Thursday, 2013-02-14

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warikis that error talking to anyone?  Class LibvirtDriver could not be found: 'module' object has no attribute 'LibvirtDriver'01:45
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fedgoatwhat is the preferred method for sharing block storage across multiple controllers over iscsi?  GFS2?02:46
fedgoatmultiple compute nodes i should say..not controllers02:47
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fedgoator is it better to just use NFS?  has there been much performance testing  NFS vs ISCSI+GFS2  I've got 10G nics to the san setup in an active/active controller setup on a NetApp San   Any recommendations or advice?02:49
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fed007HI04:42
fed007I am going to install openstack ....04:43
fed007and have a question about hardware for a specific usecas04:43
fed007usecase04:43
fed007Ideally I am going to be launching several hundred small webapps and will be doing this on an all in one...04:44
fed00732 cores04:44
fed007128 GB rAM04:44
fed007The question is if the local Hard drive I/O will be the bottleneck for these many applications?04:45
fed007or is the I/O performance better to distribute the block storage ...04:45
fed007each app will only be a couple gig04:46
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fed007so local image and storage is enough in magnitude04:46
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ccssnetinteresting, no kvm support on openstack?05:05
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ccssnetalso from the looks of it this is not that usefull of a script (devstack), well whatever good luck05:08
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bodepdtempest question if anyone is around...07:38
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spicewieseldid anyone here ever get the metadata server working with quantum/vswitch?09:04
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zykes-spicewiesel: yeh, but a bit of a hacked solution09:05
spicewieselzykes-: so you did it with many manually done routes from metadata back to the vm?09:06
zykes-spicewiesel: nope :)09:06
zykes-deployed latest quantum testing packages that has a "metadata" proxy09:06
spicewieselahhh ok :)09:06
zykes-and modified nova code slightly09:06
zykes-let me see if I can find you the blog post09:07
spicewieselok, so there is no way to do that in production at the moment :)09:07
zykes-http://cloudistic.me/blog/hacking-together-metadata-support-when-using-folsom-with-grizzly-quantum/ < this09:08
zykes-spicewiesel: quantum trunk packages works pretty ok09:08
spicewieselzykes-: nice, thanks09:08
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zykes-be warned though, it doesn't come with a warranty spicewiesel :)09:09
zykes-but I've gotten it to work here09:09
spicewieselhehe09:09
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norris900anyone have any knowledge of openstack load spikes?10:19
norris900I seem to get them most days across all nodes at different times10:20
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norris900I cant see a cause in any of my logs and i dont know where to begin tracking down whats causing them10:22
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norris900well i shall create my own scripted solution then, monitoring is a pita10:41
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kryptoWill it be possible to get AWS  EC2 templates and use that for creating instances on my private cloud11:27
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dmiargh, I'm having trouble :(11:41
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dmiit used to work and now it doesn't, and I have no idea what changed11:41
* dmi sighs11:41
dmifolsom, quantum, openvswitch, everything on a single host11:42
dmithe guests send DHCPDISCOVER, the host sees it and replies, but the guests never see the reply11:42
dmitcpdump on the guest shows no reponse11:42
dmithough they see DHCPDISCOVER broadcasts from other hosts on the same network11:43
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dmiiptables and ebtables have no specific DROP rules11:49
dmiovs-ofctl shows no drop actions either11:49
dmiIP forwarding is enabled11:49
dmi... I'm lost as to what to try next :(11:49
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fedgoatAnyone have any insight on using shared storage with multiple compute nodes over iscsi?  Has much testing been done on using GFS2 vs CLVM  or what is the preferred method or performance benchmarks over NFS?13:37
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fedgoatWhat is preferred for a live migration setup on a shared SAN?  anyone?13:38
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foexleheyho guys13:57
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foexleany working with grizzly (keystone+swift) ? .... I've a problem with authentication of a user; keystone log looks good; but swift are not working correctly i think: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1650988/14:00
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foexleit seems like any ssl errors .... but i don't use in this case ssl. Not in keystone or in swift14:01
