Friday, 2013-02-15

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zykes-Is Thomas Goirand on here ?00:19
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rainyai do not speak French, but bonjour!01:51
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DaemonikI have installed OpenStack Folsom as documented in http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/openstack-compute/install/apt/content . I would like to use an NFS export on my network for files that back virtual block devices. Is an NFS driver for Cinder included in Folsom or should I use Nova Volume for now?02:02
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Guest88500anyone have a flatdhcp multinode setup that could help?03:28
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hugokuoGuest88500 , may I help you ?  please have more information04:47
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nonchalantohello07:02
nonchalantoI am a bit confused by the resource pool concepts07:03
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nonchalantowith Compute, can one server make use of cpus on another server?07:04
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mattsmithHi All,09:05
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zykes-mattsmith: hi09:07
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mattsmithI'm new to openstack, I have been setup with a project and i've started to create instances. These instances all seem to become unresponsive at random intervals. When I look at the openstack gui i see that the power state is paused. can anyone advise why the instances go into this state? both linux and windows machines act the same09:07
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kaio_hi whats recommended cpu gen for openstack?09:28
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Guest89540Hi i have few ques. regarding swift storage...09:34
Guest89540any on ecan help me09:35
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Guest89540I am trying to setup swift storage in a virtual environment but it is giving me some error... so i need some help...09:37
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vik_hi i have few problems regarding swift storage... so anyone can help me...09:57
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nknHi I am trying to setup swift storage in a virtual environment but I am facing some problem...10:13
vkmcHi nkn, what's happening?10:17
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nknHi vkmc, I have installed swift -stable-folsom release from https://github.com/openstack/swift/tree/stable/folsom in virtual environment10:19
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nknand installed all its dependencies in virtual environment10:20
vkmcCool, and which problem are you having?10:21
nknbut when I am running swift main service then it is staring but when i am checking logs then it showing error ImportError: No module named poll10:22
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vkmcCan you paste me complete output?10:22
nknya sure10:23
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nknThere is one thing i want to tell u that i am following this guide http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/development_saio.html10:24
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nknthe following error is coming ....tail -f /var/log/swift/proxy.error10:26
nknFeb 15 13:34:40 ubuntu proxy-server Started child 1310310:26
nknFeb 15 13:34:40 ubuntu proxy-server UNCAUGHT EXCEPTION#012Traceback (most recent call last):#012  File "/root/keystone1/WebOb-1.0.8/virtualenv/bin/swift-proxy-server", line 5, in <module>#012  File "/root/keystone1/WebOb-1.0.8/virtualenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c11-py2.7.egg/pkg_resources.py", line 489, in run_script#012  File "/root/keystone1/WebOb-1.0.8/virtualenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c11-py2.7.egg/pkg_reso10:26
nknurces.py", line 1207, in run_script#012  File "/root/keystone1/WebOb-1.0.8/virtualenv/lib/python2.7/site-packages/swift-1.7.4.1-py2.7.egg/EGG-INFO/scripts/swift-proxy-server", line 22, in <module>#012  File "/root/keystone1/WebOb-1.0.8/virtualenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/swift-1.7.4.1-py2.7.egg/swift/common/wsgi.py", line 194, in run_wsgi#012  File "/root/keystone1/WebOb-1.0.8/virtualenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/swift-1.7.4.1-py2.7.egg/swift10:26
vkmcIt's ok, it's the suggested guide to follow in Swift repo :)10:26
nkn/common/wsgi.py", line 152, in run_server#012  File "/root/keystone1/WebOb-1.0.8/virtualenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/eventlet-0.9.15-py2.7.egg/eventlet/hubs/__init__.py", line 66, in use_hub#012ImportError: No module named poll10:26
nknFeb 15 13:34:40 ubuntu proxy-server Removing dead child 1310310:26
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vkmcOh please, next time use paste.openstack.com10:26
nknFeb 15 13:34:40 ubuntu proxy-server UNCAUGHT EXCEPTION#012Traceback (most recent call last):#012  File "/root/keystone1/WebOb-1.0.8/virtualenv/bin/swift-proxy-server", line 5, in <module>#012  File "/root/keystone1/WebOb-1.0.8/virtualenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c11-py2.7.egg/pkg_resources.py", line 489, in run_script#012  File "/root/keystone1/WebOb-1.0.8/virtualenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c11-py2.7.egg/pkg_reso10:26
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nknurces.py", line 1207, in run_script#012  File "/root/keystone1/WebOb-1.0.8/virtualenv/lib/python2.7/site-packages/swift-1.7.4.1-py2.7.egg/EGG-INFO/scripts/swift-proxy-server", li10:26
vkmchttp://paste.openstack.org/10:27
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nknPaste #3143610:30
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vkmcnkn, As I can see in the questions track for Swift https://answers.launchpad.net/swift, you're not the only one with that problem10:30
nknyes...10:31
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vkmcCool, next time share the url http://paste.openstack.org/show/31436/ ;)10:31
nknactually my colleague are also working on it... they are also facing the same problem...10:31
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nknhi vkmc can u give me some soluion10:35
