anteaya | thanks | 16:50 |
| mattf | np | 16:50 |
| anteaya | that is awesome | 16:51 |
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| insanidade | would anyone give a quick help on developing a plugin? I'm trying to create my first one. a "hello world" thing would be ok by now. Something that would just create a file in a folder. I'd like to understand the flow related to a plugin being activated. From that point, I could understand what source files I have to touch and what I don't. | 17:12 |
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| insanidade | I've already found the sources, some plugin examples and started studying their codes. I believe there's some code I'll never have to change when developing a plugin that does not require extensions in the API. | 17:14 |
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| insanidade | I'd like to know what I have to write in order to have a very basic plugin. | 17:14 |
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| jog0 | dtroyer: ping | 17:41 |
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| odyssey4me | It would appear that I have missing tables in the cinder db after an upgrade from folsom to grizzly. I can see in https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/stable/grizzly/cinder/db/sqlalchemy/migrate_repo/versions/001_cinder_init.py#L209 that iscsi_targets should exist in the cinder db, but it's not there. Can anyone help figure this out? | 17:52 |
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| odyssey4me | and yes, before you ask - I've double-checked that my db user and password are correct, and I've re-run 'cinder db sync' a few times, even with --debug and --verbose... no errors | 17:54 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, meeting? | 18:04 |
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| hartsocks | dtroyer: ping | 18:45 |
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| hartsocks | Hi folks. I have a problem with my devstack. Anyone around to chat about it? | 18:46 |
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| hartsocks | + devstack/tools/create_userrc.sh -PA --target-dir ~/devstack/accrc | 18:47 |
| hartsocks | publicURL endpoint for s3 not found. | 18:47 |
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| hartsocks | ^^ that's the problem. Any idea what it means? | 18:47 |
| uvirtbot | hartsocks: Error: "^" is not a valid command. | 18:48 |
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| dtroyer | jog0, hartsocks: here now, form a queue to the left... | 18:59 |
| hartsocks | dtroyer: so … publicURL endpoint for s3 not found. | 18:59 |
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| hartsocks | dtroyer: seen that before? | 19:00 |
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| dtroyer | hartsocks: context? it sounds like a service catalog isn't configured for object store | 19:00 |
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| hartsocks | This is on devstack. | 19:01 |
| hartsocks | From ./stack.sh | 19:01 |
| hartsocks | with these services... | 19:01 |
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| hartsocks | ENABLED_SERVICES=g-api,g-reg,key,n-api,n-crt,n-cpu,n-net,n-cond,n-sch,rabbit,mysql | 19:01 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, are you going to represent at the OS release meting tonight, or is it dolphm ...or do you need me to? | 19:02 |
| hartsocks | devstack hangs and doesn't progress. | 19:02 |
| henrynash | ayoung: so I can do it….although Dolphm had not asked me to…. | 19:02 |
| dtroyer | hartsocks: there's no swift in that list so that is expected, question is why is it trying? | 19:03 |
| henrynash | ayoung: will he still be out of pocket? | 19:03 |
| dtroyer | hartsocks: where in the script is this happening? | 19:03 |
| hartsocks | dtroyer: this is ./stack.sh from my ubuntu development environment. | 19:03 |
| hartsocks | dtroyer: happens with a clean devstack or with the old one. | 19:03 |
| hartsocks | dtroyer: same localrc on both | 19:04 |
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| dtroyer | hartsocks: where in stack.sh? can you paste stack.sh.log to paste.openstack.org? | 19:05 |
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| hartsocks | sure. | 19:06 |
| hartsocks | 1 sec | 19:06 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung / gyee: i have a 1300 (Pacific) meeting, but i'll be bat aroung 1400, talk caching then? | 19:07 |
| morganfainberg | or later, if that works. | 19:08 |
| morganfainberg | s/bat/back | 19:08 |
| hartsocks | dtroyer: running commands again and using tee to catch output... | 19:08 |
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| dtroyer | hartsocks: set LOGFILE in localrc and it does that for you: LOGFILE=$DEST/logs/stack.sh.log | 19:10 |
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| hartsocks | thanks | 19:10 |
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| hartsocks | dtroyer: interesting instead of getting stuck at "publicURL endpoint for s3 not found." this time, it moved on... | 19:12 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, I'm OK with caching as is. 1300 is 1600 my time...I'm in meeting | 19:12 |
| ayoung | dolphm, let henrynash know if you need him to cover the release meeting | 19:13 |
| annegentle | dumb question but I'm going for it. Why do I get a pbr version conflict (needs 0.5.20 or higher, gets 0.5.18) when installing dependencies for nova? Do other people just change requirements.txt and move on? | 19:14 |
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| hartsocks | dtroyer: unless there's a reason "publicURL endpoint for s3 not found." shouldn't show up, my problem just went away. | 19:14 |
| hartsocks | dtroyer: here's my log anyway: http://paste.openstack.org/show/45233/ | 19:15 |
| gyee | morganfainberg, sounds good | 19:15 |
| hartsocks | dtroyer: never mind… I swear it's there.... | 19:17 |