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sstentanyone else had "deleted instacnes" showing up as active in horizon (specifically the project overview usage table)14:44
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dmican anyone help with dnsmasq?15:08
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dmiI can't figure out why it's never sending the DHCPOFFER packet15:09
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dmitcpdump on the host shows nothing going out, despite the dnsmasq logs saying otherwise15:09
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gmidmi: can you put in pastebin the following: "ip link show" "ip a" "route -n" "ovs-vsctl show" and "ovs-appctl fdb/show br-eth1" from the network node, and also specifiy what's the name of the tap interface dnsmasq listens on?15:11
dmiworking on it, cheers gmi15:12
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dmigmi: http://paste.openstack.org/show/31318/15:17
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dmiI also included the /var/log/messages lines from dnsmasq, and the result of tcpdump on the network node15:19
dmiwell, on the node running dnsmasq15:19
dmi(it's all on the same system)15:19
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gmidmi: why do you have two tap interfaces with the same ip address?15:19
dmithat's... a good question15:20
dmihow would I kill one?15:20
gmidmi: did you create it or it's a leftover?15:20
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dmididn't create it myself15:21
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dmiwhat would cause it to be left over?15:23
gmidmi: ovs-vsctl del-port br-int tape8deda92-c415:23
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dmidone15:24
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gmidmi: if you look in the routing table, that interface comes first so I think the dhcpreply was being sent there15:24
dmi... and that makes it magically work :-/15:24
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dmiI presumed the reply would be sent back on the same interface as it was received15:25
dmibut what's really weird is why there are two :-/15:25
dmiany suggestions as to what would have caused that to happen?15:25
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gmidmi: no, the routing table would be consulted; another useful command is "ovs-appctl bridge/dump-flows br-int" which will show you the flows, how traffic comming on a internal interface gets the vlan modified from let's say vlan 50 to the internal vland ID used by the tap interface (e.g. tag: 1)15:27
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dmigmi: yeah, I'd looked at the flows via ovs-ofctl dump-flows br-int15:27
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gmidmi: I would say Quantum is still pretty experimental...you might this bug at some moment https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=877704 and this one when you reboot https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/108435515:29
gmidmi: I meant you might hit those bugs15:30
dmiok15:30
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norris900sstent are you still around?15:34
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dmigmi: thanks for the warnings; I'll keep an eye out15:36
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Sam__Seeing a problem in Grizzly Horizon (dev) where it's producing an error that says - '15:43
Sam__module' object haas no attribute quantum'15:44
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Sam__Just did an update today and still have the problem.15:44
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Sam__Any ideas?15:44
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jpichSam__: did it start recently?15:45
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Sam__I had a version of horizon that worked about a week ago.  This is a new installation (this week) that has this problem.15:45
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kbringarddo you run quantum? and if not (or even if so) do you have the quantum stuff disabled in the local_settings.py?15:47
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Sam__Yes, I run a quantum setup.  I've tried to run horizon with "QUANTUM_ENABLED"  set to both True and False.  Can't get rid of this error.15:48
Sam__(in local_settings.py)15:49
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kbringardhmm, seems like it's probably bug15:54
jpichSam__: I wonder if it could be a side-effect of a recent review, if you have a bit of time now could you try changing the file openstack_dashboard/api/__init__.py to this: https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/dbfcc97e899417a0c1838a7b976b27e499b858ff/openstack_dashboard/api/__init__.py . I'll set up a current devstack in a bit and have a look as well15:54
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Sam__Installed that file...  (previous __init__.py was blank).  That changed the error, but it still fails.16:03
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erkulesmoin, to my shame I don't understand openstack as good as I would. I would like to run openstack on lxc. The compute-node should be a kvm instance to create lxc-containers within. I wonder if glance is required, as I would like to create the containers on the local filesystem of the compute-node(kvm)16:04
