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| openstackgerrit | John Dickinson proposed openstack/releases: Swfit 2.4.0 release https://review.openstack.org/219119 | 04:35 |
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| notmyname | dhellmann: ttx: ^ | 04:36 |
| notmyname | I think I did that right. please let me know if there is something else you need from me for that | 04:36 |
| notmyname | I've got an email ready to go when it's cut | 04:36 |
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| ttx | notmyname: will do that later tiday and you should be able to send that email when you get up | 07:27 |
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| ttx | starting office hours for those interested | 07:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: happy to catch up | 07:57 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy: o/ | 07:59 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/liberty-3 | 07:59 |
| ttx | let me check what the script suggests | 08:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | so we have quite a few things that I am hoping we could wait a bit for | 08:01 |
| ttx | script suggests nothing. | 08:03 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy: sure, what ? | 08:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | so this one has lots of patches that are close ish: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/request-spec-object | 08:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | I added notes on the ones were I think we can let them go into the RC period, one of those is: | 08:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/liberty-bump-object-and-rpcapi-versions | 08:05 |
| ttx | looking | 08:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | this one I would like to give a chance (although its a long shot): https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/resource-objects | 08:10 |
| ttx | How about you add the ones you'd like to try on the liberty-3 page ? | 08:10 |
| ttx | We'll use the liberty-rc1 page to list the FFEs | 08:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | sounds good | 08:11 |
| ttx | (and the critical release bugs list | 08:11 |
| ttx | ) | 08:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | I just added two to the RC1 page | 08:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | they are both really non-blueprints | 08:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | more just for tracking | 08:11 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy: how about we look at where we stand tomorrow ? Status looks good so far | 08:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, that makes sense | 08:12 |
| ttx | so in summary: | 08:13 |
| ttx | - use liberty-3 to track things you'd like to wait for | 08:13 |
| ttx | - use liberty-rc1 to track FFEs and RC bugs | 08:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am thinking its likely to be a Thursday tagging at this point, thats my gut feeling | 08:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | +1 to those actions, doing that now ish | 08:13 |
| ttx | - RC1 will be tagged "when ready" | 08:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool | 08:14 |
| ttx | - stable branch will be cut before RC1, or when the pressure to unfreeze master is greater than the cost of backporting fixes | 08:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | OK, gotcha | 08:14 |
| ttx | both are more your choice than ours | 08:15 |
| ttx | even if we can help | 08:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | always appreciate the help you folks give us all :) | 08:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | honestly a bit part of me wonders about tagging before RC1, in the hope people get more used to helping with the stable branch, but its feels like a massive risk | 08:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | (and big overhead, if you get the timing wroing) | 08:16 |
| ttx | right, there are two factors in deciding when to cut the release branch (which will become the stable branch) | 08:16 |
| ttx | cost of backporting bugfixes vs. cost of freezing master | 08:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 08:17 |
| ttx | and forced community focus on bugs | 08:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | true | 08:17 |
| ttx | So if you have a giant list of RC bugs, better keep only one frozen branch | 08:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, makes sense | 08:18 |
| ttx | if you only have a couple of them left to fix, no need to freeze everyone else | 08:18 |
| ttx | anyway, will talk again tomorrow | 08:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | sounds good, catch you similar time tommorw | 08:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | thank you! | 08:19 |
| ttx | Kiall, flaper87: I'm around in case you want to sync your liberty-3 status | 08:20 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: same | 08:20 |
| ttx | stevebaker: still around? | 08:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Handle errors from git describe https://review.openstack.org/218892 | 08:31 |
| flaper87 | ttx: thanks, I'm waiting for some patches to land before we can cut l-3 | 08:33 |
| ttx | flaper87: let me look at the sate of the zaqar page | 08:34 |
| ttx | not much to change, are you still expecting persisten-transport to fully land ? | 08:35 |
| ttx | Also we'll defer bugs when we tag | 08:35 |
| flaper87 | yes, persistent transport is the one and there's another one that should be there but if it's not, I'll add it | 08:37 |
| flaper87 | I'll ping you later today/tomorrow | 08:37 |
| ttx | it's not there, so yes, please add it | 08:37 |
| ttx | ok We'll sync again later today/tomorrow | 08:38 |
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| ttx | Kiall, SergeyLukjanov: around ? | 08:49 |
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| stevebaker | ttx: can we sync in ~10 hours? | 09:56 |
| ttx | stevebaker: yes, can do after the TC meeting (at 21:00 utc, while the cross-project meeting runs) | 09:57 |
| ttx | (or dhellmann will be able to pick it up later) | 09:57 |
