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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo-specs master: Switch to openstackdocstheme https://review.openstack.org/648731 | 14:41 |
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| bnemec | #startmeeting oslo | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 1 15:01:02 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bnemec. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 15:01 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, ansmith, bnemec, dansmith, dims, dougwig | 15:01 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for e0ne, electrocucaracha, garyk, gcb, haypo, hberaud, jd__ | 15:01 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lhx_, moguimar, njohnston | 15:01 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for raildo, redrobot, sileht, sreshetnyak, stephenfin, stevemar, therve | 15:01 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for thinrichs, toabctl, zhiyan, zxy, zzzeek | 15:01 |
| bnemec | To be added or removed from the ping list, please submit a patch to http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo.tools/tree/ping_me.py | 15:01 |
| bnemec | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting | 15:01 |
| hberaud | o/ | 15:01 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 15:01 |
| kgiusti | o/ | 15:02 |
| johnsom | o/ | 15:02 |
| redrobot | \o | 15:02 |
| stephenfin | o/ | 15:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/oslo.tools master: Remove dansmith from ping_me.py https://review.openstack.org/649056 | 15:02 |
| bnemec | Just FYI, this will be my last Oslo meeting. I won the lottery and am retiring to a tropical island in the Caribbean. | 15:02 |
| * dansmith chuckles | 15:02 | |
| bnemec | (someone had to) | 15:02 |
| jungleboyj | He he. | 15:03 |
| njohnston | o/ | 15:04 |
| * bnemec should have merged the unrolling patch before adding the instructions for the ping list. | 15:04 | |
| hberaud | tropical island... strange choice | 15:04 |
| bnemec | Now they're all going to merge conflict. | 15:04 |
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| bnemec | hberaud: I happen to like the ocean, despite my distinctly non-oceanic current location. :-) | 15:05 |
| bnemec | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:05 | |
| bnemec | The big thing from last week was that oslosphinx is no longer working. | 15:05 |
| jungleboyj | Nothing that I am aware of from Cinder. | 15:05 |
| johnsom | Nothing from Octavia | 15:05 |
| bnemec | Which _shouldn't_ be a problem since that project has been retired for years, but quite a few projects are still using it. | 15:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.tools master: Include add/remove info in ping script output https://review.openstack.org/647535 | 15:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.tools master: Unroll the ping list https://review.openstack.org/647536 | 15:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.tools master: Remove flaper87 from ping list https://review.openstack.org/647537 | 15:06 |
| hberaud | bnemec: I hope you'll love it | 15:06 |
| bnemec | Including a couple of oslo projects, unfortunately. | 15:06 |
| bnemec | stephenfin sent a message to openstack-discuss about the oslosphinx thing. | 15:06 |
| * bnemec finds the link | 15:07 | |
| bnemec | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-March/004368.html | 15:07 |
| bnemec | If you have any questions about this, I recommend asking him. | 15:07 |
| bnemec | I will answer what I can, but he's the docs expert. | 15:07 |
| stephenfin | I need to work through the retirement process for the repo itself. I'll probably wait til the end of the week for that | 15:07 |
| bnemec | stephenfin: Sounds good, thanks. | 15:08 |
| bnemec | I guess the only other thing we ran into last week was that oslo.db's lower-constraints didn't work with postgresql 10. | 15:09 |
| bnemec | Not sure that would affect most people, but FYI in case you're still running an older version of psycopg. | 15:10 |
| bnemec | #topic Releases | 15:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Releases (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:10 | |
| bnemec | We released oslo.db for stein last week. | 15:11 |
| bnemec | Which is noteworthy because it was a feature release on a stable branch. | 15:11 |
| bnemec | But it was needed to fix the issue I just mentioned (changing requirements forces a feature release). | 15:11 |
| bnemec | Because of that problem, I've been holding off on doing any other master releases in case we happen to run into a similar situation with another library. | 15:12 |
