Monday, 2015-11-16

*** stevemar_ has joined #openstack-oslo00:00
*** itisha has quit IRC00:01
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Remove python 2.6 and cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24549100:14
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.rootwrap: Remove python 2.6 and cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24548400:16
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/automaton: Remove python 2.6 and cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24546700:18
*** jerrygb has quit IRC00:18
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/futurist: Remove python 2.6 and cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24546900:19
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/pycadf: Remove python 2.6 and cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24549200:20
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/tooz: Remove python 2.6 and cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24549600:21
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/tooz: Remove python 2.6 and cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24549600:22
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/taskflow: Remove python 2.6 and cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24549500:23
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/debtcollector: Remove python 2.6 and cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24546800:23
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslosphinx: cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24554500:25
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.log: Remove python 2.6 and cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24547900:26
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.db: Remove python 2.6 and cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24547700:28
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.concurrency: Remove python 2.6 and cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24547400:30
*** mriedem has quit IRC00:30
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.policy: Remove python 2.6 and cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24548200:33
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.vmware: Remove python 2.6 and cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24548900:35
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24548000:36
*** ndipanov has joined #openstack-oslo00:36
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.reports: Remove python 2.6 and cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24548300:37
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.utils: Remove python 2.6 and cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24548700:38
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.config: Remove python 2.6 and cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24547500:39
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24548800:41
*** stevemar_ has quit IRC00:42
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Remove python 2.6 and cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24548100:42
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.service: cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24548600:43
*** stevemar_ has joined #openstack-oslo00:44
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.i18n: Remove python 2.6 and cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24547800:44
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.context: Remove python 2.6 and cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24547600:46
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.serialization: Remove python 2.6 and cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24548500:47
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/stevedore: cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24549400:48
*** stevemar_ has quit IRC00:49
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.cache: Remove python 2.6 and cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24547300:52
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/pylockfile: Remove python 2.6  https://review.openstack.org/24549300:53
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslotest: Remove python 2.6 and cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24549000:54
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/mox3: cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24547000:56
*** pm90_ has quit IRC01:03
*** pm90_ has joined #openstack-oslo01:27
*** bapalm has quit IRC01:29
*** evgenyl has quit IRC01:33
*** sigmavirus24_awa has quit IRC01:33
*** davidlenwell has quit IRC01:33
*** Nakato has quit IRC01:33
*** gus has quit IRC01:33
*** timsim has quit IRC01:33
*** wendar has quit IRC01:33
*** wendar_ has joined #openstack-oslo01:33
*** evgenyl has joined #openstack-oslo01:34
*** jamielennox has quit IRC01:34
*** davidlenwell has joined #openstack-oslo01:34
*** adam_g has quit IRC01:35
*** jroll has quit IRC01:35
*** fungi has quit IRC01:35
*** Nakato has joined #openstack-oslo01:35
*** gus has joined #openstack-oslo01:37
*** jroll has joined #openstack-oslo01:38
*** adam_g has joined #openstack-oslo01:38
*** adam_g has quit IRC01:38
*** adam_g has joined #openstack-oslo01:38
*** fungi has joined #openstack-oslo01:38
*** timsim has joined #openstack-oslo01:39
*** jerrygb has joined #openstack-oslo01:39
*** jamielennox has joined #openstack-oslo01:41
*** pm90_ has quit IRC01:41
*** sigmavirus24_awa has joined #openstack-oslo01:42
*** bapalm has joined #openstack-oslo01:56
*** droyal has quit IRC01:56
*** droyal has joined #openstack-oslo02:04
*** jerrygb has quit IRC02:04
*** bapalm has quit IRC02:04
*** dims has joined #openstack-oslo02:06
*** jerrygb has joined #openstack-oslo02:26
*** itisha has joined #openstack-oslo02:57
*** gcb has joined #openstack-oslo03:25
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.privsep: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/24540503:34