nknI am just hang on this problem....10:35
vkmcnkn, Did you follow the SAIO guide as it is?10:36
vkmcnkn, Installed all dependencies needed?10:36
vkmcnkn, According to your log, you're using Ubuntu... is Ubuntu 12.04 LTS?10:37
nknyes  is using ubuntu12.0410:37
nknactually i want to setup swift in virtual environment10:38
nknwithout virtual environment it is running ...10:38
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vkmcnkn, Ok well, it's weird to find bugs like that in Folsom as it's an stable release10:41
vkmcnkn, I guess it could be a missing dependency10:41
vkmcnkn, But, let me keep looking and keep an eye to the answers in the answer track in Launchpad10:42
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vkmcnkn, Probably an answer will pop up sooner or later10:43
nknok10:43
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mattsmithI'm new to openstack, I have been setup with a project and i've started to create instances. These instances all seem to become unresponsive at random intervals. When I look at the openstack gui i see that the power state is paused. can anyone advise why the instances go into this state? both linux and windows machines act the same11:26
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itarchitectkevmattsmith, have a look in /var/log/nova/*.log… also check the times on your servers that they're in sync11:35
itarchitectkevmattsmith, or do you not get to manage the infrastructure?11:35
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mattsmithitarchitectkev, I can have a dig around :-), would the time being out on each instance cause them to pause11:45
itarchitectkevmattsmith, the only thing that would cause them to pause would be the hypervisor. I can only assume its the reporting of the state which is causing you pain.11:46
itarchitectkevmattsmith, what is the spec of the hardware its running? Are you overcommitting by a lot too?11:47
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mattsmithitarchitectkev, we are running on a blade chassis at the moment, only a few machines running at the moment so pretty sure we shouldn't be overcommiting11:50
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itarchitectkevmattsmith, describe how many machines and what they'r running?11:51
mattsmithitarchitectkev, any ideas what I should be looking for in the logs? We don't appear to have /var/log/nova so i'm looking across all log files11:51
mattsmithitarchitectkev, the guest instances? I have 3 windows 7 machines and 2 debian machines11:52
mattsmithbuilding a selenium grid on the openstack software11:52
mattsmiththe windows machines are running from snapshots11:52
mattsmithbut the debian box's are from images11:52
mattsmithall 5 currently have a power status of paused11:53
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mattsmiththe OS beneath open stack is ubuntu11:54
mattsmith8 blade servers11:54
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itarchitectkevmattsmith, its the underlying infrastructure that's causing the issue… how many servers make up OpenStack? What is the OS? Where is your controller? How many compute nodes? If you don't have /var/log/nova then you're not looking at OpenStack - I presume you're looking at the guests?12:01
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mattsmithitarchitectkev, i'm sshd onto what i believe is the openstack controller12:12
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itarchitectkevwhat is the OS? Ubuntu? CentOS? RHEL?12:12
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mattsmithUbuntu,12:13
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itarchitectkevas root go to /var/log/nova12:14
itarchitectkevin fact do this: sudo nova-manage service list12:14
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itarchitectkevXXX is bad (I know, but it is in this context ;-))12:14
mattsmith:-)12:15
itarchitectkev:-) is good12:15
mattsmithcan see hosts with XXXX12:15
mattsmithXXX12:15
itarchitectkevok12:15
itarchitectkevcheck the time on those servers12:15
mattsmithnova-consoleauth openstacknode1.mydomain.local   internal         enabled    XXX   2013-02-05 14:48:0712:15
itarchitectkevand any errors in /var/log/nova on those hosts12:15
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itarchitectkevsometimes a give-away for time sync issues is the XXX briefly changes to :-) then back to XXX when you keep looking at the status of them12:16
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itarchitectkevso - multi-node environment rule #1: ntp12:16
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mattsmithhmm ok, i'm going to have a look at each node12:18
mattsmithonly nova-consoleauth that has the XXX12:19
mattsmithand one nova-network12:19
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mattsmithitarchitectkev all dates look to be good12:23
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mattsmithno log_dir is in nova.conf?12:25
mattsmithwill that send all data to syslog?12:25
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itarchitectkevit goes to /var/log/nova/nova-*.log - can't remember which one12:26
itarchitectkevI presume consoleauth.log?12:26
itarchitectkevgrep ERR in /var/log/nova12:27
itarchitectkev(as root)12:27
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mattsmithall our errors are being re-directed to syslog12:30
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itarchitectkevok. check /var/log/syslog.12:32
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mattsmithcould it be apparmour?12:34
mattsmithnot a lot in syslog12:36
mattsmithFeb 15 12:36:08 openstackctrl dnsmasq-dhcp[2551]: DHCPREQUEST(br100)12:36
mattsmithFeb 15 12:36:08 openstackctrl dnsmasq-dhcp[2551]: DHCPACK(br100) 10.90.128.5012:36
mattsmithbut thats about it12:37
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itarchitectkevmattsmith, you should see lots of nova messages if you've configured logging properly13:02
itarchitectkevits very chatty, even when not in verbose/debug modes13:03
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itarchitectkevhow was this installed?13:03
itarchitectkevwhat version of ubuntu? What version of OpenStack?13:04
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crazedhm what am i doing wrong here14:17
