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| Kennan | hi dims | 01:13 |
| Kennan | dims_ | 01:13 |
| Kennan | dims_ or harlowja: | 01:14 |
| harlowja | hi | 01:14 |
| Kennan | one question | 01:14 |
| Kennan | for this | 01:14 |
| Kennan | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246721/ | 01:14 |
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| Kennan | I saw it was merged, but our latest jenkins still failed that, is it becasue oslo.versionobjects not relaase new version ? | 01:15 |
| Kennan | harlowja: do you know if it is case ? | 01:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.service: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247144 | 01:16 |
| harlowja | Kennan yup | 01:20 |
| harlowja | u might want to request release of versionedobjects @ https://github.com/openstack/releases | 01:20 |
| harlowja | and that will get the release of that commit goin | 01:20 |
| harlowja | *going | 01:20 |
| harlowja | https://github.com/openstack/releases/blob/master/deliverables/mitaka/oslo.versionedobjects.yaml | 01:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.concurrency: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247135 | 01:23 |
| Kennan | harlowja: seems a long process to get new release | 01:25 |
| harlowja | ya, i think thats why the typical way is u revert the original commit, block the version in requirements and then go through this 'long process' | 01:25 |
| harlowja | or just block the version of oslo.versionedobjects in requirements, make sure requirements.txt has a working version that is useable | 01:26 |
| harlowja | then go through this long process | 01:26 |
| Kennan | harlowja: I dont' know if oslo.versionedobjects release new recently, Then we found got such failure | 01:26 |
| harlowja | ya, it might of | 01:27 |
| Kennan | I am curious why only our projects hit that issue | 01:27 |
| harlowja | unsure | 01:27 |
| Kennan | harlowja: do you know how many projects used oslo.versionobjects ? | 01:27 |
| harlowja | not off the top of my head no | 01:29 |
| harlowja | dims_ might have an idea | 01:30 |
| harlowja | or dansmith | 01:30 |
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| dansmith | harlowja: it definitely worked for me | 01:32 |
| harlowja | ya, but maybe that method wasn't being triggerd by anyone else | 01:32 |
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| harlowja | its def broke, lol | 01:32 |
| harlowja | * https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246721/ | 01:33 |
| dansmith | right, I saw the patch | 01:33 |
| harlowja | but i'm not sure how many people were triggering that code-path | 01:33 |
| dansmith | well, we are | 01:33 |
| harlowja | odd | 01:33 |
| dansmith | and it's tested, right? | 01:33 |
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| dansmith | hmm, maybe it's not | 01:34 |
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| Kennan | I saw versionobjects just release 0.13 two days ago | 01:34 |
| Kennan | seems new version bring such change | 01:35 |
| dansmith | whatever, I dunno, but the fix is clearly right | 01:35 |
| dansmith | Kennan: yes | 01:35 |
| dansmith | Kennan: just get dims to do a new release tomorrow | 01:35 |
| Kennan | ok dansmith | 01:35 |
| Kennan | right now, I need try pin version in our jenkins jobs | 01:35 |
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| Kennan | if worked or not | 01:35 |
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| lifeless | harlowja: anyhoo, unless we have a really good better alternative | 01:40 |
| lifeless | harlowja: I think the costs of backwards compat are far outweighed by the benefits | 01:40 |
| harlowja | lifeless ya, i am inclined to agree | 01:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.log: Log to sys.stderr to avoid "No handlers could be found..." https://review.openstack.org/245303 | 02:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.vmware: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247146 | 09:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/tooz: etcd: driver with lock support https://review.openstack.org/246879 | 09:28 |
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| gordc | zigo: you know who does packaging for suse | 13:07 |
| zigo | gordc: Yup. He's called Thomas, just like me. | 13:07 |
| zigo | There's him and dirk. | 13:08 |
| gordc | zigo: would you know nick? | 13:08 |
| gordc | their* nicks | 13:08 |
| zigo | Thomas Bechtold <TBechtold@suse.com> | 13:10 |
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| zigo | I'm not sure about the spelling of his nick. | 13:10 |
| zigo | As for Dirk, I met him for the first time in Tokyo, I don't know his familly name and/or nick. | 13:10 |
| zigo | gordc: Is Thomas's addy enough? | 13:11 |
| zigo | You can for sure ask him all that ... | 13:11 |
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| gordc | zigo: sure. that'd be good | 13:13 |
| gordc | thanks | 13:13 |
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| lucasagomes | sorry it may be a dumb question, but how can I add a filter to the oslo.log ? The logger doesn't have the addFilter() method... so I tried adding it to the logger.logger (which seems to be a instance of the logger from stdlib) but the filter doesn't get called | 13:26 |
| lucasagomes | so... | 13:26 |
