| opendevreview | Wenping Song proposed openstack/election master: Adding Wenping Song candidacy for Cyborg https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/855105 | 01:31 |
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| *** dasm is now known as dasm|off | 02:00 | |
| opendevreview | zhurong proposed openstack/election master: Add Rong Zhu's candidacy for Solum PTL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/855006 | 03:27 |
| opendevreview | zhurong proposed openstack/election master: Add Rong Zhu's candidacy for Solum PTL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/855006 | 03:31 |
| opendevreview | zhurong proposed openstack/election master: Add Rong Zhu's candidacy for Murano PTL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/855007 | 03:32 |
| opendevreview | zhurong proposed openstack/election master: Add Rong Zhu's candidacy for Murano PTL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/855007 | 03:34 |
| opendevreview | chenker proposed openstack/election master: Add Ke Chen's candidacy for Watcher PTL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/855008 | 03:41 |
| opendevreview | chenker proposed openstack/election master: Add Ke Chen's candidacy for Watcher PTL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/855008 | 03:45 |
| *** pojadhav|out is now known as pojadhav|ruck | 04:59 | |
| opendevreview | Ke Niu proposed openstack/governance master: remove unicode prefix from code https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/854150 | 06:00 |
| opendevreview | gecong proposed openstack/election master: Add Cong Ge's candidacy for Freezer PTL (Antelope) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/855009 | 06:02 |
| opendevreview | gecong proposed openstack/election master: Add Cong Ge's candidacy for Freezer PTL (Antelope) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/855009 | 06:05 |
| opendevreview | Brendan Shephard proposed openstack/election master: Adding Brendan Shephard candidacy for Heat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/855119 | 06:07 |
| opendevreview | Brendan Shephard proposed openstack/election master: Adding Brendan Shephard candidacy for Heat PTL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/855119 | 06:08 |
| opendevreview | feng.shengqin proposed openstack/election master: Add FengShengqin's candidacy for ZUN PTL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/855130 | 06:12 |
| opendevreview | feng.shengqin proposed openstack/election master: Add FengShengqin's candidacy for ZUN PTL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/855130 | 06:25 |
| opendevreview | Pranali Deore proposed openstack/election master: Add Pranali Deore candidacy for Glance https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/855121 | 07:09 |
| opendevreview | wu.chunyang proposed openstack/election master: Adding wuchunyang candidacy for Trove https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/855034 | 08:28 |
| opendevreview | Vishal Manchanda proposed openstack/election master: Add Vishal Manchanda candidacy for Horizon PTL(Antelope) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/855159 | 10:12 |
| opendevreview | Vishal Manchanda proposed openstack/election master: Add Vishal Manchanda candidacy for Horizon PTL(Antelope) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/855159 | 10:14 |
| opendevreview | Pranali Deore proposed openstack/election master: Add Pranali Deore candidacy for Glance https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/855121 | 11:23 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/project-team-guide master: remove unicode from code https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-team-guide/+/851186 | 11:32 |
| opendevreview | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/election master: Sylvain Bauza candidacy for Antelope Nova PTL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/852630 | 12:21 |
| *** dasm|off is now known as dasm | 13:46 | |
| opendevreview | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/election master: Adding Rabi Mishra candidacy for TripleO PTL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/855210 | 14:22 |
| opendevreview | Matthias Runge proposed openstack/election master: Matthias Runge candidacy for aa Telemetry PTL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/855211 | 14:24 |
| opendevreview | Rodolfo Alonso proposed openstack/election master: Add Rodolfo Alonso candidacy for Neutron PTL (Antelope release) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/855212 | 14:35 |
| opendevreview | XueFengLiu proposed openstack/election master: Add XueFeng Liu candidacy for Senlin PTL in Antelope https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/855059 | 15:32 |
| ralonsoh | gmann, hi! can you help me with https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/855212 | 16:28 |
| ralonsoh | ? | 16:28 |
| ralonsoh | where should I be registered? | 16:28 |
| spotz | ralonsoh: It's on the foundation site hang on | 16:30 |
| spotz | https://openinfra.dev/join/ | 16:31 |
| ralonsoh | spotz, thanks! | 16:31 |
| spotz | Let me check one thing | 16:31 |
| ralonsoh | spotz, ok, I had my personal email there | 16:34 |
| ralonsoh | I've added my professional one | 16:34 |
