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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: [WIP] Fail quickly if there on bad authentication https://review.openstack.org/285880 | 04:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: [WIP] Fail quickly if there on bad password https://review.openstack.org/285880 | 04:15 |
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| lxsli_web_ | dukhlov_: Ivan has responded on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260976/ , what do you think? | 11:26 |
| patchbot | lxsli_web_: patch 260976 - oslo.reports - Use file modification events instead of signal han... | 11:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Fail quickly if there on bad password https://review.openstack.org/285880 | 11:28 |
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| dims | sileht : found a way to fail quickly on bad passwords - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285880/ | 11:33 |
| patchbot | dims: patch 285880 - oslo.messaging - Fail quickly if there on bad password | 11:33 |
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| dims | dukhlov_ : is this possible in pika driver too? | 11:33 |
| dims | dukhlov_ : ^^ fail fast on bad passwords | 11:34 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Infra currently has a long backlog. Please be patient and where possible avoid rechecks while it catches up. | 12:07 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Ronald Bradford proposed openstack/oslo.log: Improve olso.log test coverage for edge cases https://review.openstack.org/285556 | 15:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ronald Bradford proposed openstack/oslo.log: Improve olso.log test coverage for edge cases https://review.openstack.org/285556 | 15:54 |
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| dims | 5 mins to oslo meeting | 15:56 |
| openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/osprofiler: It's unnecessary set deprecate group for option 'enabled' https://review.openstack.org/285898 | 15:59 |
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| rbradfor_ | amrith, happy to look into the oslocontext problem with you today. I was not the original author but I've been working to ensure it bubbled out to projects | 16:11 |
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| aspiers | Am I right in thinking that this old initiative is effectively dead? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/db-reconnect | 16:30 |
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| aspiers | The only remnants seem to be some experimental reconnect code in oslo.db | 16:30 |
| aspiers | which nothing uses | 16:30 |
| aspiers | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33831/ | 16:31 |
| patchbot | aspiers: patch 33831 - oslo-incubator - Automatic retry db.api query if db connection lost (MERGED) | 16:31 |
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| mriedem | dhellmann: is this message coming from stevedore? http://logs.openstack.org/periodic-stable/periodic-cinder-python27-liberty/c36b836/console.html#_2016-02-28_06_09_35_759 | 16:43 |
| mriedem | "found extension EntryPoint.parse" | 16:43 |
| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/stevedore/blob/master/stevedore/extension.py#L157 | 16:44 |
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| mriedem | nvm, looks like cinder doesn't set default log levels for stevedore | 16:47 |
| mriedem | like nova does | 16:47 |
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| YorikSar | dims: So I've missed the meeting. Did I get it right from logs that you're going to accept my revert after all? | 16:53 |
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| dims | YorikSar : already +2A thanks for keeping an eye | 16:55 |
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| YorikSar | dims: Oh, great, thanks! | 16:57 |
| YorikSar | I've suspected that topic was dangerous for meeting discussion. | 16:58 |
| YorikSar | I hope CI will get to this change eventually. | 16:59 |
| YorikSar | BTW, about complaining loudly. May be we can adjust exception there somehow? | 17:00 |
| YorikSar | Or maybe emit a warning/error in logs with more details about what and why happened. | 17:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yang Hongyang proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Raise AttributeError instead of NotImplementedError https://review.openstack.org/285647 | 17:05 |
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| dims | YorikSar : yes, i'd support that | 17:11 |
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| lxsli | rbradfor_: re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285556, why don't you just compare the dicts please? | 17:27 |
| rbradfor_ | lxsli, I want to first look for keys in actual results, and then compare values of keys in results. My code works just fine, and your comments in the review are adequate for other contributors to comment on. | 17:29 |
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| lxsli | rbradfor_: now there's a new version, they'll need to look back through history to find them, which is why I wanted to talk to you before reapplying them in case there's something I missed | 17:31 |
| lxsli | Why do you want to do that? | 17:31 |
| lxsli | What's the benefit? | 17:31 |