| lucasagomes | someone tried it? | 13:26 |
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| sdague | hmmm... so why did anyone even bother with the rename - http://logs.openstack.org/90/245990/2/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/6b397c6//logs/screen-n-api.txt.gz?level=WARNING#_2015-11-19_12_22_41_925 | 13:39 |
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| fhermeni | hi there | 14:17 |
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| fhermeni | harlowja ? | 14:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cyril Roelandt proposed openstack/oslosphinx: Fix a string vs bytes issue in _guess_cgit_link https://review.openstack.org/247018 | 14:25 |
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| pkholkin | zzzeek: Good day Mike! Do you have time to look at enginefacade problem? | 14:29 |
| zzzeek | hi pkholkin - i didnt see a msg from you the other day so i wondered if that test script you had was still failing | 14:30 |
| zzzeek | pkholkin: can you paste me the link again I can try running it in a little while | 14:30 |
| zzzeek | assuming that's still the problem | 14:30 |
| pkholkin | zzzeek: the problem is still, yes, one sec | 14:30 |
| pkholkin | zzzeek: here is my script http://xsnippet.org/361142/ | 14:31 |
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| pkholkin | zzzeek: here is rpodolyaka's smaller too http://xsnippet.org/361145/ | 14:34 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.log: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247137 | 14:35 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247145 | 14:35 |
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| jdandrea | dims: Thank you for your help (re: #245303)! Hope I can pitch in with other issues in the future as well. | 14:39 |
| dims | jdandrea : looking forward to it :) | 14:39 |
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| jdandrea | dims: Actually, I could back port this, I imagine (at least if the setup is similar). Do I need to do anything special to add kilo/juno to the original bug? | 14:40 |
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| dims | jdandrea this problem just started in liberty, so don't need to backport i think | 14:44 |
| dims | unless you see it there and the fix actually works | 14:44 |
| jdandrea | dims: Good point. I'll actually check it. ;) | 14:45 |
| jdandrea | Ah, but isn't this patch for mitaka? | 14:45 |
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| dims | jdandrea : the way things are structured the stable/liberty does not have caps on library versions, so releases made for mitaka can be used with stable/lliberty | 14:57 |
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| jdandrea | Oh, good! Does this mean that this change would make it into the Ubuntu Liberty packages? (I ask because the folks I know who manage those clusters will hesitate to apply anything that doesn't make it into a package. Just want to be sure it's accounted for if I leave it be.) | 14:58 |
| jdandrea | (By which I mean the Liberty updates, if any.) | 14:58 |
| dims | jdandrea : we don't know what the packagers are going to do. we (lifeless!) are trying to put into words what we think and gather consensus - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226157/ | 15:01 |
| jdandrea | Thanks | 15:01 |
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| zzzeek | pkholkin: the statement raises an error, and then you are intentionally squashing it. how is enginefacade to know that it cannot now proceed with a session.commit()? | 15:01 |
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| zzzeek | pkholkin: basically the session is being corrupted here with an error and it needs to have .rollback() called on it. someone has to do that | 15:03 |
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| zzzeek | pkholkin: either we do soemthign in the block to fix it (not recommended) or we just don't squash database exceptions in enginefacade blocks so that it can do its job of handling scope. I guess we could also have enginefacade just intercept a bad session and do a rollback, but then nothing is raised, the transaction is failed, and its silent, so that doesnt work... | 15:04 |
| pkholkin | zzzeek: are speaking about first or second script? | 15:05 |
| zzzeek | pkholkin: currently this one: http://xsnippet.org/361145/ | 15:05 |
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| pkholkin | zzzeek: the main problem is in the first one, we do there the same insert twice and got an error on the second one | 15:07 |
| pkholkin | http://xsnippet.org/361142/ | 15:07 |
| zzzeek | pkholkin: its supposed to raise an error, you're inserting the same unique row twice | 15:07 |
| zzzeek | pkholkin: but because the script squashes the actual error, the Session won't let you proceed | 15:07 |
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| pkholkin | zzzeek: we found it in this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244058/ working with tags | 15:09 |
| zzzeek | pkholkin: i dont see what the expected behavior would be | 15:09 |
| zzzeek | pkholkin: if you expect something else then that's a bug report | 15:10 |
| zzzeek | pkholkin: but i dont know what you'd want. you cant insert the same primary key twice | 15:10 |
