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| dims | dukhlov : dmitryme : does this look good to you? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285880/ | 13:21 |
| patchbot | dims: patch 285880 - oslo.messaging - Fail quickly if there on bad password | 13:21 |
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| dims | dukhlov : dmitryme : i tested with nova conductor and the tracebacks look like this - http://paste.openstack.org/show/488749/ | 13:23 |
| dims | better than the old "Socket Closed" we used to see | 13:24 |
| dukhlov | dims: no objections from my side | 13:26 |
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| ajo | ping dansmith | 14:06 |
| ajo | can I ask from some help ? | 14:06 |
| ajo | related to oslo_versionedobjects ? | 14:06 |
| dims | that reminds me, dansmith, there's a couple of reviews pending that bknudson and i were not sure if we needed them for Mitaka - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/oslo.versionedobjects+is:open | 14:09 |
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| ajo | dansmith, ping | 14:31 |
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| dansmith | ajo: ack | 14:33 |
| ajo | dansmith, can you help me with something related to oslo_versioned objects? | 14:34 |
| ajo | 1 sec, let me submit a second patch derivate from other people's work I'm trying to help with | 14:34 |
| ajo | with->to | 14:34 |
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| dansmith | ajo: I just got up and have a stack of pings, so yes, but it might be a few | 14:35 |
| ajo | dansmith: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286631/1/neutron/objects/qos/policy.py | 14:37 |
| patchbot | ajo: patch 286631 - neutron - (WIP) just for sharing | 14:37 |
| ajo | and | 14:37 |
| ajo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286631/1/neutron/objects/qos/rule.py | 14:37 |
| patchbot | ajo: patch 286631 - neutron - (WIP) just for sharing | 14:37 |
| dansmith | dims: did all but the last one, will do that in a sec | 14:37 |
| dims | thanks dansmith | 14:37 |
| ajo | dansmith, : we have a QoSRule object (listed from QoSPolicy) | 14:37 |
| ajo | and QoSRule is subclassed | 14:38 |
| ajo | we added a new version of the object | 14:38 |
| ajo | by adding a new possible subclass: QoSDscpMarkingRule | 14:38 |
| dmitryme | @dims: yep, looks good to me | 14:38 |
| ajo | we pass QoSPolicy generally, and we need the list of QoSRules to be downgraded | 14:38 |
| ajo | when we convert QoSPolicy to tgt_version='1.0' | 14:39 |
| ajo | so dscp marking rules go away | 14:39 |
| ajo | if I do https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286631/1/neutron/objects/qos/rule.py@114 | 14:39 |
| patchbot | ajo: patch 286631 - neutron - (WIP) just for sharing | 14:39 |
| ajo | the whole rules dict is erased | 14:39 |
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| ajo | while I wanted QoSBandwidthLimitRule to remain in the list | 14:40 |
| dansmith | ajo: yeah so you need to handle that in your QosPolicy object | 14:40 |
| ajo | dansmith, : http://paste.openstack.org/show/488762/ | 14:41 |
| ajo | dansmith, should I manipulate the primitive manually ? | 14:41 |
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| dansmith | ajo: yeah, the obj_make_compatible() is when you get to hack on the primitive, so just filtering out any of the newer object rules there before you call super() would be the way Ithink | 14:42 |
| ajo | dansmith, ok , ihrachys ^ | 14:44 |
| ajo | please note it, when you review the code :) | 14:44 |
| ajo | dansmith, I was unsure if I was supposed to mess with the primitive myself | 14:45 |
| dansmith | ajo: yeah, let me get you a nova example | 14:45 |
| ajo | dansmith would it make sense to add another type of exception, or to be able to handle that exception while iterating over a list ? | 14:45 |
| ajo | dansmith, so we'd be able just to remove items from a list when that exception is rised | 14:45 |
| ajo | instead of killing the whole parent attribute | 14:46 |
| ajo | I guess it only makes sense for subclasses on a list | 14:46 |
| dansmith | it does, but it seems like a reasonable thing to do, but not for mitaka | 14:46 |
| dansmith | ajo: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/service.py#L139-L168 | 14:46 |
| ajo | dansmith, thanks :) | 14:46 |
| dansmith | ajo: in there, we delete attributes that were added in newer versions, and fill in legacy attributes that we no longer populate, unless we have to backport | 14:47 |
| ajo | dansmith, what's the difference between obj_make_compatible and obj_make_compatible_from_manifest ? | 14:47 |
| dansmith | ajo: from_manifest is the newer one, but it might not matter for you if you are pre-backporting objects | 14:48 |
| dansmith | ajo: in nova, instead of using the obj_relationships map, an older node asks conductor to backport an object for it, and provides a manifest of all the objects and versions it knows about so that conductor can do what it needs | 14:48 |