crazedquantum net-update --shared=False --tenant_id=62b31fa8598a443487d99a79b6ba5547 7a97d46f-d0b7-43e2-90cc-f9be5960886914:17
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crazeddamn tenant_id is readonly14:18
crazednvm14:18
zykes-ello :)14:18
zykes-getting your stuff to work crazed ?14:18
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crazedzykes-: yeah much better now14:23
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crazednow it's just "wait i just want this project to access this network"14:23
crazedbefore i just made them shared14:23
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crazedbut i think i'm passed the technical problems14:24
crazedovs works much better with a newer kernel14:24
crazeddefault el6 one is too old/buggy when it comes to vlans apparently14:25
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smoseri'm sure i'm doing something stupid, but I'm trying to do devstack inside openstack (or inside ec2)14:33
smoserhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1657921/14:33
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smoseri suspect i understand the issue, (see comments there) but i dont know of a way to fix it.14:34
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smoserclarkb, you're doing something like i'm trying ?14:39
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sorensmoser: golfing, huh?14:45
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smosersoren, i have a danish friend who is a famous golfer14:46
smoseri think i've discussed this with you once before actually.14:46
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sorensmoser: I don't think so. Must have been someone else.14:47
soren!14:47
soren:p14:47
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smosereventually, my instance (host) did come back, but then running instances after that results in14:48
smoserhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1658006/14:48
smosersoren, i think i have talked with you. you led me to think that maybe i'd be ok if we set the bridge's MAC to be that of eth0.14:49
smoserbridge-utils-interfaces(5) bridge_hw14:49
smoserbut i dont know.14:49
smoserjust seems like i can't possibly be the only one who wants to do this.14:49
sorensmoser: Oh. I thought you meant that you had talked to me before about having a Danish friend who's a famous golfer. :D14:50
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sorenIt all makes much more sense now.14:50
smoserah... that must have been another soren i talked to about that.14:50
sorenI have problems debugging it based on a nova.conf. I'd be better at debugging it based on iptables-save output and whatnot.14:51
sorenBut not right now. I have a some sort of presentation to prepare.14:51
* soren sighs deeply14:51
smoseri have other things i should be working on too14:51
dmiweird :-/ dnsmasq seems to occasionally stop giving out addresses14:52
* dmi sighs14:52
smoserso maybe i'll just do that then.14:52
sorensmoser: Enjoy.14:52
nonchalantohello, yesterday i first heard about this project and i am very interested. right now still trying to understand all the pieces. I am a bit confused by the resource pool concepts..with Compute, can one server make use of cpus on another server?14:53
nonchalantolike grid computing?14:54
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chmoueldolphm_: ping15:02
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dolphm_chmouel: pong15:02
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gminonchalanto:no, each server runs virtual machines that uses resources local to that server (CPU, RAM, network) but disk can be shared between multiple compute servers15:03
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nonchalantoso its purely about sharing disks? i was just reading about cinder/swift15:03
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EVegamorning anyone around to help?15:05
nonchalantogmi: my only point of mental reference is using citrix xen center15:05
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EVegai am having issues with some netowkring15:05
mkollarowhom should I contact if I find a bug in the swift devel documentation?15:06
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gminonchalanto: xen center allows you to manage multiple xypervisors the same way vcenter does; openstack is a mix of multiple projects that do different things15:08
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nonchalantogmi: yeah, i finally found a decent presentation...so please let me know if i understand this correctly...  this really just polishes off a more basic xypervisor system into something that is just much much more fault tolarant (than local raids)15:10
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nonchalanto(please take my extreme over simplification with the grain of salt it is)15:10
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gminonchalanto: well, you are close but reading this will get you closer: http://padgeblog.com/2012/10/08/hav-vs-cloud/15:12
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nonchalantothank you very much15:12
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EVegaI am having a problem where i cannot ssh between vms on difference hosts using their fixed ips. Can anyone help?15:19
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gmiEVega: can you ping? do you get a correct arp entry?15:20
EVegaping fails as well15:20
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EVegagmi: how do you see the arp entry15:21
EVegagmi thanks for trying to help me15:21
gmiEVega: arp -an15:21
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EVegagmi: on the vm itself i see ? (10.90.0.3) at e0:db:55:05:c9:3d [ether] on eth015:22
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EVegagmi: 10.90.0.3 is the fixed ip of the host that vm is running on15:23
gmiEVega: does the MAC e0:db:55:05:c9:3d belong to the other VM you're pinging?15:23
EVegagmi: nope15:23
EVegagmi: i can ping/ssh all machines that belong to same host15:23
gmiEVega: what openstack version are you running, what networking mode?15:23
EVegagmi: its when i go to another host. I am runing Folsom, FlatDHCP, I have openstack-nova, openstack-networking, and openstack-api running in each host15:24
EVegagmi: i have set multi_host to true15:25