*** dims has quit IRC03:47
*** dims has joined #openstack-oslo03:48
*** dims has quit IRC04:08
*** links has joined #openstack-oslo04:11
*** amotoki has joined #openstack-oslo05:06
*** jecarey has joined #openstack-oslo05:09
*** itisha has quit IRC05:11
*** sileht has quit IRC05:12
*** pballand has quit IRC05:16
*** amotoki has quit IRC05:31
*** amotoki has joined #openstack-oslo05:44
*** _amrith_ is now known as amrith05:45
*** amotoki has quit IRC05:50
*** amrith is now known as _amrith_05:54
*** amotoki has joined #openstack-oslo05:56
*** jecarey has quit IRC06:10
*** stevemar_ has joined #openstack-oslo06:11
*** stevemar_ has quit IRC06:14
*** rcernin has joined #openstack-oslo06:16
*** jecarey has joined #openstack-oslo06:20
*** shakamunyi has joined #openstack-oslo06:21
*** jamielennox is now known as jamielennox|away06:25
*** jecarey has quit IRC06:25
*** zqfan_afk has quit IRC06:26
*** dhellmann has quit IRC06:28
*** frickler has quit IRC06:28
*** frickler has joined #openstack-oslo06:28
*** dhellmann has joined #openstack-oslo06:28
*** jecarey has joined #openstack-oslo06:32
*** dhellmann has quit IRC06:34
*** dhellmann has joined #openstack-oslo06:34
openstackgerritMerged openstack-dev/pbr: Support git://, git+ssh://, git+https:// without -e flag.  https://review.openstack.org/19440506:37
*** jecarey has quit IRC06:37
*** shakamunyi has quit IRC06:39
*** deray has joined #openstack-oslo06:52
*** shakamunyi has joined #openstack-oslo06:54
*** eezhova has quit IRC07:01
*** jerrygb has quit IRC07:03
*** Nakato_ has joined #openstack-oslo07:09
*** davidlenwell_ has joined #openstack-oslo07:10
*** sileht has joined #openstack-oslo07:11
*** SamYaple_ has joined #openstack-oslo07:11
*** zz_dimtruck has joined #openstack-oslo07:14
*** dimtruck has quit IRC07:15
*** davidlenwell has quit IRC07:15
*** zz_dimtruck is now known as dimtruck07:15
*** Nakato has quit IRC07:15
*** tristanC has quit IRC07:15
*** SamYaple has quit IRC07:15
*** eezhova has joined #openstack-oslo07:18
*** Nakato_ is now known as Nakato07:20
*** tristanC has joined #openstack-oslo07:20
*** zqfan_afk has joined #openstack-oslo07:22
*** boris-42 has joined #openstack-oslo07:23
*** nkrinner has joined #openstack-oslo07:33
*** yamamoto has joined #openstack-oslo07:58
*** e0ne has joined #openstack-oslo08:04
*** nkrinner has quit IRC08:10
openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/oslo.utils: All extra sanitize keys in mask_password  https://review.openstack.org/24565808:13
*** nkrinner has joined #openstack-oslo08:15
openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/oslo.utils: Add extra sanitize keys in mask_password  https://review.openstack.org/24565808:19
*** tobe has joined #openstack-oslo08:34
*** shardy has joined #openstack-oslo08:40
*** ndipanov has quit IRC08:41
*** exploreshaifali has joined #openstack-oslo08:50
*** jerrygb has joined #openstack-oslo09:04
*** jerrygb has quit IRC09:08
openstackgerritMerged openstack/pylockfile: Remove python 2.6  https://review.openstack.org/24549309:08
*** ajo_ is now known as ajo09:10
*** yassine has joined #openstack-oslo09:13
openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/oslo.utils: Add extra sanitize keys in mask_password  https://review.openstack.org/24565809:13
*** e0ne has quit IRC09:21
*** e0ne has joined #openstack-oslo09:21
*** xek_ is now known as xek09:22
*** yamamoto has quit IRC09:26
*** frickler has quit IRC09:44
*** tobe has quit IRC09:44
*** tobe has joined #openstack-oslo09:45
openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/oslo.service: Remove openstack-common.conf  https://review.openstack.org/24567909:47
*** frickler has joined #openstack-oslo09:48
*** gcb has quit IRC09:51
*** cdent has joined #openstack-oslo10:07
*** cdent has left #openstack-oslo10:08
*** ozamiatin has joined #openstack-oslo10:11
*** openstackgerrit has quit IRC10:16
*** openstackgerrit has joined #openstack-oslo10:17
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.utils: Refactor Port number validation  https://review.openstack.org/24529610:21
*** yamamoto has joined #openstack-oslo10:22
*** yamamoto_ has joined #openstack-oslo10:23
*** yamamoto has quit IRC10:27
haypohttp://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2015/11/12/210:34
*** yamamoto_ has quit IRC10:36
*** tobe has quit IRC10:36
*** zqfan_afk is now known as zqfan10:41
*** yamamoto has joined #openstack-oslo10:49
*** exploreshaifali has quit IRC10:49
*** exploreshaifali has joined #openstack-oslo10:53
*** stevemar_ has joined #openstack-oslo11:12
*** dims has joined #openstack-oslo11:12
*** deray has quit IRC11:15
*** stevemar_ has quit IRC11:15
*** links has quit IRC11:21
openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/oslo.utils: Add extra sanitize keys in mask_password  https://review.openstack.org/24565811:26
*** gcb has joined #openstack-oslo11:27
*** exploreshaifali has quit IRC11:28
dimshaypo : for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245285/, are the 3 scenarios in the test case wrong? which ones are wrong? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245285/2/oslo_serialization/tests/test_jsonutils.py,cm11:33
*** ozamiatin has quit IRC11:38
*** xek has quit IRC11:47
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.privsep: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/24340511:49
*** _amrith_ is now known as amrith11:54
*** links has joined #openstack-oslo11:55
*** yamamoto has quit IRC11:56
*** links has quit IRC11:59
*** amotoki has quit IRC12:00
*** ihrachys has joined #openstack-oslo12:03
*** jerrygb has joined #openstack-oslo12:04
*** jerrygb has quit IRC12:09
*** yamamoto has joined #openstack-oslo12:21
*** ihrachys has quit IRC12:33
*** ozamiatin has joined #openstack-oslo12:36
*** ihrachys has joined #openstack-oslo12:36
*** gordc has joined #openstack-oslo12:38
*** ekarlso has quit IRC12:39
*** ekarlso has joined #openstack-oslo12:39
*** yassine has quit IRC12:39
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.service: Remove openstack-common.conf  https://review.openstack.org/24567912:43
*** openstack has joined #openstack-oslo12:50
-cameron.freenode.net- [freenode-info] channel trolls and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp12:50
*** jaypipes has joined #openstack-oslo12:51
*** zqfan is now known as zqfan_AFK12:57
openstackgerritzhangsong proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: Fix the bug of can't get the desired image info  https://review.openstack.org/24540712:59