| dansmith | makes things a ton easier | 14:49 |
| dansmith | but if you're pre-backporting things (i.e. pinning object versions) then it won't help you | 14:49 |
| ajo | dansmith, in neutron we're doing a wild thing :) may be I can share it with you next day (when I'm not running against FF) | 14:50 |
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| dansmith | ajo: sure | 14:50 |
| ajo | dansmith, we push/fanout some versioned objects | 14:50 |
| dansmith | ajo: oh...my :) | 14:50 |
| ajo | so we added an algorithm to discover the subscribers versions | 14:50 |
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| ajo | (basically agents) | 14:50 |
| ajo | and we re-send the objects in every possible version (auto-discovered) | 14:50 |
| ajo | :) | 14:50 |
| ajo | ok, let me try to see if I got it right then. | 14:51 |
| ajo | dansmith, last question (hopefully) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286631/1/neutron/objects/qos/rule.py should I bump the version in top class or should I bump it per-sub-object (not sure if that makes any sense at all) | 14:52 |
| patchbot | ajo: patch 286631 - neutron - (WIP) just for sharing | 14:52 |
| ajo | where sub-object = sub-class | 14:52 |
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| ajo | dansmith, something like this looks right: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286631/2/neutron/objects/qos/policy.py@213 ? | 15:24 |
| patchbot | ajo: patch 286631 - neutron - (WIP) just for sharing | 15:24 |
| ajo | it works | 15:24 |
| dansmith | ajo: sure | 15:24 |
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| dims | krotscheck : i don't see any movement in oslo-config-generator adoption by ironic any time soon, so that's a dead end | 16:32 |
| krotscheck | dims: I suspect this'll be up to the release manager to escalate. | 16:33 |
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| dims | dhellmann : we are talking about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247331/ fyi | 16:34 |
| patchbot | dims: patch 247331 - ironic - Make use of oslo-config-generator (ABANDONED) | 16:34 |
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| dhellmann | dims : what's the issue? | 16:37 |
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| dims | dhellmann : https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/common/config_generator/generator.py | 16:37 |
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| dims | dhellmann : they don't use oslo-config-generator | 16:37 |
| dhellmann | that's unfortunate, what is it blocking? | 16:37 |
| dims | dhellmann : they just don't like the idea | 16:38 |
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| dims | dhellmann : traffic on #openstack-ironic - http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-ironic/%23openstack-ironic.2016-03-01.log.html | 16:39 |
| dhellmann | their config won't be included in the config guide next cycle, then. Is there an immediate issue? | 16:39 |
| dhellmann | rbradfor : ^^ | 16:39 |
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| dhellmann | dims : it sounds like deva has a misunderstanding about how the config generator works | 16:41 |
| dims | dhellmann : yep | 16:41 |
| rbradfor | dhellmann, looking | 16:41 |
| dhellmann | dims : there's not much I can do about it. We'll continue to work on the doc automation stuff next cycle, and raise the issue again, and see if there's some sort of adjustment we can make to encourage them to update their tooling. | 16:43 |
| dims | dhellmann : yep, that's what i was telling krotscheck as well, too late for M for sure | 16:44 |
| dhellmann | and if not then teams that don't want to use standard tooling will have to figure out how they're going to deal with the extra integration work that comes out of that choice | 16:44 |
| dhellmann | oh, yeah, no time to get this done this week | 16:44 |
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| krotscheck | dhellmann: The associated issue is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1551836 | 16:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1551836 in Trove "CORS middleware's latent configuration options need to change" [Undecided,New] | 16:45 |
| krotscheck | dhellmann: We managed to get a keystone patch approved, which seems to make at least the keystone project happy | 16:45 |
| dhellmann | krotscheck : that seems like good progress, then | 16:46 |
| krotscheck | Since morgan was involved in the original discussion, that's good. | 16:46 |
| dhellmann | krotscheck : you may encounter similar resistance in cinder | 16:46 |
| krotscheck | dhellmann: You being the release manager, is this a mitaka blocker? | 16:46 |
| krotscheck | That would buy me more time. Else I'm just not going to be able to land all these. | 16:47 |
| dhellmann | krotscheck : I don't actually have the power to decide that ironic must do something before their release. That's the PTL's job. | 16:47 |
| krotscheck | Ok, so we can't escalate this. | 16:47 |
