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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: Add new core analyzer script that can be called from 'analyze-oslo.sh' script https://review.openstack.org/246682 | 00:03 |
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| harlowja | crappy script ^ | 00:03 |
| harlowja | lol | 00:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Cache atom name -> actions and provide accessor function https://review.openstack.org/198211 | 00:16 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/stevedore: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/244454 | 00:23 |
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| lifeless | dims_: dhellmann: harlowja: ttx: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226157 updated | 00:37 |
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| harlowja | lifeless nice sputnik13 ^ u might be interested in reading to | 00:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vilobh Meshram proposed openstack/tooz: WIP : Add Consul Driver https://review.openstack.org/245362 | 00:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Add optional 'defer_reverts' behavior https://review.openstack.org/243268 | 01:04 |
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| sputnik13 | +10000000 --> "Use semver to signal compatibility breaks (these are expected just not ones that affect supported releases)" | 01:14 |
| sputnik13 | semantic versioning ftw | 01:15 |
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| harlowja | sputnik13 the part that i'm not such a big fan about is 'garbage collect deprecated things will be determined by the period that the stable maintenance team decide to maintain each stable branch for.' | 01:18 |
| harlowja | imho it shouldn't need to be restricted to that period, if the project owner has stable branches and supports them... | 01:18 |
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| harlowja | it also should break weekly but ya, don't go crazy imho seems like a better recommendation | 01:19 |
| harlowja | *shouldn't be weekly lol | 01:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Allow deciders to stop at flow boundaries (WIP) https://review.openstack.org/246051 | 01:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Adds new MACAddressField https://review.openstack.org/245294 | 01:31 |
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| jaypipes | dansmith: hey man, sorry to bother you, but I could really use some help on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245294/. For the life of me, I cannot figure out why the tests are not passing. It seems that nothing I do to the code changes the returned value from MACAddressField.coerce() to be lowercased and replaces the hyphens with colons :( | 01:34 |
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| dims_ | jaypipes ping | 02:08 |
| dims_ | jaypipes this works for me - http://paste.openstack.org/show/479197/ | 02:08 |
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| lifeless | harlowja: well | 02:10 |
| lifeless | harlowja: so lets talk about that | 02:10 |
| dims_ | coerce_good_values - in the tuple the first one is the thing from which we convert from and the second is the final thing after coercion | 02:10 |
| harlowja | lifeless ok :) | 02:10 |
| lifeless | harlowja: I laid out my reasoning in the spec | 02:10 |
| lifeless | harlowja: basically folk *will* mix and match versions, the entire python packaging ecosystem defaults to 'run latest' | 02:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Kai Qiang Wu(Kennan) proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Fix the wrong reference for DeprecationWarning https://review.openstack.org/246721 | 02:12 |
| lifeless | harlowja: its quite hard to select 'and run a stable branch' for anything coming from PyPI | 02:12 |
| lifeless | harlowja: there is no branching model in the index | 02:12 |
| harlowja | right, because of various junk of pip (resolver ...) | 02:12 |
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| Kennan | hi dims: | 02:12 |
| Kennan | dims_ | 02:13 |
| harlowja | but v.Y == stable branch, v.Y+1 == dev | 02:13 |
| harlowja | ? | 02:13 |
| dims_ | Kennan hey | 02:13 |
| lifeless | harlowja: not in PyPI | 02:13 |
| lifeless | harlowja: it has precisely one mechanism to handle that - semver, using the ~= operator | 02:13 |