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erkuless/would/should/16:05
Sam__Glance is the image repository for your compute nodes.  You want glance as this repository, so that your compute nodes can get images from anywhere in the infrastructure.16:07
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erkulesYes, is this a hardcoded requirement? With containers there should be no requierment to have images. A tarball is sufficient.16:08
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Sam__Ok...  Not sure what a container would do without an image.  Don't exactly know the answer to the "hardcoded requirement" question.16:12
erkulesokidoki thx16:12
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simon_lucyerkules: then something like OpenShift on top of OpenStack may be the quickest way to get lxc, but it does mean you get the whole PaaS thing16:29
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erkulessimon_lucy: uhh something to read up. Even prefering not to read more up :) thx16:33
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simon_lucyerkules: :-), you could also just trust openstack as that won't overcommit resources on the host16:35
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fedgoatAny recommendations for a clustered filesystem setup for using shared storage on a single NetAPP SAN across multiple compute nodes for Live Migration for nova instances?  Folsom Ubuntu setup.  Some sort of Pacemaker/DRBD Setup recommended?17:13
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sgranwhy wouldn't you use NFS off the netapp?17:16
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fedgoatI could use NFS, but is this preferred?  What about performance issues?17:20
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fedgoatalso for an HA setup wouldn't it be preferred to use a clustered managed file system rather than NFS17:22
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gmifedgoat: so you have a single netapp and you want to build a HA setup?17:25
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fedgoatgmi yes with an active/active controller setup  redundant 10G cisco nexus switches, dual 10G HBA's17:31
fedgoatmultipathing is setup on each compute node..i want to setup Live Migrations, and iscsi is already setup.  I just need to figure out file system options here, and if i go with NFS over iscsi or if i should even use iscsi at this point and go with a pacemaker/drbd type of setup instead17:33
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sgranyou're adding far too much complexity to this17:34
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gmifedgoat: it's still a single point of failure device located in a single location, but anyway, I would just go with NFS17:35
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fedgoatI plan on dropping in a second SAN eventually17:35
sgranthe netapp will do a far better job of serving NFS to you than you'll do of asking it to serve a block device over the network and then putting a network file system over top of that17:35
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fedgoatyea, that's what im trying to determine here.17:37
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warikAnyone here had issues with the metadata?17:39
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fedgoatmetadata connection is next on my list of things to figure out?think it has to do with iptables17:40
gmiwarik: generally speaking?17:40
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warikI have setup a folsom controller and a compute node, I am able to bring up instance but I can get an ip on it17:42
warikI can see the iptables rule17:42
warikon the compute node17:42
warikand It looks the same as my essex configuration17:42
wariki tried to do curl http://169.254.169.254, but it doesn't bring anything17:43
warikfedgoat, gmi: any ideas of hands?17:44
crazedhm... what would cause instances to be able to ping hosts but not actually connect to ports? security group is set to allow everything plus i'm fairly sure the quantum driver i'm using doesn't work with security groups anyway17:44
crazedi see tcpdump packets replying as well17:44
wariki am using nova-compute because i need multi_host17:44
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warikhmm nova-network17:44
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gmiwarik:did you say that the instance doesn't have an ip address?17:45
warikyes17:45
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gmiwarik:well, you need an IP to make network traffic17:45
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warikgmi: i don't follow you.. I sure need an ip address to be able to make network traffic17:47
wariklet me paste you the error msg17:48
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warikgmi: here is what i see when an instance come up:17:50
warikwget: can't connect to remote host (169.254.169.254): Network is unreachable17:50
gmiwarik: if your instance was not able to receive an IP address when it sent a dhcprequest, it will not be able to reach 169.254.169.254 as well; so you first have to fix the first issue, then take care of metadata17:50