| spotz | Ok yeah you're not a foundation member, I was checking to see if maybe just emails didn't match | 16:34 |
| spotz | Which is fine, you just have to match:) | 16:35 |
| ralonsoh | I hope is that ok if my professional mail is the second one | 16:35 |
| spotz | Let's recheck and see, the other fix is to jest change the email for the filename in your patch | 16:36 |
| ralonsoh | perfect | 16:37 |
| spotz | Thanks for running | 16:38 |
| gmann | ralonsoh: spotz that did not solve it. may be good to use the same email for filename too. | 16:48 |
| ralonsoh | yes, I've updated and confirmed the mail account now | 16:48 |
| ralonsoh | I'm rechecking now again | 16:48 |
| spotz | Oh gmann before I forget the winner for the PTG was set OPS Meetup hours | 16:50 |
| gmann | spotz: you mean ops hours in developer slots right? | 16:51 |
| spotz | Yes but let me double check how I worded it:) | 16:51 |
| spotz | Joining a specified OPS hour in a project's PTG room to meet/discuss specific OPS related things with developers | 16:51 |
| gmann | spotz: ack. thanks | 16:51 |
| gmann | yeah, that one. | 16:51 |
| spotz | Mind you we only had 13 votes total | 16:52 |
| dansmith | that means (for example) ops come to the nova room at a designated time to talk about nova things, is that right? | 16:53 |
| spotz | Yes | 16:53 |
| gmann | dansmith: yes | 16:55 |
| gmann | let's plan the slot booking etc in Thursday TC meeting | 16:57 |
| fungi | ralonsoh: gmann: spotz: the way the validation job and api work is that the e-mail address used for the filename of your nomination needs to be an address in your foundation member profile (and it has to be a foundation member account, not just a "community" account). it shouldn't matter if it's the first, second or third address in your member profile. on the gerrit side, however, the | 16:57 |
| fungi | address you use needs to be your preferred address in gerrit since the gerrit api won't let us look up accounts by non-preferred addresses nor list the addresses for an account | 16:57 |
| ralonsoh | fungi, this is my unique email address in gerrit | 16:58 |
| ralonsoh | and is still failing | 16:58 |
| ralonsoh | exception: No Openstack Foundation (OSF) data found for ralonsoh@redhat.com please check that ralonsoh@redhat.com is a valid email add | 16:59 |
| ralonsoh | ress and linked to a valid OSF account) | 16:59 |
| gmann | yeah that is what we confirmed and seems still failing | 16:59 |
| fungi | ralonsoh: i'll look at the job result | 16:59 |
| ralonsoh | fungi, btw, I've confirmed this email address 20 mins ago, in opendev | 16:59 |
| gmann | ohk, if that is updated/confirmed then it should validate fine | 17:00 |
| fungi | ralonsoh: https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/c9a8a614836c49f2b019cdd2dc57d275/log/job-output.txt#945-946 | 17:01 |
| fungi | the job log also includes the exact query used if you want to manually fetch it | 17:02 |
| ralonsoh | fungi, according to my profile | 17:02 |
| ralonsoh | Current Member Level: Community | 17:02 |
| fungi | ralonsoh: yep! that's the problem | 17:02 |
| ralonsoh | I think I should change to foundation member | 17:02 |
| gmann | humm, you need to change to foundation member | 17:02 |
| gmann | yes | 17:02 |
| fungi | i keep telling them to get the word "member" out of that | 17:02 |
| fungi | people get confused if they see the word "member" no matter the context, they think it means they're a member | 17:03 |
| gmann | after changing, please recheck | 17:03 |
| ralonsoh | sure and thanks a lot | 17:03 |
| knikolla | does being a community member also allow submitting gerrit patches? i may be misremembering that foundation membership was required for that. | 17:09 |
| clarkb | there is no requirement for foundation membership to push to gerrit | 17:09 |
| clarkb | depending on the project (openstack repos for example) you need to sign a cla to push to those particular gerrit repos | 17:10 |
| fungi | and cla signing is done through gerrit as well, not through the foundation member site | 17:10 |
| knikolla | ah i see. makes sense. | 17:10 |
| fungi | submitting changes has no dependencies on the foundation member system at all | 17:10 |
| fungi | (it did, but i removed that circa 2015) | 17:10 |
| knikolla | the docs https://docs.openstack.org/contributors/common/accounts.html mention creating a foundation member account and don't specify that community is also fine. | 17:11 |
| knikolla | so i think that's where my mistake comes from. | 17:11 |
| fungi | that "community account" status is for people who are setting up speakers bureau entries, or voting on summit sessions (back when we did that), or submitting talk proposals | 17:11 |
| fungi | knikolla: well, the contributor guide is saying to join the foundation as an individual member so you can vote and/or run in elections | 17:12 |
| fungi | a "community account" is not good enough for that | 17:12 |
| gmann | yeah, to participate in election, foundation membership is needed not just openstack elections but also openinfra board elections | 17:13 |
| knikolla | Yep, I understand. Thank you clarkb, fungi, gmann | 17:15 |
| gmann | ralonsoh: its all passing now. | 17:15 |