*** ihrachys has quit IRC13:00
openstackgerritzhangsong proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: Fix the bug of can't get the desired image info  https://review.openstack.org/24540713:01
openstackgerritzhangsong proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: Fix the bug of can't get the desired image info  https://review.openstack.org/24540713:02
*** yassine has joined #openstack-oslo13:04
*** yassine has quit IRC13:04
*** yassine has joined #openstack-oslo13:04
*** ihrachys has joined #openstack-oslo13:04
*** exploreshaifali has joined #openstack-oslo13:12
*** pm90_ has joined #openstack-oslo13:15
*** pradk has joined #openstack-oslo13:16
*** kgiusti has joined #openstack-oslo13:17
*** edmondsw has joined #openstack-oslo13:28
*** stevemar_ has joined #openstack-oslo13:33
*** alejandrito has joined #openstack-oslo13:36
openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/oslo.serialization: Fix bug track URL  https://review.openstack.org/24576613:44
*** amrith is now known as _amrith_13:48
*** boris-42 has quit IRC13:48
*** ihrachys has quit IRC13:49
*** pblaho has quit IRC13:50
*** ihrachys has joined #openstack-oslo13:52
*** zhiyan has quit IRC13:53
*** DuncanT has quit IRC13:53
*** greghaynes has quit IRC13:53
*** zhiyan has joined #openstack-oslo13:54
*** greghaynes has joined #openstack-oslo13:54
*** DuncanT has joined #openstack-oslo13:56
*** fultonj has joined #openstack-oslo13:57
*** rlrossit has joined #openstack-oslo13:57
*** boris-42 has joined #openstack-oslo14:01
*** nikhil_k_ is now known as nikhil__14:03
*** ihrachys has quit IRC14:05
openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/oslo.serialization: jsonutils : drop Python 2.6 workaroud  https://review.openstack.org/24578314:05
openstackgerritAlexis Lee proposed openstack/oslo.config: Remove 'raise' in _get  https://review.openstack.org/24578414:06
openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/oslo.serialization: jsonutils : drop Python 2.6 workaround  https://review.openstack.org/24578314:07
*** yamamoto has quit IRC14:08
*** ekarlso has quit IRC14:09
*** itisha has joined #openstack-oslo14:11
*** dimtruck is now known as zz_dimtruck14:12
*** nikhil__ is now known as nikhil_k14:15
*** zz_dimtruck is now known as dimtruck14:15
*** ihrachys has joined #openstack-oslo14:16
*** achanda has joined #openstack-oslo14:19
*** regXboi has joined #openstack-oslo14:20
openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/oslo.serialization: msgpackutils: drop Python 2.6 support  https://review.openstack.org/24578714:20
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.service: Change "started child" messages to DEBUG  https://review.openstack.org/24402114:24
openstackgerritMerged openstack-dev/pbr: Do not error when running pep8 with py3  https://review.openstack.org/24036714:26
*** jerrygb has joined #openstack-oslo14:29
*** jerrygb has quit IRC14:29
*** jerrygb has joined #openstack-oslo14:29
*** mriedem has joined #openstack-oslo14:30
*** ekarlso has joined #openstack-oslo14:33
*** ihrachys has quit IRC14:34
*** pblaho has joined #openstack-oslo14:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.middleware: Add oslo_config program support to paste middleware  https://review.openstack.org/24537114:38
*** lascii is now known as alaski14:39
*** zqfan_AFK is now known as zqfan14:41
*** ihrachys has joined #openstack-oslo14:42
*** pm90__ has joined #openstack-oslo14:42
*** deray has joined #openstack-oslo14:43
*** pm90_ has quit IRC14:44
*** ihrachys has quit IRC14:45
*** ihrachys has joined #openstack-oslo14:46
*** regXboi has quit IRC14:46
*** regXboi has joined #openstack-oslo14:48
*** bapalm has joined #openstack-oslo14:51
*** deray has quit IRC14:51
*** deray has joined #openstack-oslo14:51
*** ihrachys has quit IRC14:53
*** bapalm has quit IRC14:53
*** amotoki has joined #openstack-oslo15:03
*** ihrachys has joined #openstack-oslo15:03
*** bapalm has joined #openstack-oslo15:04
*** cdent has joined #openstack-oslo15:07
*** cdent has left #openstack-oslo15:07
*** _amrith_ is now known as amrith15:09
*** yamamoto has joined #openstack-oslo15:09
*** regXboi has quit IRC15:13
*** yamamoto has quit IRC15:13
*** achanda has quit IRC15:13
*** sigmavirus24_awa is now known as sigmavirus2415:14
*** achanda has joined #openstack-oslo15:16
*** SamYaple_ is now known as SamYaple15:17
openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/oslo.utils: Fix wrong bug tracking link  https://review.openstack.org/24581815:18
*** mtanino has joined #openstack-oslo15:20
*** pm90__ is now known as pratikmallya15:26
*** jdandrea has joined #openstack-oslo15:27
jdandreadims: Ohai! Trying to sleugh https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245303/ ... even *without* my fix, I still get errors when running tox. Unsure what I might be doing wrong. Any ideas?15:28
*** pblaho has quit IRC15:28
jdandreas/sleugh/sleuth15:28
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/oslotest: mockpatch: deprecate in favor of native fixtures  https://review.openstack.org/24519915:30
dimsearly heads up - oslo meeting in 30 mins :)15:30
dimsjdandrea will look in a little bit15:30
jdandreadims: np, tx15:31
*** regXboi has joined #openstack-oslo15:31
*** ihrachys has quit IRC15:31
*** ozamiatin has quit IRC15:31
gcbdims:   we still use https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting ,right ?15:34
*** ihrachys has joined #openstack-oslo15:34
*** pratikmallya has quit IRC15:34
dimsgcb : i gather notes for meetings here - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-meeting-agenda15:35
gcbI would like to raise Make enforce_type=True by default in CONF.set_override https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/enforce_type_true_by_default15:35
dimsgcb i'll add a topic15:36
gcbthanks15:36
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-oslo15:39
*** pratikmallya has joined #openstack-oslo15:41
*** thangp has joined #openstack-oslo15:45
*** exploreshaifali has quit IRC15:47
*** ihrachys has quit IRC15:47
*** jecarey has joined #openstack-oslo15:48
*** lxsli has joined #openstack-oslo15:48
*** ihrachys has joined #openstack-oslo15:50
*** mc_nair has joined #openstack-oslo15:52
*** harlowja_at_home has joined #openstack-oslo15:53
*** ihrachys has quit IRC15:53
dimsharlowja_at_home : awake? :)15:58
*** rpodolyaka1 has joined #openstack-oslo15:58
harlowja_at_homeyup!15:58