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EVegagmi: and created the network with multi_host=T15:25
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gmiEVega: you can tcpdump on the receiving VM, check iptables rules to see if traffic is blocked, check the switch ports to make sure they belong to same vlan, there are many places where the issue might be and you have to check them all15:27
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EVegagmi: they are part of the same vlan. I will tcpdump15:29
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eschnouhi all, my openstack refuses to create a new instance, telling me I've maxed out 10/10 but I have only 2 instances running. Any idea on how to debug ?15:29
eschnouI've restarted all services, but did not help.15:30
gmieschnou: check the quita_usages in the nova database for that project and see how many instances are reported there; check the instances tables and see if there are instances that you think are deleted but they are not15:31
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eschnougmi, I'll look into the db. when I do nova list I see only 2 instances.15:32
eschnougmi, in the database, I see 2 instances in use and 8 reserved. What does reserved means ?15:33
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EVegagmi: what should i see in iptables15:35
EVegagmi: or maybe not see15:35
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gmieschnou: not sure, afaik this comes from the AWS EC2 compatibility layer, I don't think you can actually reserve instances in Openstack, but I assume the instances not yet confirmed as started but in progress are put in "reserved" state; if an instance fails to properly start though, it might still be left in that "reserved" state; again, this is just an assumption and hopefully somebody else will correct me15:37
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spendleHas there been a change to novnc for Grizzly?  Just installed, install worked cleanly, but no there's no service by the name of novnc.  Something change?15:41
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gmiEVega: on the host where the instance you ping runs you should see a chain for that instance allowing traffic from source project_IP_range to destination 0.0.0.0/015:41
eschnougmi, thanks for the database tip, I did reset the values in the db manually for the 'reserved' count and it seems I can now get going...15:42
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gmieschnou: keep an eye on it15:43
eschnougmi, yup, but weird, i can't get any info on this 'reserved' count on the web.15:44
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notmynamemkollaro: dev docs bugs can be filed at https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift15:48
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gmieschnou: you have to read the code in "/usr/share/pyshared/nova/quota.py"15:50
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eschnougmi, will do, thanks !15:52
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drcursora simpler question now :) - in puppetlabs-apache , is there a way to define ssl_path per virtual host? or even change it as a global without changing the manifests/params.pp file ?15:53
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EVegagmi: looks like tcpdump isnt getting anything when pinging from another host16:09
EVegaso i guess it must be iptables.....16:09
mkollaronotmyname: thank you :)16:10
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gmiEVega: yeah, you have to make sure the traffic leaves the first host on the right interface, check the routing table, do some network troubleshooting16:11
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nonchalantogmi: you are awesome..that article really helped16:28
nonchalantothanks again!16:28
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EVegagmi: thanks for you help I am going to have to get back to that later16:29
gminonchalanto:welcome16:29
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Birk_I'm getting a "nbd unavailable: module not loaded" error when trying to spawn new instances, What can it be?16:29
FlorianOtelzykes-, You here ?16:30
Birk_looks like this command is failing: " sudo nova-rootwrap guestmount --rw -a /var/lib/nova/instances/instance-00000001/disk -i /tmp/openstack-disk-mount-tmpcpudwd"16:30
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FlorianOtelDoes anyone know  where / how "router" interfaces are created for the Quantum L3 agent when "use_namespaces = False" in  Quantum "l3_agent.ini" ?16:31
zykes-FlorianOtel: yah!16:31
gmiBirk_:is ndb loaded?16:32
FlorianOtelzykes-, Thx :). See my above Q16:32
Birk_gmi: how can I see it?16:32
gmiBirk_: lsmod | grep nbd16:32
Birk_gmi: nop, nothing returns.16:32
Birk_gmi: how can I load it ?16:33
gmiBirk_: is nova-compute running? if you check the init script "/etc/init/nova-compute.conf" you will see that the nbd module is loaded when that service starts16:34
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Birk_gmi: I'll take a look, thanks16:35
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gmiFlorianOtel:I don't use namespaces and I use VLANs (not GRE); there are qr- interfaces that get created on the nova-network node and added to the br-int openvswitch, but I had to add in the l3_agent.ini the correct router_id and gateway_id16:37
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gmiinteresting what Ericsson is doing with Openstack: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/02/13/ericsson_openstack_kvm_telcos/16:57
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sc68calgmi: awesome link17:03
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dmiok, I'm having some really bizarre issues with networking and my VMs17:08
dmiat a low level, the connection seems to be getting stopped17:10
zykes-dmi: ok, care to elaborate please ?17:10
dmiweirdly, leaving it overnight fixed the issue17:10
dmiso, in more detail (although I'll explain the OS setup in a moment)...17:10
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dmiI'm trying to ssh from my machine (L) to the VM (V)17:10
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dminow, V can talk to the host, the internet, everything17:11
dmiL can ping V successfully17:11