| henrynash | ayuong: I want to get a better handle on your worries on the risk of what's in the filtering patch right breaking something (or allowing some attack etc.) | 19:17 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: I want to get a better handle on your worries on the risk of what's in the filtering patch right breaking something (or allowing some attack etc.) | 19:17 |
| dtroyer | hartsocks: it would still be helpful to know where in stack.sh this happens. It isn't anything I recall seeing before | 19:18 |
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| hartsocks | dtroyer: proof http://i.imgur.com/20UvpA3.png | 19:18 |
| henrynash | ayoung: ignore the lack of LDAP driver-level filtering for now…what are the risks you see | 19:18 |
| hartsocks | dtroyer: until this run, the stack.sh script was hanging several tens of seconds there. | 19:19 |
| insanidade | is this the current api guide or am I using an outdated version ? http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-network/1.0/content/ | 19:20 |
| insanidade | I mean "networking api guide" | 19:20 |
| clarkb | annegentle: do you have pbr 0.5.18 installed globally? pip freeze should tell you | 19:20 |
| dtroyer | hartsocks: <sigh> create_userrc.sh is something I don't use and haven't really studied. it might be trying to set up creds for euca2ools... | 19:20 |
| annegentle | insanidade: that's the latest | 19:20 |
| annegentle | insanidade: there are bugs against it | 19:21 |
| clarkb | annegentle: you might also try pip installing instead of `python setup.py install` if that is how you are attempting to install today | 19:21 |
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| annegentle | insanidade: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-site/+bugs/?field.tag=netconn-api | 19:21 |
| annegentle | clarkb: so what I did was sudo pip install --upgrade pbr and now it's merrily toxing. I think. | 19:21 |
| ayoung | henrynash, sql injection attacks | 19:21 |
| annegentle | clarkb: which gave me 0.5.21 | 19:21 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: OK, understand that concern | 19:22 |
| clarkb | annegentle: ok that implies you had the older version globally and the site-packages = true in tox.ini picked it up | 19:22 |
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| annegentle | clarkb: ah ok. So what's setting that global versioN? | 19:22 |
| clarkb | annegentle: something you have installed globally that depends on pbr | 19:22 |
| * annegentle is diving into dependincies and hitting her forehead sometimes | 19:22 | |
| annegentle | clarkb: ohhh. could be anything... | 19:23 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: you mean something like: GET /users"name=<some inserted sql statements> | 19:23 |
| henrynash | sorry, GET /users?name=<some inserted sql statements> | 19:23 |
| ayoung | henrynash, little Bobby Tables.... | 19:23 |
| clarkb | annegentle: yeah one of the python clients for example | 19:23 |
| gyee | henrynash, I think we are doing param binding | 19:23 |
| hartsocks | dtroyer: hm… in this context S3 doesn't appear to have anything to do with amazon. It points to networking issues. | 19:23 |
| annegentle | clarkb: ok got it, thanks | 19:23 |
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| insanidade | annegentle: should I consider quantum api guide 1.0 for building plugins ? | 19:25 |
| ayoung | henrynash, I'm also concerned that Filtering and caching are changing things at the same level, and we will end up with some really wonky behavior | 19:25 |
| ayoung | henrynash, of the two, I would say that filtering is more reviewed and ready to go | 19:26 |
| henrynash | ayoung: what if we made it configurable as to whether the driver executes the filtering? | 19:26 |
| ayoung | I like to break one thing at a time | 19:26 |
| henrynash | :-) | 19:26 |
| dtroyer | hartsocks: here is the command generating the error: keystone endpoint-get --service s3 | 19:26 |
| henrynash | ayoung: so it could be turned off in the field if some issue came up? | 19:27 |
| ayoung | henrynash, I'd prefer to wait on filtering until we have a whole solution, then get it in at the beginning of Icehouse. It feels like the right approach. | 19:27 |
| ayoung | henrynash, no | 19:27 |
| henrynash | ayoung: …in which case the controller would just of the filtering as of now | 19:27 |
| ayoung | it still is a CVE at that point | 19:27 |
| dtroyer | hartsocks: that script should skip that when swift s3 is not enabled as there is no s3 service in the service catalog | 19:27 |
| ayoung | we can't just reach into people's config and disable it | 19:27 |
| henrynash | CVE? | 19:27 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, yep, the bane of ttx 's existence...and dolphm 's....and mine and yours | 19:28 |
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| annegentle | insanidade: Yes there isn't another. | 19:29 |
| annegentle | insanidade: another API doc | 19:29 |
| ayoung | henrynash, the thing is, filtering will go in with the defaults turned on. And few people will touch it. So if there is aproblem, it will stay hidden for a while. If we do it at the start of Icehouse, the impace is just in unreleased code. If we put it into Havana, the impace is on GA code. | 19:29 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: understand the balance, its just it was agreed to target this for H3 all along - it was purposely left till then since it didn't change the API and people wanted the API-changing-patches in H2 | 19:31 |
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| garyk | dev | 19:32 |
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| insanidade | thanks, annegentle. I'm still confused with docs and requirements to start coding a plugin. I understand that my questions are still very basic. | 19:33 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, I understand. You've done some kickass things this release so far, and I think those were higher priority. This one is important, but only in conjunction with changes elsewhere. Tell you what, get the ACK/NACK from the Horizon team on it | 19:34 |