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warikhere are the dhcp line in my nova.conf17:52
warikdhcpbridge_flagfile=/etc/nova/nova.conf17:53
warikdhcpbridge=/usr/bin/nova-dhcpbridge17:53
gmiwarik:17:53
warikdo i need anything more in Folsom / nova-network17:53
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gmiwarik: do you see anything in the nova-network.log?17:55
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warikgmi: not really no18:01
warikwhen I create an instance i can see 2 DEBUG msg18:01
warikthat's it18:01
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warikgmi: I use to see this error yesterday though:18:03
gmiwarik: do you see a lease for the instance in the dnsmasq config?18:03
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warikgmi: let me check that.  Here is    the old error I use to see in the log:  OperationalError: (OperationalError) (1054, "Unknown column 'fixed_ips.instance_id' in 'on clause'")18:05
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sgranthat sounds like you have some code that doesn't match your database18:06
sgranis this an upgrade?18:06
warikgmi: where do I check the dnsmasq config?18:06
gmiwarik:mda, that's a pretty ugly error and I hope you don't see it anymore ;(18:06
wariksgran: brand new18:06
wariki hope so18:06
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warikalthough! I don't have a row instance_id in fixed_ips?!18:07
warikin nova DB18:07
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gmiwarik: check "/var/lib/nova/networks" for the lease details18:08
warikshould i kick that nova DB and re-create a new one?18:08
sgranyes, that is what the error message is telling you18:08
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warikempty...18:08
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warikok, let me try to destroy / rebuild nova DB. and check again in a few. thanks gmi / sgran. I will let you know18:09
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NashTrashHello Stackers18:17
NashTrashI am getting a weird Swift error.18:18
NashTrashI wanted to remove one of my swift servers from serving any containers or accounts.18:18
NashTrashSo, I removed its devices from both rings, rebalanced and pushed the rings out.18:18
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NashTrashNow (an hour+ laterI see lots of errors saying stuff like "object-server ERROR container update failed with 192.168.56.15:6001/sdaj1"18:19
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NashTrashIt is like the rings (or maybe the object DBs?) still point to this server as having some data18:20
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NashTrashIf I run the dispersion report, it spews EONNREFUSED errors about 192.168.56.15:6001 too.18:21
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crazedwith openvswitch 1.7.3 and quantum, does it do any packet inspection?18:40
crazedseems my instances can't transfer large data, but pings and basic ssh work. as soon as the packet exceeds some size18:40
crazedall hell breaks lose18:40
crazedi don't have any custom MTU sizes in my network18:41
crazedjust the default18:41
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wariksgran / gmi: I deleted and re-create novaDB, I spun up an instance, but I still can't get an ip on that instance.18:49
warikvar/lib/nova/network is empty18:49
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gmiwarik: there has to be some errors in the logs; if you're running nova-network on the nova-compute node, do they show up as "happy" when you run "nova-manage service list" ?18:54
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julianlmy apologies, this is my first time using IRC. i'm trying to sign up for the openstack forum, but it says my ip is blacklisted. :(19:03
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julianlit looks like the blacklist service is not functioning when i click on more details. i think this is why i am showing as blacklisted. how can i resolve this?19:04
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julianlif i'm requesting this in the wrong place, can someone point me to the correct place pelase? i've tried to find a contact address on the forum, but there is none that i can find.19:08
clarkbreed: jeblair ^ who runs the forum?19:09
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reedclarkb, nobody, we're shutting them down soon19:11
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julianlah, ok. i have some questions about storage and vsphere integration - where's the best place to ask them?19:12
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reedjulianl, the General mailing list http://wiki.openstack.org/MailingLists19:12
reedforums are not even advertised :)19:12
julianlawesome, thank you very much :)19:12
julianlreddit sent me to the forums19:13
julianl:)19:13
julianli'll join the mailing list19:13
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julianlthank you reed and clarkb19:15
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crazedsgran: did you have any mtu problems caused by using vlans?19:41
sgrannope19:41
sgranare you doing something like dropping icmp somewhere ?19:42
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bwatsonHas anyone here run through the RedHat OpenStack install?19:44