| stevebaker | ttx: ok, sounds good. | 09:57 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: trying to see how much of release_postversion.sh I can use to do the swift release | 11:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases: Swift 2.4.0 release https://review.openstack.org/219119 | 11:49 |
| dhellmann | ttx: IIRC, it worked for ironic's release, but there may be slight differences | 12:21 |
| ttx | yeah, mostly things it doesn't do (like uploading the tarball) and things it does not need to do (like a release notes email) | 12:21 |
| ttx | so I ended up writing an intermediary.sh to match what I needed it to do | 12:22 |
| ttx | we'll likely have to make them converge | 12:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Swift 2.4.0 release https://review.openstack.org/219119 | 12:23 |
| ttx | we should sit at the summit and devise the big plan for refactoring those tools | 12:23 |
| ttx | because it feels like we keep adding specialty scripts :) | 12:23 |
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| dhellmann | heh, yeah | 12:33 |
| dhellmann | I have a branch started to convert the post version script to python, to make it easier to deal with the yaml file (multiple repos for one deliverable, etc.) and so we only have to provide the keyring password once | 12:34 |
| dhellmann | I'm trying to do that conversion in a way that will make it easy to recompose the results into new tools | 12:35 |
| ttx | notmyname: 2.4.0 tagged, ready for your announce @ https://launchpad.net/swift/liberty/2.4.0 | 12:46 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: one thing we haven't discussed yesterday is how many release management slots we should request | 12:53 |
| ttx | we had one fishbowl and one workroom last time | 12:53 |
| ttx | we used the fishbowl for the stable discussion | 12:53 |
| ttx | maybe same ? | 12:54 |
| dhellmann | so the outside session was the working session? that felt more useful | 13:04 |
| ttx | the outside session was during the meetup I think | 13:04 |
| dhellmann | oh, right | 13:04 |
| dhellmann | what was the working session, then? | 13:04 |
| dhellmann | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-summit-release-track-topic-planning | 13:06 |
| ttx | It was a session on library releases | 13:11 |
| ttx | I would propose one about communicating upcoming changes for mitaka (fishbowl) | 13:11 |
| ttx | and one about coming up with a plan (workroom) | 13:12 |
| ttx | we can use the meetup to start working on refactoring the tools | 13:12 |
| ttx | we can do stable and not stable in parallel, separating them has done us no good in the past | 13:12 |
| ttx | you'll be around Friday afternoon ? we could have a meetup then | 13:14 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I'm not leaving until saturday evening | 13:14 |
| ttx | Friday afternoon meetup rooms are not very expensive | 13:14 |
| dhellmann | there's one direct flight in and out of atlanta each day, and I didn't want to leave in the middle of the day friday | 13:15 |
| ttx | Hah, some projects have requested more slots than there is hours in the day | 13:15 |
| dhellmann | haha | 13:15 |
| dhellmann | maybe we can mix the retrospective I proposed in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-summit-release-track-topic-planning with the mitaka preview session | 13:15 |
| ttx | right | 13:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: Script to release cycle-with-intermediary https://review.openstack.org/219274 | 13:26 |
| ttx | Kiall, SergeyLukjanov, nikhil_k, redrobot: ping me when you have 5 minutes to sync | 13:27 |
| nikhil_k | ttx: hi | 13:36 |
| ttx | nikhil_k: ohai | 13:37 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/liberty-3 | 13:37 |
| ttx | feels empty blueprint-wise, let me see if the script finds something to add | 13:37 |
| ttx | nope... Any blueprint that was finished that should be added there ? | 13:38 |
| ttx | nikhil_k: anything to wait on before tagging ? | 13:38 |
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| nikhil_k | ttx: I was hoping to tag later in the week | 13:39 |
| nikhil_k | ttx: there are a couple BPs that are sitting on minor nits | 13:40 |
| nikhil_k | ttx: Also, I think there's some work on artifacts that isn't tagged on the BP page | 13:40 |
| ttx | nikhil_k: sure, we don't have to do that today. It's just unclear from the l3 page which things you are waiting on | 13:40 |
| nikhil_k | ttx: want ensure we have everything up there | 13:40 |
| ttx | nikhil_k: maybe target the things you'd like to try to get in to liberty-3 so that they show up on our radar too | 13:40 |
| nikhil_k | ttx: I will do that today | 13:40 |
| ttx | nikhil_k: cool, thx. We'll talk again tomorrow when progress has been made and the page is more complete | 13:41 |
| nikhil_k | ttx: sounds good, thanks. | 13:41 |
| nikhil_k | ttx: same time tomorrow? | 13:41 |
| ttx | yep | 13:43 |
| nikhil_k | ttx: ok, thanks/=. | 13:43 |
| nikhil_k | oops | 13:43 |
| nikhil_k | ttx: any way your script can tag bugs for l3 that are already merged? I want to check if we have people assigned on duplicates or not before pinging everyone | 13:48 |
| nikhil_k | by l3 I meant HEAD on master | 13:48 |
| nikhil_k | just curious | 13:49 |
| ttx | ah, you mean, targeting fixcommitted bugs to the milestone ? Yes, I should be able to do that | 13:49 |
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| nikhil_k | ttx: thanks! | 13:52 |
| ttx | nikhil_k: done | 13:54 |
| nikhil_k | ttx: appreciate it | 13:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/releases: Release python-novaclient 2.27.0 https://review.openstack.org/219283 | 13:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/release-tools: clarify duties in library release process https://review.openstack.org/219017 | 14:10 |
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| ttx | bswartz: o/ | 14:17 |
| bswartz | ttx: sorry it took so long to get here | 14:17 |
| ttx | np | 14:17 |
| bswartz | I had meetings.... | 14:17 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/manila/+milestone/liberty-3 | 14:17 |
| bswartz | https://launchpad.net/manila/+milestone/liberty-3 | 14:17 |
| bswartz | oh you have the link already | 14:17 |
| bswartz | this is accurate | 14:17 |
| ttx | Let's see what the script suggests if anything | 14:17 |
