| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack/releases: Release python-heatclient 0.7.0 https://review.openstack.org/219515 | 00:02 |
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| ttx | johnthetubaguy: missed our appointment this morning. Any news ? | 10:13 |
| ttx | flaper87: any update on your side? | 10:15 |
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| ttx | Kiall, johnthetubaguy, flaper87: ping me when around | 12:28 |
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| flaper87 | ttx: hey, will ping you in a couple of mins. There are some patches in the gate queue. | 12:32 |
| ttx | ack | 12:32 |
| flaper87 | ttx: I've moved the BPs and they'll land as exceptions, lickly | 12:32 |
| flaper87 | likely | 12:32 |
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| dhellmann | good morning | 13:48 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: o/ | 14:04 |
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| nikhil_k | ttx: hi | 14:27 |
| dhellmann | ttx: o/ | 14:30 |
| nikhil_k | ttx: I've added a few items to the liberty-3 page. However, the currently assigned artifacts BP is out of date and is expected to be replaced by a new one soon-ish as the people working on it told me. For the other 2 in review, one needs one +2 and other needs some more love but the latter one is a tiny so I hope to get it landed today. | 14:30 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: do we need a formal vote on the adoh tag applications, or can we merge that so we can do a release for them? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218253/ | 14:34 |
| ttx | nno need for formal vote if we both agree | 14:35 |
| ttx | we said release tags were administered by the release team | 14:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/releases: Release Aodh 1.0.0 https://review.openstack.org/217766 | 14:37 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: that's what I thought. I've asked infra to help merge the acl changes we need to allow the release | 14:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Release os-brick 0.4.0 https://review.openstack.org/219013 | 14:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: hi, sorry, had much more limited connectivity till now that I was planning on | 14:43 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ttx: we are looking much closer on quite a few important things, but there is still stuff not in the gate yet, that in an ideal world, I would like in, I need to take a closer look at some of those | 14:44 |
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| ttx | johnthetubaguy: shall we wait until tomorrow ? | 14:45 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov, gordc, redrobot: let me know if you can sync today | 14:47 |
| ttx | Kiall: same | 14:47 |
| gordc | ttx: i'm available now | 14:47 |
| ttx | gordc: cool, looking at your l3 page everything is ready... are you waiting on anything else before the 0b3 tag , | 14:47 |
| ttx | ? | 14:47 |
| bpoulos | dhellman, txx: there's a requirements patch that one of the desired glance patches is dependent on -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184874/ -- it has one +2, would it be possible to get another review? | 14:48 |
| gordc | ttx: we have two bps with patches under review and one bp with patch waiting in merge queue | 14:48 |
| gordc | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/liberty | 14:48 |
| ttx | gordc: do you think any of those 3 may merge before tomorrow ? | 14:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Release python-novaclient 2.27.0 https://review.openstack.org/219283 | 14:49 |
| ttx | the one in merge queue sounds like a good one to wait for | 14:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: I think we will have to wait to tomorrow, sorry about that | 14:49 |
| ttx | the two with patches under review could make FFEs if needed | 14:49 |
| gordc | ttx: yeah, that should be merged by today. (hopefully) | 14:50 |
| gordc | ttx: i'd like to request FFE for the other two... one is partially merged with two more patches waiting: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/ceilometer+branch:master+topic:bp/events-rbac,n,z | 14:50 |
| ttx | gordc: I would add the blockers to the l3 page so that we know we wait on them | 14:50 |
| dhellmann | bpoulos: looking | 14:50 |
| gordc | ttx: ok i'll do that. will target them to l3 | 14:51 |
| bpoulos | dhellmann: thanks | 14:51 |
