Monday, 2015-02-02

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openstackgerritMin Pae proposed openstack/taskflow: Map optional arguments as well as required arguments  https://review.openstack.org/15197201:46
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openstackgerritLi Ma proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Increase rpc_response_timeout  https://review.openstack.org/15197903:13
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openstackgerritqiaojian proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Fix notifications broken with ZMQ driver  https://review.openstack.org/15028604:05
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.vmware: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/15185706:04
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/14325606:12
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Use class constants during pformatting a tree node  https://review.openstack.org/15199606:13
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Use class constants during pformatting a tree node  https://review.openstack.org/15199606:16
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openstackgerritBogdan Dobrelya proposed openstack/oslo.log: Use syslog for logging in an RFC5424 compliant format by default.  https://review.openstack.org/14608209:05
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Refactor the replies waiter code  https://review.openstack.org/14889009:51
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Move each drivers options into its own group  https://review.openstack.org/12003809:57
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Move each drivers options into its own group  https://review.openstack.org/12003809:59
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openstackgerritRoman Podoliaka proposed openstack/oslo.db: Organize provisioning to use testresources  https://review.openstack.org/12087010:21
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openstackgerritLi Ma proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Increase rpc_response_timeout  https://review.openstack.org/15197910:35
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.messaging: Refactor the replies waiter code  https://review.openstack.org/14889010:57
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mrmojeGreetings! Do we have a pbr dev available for a brief chat?12:16
mrmojeabout parsing pip requirements.txt12:17
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack-dev/hacking: Add a check for staticmethod  https://review.openstack.org/15195213:16
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack-dev/hacking: tests: allow to run the same test for different code  https://review.openstack.org/15210813:16
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dims_jd__: can you please bless the requirements review for oslo.messaging and oslo.vmware? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150556/ when you get a chance!13:47
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jd__dimdone14:10
jd__arf :)14:10
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dhellmannjd__: thanks! I've marked the namespace package blueprint as "implemented" now that those are merging14:35
dhellmanndims: ^^14:35
jd__cool14:36
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inc0dhellmann, ping14:44
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dims_jd__: thanks!15:04
dims_dhellmann: thanks15:04
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dhellmanninc0: pong15:11
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denis_makogonsileht, Mehdi, hi there, could you please rebase patch with heartbeats? (it is in merge conflict)15:33
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: RabbitMQ heartbeat implementation  https://review.openstack.org/14604715:34
silehtdenis_makogon, ^^15:34
denis_makogonsileht, you are fast as bolt, thanks!15:34
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo-incubator: Use oslo_utils instead of deprecated oslo.utils  https://review.openstack.org/14742715:35
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denis_makogonsileht, got one question, unfortunately it was lost during rebasing - shouldn't heartbeat rate be configurable too, like you've did with heartbeat timeout?15:38
denis_makogonsince kombu docs are stating about ability of explicit declaring of heartbeat rate, shouldn't we do the same?15:40
silehtdenis_makogon, we could15:40
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.policy: Fix rst markup in docstring  https://review.openstack.org/15216015:40
silehtdenis_makogon, I will push another patch for that later15:41
denis_makogonsileht, so, can you please make it configurable in initial heartbeat implementation?15:41
denis_makogonsileht, thanks15:41
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.policy: Correct docstring references  https://review.openstack.org/15181316:07
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inc0dhellmann, I can see that you've already make launchpad project and so on?16:21
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.policy: Add docstrings for check classes  https://review.openstack.org/15182216:21
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.policy: Remove use of graduated modules  https://review.openstack.org/15182916:21
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dhellmanninc0: yes, I got started on that friday when I had some free time16:29
dhellmanninc0: we're in the oslo meeting right now, but I think we'll be wrapping up early today. #openstack-meeting-alt16:29
inc0did you have a chance to look at code?16:32
dhellmanninc0: I did. Your repo had a bunch of extra files in it that we won't want. It looks like you copied stuff from the incubator instead of the cookiecutter repository?16:33