| ttx | ok, nothing relevant | 14:18 |
| ttx | So you would like to try to sneak as much as you can on those "needs code review" blueprints ? | 14:18 |
| bswartz | we're targeting L-3 for Thursday at this point | 14:19 |
| ttx | and maybe grant some feature freeze exception to the ones that won't make it, if any ? | 14:19 |
| ttx | (if they are really close) | 14:19 |
| bswartz | most of those will merge before Thursday I think | 14:19 |
| ttx | ok. How about we talk again on Thursday then | 14:19 |
| ttx | bswartz: Keep the list current with what you're waiting on | 14:19 |
| bswartz | I'm telling people anything not merged by Thursday UTC 1500 will need an FFE and we'll hold core team votes during our weekly meeting on those | 14:19 |
| ttx | you can use https://launchpad.net/manila/+milestone/liberty-rc1 to list blueprints where you garnd a feature freeze exception | 14:20 |
| ttx | grant* | 14:20 |
| bswartz | okay | 14:20 |
| ttx | (and release-critical bugs obviously) | 14:20 |
| bswartz | are we using the new release process to create milestones now? | 14:20 |
| ttx | bswartz: not yet for RCs | 14:21 |
| ttx | or betas | 14:21 |
| bswartz | https://github.com/openstack/releases/ | 14:21 |
| bswartz | that tree | 14:21 |
| ttx | we'll still use a manula hand-of for the .0b3 tag | 14:21 |
| ttx | manual* | 14:21 |
| bswartz | I give you the commit hash and you push the tag? | 14:21 |
| ttx | yep | 14:21 |
| bswartz | okay | 14:21 |
| ttx | (or dhellmann if I'm not around | 14:22 |
| ttx | ) | 14:22 |
| bswartz | yeah then I'll be talking to you again in 48 hours | 14:22 |
| ttx | we'll certainly use the repository for the final signoff | 14:22 |
| bswartz | 48 hours should get most of those remaining BPs merged | 14:22 |
| ttx | and maybe for the RCs, still under discussion | 14:22 |
| ttx | so let's talk again on Thursday around this time | 14:22 |
| bswartz | or maybe even all of them! | 14:22 |
| bswartz | sounds good | 14:22 |
| ttx | thx! | 14:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Add initial ironic-lib release https://review.openstack.org/218985 | 14:37 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, hi! | 15:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, can we sync now? | 15:07 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: I'm on a call, maybe dhellmann can sync with you, otherwise, in ~30min | 15:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | okay | 15:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | dhellmann, morning | 15:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I'll be here for ~1.5 hours | 15:08 |
| dhellmann | SergeyLukjanov: I'm here | 15:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: don't assume we will get an existing tag https://review.openstack.org/219308 | 15:12 |
| SergeyLukjanov | dhellmann, Id like | 15:12 |
| SergeyLukjanov | dhellmann, I'd like to sync re L3 and client release | 15:13 |
| dhellmann | SergeyLukjanov: ok, let's look at https://launchpad.net/sahara/+milestone/liberty-3 first | 15:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, I think we'll be ready for client release later today | 15:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and L3 at thu | 15:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | dhellmann, blueprint a bit outdated | 15:13 |
| dhellmann | there are quite a few items on that milestone page that are incomplete, are any of them blockers? | 15:14 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I need to find another place with internet, will be back in 10 mins | 15:15 |
| dhellmann | SergeyLukjanov: ok | 15:15 |
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| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: i'm back too, for ~20min | 15:42 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I'm back | 15:52 |
| SergeyLukjanov | sorry folks, the hotel internet connection is extremey bad | 15:52 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, dhellmann, for the sahara l3 we'd like the following blueprints merged | 15:52 |
| SergeyLukjanov | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sahara/+spec/shared-protected-resources | 15:52 |
| SergeyLukjanov | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sahara/+spec/drop-hadoop-1 | 15:52 |
| SergeyLukjanov | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sahara/+spec/api-for-objects-update | 15:52 |
| SergeyLukjanov | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sahara/+spec/cluster-creation-with-trust | 15:52 |
| SergeyLukjanov | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sahara/+spec/hdp-22-support | 15:52 |
| SergeyLukjanov | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sahara/+spec/recommend-configuration | 15:52 |
| SergeyLukjanov | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sahara/+spec/sahara-heat-wait-conditions | 15:52 |
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| vikram | dhellmann: hi | 15:53 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, I'm proposing to make a L3 Wednesday evening and request FFE for the rest of blueprints | 15:53 |
| SergeyLukjanov | hopefully we'll be able to merge most of them till this time | 15:54 |
| notmyname | ttx: thanks | 15:54 |
| dhellmann | vikram: hi, let me finish helping SergeyLukjanov | 15:54 |
| vikram | dhellmann: no worries | 15:54 |
| ttx | notmyname: I haven't announced it, so feel free to fire your email asap | 15:54 |
| dhellmann | SergeyLukjanov: if you update your launchpad page for l3 to only include the blueprints you actually want to be blocking the tag, that will help us keep track of when you're ready | 15:54 |
| notmyname | ttx: ok. I'll do that shortly | 15:54 |
| SergeyLukjanov | dhellmann, ack, will do | 15:55 |
| notmyname | ttx: also, will respond about session slots via email | 15:55 |
| dhellmann | SergeyLukjanov: FFE is up to you to manage within the project, so you can add anything you want to consider for that to the rc1 milestone | 15:55 |
| ttx | notmyname: read all the replies, I fumbled my counts | 15:55 |
| SergeyLukjanov | dhellmann, so, it's no more needed to discuss FFE with release team? | 15:55 |
| dhellmann | SergeyLukjanov: we only care about what's blocking a given milestone or release, it's up to each team to decide what those things are. We can give you advice if you want it, on each case. | 15:56 |