| dhellmann | if the result is that ironic doesn't have cors support, then that needs to be explained to them. | 16:47 |
| krotscheck | Well, they already have it, it's just going to cause them maintenance headaches down the road. | 16:47 |
| dhellmann | or if there's some other result, that should equally be explained (I don't know the implications) | 16:48 |
| krotscheck | dhellmann: Well, I'll go ahead and work on the core integrated release ones. | 16:50 |
| krotscheck | Those are probably the highest priority | 16:50 |
| dims | krotscheck : i'd throw an email on openstack-dev for posterity's sake | 16:50 |
| dhellmann | that's usually the approach I take, too | 16:50 |
| dhellmann | dims : ++ | 16:50 |
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| krotscheck | dims: I filed it against oslo config as well so there's a somewhat better way to link it. | 16:53 |
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| rbradfor | dhellmann, funny in our chat about adoption of graduated libraries I made a list of top level projects, I see now oslo-config-generator was a Juno spec. | 16:58 |
| rbradfor | need to think about a level more detail then library level. | 16:58 |
| dhellmann | rbradfor : yeah, some of the adoptions we need are "features" not just libs. | 17:03 |
| rbradfor | dhellmann, this made me look for the release for the graduating oslo.config and there is no specific spec like other libraries -- http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/oslo-specs/ | 17:04 |
| dhellmann | rbradfor : oslo.config is one of the oldest bits of code, and predates specs by a couple of years | 17:04 |
| dhellmann | it has been a lib for a long time, but the sample generator wasn't in the lib until juno | 17:05 |
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| rbradfor | dhellmann, I had assumed as much, I'm sure like harlowja discussion yesterday there is some history/lore worthy of conversation here | 17:06 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I don't actually know the full history. I think it was a lib before I even got involved. | 17:07 |
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| dhellmann | rbradfor : https://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-paris-summit-2014/session-videos/presentation/taking-the-long-view-how-the-oslo-program-reduces-technical-debt might be of interest | 17:07 |
| dhellmann | there's some timeline info there | 17:07 |
| rbradfor | nice | 17:08 |
| dhellmann | I don't know how that video came out, but if you can't read the slides let me know and I'll post them somewhere public | 17:08 |
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| rbradfor | dhellmann, np. I had noticed reasonable coverage of videos at recent events, I should review what other applicable presentations may help new people (e.g. like me) | 17:10 |
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| dhellmann | there's not really a lot of contributor-focused content, which is why we added the new upstream track this time around | 17:11 |
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| rbradfor | dhellmann, just your intro, "consistency - dealing with configuration, same syntax, patterns, names". When the core projects do not align to these motivations, it gets multiplied as new projects are introduced. | 17:14 |
| dhellmann | rbradfor : indeed | 17:14 |
| rbradfor | and while you talk about a reason for Oslo is reducing technical debt, if ALL projects are not onboard, well it's not reducing consistently | 17:15 |
| * rbradfor things of when I discovered swift does not use olso.config for example | 17:15 | |
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| dims_ | harlowja_at_home : thanks for starting the etherpad - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-oslo-summit-planning | 17:59 |
| harlowja_at_home | np! | 17:59 |
| harlowja_at_home | dims_, i volunteered u for a session, ha | 17:59 |
| harlowja_at_home | ;) | 17:59 |
| harlowja_at_home | seems like a good one | 17:59 |
| harlowja_at_home | anyone else, feel free to add ones | 18:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | or even random ideas for ones | 18:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | vilobhmm112, idk if u want to list the quota thing there, maybe could be a place for that (it's been talked previously at summits under oslo) | 18:03 |
| harlowja_at_home | maybe to early to decide that ;) | 18:03 |
| vilobhmm112 | harlowja_at_home : may be will give it couple of weeks or so..atleast yesterday had a fresh and good start https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284454/ ; http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/087684.html | 18:04 |
| patchbot | vilobhmm112: patch 284454 - openstack-specs - Delimiter - Cross Project Quota Enforcement and Ma... | 18:04 |
| harlowja_at_home | cool | 18:04 |
| harlowja_at_home | catching up on emails | 18:04 |
| vilobhmm112 | lets see how it goes :) | 18:04 |