| Kennan | please check this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246721/ | 02:14 |
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| Kennan | it failed our jenkins | 02:14 |
| lifeless | harlowja: which is basically a pin - ~= 1.1 -> >= 1.1 and < 1.2 | 02:14 |
| Kennan | so I propose a change for that | 02:14 |
| harlowja | lifeless right | 02:14 |
| Kennan | dims_: thanks | 02:14 |
| harlowja | is ~=1 >=1.0 and < 2.0 ? | 02:14 |
| lifeless | yah | 02:14 |
| lifeless | (from memory) | 02:14 |
| lifeless | but there's an odd thing in the definition, I think maybe you need x.y to use it | 02:15 |
| jaypipes | dims_: guh, I must not have my brain screwed on correctly today... thank you! | 02:15 |
| harlowja | lifeless hmmm | 02:15 |
| harlowja | thats odd | 02:15 |
| lifeless | harlowja: anyhow it doesn't matter - its a pin | 02:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Adds new MACAddressField https://review.openstack.org/245294 | 02:15 |
| lifeless | harlowja: if we expect oslo.config to be used with a pin | 02:15 |
| harlowja | right, but a pin to a semver u expect to be work for the duration of your app | 02:15 |
| harlowja | *semver range | 02:15 |
| lifeless | harlowja: then everything that uses it needs the same pin | 02:15 |
| dims_ | jaypipes :) | 02:15 |
| harlowja | lifeless right, which is then why u need a dep solver to actually figure out if thats possible or not | 02:16 |
| Kennan | https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.versionedobjects/+bug/1517280 | 02:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1517280 in oslo.versionedobjects "'module' object has no attribute 'DeprecationWarning'" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Kai Qiang Wu(Kennan) (wkqwu) | 02:16 |
| lifeless | harlowja: and when any one project needs to move, we can't actually move any of them until all of them have moved | 02:16 |
| lifeless | harlowja: so moving past the pin becomes a huge effort - which we've felt plenty of times. Burnt people out doing in fact | 02:16 |
| harlowja | ok ~=1 and <=2.1 | 02:16 |
| harlowja | we love to burn people | 02:16 |
| harlowja | ha | 02:16 |
| harlowja | light em up | 02:17 |
| lifeless | harlowja: so, I don't; I hate people being stressed and unhappy | 02:17 |
| harlowja | :-P | 02:17 |
| lifeless | harlowja: anyhow, more usefully - | 02:17 |
| lifeless | harlowja: we don't need a dep solver, we have constraints, but they need to all be compatible | 02:17 |
| dims_ | Kennan : whoa! not sure how we missed that. thanks | 02:17 |
| lifeless | so we have to touch *every single user of the library* to do an API break of any sort | 02:18 |
| dims_ | jaypipes : since we have you here now :) please bless https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246721/ | 02:18 |
| lifeless | and - and this is the crucial bit - we need to touch them twice, and its a critical section around the release. | 02:18 |
| harlowja | ya, it almost seems like we need 2.1 where 2.1 is the mixed-mode that works in the old version and the new version, and then 2.2 can be the thing that only enables new mode | 02:18 |
| lifeless | because we have to expand the pin. then land the breaking change in master. Then contract the pin. Then start using the new thing whatever it is. | 02:19 |
| harlowja | so 1.0 -> 2.1 would work as expected in both modes, 2.2 would drop old mode | 02:19 |
| harlowja | then people can shift to 2.1, in pieces or whatever, then shift to 2.2 when all changed | 02:19 |
| harlowja | or something | 02:19 |
| lifeless | well no | 02:19 |
| lifeless | because we have the really strong rquirement from our deployers that we be coinstallable | 02:19 |
| harlowja | how strong is that still? | 02:20 |
| lifeless | we can't raise the minimum up from 2.1 until everyone can move up | 02:20 |
| lifeless | harlowja: super strong | 02:20 |
| harlowja | how super? | 02:20 |
| harlowja | lol | 02:20 |
| lifeless | harlowja: depramination | 02:20 |
| harlowja | i already used up by word of the day | 02:20 |
| harlowja | lol | 02:20 |
| lifeless | harlowja: like defenestration, but prams. | 02:20 |
| harlowja | *used up my | 02:20 |
| harlowja | lol | 02:20 |
| harlowja | how many deployers are still co-installing things? | 02:21 |
| lifeless | huh? 99% | 02:21 |
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| lifeless | the vast majority use deb or rpm packages | 02:21 |