*** ihrachys has joined #openstack-oslo15:58
* harlowja_at_home set my alarm and everything :-P15:58
*** ozamiatin has joined #openstack-oslo16:00
*** pblaho has joined #openstack-oslo16:03
*** pratikmallya has quit IRC16:05
*** pblaho has quit IRC16:07
*** pblaho has joined #openstack-oslo16:09
*** jecarey has quit IRC16:11
*** jecarey has joined #openstack-oslo16:14
*** ihrachys has quit IRC16:16
*** ihrachys has joined #openstack-oslo16:17
*** jecarey has quit IRC16:18
*** amotoki has quit IRC16:19
*** wendar_ is now known as wendar16:26
lxsliin oslo.config, can a group contain another group? I see some support in the code but I'm not sure how you could express that16:27
lxsliderp, read more carefully this time16:27
*** deray has quit IRC16:29
*** deray has joined #openstack-oslo16:30
*** pratikmallya has joined #openstack-oslo16:31
*** ihrachys has quit IRC16:33
*** pratikma_ has joined #openstack-oslo16:33
*** pratikmallya has quit IRC16:36
*** harlowja_at_home has quit IRC16:39
*** jerrygb has quit IRC16:39
*** ihrachys has joined #openstack-oslo16:40
*** ozamiatin has quit IRC16:41
*** pballand has joined #openstack-oslo16:42
pkholkinzzzeek: Mike, are here?16:47
zzzeekI am not16:47
zzzeekI am on a phone in the airport16:47
*** jerrygb has joined #openstack-oslo16:47
pkholkinzzzeek: ok, when you will be available? we have some problem with enginefacade in nova16:48
*** pballand has quit IRC16:49
pkholkinshortly, this script http://xsnippet.org/361142/ doesn't work16:49
zzzeekLater today.16:49
pkholkinok thanks! we will appreciate you help16:49
rpodolyaka1pkholkin: I'll give it another try after dinner :P16:50
zzzeekGreat that is an easy script I can run just send it where I'll see it in email16:50
pkholkinrpodolyaka1: thanks Roman!16:50
*** achanda has quit IRC16:51
*** pballand has joined #openstack-oslo16:53
pkholkinzzzeek: we created with simple script just to test it without nova, we have the same problem in 'tags' section after catching DBDuplicateEntry exception16:53
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.serialization: Fix bug track URL  https://review.openstack.org/24576616:54
*** gcb has quit IRC16:55
*** rlrossit has quit IRC16:56
*** rlrossit has joined #openstack-oslo17:01
rpodolyaka1pkholkin: I cleaned the script a bit - http://xsnippet.org/361144/17:02
rpodolyaka1so that only crucial parts are there17:02
*** jaypipes has quit IRC17:02
rpodolyaka1note the execute() vs flush() difference17:02
rpodolyaka1I'd actually expect the result to be the same17:03
rpodolyaka1except the fact flush() updates the internal session state with regards what queries have been actually sent to the DB17:03
*** jecarey has joined #openstack-oslo17:04
*** ihrachys_ has joined #openstack-oslo17:05
rpodolyaka1pkholkin: http://xsnippet.org/361145/ that's even simpler17:06
*** ihrachys has quit IRC17:06
*** jecarey has quit IRC17:09
*** hemanthm_ has joined #openstack-oslo17:09
*** hemanthm_ is now known as hemanthm17:09
*** nkrinner has quit IRC17:11
hemanthmHey, oslo folks! Is there a way to time db queries with oslo.db?17:11
rpodolyaka1hemanthm: so the easiest way is probably to enable logging17:13
rpodolyaka1hemanthm: https://github.com/openstack/oslo.db/blob/master/oslo_db/options.py#L100-L10517:13
rpodolyaka1hemanthm: connection_debug=100 will print SQL statements and returned values. and then it's up to your logging setup17:14
rpodolyaka1hemanthm: whether you include timestamps in the log format or not17:14
hemanthmah, I see.17:15
*** davidlenwell_ is now known as davidlenwell17:15
hemanthmthanks rpodolyaka117:15
*** deray has quit IRC17:15
*** deray has joined #openstack-oslo17:15
*** jecarey has joined #openstack-oslo17:15
rpodolyaka1hemanthm: a more elaborate way would be http://docs.sqlalchemy.org/en/latest/faq/performance.html17:16
rpodolyaka1hemanthm: np17:16
*** ozamiatin has joined #openstack-oslo17:17
*** ihrachys_ has quit IRC17:18
*** ozamiatin has quit IRC17:18
*** jecarey_ has joined #openstack-oslo17:19
*** jecarey has quit IRC17:20
*** pblaho has quit IRC17:20
*** mriedem has quit IRC17:22
*** jecarey_ has quit IRC17:24
*** rpodolyaka1 has quit IRC17:24
*** ihrachys has joined #openstack-oslo17:24
*** ihrachys has quit IRC17:25
*** ozamiatin has joined #openstack-oslo17:26
*** e0ne has quit IRC17:27
*** ihrachys has joined #openstack-oslo17:29
*** ViswaV has quit IRC17:32
*** ViswaV has joined #openstack-oslo17:34
*** jecarey has joined #openstack-oslo17:34
*** jecarey has quit IRC17:38
mordreddhellmann: heya17:38
dhellmannmordred : o/17:39
mordreddhellmann: so, trying to get up to speed on the cliutils discussion from the mailing list before I reply and make a fool of myself17:39
dhellmannk17:39
mordredthe _current_ thing is the thing that's in incubator, right?17:39
dhellmannI believe there are different versions of the thing in different places, because someone put it in the incubator and then didn't keep up pressure to sync it17:40
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/oslotest: mockpatch: deprecate in favor of native fixtures  https://review.openstack.org/24519917:40
*** jaypipes has joined #openstack-oslo17:40
mordreddhellmann: ok. oh - and this is different than the apiclient thing17:40
mordredwhich does not seem to be in incubator anymore?17:40
dhellmannmordred : it is different, but in much the same state17:41
*** zqfan is now known as zqfan_AFK17:41
dhellmannat least, that's my understanding17:41
mordredk17:41
mordredso - the reason I'm asking17:41
dhellmanndims may have a better status, though17:41
*** jecarey has joined #openstack-oslo17:41
mordredis that I've been starting to poke at keystoneauth1/os-client-config-ification of python-*client17:41
mordredand I believe we may have overlapping of effort/concerns17:42
dhellmannyes, I wouldn't be surprised17:42
*** rcernin has quit IRC17:42
dhellmannthe folks working on the request id spec also put together a spec about the apiclient stuff, but I haven't been following it very closely -- the release changes are consuming most of my attention17:43
mordredgreat. I'll see if I can find17:43
mordredit17:43
dhellmannmordred : https://review.openstack.org/23520017:43
mordredLOVELY17:43
*** jecarey has quit IRC17:46
dhellmannmordred : looking at cliutils, it isn't clear to me that's of much use because it's so minimal -- is it?17:46