| vilobhmm112 | okies | 18:04 |
| vilobhmm112 | harlowja_at_home : will have more discussion in today cp meeting as well | 18:05 |
| dims_ | vilobhmm112 : throw it in anyway this is a very very preliminary list | 18:05 |
| vilobhmm112 | dims_ : alrite lets do it :) | 18:05 |
| harlowja_at_home | vilobhmm112, cool, i'll try to attend that meeting, did u talk to thingee? | 18:05 |
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| harlowja_at_home | he sometimes cancels those meetings if nobody talks to him/lists a topic | 18:05 |
| harlowja_at_home | sometimes == most times | 18:06 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 18:06 |
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| vilobhmm112 | harlowja_at_home : looks like he is aware of the change and will talk in today's meeting as from the ML e-mail that he sent today | 18:06 |
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| vilobhmm112 | harlowja_at_home : looks like its skipped http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/087871.html | 18:08 |
| vilobhmm112 | but please see point #3 | 18:08 |
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| harlowja_at_home | arg | 18:09 |
| harlowja_at_home | vilobhmm112, ya, durn, got skipped again | 18:09 |
| harlowja_at_home | ah #3 | 18:09 |
| harlowja_at_home | cool | 18:09 |
| dims_ | lxsli, bnemec, bknudson, gcb, dhellmann, flaper87, jd__ , sileht , mikal , Nakato, haypo, lifeless - please chime in with ideas for sessions - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-oslo-summit-planning | 18:10 |
| harlowja_at_home | vilobhmm112, probably try to get in the next cp meeting, and at least advertise when the quota group meeting happens | 18:10 |
| harlowja_at_home | or just use that same cp meeting imho | 18:10 |
| harlowja_at_home | (unless quota stuff takes over cp meeting, then don't use cp meeting, ha) | 18:10 |
| * flaper87 clicks | 18:11 | |
| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Work with kombu from upstream https://review.openstack.org/284887 | 18:11 |
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| zigo | dims: Hi there! Will you do a bunch of Oslo releases for Mitaka b3? Or is it that what we have right now is already for it? | 19:28 |
| zigo | dims: In other words: should I wait, or start packaging it? | 19:28 |
| zigo | dims: If I should wait, could you please me when I shall start the work? | 19:28 |
| zigo | s/please me/please ping me/ | 19:28 |
| dims | zigo : it's frozen as in no new features, may expect a few bug fixes here and there. | 19:29 |
| zigo | dims: Ok, thanks ! | 19:29 |
| dims | oslo.messaging for sure, possibly oslo.config | 19:29 |
| zigo | dims: As I'm finished with my work on Fuel, I'll start tomorrow then. | 19:30 |
| dims | not sure if we will need a release of the full set when the global requirements freezes | 19:30 |
| dims | haven't checked how much g-r changed since the last set of releases | 19:30 |
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| haypo | dims: hey. FYI i will not attend the next summit. i'm reading https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-oslo-summit-planning | 19:32 |
| dims | haypo : ouch. ideas are still welcome :) we can try to include you via hangouts or something | 19:33 |
| haypo | dims: maybe we need a session to discuss versionning, using same versions on liberty, mitaka, newton? | 19:33 |
| haypo | dims: lifeless's spec | 19:33 |
| dims | haypo : I'd hope that's cross project one | 19:34 |
| haypo | dims: ah right | 19:34 |
| haypo | dims: i'm just proposing the idea, i'm not interested to organize such meeting ;) | 19:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.service: [WIP] Override clock in eventlet hubs https://review.openstack.org/286838 | 21:28 |
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| fhermeni | hello | 21:50 |
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| kfox1111 | heartbeat question... the older docs (kilo) mention needing kombu >= 3.0.7 & amqp >= 1.4.0. liberty+ docs no longer state that. | 23:05 |
| kfox1111 | did the needed bits get backported, was the requirement bogus, or was the note just dropped? | 23:06 |
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| dims | kfox1111 : it's because we bumped the minimum requirements - https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/blob/stable/liberty/requirements.txt | 23:10 |
| dims | kfox1111 : https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/commit/0c954cffa2f3710acafa79f01b958a8955823640 | 23:10 |
| kfox1111 | ah, so it still is a requirement. | 23:14 |
| kfox1111 | so, the version of rdo we pulled only has 2.5 in it. | 23:15 |
| kfox1111 | looks like there is a 3.0.32-1 available now though. | 23:15 |
| kfox1111 | are folks using it in production yet? | 23:15 |
| kfox1111 | (heart beats that is) | 23:15 |
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| kfox1111 | k. thanks. :) | 23:53 |
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