| annegentle | insanidade: no worries, I'm glad you're asking -- you can ask the PTL and other coders directly in #openstack-neutron. I coordinate the docs so I respond to doc seekers. | 19:34 |
| ayoung | henrynash, if they say it is essential, good to go | 19:34 |
| insanidade | annegentle: didn't know about that channel. thanks. | 19:35 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: Ok, that's fair….I actually agree stingily with listening to the Horizon team, they know more than most on what is needed to be effective | 19:35 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: I am already putting great weight on their views on the pagination | 19:35 |
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| gyee | ayoung, have time for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33118/? | 19:37 |
| ayoung | gyee, looking at endpoint filterin now | 19:37 |
| ayoung | gyee, why is the class name not CamelCase? | 19:38 |
| ayoung | HowDidItGetSoFarInTheReviewProcessWithoutThatBeingAddressed? | 19:38 |
| gyee | ayoung, blame fabio :) | 19:38 |
| morganfainberg | damn i missed that one =/ | 19:38 |
| gyee | wait, which class? | 19:38 |
| morganfainberg | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33118/32/keystone/contrib/endpoint_filter/backends/catalog_sql.py | 19:39 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, yeah | 19:39 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, any reason to break with the coding standards there? | 19:39 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung no | 19:39 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, fix it an ping me | 19:40 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: k. sec. | 19:40 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, actually, that is fabio 's code | 19:40 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: oh haha, wait was thinking a different change | 19:40 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, let him do it...or gyee | 19:40 |
| morganfainberg | crossed things in my mind man | 19:40 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, looking at caching | 19:40 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: thanks | 19:41 |
| gyee | ayoung, fabio's definitely buying me coffee today | 19:41 |
| gyee | lemme fix | 19:41 |
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| fabiog | I have a fix | 19:41 |
| fabiog | just a sec | 19:41 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, so default on cache is to not cache, right? | 19:42 |
| ayoung | it must be enabled? | 19:42 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: yes. | 19:42 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: and you need to change the backend as well. to prevent accidental use of the in-memory backend | 19:42 |
| gyee | fabiog, I need to run, be back in an hour | 19:42 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, OK, I can ACK it, then | 19:42 |
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| morganfainberg | to use caching, it's meant to be very deliberate, so people don't shoot them selves for useing the defaults | 19:43 |
| fabiog | gyee: running tests and post new patch asap | 19:43 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, so, to be pedantic, it is a proxy architecture, where caching is one form of Proxy. The Debug backend shows that clearly. | 19:44 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, but...looks good | 19:44 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: hehe, yes you are correct in that. | 19:45 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: i also plan on writing a more in-depth "how to" caching depending on the different caching options (post FF) | 19:45 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, +2 approved | 19:46 |
| morganfainberg | the other big one is: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43608/ | 19:46 |
| morganfainberg | the one we talked about token validations. | 19:46 |
| morganfainberg | that one should make the manager aware of invalid/expired/revoked tokens when you do validate/check on them | 19:47 |
| morganfainberg | the rest of the caching chain is just leveraging the keystone.common.cache code. | 19:47 |
| ayoung | henrynash, just rechecked the protection review | 19:48 |
| henrynash | ayoung: thx | 19:49 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, so, lets keep the logic in the provider | 19:51 |
| fabiog | ayoung, morganfainberg and stevemar: patch 33 has the name updated | 19:52 |
| ayoung | the expiration check should still be in the provider, just not in the driver | 19:52 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, ah, you moved it up...cool | 19:52 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: :) | 19:52 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: got to run to a meeting, let me know if you see anything problematic, i'll get it fixed up. | 19:53 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, I don't think that is quite right | 19:53 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: ? | 19:53 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, OK...expect a tweak when you get back | 19:53 |
| morganfainberg | sure. | 19:53 |
| lifeless | russellb: hi! your review stats thing; I have some definitional questions; should I nag you or ask where the code is :) | 19:54 |
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| lifeless | russellb: things like - is the count 'number of patches the reviewer has participated in review on' or 'number of times they clicked 'review' | 19:54 |
| stevemar | fabiog: nice, it looks awesome | 19:54 |
| lifeless | russellb: and 'what projects are enrolled under tripleo'? | 19:54 |
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| russellb | lifeless: openstack-infra/reviewstats.git | 19:55 |
| russellb | lifeless: projects/tripleo.json (presumably) | 19:55 |
| dragondm | anyone have a moment to eyeball a change for openstack/requirements ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43503/ ? | 19:55 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: back in an hour or so. | 19:55 |