| harlowja | kk | 02:21 |
| lifeless | those are coinstalled | 02:21 |
| * harlowja wasnt sure the number anymoe for that | 02:21 | |
| harlowja | if u say 99% though, i beleive u | 02:21 |
| lifeless | let me check the user survey | 02:21 |
| lifeless | 55% operating system packages | 02:22 |
| harlowja | kk | 02:22 |
| lifeless | 39% unmodified from a vendor | 02:22 |
| lifeless | 30% locally modified (which could then imply virtualenvs or whatever) | 02:23 |
| harlowja | right | 02:23 |
| lifeless | 24% self rolled | 02:23 |
| lifeless | now, the first two could be containerised | 02:23 |
| lifeless | so lets look on | 02:23 |
| harlowja | buttt i gotta run, sooo :) | 02:23 |
| harlowja | doesn't want to leave u hanging | 02:23 |
| harlowja | lol | 02:23 |
| harlowja | we will resume! | 02:23 |
| harlowja | lol | 02:23 |
| lifeless | can't tell | 02:24 |
| harlowja | we willlll | 02:24 |
| harlowja | lol | 02:24 |
| lifeless | harlowja: anyhow - you can see that this adds up to a pretty severe set of constraints | 02:24 |
| harlowja | right | 02:24 |
| lifeless | doing first grade backwards compat is easy | 02:24 |
| lifeless | and solves it | 02:24 |
| lifeless | so ... :) | 02:24 |
| harlowja | i don't like it, seems like we gotta be able to do something... | 02:24 |
| harlowja | but ya, i get it :-/ | 02:24 |
| lifeless | kk, pick up tomorrow :) | 02:25 |
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| Kennan | hi oslo cores | 03:50 |
| Kennan | could someone help review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246721/ ? | 03:50 |
| Kennan | it blocked our jenkins | 03:50 |
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| gus | harlowja: is anyone already working on an etcd driver for tooz? | 04:11 |
| gus | I just assumed etcd+consul already existed as drivers, and someone pointed out that I'd been lying :/ | 04:11 |
| gus | (I see the consul bp and in-progress change) | 04:11 |
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| dansmith | jaypipes: looks like dims got you fixed up | 14:32 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: however, why not use netaddr like the rest of the network address things as I said? | 14:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/oslo.service: Add functionality for creating Unix domain WSGI servers https://review.openstack.org/240860 | 14:35 |
| sdague | dims: we got the oslo.service release to support this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238983/5 right? | 14:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/oslo.config: Add 'mutable' param to Opt https://review.openstack.org/246404 | 14:36 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: AFAICT, netaddr isn't a dependency of oslo.versionedobjects... | 14:37 |
| dims | sdague default value 60 secs was in 0.13.0, let me check what's in g-r | 14:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/oslo.config: Add 'mutable' param to Opt https://review.openstack.org/246404 | 14:37 |
| sdague | dims: right, but the config option didn't even exist before 0.13.0 right? | 14:38 |
| dims | sdague yes, it did, 0.12.0 | 14:39 |
| sdague | I just don't want to land the devstack patch until it does something | 14:39 |
| sdague | oh, ok | 14:39 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: right, we didn't pull over the IPAddress fields from nova because there was no other user of them, but os-vif is a good reason to do that, and to then use the same pattern for MACAddress I think | 14:39 |
| sdague | well, +2 then :) | 14:39 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: I can do the patch to bring those over if you want to base on it | 14:39 |
| dims | sdague : yes, we are good http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cloud.openstack.announce/650/match=graceful_shutdown_timeout | 14:39 |
| sdague | thanks dims mhorban for getting that all sorted | 14:39 |
| dims | yay :) | 14:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joe D'Andrea proposed openstack/oslo.log: Log to sys.stderr to avoid "No handlers could be found..." https://review.openstack.org/245303 | 14:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Add netaddr-related field types https://review.openstack.org/246960 | 14:47 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: ^ | 14:47 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: +2 from me. will rebase on that. | 14:49 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: cool, I think that'll be easier | 14:50 |
