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| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift: Allow concurrent bulk deletes https://review.openstack.org/311817 | 01:29 |
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| mahatic | acoles_: thanks for the crypto doc. will look at it. Also, on using container key + path based iv for etags +1 | 04:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Christopher Bartz proposed openstack/swift: Improves log message in swift.obj.replicator https://review.openstack.org/312042 | 07:14 |
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| acoles | good morning | 07:26 |
| mattoliverau | acoles: morning | 07:52 |
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| acoles | joeljwright: the client docs merged before I got round to reviewing but they look great! nice work! | 09:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift: crypto - add overview doc (WIP) https://review.openstack.org/312096 | 09:28 |
| joeljwright | acoles: thanks, we managed to get them merged on Friday | 09:29 |
| joeljwright | acoles: I spent some time with notmyname and the docs peeps trying to work out how we can show multiple versions of the client docs | 09:30 |
| joeljwright | need to speak to him tonight to see if he got anywhere (I had to leave for my flight) | 09:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Christian Schwede proposed openstack/swift: Don't delete misplaced dbs if not replicated https://review.openstack.org/303994 | 10:39 |
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| admin6 | Hi there, do you know where I’m supposed to find logs of the object reconstructor for EC? Both replicator and reconstructor are configured the same way in object-server.conf, and I have replication logs in /var/log/swift/object-replicator.log but can’t find logs for the reconstructor. | 12:00 |
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| tdasilva | acoles, jrichli, ppai: good morning, just wanted to give a heads up that I've been going through timburke's comments on copy middleware and hope to send a patch later today... | 12:03 |
| tdasilva | driving to the office, will log in again a bit later.. | 12:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack/swift: Adds migrated API reference files https://review.openstack.org/312315 | 12:56 |
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| tdasilva | good morning | 13:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Barton proposed openstack/swift: go: hashes.invalid https://review.openstack.org/286833 | 13:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift: crypto - add overview doc (WIP) https://review.openstack.org/312096 | 13:58 |
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| acoles | tdasilva: thanks for headsup, and for working on it | 14:04 |
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| acoles | jrichli: mahatic i think patch 305794 might be next to get landed on crypto if you have chance to review | 14:14 |
| patchbot | acoles: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/305794/ - swift (feature/crypto) - crypto - only set body crypto meta if body is read... | 14:14 |
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| jrichli | acoles: will do. tdasilva: thanks, and I'll take a look at that patch as well. | 14:21 |
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| acoles | jrichli: btw thanks for all the comments on the doc | 14:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: go: shuffle GetNodes https://review.openstack.org/293855 | 14:51 |
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| bkeller` | acoles, are the encryption overview docs far enough along for me to start nitpicking grammar? :p | 15:05 |
| acoles | bkeller`: surely they're ain't none grammer mistakes are their? :P | 15:07 |
| acoles | bkeller`: please do, it has to be correct eventually | 15:07 |
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| notmyname | good morning | 15:23 |
| notmyname | joeljwright: no, didn't get anywhere on the version selector | 15:23 |
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| bkeller` | acoles, you misled me by only having mistakes at the beginning :( | 15:35 |
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| acoles | bkeller`: ouch I cannot believe I typed "Client's" :/ thanks for reviewing! | 15:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Brian Ober proposed openstack/swift: Storage Account Object Count Quota Support https://review.openstack.org/312603 | 15:39 |
| bkeller` | Are the probe tests in the SAIO supposed to work? | 15:45 |
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| glange | haha | 15:46 |
| notmyname | bkeller`: yes, but torgomatic was saying yesterday that a recent patch may have inadvertantly broken them | 15:47 |
| notmyname | bkeller`: and it was totally my fault since I reviewed the patch ;-) | 15:47 |
| bkeller` | lol | 15:47 |
| bkeller` | I was struggling with that yesterday but now I noticed the saio-probe CI tests were failing on things like doc changes | 15:48 |
| notmyname | yeah. patch 274840 | 15:49 |
| patchbot | notmyname: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274840/ - swift - change default ports for servers (MERGED) | 15:49 |
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| notmyname | the summary is that all the examples were changed to have the ports using the 62xx range, but the probe tests do some math to find the port (assuming the old 6xxx range) and the global find/replace didn't work for that | 15:50 |