| SergeyLukjanov | okay | 15:57 |
| dhellmann | SergeyLukjanov: keep in mind that everything you grant an exception for prevents a part of your team from focusing on bug fixes, so you want to balance those 2 duties | 15:57 |
| SergeyLukjanov | dhellmann, yes, sure, I remember about it | 15:57 |
| dhellmann | yep, it's on my checklist to remind you :-) | 15:58 |
| dhellmann | SergeyLukjanov: there are quite a few bugs on the liberty-3 milestone page, too, are any of those blockers for this week's tag? | 15:59 |
| SergeyLukjanov | dhellmann, thx :) that's always better to have reminder than not :0 | 15:59 |
| SergeyLukjanov | dhellmann, I've updated blueprints for https://launchpad.net/sahara/+milestone/liberty-3 and now looking on bugs | 15:59 |
| dhellmann | k | 15:59 |
| notmyname | ttx: announce email sent | 16:00 |
| ttx | and approved | 16:00 |
| notmyname | thanks | 16:00 |
| SergeyLukjanov | dhellmann, nothing important enough to block the L3 | 16:02 |
| dhellmann | SergeyLukjanov: ok, I can use the script to untarget the bugs | 16:02 |
| SergeyLukjanov | dhellmann, no worries, I'll do it by myself | 16:03 |
| dhellmann | SergeyLukjanov: ok, if you'd rather that's fine | 16:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | what will be the l3 process this time? | 16:04 |
| dhellmann | SergeyLukjanov: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Release_Cycle_Management/Milestone_Checklist | 16:04 |
| dhellmann | largely the same as last time, except for considering how to handle RC1 | 16:04 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | dhellmann, ack | 16:05 |
| SergeyLukjanov | dhellmann, should I share the SHA of the commit I think should be tagged or CR to openstack/releases? | 16:06 |
| dhellmann | for the milestone you can just give me the sha when you're ready | 16:06 |
| ttx | dhellmann: I'm pausing for a couple hours before the meeting. I didn't touch base with that many people during my day, so we have a backlog now. I'll try to pick up a few before/after meeting tonight | 16:06 |
| dhellmann | ttx: ack, I'll try to hit as many as I can, too | 16:06 |
| ttx | Missed Kiall, gordc, redrobot in the Central->EMEA zones | 16:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | dhellmann, ack, are you ok with tagging tomorrow evening? | 16:07 |
| dhellmann | SergeyLukjanov: since we don't have a set date for RC1, and we cut the stable branch at the same time, we need to consider how to balance the length of time we freeze master for new features against the amount of work it is to backport bug fixes. We would like to cut RC1 before the end of September, but doing it too soon means potentially more backports. | 16:07 |
| dhellmann | SergeyLukjanov: sure, and if I'm not available ttx or I can tag L3 early Thursday | 16:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | dhellmann, cool, thx | 16:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | dhellmann, yeah, it's very tricky.... | 16:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | IMO there should be at least two full weeks after freeze | 16:08 |
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| redrobot | o/ | 16:20 |
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| notmyname | ttx: so if I understand you correctly, there are 8 slots each day on wednesday and thursday. right? | 16:24 |
| notmyname | ttx: and those are the "normal" 50 min slots? | 16:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Lukjanov proposed openstack/releases: Release liberty "official" python-saharaclient 0.11.0 https://review.openstack.org/219344 | 16:42 |
| SergeyLukjanov | dhellmann, actually we have a client done already | 16:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/releases: Oslo Releases for Sep 1, 2015 https://review.openstack.org/219362 | 17:06 |
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| dhellmann | SergeyLukjanov: ok, I'll cut that client release for you | 17:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | dhellmann, thank you very much! | 17:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | dhellmann, heh, it's my first vacation with so bad internet ;) | 17:10 |
| dhellmann | vikram: sorry for the delay, how can I help? | 17:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Release liberty "official" python-saharaclient 0.11.0 https://review.openstack.org/219344 | 17:12 |
| dims | dhellmann: need to push 3 libs out which have code changes (https://review.openstack.org/219362) - i can take care of it if it looks good to you | 17:20 |
| dhellmann | dims: +2 | 17:29 |
| vikram | dhellmann:hi | 17:30 |
| vikram | dhellmann: I want to make a release for a new repo "networking-onos" | 17:31 |
| vikram | Want to understand how it can be done | 17:31 |
| dhellmann | vikram: ok, good | 17:31 |
| dhellmann | sure | 17:31 |
| dhellmann | at the lowest level the thing that triggers a release is pushing a gpg-signed tag to the gerrit repo | 17:31 |
| dhellmann | you can do that directly, or you can use our release tool scripts, which also record the release in launchpad | 17:32 |
| dhellmann | does the project have its own launchpad page? | 17:32 |
| vikram | is it documented some where? | 17:32 |
| SlickNik | dhellmann / ttx: let me know when's a good time for a quick sync? | 17:32 |
| vikram | ye | 17:32 |
| dhellmann | SlickNik: give me just a few minutes to finish helping vikram and then we can sync up | 17:32 |
| vikram | https://launchpad.net/networking-onos | 17:32 |
| SlickNik | dhellmann: Awesome — I'm around just ping when ready. Thanks! | 17:33 |
| dhellmann | vikram: ok, good. The release tools are documented in http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/release-tools/tree/README.rst | 17:33 |
| dhellmann | vikram: there's a section down at the bottom of that file that explains the basic process | 17:33 |
| vikram | dhellmann: ok let me go through that | 17:34 |
| dhellmann | vikram: the 2 parts that usually trip folks up are setting up the gpg key to sign the tag, and authenticating with launchpad | 17:34 |
| vikram | dhellmann: Ok.. One more query, how the release of the sub-project is done with the official release? | 17:35 |