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| mixos | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245969/2 | 15:46 |
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| mixos | thanks for your review in advance. very simple fix but critical for barbican. | 15:47 |
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| jdandrea | dims: Hi! I double checked https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245303/ and it works fine on my end. New patch submitted and tests still pass. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245303/ | 16:09 |
| jdandrea | (whoops, meant to post that link only once) | 16:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cyril Roelandt proposed openstack/oslosphinx: Fix a string vs bytes issue in _guess_cgit_link https://review.openstack.org/247018 | 16:27 |
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| dims_ | dhellmann : lifeless : how do we fix such a problem? http://logs.openstack.org/04/246404/5/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-oslo.config-liberty/09ac4b1/logs/apache/keystone.txt.gz#_2015-11-18_15_09_20_865320 | 18:21 |
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| dims_ | sdague : ^^ problem happens when we try to run a dsvm job with the source of a oslo library from stable/liberty | 18:22 |
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| lifeless | dims_: you're running master changes with a liberty library? | 18:30 |
| lifeless | dims_: ok so loadwsgi is doing the pkg_resources require call without the thing to turn off cross-checking requirements | 18:31 |
| dims_ | lifeless https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246404 | 18:31 |
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| lifeless | dims_: anyhow, according to the requirements, you can't | 18:31 |
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| lifeless | dims_: since we now require 2.6.0, and liberty has 2.4.x | 18:32 |
| dims_ | lifeless : sdague : so gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-oslo.config-liberty job is practically useless then | 18:32 |
| lifeless | dims_: what is it trying to ascertain ? | 18:32 |
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| lifeless | dims_: this may be a good time to read my backwards compat spec, which is in a similar (but different I think) space | 18:33 |
| dims_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246404 is a review against master and we are running a job to check if we will break stable/liberty | 18:33 |
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| lifeless | dims_: so then you want to run *liberty* everything with oslo.config master | 18:34 |
| lifeless | dims_: which is the opposite of what that job does AFAICT | 18:34 |
| lifeless | dims_: 2015-11-18 14:59:51.390 | Collecting oslo.messaging===2.8.1 (from -c /opt/stack/new/requirements/upper-constraints.txt (line 196)) | 18:35 |
| dims_ | https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/stable/liberty/upper-constraints.txt#L195 | 18:36 |
| lifeless | righto | 18:36 |
| lifeless | my copy of liberty g-r clais | 18:38 |
| lifeless | claims | 18:38 |
| lifeless | oslo.messaging>=1.16.0,!=1.17.0,!=1.17.1,!=2.6.0,!=2.6.1 # Apache-2.0 | 18:38 |
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| lifeless | ah 2.9 is out | 18:38 |
| lifeless | ok so | 18:38 |
| lifeless | here's whats happening | 18:39 |
| lifeless | master g-r, which is synced everywhere hard requires o.m 2.6 or greater | 18:39 |
| lifeless | *anything* released from master will have that same hard requirement | 18:39 |
| lifeless | which means its not possible to upgrade any component released from master (that uses oslo.config) in liberty without force upgrading everything | 18:40 |
| lifeless | dims_: but | 18:41 |
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| lifeless | dims_: this is a change to master oslo.config, so it should have a version higher than 2.6 | 18:41 |
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| lifeless | dims_: so, bulk-upgrades aside, this should work if you run the actual patch you want to in this job | 18:42 |
| dims_ | lifeless : see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246404 | 18:42 |
| lifeless | dims_: yes, got that | 18:42 |
| lifeless | dims_: I'm just looking to see what oslo.config returned a too low version # | 18:43 |