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| notmyname | dfg_: redbo: interesting conversation this morning in the -dev channel about doing dependencies in go. http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-dev/%23openstack-dev.2016-05-04.log.html | 15:53 |
| notmyname | dfg_: redbo: so far, how are you dealing with 3rd party dependencies? froma quick glance at the code, you're just referencing the github repos? | 15:54 |
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| redbo | Yeah, it's something I haven't really worried about yet. | 16:05 |
| notmyname | ok | 16:05 |
| notmyname | any opinions on it yet? | 16:05 |
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| redbo | Not really, I haven't tried godeps or any of its competitors. Vendoring is simple but has always seemed kind of gross. | 16:14 |
| notmyname | yeah | 16:15 |
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| jrichli | bkeller` : see if patch 311899 fixes your issues | 16:26 |
| patchbot | jrichli: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/311899/ - swift - Fix probe tests from commit cf48e75 | 16:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift: crypto - cleanup decrypter exception handling https://review.openstack.org/304806 | 16:29 |
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| sgundur- | notmyname: sorry about the failing probetests due to my patch :( I ll debug it and fix | 16:34 |
| notmyname | sgundur-: no worries. I reviewed it, so it's my fault too :-) | 16:35 |
| notmyname | I'm runnign torgomatic's patch now locally | 16:36 |
| sgundur- | notmyname: I see that they r failing in _get_container_db_files , was trying to debug using tox | 16:36 |
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| sgundur- | notmyname: tox doesn't seem to work on probetests | 16:40 |
| notmyname | jrichli: acoles: I just finished watching your crypto summit talk. it was great! | 16:40 |
| sgundur- | notmyname: any ideas how do I debug probetests | 16:41 |
| acoles | notmyname: thanks | 16:42 |
| bkeller` | I don't think it worked but I'm also not confident I still have it set up correctly | 16:43 |
| notmyname | sgundur-: is this with torgomatic's patch? | 16:43 |
| sgundur- | notmyname: nope, just with my changes. I havn't added his patch | 16:43 |
| notmyname | bkeller`: the probetests are specifically written to run against the saio setup described in the docs (eg default policy has 4 drives and is replicated and has servers on particular ports and drives at particular paths) | 16:44 |
| notmyname | sgundur-: from his commit message, seems that the probetests are looking for particular ports (62xx), but the rings are still using 6xxx | 16:45 |
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| notmyname | hmm...I'm still getting 1 error and 2 failures with his patch | 16:48 |
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| notmyname | I need to step away, but I'll dig into it in a bit | 16:49 |
| sgundur- | notmyname: I guess, my mistake was I only switched the 6000-6003 ports to 6200-6203 | 16:49 |
| sgundur- | notmyname: I thought this 6000 range is the base upon which the other port ranges (for 4 modes in saio) were calculated | 16:51 |
| sgundur- | notmyname: looks like I was wrong, ll look at the code | 16:52 |
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| notmyname | sgundur-: I'm back for a few minutes. did you find anything? | 17:34 |
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| sgundur- | notmyname: yes, its calculating the node_id using the port # 6011 | 17:36 |
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| sgundur- | notmyname: and checking it against 6200 range , need to change that | 17:37 |
| notmyname | sgundur-: ok, that sounds like what torgomatic told me yesterday. so patch 311899 just rolls back the probetest changes so that they match remakerings | 17:37 |
| patchbot | notmyname: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/311899/ - swift - Fix probe tests from commit cf48e75 | 17:37 |
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| sgundur- | notmyname: will make changes locally and test and get back | 17:38 |
| notmyname | sgundur-: really doesn't matter which way the fix goes. just that they match. and it looks like torgomatic has already done it one way | 17:38 |
| notmyname | so start from there | 17:38 |
| sgundur- | notmyname: I am lil confused on the port changes, do we make the changes to all the range i.e. 6010-40 , 6011-41,6012-42 ? | 17:39 |
| notmyname | yeah, I think the idea is s/60/62/g in all that | 17:41 |
| notmyname | however, don't try to refix what torgomatic has already fix. if his works, let's use that | 17:41 |
| sgundur- | notmyname: ok, thanks | 17:42 |
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| jrichli | notmyname: thanks! I am happy it's over, and I didn't pass-out. Also glad we could answer the questions for the most part :-) | 17:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift: crypto - cleanup encrypter error handling https://review.openstack.org/312662 | 17:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Samuel Merritt proposed openstack/swift: Skip SLO-reconciling probe test when SLO is off https://review.openstack.org/312698 | 19:04 |
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| timburke | joeljwright: don't forget to look at the other two in the chain: patch 312262 and patch 312263 | 19:21 |
| patchbot | timburke: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312262/ - python-swiftclient - Parse options to dict | 19:21 |
| patchbot | timburke: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312263/ - python-swiftclient - Pull option processing out to service.py | 19:21 |