| vikram | dhellmann: Let's say liberty-3 release for neutron will also do the release of big tent projects? or I need to follow the process as you have mentioned and release of my own? | 17:36 |
| dhellmann | vikram: your project uses the "release:independent" model, so that means the release team won't be doing the release work for you. I can help you get set up, but we only directly release the "release:managed" projects | 17:37 |
| dhellmann | vikram: if you have questions, dims, lifeless, ttx, and I should all be able to help answer them in this channel | 17:37 |
| vikram | dhellmann: thanks a lot dhellmann.. | 17:37 |
| dhellmann | vikram: sure thing, let me know if you have questions after you've had a chance to review the procedures | 17:38 |
| vikram | dhellmann: let me go through the README.rst .. | 17:38 |
| vikram | dhellmann: thanks for your help & guidance | 17:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: add launchpad-login command https://review.openstack.org/219377 | 17:44 |
| dhellmann | vikram: ^^ may help you set up your launchpad credentials | 17:44 |
| dhellmann | SlickNik: ok, I'm ready if you are | 17:45 |
| gordc | ttx: dhellmann: just an fyi, i'm waiting on reviews for 3 bps. one is a single patch remaining, one is partially merged, and the last one is up for review but may need a FFE. | 17:45 |
| dhellmann | gordc: sounds good. If you update your liberty-3 milestone page to reflect that, you'll be all set when they're merged and you're ready to tag | 17:45 |
| vikram | dhellmann: sure | 17:45 |
| gordc | dhellmann: cool cool. thanks | 17:46 |
| SlickNik | dhellmann: Thanks — just wanted to touch base regarding https://launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/liberty-3 | 17:46 |
| dhellmann | SlickNik: yep | 17:46 |
| SlickNik | Still have a few BPs in various stages of undergoing CR or merging. | 17:47 |
| SlickNik | There's a couple I'm going to have to punt to Mitaka since I don't believe we'll be able to make enough progress on them for Liberty. | 17:48 |
| SlickNik | And I'm probably going to need to FFE at least 1 (maybe 2). | 17:48 |
| dhellmann | SlickNik: ok, at this point you should move the FFE item(s) to the rc1 milestone, and move anything else out of L3 that you aren't considering a blocker | 17:49 |
| SlickNik | I plan to have all of this cleaned up and ready to tag by Thursday. | 17:49 |
| dhellmann | this is what our script would do automatically: http://paste.openstack.org/show/438263/ | 17:49 |
| dhellmann | excellent | 17:49 |
| SlickNik | dhellmann: In the process of having conversations with folks before I do just that :) | 17:49 |
| dhellmann | sounds good | 17:49 |
| dhellmann | SlickNik: I have a couple of other reminders: | 17:50 |
| dhellmann | it sounds like you have the FFE thing under control, but keep in mind that every FFE prevents the team from focusing on bug work so you want to minimize those | 17:50 |
| dhellmann | it's up to you to manage them, but we can advise if you want to talk about specific cases | 17:50 |
| dhellmann | because there's no "date" for RC1, we can cut that for you whenever you consider it ready. Keep in mind that we cut the stable branch at the same time, and so from that point on bug fixes need to be backported. | 17:51 |
| dhellmann | that means that although we want to tag RC1 by the end of September, we also want to balance doing that early (to unblock feature work in master) with the effort to handle the backports | 17:51 |
| dhellmann | SlickNik: that's it from me, did you have anything else you wanted to bring up? | 17:52 |
| SlickNik | dhellmann: ++ on the FFE advice — I completely concur and will strive to keep it to a minimum. | 17:52 |
| SlickNik | One thing I'm going to do after the L3 cut is identify the must fix bugs and blockers — I suspect that after these are fixed (+ a little bit of bake time) we should be able to cut RC1. | 17:53 |
| dhellmann | SlickNik: sounds good, this is all just reminders :-) | 17:53 |
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| SlickNik | roger that :) | 17:54 |
| dhellmann | you can use the rc1 milestone to track those | 17:54 |
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| SlickNik | yup, I see that now. | 17:55 |
| SlickNik | That's pretty much all I had. Thanks much! :) | 17:55 |
| dhellmann | SlickNik: great, thanks for checking in and, as usual, let us know if we can help between now and tag-day | 17:55 |
| SlickNik | will do — as an aside, I'm going to be on a plane most of Wednesday, so if anything Trove related does come up in my absence feel free to contact either cp16net or amrith | 17:57 |
| SlickNik | hopefully nothing will, but just in case. | 17:57 |
| SlickNik | Thanks! | 17:57 |
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| dhellmann | SlickNik: thanks for the heads-up, I'll make a note | 18:02 |
| dhellmann | Kiall, redrobot, armax, dougwig, stevebaker : let me know if you have time to sync up for the milestone | 18:04 |
| armax | dhellmann: here | 18:05 |
| dhellmann | hi, armax | 18:05 |
| armax | dhellmann: we still have a few patches in the gate | 18:05 |
| dhellmann | looking over https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/liberty-3 I see there are several open blueprints and bugs -- are all of those blockers? | 18:05 |
| armax | dhellmann: I have been cleaning this up | 18:05 |
| dhellmann | ok, good | 18:06 |
| dhellmann | just to make sure you saw it, ttx created a rc1 milestone that you can use for things you expect to need to treat as a FFE | 18:06 |
| armax | dhellmann: I am thinking we would need at least today to clean this up even further | 18:06 |
| armax | dhellmann: in a way that stuff will move to rc1 | 18:06 |
| dhellmann | you can just remove the target milestone from anything you aren't going to block on | 18:06 |
| armax | dhellmann: I am new to this process though, is that ok? Or do I need to be more aggressive? | 18:06 |
| dhellmann | ok, sounds good | 18:07 |
| armax | dhellmann: I can be more aggressive :) | 18:07 |
| dhellmann | we want to tag by thursday, so if you want to check back in tomorrow that would be good | 18:07 |
| armax | dhellmann: ok will do. | 18:07 |
| dougwig | armax: the pecan bp can be pushed to M. | 18:07 |
