Friday, 2016-03-11

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baqarHey guys. Does anyone have any idea whether the neutron-gateway juju charm is scalable or not?00:18
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baqarWhether we can deploy multiple units of it?00:18
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jairHello people I am new to openstack, and I feel like entering an Amazon jungle in Brasil... I see openstack community, mirantis, rackspace, ubuntu, redhat, all of them saying that they have the best versions of OpenStack04:42
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jairto be honest it feels like all the fight and distributions of linux out there04:42
jairwithout any bias what version should I work with and therefore provide my feedback and results out of testing the program with my cloud04:43
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jidarjair: whichever you want06:39
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hoiwanhello...I installed openstack with packstack,but the network never worked.anybody went to this issue like me?06:59
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jairjidar: but I am trying to go with the community edition07:18
jairjidar: but sounds like the documentation is not too clear for me07:19
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ankit167hi07:30
ankit167had a question regarding nova/scheduler/weights/ram.py07:31
ankit167why is minval set to 0 by default?07:31
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UrpenSterkhow does one track down which instance on a computer node is the most resource intensive?07:50
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UrpenSterks/computer/compute07:50
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UrpenSterkthey don’t, do they?07:55
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haukebrunoUrpenSterk, for a current view you could use atop07:59
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haukebrunobut I am curious how folks measure it for e.g. a monitoring or graphing tool07:59
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UrpenSterkthat shows me that qemu-system is the most resource intensive service, but I’m unsure how to fingure out which instance that would equate to08:00
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haukebrunouranellus, the commandline of qemu-system should point out the libvirt instance-id08:09
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UrpenSterkah cool08:15
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UrpenSterkI think ‘lsof -p $(pidof qemu-system) | grep instance’ might give me what I need also08:16
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haukebrunoUrpenSterk, of course, but if you use a screen with at least 1080p resolution, you should see the instance-id also in atop :p08:22
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UrpenSterkmaybe one of these days =P08:22
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RageLtManWhats the proper way to track down where fwaas is failing to actuate? I have a deny-all rule on a firewall, and traffic is unhindered08:27
jairHello guys I am about to start the installation of mirantis openstack08:29
admin0good luck :D08:29
jairI know there are so many versions canonical, community devstack, rackspace, redhat08:30
jairit is crazy08:30
jairbut I think so far mirantis has the best and fatfree installer08:30
jairI will give it a try08:31
admin0maas/juju ,  rackspace openstack-ansible, openstack-puppet, openstack-ceph, redhat(tripleO), mirantis(fuel)08:31
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jairThank you so much admin0 that is what I have been able to observe08:32
jairall of them  want add some weird stuff08:32
admin0used all, sticking to ansible :D08:32
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jairansible, rackspace why is that?08:33
jaircurious I am not sure about what to use08:33
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jairbut I noticed that the installer document from mirantis looks simple and require just three nodes08:34
admin0well, depends on your use case.. if this is for an office, private cloud — anything will work .. for customers/public cloud where they want this and that integration and changes, will use something that is easy to customize and hand-over08:34
jairone controller and two additional I guess for compute?08:34
admin0test, you can use anything08:34
admin0if you want to run it for real, then the nodes go up08:34
admin0where is the HA that cloud promises .. one controller is not going to answer that requirement08:35
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haukebrunoadmin0, +1. we are also trying openstack-ansible, I guess it will give us the most flexibility since our customers like to play with new openstack projects/features08:35
jairadmin0: fair enough, what about 1. testing myself in my laptop (horizon, cinder, glance, neutron, swift, ceilometer, heat,nova)08:35
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admin0haukebruno:  i am working on this for a few days now: https://www.openstackfaq.com/openstack-liberty-private-cloud-howto/ .. a complete end to end openstack  cloud howto08:35
admin0plan to give a few more weeks to add as much as I can for end to end deployments08:36
jairadmin0: nice08:36
haukebrunoadmin0, looks great :) internaly I created some similar document for kilo. but it isn't that general08:36
jairadmin0: it is possible to have all in one vm?08:36
admin0VM i doubt08:37
admin0a good server = yes :D08:37
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haukebrunoadmin0, so far we create(d) our platforms from scratch :p but 2 years would be enough for doing so I guess08:37
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admin0yep08:37
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admin0have more of “not invented here” stuff08:38
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jairadmin0: that document of yours is very helpful will definitely look at it08:39