mordredI don't think so, no17:46
mordredand thanks - that spec was super help17:47
mordredful17:47
*** ihrachys has quit IRC17:47
*** ozamiatin has quit IRC17:48
*** ihrachys has joined #openstack-oslo17:48
*** ihrachys has quit IRC17:49
*** rlrossit has quit IRC17:50
*** jecarey has joined #openstack-oslo17:53
*** ihrachys has joined #openstack-oslo17:54
*** rlrossit has joined #openstack-oslo17:54
*** jecarey_ has joined #openstack-oslo17:55
*** jecarey has quit IRC17:57
*** jecarey_ has quit IRC17:59
*** sputnik13 has joined #openstack-oslo18:00
*** jecarey has joined #openstack-oslo18:01
sdaguemordred: if you are going to tackle this, I think the issue needs to be a pragmatic one. The projects that have self deprecated their native clis are the ones that have a very small api surface. Honestly, I can't imagine we can do that any time soon in nova, given the gulf between osc and nova. However if there were some best practices on what to do in client trees to make them more convergent, that would be great.18:02
*** mriedem has joined #openstack-oslo18:03
mordredyah18:03
mordredsdague: well, that's kind of what I've been starting to poke at18:03
sdaguemordred: awesome18:03
mordredsdague: and I'm getting close to being ready to write something up18:03
sdaguevery cool18:03
mordredsdague: I agree- nova isn't going away any time soon, nor neutron18:04
*** deray has quit IRC18:04
mordredmy first step/concern is "make these things consume the same cloud configuration across clouds.yaml, env vars and command line options" - which it turns out is actually not a very big task18:04
mordredsince they're _mostly_ all the same already18:04
sdagueyep18:05
mordredbut if we do that and it's documented well - AND it's the same thing as OSC18:05
*** ihrachys has quit IRC18:05
sdagueyes, that's all awesome sauce18:05
mordredthen interchangably using nova and osc isn't as painful as it is now18:05
*** harlowja has joined #openstack-oslo18:06
sdagueyeh, also if there is tree reorg in novaclient (api side) to make it work better in osc, that would be fine as well18:07
*** crc32 has joined #openstack-oslo18:08
*** ihrachys has joined #openstack-oslo18:10
*** rcernin has joined #openstack-oslo18:12
mordredsdague: next time I feel like yak-shaving, and after getting novaclient on keystoneauth18:14
mordredsdague: I'd kind of like to go through novaclient and have it use the native requsts-like api intead of the LegacyJSONAdapter ... but I probably will not get to that this cycle18:14
sdagueyeh, so, honestly, if you can sketch out what you think that would look like, we might be able to get some newer folks to bite on it18:15
sdagueit would be a good way to grow / mentor people as well as get a thing done18:15
*** sputnik13 has quit IRC18:19
*** sputnik13 has joined #openstack-oslo18:20
*** ihrachys has quit IRC18:22
*** e0ne has joined #openstack-oslo18:24
*** rpodolyaka1 has joined #openstack-oslo18:32
*** rpodolyaka1 has quit IRC18:34
*** rpodolyaka1 has joined #openstack-oslo18:34
*** jecarey has quit IRC18:37
*** jecarey has joined #openstack-oslo18:38
*** rpodolyaka1 has quit IRC18:41
*** jecarey has quit IRC18:43
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC18:44
*** rpodolyaka1 has joined #openstack-oslo18:49
harlowjadims https://gist.githubusercontent.com/harlowja/b71e85efd0fa914baf96/raw/7a4d13ecd6b37713cc5a101a4b5571b5be4e5b81/gistfile1.txt18:52
harlowjalook ok to u?18:52
*** rlrossit has quit IRC18:53
harlowja^ may or may not be organic, lol18:55
*** rlrossit has joined #openstack-oslo19:00
*** pratikma_ is now known as pratikmallya19:00
harlowjadims https://gist.github.com/harlowja/6c00b621de803423078b (fixed small grammer issue)19:00
harlowjasputnik13 ^19:00
harlowjamind checking ;)19:00
harlowjawith your grammar powers19:00
harlowjalol19:00
sputnik13during this week's19:01
sputnik13line 719:01
sputnik13days of the week are capitalized line 919:01
sputnik13craftsman -> craftsmen19:02
sputnik13maybe craftspersons to be PC ;)19:02
harlowjadamn19:02
harlowjalol19:02
harlowjacraftspersons then19:02
harlowja:-P19:03
sputnik13We would like you see --> We would like to see19:03
sputnik13line 1119:03
harlowja:)19:03
harlowjathx mate19:03
* harlowja fixes up this stuff19:03
sputnik13line 15 also days of the week19:03
sputnik13that looks like it19:03
sputnik13:)19:03
harlowja:)19:03
harlowjau my hero19:03
*** mixos has joined #openstack-oslo19:04
sputnik13here to serve :)19:05
*** itisha has quit IRC19:11
harlowjadims https://gist.github.com/harlowja/dc2c573c4d5ff9287c22 ok, think i got all sputnik13 changes in19:13
harlowjadims let me know if ok, will send after confirm19:13
sputnik13day of the week need to be capitalized19:14
harlowjaoh19:14
sputnik13thursday -> Thursdasy19:14
harlowjadamn19:14
sputnik13friday -> Friday19:14
harlowjayes sir19:15
sputnik13:)19:15
harlowjarepaired version @ https://gist.github.com/harlowja/017e4d8199a70d3073d019:15
sputnik13yay doc sprint19:16
*** crc32 has quit IRC19:21
*** yassine has quit IRC19:23
harlowjaif we can get all oslo libs/projects to taskflow doclevels i'll be a happy camper19:24
harlowjaeventually :-P19:24
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-oslo19:25
*** browne has joined #openstack-oslo19:27
sputnik13me thinks harlowja will find other things to gripe about19:29
harlowjalol19:29
harlowjasputnik13 likely ;)19:30
*** browne has quit IRC19:30
harlowjahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/210549/ is interesting19:30
harlowjai need to find/talk with that Fabien Hermenier guy19:31
harlowja*see comment in that review19:31
* harlowja needs to figure out a way to make that spec possible19:33
harlowjabiggest challenge yet for openstack imho is that specs described problem...19:33
*** sreshetnyak has quit IRC19:33
harlowjaoh man, i noticed that guys code @ https://github.com/btrplace/scheduler is java, omg, eck19:34
harlowjalol19:34
harlowja* http://www.btrplace.org/19:34
harlowjaseems like a nice thing that could be incorporated into all of openstack...19:34
mixosCould anyone take a look at the bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/+bug/151674519:35
openstackLaunchpad bug 1516745 in oslo.messaging "should raise expception when rabbit broker has blocked the connection" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Sungjin Yook (sungyook)19:35