| pkholkin | zzzeek: this test fails https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/unit/db/test_db_api.py#L9002-L9013 and we don't know how to fix it | 15:10 |
| pkholkin | zzzeek: we want to catch exception, do pass and them some other actions | 15:11 |
| zzzeek | pkholkin: but youre in a transaction. you can't have an integrity failure in a transaction, and then just continue like nothing happened, you need to use a savepoint | 15:11 |
| zzzeek | pkholkin: is it possible that this test merely takes advantage of nova's previosuly broken behavior of starting brand new transactions for every operation, and now that enginefacade seeks to reform this, changes must be made ? | 15:11 |
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| zzzeek | pkholkin: to fix it, you would use the facade with the independent_transactions marker | 15:13 |
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| zzzeek | pkholkin: one moment | 15:13 |
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| zzzeek | pkholkin: see: http://xsnippet.org/361162/ | 15:16 |
| pkholkin | zzzeek: looking | 15:17 |
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| pkholkin | zzzeek: it works thanks, RomanP mentioned independent but now I think I did something wrong using it | 15:19 |
| zzzeek | pkholkin: that solution is not ideal, nova works this way now but id like those to become SAVEPOINT at some point | 15:19 |
| zzzeek | pkholkin: but that soultion should maintain nova's current approach | 15:20 |
| pkholkin | zzzeek: so we can now use independent yes? | 15:20 |
| pkholkin | zzzeek: could you please give some example of using savepoint too? | 15:21 |
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| zzzeek | pkholkin: change the word "independent" to "savepoint" | 15:23 |
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| zzzeek | pkholkin: http://xsnippet.org/361163/ | 15:24 |
| pkholkin | zzzeek: and what is the difference and what is better to use in nova? we have multiple same places in code | 15:26 |
| zzzeek | pkholkin: IMO the approach of "attempt to insert row X and skip if integrity error" is typically wihtin a SAVEPOINT | 15:26 |
| zzzeek | pkholkin: however, we havent used SAVEPOINT very much in openstack so this would open us up to new issues | 15:26 |
| zzzeek | potentially | 15:26 |
| pkholkin | zzzeek: we can now try to use savepoints here | 15:27 |
| zzzeek | pkholkin: there's an issue where the MySQL driver itself screws up on rolling back to a savepoint, and squashes the actual error that caused the problem | 15:28 |
| zzzeek | pkholkin: there's no way to see the original error in that case in python 2, python 3 fixes | 15:28 |
| zzzeek | pkholkin: neutron has hit this | 15:28 |
| pkholkin | zzzeek: hmm, so now it would be better to use independent and them think about it again, do you agree? | 15:30 |
| zzzeek | pkholkin: depends on how much you want to push nova | 15:33 |
| zzzeek | pkholkin: id put a comment there at the very least, "ideally this owuld be savepoint" | 15:33 |
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| pkholkin | zzzeek: ok, please take a look at updated this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244058/2 | 15:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Flavio Percoco proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Remove qpidd's driver from the tree https://review.openstack.org/241420 | 15:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Hemanth Makkapati proposed openstack/oslo-specs: db: Database Query Profiling https://review.openstack.org/247589 | 15:43 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/automaton: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247592 | 15:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/debtcollector: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247595 | 15:44 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/futurist: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247600 | 15:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/mox3: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247609 | 15:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Komei Shimamura proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Add a driver for Apache Kafka https://review.openstack.org/247620 | 15:50 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247625 | 15:51 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.cache: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247134 | 15:51 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.concurrency: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247626 | 15:51 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.config: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247627 | 15:51 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.context: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247628 | 15:51 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.db: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247136 | 15:51 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.i18n: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247629 | 15:51 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.log: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247137 | 15:51 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247138 | 15:51 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247630 | 15:51 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.policy: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247140 | 15:51 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.privsep: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247141 | 15:51 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.reports: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247142 | 15:51 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.rootwrap: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247631 | 15:51 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.serialization: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247632 | 15:51 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.service: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247633 | 15:51 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.utils: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247634 | 15:51 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247145 | 15:51 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.vmware: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247635 | 15:51 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslotest: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247636 | 15:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Hemanth Makkapati proposed openstack/oslo-specs: db: Database Query Profiling https://review.openstack.org/247589 | 15:52 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/pycadf: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247637 | 15:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/stevedore: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/244454 | 15:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/taskflow: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247655 | 15:53 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/tooz: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247656 | 15:53 |
| bknudson_ | proposal bot is out of control. | 15:54 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 15:54 |
| bknudson_ | I'm trying to figure out if autodoc_tree_index_modules should be used or autodoc_index_modules ? | 15:54 |
| bknudson_ | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/pbr/#pbr | 15:54 |
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| bknudson_ | why pick one over the other? | 15:54 |
| harlowja_at_home | :-/ | 15:55 |
| harlowja_at_home | (got me) | 15:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cyril Roelandt proposed openstack/oslo.config: Add a bandit target to tox.ini https://review.openstack.org/247665 | 15:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yulia Portnova proposed openstack/oslo-specs: oslo.messaging message compression proposal https://review.openstack.org/247668 | 15:58 |
| dims | harlowja_at_home : can you please +2A the bot updates today? i am at a all day event and won't get to it until tonight | 15:59 |
| harlowja_at_home | np | 15:59 |
| harlowja_at_home | +200 | 15:59 |
| harlowja_at_home | crazy bot | 15:59 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 15:59 |
| dims | we need a bot to approve the changes :) | 15:59 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247625 | 16:00 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.cache: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247134 | 16:00 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.concurrency: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247626 | 16:00 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.db: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247136 | 16:00 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.i18n: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247629 | 16:00 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.log: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247137 | 16:00 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247138 | 16:00 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247630 | 16:00 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.policy: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247140 | 16:00 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.privsep: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247141 | 16:00 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.reports: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247142 | 16:00 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.service: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247633 | 16:00 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.utils: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247634 | 16:00 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247145 | 16:00 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslotest: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247636 | 16:00 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/pycadf: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247637 | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | holy crap | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | dims, def we need that bot | 16:01 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:01 |
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| dims | it's going beserk :) | 16:03 |
| harlowja_at_home | :) | 16:05 |