| lifeless | http://logs.openstack.org/04/246404/5/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-oslo.config-liberty/09ac4b1/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-11-18_14_59_32_241 looks sane | 18:43 |
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| dims_ | lifeless pip freeze shows "-e git+https://git.openstack.org/openstack/oslo.config@55242404910acbb56062eadeab6c66094e03b231#egg=oslo.config-origin_stable_liberty" | 18:43 |
| lifeless | dims_: which is clearly wrong | 18:44 |
| lifeless | dims_: (because you want to test the master code...) | 18:44 |
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| lifeless | http://logs.openstack.org/04/246404/5/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-oslo.config-liberty/09ac4b1/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-11-18_14_59_33_751 | 18:44 |
| lifeless | shows oslo.config's initial install version being detected as 2.4.1 | 18:44 |
| lifeless | even though the clone branch was master per the previous link | 18:45 |
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| dims_ | lifeless went bad during edit-constraints? http://logs.openstack.org/04/246404/5/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-oslo.config-liberty/09ac4b1/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-11-18_14_59_33_751 | 18:46 |
| lifeless | dims_: the edit line looks fine to me, specifies the path on disk | 18:46 |
| lifeless | file:///opt/stack/new/oslo.config#egg=oslo.config | 18:46 |
| lifeless | http://logs.openstack.org/04/246404/5/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-oslo.config-liberty/09ac4b1/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-11-18_14_59_32_246 | 18:47 |
| lifeless | the git hash | 18:47 |
| lifeless | 5524240 | 18:47 |
| lifeless | is indeed liberty | 18:47 |
| lifeless | I think we need zuul expert input here | 18:48 |
| lifeless | -> -infro | 18:48 |
| lifeless | erm | 18:48 |
| lifeless | -afro | 18:48 |
| lifeless | no | 18:48 |
| lifeless | -infra | 18:48 |
| dims_ | lol | 18:48 |
| lifeless | I need to do some child wrangling | 18:49 |
| lifeless | but will pop over there shortly | 18:49 |
| lifeless | tl;dr though: its cloning liberty oslo.config, and we wanted master oslo.config | 18:49 |
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| sdague | dims_: what's the problem? | 18:50 |
| sdague | sorry there is a lot of backscroll, can you summarize? | 18:51 |
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| dims_ | sdague : i probably got gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-oslo.config-liberty setup wrong. looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246404 | 18:51 |
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| sdague | what are you trying to test? | 18:52 |
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| dims_ | making sure oslo.config from master with that review wont break when someone uses the new library with that patch under liberty | 18:52 |
| dims_ | pip freeze ends up with -e git+https://git.openstack.org/openstack/oslo.config@55242404910acbb56062eadeab6c66094e03b231#egg=oslo.config-origin_stable_liberty | 18:53 |
| sdague | ok, the existing jobs will work fine if stable/liberty doesn't exist as a branch on the library | 18:54 |
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| sdague | there is no existing infrastructure to support master libs with stable services, when the lib has a stable branch | 18:55 |
| dims_ | ouch : so those jobs i added are no good then | 18:56 |
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| dims_ | sdague : seems to be cloning from master - http://logs.openstack.org/04/246404/5/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-oslo.config-liberty/09ac4b1/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-11-18_14_59_32_241 | 18:57 |
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| dims_ | would RECLONE help? | 18:57 |
| sdague | no, it wouldn't, the refs are all set by zuul | 18:58 |
| sdague | dims_: if you want master to support liberty, why is there a liberty branch? | 18:59 |
| dims_ | sdague : we had not yet fleshed (and still haven't) out the backwards compat stuff i guess | 19:01 |
| dims_ | sdague : lifeless just pointed to the spec he updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226157/ | 19:01 |