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bwatsonI get maximum recursion depth errors when I try to create an admin user in keystone.19:45
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crazedsgran: no, it seems though to be related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/107533619:45
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crazedif i lower the mtu on my VMs i can transfer full data again19:46
crazedjust kind of hacky to have to do that19:46
sgranhmm, interesting19:46
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sgranI'll have to test tomorrow19:46
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crazedit could be the kernel in use on el619:47
crazedcombined with openvswitch19:47
crazedthere's a mention in the FAQ for ovs On Linux kernels before 2.6.39, maximum-sized VLAN packets may not be transmitted19:47
sgranWe're using --provider:network_type vlan, so maybe it doesn't hit us19:47
crazedi'm using network_type vlan as well19:48
sgranah, yeah, also we're on 3.2.019:48
crazedkernel 2.6.32-279.22.1.el6.x86_6419:48
sgranon the compute and controller hosts, anyway19:48
bwatsonAlso, are any of the openstack forum admins on here? For some reason the IP on my cablemodem was black listed, and I have no way to get in contact with anyone regarding it.19:48
crazedhm i bet that could be why19:48
sgranbwatson: the forums are unofficial and going away19:48
sgranI think everyone is blacklisted19:48
sgranyou can ask on #openstack-infra if you like19:49
bwatsonHaha, well that explains it then.19:49
bwatsonok, thanks for pointing me in the right direction.19:49
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sstentis there any way to reduce the number of API calls Horizon makes?20:03
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crazedonly workaroundn for the vlan mtu issue is to increase int-br-ext MTU to 155020:31
crazedreally anything higher than 150020:31
crazedwell not the only workaround, but it is one20:32
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gmicrazed: I'm curious, what speed did you see before you made these changes?20:43
crazedgmi: i didn't test any speed, but i noticed anthing that required a large packet transfer was failing20:44
crazedcurl www.yahoo.com vs curl www.google.com20:44
crazedwas what i used to test20:44
crazedyahoo's so bloated it doesn't load in small packets20:44
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crazedthe vlan headers are what put it over the edge20:46
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crazeddoes anyone know if the ovs plugin uses userspace datapath? i'm kind of new to ovs so i don't know how to check that20:47
crazedbut if so that's what would cause what i'm seeing20:47
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crazedguess it's time to roll my own kernel for centos20:47
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gmicrazed: I don't think the MTU had anything to do with your issue; MTU is only locally significant20:52
gmicrazed: try do to "curl www.yahoo.com20:52
gmifrom anywhere and it will fail20:52
gmicrazed: do instead a "wget www.yahoo.com" and it should work20:52
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crazedcurl www.yahoo.com doesn't fail from anywhere20:53
crazedbut it wasn't just curl20:53
crazedssh into an instance and run dmesg20:53
crazedit will hang because of mtu problems20:53
gmicrazed: I tested with iperf between two instances running on different compute nodes using VLAN mode with Quantum and I got around 600 Mbps on 1 Gb link20:53
crazedgmi: what kernel?20:54
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crazedon the compute nodes that is20:56
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skvidaltrying to get the ec2api working in folsom. I have it working for non-ssl. However, when I setup nginx to answer on ssl to proxypass to the non-ssl'd nova process20:59
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skvidalI get this error when I try to auth20:59
skvidal2013-02-14 19:23:54  WARNING [keystone.common.wsgi] Authorization failed. EC2 signature not supplied. from 127.0.0.121:00
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skvidalI've looked in the code but I can't find any obvious reason what would cause the signature to be stripped21:00
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smoseri've tried now with both 12.04 and 12.10, and instances launched from inside devstack cannot get to the general internet.21:11
smoseris that correct/expected?21:11
smoserie, can only get to the router and hsot.21:11
smoseri *swear* they used to be able to get out.21:11
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ppradhansmoser: i am having the same issue. are you using quantuam?21:12
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smosernot using quantum. (pretty sure)21:13
smoserENABLED_SERVICES=g-api,g-reg,key,n-api,n-crt,n-obj,n-cpu,n-net,n-cond,cinder,c-sch,c-api,c-vol,n-sch,n-novnc,n-xvnc,n-cauth,horizon,rabbit,tempest,$DATABASE_TYPE21:13
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smoser(i didn't change any of the services from the defaults)21:13
smoseri'm just launching an instance with: https://gist.github.com/smoser/479535821:14