dmiV can ssh to L17:11
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dmibut L can't ssh to V17:11
dmithe port is open in the security group17:11
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dmiand tcpdump shows the following:17:11
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dmitcpdump on L sees the SYN (L->V), SYN/ACK (V->L), ACK (L->V)... then a moment later, it sees FIN/ACK (L->V) and nothing more17:12
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dmitcpdump on V sees the SYN (L->V), SYN/ACK (V->L), ACK (L->V), and V pushing initial data... followed by the FIN/ACK (L->V) and then its own FIN/ACK (V->L)17:13
gmidmi: try to ssh with "-v"17:13
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dmigmi: with all the -v in the world (max debug level, which I think is debug3)... http://paste.openstack.org/show/31483/17:15
dmi(and then it just hangs indefinitely17:15
dmi)17:15
dmi"netstat -anpt | grep :22" shows that netstat thinks the connection is ESTABLISHED17:15
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gmidmi: I suppose you can ssh from L to another server, correct?17:26
dmigmi: correct17:26
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dmiand other machines act the same way when trying to SSH to V17:26
gmidmi: can you telnet to port 22 of V ?17:26
dmiexcept for the VM host and other VMs17:26
dmigmi: exhibits the same behaviour17:27
dmiinterestingly, if I stop the ssh service I get the "connection refused" error immediately17:27
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dmiargh, but nc works17:28
dmiso it seems to be some SSH Weirdness (with a capital W)17:28
dmihmm, although17:28
dmiit looks like only the first packet or two get through17:28
gmidmi: if you telnet twice, is the second telnet session successfull? I'm thinking maybe some layer 2 issue or STP recalculation causes the port to stop accepting traffic17:29
dmioh, my mistake17:29
dmigmi: telnet simultaneously17:29
dmi?17:29
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gmidmi: you telnet from V to port 22, the telnet session freezes, and then you telnet again from a separate session17:31
gmidmi: you telnet from L to V on port 22, the telnet session freezes, and then you telnet again from a separate session17:32
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dmiit says "connected" both times, but I get no SSH banner17:32
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dmimore strangeness: running nc between the two (listening on V, connecting from L) will send the first couple of lines, and then nothing else17:33
dmi... including ctrl-D on the L side (which should close the connection)17:33
dmiUNTIL I kill nc on the L side with ctrl-C17:33
dmiat which point, all the data appears at V17:34
dmiit's not that V is hanging though, as I'm hitting return a few times between received data on its side17:34
idreuserHello:  I have deployed Nova Essex distribution on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.  I have one controller node which runs everything including nova-network and nova-compute, but my compute node only runs nova-network and nova-compute.   VM on the controller node can ping outside world, but not the VM on the compute node.   I have pasted some informatio here http://paste.openstack.org/show/31488/17:34
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gmiidreuser: did you enable ip forward on the compute node?17:40
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idreuserroot@node1:~# sysctl -p net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1   (If this is what you meant I did.)17:41
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idreuserroute -n on my compute node is showing17:41
idreuserroot@vmoac:~# route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface 0.0.0.0         192.168.100.5   0.0.0.0         UG    100    0        0 eth0 192.168.100.0   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth017:42
idreuserIt is not able to ping 192.168.100.1 where as the VM on the controller node can.17:42
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idreuserMy compute node has br100 address 192.168.100.5 and the controller node has 192.168.100.3  The VM running on the compute node can ping 192.168.100.3, but not 192.168.100.1.17:45
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idreusergmi:  I am running nova-network on the compute node as well.  If I don't run nova-network on the compute node I was getting network error.17:46
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gmiidreuser: what is 192.168.100.1 ? can you paste your full nova.conf from both servers after you cleanup confidential info?17:48
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idreusergmi:  192.168.0.1 is a NAT machine through which compute node can go out.  All my machines are in the subnet 192.168.0.0/24.   My compute nodes can ping 192.168.0.1, but not the VM that is running on it. I will pastet the nova.conf shortly.17:50
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idreusergmi: http://paste.openstack.org/show/31489/   Here is the paste of /etc/nova/nova.conf on both controller node and compute node17:54
gmiidreuser: that route you pasted above comes from your VM, not from your compute node as you said; I have to go for lunch but I think your "routing_source_ip" value on the compute node is wrong17:55
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idreusergmi:  Let me know how I can fix it when you come back from lunch.17:56
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gmiidreuser: your controller'17:58
idreusergmi: yes, the route -n output is coming from the VM and not from the compute node itself17:58
gmiidreuser: you controller's IP address is 192.168.0.2 ?17:59
idreusergmi: my controller node ip is 192.168.0.217:59
gmiidreuser: and your compute node?17:59
idreusergmi: my comput node ip is 192.168.0.3  (eth0)17:59
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gmiidreuser: then change "routing_source_ip=192.168.0.3" on nova.conf on your compute node and restart nova-network on that node18:00
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idreusergmi: Let me try that.18:01
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idreusergmi: I am waiting for the smiley face to come back after I stopped the nova-network and nova-compute on the compute node.18:04