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| mhickey | dims_: Hi. How are things? | 19:21 |
| dims_ | mhickey hi, what's up? | 19:22 |
| mhickey | dims_: Do you want to talk here or on keystone? | 19:22 |
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| dims_ | mhickey your call | 19:22 |
| mhickey | dims_: Lets try here. I am adding oslo config generation to neutron. | 19:23 |
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| dims_ | ok | 19:23 |
| mhickey | dims_: I am looking for config items 'auth_plugin' and 'auth_section' but cannot find the namespace they are in. I think they are in keystone? | 19:24 |
| dims_ | give me a sec | 19:25 |
| dims_ | looking for something | 19:25 |
| mhickey | dims_: sure, take your time | 19:26 |
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| dims_ | mhickey : this is what we did in Nova. is this what you are looking for? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214423/ | 19:27 |
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| mhickey | dims_: so is it namespace = nova.network.neutronv2 ? | 19:31 |
| lifeless | sdague: so, lets assume there is value in both knowing if master is breaking stuff, and in distributors collaborating on tested stable branches of a thing | 19:32 |
| lifeless | sdague: where thing is a library or a client-library | 19:33 |
| dims_ | mhickey : see the list_opts method in nova.network.neutronv2.api | 19:33 |
| lifeless | sdague: how big is the missing thing to let us run a test with $branch of servers, and $master of $thing | 19:33 |
| lifeless | sdague: (assume we have the isntalled-from-pypi packages sorted correctly) | 19:34 |
| lifeless | sdague: and is there something I can refer to to level up on the missing stuff | 19:34 |
| sdague | lifeless: I think it's all about the zuul cloner / and devstack-gate logic | 19:34 |
| lifeless | sdague: ok; so some override to tell zuul that that job should take the master branch ? | 19:35 |
| * dims_ steps out for a bit | 19:36 | |
| sdague | https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/blob/92d130938406e4b42cdb1fe3e6fa62f3a2466024/functions.sh#L353 | 19:36 |
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| sdague | so, possibly it's just OVERRIDE_OSLO_CONFIG_PROJECT_BRANCH=master | 19:37 |
| sdague | though I think https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/blob/92d130938406e4b42cdb1fe3e6fa62f3a2466024/functions.sh#L372 might need to be changed | 19:37 |
| sdague | to tr . -> _ | 19:37 |
| stevemar_ | mhickey: looking like, wherever the keystoneclient session is created, the options are generated there | 19:38 |
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| mhickey | dims_,stevemar_: ok, thanks! :) | 19:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Enable conversion of the tree nodes into a digraph https://review.openstack.org/209214 | 20:10 |
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| dims_ | sdague back. looking at that tr line | 20:18 |
| dims_ | local uc_project=`echo $short_project | tr [:lower:] [:upper:] | tr '-' '_' | sed 's/[^A-Z_]//'` | 20:18 |
| timsim | Has anyone encountered a situation where casts in oslo messaging seem to be ignored/dropped from rabbitmq? Is there some config setting that might make that happen? | 20:20 |
| sdague | yeh, so I think it assumes short_project can't have a . in it | 20:20 |
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| dims_ | right, kicks in in the workspace-new | 20:21 |
| dims_ | http://logs.openstack.org/04/246404/5/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-oslo.config-liberty/09ac4b1/logs/devstack-gate-setup-workspace-new.txt.gz#_2015-11-18_14_56_26_327 | 20:21 |
| dims_ | and then where would i set OVERRIDE_OSLO_CONFIG_PROJECT_BRANCH=master? | 20:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Allow deciders to stop at flow boundaries (WIP) https://review.openstack.org/246051 | 20:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: remove bad entry point test logic https://review.openstack.org/245988 | 20:37 |
| lifeless | there's a normalisation regex pypi uses | 20:37 |
| lifeless | dims_: in layout.yaml | 20:37 |
| lifeless | dims_: / sdague: project identifiers - https://github.com/pypa/interoperability-peps/pull/56/files#diff-5c795ff31024d45f6595ce831656c6cfR128 | 20:38 |
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| sdague | lifeless: right, the issue is we're turning this into a shell variable to be evaluated | 20:43 |