| harlowja_at_home | crazy bot be crazy | 16:05 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.middleware: remove bad entry point test logic https://review.openstack.org/245988 | 16:08 |
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| mriedem | dims: gonna need some help here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247276/ | 16:12 |
| mriedem | on this neutron messaging thing in stable/liberty | 16:12 |
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| dims | mriedem : feels like we should add an alias to the old name, new release of o.m and block the "bad" releases? | 16:16 |
| mriedem | dims: that is probably easiest | 16:16 |
| mriedem | alias and deprecate it | 16:16 |
| dims | mriedem : am away from my workspace. do you have some time to log reviews? | 16:17 |
| dims | there's a lot of people working on/with openstack here - http://www.bu.edu/hic/2015/11/12/nov-19-2015-moc-annual-workshop-hosted-by-the-hariri-institute-for-computing-2/ | 16:18 |
| mriedem | dims: not sure what you're asking me to do | 16:19 |
| mriedem | i can write the o.m patch that does the alias thing... | 16:19 |
| dims | mriedem right | 16:19 |
| mriedem | ok : | 16:19 |
| mriedem | :) | 16:19 |
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| mriedem | however... | 16:20 |
| mriedem | i'm not sure that fixes us | 16:20 |
| mriedem | in the old days where we capped libraries in g-r it would | 16:20 |
| mriedem | b/c we could make the alias in o.m master and backport to o.m stable/liberty and create a patch release for stable/liberty to use | 16:21 |
| mriedem | u-c on stable/liberty is 2.8.1 at this point | 16:21 |
| mriedem | i guess we blacklist everything between 2.6.0->new release with alias in stable/liberty g-r | 16:21 |
| dims | mriedem or bump the minimum g-r requirement in both stable/liberty and master | 16:24 |
| mriedem | master is fine | 16:26 |
| mriedem | i don't want to bump the minimum in g-r on stable/liberty for this | 16:26 |
| mriedem | since people have deployed with packages that met the reqs for liberty when it GA'ed | 16:26 |
| mriedem | we shouldn't force them to move up | 16:26 |
| dims | mriedem then we can do a 2.8.2 | 16:26 |
| mriedem | yeah | 16:26 |
| mriedem | on it | 16:26 |
| dims | still won't help | 16:26 |
| dims | because we don't have cap | 16:26 |
| dims | in stable/liberty g-r | 16:26 |
| mriedem | that's what the blacklist is for | 16:27 |
| dims | k let's try that variation | 16:27 |
| dims | well need a master review, a backport to stable/iberty branch and then releases review, followed by g-r review for stable/iberty? | 16:28 |
| dims | mriedem : but but...stable/liberty does have the old _impl package right? | 16:29 |
| dims | so, i am not sure what we should be doing... mriedem | 16:31 |
| dims | harlowja_at_home : thoughts? | 16:32 |
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| mhickey | dims: Hi. Thanks very much for advice yesterday on how to get the auth config items from keystone! :) | 16:34 |
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| mhickey | dims: I did it today when my brain was fresher. | 16:34 |
| dims | mhickey : very nice | 16:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/tooz: etcd: driver with lock support https://review.openstack.org/246879 | 16:42 |
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| harlowja_at_home | dims, unsure :-/ | 16:49 |
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| mriedem | dims: it's in my head, i'll get it going then we can review | 16:51 |
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| mriedem | is it alright if oslo.messaging uses debtcollector? | 17:34 |
| mriedem | seems like that should be OK since they are both oslo libs | 17:34 |
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| harlowja_at_home | mriedem, i think so | 17:36 |
| harlowja_at_home | from what i recall | 17:36 |
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| mriedem | k | 17:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Move engine options extraction to __init__ methods https://review.openstack.org/243793 | 17:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/oslo-specs: Log request logs on failure https://review.openstack.org/227766 | 17:40 |
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| mriedem | lifeless: hmm, so when deprecating things in libraries like oslo.messaging, when can we actually remove them and not break stable branches if we don't have caps in global-requirements? | 17:43 |
| mriedem | and we don't have integration testing that would cause the u-c bump on stable to fail | 17:44 |
| mriedem | it seems we should be able to cap at major versions in g-r on stable/liberty | 17:44 |
| mriedem | sdague: ^? | 17:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Allow deciders to stop at flow boundaries (WIP) https://review.openstack.org/246051 | 17:56 |
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| harlowja_at_home | mriedem, i think thats where https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226157/ comes into play | 17:57 |
| harlowja_at_home | which lifeless is seeking feedback on (besides just me giving feedback, ha) | 17:58 |
| mriedem | oh no spec duty | 17:58 |
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| SpamapS | dims: who was the nice gentleman working on 0mq? | 18:06 |