mixosto see if it makes sense.19:35
mixosThanks.19:35
*** sigmavirus24 is now known as sigmavirus24_awa19:35
*** sigmavirus24_awa is now known as sigmavirus2419:36
*** crc32 has joined #openstack-oslo19:46
*** samueldmq has quit IRC19:55
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC19:56
*** melwitt has quit IRC19:57
*** redrobot has quit IRC19:57
*** melwitt has joined #openstack-oslo19:58
*** Guest98343 has joined #openstack-oslo19:58
*** zzzeek has quit IRC19:58
*** rcernin has quit IRC19:58
*** kevinbenton has quit IRC19:59
*** kevinbenton has joined #openstack-oslo19:59
*** Guest98343 is now known as redrobot20:00
*** zzzeek has joined #openstack-oslo20:01
openstackgerritClint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed openstack/oslo.serialization: Always use simplejson  https://review.openstack.org/24595720:01
SpamapSharlowja: ^20:01
*** e0ne has quit IRC20:09
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-oslo20:14
*** mixos has quit IRC20:16
*** itisha has joined #openstack-oslo20:18
*** jecarey_ has joined #openstack-oslo20:19
*** mixos has joined #openstack-oslo20:19
*** jecarey__ has joined #openstack-oslo20:20
openstackgerritMin Pae proposed openstack/taskflow: Adding notification points for job completion  https://review.openstack.org/24170820:20
*** jecarey_ has quit IRC20:23
* dims pushing the release buttons for oslo libs for this week20:23
*** jecarey__ has quit IRC20:24
rpodolyaka1\o/20:26
*** rlrossit has quit IRC20:28
openstackgerritSungjin Yook proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: should raise expception when rabbit broker has blocked the connection  https://review.openstack.org/24596920:31
*** rlrossit has joined #openstack-oslo20:32
openstackgerritSungjin Yook proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: should raise expception when rabbit broker has blocked the connection  https://review.openstack.org/24596920:33
*** jecarey has joined #openstack-oslo20:35
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.config: improve wording of comment in previous commit  https://review.openstack.org/24597220:39
*** jecarey has quit IRC20:40
*** rpodolyaka1 has quit IRC20:47
*** rpodolyaka1 has joined #openstack-oslo20:48
*** ekarlso has quit IRC20:50
*** ekarlso has joined #openstack-oslo20:50
*** jecarey has joined #openstack-oslo20:51
*** jecarey has quit IRC20:55
*** yamahata has joined #openstack-oslo20:55
*** rpodolyaka1 has quit IRC21:02
*** cprmrf has joined #openstack-oslo21:05
*** jecarey has joined #openstack-oslo21:06
*** rpodolyaka1 has joined #openstack-oslo21:07
*** rpodolyaka1 has quit IRC21:09
*** sileht has quit IRC21:09
*** jecarey has quit IRC21:10
*** pballand has quit IRC21:12
*** pballand has joined #openstack-oslo21:13
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: remove bad entry point test logic  https://review.openstack.org/24598821:17
*** jamielennox|away is now known as jamielennox21:18
*** crc32 has quit IRC21:22
*** pratikmallya has quit IRC21:25
*** rpodolyaka1 has joined #openstack-oslo21:30
*** crc32 has joined #openstack-oslo21:32
*** crc32 has quit IRC21:33
*** shardy has quit IRC21:33
*** crc32 has joined #openstack-oslo21:33
dhellmanndims : I'm +2ing all of these tox.ini changes, but are you sure that nothing in the CI system depends on the VIRTUAL_ENV variable being set?21:35
*** fhermeni has joined #openstack-oslo21:35
*** jaypipes has quit IRC21:35
dimsdhellmann : i ran them several times over the weekend, so far looks like they hold up21:35
dhellmanndims : yeah, I'm worried about things like translations or jobs that aren't run in the check queue. I don't know, I'm just being paranoid. :-)21:36
dimsdhellmann fair point, we'll see more churn with dropping classifiers etc, so we will catch it :)21:36
dhellmanndims : ++21:37
* dhellmann needs an approve all script21:37
*** jecarey has joined #openstack-oslo21:38
dimsdhellmann we need a stackalytics to filter these stuff!21:38
*** pratikmallya has joined #openstack-oslo21:38
dhellmanndims : what, and give up my review stats?!?21:39
harlowjalol21:39
dimshaha21:39
*** pratikma_ has joined #openstack-oslo21:39
dimsdhellmann : i am seeing bot like behavior with some +1's coming in as soon as i create a review. have you?21:40
dhellmanndims : no, I haven't noticed that. Example?21:40
dimsone sec21:41
*** thangp has quit IRC21:42
dimsdhellmann this one stands out - http://stackalytics.com/?user_id=venkatamaheshkotha21:42
harlowjadims https://gist.github.com/harlowja/017e4d8199a70d3073d0 look ok to u?21:42
*** jecarey has quit IRC21:42
*** pratikmallya has quit IRC21:43
dimsharlowja : awesome, let's add "virtual" somewhere prominent21:43
harlowjakk21:44
*** pratikma_ has quit IRC21:45
*** kgiusti has quit IRC21:48
*** mixos has quit IRC21:51
*** jecarey has joined #openstack-oslo21:54
fhermenihi there21:58
dimsfhermeni hi21:59
*** rpodolyaka1 has quit IRC22:00
harlowjafhermeni hi there22:08
harlowjaso fhermeni i was thinking22:08
harlowjain my mind fhermeni if u want to co-author https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210549/ with me, i'd be ok with that, i think u have much greater expertise in this than me22:09
*** fultonj has quit IRC22:09
harlowjarandom idea of the day (from me)22:09
harlowjaha22:09
harlowjaand maybe i can help the openstack red-tape and all that, because that one will require much work imho22:09
harlowjaand/or its a huge cross-project, likely year(s) long thing to achieve22:10
fhermeniharlowja: Thanks, I appreciate the offer. I accept with pleasure if that is ok on the openstack side22:10
harlowjaits ok with me :)22:10
harlowjahave u used gerrit to do reviews before?22:10
fhermeniharlowja: and as you will, I don't have all your skill in terms of doing things for production and dealing with industry class software22:10
harlowja:)22:11
harlowjathats fine22:11
*** ekarlso has quit IRC22:11
harlowjathe community combined is what gives us the true power, ha22:11
fhermeniharlowja: I never used gerrit but I will try22:11
harlowjai'd like to get SpamapS mordred deva also inovled in that to22:11
harlowjafhermeni thats ok22:11
harlowjai think if u search u can find some guides, i forget the links22:11
fhermeniharlowja: (and sorry for programming in Java ;))22:11