| sdague | . is not a valid character in a shell variable | 20:43 |
| sdague | dims_: yeh, I think that's about right | 20:44 |
| dims_ | sdague : y we can fix that script, but then we'll need to set something up in project-config to switch that variable to master (from default) just for the specific project | 20:45 |
| sdague | yeh | 20:46 |
| lifeless | sdague: its also one of the characters normalised by pkg resources | 20:51 |
| lifeless | sdague: to _ or - depending on context | 20:51 |
| lifeless | sdague: so I'm +1 on the correctness of the transform is all | 20:52 |
| sdague | lifeless: ok, I don't see why that's relevant | 20:52 |
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| lifeless | sdague: because if it wasn't, we'd need to find some way to tunnel it through | 20:52 |
| sdague | I'm not sure we would, this is jumping languages | 20:52 |
| lifeless | sdague: or the package name would be wrong and pip / setuptools would likely explode | 20:52 |
| lifeless | sdague: thats possible too | 20:52 |
| lifeless | sdague: I may just have the wrong stick :) | 20:53 |
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| sdague | :) | 20:53 |
| sdague | yeh, this is just about building the consistent set of bash names for things | 20:53 |
| sdague | and as long as everything always maps to the same bash names, we're good | 20:53 |
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| dims_ | sdague looks like we may need a job-template copied from http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/jenkins/jobs/devstack-gate.yaml#n125 | 21:07 |
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| dims_ | sdague : lifeless : https://review.openstack.org/247180 | 21:18 |
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| sdague | dims_: I think that's right | 21:26 |
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| sdague | dims_: oh, if we aren't breaking on the ., and just dumping it, I think we're ok | 21:27 |
| sdague | yeh, you know, never mind | 21:27 |
| sdague | we don't need that | 21:27 |
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| adam_g | dims, not sure what the policy is wrt capping oslo libs in stable, but that notification driver thing is biting stable/liberty https://review.openstack.org/247199 | 22:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Instead of simple executor dispatch limiting use a custom semaphore https://review.openstack.org/239780 | 22:07 |
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| vilobhmm | lifeless : ping wanted to check regarding this pbr error http://paste.openstack.org/show/479355/ | 22:24 |
| vilobhmm | lifeless : any inputs on how to resolve this would be helpful | 22:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Move engine options extraction to __init__ methods https://review.openstack.org/243793 | 22:30 |
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| lifeless | vilobhmm: you're using easy-install; don't. Use pip. | 22:42 |
| lifeless | '...easy_install....' is the give away there | 22:42 |
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| lifeless | I thought we'd fixed the bug that could cause the issue you saw; if you can reproduce it reliably please do file a bug on pbr, but even so - you need to use pip :) | 22:42 |
| harlowja | vilobhmm u were just seeing that by activating tox though right | 22:43 |
| harlowja | i think, anyways if u can reproduce would be cool | 22:43 |
| lifeless | paste the full output then, including the command you run :) | 22:43 |
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| vilobhmm | harlowja : created a venv and ran python setup.py develop…looks like installing the requirements and test-requirments was the problem….my bad | 22:50 |
| vilobhmm | thanks harlowja for the help | 22:50 |
| harlowja | vilobhmm ok, i think lifeless is also saying use $ pip install . | 22:50 |
| harlowja | instead of python setup.py develop | 22:50 |
| harlowja | because latter uses easy_install | 22:50 |
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| harlowja | former doesn't | 22:50 |
| harlowja | anyway, something to try in the future if u got it working | 22:51 |
| vilobhmm | harlowja : sure..trying | 22:51 |
| harlowja | k | 22:51 |
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| vilobhmm | harlowja : works http://paste.openstack.org/show/479358/ | 22:52 |
