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| scas | that does have a big part to do with it. i like to think of it as you don't know what you don't know. the paths to openstack don't particularly matter, as operators/deployers will take whichever path gets them to ':-)' with expedience. from an overarching perspective, at some point, it's going to have to come down to either embracing what's here and making sure the community is further aware of what | 02:25 |
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| scas | consists the openstack-the-project in its current form, or taking the hardliner stance and going on a minification exercise, in no small words saying those openstack-but-not-really-openstack bits are exclusive to openstack-the-product and openstack-the-project | 02:25 |
| scas | the issue i see is that there is no one unifying installer, one path to openstack-the-product | 02:26 |
| scas | but then one has to refer to the xkcd on standards | 02:27 |
| scas | the metrics on installers would be more telling if they weren't anonymized, if only for the sake of speaking points. it would give deeper insight into how these projects are actually used, instead of that they are used period | 02:28 |
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| scas | it's insightful to be able to point to a metric about chef being used, but i can only speculate on who actually uses it, based on past summits and rumblings through the internet | 02:29 |
| scas | how complex _are_ those deployments? what do they actually use out of openstack-the-project? | 02:29 |
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