| russellb | lifeless: should be the number of times they clicked review (but pretty sure it doesn't count comments / +0 votes) | 19:56 |
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| lifeless | russellb: ah; so yeah, we moved to openstack recently .... | 19:57 |
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| lifeless | russellb: is there a linter for this? | 19:58 |
| russellb | lifeless: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/42511/ | 19:58 |
| russellb | no tests or anything, heh | 19:58 |
| russellb | would be nice though | 19:58 |
| lifeless | ok, I just did that same change myself locally | 19:58 |
| lifeless | I will copy the change Id down and push it | 19:58 |
| russellb | cool sounds good | 19:59 |
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| lifeless | russellb: will the system rescan everything automatically? | 20:00 |
| russellb | when i merge it? it'll be applied the next time it's scheduled to run | 20:01 |
| russellb | or i can go kick it | 20:01 |
| russellb | i'm happy to do so | 20:01 |
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| soren | lifeless, ttx, SpamapS: re discussion in #o-meeting: Explain again why MongoDB is so scary? | 20:50 |
| lifeless | soren: AGPL | 20:50 |
| SpamapS | soren: AGPL terrifies lawyers. | 20:50 |
| soren | Apply cluebat? | 20:50 |
| lifeless | soren: they aren't wrong, sadly. | 20:50 |
| soren | lifeless: How so? | 20:51 |
| SpamapS | In any legal matter there is a risk factor, it is just another form of security/vulnerability... | 20:51 |
| lifeless | soren: what courts interpret, and what the drafter of the license intended are often not the same. | 20:51 |
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| SpamapS | And many lawyer and organizations have a low tolerance for risk. AGPL carries a moderate amount of risk.. hence.. problems. | 20:51 |
| lifeless | soren: thats a valid risk, until AGPL has some cases behind it; same thing happened with GPL adoption. | 20:51 |
| soren | The risk being that you might have to publish a patch you write? | 20:51 |
| lifeless | soren: no | 20:51 |
| SpamapS | the risk is that you will have to publish _everything_ | 20:52 |
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| lifeless | soren: for instance, what if the court interpret linking broadly for web services, since AGPL is aimed at services. | 20:52 |
| lifeless | soren: or what if the GPL3 Patent clauses get tied into the AGPL evaluation | 20:53 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: thank you for handling the meeting earlier! | 20:53 |
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| lifeless | soren: it could be very very messy, and noone wants to be the test case | 20:53 |
| dolphm | henrynash: i wasn't expecting to be absent | 20:53 |
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| lifeless | soren: it being an asymmetric license and generally used on open-core projects is a separate concern the more die-hard folk like me have :) | 20:54 |
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| soren | I guess I need to re-read the AGPL. | 20:56 |
| SpamapS | It is just vague enough that it makes lawyers see "testing the waters" as "dipping your toe in a vat of boiling acid" | 20:57 |
| soren | I don't even see where it talks about linked code. | 20:57 |
| SpamapS | And yeah, that trepidation then puts the users in a vulnerable place, requiring them to consider being the test case, or buying a license. | 20:57 |
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| russellb | lifeless: looks like it's updated now btw - http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-30.txt | 21:00 |
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| lifeless | russellb: thanks! | 21:03 |
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| SpamapS | soren: its not so much about linking, it is about section 13 "if you modify the Program, your modified version must prominently offer all users interacting with it remotely through a computer network (if your version supports such interaction) an opportunity to receive the Corresponding Source of your version by providing access to the Corresponding Source from a network server at no charge, through some standard or customary means of facilitat | 21:04 |
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| SpamapS | soren: the real question is what constitutes modifying the program, and what constitutes the modified program. | 21:04 |
| sgran | the AGPL is designed to say, "if you run a web service, you must provide the source code" | 21:05 |
| sgran | there are rules lawyering games you can play about what constitutes modification and under what circumstance you can get around that, but that's the point of it | 21:05 |
| sgran | there are valid reasons not to want to do that, so you should stay away from software under that license if you have one of those reasons | 21:06 |
| SpamapS | Yeah, its point is sound. It being used by, for instance, Oracle, to pollute BerkeleyDB 6.0 so corporate users will be forced to buy a license, is what is crap. | 21:06 |
| insanidade | would anyone please clarify the difference between Core OpenStack Networking API and Quantum/Neutron API ? | 21:06 |
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| SpamapS | So there's also a "this is crap, stop it" element to AGPL hate. | 21:06 |
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| soren | SpamapS: See, that's what I don't get. What sort of doubt could there be as to what constitutes modifying the program? | 21:08 |
| soren | SpamapS: Also, what is it that people want to do to e.g. MongoDB that they so eagerly want to keep secret? | 21:08 |
| soren | SpamapS: So eagerly, in fact, that they'd rather not use MongoDB at all rather than risk sharing their modifications. | 21:09 |
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| SpamapS | soren: you and I are logical people, with a strong knowledge of technology. We know that. Do you trust the major courts in the major markets OpenStack wants to be used in to understand that? | 21:09 |