| dhellmann | ok, good, I will be out early in the day but expect to be online by this time of day again | 18:07 |
| armax | dhellmann: ok cool | 18:07 |
| armax | dougwig: we were going to merge it back to master | 18:08 |
| armax | dougwig: no? | 18:08 |
| dougwig | armax: i think that bp is done when pecan is the server, which will not be in L. | 18:08 |
| dhellmann | jgriffith: let me know when you have a few minutes to sync up for l3 | 18:15 |
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| Kiall | dhellmann: heh, IRC on my desktop stopped notifying me of mentions it seems. On my way home, tomorrow? | 18:20 |
| dhellmann | Kiall: sure thing, drop by here when you have some time | 18:20 |
| jgriffith | dhellmann: ready when you have an open slot | 18:21 |
| dhellmann | jgriffith: let's do it | 18:21 |
| jgriffith | dhellmann: cool | 18:21 |
| jgriffith | https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/liberty-3 | 18:22 |
| dhellmann | looking at https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/liberty-3 I see some blueprints and bugs still open, are those all blockers? | 18:22 |
| jgriffith | dhellmann: no | 18:22 |
| jgriffith | dhellmann: not blockers | 18:22 |
| dhellmann | ok, good | 18:22 |
| jgriffith | dhellmann: I don't think I'm going to let anything block at this point | 18:22 |
| dhellmann | so there are a couple of ways to update that list | 18:22 |
| dhellmann | I can run the scripts to untarget everything that is open | 18:22 |
| dhellmann | or we can do it by hand if you have a couple of items to keep | 18:22 |
| dhellmann | do you need to move any of those to the rc1 milestone as FFEs? | 18:22 |
| jgriffith | dhellmann: I think by hand... I'm trying to decide which to keep (take it to the very last minute) :) | 18:23 |
| dhellmann | sure, that's fine | 18:23 |
| jgriffith | dhellmann: so that's what I'm considering today... as well as possibly a few of the low priority ones I bumped already | 18:23 |
| dhellmann | ok | 18:23 |
| jgriffith | dhellmann: so I'm struggling with one inparticular, perhaps you could provide your input :) | 18:23 |
| dhellmann | I can try | 18:23 |
| jgriffith | dhellmann: object versioning for volumes | 18:24 |
| jgriffith | dhellmann: HUGE patch (1500 lines) | 18:24 |
| dhellmann | yeah, that sounds, just from the description, like a large architectural change to be making this late | 18:24 |
| jgriffith | but if it slips again, that's n+1 before cinder finally gets rolling upgrades | 18:24 |
| jgriffith | yeah... on the surface I said no way | 18:24 |
| jgriffith | yeah, I know the right answer here... just trying to figure out if I can convince myself otherwise :) | 18:25 |
| dhellmann | sure | 18:25 |
| jgriffith | anyway... other than that... | 18:25 |
| jgriffith | I'd like to stretch this out til tomorrow evening if possible? | 18:25 |
| jgriffith | dhellmann: do the cinder weekly meeting at 16:00 tomorow make sure everything looks ok, then roll with it | 18:26 |
| jgriffith | dhellmann: that work? | 18:26 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I'll make a note that you'll check in with us tomorrow | 18:26 |
| jgriffith | Ok, perfect | 18:26 |
| jgriffith | That's about all I have... only other question was on client side | 18:26 |
| jgriffith | I'm assuming that's part of dependency freeze and release team? | 18:27 |
| dhellmann | we can do a client release whenever you're ready | 18:27 |
| jgriffith | dhellmann: Ok, I'll poke at that today and make sure it's *ready*ish | 18:27 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I think we'll be making some exceptions for our own libs | 18:27 |
| dhellmann | jgriffith: sounds good. Are you familiar with the new process for that? | 18:27 |
| jgriffith | dhellmann: ok, that answer my question on that | 18:27 |
| jgriffith | dhellmann: not completely no :( | 18:27 |
| dhellmann | ok, it's not hard -- have a look at the openstack/releases repository. In the deliverables directory, you'll find $SERIES/$PROJECT.yaml files | 18:28 |
| dhellmann | the readme should explain what to do, but I'm available to answer questions as well | 18:28 |
| jgriffith | dhellmann: sounds good, sure I can fumble through it | 18:28 |
| dhellmann | basically you need to tell us a version number and a sha | 18:28 |
| jgriffith | if not I'll shout | 18:28 |
| dhellmann | yep | 18:28 |
| jgriffith | dhellmann: ahh... ok, ez enough | 18:28 |
| dhellmann | dims and lifeless both know that process, too, if I'm not online | 18:28 |
| jgriffith | cool | 18:29 |
| jgriffith | I think that's about all I've got then | 18:29 |
| dhellmann | ok, great, thanks! | 18:29 |
| jgriffith | dhellmann: thanks to you! | 18:29 |
| jgriffith | cya in a bit | 18:29 |
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| redrobot | dhellmann hello! | 18:42 |
| redrobot | dhellmann I'm hoping we can wait to tag Barbican until Thursday | 18:42 |
| dhellmann | redrobot:yep, just wanted to sync up on where things stand before then | 18:44 |
| dhellmann | redrobot: for example, https://launchpad.net/barbican/+milestone/liberty-3 is looking pretty empty | 18:45 |
| redrobot | dhellmann yeah... I need to spend some time cleaning that up and targeting bugs/specs | 18:45 |
| dhellmann | k | 18:45 |
| redrobot | dhellmann it's currently not accurate | 18:46 |
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| bdemers | to request a new release via the _new_ process, all i need to do is create a yaml file for a given project name, similar to what was done here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217766/ ? | 18:49 |
| bdemers | and are the releases cut automaticly once it gets merged ? | 18:49 |
| dhellmann | bdemers: which project? | 18:50 |
| dhellmann | bdemers: that repo is currently only being used for managed projects | 18:50 |
| bdemers | openstack/networking-cisco | 18:50 |
| bdemers | it doesn’t have an entry yet, i can add one, but want to make sure i’m doing the right thing first | 18:51 |
| dhellmann | bdemers: that project is listed as release:independent, so you would not request a release through the releases repository | 18:52 |
| dhellmann | you, or someone else on the release team for the project, can tag the release directly | 18:52 |