| dims | SpamapS ozamiatin (https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:ozamiatin,n,z) | 18:06 |
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| SpamapS | dims: thanks. Looking at setting up an experiment soon. :) | 18:07 |
| dims | SpamapS very very cool. we need help :) | 18:07 |
| SpamapS | dims: also what's the spec for splitting config for notification and rpc? | 18:08 |
| dims | SpamapS : started as a bug, we just added one configuration parameter | 18:08 |
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| SpamapS | dims: oh sweet. Is that all handled? | 18:09 |
| SpamapS | dims: because I have a dream of a cloud that uses 0mq for RPC and Kafka for notifications. :) | 18:10 |
| SpamapS | but even just a 0mq for RPC, Rabbit for notifications, would be a nice scalability improvement IMO. | 18:10 |
| dims | SpamapS : i need to test more in the next few days, i have a nova review in WIP | 18:10 |
| dims | SpamapS yes for sure | 18:11 |
| SpamapS | also I kind of want to look at how hard it would be to make a tooz matchmaker | 18:11 |
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| SpamapS | that would tie in so nicely with the dlm bits | 18:11 |
| mriedem | oh barf i have to install qpid-proton to run pep8 on oslo.messaging? | 18:11 |
| mriedem | fetching http://www.apache.org/dist/qpid/proton/0.10/qpid-proton-0.10.tar.gz into build/bundled | 18:12 |
| mriedem | error: <urlopen error [Errno 101] Network is unreachable> | 18:12 |
| dims | mriedem i thought that was in extras | 18:12 |
| mriedem | di | 18:12 |
| mriedem | gdi | 18:12 |
| mriedem | man, the apache.org site has been super duper crappy for being available in the last few weeks | 18:12 |
| dims | kgiusti : flaper87 : ^^^ | 18:13 |
| harlowja_at_home | SpamapS, u are dreaming about kafka nowadays ? | 18:13 |
| harlowja_at_home | :-/ | 18:13 |
| harlowja_at_home | to much work... | 18:13 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 18:13 |
| mriedem | harlowja_at_home: is your at home status any different from your non at home status? | 18:13 |
| harlowja_at_home | SpamapS, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247620/ fyi | 18:13 |
| harlowja_at_home | mriedem, different account | 18:13 |
| harlowja_at_home | yes | 18:13 |
| harlowja_at_home | the other harlowja is at work, ha | 18:14 |
| mriedem | 'you'll have to speak up, i'm wearing a towel' | 18:14 |
| mriedem | i would expect that to be the only difference | 18:14 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 18:14 |
| harlowja_at_home | that was earlier in the morning | 18:14 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 18:14 |
| mriedem | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk8SToEQPGw | 18:14 |
| harlowja_at_home | :) | 18:15 |
| harlowja_at_home | do waterproof laptops exist? | 18:15 |
| harlowja_at_home | that might be nice | 18:15 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 18:15 |
| harlowja_at_home | sit in a tub and work | 18:15 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 18:15 |
| * harlowja_at_home pretty sure some military grade ones are waterproof | 18:15 | |
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| * harlowja_at_home mainly today people are delivering a TV and mounting it, so gotta be home during that time | 18:21 | |
| kgiusti | dims: thanks - I'll take a look | 18:21 |
| SpamapS | harlowja_at_home: we seriously need to get you an IRC bouncer | 18:25 |
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| harlowja_at_home | SpamapS, lol | 18:25 |
| harlowja_at_home | meh | 18:25 |
| harlowja_at_home | i thought about it | 18:25 |
| harlowja_at_home | but i like my different accounts :-P | 18:26 |
| SpamapS | you're the only one. ;) | 18:26 |
| harlowja_at_home | i'm special | 18:26 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 18:26 |
| harlowja_at_home | (thats what i tell myself every morning) | 18:26 |
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| mriedem | is the qpid-proton driver deprecated in oslo.messaging? or just qpid? | 18:28 |
| mriedem | old school qpid | 18:28 |
| mriedem | looks like just qpid | 18:28 |
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| kgiusti | mriedem: the driver, in oslo.messaging | 18:29 |
| kgiusti | mriedem: the "qpid://" transport | 18:30 |
| mriedem | kgiusti: there are 2 drivers, qpid and proton, and qpid is deprecated from what i can see | 18:30 |
| mriedem | yeah | 18:30 |
| mriedem | amqp is not | 18:30 |
| mriedem | amqp == proton | 18:30 |
| kgiusti | mriedem: yeah, the amqp1 driver uses proton under the covers | 18:31 |
| mriedem | that doesn't rely on qpid-python in any way right? | 18:31 |
| mriedem | b/c pulling qpid-python from apache.org is DOA right now | 18:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo-incubator: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247625 | 18:32 |
| kgiusti | mriedem: no sir - the amqp1 driver does not use the old qpid-python package. As you know, it needs python-qpid-proton, which needs a shared lib installed | 18:32 |
| mriedem | hmm, ok, so it's actually python-qpid-proton that blows up | 18:32 |
| kgiusti | mriedem: yah - the python-qpid-proton module needs that libqpidproton.so, so if you don't have it on your system it goes and fetches it for you. | 18:33 |