| SpamapS | soren: because a lot of people simply don't. | 21:10 |
| SpamapS | which is the whole point of using the Apache 2.0 license. | 21:10 |
| soren | SpamapS: I'm just genuinely curious what sort of nut job interpretations that these lawyers are afraid might be offered from the courts. | 21:10 |
| soren | SpamapS: Besides, with MongoDB it's even easier: If push indeed comes to shove and a judge screws it up for everyone, buy a frickin' license and be done with it. | 21:11 |
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| SpamapS | soren: so you deploy 20,000 nodes of mongodb.. and _then_ you ask 10gen for a price? | 21:13 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee: ping | 21:14 |
| SpamapS | soren: these conversations feel a lot like the discussions we (engineers) often have about security, right? "In what world does somebody give away their password to a person on the phone?" | 21:14 |
| soren | SpamapS: I'm just saying that there is a way out. | 21:15 |
| henrynash | gyee: added configuration.rst update to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38308/18 as suggested | 21:15 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash: you going to be here for the next few minutes? | 21:16 |
| henrynash | dolphm: np | 21:16 |
| henrynash | probably not…but will be back in an hour or two | 21:16 |
| morganfainberg | ok i;ll hit you up then | 21:17 |
| SpamapS | soren: MongoDB is not magical. It is just popular. For what ceilometer and marconi are doing Redis, Riak, Cassandra, even MySQL, can be used... | 21:17 |
| henrynash | you want to talk caching? | 21:17 |
| morganfainberg | yeah | 21:17 |
| morganfainberg | specifically around list_* methods | 21:17 |
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| dolphm | SpamapS: ++ | 21:17 |
| soren | SpamapS: Sometimes I'm amazed anyone ever gets to do anything. It seems lawyers are afraid of everything and would rather we all just went home and kept quiet to avoid being sued. | 21:17 |
| morganfainberg | making sure filtering impl and caching play nice :) | 21:17 |
| SpamapS | soren: so for those who have crazy lawyers who want to use the license they have accepted, and don't want AGPL... we need abstraction. | 21:17 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: ++ | 21:17 |
| soren | SpamapS: Oh, sure, sure. I'm not too hot on MongoDB myself either. | 21:17 |
| SpamapS | soren: lawyers and engineers are very similar in this aspect. We all want to do things right and fix bugs. So do lawyers. :) | 21:17 |
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| lifeless | russellb: http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-90.txt much better :) | 21:18 |
| dolphm | SpamapS: engineers are lazy and work as efficiently as possible | 21:18 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: ^ | 21:18 |
| SpamapS | soren: the point is merely that there is enough ambiguity to make multiple organizations raise eyebrows and refuse to take such a risk, even if it seems absurd. | 21:18 |
| soren | SpamapS: I just wish a lawyer would point out exactly what the potential for misunderstanding is, because I can't spot it. I want to learn. | 21:19 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: much better :) | 21:19 |
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| lifeless | soren: lawyers often can't :(. If they analyse the license on behalf of a particular client, that discussion is privileged | 21:19 |
| SpamapS | right. | 21:19 |
| henrynash | gyee, morganfainberg, young, bknudson: think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38308/18 is now ready (jenkins is co-operating)…happy to take any last minute issues and fix tonight | 21:19 |
| lifeless | soren: so you need lawyers to a) look closely and b) do so not on behalf of any client | 21:19 |
| lifeless | soren: which pretty much rules out all corporate lawyers | 21:20 |
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| soren | lifeless: Hm. Interesting point. | 21:20 |
| dolphm | henrynash: morganfainberg: expecting issues between caching and filtering? | 21:20 |
| SpamapS | IIRC, the FSF has done independent evaluation of it. | 21:20 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm: no, just the list_* methods need to play nice, his reviews touch them, so would caching (potentially) | 21:21 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm: so need to make sure implementations are compatble. worst case, i'll push caching on filtered interfaces. | 21:22 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm: but i doubt that will be needed. | 21:22 |
| henrynash | dolphm: we're gonna chat later on it | 21:22 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, is there some way we could do the auth plugin without the huge parameter lists? Can we make some sort of abstract base class which has all of those values on it, and pass around a reference to it? | 21:23 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: ++ that would be nice. | 21:24 |
| jamielennox | ayoung, so there is somewhat of that proposed in alessio's later patches | 21:24 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, you seem to know all this ABC stuff...is there any support for doing something like that with kwargs and a fixed set of properties on some object? | 21:24 |
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| jamielennox | essentially the plan is to put an opt_names on the class which would be the definitive of what you can instantiate that class with | 21:25 |
| jamielennox | unfortunately we need to backwards support a lot of this stuff | 21:25 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, link? | 21:25 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: don't think so, not in the context of ABC, but possibly in the context of a metaclass | 21:26 |
| ayoung | yeah, I get the backwards support aspect, which is why autogenerated things fro kwargs would be nice | 21:26 |