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ppradhanok.. i have not tested nova-network  but with quatum it failed to go to internet21:14
smosersurely that seems unintended21:14
smoservishy, ^ youve' at least touched this recently, hopefully you can confirm or deny.21:15
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vishysmoser: you should be able to get out21:15
vishysmoser: i don't think i've broken it recently :(21:16
smoseri cannot.21:16
smoserwhat woudl you run on 12.04 or 12.10 ?21:16
vishysmoser: any idea if it is the outgoing packets or the return that are failing?21:16
vishyi run on 12.04 but my settings are not the default21:16
smoseri dont know which way its failing.21:17
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devoidis there a way for an admin to remove keypairs for a user within the API?21:27
crazedgmi21:28
crazedwhoops21:28
crazedsgran: fyi, upgraded to 3.7 kernel, problem solved21:28
crazedman so many small tweeks to get things going smoothly21:28
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vishysmoser: ok i will try a default run from trunk and see what is broken21:30
smoservishy, i just launched an instance.21:30
smoseri'll let you in21:30
vishysmoser: cool thx21:31
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smoserubuntu@15.185.178.12221:32
smoserdownloading images right now.21:32
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clarkbare you running devstack on an hpcloud VM? if so you do need to tweak networking slightly as what hp gives you conflicts with devstack defaults21:33
devoidas an alternate to my previous question, how can I add or remove keypairs from a user that is not a member of a tenant.21:33
clarkbsmoser: the FIXED_* variables from http://logs.openstack.org/21690/6/gate/gate-tempest-devstack-vm-postgres-full/2585/logs/localrc.txt.gz do this for the devstack-gate tests21:34
smoserhm.. clarkb well i ran initially on another cloud, but i didn't think that was the issue.21:34
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smoserthat could be the problem21:36
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vishysmoser: something odd is going on sudo nova-rootwrap /etc/nova/rootwrap.conf qemu-nbd -c /dev/nbd15 /opt/stack/data/nova/instances/instance-00000002/disk21:39
vishyth disk files aren't showing up21:39
vishybut i don't see an error message21:39
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smoservishy, well, i hadn't tried lxc in quite some time.21:39
smoserijust did it here because there is no netsted virt21:40
vishysmoser: well looks like lxc is bahroken21:41
vishy:)21:41
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smoserjoy21:45
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vishysmoser: mind if i rerun without lxc?21:48
smosergo for it.21:48
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vishysmoser: why did you set FLAT_INTERFACE ?21:49
vishythat is wrong21:49
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smoserluser error21:50
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rouehola21:50
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roueI'm running essex on ubuntu 12.04. Just today we started seeing an internal server error in horizon when we try to view the instances and volumes link for any given tenant. Not sure why. the nova api logs say that "GET http://172.24.156.51:8776/v1/da6ff2849751416f8dc44866cb1444c1/volumes/detail" is throwing an exception due to an unrecognized content type.21:51
roueI'm not sure where to look next.21:51
roueAppreciate any pointers. Thanks.21:51
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vishysmoser: fyi setting FLAT_INTERFACE to br100 would break external connectivity so i suspect that is your issue21:52
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smoser:)21:52
vishysmoser: * might break21:52
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vishysmoser: well that broke connectivity21:53
vishysmoser: sigh21:53
vishysmoser: i guess it failed to move the interface properly21:54
vishysmoser: ah i know the previous run created br100 but didn't add eth0 to the bridge21:54
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vishysmoser: do you have any way to reboot it?21:54
smoserjust did21:54
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smosershoot. and just fat-finged the up arrow and ran it again.21:56
smoser(rebooted)21:56
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vishysmoser: ok one more22:01
smoser:)22:01
vishysmoser: i think we need to change fixed and floating range22:01
smoserits back up22:02
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smoservishy, i have to run. thanks for your help, if you can poke at it and find somethign, great, if not i'll worry about it some other time.22:09
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warikonce in a while I am getting this: WARNING: fixed ip allocated to missing instance22:28
warikany ideas how to get rif of that ?22:29
warikrid22:29
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zykes-EmilienM: .22:54
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jab416171warik: can you unallocate the IP?23:19
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warikjab416171: what do you mean?23:36
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