| bnemec | I'd rather not get into a situation where we released master and can't fix something in stein as a result. | 15:12 |
| bnemec | Will still be holding off on releases for this week, but we'll get everything released soon since I think this is release week for Stein. | 15:14 |
| bnemec | At least I assume it is since the release update email last week was R-1. :-) | 15:14 |
| bnemec | #topic Action items from last meeting | 15:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from last meeting (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:15 | |
| bnemec | "bnemec to rebase https://review.openstack.org/#/c/597612" | 15:15 |
| bnemec | Done | 15:15 |
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| bnemec | Finally went a week without merge conflicting that one. :-) | 15:15 |
| bnemec | "Oslo cores to single approve git -> https patches" | 15:16 |
| bnemec | I believe that's pretty much done. | 15:16 |
| bnemec | There might be a few that ran into ci failures that are still open, but I saw a lot of them merge last week. | 15:16 |
| bnemec | And that was it for action items. | 15:16 |
| bnemec | #topic PTG Schedule | 15:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG Schedule (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:17 | |
| bnemec | #link https://www.openstack.org/ptg#tab_schedule | 15:17 |
| bnemec | FYI for anyone who didn't see this on the list. | 15:17 |
| bnemec | Oslo has a day, but split over two days. | 15:17 |
| bnemec | Friday afternoon and Saturday morning. | 15:17 |
| bnemec | If anyone is flying out Friday night please let me know so we can get your topics discussed in the Friday session. | 15:18 |
| bnemec | I've heard a fair number of people are doing that. | 15:18 |
| bnemec | #topic PTG Team Photo | 15:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG Team Photo (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:19 | |
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| bnemec | We haven't actually done one of these since I've been PTL because I'm camera-shy, but if anyone wants to do a team photo let me know. :-) | 15:20 |
| bnemec | We're a pretty small team so it shouldn't be too hard to get us all together at once. | 15:20 |
| bnemec | That was it for the agenda this week. | 15:21 |
| bnemec | #topic Weekly Wayward Review | 15:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Weekly Wayward Review (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:21 | |
| bnemec | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/597612/ | 15:21 |
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| bnemec | And kgiusti already approved it so that's it for this topic. :-) | 15:22 |
| kgiusti | :D | 15:22 |
| hberaud | can you take a look for the workflow part on it please => https://review.openstack.org/645203 | 15:22 |
| bnemec | hberaud: I'll take a look after the meeting. Seems like it should be fine though. | 15:23 |
| hberaud | bnemec: thanks | 15:24 |
| bnemec | #topic PTG Topics | 15:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG Topics (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:24 | |
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| bnemec | I guess I should have mentioned this earlier, but a reminder that there is an etherpad for PTG topics. | 15:24 |
| bnemec | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-train-topics | 15:24 |
| bnemec | If you have anything to discuss face-to-face, please add it there. | 15:24 |
| johnsom | Has there been any talk of adding etcd as a backend for TaskFlow? I.e. an alternative to zookeeper/redis? | 15:25 |
| bnemec | johnsom: There's hasn't been a lot of taskflow talk, period. :-/ | 15:25 |
| johnsom | Etcd is a “base service” so it might be nice to have that as an option. | 15:25 |
| bnemec | Agreed. | 15:25 |
| johnsom | Ok. | 15:26 |
| bnemec | Is taskflow using tooz to talk to the backend? | 15:26 |
| bnemec | If so, it might already work. | 15:26 |
| johnsom | I don’t think that got done. | 15:27 |
| johnsom | Not sure though | 15:27 |
| bnemec | Okay | 15:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/oslosphinx master: Retire oslosphinx https://review.openstack.org/649070 | 15:27 |
| * bnemec doesn't know much about taskflow | 15:27 | |
| bnemec | Last I heard, there was some talk about moving it out of openstack, but I don't think anything ever came of it. | 15:28 |
| johnsom | Right, I remember that too | 15:28 |
| bnemec | We had also discussed keeping it where it is, but adopting a single +2 policy since there are so few contributors. | 15:28 |
| johnsom | We are looking at taking the next step and enabling jobboard, so I was curious about the state of etcd support. | 15:29 |