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| ayoung | I was on my way to school when I metaclass... | 21:26 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung: lol | 21:26 |
| jamielennox | ayoung, if you look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/42164/9/keystoneclient/auth/keystone.py | 21:26 |
| jamielennox | there is some opt_names and variables are saved in a dict called opts | 21:26 |
| jamielennox | that way you can just pass the dict around | 21:26 |
| jamielennox | it's messier in that review than it needs to be because he is trying to jam everything into that base class | 21:27 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, seems like opt_names should be option_names, and composed of an optional list and a required list, no? | 21:28 |
| jamielennox | the cool stuff that happens later though is you can take those opt_names and match them directly to argparse and such | 21:28 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, yep. Can that somehow tie in with kwargs...? | 21:29 |
| jamielennox | ayoung, depends on the definition of required | 21:29 |
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| gyee | henrynash, looking | 21:29 |
| jamielennox | as things stand we don't 'require' anything it just fails later if you don't provide it | 21:29 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, he has "sufficient" options in there, maybe that is better name | 21:29 |
| jamielennox | or it does it's best to work around it | 21:30 |
| ayoung | but looks like those are more complex rules | 21:30 |
| jamielennox | we disagree on some of the finer points | 21:30 |
| ayoung | either otken, or (userid,pw) or... | 21:30 |
| jamielennox | i don't like the whole sufficient_opts method | 21:30 |
| jamielennox | it seems like a CLI issue and i told him to drop that until we had the client figured out | 21:30 |
| jamielennox | ahh, asked him... | 21:31 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, so, it feels like a the client analog to what we do in the token creation code on the server | 21:31 |
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| ayoung | shouldn't token be one plugin, uid/pw a second, and so on? | 21:31 |
| jamielennox | ayoung, big jumbled mess with everything having an input? | 21:31 |
| jamielennox | ayoung, ideally sure | 21:32 |
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| jamielennox | what i'm trying to get to is something that will work with the current system as well as the new stuff | 21:32 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, ok...which review is the most pressing? Let me start there | 21:32 |
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| jamielennox | token should be a plugin, but there is this giant legacy of stuff that needs supporting | 21:33 |
| jamielennox | ayoung, probably that one | 21:33 |
| jamielennox | create auth plugins | 21:34 |
| jamielennox | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43828/ | 21:34 |
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| jamielennox | but i guess already i'm thinking about it and i should look to extract a new keystone v2 and then have a legacy object that inherits from it, rather than support all that cruft going forward | 21:34 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, yep | 21:36 |
| jamielennox | i had been thinking if i start from there then i can look to start deprecating things off the object | 21:36 |
| jamielennox | but anyone who uses this new shouldn't have to deal with this crap | 21:36 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, morganfainberg does python give you any way to autogenerate a parameter list for a function? | 21:36 |
| jamielennox | param list? | 21:37 |
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| bknudson | shouldn't the server indicate that the response doesn't include all of the results? | 21:37 |
| bknudson | like when it hits the list_limit ? | 21:37 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson: i think os | 21:38 |
| morganfainberg | so* | 21:38 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, yeah, somethinkg like take this dictionary and make a parameter list out of it | 21:38 |
| morganfainberg | but how do you indicate that in an apicomatible way at the moment? | 21:38 |
| jamielennox | ayoung, you can always just take kwargs and check keys against a predefined list | 21:38 |
| bknudson | if we can't do that then we should just get rid of the list_limit. | 21:38 |
| jamielennox | i think that's what i'm doing at the moment | 21:38 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson: i am on board with that, push that to the pagination patch… | 21:39 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, will that work if the user calls with an explicit parameter? And it breaks parameter ordering, doesn't it? | 21:39 |
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| jamielennox | ayoung, it won't be picked up as a kwarg if you provide is as a ordered param | 21:40 |
| jamielennox | but i don't think we do that anywhere | 21:40 |
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| jamielennox | and if you want an ordered parameter you shouldn't be doing this sort of stuff anyway | 21:41 |
| bknudson | ordered params get picked up as kwargs. | 21:41 |
| bknudson | if there's more ordered params in the call then there are on the spec. | 21:41 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, so...if we converted that huge parameter list to something that unpacked kwargs, we would not break anything? | 21:41 |
| jamielennox | bknudson, no they get picked up as *args | 21:41 |
| bknudson | sure, if you have *args. | 21:41 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, so we include *args in the parameter list, and enforce order checking against the dictionary for that first, and then do the kwargs | 21:42 |
| jamielennox | bknudson, if you don't have *args and you don't provide a k=v format it will fail | 21:43 |
| jamielennox | ayoung, i'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish. everything so far is passed around as **kwargs on purpose | 21:43 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, I'm trying to get away from multiple functionshaving the same long parameter list | 21:44 |