| timburke | acoles_: i'm supposed to remind you to look at patch 310596, which means you should also look at those^ | 19:23 |
| patchbot | timburke: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310596/ - python-swiftclient - Default to v3 auth if we find a (user|project)-dom... | 19:23 |
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| sgundur- | notmyname: with torgomatic's patch , I no longer get the probetests error associated with port# , but I do get the 3 other errors -http://paste.openstack.org/show/496139/ | 19:30 |
| andrewmi | Good evening everyone. Does anyone know any good resources for offering swift as a service. So far I have read through "Openstack Swift by Joe Arnold & team" and done a fair share of googling. | 19:32 |
| sgundur- | notmyname: in the test_container_sync:TestContainerSync._test_sync ; put_object returns with 201 but after the container-sync the get_object fails with 404 | 19:32 |
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| joeljwright | timburke: looking at them now :) | 20:01 |
| openstackgerrit | David Goetz proposed openstack/swift: go: extra detail in replication error log https://review.openstack.org/312256 | 20:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | David Goetz proposed openstack/swift: go: extra detail in replication error log https://review.openstack.org/312256 | 20:08 |
| timburke | thanks joeljwright. don't forget to sleep :P | 20:09 |
| joeljwright | timburke: no time for that! | 20:11 |
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| notmyname | meeting in 15 minutes in #openstack-meeting | 20:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift: Allow concurrent bulk deletes https://review.openstack.org/311817 | 20:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Barton proposed openstack/swift: go: hashes.invalid https://review.openstack.org/286833 | 20:54 |
| mattoliverau | Morning | 20:54 |
| kota_ | morning | 20:55 |
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| joeljwright | morning! | 20:57 |
| acoles | timburke: ack | 20:58 |
| clayg | people that should be asleep keep saying morning - there must be a meeting today | 20:59 |
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| notmyname | kota_ doesn't get to sleep any more! https://twitter.com/bloodeagle40234/status/727759157735108609 | 21:00 |
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| notmyname | meeting time in #openstack-meeting | 21:00 |
| acoles | clayg: morning | 21:00 |
| acoles | timburke: your patches are on my calendar for tomorrow | 21:01 |
| kota_ | notmyname: true | 21:01 |
| timburke | thanks acoles | 21:03 |
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| * jrichli is off to yoga | 22:01 | |
| tdasilva | clayg, kota_: it's ok for me if kota_ wants to take that on... | 22:01 |
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| notmyname | tdasilva: nope. you're it ;-) | 22:01 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: kota_ has a new baby | 22:01 |
| kota_ | either is fine | 22:01 |
| tdasilva | ok | 22:02 |
| kota_ | yeah, it might make it slow. | 22:02 |
| clayg | oh right! | 22:02 |
| notmyname | lol, as if me sitting on it could in any way be described as "not slow" | 22:02 |
| tdasilva | clayg, acoles: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1NYXakXGjh6WHItOU1SR29EVWc/view?usp=sharing | 22:03 |
| tdasilva | this was a presentation given at Vault couple of weeks ago | 22:03 |
| kota_ | tdasilva: anyways, i might be able to help you for the repo migration so please let me know if you have something. | 22:03 |
| tqtran | random question, but i noticed that a few of the test files in test/functional start with #!/usr/bin/python, is that pretty standard? | 22:03 |
| tdasilva | what *I* learned is that the tricky part with tiers is the algorightm to determine what to promote | 22:04 |
| acoles | jrichli: (when you return from yoga) my rough plan of action for crypto is to get patch 305794 and its dependents merged, then we have rough areas left: keymaster changes from last week, and tests | 22:04 |
| patchbot | acoles: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/305794/ - swift (feature/crypto) - crypto - only set body crypto meta if body is read... | 22:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift: Allow concurrent bulk deletes https://review.openstack.org/311817 | 22:05 |
| clayg | tqtran: a few of us used to like the just `./path/to/some/test_something.py` but people started -x'ing those files and I realized I mostly just started using `nosetests /path/to/some/test_something.py` anyway so it probaly never got cleaned up | 22:05 |
| tdasilva | kota_: thanks! I will probably ping you! | 22:05 |
| tdasilva | :D | 22:05 |
| tdasilva | with questions | 22:05 |
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| kota_ | tdasilva: i hope you will say just "done" :P | 22:05 |
| tqtran | clayg: i see, thanks for the clarification. i guess is ok if i dont include them in new test files? | 22:06 |
| tdasilva | kota_: hehe, sounds good! actually I don't want to bother you, you should just enjoy baby! | 22:06 |
| acoles | tdasilva: thanks. that is weird, i once wrote a device-mapper module called dm-cache, but I'm sure its no the one they talk about, although it did similar. | 22:06 |
| kota_ | tdasilva: yeah, being offline to take care of her, maybe this week I can not take enough time to work, I will probably be back since the next week. | 22:07 |
| tdasilva | kota_: what's Kazuhiro's irc handle? | 22:07 |
| kota_ | tdasilva: m_kazuhiro | 22:08 |
| tdasilva | thanks | 22:08 |
| kota_ | tdasilva: I think he also will be back in the next week because this week is long contanious national holiday week in Japan. | 22:09 |