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admin0jair: there are 2 ways of learning ( in my opininon ) .if you are a linux guy or a cloud admin already, i think doing it manual ( spending a weekend ) and understanding what goes where  and then using fuel/rdo/ansible is helpful .. because you know what is happening and how it should work if it does not work ..   but also if you are new, do not do this .. just install fuel, play with openstack .. and then go into details08:41
jairhmm08:42
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admin0i have a car .. i just want to drive .. i still do not want to go into details of how it works or what to do .. if i had started to learn about the engine and how it works before i drove, it would have killed my enthusiasm to learn more and just drive08:42
admin0so if you are new to openstack, use fuel .. see how awesome it configures .. get impressed with what openstack can do .. and then go into details08:42
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jairboth options are good for me... I have good understanding of Linux, I was able to complete this part: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/guides/single-machine.html08:43
jairadmin0: but when I completed this in one VM only, I ended up with no neutron, no cinder or swift,  very minimal08:44
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admin0i have till date not done a single vm stuff :D08:44
admin0rented big servers to ensure i can create enough vms to do it the real way08:44
jairunderstood08:44
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jairso I did that part and the installation was pretty much download the code, make some permission changes for stack and run the script08:45
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admin0:)08:46
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jairbut I am thinking about doing fuel or this: http://docs.openstack.org/liberty/install-guide-ubuntu/08:46
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jairadmin0: I played a bit with nova, and glance, but like I said, neutron was missing, storage block and object missing, ceilometer, heat, missing08:47
admin0if you want to learn, use ansible or manually .. if you are under deadline and need to do it for others, use fuel :D08:47
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jairI just want to have the environment with all the services ready to play, create ports, routers, vms, volumes, subnets private public etc...08:48
jairadmin0: a few quick questions about Openstack in general, why do we need to do that source file all the time when we want to use the command line?08:49
admin0jair: openstack ansible :) you just need 2 vms .. 1 controller , 1 compute ..  .. run all on 1 controller  :D08:49
jairadmin0: is that the same in all the controller nodes?08:49
admin0well, it puts your user/pass in the environmental variables so that you can then use the command line08:49
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jairadmin0: ahhh that sounds good08:49
admin0example, i have like 10 environments to play wtih .. so i need to source for each env i need to connect to08:49
jairadmin0: right08:50
jaira bit hassle, but I do understand that part, so for each tenant? = project I need to have an admin and source the rc.sh file to this user with his username/pass correct?08:50
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admin0tenant = project08:51
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admin0yep08:51
admin0or just open 3 terminals and use 3 windows08:51
admin0with each user/pass08:51
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jairadmin0: cool08:54
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admin0you give me an idea jair .. i am going to do a 3 VM full openstack env howto using virtualbox  and document it :D .. so it helps you to do eveything in your laptop08:55
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jairadmin0: one other thing I noticed, when we do the installation the password shows clear text during the installation and also at the end of the stack.sh script ;-(08:55
admin0i have not used stack.sh script , so cannot say .. but installation is supposed to be an admin/root level stuff .. you need to safeguard your environment ..08:56
jairadmin0: Hey I will actually appreciate that and if you have any interest in collaborate I will be happy to08:56
admin0all your users get is a user/pass/url via which they login and work08:56
jairadmin0: when I did all this isolated in a laptop ubuntu 14.04 lts 64bit no users other than root and stack08:57
admin0jair: the ansible-playbooks is meant for/used in production env .. so the controllers where all containers spawn, i have had success with at least 16gb of ram08:58
jairadmin0: I have my virtual boxes ready here to fire it up but I now need to find the ansible installer08:58
jairadmin0: should I get it from rackspace site?08:58
admin0no08:58
admin0do you have enough resources :D ?08:58
manoushelo08:58
jairmy laptop has 16GB ram and 8 cores08:58
jairW510 IBM08:58
haukebrunoadmin0, spending 1 weekend using openstack for the first time is very very optimistic :p08:59
jairI have another laptop X230 8GB core I508:59
manousi want to use https for public endpoint for neutron and swift. where i change it ?08:59
jairadmin0: I have ssd in both of my laptops08:59
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admin0manous: in the configs and keystone endpoint configs09:00
admin0dunno how its setup in the first place09:00
manouskeystone public endpoint use alredy htts09:00
manousfor neutron in neutron.conf ?09:01
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jairdoesn't neutron router to a public network needs to be configured and floating ip?09:02
jairI am not sure09:02
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jair;(09:02
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jairadmin0: is this the one --> http://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-ansible/install-guide/?09:07