| kgiusti | mriedem: what OS are you using - ubuntu? | 18:34 |
| mriedem | and http://www.apache.org/dist/qpid/proton/0.10/qpid-proton-0.10.tar.gz isn't available | 18:34 |
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| mriedem | yup | 18:34 |
| mriedem | i'm on trusty | 18:35 |
| kgiusti | mriedem: hrm... must be a network issue - using that url downloads fine. Can you run a traceroute to www.apache.org? | 18:35 |
| kgiusti | mriedem: might have a deb for that, stay tuned.... | 18:35 |
| SpamapS | mriedem: is amqp actually tested though? | 18:36 |
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| mriedem | idk | 18:36 |
| SpamapS | IIRC, it was still in development when we landed the policy | 18:36 |
| SpamapS | and so it has some time to get its stuff together. | 18:36 |
| kgiusti | SpamapS: outside of devstack? | 18:37 |
| mriedem | like is there a job in infra that runs oslo.messaging with amqp | 18:37 |
| SpamapS | kgiusti: it needs to be in the gate of oslo.messaging, and have at least one devstack test against "popular" openstack projects (basically nova, neutron, cinder) | 18:37 |
| mriedem | yeah so like a src job for oslo.messaging that runs tempest and devstack and runs o.m with the amqp backend | 18:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Provide alias to oslo_messaging.notify._impl_messaging https://review.openstack.org/247735 | 18:45 |
| kgiusti | SpamapS: oslo.messaging does run a dvsm job against amqp1 (as well as zmq) - https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/jenkins/jobs/devstack-gate.yaml#n2340 | 18:45 |
| adam_g | mriedem, so do i understand the plan correctly: we get a new o.m /w the shim that lets stable/liberty load notification drivers via private path (say o.m 2.10.0) and then blackliast >=2.6.0,<2.10.0 ? | 18:46 |
| mriedem | adam_g: yup | 18:46 |
| kgiusti | SpamapS: that's about it - not sure if that qualifies. What would be considered as a devstack test against a popular openstack project? If it's lacking I'd like to address that. | 18:47 |
| SpamapS | kgiusti: that does qualify | 18:47 |
| kgiusti | mriedem: https://launchpad.net/~qpid/+archive/ubuntu/testing | 18:47 |
| adam_g | mriedem, cool plan, dude. thanks | 18:47 |
| mriedem | kgiusti: it's just standard devstack (dsvm job) that runs tmpest | 18:47 |
| SpamapS | kgiusti: and are there two devs assigned to it and well known as the people to contact when that breaks? | 18:47 |
| mriedem | kgiusti: yup was just there | 18:47 |
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| kgiusti | mriedem: way ahead of me - you'll want the 0.10 qpid-proton package | 18:48 |
| kgiusti | SpamapS: myself and flaper87 atm | 18:49 |
| mriedem | kgiusti: yup | 18:51 |
| mriedem | installing them now | 18:51 |
| kgiusti | mriedem: k - let me know how it goes | 18:51 |
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| kgiusti | mriedem: www.apache.org seem ok from my location - occasionally the route goes all the way through Frankfurt (I'm in N.E. USA). | 18:52 |
| mriedem | i think my local ibm site is blocking it | 18:53 |
| SpamapS | kgiusti: perfect! | 18:53 |
| mriedem | b/c apparently ibm rochester mn hates apache | 18:53 |
| SpamapS | kgiusti: cool, so yeah you're all good then. ;) | 18:53 |
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| kgiusti | mriedem: crap. amqp1 suffers from the lack of a proton lib package in the official ubuntu repos. For rhel/fedora it's available via epel. | 18:56 |
| kgiusti | mriedem: Our debian guy moved on awhile ago | 18:56 |
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| kgiusti | mriedem: but we've got a new packager who's trying to get proton into debian/ubuntu. But that's a looong process. | 18:57 |
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| mriedem | kgiusti: 3 manual deb installs later and i'm running | 18:59 |
| mriedem | kgiusti: doing that is infinitely easier than creating an ibm support ticket | 18:59 |
| kgiusti | mriedem: so very sorry - we should've had proton in ubuntu long ago. :( | 19:00 |
| mriedem | meh, not your fault | 19:00 |
| mriedem | i'll retract my ML rage | 19:00 |
| sdague | well, it's valid rage that it's needed for pep8 | 19:01 |
| mriedem | JUSTIFIED RAGE! | 19:01 |
| sdague | the tree can be restructured so it's not needed for pep8 | 19:01 |
| mriedem | true | 19:01 |
| kgiusti | mriedem: yeah, don't get that.... | 19:01 |
| mriedem | i can do that also | 19:01 |
| mriedem | i can move those deps out of test-requirements, make them extras in setup.cfg, and use those in the amqp specific tox targetes in tox.ini | 19:01 |
| mriedem | \o/ | 19:01 |
| kgiusti | dims: ^^^ re: python-qpid-proton required for pep8? | 19:02 |
| mriedem | no, not needed | 19:03 |
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| mriedem | we're not checking pep8 on qpid/proton | 19:03 |
| mriedem | however, | 19:03 |
| mriedem | to import the code... | 19:03 |
| mriedem | to run pep8 | 19:03 |
| mriedem | sdague: ^ that wouldn't work right? | 19:04 |
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| sdague | mriedem: give a sec to poke at a thing | 19:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: WIP: Provide alias to oslo_messaging.notify._impl_messaging https://review.openstack.org/247735 | 19:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: make pep8 faster https://review.openstack.org/247746 | 19:10 |