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mynameisdeletedso.. java with huge runtime library and waste memory within windows within ineficient virtualmachine with emulated disk and emulated network, on an overprovisioned host18:06
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mynameisdeletedoverprovisioning the host... like on amazon.. results in 50% performance decease.. using low-grade rather than containers based or bare-metal cloud... another 50% performance decrease18:07
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idreusergmi:  Thanks a million, it works now.18:07
idreuserroot@vmoac:~# ping 192.168.0.1 PING 192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_req=1 ttl=63 time=0.283 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_req=2 ttl=63 time=0.195 ms18:07
mynameisdeletedusing java as a language within windows instead of somethign lihter weight .. another 50% decrease... overall inovation cost of modernization 1/8th performance18:07
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gmiidreuser: glad it works, I'm out for lunch18:08
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idreusergmi: Thank you very much.  I was stuck here!  Thanks a lot for your help.18:08
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mynameisdeletedI think 10 container based customers per cpu-core with 4GB per customer running standard apache (rathe rthan jboss) runnong on containers-based system can do a lot better than what many corperations are implimenting for their cloud18:09
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mynameisdeletedI just keep seeing business after business port their website to java and move it to the cloud and afterwards it crashes due to java memory leaks every week and runs slowly18:10
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mynameisdeletedand they were better off with their ancient p4 colleciton of servers18:10
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mynameisdeletedkvm with pasthrough drivers on network and disk etc can be close to container speed right?18:12
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mynameisdeletedlinux people will tell you there is a huge performance hit for using mount -o loop on a filesystem so I'd imagine anythign using a disk image instead of the hosts filesystem is slower18:13
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voxeorobhaving trouble getting the rcbops chef cookbook to even install the controller..  always complains about: "Can't connect to MySQL server on '0.0.0.0'"18:15
mynameisdeletedusing a partition on a high performance solid-state drive could be no overhead18:15
mynameisdeletedwith virtio driver18:15
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voxeoroblooks like it is trying to install mysql client before its even installed the server18:16
voxeorobusing master branch18:16
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warikI have a weird issue  went using rabbit_host=IP, it won't connect with the ip but it will connect with a hostname.. do you guys have the same behavior? (It's not a  blocker for me, i just wanted to know if someone else has this problem) thanks18:27
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acb__hi, is there a way to say that this compute image should use e1000 network driver?18:55
acb__for example for win2008r2 can I set that image should always use e1000 driver instead of virtio?18:55
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rainyaz00dax, that number i just sent is a freeconferencecall.com number, so is busy19:10
z00daxrainya: hey, I'm on that second number now19:12
crazedin quantum, how do you reserve IP space? example being i have vrrp-e routers, so i need the first three IPs in the network to not be used by quantum19:12
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roueWe're running essex on ubuntu 12.04. Suddenly we're seeing novo-api failures. This morning I can't log into the dashboard. it says "Unable to retrieve usage information." nova list returns "ERROR: n/a (HTTP 401)" . I tried restarting nova-api and keystone,  but I'm not sure where to look next.19:26
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MooingLemurprometheanfire: I'm the submitter of gentoo bugs 457600 and 457628.  I've discovered something else that needs to be fixed.  The swift init.d scripts don't start any of the replicators/updaters/auditors/etc, and the start-stop-daemons don't seem to save the pid file for some reason.  For now, I'm essentially doing what the init from the old openstack overlay does.  I'll attach my suggested init scripts to 457628 unless you'd prefer I ...19:28
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MooingLemur... create a new bug for it.19:28
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prometheanfireMooingLemur: neat :D19:31
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prometheanfireMooingLemur: adding the init scripts to the existing bug sounds good19:31
prometheanfireMooingLemur: what about the functests with pyxattr?19:31
MooingLemurI'm very light on python experience, so I'm not sure what that is.19:32
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prometheanfireMooingLemur: at the bottom http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/development_saio.html19:33
prometheanfireMooingLemur: just search for func19:33
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MooingLemurprometheanfire: this is a live and functioning instance.  I'm in the process of upgrading the storage nodes from 1.7.4 (from the overlay) to 1.7.6 (from the main tree).19:35
MooingLemurfunctests would clear the instance?19:35
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MooingLemurI have 2 out of 4 storage nodes successfully updated to 1.7.6, 1 out of 4 is still on 1.7.4, and 1 is down for the upgrade.19:37
MooingLemurthe proxy nodes are already done.19:37
prometheanfireMooingLemur: I'll be adding 1.7.7 with the fix probably19:38
prometheanfirenice though :D19:38
prometheanfirenow that someone is actually using it I'll have to work on it more :P19:38
MooingLemurheh :)19:39
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rainyattx, here?19:40