| rbradfor_ | lxsli, this is not the appropriate communication channel to stress your comment on a line of code. Everybody has preferences and there is a voting system for a reason. My code is not wrong, and your need to voice your disapproval is not here. Subsequent reviews are all based on feedback to your comments I chose to agree with. Anybody can see the full history of comments if they wish. | 17:34 |
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| lxsli | oookay, wow | 17:37 |
| lxsli | It's perfectly common to reach out to a fellow developer over IRC to ask questions about their code | 17:38 |
| lxsli | the fact that we have a disagreement is something you should be prepared to talk through, not dismiss | 17:38 |
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| rbradfor_ | lxsli, I'm not dismissing your comment. I am waiting for additional team members to way in. given this was work done on Friday afternoon, and we are in a freeze I expect this to take some days for feedback. Your urgency implies my code has to match your comment now without discussion. I have agreed with many of your points, I do not agree on all of them. I am fully entitled to do so, I added comments, and I have done without malice. Again this i | 17:46 |
| rbradfor_ | s not the appropriate time or communication channel for your escalation. | 17:46 |
| lxsli | All I want is some reasoning | 17:46 |
| lxsli | You've said "I want it" but not why | 17:47 |
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| lxsli | And this is exactly the communication channel to discuss oslo issues, I don't know where else we should discuss it | 17:49 |
| lxsli | Time for me to go, maybe you can discuss appropriate open source behaviour with someone and we can have a productive conversation tomorrow | 17:53 |
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| harlowja_at_home | did i miss a locking conversation in the meeting | 18:02 |
| harlowja_at_home | durn | 18:02 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 18:02 |
| harlowja_at_home | ;) | 18:02 |
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| rbradfor | harlowja_at_home, you did. While I'm not familiar with the background there was a spirited discussion on an important topic. | 18:06 |
| harlowja_at_home | :) | 18:06 |
| harlowja_at_home | def | 18:06 |
| harlowja_at_home | rbradfor, ya, there is background that i don't even know about | 18:07 |
| harlowja_at_home | someone needs to write a history of all this | 18:07 |
| rbradfor | harlowja_at_home, as with discussions on history with dhellmann there is a great deal of history about a great many things. The likes of tails that should be spoken of at social events where there is a way to scribe the commentary for us newer contributors | 18:08 |
| rbradfor | having lived this history in another Open source project, it's part of the fun of catching up annually at conferences. Talking about old times with old friends. | 18:10 |
| harlowja_at_home | yes, i think we need a full-time scribe | 18:10 |
| harlowja_at_home | (a person scribe, nota bot) | 18:10 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 18:10 |
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| harlowja_at_home | dhellmann, and i think started in openstack right around the same time, so ya, lots of things to remember, lol | 18:11 |
| harlowja_at_home | or dhellmann did u start before me, i can't remember | 18:11 |
| rbradfor | can dragon software work on a phone these days? With the recording the scribe would have a fallback, but what are the legal implications of recording for prosperity. | 18:12 |
| harlowja_at_home | overall yes, file locks sort are a pita, but zookeeper is also another set of complexity, and ... concurrency is hard, lol | 18:12 |
| harlowja_at_home | dragon software still exists? | 18:12 |
| harlowja_at_home | actually nm, i think i bought my dad that a year ago, so it still does, lol | 18:13 |
| harlowja_at_home | dragon for mac or something (pretty sure i got that for him) | 18:13 |
| rbradfor | I wish there was a transcribing app that was more real-time. | 18:14 |
| harlowja_at_home | def | 18:15 |
| harlowja_at_home | someday | 18:15 |
| rbradfor | actually that's why stenographers get paid very well (I believe), wish we could hire one, and have some one on one interviews, tell us some interesting history of OpenStack, the likes of stories to be told and remembered fondly. | 18:15 |
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| harlowja_at_home | :) | 18:16 |
| harlowja_at_home | 1) the lord of the devstack | 18:16 |
| harlowja_at_home | 2) the wrath of the nova | 18:16 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 18:16 |
| harlowja_at_home | ^ volumes | 18:16 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 18:16 |
| rbradfor | one should at least start an Etherpad of the titles (and participants), something to at start a conversation about. | 18:18 |
| harlowja_at_home | def | 18:18 |
| harlowja_at_home | in all honesty it'd be a interseting book | 18:18 |
| harlowja_at_home | or blog series or something | 18:19 |
| harlowja_at_home | (some people would probably find it interesting, ha) | 18:19 |
| rbradfor | at least an ebook, imagine if there was a printed page of a story or two each day at the conference sitting areas. It would enable those new to potentially feel part of the bigger community. | 18:20 |
| harlowja_at_home | good idear | 18:20 |
| harlowja_at_home | i'd read that | 18:20 |