| clayg | tqtran: yeah np | 22:09 |
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| notmyname | completely unrelated to swift, I'm guessing that most people here might find these two links pretty interesting http://www.ece.eng.wayne.edu/~sjiang/pubs/papers/wu15-lsm-trie.pdf and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGFhc8R_uO4 | 22:10 |
| tdasilva | acoles: you have implemented tiering before? | 22:11 |
| notmyname | redbo: on the topic of slab files and indexes for small-file optimization, section 6.7 on http://aosabook.org/en/git.html was interesting to me. specifically, the corruption risk of the naive format and their v2 pack file format | 22:14 |
| acoles | tdasilva: I wouldn't call it tiering. caching implies there's a base copy. | 22:14 |
| acoles | tdasilva: tiering implies relocating the entire resource, caching keeps copies of the resource (or parts of it) hot in other locations. | 22:15 |
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| tdasilva | acoles: yep, makes sense | 22:15 |
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| acoles | tdasilva: but agree, figurng out good cache eviction policies is one of the harder parts. | 22:16 |
| tdasilva | acoles: yeah, I guess we can't just promote things back to hot cache just because of a single write to an object that is in a colder tie | 22:17 |
| tdasilva | or actually a single 'read' | 22:18 |
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| acoles | with finite capacity caches it comes down to whether there is something you are prepared to evict in favour of what is being touched. if you have space/eviction candidates then moe the latest accessed item to cache, assuming there is little overhead in doing so, and evicting it from cache is free. With tiering, there is a cost to each movement, and yes you probably don't want to move based on a single read. | 22:21 |
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| notmyname | dfg_: redbo: have you played with memoizing (or otherwise) the memcache lookups in swift in order to avoid an extra network request? | 22:23 |
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| acoles | tdasilva: i think the use cases you described to me last week where an operator knows that data older than say 24 hours is going cold are easier to reason about, rather than trying to dynamically "learn" when to promote/demote objects through tiers. | 22:26 |
| acoles | tdasilva: or as clayg argued, leaving it to the client to decide. | 22:27 |
| notmyname | dfg_: redbo: eg https://gist.github.com/notmyname/c4ca69c1ebf85079b673b6b153bb5bb9 | 22:28 |
| acoles | good night | 22:28 |
| redbo | notmyname: no. I don't know how many proxy processes we have per cluster, but I suspect it's a lot. If the processes could collude, it might be more interesting. | 22:28 |
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| notmyname | redbo: I think it would be interesting if you patched one proxy server to add the 2 lines needed to LRU memoize the _get_info_cache and see what happens ;-) | 22:29 |
| notmyname | redbo: also "interesting" because it's your prod cluster, not mine | 22:29 |
| mattoliverau | notmyname: re:trie / links. interesting.. maybe tries in swift will be back one day :P | 22:36 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: I keep trie-ing | 22:37 |
| mattoliverau | notmyname: one day for sure! | 22:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Dickinson proposed openstack/swift-specs: Killing specs https://review.openstack.org/312778 | 23:01 |
| openstackgerrit | John Dickinson proposed openstack/swift: created other-requirements.txt https://review.openstack.org/309219 | 23:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Dickinson proposed openstack/swift: created other-requirements.txt https://review.openstack.org/309219 | 23:04 |
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| redbo | notmyname: It would be fun to play with, but fragmentation/compaction seems like a really deep rabbit hole to me. Also Dave Chinner would inevitably call us idiots. | 23:19 |
| notmyname | redbo: as opposed to now? ;-) | 23:20 |
| redbo | haha | 23:20 |
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| redbo | You should put that on the ideas page | 23:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Check responses when retrying bodies https://review.openstack.org/269252 | 23:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift-specs: remove reference to copy hook https://review.openstack.org/287773 | 23:32 |
| redbo | hmm.. I'm not sure how to approach chunked puts on that one. | 23:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: Improves log message in swift.obj.replicator https://review.openstack.org/312042 | 23:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: go: extra detail in replication error log https://review.openstack.org/312256 | 23:36 |
| notmyname | redbo: on which one? | 23:38 |
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| redbo | on slabs | 23:38 |
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| notmyname | ah | 23:40 |
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| notmyname | we could do something similar to EC. spool the segment size and if it's bigger than that it's "big" and doesn't get slabbed. if it's smaller, we can slab it | 23:41 |
| notmyname | EC segment size default is 1MB | 23:41 |
| notmyname | so if the object server spools more than one network segment up to the definition of "small" (for the purposes of the slab), then maybe that could work | 23:43 |
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