fhermeniharlowja: k22:11
harlowjahaha, that was a joke ;)22:12
harlowjafhermeni due to recent discussions around java :)22:12
harlowja(long story)22:12
harlowjalol22:12
fhermeniharlowja: no worry22:12
fhermeniharlowja: so I can review whatever you want about constraint definition. It will be nice. However, if you have more notes about what the plans are, tell me22:13
harlowjafhermeni plans are all in my head, therefore all over the place right now22:14
harlowjalol22:14
harlowjabut the basic idea, is how can we make scheduling across projects, without disrupting those projects possible, in a way that moves the bar forward for openstack long-term22:14
harlowjabecause imho we need it22:15
harlowjathe constraint format i sorta made up last week, so it might be a good thing to improve with your knowledge22:15
harlowjasince i think u have experience with the format/defintion and have a better idea what would be needed22:15
mordredwhat did I do?22:15
fhermenijust in case "project" is basically a set of VM that collaborates to run a single distributed app for example ?22:15
harlowjamordred yo, soooo, have u seen https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210549/22:16
harlowjaits another ambitious thing for openstack22:16
harlowjafhermeni here has worked on these lines for a while, and i was thinking we as a community could figure out this big plan (or start to think about it)22:16
*** pratikmallya has joined #openstack-oslo22:17
harlowjafhermeni so project in that description was more of the various oepnstack projects [nova, glance, neutron, cinder]22:17
harlowjaif thats what u are referring to22:17
mordredharlowja: interesting - brain is full for today - but I bet SpamapS will dive in22:17
harlowjamordred np22:17
harlowjamordred when less full, thoughts appreciated22:18
harlowjaits imho one of bigger cross-project things to think about22:18
*** pratikma_ has joined #openstack-oslo22:18
harlowja(and/or how to get there)22:18
*** pratikmallya has quit IRC22:18
*** rlrossit has left #openstack-oslo22:19
*** amrith is now known as _amrith_22:19
*** pratikmallya has joined #openstack-oslo22:19
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.middleware: Define entry points for filter factories for Paste Deployment  https://review.openstack.org/23015622:20
*** ekarlso has joined #openstack-oslo22:20
*** pratikma_ has quit IRC22:22
fhermeniharlowja: ouch, huge load spike on btrplace website after my spam in the review. Thanks ;)22:25
harlowja:)22:25
harlowjahaha22:25
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.middleware: Remove python 2.6 and cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24548122:26
*** jamielennox is now known as jamielennox|away22:27
fhermeniAside btrplace, we are also trying to work on debugging and code generation techniques to have robust VM schedulers that are not buggy22:27
*** yamahata has quit IRC22:27
harlowjawell that sounds nice, ha22:27
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.vmware: Remove python 2.6 and cleanup tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/24548922:27
fhermeniand both btrplace and openstack have the same kind of bugs22:27
harlowjafhermeni well define buggy22:27
harlowjabuggy in as eventually consistent?22:27
harlowjaor buggy as in software bugs22:27
fhermenifalse positive: it allows placement it should not22:28
harlowjak22:28
fhermenifalse negatives: it denies placement it should not22:28
harlowjaright, so ya, openstack has those22:28
harlowja*or nova at least22:28
harlowja*for a variety of reasons22:28
fhermeniyep, these bugs are cool. usually easy to fix once discovered but very hard to discover22:29
*** sputnik13 has quit IRC22:29
harlowjaright22:29
harlowjaalthough idk if easy to fix :-P22:30
harlowjasome of the reasons in nova, i think are harder to fix22:30
harlowjaresource tracking being more eventually consistent than consistent (being one reason)22:30
harlowjanova-compute not doing much/any validation on requests for VM(s) it gets requested22:31
*** sputnik13 has joined #openstack-oslo22:31
harlowja(and likely others afaik)22:31
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.config: Remove 'raise' in _get  https://review.openstack.org/24578422:31
*** mixos has joined #openstack-oslo22:32
fhermeniAs BtrPlace is just an algorithm, I don't have to bother about eventual consistency. But those bugs are way harder to fix and should require to rethink the scheduling technic. Being less optimistic I would say22:32
fhermenibut I think there is some way to address that without having to place a huge lock on the scheduler each time something is beting scheduled :D22:33
fhermenibeing*22:34
*** mixos has quit IRC22:34
*** jaypipes has joined #openstack-oslo22:35
fhermeniharlowja: anyway. Tell me what is the next step about the spec and let's go22:35
jdandreaTried to resubmit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245303/ ... still getting python27/34 errors, with or without my patch. *scratches head* Not sure what I'm doing wrong.22:37
dimsjdandrea still on my queue :(22:38
jdandreadims: No worries. I thought maybe it was a fluke and wanted to check in.22:38
jdandreaBut 2.6 is gone, I see. :)22:38
harlowjafhermeni soo next step on that spec imho is to continue flushing out the details, getting others interested (awareness and all that)22:38
harlowjaimho it requires more details on lots of aspects22:39
jdandreadims: I'm frying other fish as well. I'll circle the airport for a bit!22:39
jdandreaAppreciate the queue stuffs.22:39
harlowjafhermeni and then we need to strategize on the 'how to make it real/happen' question22:39
harlowjafhermeni if u want to flush out ideas for the build-plan kind of thing mentioned there that'd be cool22:39
harlowja(the yaml thing)22:40
fhermeniharlowja: I can try that but I only have a limited knowledge around openstack concepts and concerns so it might be a bit wonky22:40
harlowjathats fine22:41
harlowjawe can work through those22:41
harlowjawe have enough people who know around here (and/or other channels)22:41
fhermeniharlowja: but ok for that. I will provide sth during the week. let's focus on sth. simple and consistent first22:41
harlowjaagreed22:41
harlowjaand see if u run into any gerrit issues and all22:42
fhermenik22:42
harlowjaand let's go from there :)22:42