| sdague | mriedem: ^^ | 19:10 |
| sdague | that seems to work, and do the right thing | 19:10 |
| sdague | get that landed, then backport to your heart's content | 19:10 |
| mriedem | can you make waffle frieds please? | 19:10 |
| sdague | :) | 19:11 |
| sdague | it should make you less stabby as well | 19:11 |
| mriedem | oh man | 19:12 |
| mriedem | it's going to take more than that today | 19:12 |
| * dims hands mriedem a cookie and a coffee | 19:15 | |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247630 | 19:17 |
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| jaypipes | dansmith: around? | 19:35 |
| dansmith | yeah | 19:35 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: how about we get rid of the IPv4AndV6AddressField here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246960/2/oslo_versionedobjects/fields.py | 19:35 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: since IPAddress essentially is the same thing. | 19:35 |
| * dims hands dansmith fries and coffee | 19:36 | |
| dansmith | jaypipes: I'd need to look at where it's used in nova | 19:36 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: that's just copied of course | 19:36 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: understood. | 19:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: make pep8 faster https://review.openstack.org/247746 | 19:48 |
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| mriedem | adam_g: per https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247276/1/setup.cfg | 20:19 |
| mriedem | what if you just set neutron.openstack.common.notifier.rpc_notifier2 = messagingv2? | 20:19 |
| mriedem | or it has to be a class path? | 20:20 |
| mriedem | oh nvm | 20:21 |
| mriedem | adam_g: honestly, "# These are for backwards compat with Icehouse notification_driver configuration values" - when do we just drop that from neutron? | 20:21 |
| mriedem | why are we still supporting backward compat with icehouse? | 20:21 |
| adam_g | mriedem, i have no idea what the story is behind any of that, other than notifications silently stopped working /w 2.6.0, mitaka | 20:24 |
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| adam_g | mriedem, modifying stable/liberty's packaging to get it working with >liberty oslo.messaging seems wacky, as i think you've found in those comments | 20:25 |
| mriedem | yeah i'm asking in -neutron | 20:25 |
| mriedem | i'm ok with fixing lierty | 20:25 |
| mriedem | *liberty | 20:25 |
| mriedem | but we need neutron to stop doing bad things to support icehouse | 20:25 |
| mriedem | maybe i'll just push up that change | 20:25 |
| adam_g | mriedem, which change? the o.m alias thing? | 20:26 |
| mriedem | i'm already working on that, just needs a test | 20:27 |
| mriedem | i mean removing them from neutron | 20:27 |
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| adam_g | mriedem, someone else can probably ansewr better than me but AIUI those things in setup.cfg are there to support the configuratinos from days when the drivers were packaged in neutron via oslo-incubator (icehouse, i assume?) the deprecation shoulda been finished and those dropped in liberty, but i guess it was forgotten | 20:34 |
| mriedem | yeah, that's my understanding as well | 20:34 |
| mriedem | and we need to drop that stuff | 20:34 |
| mriedem | it's been 2 years | 20:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Provide alias to oslo_messaging.notify._impl_messaging https://review.openstack.org/247735 | 20:45 |
| mriedem | adam_g: ^ | 20:45 |
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| mriedem | would be cool if you could test that out with liberty neutron | 20:45 |
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| fhermeni | harlowja: hi. Question about the ongoing step. Is it not going to be redundant with heat ? | 20:52 |
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| harlowja | fhermeni unsure | 20:53 |
| fhermeni | harlowja: spec* | 20:53 |
| harlowja | it is a good question | 20:53 |
| fhermeni | harlowja: there is already this notion of constraint,template, etc. | 20:53 |
| harlowja | yup | 20:53 |
| adam_g | mriedem, thanks. testing here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247781/ | 20:55 |
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| fhermeni | harlowja: well constraints in HEAT are key-value pairs, seems to be used for resource matchmaking mostly | 20:59 |
| fhermeni | harlowja: so it matches the property you states in your last spec version | 21:00 |
| harlowja | fhermeni its totally possible we should poke some of the heat folks, get there thoughts on it... | 21:03 |
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| fhermeni | harlowja: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210549/ | 22:57 |
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| harlowja | fhermeni thx, i'll look into what was added :) | 23:00 |
| fhermeni | harlowja: k. Just discovering gerrit. Still some trouble to understand how it works, how to write comments, .. : | 23:01 |
| harlowja | fhermeni kk | 23:01 |
| fhermeni | + | 23:01 |
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| harlowja | it will eventually become easy :) | 23:01 |
| harlowja | in time ;) | 23:01 |
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