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boreihi all00:03
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boreiquestion about cloud-init, this channel is the last option00:03
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boreiwhat should be configured to force cloud-init reread user-data ?00:04
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ccard_We have an OpenStack installation with 3 controllers in an HA configuration (corosync/pacemaker/galera etc.). Are there any recommendations for whether we should have innodb_file_per_table set for the mariadb databases?08:53
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deepikaI wish to make some changes in a patch I uploaded earlier, I am trying to respond to the requests. So am I supposed to make changes in the local copy of the file?? and then push through that?11:29
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jankideepika: Make chnages into your local copy, commit it and submit for review11:39
jankideepika: This is what I do11:39
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deepikajanki:  so clone the repository , ammend the content there, check the status and push through right???11:43
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jankideepika: right11:44
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deepikajanki: thank you :)11:44
jankideepika: i would recommend to consult someone experienced11:45
jankideepika: i too am a new contributor11:45
jankideepika: logically the process has to be this one11:45
deepikajanki:  if this doesn't work I will come back and make some noise again:D11:46
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jankideepika: :D11:46
jankideepika: if this works, do let me know11:46
deepikajanki: will do!11:47
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___SimMyhey guys11:49
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deepikajanki:  i made modifications12:08
jankideepika: did it get updated at gerrit?12:09
deepikaand then did git status, git add and then git review but it gives me a fatal error12:09
jankideepika: what error?12:09
deepikaso it did not get updated at gerrit12:09
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deepika ! [remote rejected] HEAD -> refs/publish/master/bp/ops-guide-rst (you are not allowed to upload merges)12:10
jankideepika: it seems the change you made is already mergered, meaning the changes already exists in the place you are changing12:11
jankideepika: was your earlier patch merged?12:12
deepikajanki: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290073/1..2/doc/networking-guide/source/intro-tunnel-technologies.rst these are the changes that I am trying to make12:12
deepikaand it doesn't seem like they are updated12:12
deepikaI just made modifications in the local copy that I have12:12
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Hkominos_Hi all. I have a small kilo deployment (virtualbox, Fuel 7.0, 1 Controller 1 Compute) and I am trying to use nova docker.However I cannot spawn containers and i Get from the logs AttributeError: 'dict' object has no attribute 'container_format'12:20
Hkominos_Has anybody seen something similar?12:21
jankideepika: I dont know the reason for the failure. May be you can check with someone more experienced12:22
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deepikajanki: ok :)12:23
Spidermaybe this can help http://stackoverflow.com/questions/28966434/arff-loader-attributeerror-dict-object-has-no-attribute-data12:23
Hkominos_thats why i am here :P #openstack is the place to be!12:23
Spideridk for sure just trying to help12:24
deepikayankcrime:  I am trying to propose some changes in a patch that I submitted https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290073/1..2/doc/networking-guide/source/intro-tunnel-technologies.rst and I made the modifications in the local file that I have after that I tried git staus git add and git review but I keep on getting the error error: failed to push some refs to 'https://deepikadutta@review.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-manuals.git'12:25
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Hkominos_Thanks for the Link Spider . The link is a good description of the problem. However dont forget that this is openstack code so i would assume that it would work out of the box (roughly).  So this could be a configuration error. The problem is that Glance image-show shows the specific field. the question is why neutron does not take it12:28
Hkominos_https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/89575/failed-to-spawn-nova-docker-container/12:28
Hkominos_I have here some logs if anyone could help12:29
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Spiderare you starting the container from a compute node or a a node with Glance services?12:32
Hkominos_from horizon12:32
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SpiderHkominos_, maybe have a quick look at this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31085293/attributeerror-dict-object-has-no-attribute-when-iterate-over-a-diction12:49
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deepikavar count_bubble=7;         if(sorted()){          while(count_bubble>0){ if(sorted()){   copy.splice(count_bubble,1);    count_bubble--;}         }  // alert("Sorted successfully.");     I am trying to propose some changes in a patch that I submitted https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290073/1..2/doc/networking-guide/source/intro-tunnel-technologie15:06
deepikaand I made the modifications in the local file that I have after that I tried git staus git add and git review but I keep on getting the error error: failed to push some refs to 'https://deepikadutta@review.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-manuals.git'   any help??15:06
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psachindeepika, have you pulled before making changes?, else do force push15:08
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deepikapsachin: i tried git review -d <no> but that also did not work15:25
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deepikapsachin: this was the error ssh: Could not resolve hostname : Name or service not known15:26