harlowjaand see where this ends up (who knows!)22:42
fhermeniharlowja: ok then. I will start from your use case for the moment22:43
harlowjaokie dokie22:43
fhermeni++ then. Time to get some sleep22:44
*** fhermeni has quit IRC22:45
harlowja:)22:46
openstackgerritMerged openstack-dev/pbr: Fix docs for markers  https://review.openstack.org/24043722:47
*** regXboi has quit IRC22:47
SpamapSharlowja: super scheduling?!22:48
harlowjasupppper22:49
harlowjaultra super (better name welcomed, ha)22:49
harlowjai just make up this crap somtimes, lol22:49
SpamapSharlowja: Ugh. I think that is counter to everything I believe in cloud.22:49
harlowjahow so22:50
SpamapSharlowja: same reason we don't respect source routing on packets on the internet.22:50
SpamapSharlowja: It simply does not scale.22:50
SpamapSas nice as it would be to have an all thinking all being single thing on the internet that has all the cat pictures..22:51
harlowjaso it doesn't have to be the global optimum, how about just cross-project smarter scheduling..22:51
*** sputnik1_ has joined #openstack-oslo22:51
SpamapSit would be so much more efficient than all of the competing cat pic sites..22:51
SpamapSbut there are simply too many cat pics22:51
SpamapSnope22:51
*** ViswaV_ has joined #openstack-oslo22:51
SpamapSI don't believe cross project smart scheduling is a good idea.22:51
harlowjahow about remove smart22:52
harlowjalol22:52
harlowjasorta-dumb scheduling?22:52
SpamapSI do believe separation of concerns, simplified resource allocations, and substrate homogenization, are what will scale.22:52
*** ViswaV has quit IRC22:52
*** dmitryme has quit IRC22:52
*** toabctl has quit IRC22:52
harlowjaso then the human issuing API commands must do the smart part?22:53
harlowjafor the times/places where substrate homogenization isn't there yet (maybe someday)22:53
*** jecarey_ has joined #openstack-oslo22:53
SpamapSharlowja: smart scheduling won't work out for the same reason PaaS just doesn't seem to ever grow as fast as we think it will. If it fits in the PaaS box, great. But most things don't. Likewise, if you fit in the smart scheduler's box, great. But most things won't.22:53
*** jecarey has quit IRC22:53
*** lxsli has quit IRC22:53
*** pleia2 has quit IRC22:54
*** mordred has quit IRC22:54
*** ativelkov has quit IRC22:54
*** sputnik13 has quit IRC22:54
*** sheeprine has quit IRC22:54
SpamapSYes, the humans need to architect their apps to the reality of the clouds, and the clouds need to respond when those things aren't cost effective.22:54
*** peterstac has quit IRC22:54
*** therve has quit IRC22:54
*** alaski has quit IRC22:54
SpamapS(the humans running the clouds need to respond, I should say)22:55
SpamapSharlowja: this is fine for small clouds.22:55
*** pleia2 has joined #openstack-oslo22:56
harlowjawelll i wonder about larger cloud to, i've heard of requests for something like that yaml defined in that review22:56
SpamapSharlowja: but the less homogenous the workload, the more complex high level scheduling will have to be.22:56
harlowjaright22:56
harlowjaagreed22:56
* harlowja isn't saying its an easy problem to solve22:56
SpamapSI'd rather see something like that as a higher level price-reactive cloud-(ab)user hosted thing.22:57
harlowjainteresting idea22:57
harlowjabrb, will think on this22:57
harlowjai see your points though22:57
harlowjapoints/concerns22:58
SpamapSLet the clouds/regions/az's advertise their costs, and let an outside-the-cloud app decide the most cost effective way to deploy.22:58
*** sheeprine has joined #openstack-oslo22:59
*** alaski has joined #openstack-oslo22:59
*** toabctl has joined #openstack-oslo22:59
*** jecarey_ has quit IRC22:59
*** peterstac has joined #openstack-oslo22:59
*** therve has joined #openstack-oslo22:59
*** sc68cal_ has joined #openstack-oslo22:59
*** dmitryme has joined #openstack-oslo23:00
*** mriedem is now known as mriedem_away23:01
*** ativelkov has joined #openstack-oslo23:02
*** beekneemech has joined #openstack-oslo23:05
*** edmondsw has quit IRC23:06
*** pradk has quit IRC23:06
*** sdague has quit IRC23:06
*** pkholkin has quit IRC23:06
*** bnemec has quit IRC23:06
*** sc68cal has quit IRC23:06
*** lifeless has quit IRC23:06
*** cprmrf has quit IRC23:07
*** sdague has joined #openstack-oslo23:07
*** mordred has joined #openstack-oslo23:07
*** lxsli has joined #openstack-oslo23:08
*** lifeless has joined #openstack-oslo23:09
*** alejandrito has quit IRC23:11
*** edmondsw has joined #openstack-oslo23:13
*** pkholkin has joined #openstack-oslo23:13
*** mixos has joined #openstack-oslo23:14
*** jecarey has joined #openstack-oslo23:14
*** jecarey has quit IRC23:19
openstackgerritMerged openstack/taskflow: Add a executor backed conductor and have existing impl. use it  https://review.openstack.org/17464323:24
*** gordc has quit IRC23:33
harlowjaSpamapS ya, i get that point of view23:36
harlowjawill think about how to incorporate it into this idea23:36
harlowja(if it can be)23:36
*** jamielennox|away is now known as jamielennox23:37
SpamapSharlowja: think BGP23:37
harlowjaSpamapS right, along the lines, of u provide your 'profile' let the shortest (cheapest) path win?23:39
harlowjasomething like that analogy?23:39
harlowjalol23:39
SpamapSharlowja: right, but the point is that there's no omnicient router23:40
harlowjanot a single one at least23:40
SpamapSright23:40
harlowjabut u also don't have hundreds of hubs that can't intelligently do much :-P23:40
harlowja(which is sorta like projects in openstack), lol23:40
harlowjathere is a squishy middle area (just intelligent enough) somewhere in there23:41
*** ekarlso has quit IRC23:41
harlowja(that i hope isn't people but computers/algorithms)23:43
harlowjadamn humans23:43
harlowjalol23:43
*** dimtruck is now known as zz_dimtruck23:43
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Avoid recreating notify details for each dispatch iteration  https://review.openstack.org/23954723:45
*** ekarlso has joined #openstack-oslo23:47
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.middleware: Remove oslo namespace package  https://review.openstack.org/24325523:50
*** ekarlso has quit IRC23:57
*** ekarlso has joined #openstack-oslo23:57

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.14.0 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!