| jamielennox | so my solution to that would be to stop taking arguments to the authenticate() function | 21:44 |
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| jamielennox | i can't see why anyone would do that | 21:45 |
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| jamielennox | explicity override something in the class object just for the auth process | 21:45 |
| gyee | ayoung, the auth plugin themselves should tell the framework what args they need | 21:45 |
| gyee | like a get_args method | 21:45 |
| ayoung | gyee, yeah, we're trying to get there. | 21:45 |
| jamielennox | or opt_names on the class | 21:46 |
| SpamapS | does anybody know of a regex library for python that does not have backref support (or a way to tell re/regex to disable it)_? | 21:46 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, need to get on the bus here in a few minutes, but I have your code on my Laptop. | 21:46 |
| gyee | it should return some sort of dictionary which contains the arg name, type, display name, default value, help message | 21:46 |
| SpamapS | trying to come up with a solution to https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1217194 that does not involve "sorry no regexes for you" | 21:46 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1217194 in heat "AllowedPattern is using python re module with user input" [High,Triaged] | 21:46 |
| jamielennox | gyee, hadn't thought of going that far | 21:46 |
| gyee | jamielennox, otherwise, plugin will be constraint | 21:48 |
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| jamielennox | i meant specifically including type, display name etc into the argument info | 21:48 |
| jamielennox | there is a version around that will let the plugin set it's own argparse function | 21:48 |
| jamielennox | but that wasn't being auto generated, it involved adding new entries when it was required | 21:49 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, what unit test should I use to test the base auth code? | 21:49 |
| gyee | jamielennox, can the framework handle that? | 21:50 |
| gyee | like "keystone --auth_strategy myauth --help | 21:50 |
| jamielennox | ayoung, the point at the moment is that nothing is broken from the past | 21:50 |
| gyee | it should just call myauth.help() | 21:50 |
| jamielennox | there is no reason it can't | 21:51 |
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| morganfainberg | thats pretty flexible. | 21:51 |
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| jamielennox | this is still fairly new so i'm just trying not to break the current keystone using world | 21:51 |
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| gyee | myauth.validate(**params) to validate the user inputs | 21:51 |
| jamielennox | it's just a matter of should we have an argument list such that help and validate are auto-generated, or should wee just allow the plugin to provide a custom function for that stuff | 21:52 |
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| gyee | jamielennox, nothing should be auto-generated | 21:52 |
| gyee | should be delegated to the plugins | 21:53 |
| jamielennox | or obviously both as the validate call could be overriden | 21:53 |
| jamielennox | gyee, agree there are always too many edge cases when this stuff is auto-generated | 21:54 |
| gyee | we need a flexible framework so we can just drop an auth plugin if we want | 21:54 |
| gyee | drop in | 21:54 |
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| jamielennox | gyee, that's the plan | 21:54 |
| morganfainberg | i think the plugin should just be delegated that work. | 21:54 |
| gyee | right | 21:54 |
| jamielennox | what is up for code review doesn't get us there, it just gets us to the point where we've seperated from the base client the concept of auth and the concept of a session | 21:55 |
| morganfainberg | sorry playing a little catchup on the convo | 21:55 |
| jamielennox | I haven't got a firm opinion yet on how much the auth plugin should be handling | 21:55 |
| gyee | what's there right now is just allow different plugins to work with the same set of parameters | 21:55 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, the fact that __init and authenticate have the same parameter list is what worries me. Let me see if I can hack that to make it a single point | 21:55 |
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| gyee | that's not flexible enough, but it will give us a starting point | 21:55 |
| jamielennox | ayoung, i don't want authenticate to take parameters - problem solved | 21:56 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox: that seems reasonable. | 21:56 |
| jamielennox | also for new code i'd like to not have to rely on that existing code | 21:56 |
| jamielennox | but personally i really dislike huge changes coming through at once, particularly in client where we have api compat issues | 21:57 |
| jamielennox | these patches are purely separation | 21:57 |
| jamielennox | so i need to rename identity.v2.Auth to identity.v2.LegacyAuth or something so that v2.Auth can be new code | 21:58 |
| jamielennox | ditto v3 | 21:58 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, ok, have to fly...back on line later on tonight | 21:58 |
| jamielennox | ayoung, np | 21:59 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: let me know when you're ready to sync up on list_* caching methods, i want tog et the last patch (or 2) in the chain together this evening. | 21:59 |
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| jamielennox | but there are issues that arise from the connection seperation (the following patch) that aren't going to let this stuff happen straight up | 21:59 |
| morganfainberg | i'm going to follow up w/ henrynash a little later on as well. | 21:59 |
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| jamielennox | you guys feel free, i've got to get ready to go to work anyway | 22:01 |