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haukebrunoas we talk about the ansible thing -> does anyone has issues running openstack-ansible under ubuntu 14.04 too? quick search pointed out some LXC problems while starting unpriviliged containers09:09
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jairadmin0: The recommended layout contains a minimum of five hosts (or servers).09:10
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jairhmm that sounds like a bit too much for just testing09:10
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haukebrunojair, could also be 5 VMs on your notebook09:14
haukebrunoin my first days I also run 3 openstack nodes + 3 ceph nodes inside my 8G ram notebook :p09:14
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jairhaukebruno: sure... but the fuel requires just three09:15
jairhugokuo: and I will be able to have all the services including swift and neutron09:15
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jairhaukebruno: so I will go with fuel first09:15
jairadmin0: will do it in ansible in virtual box so let's see how it goes for him09:16
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jairI will start the installation in the next few minutes09:16
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admin0back09:32
admin0i used to use this: https://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-lt .. very good for learning09:32
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admin0but now a days, you can easily do that using AWS as well09:33
admin0have a lot of VMS .. pay hourly09:33
admin0learn09:33
admin0destroy09:33
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cooldharma06minimal one: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-ansible/developer-docs/index.html10:20
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lptrhi, could anyone hint as to how to enable the openstack repos on rhel7 (I have valid subscriptions) ?10:50
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lptrnevermind...found it.. :)10:55
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haukebrunohas anyone around tips to speed up nova-api? running 2 nodes with nova-api, 20 worker each but still got a response time about 2-4s for nova list --all-tenants (20 instances in summary)12:51
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olivermllerAnyone else that's had problems accessing a VM via SSH after associating a floating IP with it? I can SSH to them, but I get stuck at the key exchange, except on Debian, which kills the session after a few commands.14:18
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yankcrimehaukebruno: how do you know nova-api is the bottleneck? i.e how quickly to queries return from your database, and then further up how quick is keystone to authenticate and issue tokens?14:33
yankcrimeolivermller: sounds like an MTU issue14:33
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Sam-I-Amolivermller: yep, that would be mtu14:37
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haukebrunoyankcrime, just guessing so far. all keystone, glance or neutron related parts of horizon are faster for example, plus is the API response time lower ~1s for all other components vs. 2-4s for nova-api14:57
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haukebrunoyankcrime, but didn't took a deeper look, that will follow tomorrow. generally for me that isn't "too slow" but I am curious wether things could be faster (or not)14:58
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v3nd3tta``darnit, glance is a bitch...15:03
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KostasDihey there! I know my question is not directly related to openstack but there are not many places to ask, so here I go15:21
KostasDiI've got my hands on a Seagate Kinetic drive, and I'm trying to make it work. Anyone has any relevant experience or could point me to the right direction?15:21
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olivermlleryankcrime, Sam-I-Am: Got it, thanks.15:22
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lbragstadsayalilunkad results you asked about in #openstack-bugsmash https://gist.github.com/dolph/b8acbf7e4920e27dcb9315:25
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sayalilunkadlbragstad: thanks!15:28
lbragstadsayalilunkad no problem!15:28
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v3nd3tta``okay i am on liberty and i have a bug with "openstack image list" where it defaults to a 404 because it requests from http://controller1:35357/v3/v2/images16:04
v3nd3tta``where the v3/v2 is the apparent issue and i can't seem to find it anywhere16:05
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v3nd3tta``do i have to report a bug or what to figure out where it comes from?16:16
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skullonei figured out my live migration issue16:26
skulloneso, iscsi volumes work just fine for live migration16:27
skullonemy problem is - i use the config_drive16:27
skullonewhich seemingly cannot be migrated16:27
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Sam-I-Amv3nd3tta``: you probably made a config error somewhere16:31
v3nd3tta``i am searching for that error since hours but i cannot find it16:31
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v3nd3tta``also it only appears on  "openstack image list", all others work, but this one 404's already at the apache path16:32
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Sam-I-Amwhat do you mean all others work?16:33
v3nd3tta``user list, endpoint list etc16:33
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v3nd3tta``when i tied the rc file with v2 i got 404 all over16:34
Sam-I-Amwhats in your admin openrc file?16:34
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v3nd3tta``it literally doesn't matter if it's export OS_URL=http://controller1:35357 or export OS_URL=http://controller1:35357/v3 - apart from that there is export OS_IDENTITY_API_VERSION=3 and my token, that's it16:35
Sam-I-Amno user creds in there?16:36