| opendevreview | Amy Marrich proposed openstack/election master: Extending Nominations 1 week https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/855263 | 17:16 |
| gmann | tc-members: reminder to vote on these two polls for TC PTG slot booking https://framadate.org/zsOqRxfVcmtjaPBC https://framadate.org/yi8LNQaph5wrirks | 17:18 |
| *** pojadhav|ruck is now known as pojadhav|out | 17:53 | |
| diablo_rojo | tc-members: If you have content you think would be good for the monthly foundation newsletter, please make sure it's in this etherpad by the end of the week! https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newsletter-openstack-news | 19:10 |
| *** dasm is now known as dasm|off | 19:21 | |
| opendevreview | Rajat Dhasmana proposed openstack/election master: Adding Rajat Dhasmana candidacy for Cinder PTL (Antelope) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/855275 | 19:28 |
| opendevreview | Elod Illes proposed openstack/governance master: Switch Release Management to DPL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/855276 | 19:36 |
| knikolla | in https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/user-committee-charter.html#user-committee we specify that the user committee is an elected subset of the TC. I don't see that we've ever actually done that though. Am I missing something? | 19:57 |
| fungi | it's mostly academic unless someone asks for the list of "user committee members" in which case the tc members can just decide among themselves | 19:58 |
| gmann | knikolla: it is. any member from user side can run for TC and get elected. since UC and TC merged, we have many member from user committee in TC. | 19:58 |
| gmann | TC is combination of TC + previously called UC | 19:59 |
| fungi | the paper uc is not really a formal body, the project just needs to be able to produce a uc roster in order to satisfy the foundation bylaws, if requested | 19:59 |
| knikolla | gmann: i understand. the charter mentions a formal role held by TC members, hence I asked. fungi answered my question. | 20:00 |
| opendevreview | Iury Gregory Melo Ferreira proposed openstack/election master: Adding Iury Gregory candidacy for Ironic https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/855281 | 20:00 |
| gmann | "To avoid a costly amendment of the Bylaws, that single elected body will be called “the Technical Committee”, but its role will be expanded to cover duties formerly filled by the User Committee." | 20:04 |
| gmann | basically UC is "the Technical Committee chair and four other members" | 20:05 |
| knikolla | gmann: I voted for the proposal. I am familiar with it. I was asking a very specific question about the procedure defined cause I didn't see us following it. | 20:05 |
| gmann | but remember there were few tasks in user committee charter/list like user group interaction etc are done in scope of TC | 20:06 |
| gmann | knikolla: any specific task/process you mean here which we should follow? | 20:07 |
| gmann | knikolla: ok | 20:07 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/election master: Add Pierre Riteau candidacy for Blazar https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/855085 | 20:08 |
| gmann | or you mean to explicitly list those 4 UC somewhere? | 20:08 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/election master: Add Gage Hugo candidacy for OpenStack-Helm PTL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/855094 | 20:08 |
| gmann | * 5 UC members | 20:08 |
| knikolla | yes, i was curious if we had ever formally defined that subset, or why it wasn't required. | 20:09 |
| gmann | as you know, there were two proposal for UC 1. Close the UC as group 2. merge TC + UC and to avoid bylaw change we went for 2nd one. but in actually there was no actual rational on TC doing the UC work as such. | 20:11 |
| gmann | so I am not surprise that we keep UC as in paper only for byLaw | 20:11 |
| gmann | or we can say TC is doing or open to users also for anything they want so we are kind of serving that role since starting itself | 20:12 |
| knikolla | Yeah, but there are some unintended consequences we need to keep in mind :) | 20:18 |
| knikolla | For example | 20:18 |
| knikolla | "Not more than half of the members of the User Committee should be affiliated with the same organization." | 20:18 |
| knikolla | So this introduces an indirect limitation on the TC not having more than 9 - 3 of the same org. | 20:18 |
| knikolla | It's a should and not a must, but still. | 20:19 |
| fungi | knikolla: the bylaws also require no more than half the tc be affiliated with the same employer, so the first is met trivially if the second is | 20:31 |
| fungi | (basically, we already have to be mindful of that) | 20:31 |
| knikolla | fungi: ah, we talked about this yesterday, i remember you pointing me to the section. | 20:32 |
| fungi | i.e., we currently can't have more than 4 tc seats filled by people sharing the same affiliation | 20:32 |
| knikolla | it's a good sign i should call it a day :) | 20:32 |
| knikolla | it all blends together after a while | 20:33 |
| fungi | i know the feeling! | 20:33 |
| opendevreview | Carlos Eduardo proposed openstack/election master: Add Carlos da Silva candidacy to Manila PTL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/855289 | 21:09 |
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