| harlowja | cool | 22:53 |
| vilobhmm | lifeless : thanks! | 22:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/taskflow: Enable conversion of the tree nodes into a digraph https://review.openstack.org/209214 | 22:58 |
| lifeless | harlowja: vilobhmm: "pip install -e ." instead of 'python setup.py develop' | 23:00 |
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| vilobhmm | lifeless : sure thanks! | 23:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/taskflow: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247165 | 23:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Move engine options extraction to __init__ methods https://review.openstack.org/243793 | 23:09 |
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| harlowja | lifeless soooo been thinking about that spec, think i understand the current dillema, and gonna ponder on it a bit more, so thanks for talking me through it yesterday | 23:12 |
| harlowja | *the backwards compat one | 23:12 |
| harlowja | perhaps some of the conversation may be constructive for further iterations of it (the spec) | 23:13 |
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| lifeless | harlowja: so I'm hoping to make this happen early in the new year | 23:26 |
| harlowja | cool | 23:26 |
| lifeless | harlowja: -> please engage soon :) | 23:26 |
| harlowja | i engaged! | 23:26 |
| harlowja | warp drived | 23:26 |
| harlowja | lol | 23:26 |
| lifeless | harlowja: :) | 23:26 |
| lifeless | harlowja: can you think of any alternatives though? That we haven't tried (like pinning) | 23:27 |
| harlowja | reference architecture that doesn't require co-installability? | 23:27 |
| harlowja | each component can choose its own versions as it wants | 23:28 |
| harlowja | ? | 23:28 |
| harlowja | (component == project) | 23:28 |
| harlowja | sorta feels like larger deployers aren't co-installing anyways | 23:29 |
| lifeless | how does that work with Python ? | 23:29 |
| harlowja | different containers, servers for different projects? | 23:29 |
| lifeless | (Python objects aren't co-loadable in memory like they are in e.g. JS or java's thing interface thing | 23:29 |
| harlowja | not a pyhton thing, just a reference deployment architecture | 23:29 |
| harlowja | at a decent enough scale u aren't running all things in 1 box anyway :-P | 23:30 |
| lifeless | harlowja: I mean like oslo.messaging uses oslo.config and tooz uses oslo.config and oslo.config does a break | 23:30 |
| harlowja | u call oslo.config people naughty | 23:30 |
| harlowja | thats the first thing u do | 23:30 |
| lifeless | that doesn't really help though | 23:31 |
| harlowja | lol | 23:31 |
| harlowja | so ya, i get where u are going | 23:31 |
| harlowja | even with smaller containers of things, u still have similar issues | 23:31 |
| harlowja | is there any work ongoing to do co-loadable stuff in pyhton upstream? | 23:32 |
| harlowja | (and whatever crazyness would be required for that) | 23:32 |
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| harlowja | (not an easy change by any measure) | 23:33 |
| lifeless | no | 23:33 |
| lifeless | no interest in it at all | 23:33 |
| harlowja | ya, to bad | 23:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/tooz: Add programatic introspection of drivers capabilities https://review.openstack.org/240681 | 23:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/tooz: Add programatic introspection of drivers capabilities https://review.openstack.org/240681 | 23:48 |
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| lifeless | harlowja: well | 23:50 |
| lifeless | harlowja: its a much more complex model to deal with in js and java | 23:50 |
| harlowja | well js i think they built this in from the start, i don't recall java (but i think it also thought about this from the start) | 23:50 |
| * harlowja memory on different languages is fading, ha | 23:51 | |
| lifeless | osgi | 23:51 |
| lifeless | thats the thing | 23:51 |
| lifeless | its terrifying | 23:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Fix the wrong reference for DeprecationWarning https://review.openstack.org/246721 | 23:52 |
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| harlowja | lifeless ah ya, thats right osgi | 23:56 |
| harlowja | i remember that :-P | 23:56 |
| harlowja | *a little memory of that, ha | 23:56 |
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