| dhellmann | bpoulos: +2a | 14:51 |
| ttx | agordc we can talk again same time tomorow and just tag where it stands | 14:51 |
| bpoulos | dhellmann: awesome, thanks! | 14:52 |
| ttx | and FFE those which didn't make it in time | 14:52 |
| gordc | ttx: for FFE, how much extra time does taht give us? | 14:52 |
| gordc | RC1? | 14:52 |
| ttx | gordc: in theory yes. In practice, the more you wait the less you're focused on bugfixing and the worse the quality of the end result | 14:52 |
| ttx | so ideally FFEs get closed in the week after | 14:52 |
| gordc | ttx: makes sense | 14:53 |
| ttx | but it's really your choice in the end. We just provide advice :) | 14:53 |
| ttx | if you want to sacrifice quality for features, who am I to disagree (release hat on) | 14:53 |
| gordc | ttx: the remaining items are priority reviews for cores so hopefully it's in quickly. at least all the patches are up so i'm content | 14:53 |
| ttx | With my TC hat on I'll probably frown a lot. | 14:53 |
| gordc | ttx: :) | 14:53 |
| * gordc does not understand disapproval | 14:54 | |
| ttx | it's all balance. feature reviews take up time that could be spent testing and fixing release-critical bugs | 14:54 |
| ttx | so the sooner they are out of the way, the better the quality of the end result. But then in some cases "features" are actually about completing something that is really buggy if you leave it the way it is | 14:55 |
| ttx | those make good FFEs, it's about tying loose ends before release | 14:55 |
| ttx | My recommendation is to focus on those, and leave pure feature additionks for the next cycle | 14:55 |
| gordc | ttx: true true... i was looking for my 'review' whip yesterday. will look harder. | 14:56 |
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| ttx | gordc: thx, will talk to you again tomorrow | 14:57 |
| gordc | ttx sounds good | 14:57 |
| ttx | dhellmann: the cross-check job landed and should now be enabled | 14:57 |
| dhellmann | ttx: will we see any impact before we have a stable branch cut? | 14:58 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: requirements jobs will run master->master tests twice, since the stable branches tests will use master instead. | 14:59 |
| dhellmann | ok | 14:59 |
| * ttx should run a recheck just for fun | 14:59 | |
| dhellmann | ttx: do we have the process we're going to follow written up in an etherpad or wiki, or is it just in that email thread? | 15:00 |
| ttx | dhellmann: it's also in the spec, although in short form | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | it might be good to start a checklist etherpad. I can do that. | 15:01 |
| flaper87 | ttx: https://launchpad.net/zaqar/+milestone/liberty-3 | 15:02 |
| flaper87 | ttx: that should be ok for a cut | 15:02 |
| ttx | I'll take that and run with it | 15:02 |
| flaper87 | the rest will have to request a FF | 15:02 |
| flaper87 | ttx: thank you | 15:02 |
| ttx | flaper87: fwiw you don't really need our permission for FFEs. You should take your responsibilities. We are available to give advice in case you need it | 15:03 |
| flaper87 | ttx: yup, thanks for the heads up | 15:03 |
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| ttx | tagging zaqar 0b3 now. You win | 15:05 |
| ttx | looks like the gate is in classic feature freeze crunch | 15:06 |
| flaper87 | ttx: yeah, it took a bit to land the last patch! | 15:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Release python-ironicclient 0.8.0 https://review.openstack.org/219476 | 15:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Release python-heatclient 0.7.0 https://review.openstack.org/219515 | 15:10 |
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| ttx | fyi just synced with bswartz about manila over pm | 15:16 |
| dhellmann | k | 15:16 |
| dhellmann | I think I've cleared the library release backlog | 15:16 |
| ttx | jgriffith: ping | 15:17 |
| nikhil_k | ttx: hi | 15:17 |
| ttx | nikhil_k: hey. Saw your update earlier | 15:18 |
| nikhil_k | jokke_: and I are chatting about a req for rel on glance_store | 15:18 |
| nikhil_k | ttx: ah thanks. this one is new :)) | 15:18 |
| ttx | nikhil_k: sounds like a good idea | 15:18 |
| nikhil_k | ttx: so, we have got the commits lined up and the current HEAD on master looks good | 15:18 |
| ttx | Kiall, SergeyLukjanov, redrobot: reping | 15:18 |
| nikhil_k | but he was suggesting 1.0.0 for the rel | 15:19 |
| ttx | well, why not | 15:19 |
| nikhil_k | and I wanted to see if we can bump the development version to Development Status :: 4 ? | 15:19 |