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| gyee | morganfainberg, are you making list_* caching configurable? | 22:05 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee: well, currently the whole subsystem is cacheable. e.g. assignment has a toggle | 22:06 |
| gyee | morganfainberg, so its all or nothing? | 22:07 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: i know that the full "list_users" for example, could possibly benefit from caching | 22:07 |
| fabiog | bknudson: addressed all your comments in patch 34 (at least I hope :-)) | 22:07 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: right now. i could create more toggles fairly easily. | 22:07 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: the other option is to cache the | 22:08 |
| gyee | morganfainberg, that would be nice | 22:08 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: full list users (for example) but not any filtered one | 22:08 |
| morganfainberg | caching list_users() is easy, invalidations are easy | 22:08 |
| morganfainberg | caching list_users(filter=blah) becomes hard. esp. with invalidations | 22:09 |
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| gyee | morganfainberg, that sounds fair | 22:09 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: your preference is to offer a mechanism to just not cache list_* ? | 22:09 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee: can you think of concerns of caching the non-filtered versions? | 22:10 |
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| gyee | morganfainberg, I worried if a backend don't play nice | 22:12 |
| gyee | in the case of HP ED, which returns you thousands of entries | 22:12 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee: right. | 22:12 |
| morganfainberg | likely that would blow out a single memcache page. | 22:12 |
| gyee | right | 22:12 |
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| SlickNik | dtroyer / afezekas: please can you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38169/ when you get a chance? Thanks! | 22:12 |
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| gyee | morganfainberg, would it be a lot of work adding a different taggle for list_* | 22:13 |
| gyee | toggle | 22:13 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee: just some refactoring of how "should_cache" ends up being built | 22:13 |
| morganfainberg | it's not too terrible. | 22:13 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee: my concern is having too many toggles :P trying to not overwhelm people when configuring caching | 22:15 |
| morganfainberg | but still provide good functionality | 22:15 |
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| gyee | morganfainberg, as long as you give them a reasonable defaults out-of-the-box, I bet most people won't even touch them | 22:17 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee: thats the plan. well beyond the obvious "cache is disabled out of the gate" | 22:17 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: ok, i'll look to add something to toggle list_* methods per subsystem as cachable | 22:18 |
| gyee | morganfainberg, k, not a big deal, but a nice to have | 22:18 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee: unless there is an issue making filtering play nice w/ caching. | 22:19 |
| morganfainberg | whichcase, i'll be punting on caching the list_* methods. | 22:19 |
| gyee | morganfainberg, yeah, just punt it for now | 22:20 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: i'll see how my convo w/ henrynash goes later on. it might become an I feature to cache those calls. | 22:20 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: list_* that is. | 22:20 |
| gyee | sounds good | 22:20 |
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| insanidade | question: how/where do I specify the plugin I want to use for, let's say, neutron ? | 22:30 |
| lifeless | neutron's config | 22:30 |
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| fabiog | morganfainberg, stevemar: please review patch 34 | 22:31 |
| morganfainberg | fabiog: will do. | 22:31 |
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| lifeless | insanidade: /etc/neutron/neutron.conf | 22:31 |
| lifeless | core_plugin = neutron.plugins.openvswitch.ovs_neutron_plugin.OVSNeutronPluginV2 | 22:31 |
| lifeless | for instance | 22:31 |
| fabiog | morganfainberg: thanks, I hope I will cross the line now ... | 22:31 |
| fabiog | :-) | 22:32 |
| morganfainberg | fabiog: you're close. | 22:32 |
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| insanidade | lifeless: thanks. | 22:38 |
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| fabiog | bknudson: please review patch 35 | 23:06 |
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| henrynash | bknudson: thx for all your comments | 23:10 |
| bknudson | henrynash: no problem. | 23:11 |
| henrynash | bknudson: one question…is it a standard to have xxxx_in_out for parameters that are modified? I hadn't seen that done elsewhere in keystone | 23:11 |
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| bknudson | henrynash: do we have a lot of in-out parameters? | 23:11 |
| bknudson | I think they should be avoided. | 23:12 |
| henrynash | bknudson: I doubt it | 23:12 |
| henrynash | bknudson: I agree in general | 23:12 |
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| henrynash | bknudson: in this case, it seemed to be the least worst option | 23:13 |
| bknudson | henrynash: I don't have a problem with using it, but since it's kind of dangerous and surprising it's best to make it explicit. | 23:13 |
| bknudson | I know we've had problems in the past where the caller didn't expect the ref to change and it did. | 23:13 |
| henrynash | bknudson: ok, ouch, big search and replace coming up... | 23:14 |
| bknudson | you can make the change in a separate commit if you want. | 23:14 |
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| fabiog | morganfainberg: you can fire it up :-) | 23:56 |
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