| harlowja_at_home | mordred can probably add a few hundred pages | 18:20 |
| harlowja_at_home | and we can find vish somehow | 18:20 |
| harlowja_at_home | to get a few hundred more pages, lol | 18:20 |
| rbradfor | having monty sit still that long, well ... not going to happen | 18:20 |
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| rbradfor | having him stuck on a plane with you, take away his electronic devices, add a few drinks, that might work. | 18:21 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 18:21 |
| harlowja_at_home | sounds like u know from experience | 18:22 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 18:22 |
| dhellmann | harlowja_at_home : I think we started around the same time, rewriting devstack in python, IIRC :-) | 18:22 |
| rbradfor | we worked together a decade ago. | 18:22 |
| harlowja_at_home | dhellmann, the good ole-days | 18:23 |
| harlowja_at_home | ha | 18:23 |
| dhellmann | rbradfor : I've been hoping we'd identify someone to write the equivalent of "The Soul of a New Machine" or "Dreaming in Code" for OpenStack, but I haven't found that person, yet. | 18:23 |
| rbradfor | dhellmann, I would offer to contribute some of the compilation stuff, as I'm not part of the history. | 18:24 |
| harlowja_at_home | i'd contribute also, but full-on-write-it, errr, probably not, ha | 18:24 |
| dhellmann | we need to find the interviewer, first | 18:24 |
| harlowja_at_home | i've still got to finish my taskflow paper first, lol | 18:24 |
| rbradfor | but having written 4 books, OMG its a labour when you wonder how you ever found the time. | 18:24 |
| harlowja_at_home | https://github.com/harlowja/taskflow_paper (not kidding, ha) | 18:24 |
| harlowja_at_home | rbradfor, which books have u written? | 18:25 |
| rbradfor | harlowja_at_home, http://effectivemysql.com/book/ (3 of them) | 18:25 |
| harlowja_at_home | cool | 18:25 |
| harlowja_at_home | what do u write those in btw, docbook? | 18:25 |
| harlowja_at_home | (what did u write those in) | 18:25 |
| * harlowja_at_home curiou | 18:26 | |
| harlowja_at_home | *curious | 18:26 |
| rbradfor | harlowja_at_home, well that's a story of pain and servitude | 18:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.concurrency: Revert "Use tempfile.tempdir for lock_path if OSLO_LOCK_PATH is not set" https://review.openstack.org/285294 | 18:27 |
| rbradfor | I was force to by a crappy microsoft word product and run it on a mac (I refuse to have windows on my home network). | 18:27 |
| harlowja_at_home | eck | 18:27 |
| harlowja_at_home | sounds like pain, lol | 18:27 |
| rbradfor | it's not the writing, its the 3 or 4 rounds of edits, and non technical reviewers. | 18:27 |
| harlowja_at_home | agreed | 18:27 |
| rbradfor | lowest common tool for larger publishers | 18:27 |
| harlowja_at_home | i remember when i wrote my masters thesis, it was the edits and such that were the pain | 18:27 |
| harlowja_at_home | not the initial writing really | 18:28 |
| harlowja_at_home | the back-forth and edits | 18:28 |
| harlowja_at_home | and edits and more edits... | 18:28 |
| rbradfor | actaully, that was the easy part, it was arguing over things like the Chicago manual of style, and editors insistence on things like hypernation, every book I'd have the same arguments. | 18:28 |
| rbradfor | harlowja_at_home, acftually I've found presenting to be way more rewarding then writing -- http://ronaldbradford.com/presentations/ | 18:30 |
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| rbradfor | but it is nice when you meet people around the world that say, hey I really enjoyed your book! | 18:30 |
| harlowja_at_home | ya, jd__ put me in his book, but i didn't have to do much writing, lol | 18:31 |
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| harlowja_at_home | jd__, u still in thailand? | 18:31 |
| harlowja_at_home | or somewhere over there | 18:31 |
| harlowja_at_home | 'Ronald has given 120+ presentations across 22 countries starting in 2006.' | 18:32 |
| harlowja_at_home | damn | 18:32 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 18:32 |
| harlowja_at_home | i've given like 5 | 18:32 |
| harlowja_at_home | ha | 18:32 |
| rbradfor | harlowja_at_home, darn, now you have told the world. | 18:33 |
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| rbradfor | when Monty, Jay and others moved from MySQL/Drizzle to OpenStack, I stayed in MySQL and pursued being a more noted authority there. Now I'm like 6 years behind in OpenStack! | 18:34 |
| rbradfor | speaking has it perks. I've done six tours in South America, (crazy=one year 7 countries in 15 days, 14 flight legs, good=seeing old friends again in country (and them being in country and around the world),bringing my wife, seeing amazing places) | 18:36 |
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| harlowja_at_home | cools | 18:49 |
| harlowja_at_home | tours of duty | 18:49 |
| harlowja_at_home | ha | 18:49 |
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| dhellmann | krotscheck : regarding your keystone patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285308/ I want to make sure we haven't miscommunicated the nature of the config generator sample thing: That only affects documentation (sample file and sphinx integration), but the hooks I added are not used at runtime. | 18:52 |
| patchbot | dhellmann: patch 285308 - keystone - Moved CORS middleware configuration into oslo-conf... | 18:52 |