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prometheanfireMooingLemur: are you not going to be able to run the functests (if not I can run it, just need to redeploy my saio instance).19:52
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gregmarkcrazed: you just keep them out of your allocation pool19:54
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MooingLemurprometheanfire: mmm, I guess I'd need to USE=test for emerging swift then?  If this is something that'd benefit being run on a production instance, I can do it. (I'm not sure how destructive these tests are)  Otherwise I can set up a SAIO myself.  It might not be today though.20:00
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prometheanfiredon't know if test does anything atm lol20:00
prometheanfiretest only does unit tests20:00
prometheanfirefunctests requires a running setup20:00
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MooingLemurit doesn't appear the .functests stuff got installed though.  I can't find that filename.20:01
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prometheanfireya, you may have to check out git for it20:02
prometheanfiredunno :|20:02
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prometheanfireI can test later20:03
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MooingLemurthanks, sorry :|20:04
prometheanfirenp20:04
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MooingLemurI should set up a vm though for this.20:05
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MooingLemurrollbackable snapshots and such20:05
prometheanfireyarp20:05
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prometheanfireit would be good to test against it before deploy20:05
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MooingLemurthis is technically a qa instance, but it's semi-production anyway20:05
prometheanfireaways is20:06
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mutexhi20:11
mutexI seem to be struggling with my openstack installation20:11
mutexthe controller seems to be having struggles talking to the compute nodes20:11
mutexeven though they can all ping each other20:12
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mutexis there a process I can start debuggin to understand what has gone wrong ?20:12
mutexI have already enabled DEBUG log in nova.conf20:12
mutex"host 'axs1-cn-1': free_ram_mb:27528 free_disk_mb:1721344 is disabled or has not been heard from in a while"20:13
mutexI get that for all my compute nodes20:13
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mutexmy nova-manage shows nova-network running for all my compute nodes20:16
mutexbut nova-compute is all XXX20:16
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gmimutex: anything in the nova-compute logs?20:24
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erkuleskeystone service-create does nothing more than creating a row in the database? If so my deploy-scripts could be a lot easier :)20:44
petenerdi have a question about Glance... i'm trying to use the Chef recipes to install it, but it's bombing out on the --silent-upload argument.20:45
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yocumquick question - after changing novncproxy_base_url in nova.conf, what service do I need to restart for this change to take place? (changed it to fqdn instead of IP)20:52
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crazedto protect passwords, is the only service that needs SSL keystone?21:19
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annegentlecrazed: you may want SSL to protect data going over the wire for object storage for example21:21
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crazedah true, i don't have swift currently21:22
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crazedbut what about the nova API21:22
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crazedanything to be worried about there?21:22
annegentlecrazed: hm, really depends on your use case and paranoia level I suppose21:23
crazeduse case is an entirely internal cluster21:23
crazedparanoia level is just with username/passwords21:23
crazedsince i plan to hook it into ldap21:23
annegentlecrazed: like do you users care if the names of their servers can be seen21:23
crazedno21:23
annegentlecrazed: yeah then you're fine as far as I know21:23
annegentlecrazed: I'm no security expert :)21:24
crazedwell yeah21:24
crazedi just wanted toknow what kind of data goes to the various services21:24
crazedand as far as i know teh only one that gets your password in plain text is keystone21:24
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dimscrazed, Tokens generated by keystone can be used to access different services and they do live for a few hours21:26
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notmynamecrazed: most (all?) the openstack projects use an API token for authorizing requests. these need to be protected as well, otherwise a user can be impersonated until the token expires21:27
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crazeddamn that was what i was worried about21:28
crazedthe API token actually isn't such a huge issue for me21:28
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crazedat least right now21:28
crazedif i hook into ldap, the passwords would be the same as the system logins21:28
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notmynamecrazed: ya, it depends on your deployment details etc. eg, I wouldn't use a public openstack service without SSL21:30
crazedif one developer wants to impersonate another developer by stealing their token that's fine, but definitely can't be letting them get passwords21:30
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notmynamecrazed: I don't care if I know your password if I can make calls to an openstack service as you21:30
crazednotmyname: i was mentioning that keystone would be tied to ldap, which ldap can be used to login to servers21:31
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crazedthis is entirely internal21:31
notmynameya21:31
notmynameis it possible to inject data on a VM with a nova API call?21:32
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notmynameeg could I add my key to your server (which may in turn have credentials on in for the ldap system)?21:32