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deepikaI am trying to make some changes in a patch I submitted earlier and can't get through. any help?17:47
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exedore6I’m trying to get my head around openstack, and have a couple of questions, to make sure I’m understanding how it works.19:59
exedore6At the minimum, it looks like I need at least one controller node, and one compute node.19:59
exedore6The compute node will need storage for it’s images. This can be local or network attached.20:00
exedore6If I want multiple compute nodes for redundancy, this storage should be shared.20:00
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exedore6I’ve currently got some hypervisors that are using disk images. I can continue using that model.20:02
exedore6The controller handles creation, destruction, starting, stopping, of instances.20:02
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exedore6If I’ve got a Hyper-V hypervisor, and a Xen hypervisor, the controller (and nova) would be able to take care of moving an instance from one to the other.20:03
exedore6Is this correct, or am I missing something fundamental?20:03
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jmlowemore or less that's all correct except moving between different hypervisor types20:05
jmloweI'm guessing that can't be done20:06
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exedore6Got it. So moving an image would be similar to what I’d have to do today.20:07
exedore6(Shut down the instance, copy the storage over, recover the instance on what amounts to new hardware)20:07
exedore6Can a hypervisor run both nova managed and non-nova managed VMs?20:08
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jmloweI don't see why not mmv20:08
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jidarexedore6: "multiple compute nodes for redundancy" isn't exactly correct, you don't really get "redundancy" out of compute, but rather a place to launch multiple instances and then using stuff like Load Balancers to scale20:48
jidarand yes, what jmlowe said, you can not cross hypervisor types. You'll have to build multiple hypervisors of similar type to reach that sort of availability20:49
exedore6So, an instance can only run on one node at a time, but if the instance is using shared storage, I would be able to move that instance from one node to another (or pick up an instance after it’s computer node falls down?)20:49
jidarlive migration is supported, but it's not the same as VMware's HA20:49
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jidaryou can re-launch it on another nova host, yes.20:50
exedore6But it’s got to be the same hypervisor underneath.20:50
jidaras of now, there is no process to monitor the compute node status and then relaunch VMs on other hosts in case of failure20:50
jidarre: hypervisor, yes.20:50
exedore6And it’d be as if the instance had a power failure if I didn’t suspend the instance first.20:51
jidarcorrect20:51
jidarso crash-inconsistant state20:51
exedore6ha, yeah.20:52
jidarmeaning filesystems might come up and require checks, etc etc20:52
jidarthis is typically why it's recommended for HA to build multiple services on separate compute nodes using something like HEAT20:52
jidarall behind LBaaS or similar20:52
exedore6Got it.20:52
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exedore6When the docs say image, It’s implied to be a read-only thing, right? I create an instance from an image, and that image creates a volume based on that image (which could also become an image to base other instances off of)20:54
jmloweimages are read only20:54
jidaryou can launch an image as an instance and then make snapshots of volumes, or create an image from instance20:55
jmlowethere are two options for creating instances, ephemeral block storage, locally or over network, and persistent volumes20:55
jidarso back into glance, or back into cinder to glance20:55
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exedore6Both ephemeral block storage and persistent volumes are copy on write against the image, right?20:57
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exedore6If I’ve got a traditional hypervisor, there’d be no distinction between ephemeral block storage and persistent volumes, right (because they difference is what heppens when the instance is destroyed)20:59
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jmloweexedore6: cow is dependent on backing stoarge, using ceph, yes cinder ephemeral storage and persistent volumes are cow against ceph backed glance with the proper configuration21:00
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exedore6but normally the complete image is copied to storage that the computer node then writes to in a read-write fashion, right?21:02
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jmlowea counter example would be swift backed glance (analog to s3 back aws images) and iscsi backed cinder, this setup can't be cow21:02
exedore6For iscsi backed cinder, the image would be block copied to the target?21:02
jmlowethat is one way to configure it, copy image locally and use kvm as the hypervisor with qcow2 files created locally21:03
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jmloweI would think so, I've only run ceph backed deployments21:03
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exedore6Okay, thanks a lot, both of you. I think I need to hit the books (I’m getting confused by the storage structure, as in where my vhd’s actually are) but I’ve gotta go for now.) Thank’s so much, so far.21:04
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jmloweit's extremely flexible, which makes it hard to nail down for the beginner21:05
exedore6It seems so, I keep trying to think of it like my current hypervisors, and feel like I’m ‘almost’ there, but not enough to make any decisions.21:06
exedore6Again thanks. I’m sure I’ll be back.21:06
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jidartypically I see most storage vendors do a image->LUN copy on the controller and then pass the LUN off to the compute node21:46
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jidarat least for FC backed, I assume the same is true for iSCSI21:47
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