| nikhil_k | or 5 if possible? | 15:20 |
| ttx | I guess you can. Most projects have been pretty lazy updating that metadata | 15:20 |
| nikhil_k | ttx: we just want to convey a msg to the developers and deployers about the state of the lib | 15:20 |
| nikhil_k | I guess we will do that then | 15:20 |
| ttx | sure. Just saying there is no real link between 1.0.0 and 4 | 15:20 |
| ttx | so you're free to do wahtever | 15:21 |
| nikhil_k | surely | 15:21 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k & ttx: I don't know if we have reason to cut major or minor, but IIUC we should cut release for basis of our stable/liberty branch, right? | 15:21 |
| ttx | jokke_: yes | 15:21 |
| ttx | if the final is 0.9.0 then stable/liberty may have 0.9.1..0.9.2.. | 15:21 |
| redrobot | ttx o/ | 15:21 |
| jokke_ | so personally I don't think we have anything screaming for major release out of glance_store | 15:21 |
| ttx | if the final is 1.0.0 then stable/liberty may have 1.0.1..1.0.2.. | 15:22 |
| jokke_ | ttx: exactly | 15:22 |
| ttx | so no big impact | 15:22 |
| ttx | redrobot: o/ | 15:22 |
| ttx | looking at https://launchpad.net/barbican/+milestone/liberty-3 | 15:22 |
| ttx | is that the only BPs likely to get completed in the next day ? | 15:23 |
| redrobot | ttx no, there's one more pb I need to add | 15:23 |
| jokke_ | ttx: btw, _if_ we come to release 1.0.1 from glanceclient do we need 1.1.0 release for stable or should we cut stable now from 1.0.0 and use that and next master release is then 1.1.0? | 15:23 |
| ttx | redrobot: ok, please add so that we know what you're waiting on | 15:23 |
| ttx | redrobot: are they both really close ? We are running out of time for the 0b3 tag and the gate is pretty busy | 15:24 |
| ttx | so if not it might make sense to just consider FFE for those | 15:24 |
| ttx | jokke_: no, 1.0.1 will be the base release | 15:24 |
| redrobot | ttx tye py3 support bp could be pushed to the next release, there's a ton of patches in the queue for it | 15:24 |
| ttx | if the final is 1.0.1 then stable/liberty may have 1.0.2..1.0.3.. | 15:24 |
| ttx | redrobot: yeah, probably more realistic | 15:25 |
| redrobot | ttx the quota bp is in review currently, we do want to land it today | 15:25 |
| ttx | redrobot: and focus the review attention on the other one | 15:25 |
| ttx | py3 is more of a work in progress I suspect | 15:25 |
| ttx | so I would suggest removing py3 from liberty-3 | 15:26 |
| redrobot | ttx ok, sounds good | 15:26 |
| jokke_ | ttx: oh cool so we can use patch release as base and increment that we don't need clean minor for it. Gotcha ... great thanks! | 15:26 |
| ttx | doesn't prevent merging things until tomorrow, we just won't block on it and we signal to the public that it's unlikely to be completed | 15:26 |
| ttx | jokke_: you're weclome :) | 15:26 |
| ttx | or welcome | 15:26 |
| ttx | redrobot: ok, removed the l3 target from https://blueprints.launchpad.net/barbican/+spec/barbican-py3 and set it to "next" milestone | 15:27 |
| redrobot | ttx re: bugs your script will be able to target all merged bugs, yes? | 15:27 |
| ttx | yes | 15:27 |
| Kiall | ttx: finally around, sorry for delay. Give me 15 to quickly review the l3 milestone | 15:27 |
| ttx | Kiall: sure please do | 15:28 |
| ttx | redrobot: let's sync again tomorrow and hopefully that last BP will be merged alright | 15:28 |
| redrobot | ttx sounds good, thanks. | 15:28 |
| jgriffith | ttx: pong | 15:29 |
| ttx | jgriffith: looking at https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/liberty-3 | 15:29 |
| ttx | impressive list btw | 15:29 |
| ttx | how far is that last bp ? | 15:29 |
| jgriffith | ttx: I'm thinking it's going to get dumped | 15:30 |
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| jgriffith | ttx: giving folks a chance to discuss in meeting today | 15:30 |
| ttx | jgriffith: given the busy status in the gate I'd say it's a safe assumption | 15:30 |
| jgriffith | ttx: my plan is what's in thie afternoon is in, what's out is out | 15:30 |
| jgriffith | ttx: I've got everything in that I think is important | 15:30 |
| ttx | ok | 15:30 |
| dhellmann | ttx, lifeless : I started a checklist for requirements management for the end of the cycle in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-end-of-release-requirements-checklist | 15:30 |
| jgriffith | well... except some bug issues | 15:30 |
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| jgriffith | but I can deal with those | 15:30 |