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v3nd3tta``no, the need for this is eliminated by the token16:38
Sam-I-Amyeah, dont do that16:38
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Sam-I-Amthe admin token method does not understand versions16:38
Sam-I-Amand hence, breaks, for anything except bootstrapping keystone16:38
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Sam-I-Amyou need to follow all the steps in the identity chapter of the installation guide16:39
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v3nd3tta``okay16:42
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v3nd3tta``still doesn't solve my logout issue in the dashboard upon entering "images". mh16:43
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Sam-I-Amlogout issue?16:44
v3nd3tta``well upon clicking "images" i get logged out, can't login with my user data either16:45
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v3nd3tta``ERROR glance.registry.client.v1.client NotAuthenticated: Authentication required16:46
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v3nd3tta``much better than 403 and "not authenticated" is 500 Internal Server Error: The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation. (HTTP 500) - that more seems like it is </frustrated>17:06
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Sam-I-Amv3nd3tta``: sounds like your auth is messed up17:14
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v3nd3tta``yup, seems like that but i can't find a mistake... i would need to reset the glance config i think17:18
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SharkonwheelsThis a good place to ask about architecting an OpenStack env?17:39
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admin0go ahead sh_smith17:41
admin0Sharkonwheels:17:41
admin0:D17:41
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admin0sorry sh_smith17:41
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Sharkonwheelsquick BG: we have 22 locations, vmware, vCenter 5.5. (5)HP DL380 G8/G9 hosts, (4)HP StorVirtual iSCSI SANs on average. 60% of our workload is Win VMs.17:42
admin0ok17:43
SharkonwheelsWe're looking at using LXC/LXD containers, and was wondering if OpenStack can be run managing just containers, ie, have a few VMs for running them, and us OStack for them.17:43
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Sharkonwheelswe're getting more and more Linux stuff, but building a whole VM is a waste. Don't need bare-metal virtualization, but would love the extra features of LXD, ie, live migration, etc..17:44
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admin0you can setup a openstack cluster to test out, and try out magnum ( for the containers ) .. but it is not mature enough17:51
admin0but good enough to test if it fits your expectations17:52
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Sharkonwheels<searching on magnum>17:53
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admin0Sharkonwheels: https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2015/summit-videos/presentation/magnum-containers-as-a-service-for-openstack17:59
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admin0Sharkonwheels: https://www.openstack.org/assets/pdf-downloads/Containers-and-OpenStack.pdf18:00
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SharkonwheelsAdmin0: That pdf states that LXC and VZ containers are supported today, and docker and others under magnum. What's the state of LXC/LXD support? I assume OStack+heat would rock...18:06
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admin0Sharkonwheels: i am a kvm shop ..  not sure on the state or the supprot of lxc18:07
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skoudeI have a problem that my instances are not getting an ip with dhcp.. Any idea how to fix this issue? I have a corosync, pacemaker and drbd in use, and I see that the dhcp query gets to compute node, but it get's no answer from primary control node.19:06
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admin0skoude:      instance -> compute -> switches -> network node -> namespace -> dnsmasq19:08
admin0have you checked the flow of the packet everywhere ?19:08
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skoudeadmin0: The problem started after running updates to cloud. It worked yesterday, but I have been debuggin it since...19:09
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admin0that didn’t answer my question though :D19:10
skoudeadmin0: and I'm not shure what should I check.  :)19:10
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admin0run dhcp query in the instance . and then run tcpdump on your network and compute node19:10
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admin0see if those are getting the request .. if they are, check the return path as well19:11
skoudeI checked this: http://pastebin.com/RY3utCwD19:11
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skoudeadmin0: and then I checked the interfaces like this: http://pastebin.com19:12
skoudeso basically it seems that the request is not coming to control node..19:13
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skoudeBut I haven't yet figured out how to solve it19:14
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admin0switch, router, something in between ?19:14
admin0wait19:14
admin0that tcpdump is from the instance or the compute node ?19:15
admin0nvm.. compute node19:15
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skoudeswitches are fine.. DO you mean the virtual routers?19:16
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admin0where are the virtual routers ? in the controller nodes ?19:17
skoudethe routers are on control nodes: root@d0c-c4-7a-1f-0a-28:~ # ip netns19:17
skoudeqdhcp-ec7001fa-2582-45c2-8fb0-6dd00a741b6319:17
skoudeqrouter-2bb1a093-d4bc-4ddf-be48-447b24e0749719:17
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admin0 i do not know how to help further .. something in blocking the dhcp19:20
admin0maybe on different vlans ?19:20