| bnemec | For now, I would say it's in maintenance mode. We'll keep it working, but nobody is doing feature development that I'm aware of. | 15:29 |
| johnsom | Yeah, that was my feeling as well. | 15:30 |
| bnemec | #topic Open discussion | 15:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:30 | |
| bnemec | I guess we're kind of there already, but if anyone has topics to discuss before we close, now is the time. | 15:30 |
| bnemec | #action bnemec to review https://review.openstack.org/645203 | 15:32 |
| bnemec | Alright, looks like we're done. | 15:32 |
| bnemec | Thanks for joining everyone! | 15:32 |
| bnemec | #endmeeting | 15:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Common Libraries | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo" | 15:32 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 1 15:32:58 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2019/oslo.2019-04-01-15.01.html | 15:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2019/oslo.2019-04-01-15.01.txt | 15:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2019/oslo.2019-04-01-15.01.log.html | 15:33 |
| gsantomaggio | Hello, | 15:36 |
| gsantomaggio | I'd like to implement a sort of backoff pattern for queue declare: | 15:36 |
| gsantomaggio | https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/blob/master/oslo_messaging/_drivers/impl_rabbit.py#L262 | 15:36 |
| gsantomaggio | to handle situation like this: | 15:36 |
| gsantomaggio | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rabbitmq-users/santomaggio%7Csort:date/rabbitmq-users/xEWZCmPXI-Q/38w8sW87FgAJ | 15:36 |
| gsantomaggio | jus re-try X ( maybe configurable ) time the queue creation | 15:36 |
| gsantomaggio | does it make sense to you? | 15:37 |
| gsantomaggio | right now we just raise an error, would be useful to retry, no ?! | 15:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/sphinx-feature-classification master: releasenotes: Switch to openstackdocstheme https://review.openstack.org/649075 | 15:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/sphinx-feature-classification master: releasenotes: Remove crud from 'conf.py' https://review.openstack.org/649076 | 15:40 |
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| kgiusti | gsantomaggio: the ensure method in impl_rabbit Connection class is meant to perform retries on various recoverable failures | 15:46 |
| kgiusti | gsantomaggio: it uses a backoff mechanism from the kombu layer | 15:46 |
| kgiusti | gsantomaggio: is that not working in this case? | 15:47 |
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| dansmith | bnemec: can you hit this for me? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/649056/ | 16:00 |
| bnemec | dansmith: Yes, but it'll need a rebase because we reformatted the list to prevent merge conflicts. :-/ | 16:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.messaging stable/rocky: Replace openstack.org git:// URLs with https:// https://review.openstack.org/646879 | 16:10 |
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| dansmith | bnemec: orly? I just pulled that this morning | 17:05 |
| bnemec | dansmith: Yeah, the patch merged during the meeting. | 17:05 |
| dansmith | hah, wonderful | 17:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/oslo.tools master: Remove dansmith from ping_me.py https://review.openstack.org/649056 | 17:13 |
| dansmith | bnemec: ^ | 17:13 |
| dansmith | and stephenfin ^ | 17:15 |
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| bnemec | dansmith: +2a | 17:15 |
| dansmith | bnemec: thanks | 17:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.tools master: Remove dansmith from ping_me.py https://review.openstack.org/649056 | 17:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-dev/pbr master: Support provides_extra metadata https://review.openstack.org/597612 | 17:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-dev/pbr master: Typo fix: s/extract_mesages/extract_messages/ https://review.openstack.org/644942 | 17:20 |
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| gsantomaggio | @kgiusti no, it seems that it does not work in this situation. We have had this problem | 17:45 |
| gsantomaggio | @kgiusti I will try to reproduce the problem using olso | 17:46 |
| gsantomaggio | using pyamqp is very easy | 17:46 |
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| eandersson | Thanks dougwig for getting that merged so fast | 17:50 |
| eandersson | Ops wrong dougwig :p | 17:50 |
| eandersson | Meant Doug Hellmann | 17:50 |
| dhellmann | eandersson : no problem :-) | 17:52 |
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| dougwig | No worries here, either. :) | 17:56 |
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