| jgriffith | ttx: are we shooting for 00:00 UTC or?? | 15:31 |
| ttx | jgriffith: we'll likely push most tags tomorrow | 15:31 |
| jgriffith | ttx: ok, sounds good | 15:31 |
| ttx | but early tomorrow (EU tomorrow) rather than Pacific tomorrow | 15:32 |
| jgriffith | ttx: I'll shout if something comes up, but as it stands I'm fine with where we're at | 15:32 |
| ttx | jgriffith: so we can make the final call when you get up | 15:32 |
| jgriffith | ttx: sounds most excellent! | 15:32 |
| * jgriffith forgot about the adrenaline rush this week :) | 15:32 | |
| ttx | jgriffith: alrighty | 15:32 |
| jgriffith | ttx: thanks! | 15:32 |
| ttx | dhellmann: looking | 15:33 |
| Kiall | ttx: whenever your ready | 15:36 |
| ttx | Kiall: here | 15:37 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/designate/+milestone/liberty-3 | 15:37 |
| Kiall | K | 15:37 |
| ttx | so still waiting on .. 3 BPs | 15:37 |
| Kiall | Everything "In Progress" should land today pending a second +2 | 15:37 |
| ttx | Kiall: pending gate behaving, too | 15:37 |
| Kiall | ttx, yea! | 15:37 |
| Kiall | 1 bug "triaged" - I think it's been fixed (#1473758) - waiting on a response from Endre to know for sure. | 15:38 |
| ttx | Kiall: at this stage I propose we tag tomorrow around this time with what's in, and give FFEs to the stragglers | 15:38 |
| ttx | you don't seem to be crushed under FFEs yet | 15:39 |
| ttx | and those are all mostly there | 15:39 |
| ttx | so landing them in the next days is no big deal | 15:39 |
| Kiall | Yea - FIne by me! We've had a really really slow month-ish - most everyone has been stuck with internal / non-upstream stuff :( | 15:39 |
| ttx | that happens. As long as they come back you're fine | 15:40 |
| Kiall | BTW - RE summit space, I'll get you a reply by EOD - again, been crazy bust, sorry for taking so long :) | 15:40 |
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| Kiall | Yea, if anything it's making the committment stronger ;) | 15:40 |
| ttx | Kiall: been operating with the idea that you would request 1 fb, 4 wr and 1 cm. Feel free to correct me | 15:41 |
| Kiall | ttx: that pretty close to what I was thinking - 1fb, 5wr, 1cm - wanted to check in with other folks before actually giving you numbers tho | 15:42 |
| ttx | ack | 15:43 |
| ttx | armax: I'm available to discuss if you have 5 min | 15:43 |
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| notmyname | ttx: dhellmann: looking at schedules, I'm thinking of the end of this month (to within a few days) to target the next release of Swift, which will be the final one of Liberty | 15:54 |
| notmyname | ttx: dhellmann: do you have any concerns or issues there? | 15:54 |
| dhellmann | notmyname: I think that syncs up with the expectations for RC1 for the other projects | 15:54 |
| ttx | notmyname: no, that sounds good. | 15:54 |
| notmyname | great, thanks | 15:54 |
| ttx | I like to keep the last two weeks for emergencies, but September is all fair game | 15:55 |
| armax | ttx: ping | 15:58 |
| ttx | armax: pong | 15:58 |
| armax | ttx: I had another pass at the milestone last night | 15:59 |
| armax | ttx: I was hoping that more stuff merged…looking now | 15:59 |
| ttx | there is no place for hope on FF week! | 15:59 |
| armax | ttx: indeed | 16:00 |
| armax | ttx: at the pace the gate is going now there’s no chance the outstanding patches will merge by the end of today | 16:02 |
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| ttx | armax: right, I think that's a safe assumption | 16:02 |
| armax | ttx: what’s the super-latest-final deadline by which you want to cut l3? | 16:02 |
| ttx | so you need to play with FFE as an adjustemnt variable | 16:02 |
| armax | ttx: I have already | 16:03 |
| ttx | armax: tomorrow this time | 16:03 |
| armax | ok | 16:03 |
| ttx | we can talk again then | 16:03 |
| armax | ttx: so what about I have another trim over the milestone and drop you and dhellmann and email at the end of my day | 16:03 |
| armax | ttx: you can cut it sooner tomorrow if you like | 16:03 |
| armax | ttx: we’re gonna need an rc1 most definitely | 16:04 |
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| ttx | armax: well obviously you will. Tomorrow we just tag a b3 | 16:05 |
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| armax | ttx: sounds good, thanks | 16:06 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: about to close for the day. I did sync with most, left in bold on the etherpad the ones I missed today | 16:10 |