| dhellmann | if you have a launchpad page set up for the project, you can use the tools in the openstack-infra/release-tools repository | 18:52 |
| dhellmann | there's a README there that explains how to use the tools, and we can help you if you have questions from there | 18:53 |
| bdemers | dhellmann: is it advantageous for us to use openstack/release instead ? | 18:56 |
| bdemers | it seems like openstack/release is the way forward? though, i’m slightly more confused now then before i started asking about this :D | 18:57 |
| dhellmann | bdemers: I don't think it's really an option for your project at this point | 18:57 |
| dhellmann | when we have the release process fully automated, we may open it up to unmanaged projects, but for now we're still doing the releases by hand ourselves | 18:58 |
| bdemers | what makes a project not independent ? | 18:59 |
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| dhellmann | the project asks for it, and we agree to take on the work. We've not done that yet for the neutron extension projects. | 18:59 |
| dhellmann | there are just too many of you, frankly, for us to do that until we have more automation in place. | 19:00 |
| bdemers | ok, so does openstack/release just wrap the openstack-infra/release-tools bits ? | 19:00 |
| dhellmann | yes | 19:00 |
| dhellmann | and the automation isn't complete, so part of the wrapper is a member of the release team :-) | 19:01 |
| bdemers | ok, so I _should_ be able to hack on this then ? | 19:01 |
| bdemers | where does the current automation start/stop | 19:01 |
| bdemers | or have holes ? | 19:01 |
| dhellmann | the scripts all work, it's a matter of setting up a job with a trusted gpg key | 19:02 |
| dhellmann | are you using the same versioning as neutron? | 19:02 |
| bdemers | same major.minor in kilo | 19:03 |
| dhellmann | the setup.cfg for networking-cisco has an old version # that doesn't match what neutron is using | 19:03 |
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| dhellmann | are you releasing for kilo or liberty? | 19:03 |
| bdemers | kilo | 19:03 |
| dhellmann | ah, ok | 19:03 |
| dhellmann | so you're releasing from the stable/kilo branch? | 19:04 |
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| bdemers | for libery going forward, i assume we want to be independ of the neutron version, but that likely needs more disussion | 19:04 |
| bdemers | yeah, from stable/kilo | 19:04 |
| dhellmann | ok | 19:04 |
| dhellmann | the scripts may be less helpful, then, since most of them are anticipating post-versioning style projects | 19:06 |
| dhellmann | bdemers: have a look at the rcdelivery.sh script | 19:07 |
| dhellmann | bdemers: you may also want to consult with ttx tomorrow, since he has more experience with pre-version project releases | 19:08 |
| bdemers | will do, thanks! | 19:11 |
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| bdemers | ttx: good timing, not much scroll back, see above | 19:36 |
| ttx | dhellmann: who do we have left to sync up with ? David, Morgan and Steve ? | 19:37 |
| ttx | bdemers: reading | 19:37 |
| dhellmann | ttx: we had a few who wanted to come back tomorrow after cleaning up the milestone page | 19:38 |
| dhellmann | ttx: morgan was one of those, only stevebaker and david-lyle have been completely absent so far, and steve has a note he'll be around at some point today | 19:39 |
| stevebaker | dhellmann: I'm ready now if you like | 19:40 |
| stevebaker | ttx: ^ | 19:40 |
| ttx | bdemers: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranchRelease has a process for stable releases | 19:40 |
| dhellmann | stevebaker: hi! | 19:40 |
| dhellmann | stevebaker: looking over https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/liberty-3 now | 19:40 |
| stevebaker | dhellmann: hey | 19:41 |
| dhellmann | I see a few blueprints that are in progress, are those blockers? | 19:41 |
| ttx | bdemers: it's mostly about pushing a tag and then get the launchpad page (if you have any) aligned | 19:41 |
| dhellmann | ttx: I wasn't sure if any of our scripts that do things with tarballs would help | 19:41 |
| dhellmann | none seemed to quite match up with a final release | 19:41 |
| ttx | I'm mostly blind to that process, been handled by stable branch managers | 19:41 |
| dhellmann | ah | 19:42 |
| stevebaker | dhellmann: they are not blockers, but I'd like them to be considered for FFE so have left them there and set them High | 19:42 |
| ttx | dhellmann: and they use a lot of manual steps | 19:42 |
| bdemers | ttx: is there any limit to how often we can release, (i.e. up to a release for every bug fix on stable) | 19:42 |
| dhellmann | stevebaker: ok, you can move those to the new rc1 milestone to track them as FFEs there -- and FFEs are up to you to sign-off on, though we'll be happy to consult if you need an outside opinion | 19:42 |
| dhellmann | ttx: that's what I thought | 19:42 |
| ttx | bdemers: back in kilo the versioning scheme was different, so you would issue 2015.1.z | 19:43 |
| ttx | and traditionally that would be bumped at the same time as neutron is | 19:43 |
| dhellmann | stevebaker: the same question applies to the open bugs -- those are easy to move out of the milestone with a script if you'd like | 19:43 |
| bdemers | but we _can_ release at a different cadence as neutron right ? | 19:44 |
| ttx | bdemers: neutron stadium releases are a bit of a grey area, and stable/kilo is completely dark since those repos didn't really exist back then | 19:44 |
| bdemers | right | 19:44 |
| stevebaker | dhellmann: there are no blocker bugs I believe | 19:44 |
| ttx | bdemers: which is why it's easier to start with liberty and use semver x.y.z still versioning. Then yes, you could in theory release for every fix | 19:44 |
| dhellmann | stevebaker: ok, I can run the script to clean those up at any point, so let me know if you want me to do that or take a look at them all by hand first | 19:45 |
| stevebaker | dhellmann: ok. will you cut the release at any time? | 19:46 |
| bdemers | i figured liberty would be much easier, but tring to nail down some kilo work with before libery is cut | 19:46 |
| ttx | bdemers: difficult to have that discussion with mestery on holiday, but I suspect he had an idea of how those would be released and if stable/kilo releases would make sense or not | 19:46 |