| bknudson | dims: went through all the oslo repos and -2d features. | 18:52 |
| harlowja_at_home | bb, gotta go pickup a patio cover thingy, (yes i'm at home, ha) | 18:53 |
| krotscheck | dhellmann: Yes, I know. That's why I also added it here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285308/4/keystone/cmd/cli.py | 18:53 |
| patchbot | krotscheck: patch 285308 - keystone - Moved CORS middleware configuration into oslo-conf... | 18:53 |
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| dims | thanks bknudson : i'll do some reviews later today and verify | 18:53 |
| dhellmann | krotscheck : excellent, I hadn't reviewed the patch yet just the commit message | 18:53 |
| bknudson | harlowja_at_home will be getting a lot of mail for taskflow | 18:54 |
| krotscheck | dhellmann: I realized what you were saying sometime sunday morning after <omg> having gotten 5 hours of straight fussy-infant-free sleep. | 18:54 |
| dhellmann | krotscheck : congratulations on getting a night's sleep :-) | 18:54 |
| krotscheck | Something about actually getting a full night of good rest makes my brain brain better. | 18:55 |
| dhellmann | bknudson : I hope you're scripting those -2s | 18:55 |
| harlowja_at_home | bknudson, i will? | 18:55 |
| harlowja_at_home | oh | 18:55 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 18:55 |
| bknudson | harlowja_at_home: taskflow has by far the most open reviews | 18:55 |
| harlowja_at_home | i will | 18:55 |
| harlowja_at_home | ha | 18:55 |
| bknudson | I hope nobody's waiting on those features | 18:56 |
| harlowja_at_home | woah, XXXXXXXX | 18:56 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 18:56 |
| harlowja_at_home | bb | 18:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/pycadf: Remove unused pngmath Sphinx extension https://review.openstack.org/286215 | 18:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Juan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Disable http_proxy_to_wsgi middleware by default https://review.openstack.org/283052 | 18:57 |
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| amrith | hey rbradfor ... would you PM me an email address. I have a fun email to send you ;) | 19:51 |
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| mriedem | sdague: what do you think about this living in oslo.log? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286174/ | 20:10 |
| patchbot | mriedem: patch 286174 - cinder - Copy StandardLogging fixture from Nova | 20:10 |
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| sdague | mriedem: there is no part of that fixture which depends on anything in oslo log. Personally, I'm a little skeptical of moving all the low level test code off into a black box library. It's often helpful for developers to really understand what's in their test classes. | 20:25 |
| mriedem | sdague: yeah.....i just....well....with no oslo-incubator....you see? | 20:26 |
| sdague | mriedem: sure, I'm just not in the camp that all copy and paste is a bad idea. Especially when it comes to test code, where the most important thing is the core team can see and understand the entire impact of their tests | 20:29 |
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| mriedem | yeah.... | 20:29 |
| * mriedem misses oslo-incubator for stuff like this | 20:30 | |
| sdague | and then having to negotiate changes to test fixtures between projects because you now have multiple users | 20:30 |
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| bknudson | dhellmann: I don't have a script to -2. I opened the changes and took a quick look and decided to -2 or not. | 20:42 |
| bknudson | I don't know how this could be automated. | 20:42 |
| dhellmann | bknudson : query for anything open that doesn't have a bug reference? but yeah, probably safer to do it by hand. | 20:42 |
| sdague | bknudson: scripting -2s easy if yuo have defined search criteria | 20:42 |
| sdague | message: works pretty well right now | 20:43 |
| sdague | not message:"bug" | 20:43 |
| dhellmann | mriedem, sdague : so put it in the incubator. We still *have* it. | 20:43 |
| bknudson | going by bug reference would probably be adequate. But some bug fixes introduce new features | 20:43 |
| bknudson | there are probably few enough reviews with bug references that it would be quick to look through them. | 20:46 |
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| kfox1111 | heartbeat question... the older docs (kilo) mention needing kombu >= 3.0.7 & amqp >= 1.4.0. liberty+ docs no longer state that. | 21:10 |
| kfox1111 | did the needed bits get backported, was the requirement bogus, or was the note just dropped? | 21:11 |
| kfox1111 | also, is it still really experimental? | 21:11 |
| kfox1111 | oh... is it experimental just becauase it has no tests? | 21:13 |
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| rbradfor | bknudson, I believe gertty is a tool to automate -2s, https://github.com/openstack/gertty | 21:24 |
| bknudson | rbradfor: I'll have to try gertty again, then. I like to -2. | 21:25 |
| rbradfor | bknudson, I'm not one for that particular task, however I noted several oslo.log work I submitted on friday were not -2, so I axed myself. | 21:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.middleware: Updated config documentation for cors_middleware https://review.openstack.org/285387 | 23:51 |
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