| dhellmann | ttx: ok, I'll try to hit those after lunch | 16:11 |
| ttx | it's likely that they will want to sneak as much in and wait for tomorrow anyway, but we can have an early close like Zaqar and lighten up our Thursday load | 16:11 |
| dhellmann | ++ | 16:13 |
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| morgan | dhellmann: i hope to have 1bp finished fir keystone today | 16:19 |
| morgan | And everything else is being punted | 16:19 |
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| morgan | dhellmann: also i want to say that i am generally -1 on any FFEs for keystone this cycle. So someone needs to really come out on top for a good reason vs "well it is close" | 16:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: group service and library projects separately https://review.openstack.org/219465 | 17:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: show more of the release summary in table https://review.openstack.org/219466 | 17:18 |
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| jroll | dhellmann: should I assume you're doing the announcement for python-ironicclient 0.8.0? do I need to do anything to cut stable/liberty or do you folks do that? | 18:01 |
| dhellmann | jroll: we'll make the branch for you, but not yet | 18:02 |
| dhellmann | if that's the version where you want the branch, we can come back and do it there when we're ready to have branches | 18:02 |
| jroll | dhellmann: cool, that's what I assumed, thanks :) | 18:02 |
| dhellmann | jroll: np, thanks for checking | 18:02 |
| jroll | whatever version is latest when you cut branches is fine, we're assuming it's 0.8 for now | 18:02 |
| dhellmann | k | 18:02 |
| dhellmann | we'll coordinate that with everyone when the time comes, so we'll have a chance to double check | 18:03 |
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| dhellmann | morgan: sounds good. Do you want to wait and bump those other items with the scripts, or did you want to do it by hand? | 18:41 |
| morgan | dhellmann: can do it with the scripts | 18:54 |
| morgan | dhellmann: will be easier. | 18:55 |
| dhellmann | sounds good | 18:55 |
| dhellmann | SergeyLukjanov: how are things looking for sahara? | 19:05 |
| dhellmann | asalkeld: how are things looking for heat? I see several "in progress" bugs on https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/liberty-3 -- are those blockers for L3? | 19:11 |
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| dims | dhellmann: ttx: string freeze today? | 19:32 |
| dhellmann | dims: thursday? | 19:33 |
| dims | dhellmann: ok. i saw an email from john - http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-June/065819.html - and was not sure | 19:35 |
| dhellmann | dims: I see 1-3 -- they can certainly freeze early, but I think the expected date is the 3rd | 19:37 |
| dims | thanks dhellmann | 19:37 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | dhellmann, ttx, hi | 19:51 |
| SergeyLukjanov | sahara ready for L3 tag - https://launchpad.net/sahara/+milestone/liberty-3 | 19:52 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I'm proposing to tag a338a9f6b74122033ea8ea94eb3d737bcd2a4691 as L3 | 19:52 |
| dhellmann | SergeyLukjanov: ok, I can do that for you now | 19:55 |
| SergeyLukjanov | dhellmann thank you! | 19:56 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: cool | 19:57 |
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| dhellmann | SergeyLukjanov: tag applied, launchpad is updating now | 20:07 |
| dhellmann | SergeyLukjanov: and, done! | 20:11 |
| SergeyLukjanov | dhellmann thank you! | 20:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nikhil Komawar proposed openstack/releases: Release glance_store 0.9.0 https://review.openstack.org/219889 | 21:48 |
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| asalkeld | dhellmann: just go in | 22:59 |
| asalkeld | just *got* in | 22:59 |
| asalkeld | the gate has really been holding us back | 23:00 |
| asalkeld | I'll push some out of L3, but we still got some time right? | 23:01 |
| dhellmann | asalkeld: we should really tag some time in the next 36 hrs, so you should be considering what's a FFE and what's a blocker | 23:02 |
| asalkeld | ok | 23:05 |
| asalkeld | I'll do that after breakfast | 23:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: improve error reporting https://review.openstack.org/219912 | 23:26 |
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