| bdemers | :q | 19:46 |
| dhellmann | stevebaker: I'll tag the L3 milestone when you give the go-ahead | 19:46 |
| dhellmann | stevebaker: we'd like to do that by thursday | 19:46 |
| ttx | bdemers: let me check if there are tarball jobs set up | 19:47 |
| bdemers | ttx: ok, does mestery ususally hang out in this room ? | 19:47 |
| ttx | bdemers: he does, but he is away this week | 19:47 |
| dhellmann | stevebaker: then for RC1, we would like to have that by the end of september, but you'll want to balance doing it early with the extra work for back-porting bug fixes | 19:47 |
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| ttx | bdemers: jobs appear to be up and publishing to http://tarballs.openstack.org/networking-cisco/ | 19:48 |
| stevebaker | dhellmann, ttx: I'm on PTO next 2 days but will be back on your Friday. asalkeld has agreed to do go-ahead duties | 19:48 |
| ttx | bdemers: and there was a 2015.1.0 posted there some time ago | 19:48 |
| dhellmann | stevebaker: ok, I'll make a note of that | 19:48 |
| stevebaker | dhellmann: thanks | 19:48 |
| ttx | bdemers: pushing a 2015.1.1 tag to stable/kilo current head should do it | 19:49 |
| ttx | Sam Betts did that for 2015.1.0 | 19:49 |
| bdemers | ttx: cool, i’ll chat with sam when he is back on in the morning | 19:50 |
| ttx | pushing a tag is just about using git tag -s then git push | 19:50 |
| bdemers | yeah, but i doubt i have privs for that | 19:51 |
| david-lyle | dhellmann: what have I been missing ? | 19:51 |
| david-lyle | :) | 19:51 |
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| stevebaker | ttx: can I get back to you about Heat summit space needs in 12 hours? (after the heat meeting) | 19:54 |
| ttx | stevebaker: sure | 19:55 |
| ttx | david-lyle: we could catch up after the TC meeting | 19:55 |
| david-lyle | ttx: sure | 19:55 |
| dhellmann | david-lyle: what ttx said :-) | 19:55 |
| david-lyle | just saw my name fly by | 19:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/releases: Release os-brick 0.4.0 https://review.openstack.org/219013 | 19:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Oslo Releases for Sep 1, 2015 https://review.openstack.org/219362 | 20:05 |
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| dhellmann | david-lyle: shall we sync up for L3? | 21:05 |
| david-lyle | dhellmann: sure, was cleaning up the status | 21:08 |
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| dhellmann | ok, I see 2 open blueprints on https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/liberty-3 and several bugs, are those blockers for the L3 tag? | 21:09 |
| david-lyle | no, the critical bug has been resolved, updating | 21:10 |
| david-lyle | and 1 of the 2 bps won't make it, so I moved it out | 21:10 |
| david-lyle | I expect a couple more to merge in by tag time | 21:10 |
| dhellmann | ok. if you have anything you want to hold as a FFE, you can put that in the new rc1 milestone to track it | 21:10 |
| david-lyle | I'm sure we'll have ~5 | 21:10 |
| dhellmann | the scripts will clear out any open blueprints or bugs when I run it when you're ready to tag | 21:10 |
| david-lyle | we get later items | 21:11 |
| dhellmann | right | 21:11 |
| dhellmann | you've done this before, but just as a reminder: there's no specific date for the RC1 tag & branch operation, but we'd like to do it by the end of september | 21:11 |
| david-lyle | ok, we can handle that | 21:11 |
| dhellmann | picking the date means balancing the needs of bug work, FFEs, etc. with the desire to open master back up for full feature work | 21:12 |
| dhellmann | we'll leave FFE management up to you, as well as that date | 21:12 |
| david-lyle | right and we'll have an RC-2 for final translations at a minimum | 21:12 |
| dhellmann | so let us know when you're ready and we'll coordinate the steps needed to make the rc1 | 21:12 |
| dhellmann | makes sense | 21:12 |
| david-lyle | I've worked that out with Daisy already | 21:12 |
| dhellmann | great! | 21:13 |
| david-lyle | ack, on RC-1 | 21:13 |
| dhellmann | ok, did you have any questions for us? | 21:14 |
| david-lyle | we're target Thursday for the L-3 tag, correct? | 21:14 |
| dhellmann | yes, and we can do it earlier if those patches land | 21:14 |
| david-lyle | thursday is better :) | 21:14 |
| david-lyle | less FFE, hopefully | 21:15 |
| dhellmann | I've been hearing that a lot today | 21:15 |
| dhellmann | :-) | 21:15 |
| david-lyle | I bet | 21:15 |
| dhellmann | anything else? | 21:15 |
| david-lyle | that's it for now, I'll need one more django_openstack_auth release, probably around Thursday as well | 21:16 |
| dhellmann | ok, that can happen whenever you're ready | 21:16 |
| david-lyle | update from g-r and another pending change | 21:16 |
| david-lyle | ok, I'll ping you when we're ready | 21:16 |
| dhellmann | yep, we'll have a round of other lib releases for the same reasons | 21:16 |
| dhellmann | sounds good, just check back in here with me or ttx when you're ready for the tag on the horizon repo | 21:16 |
| david-lyle | will do. Thanks! | 21:17 |
| dhellmann | david-lyle: thanks! | 21:17 |
| lifeless | double checking | 21:33 |
| lifeless | is requirements in freeze now ? | 21:33 |
| lifeless | ttx: ^ | 21:33 |
| ttx | lifeless: no | 21:37 |
| ttx | lifeless: will be soft-frozen (i.e. require exceptions / good reasons) startign Friday | 21:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: group service and library projects separately https://review.openstack.org/219465 | 21:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: show more of the release summary in table https://review.openstack.org/219466 | 21:40 |
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| morgan | dhellmann, ttx: tomorrow we should be ready to release keystoneauth 1.x it looks like | 22:35 |
| morgan | dhellmann, ttx: i'll post to the repo so we can add it to g-r (will make SDK team happy) | 22:35 |
| morgan | before the soft-freeze | 22:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/releases: Release python-ironicclient 0.8.0 https://review.openstack.org/219476 | 22:42 |
| jroll | dhellmann: going to check with ironic folks a bit on that but I think we're good to go here ^ | 22:43 |
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