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skoudeadmin0: that's okay, if you come with any idea, just let me know.. I will try to figure it out somehow..19:21
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skoudeadmin0: and thanks for help :)19:21
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skoudeadmin0: migth the problem be with the tap4d7c36fc-03 -interface.. see: http://pastebin.com/J9Gm4V7u19:39
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rickyremDo GRE tunnels scale better than using VXLAN? I read somewhere that VXLAN doesn't scale very well when getting past 30 nodes.19:42
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jidarrickyrem: that might be the case if you're not using l2 population for mac address population19:44
jidarbecause in some ways, it defaults to multicast for that learning and there are issues that may crop up19:44
jidarthis is just hearsay on my part, I've not seen any of these issues even without l2population on19:45
rickyremjidar: okay! thanks for your input19:45
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rickyremAnother person I can't ask setup these neutron configs so i'm questioning each option to learn.19:46
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rickyremFor ml2 i have set "tenant_network_types = gre, vxlan" I'm not sure why both are set. The guides Ive seen just use one options.19:49
rickyremDo you have input as to why it has both?19:49
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jidarthey're just both enabled19:53
jidarso you can either create GRE tunnels or VXLAN tunnels19:53
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jidarI personally just use one19:54
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rickyremjidar: Okay, that makes sense19:55
jidarsome of my customers like to enable everything though19:56
* jidar shrugs19:56
jidarthey just let the usecase define what to use19:56
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RadoI'm trying to have a VM route traffic for an isolated subnet and source address verification is preventing this- neutron creates those rules: Chain neutron-openvswi-s95f580da-0 (1 references)  pkts bytes target     prot opt in     out     source               destination   214 44784 RETURN     all  --  *      *       192.168.0.6          0.0.0.0/0            MAC FA:16:3E:40:8E:23 /* Allow traffic from defined IP/MAC pairs. */ 1546320:15
RadoI'm trying to have a VM route traffic for an isolated subnet and source address verification is preventing this- neutron creates those rules:20:15
RadoChain neutron-openvswi-s95f580da-0 (1 references)20:15
Rado pkts bytes target     prot opt in     out     source               destination20:15
Rado  214 44784 RETURN     all  --  *      *       192.168.0.6          0.0.0.0/0            MAC FA:16:3E:40:8E:23 /* Allow traffic from defined IP/MAC pairs. */20:15
Rado15463 1315K DROP       all  --  *      *       0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0            /* Drop traffic without an IP/MAC allow rule. */20:15
Radohow can we disable creation of the drop rule altogether?20:15
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twm_2016Has anyone here encountered problems related to installing deps while running a tox test on swift?20:30
twm_2016I've tried the solution here: https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/gcloud-python/issues/1103 but haven't had any luck.20:30
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tdasilvatwm_2016: what errors are you running into? can you put in pastebin?20:36
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twm_2016tdasilva: this is the output http://paste.openstack.org/show/490249/20:39
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georgem1Rado: http://blog.otherwiseguy.com/trying-out-the-ml2-port-security-extension/20:59
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tullI would like to enable hyper-threading on some of my compute nodes - once it's been done at the compute node level, what do I need to do to make the scheduler aware of the increased capacity?  Is it simply modifying nova.compute_nodes.vcpus in the DB?21:19
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SamYapletull: those stats get reported periodically21:24
SamYapleworst case is you would need to restart the nova-compute service21:24
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SamYaplethat said i dont think you can toggle HT without a reboot anyway21:25
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djdjdhdHow do i get involved in any open stack project22:43
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dvizerOops got dc22:47
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dvizerHow do i get involved with openstack projects22:47
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devize??22:49
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ssgi change the cpu allocation and restart nova-scheduler an nova-compute service, but it still doesn't reflect the vcpu on hypervisor-show?23:30
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SamYaplessg: it wont affect it on hypervisor-show23:31
SamYaplethats the real count23:31
SamYapleit does update it from the schedulers point of view23:31
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ssgthen what does the vcpus means under hypervisor-show? is that the physical core? but not the overcommit?23:32
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SamYaplessg: correct, as silly as that seems23:52
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SamYapleits technically the number of threads, not neccesarrily the physical core count23:52
SamYapleso intel with HT 8 core would show 16 threads and 16 vcpus under hypervisor-show23:52
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ssggot it thanks SamYaple23:53
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tull@SamYaple - following up on that, would it reflect physical cores or vcpus in the nova DB?23:56
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