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crazedno, i mean you could spin up a new instance with some userdata, but that's about it21:33
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notmynamecrazed: and so I could create my own VM on your trusted network. seems like a pretty good place from which to attack other system. basically, unless you can trust the network, I don't think there is any reason to not use SSL21:35
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crazedwell of course, i believe ssl is a good thing to have, but i have to start somewhere21:38
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crazedthe most critical for the time being is keystone21:38
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prometheanfireMooingLemur: you have not updated the bug :P21:52
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petenerdi can't get glance to respond, i keep getting errno 111 connection refused22:33
petenerdanyone have any ideas?22:33
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vishypetenerd: have you tried using --debug22:35
vishyand verifying that it is actually using the right ip / port22:35
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gregmarkALL:running Folsom on 12.10. nova list returns an empty list despite having VMs launched.  This must be a common problem with a simple fix, right?22:41
petenerd<vishy> i'll try it.22:42
gregmarkI'm having problems with metadata-api on the compute hosts... related?... hrm....22:43
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vishygregmark: my guess is instances are running as a different tenant then you are running nova list with22:58
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r3d64rhi!23:29
r3d64rwould this be the right channel to inquire about swift devel installation?23:30
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notmynamer3d64r: it's a good place to start. what's your question?23:31
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r3d64rI am trying to get my system setup with the swift all-in-one devel guide, and had some questions23:33
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r3d64rif he only knew that this world has seem it better days! :)23:34
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r3d64rtowards the top of the installation document reference is made to username:groupname swift:swift, but that username and group did not get created for me when follwing those instruction23:36
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bodepdanyone ever tried to run tempest ./run_tests.sh without -N ?23:38
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notmynamer3d64r: for the SAIO (ie for dev purposes) it's normally easier to use your own user id and group23:38
notmynamer3d64r: but yes there are some places where the SAIO docs should be updated23:38
bodepdthe venv stuff doesnt seem to install a few required package, which is confusing. wasn't sure if I was doing something wrong23:39
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r3d64rI am new to swift, so I am having a hard time trying to fleshout what is assumed in that document23:39
alex88hi guys, how could I gracefully shutdown all vm of a server?23:40
notmynamer3d64r: are you trying to learn, contribute patches, set up a POC? what's your goal. I may be able to point you at better stuff23:40
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r3d64rI am trying to setup the exact samething that the SAOI document describes, it sounds like it has exactly what I need to test my development23:41
r3d64rAll's I need is a local method to send data to these object store, much in the same way I am doing it atm using S3 storage23:42
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notmynamer3d64r: the SAIO is mostly for doing swift dev work. it simulates several (4) servers in one VM. it's ok for testing against, but a test target could be a little simpler.23:43
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r3d64rhow do I go about setting up a test target?23:44
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alex8812.04 repos are still on essex right?23:45
notmynamer3d64r: if you are looking for more technical info, http://swiftstack.com/openstack-swift/ has a lot of good content. also, you could look at something like devstack.23:45
r3d64rthanks, I will give it a try23:45
notmynamer3d64r: I'm going to be writing up some better docs (and maybe publishing a VM) for swift as a test target within the next month. but I don't have that now23:45
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notmynamer3d64r: for today, looking at the SAIO, do you have any specific questions I can help answer?23:46
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r3d64rthe username:group did not get created, I got passed it by manually creating them. Does not present a problem?23:47
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notmynamer3d64r: you could use your own user id or group. or manually create the swift user and group. it doesn't matter what you run swift as.23:49
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r3d64rok thanks, but I have two more points which are unclear to me. In the section labeled: Getting the code and setting up the test environment23:50
r3d64rWhen you say "Do these commands as you on guest" I did not understand that, are you making reference to the ubuntu VM above?23:51
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notmynamer3d64r: it just means to not do it at root23:52
notmynames/at/as23:52
r3d64rooh thanks, on the same VM, I assume23:53
notmynameya, in this case, there is only the one VM (ie the "guest")23:53
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r3d64rok, and one last question, the next section "Configuring each node"23:54
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r3d64rYou pointout that "Sample config files are provided with all defaults in line-by-line comment", I was configured by that also :(23:56
r3d64rconfigured=confused23:56
notmynamer3d64r: all the sample configs are in the codebase https://github.com/openstack/swift/tree/master/etc23:57
notmynamer3d64r: the defaults are given but commented out23:57
notmynamer3d64r: any value not commented out is required (and you'll have to provide your own values)23:58

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