dhellmanninc0: I made another repo, let me find the link16:34
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dhellmanninc0: https://github.com/dhellmann/oslo.versionedobjects-import16:34
dhellmannI'm missing some files needed by the tests, so I need to run the export again16:34
dhellmannthe script I used for the export is in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/4kwhUk5msi16:34
dhellmannzzzeek: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138215/ has a merge conflict, do you want to rebase it before we review it?16:35
zzzeekdhellmann: sure.   the issue is mbooth is still raising aspects of it which I think can be fixed in subsequent patches16:35
dhellmannzzzeek: I'm not sure we can assume synchronous slaves. Is that what he's suggesting?16:37
inc0hmm, I'll look on this cookiecutter - you might tho take a look at my code as it wasn't noop to pull that stuff out of nova16:37
zzzeekdhellmann: I’m suggesting that if an application explicitly needs to issue a reader that is known to be subsequent to a writer where an asynchronous delay is not acceptable, then reader() should be specified with an additional flag that indicates this.  it should not refer to using slave databases; the backend should be configured such that it knows if slaves are synchronous or not16:38
dhellmanninc0: yeah, the objects stuff is more tightly integrated with other parts of nova than I expected based on dan's comments16:38
zzzeekdhellmann: and from that mbooth seems to have gone off into a longer thread but I don’t konw that this is that complicated16:38
dhellmanninc0: most of what I've found is tests, but there were some network models that had to be deleted16:39
inc0yeah, and some more stuff inside logic16:39
inc0also a bit of strings, docs and so on;)16:39
inc0and few missing methods for it to work for example with heat tests16:39
zzzeekdhellmann: for starters, an app that has a reader subseuqent to a writer can call writer for that call.  this only applies to sibling calls, not nested calls16:39
dhellmanninc0: we want to run something like https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/4kwhUk5msi but with a longer list of files to save; I just don't know what all of those files are yet16:39
dhellmanninc0: and then clean it up, which I've started to do in subsequent patches (similar to what you did)16:40
inc0so I'd advise to use our code along with cookiecutter stuff around16:40
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openstackgerritMichael Bayer proposed openstack/oslo.db: Implement new oslo.db.sqlalchemy.enginefacade module  https://review.openstack.org/13821516:40
dhellmanninc0: the other thing was to use oslo_versionedobjects instead of oslo/versionedobjects -- no more "oslo" namespace package16:40
dhellmanninc0: well, my export ran later and picked up some other changes yours didn't have because it ran earlier, so either way we want a new copy to start with I think16:41
dhellmanninc0: how much of nova's test framework did you have to pull in?16:41
inc0or pull our commits out of my stuff and try to rebase it16:41
inc0well, I've managed to fit it into heat framework16:42
dhellmanninc0: yeah, I don't know how well that will work -- I would prefer to just have a clean export so we can document how we got it16:42
inc0but at the cost of few tests we might want to rewrite16:42
dhellmannso you put some of heat's test framework into your version of the export?16:42
inc0well, I've managed to remove most of project specific test infra16:43
dhellmannok, I'll look more closely at the changes you made in your repository to see what you did16:44
inc0it wasn't that hard as they actually used standard libs16:44
dhellmannmaybe I need less than it seems16:44
inc0but at the cost of few tests I was going to look at later16:44
inc0cinder guys did an implementation on their own by the way16:45
dhellmannyeah, I'm aware that there are 4 teams who decided to do this instead of just helping create the lib. I'm not amused.16:46
inc0hehe I asked before I've did anything;)16:46
dhellmannyep, and I appreciate the help you've given so far :-)16:47
dhellmanninc0: in https://github.com/inc0/oslo.versionedobject/commit/90cb72fabe63546e213dcd0c0a57e5d0964130bd where did versionedobject/test.py come from?16:47
dhellmannis that nova/test.py?16:48
inc0yup16:48
dhellmannok, that's what I thought16:49
inc0after a fashion- imports16:49
dhellmannthat's an example of a file where we want the whole history included in the new repository16:49
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dhellmanninc0: same question for versionedobjects/tests/fixture.py16:50
dhellmann*fixtures16:50
inc0go on16:50
inc0ah, sorry16:51
inc0allright, got it16:51
inc0so, move whole thing to oslo.cookiecutter, fix history of missing files16:51
dhellmannI'm going to run another export today I think, with some of these extra files and see how that goes16:51
dhellmannonce I'm confident we have a good file list, I want to update the spec again with whatever is missing, and then I think we'll be ready to proceed with the import16:52
dhellmannI should be able to use your repo to figure out what I'm missing in my export script16:52
inc0ok, could you please drop me an email if you manage to do it? I can push this topic tomorrow eu time16:53
dhellmanninc0: sure16:53
inc0I'd really like to have it well developed before kilo-3 so I'll have a chance to implement it in heat as well...I think this might be important to have at least one implementation of it in kilo16:54
inc0most of other projects really don't want to be the firsts;)16:55
dhellmannthat would be good, but I don't want to rush the export work and lose history16:55
dhellmannwe have time, so I don't think that will be a problem16:55
inc0yeah, I agree16:55
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harlowja_at_homecrap woke up to late and missed the meeting :-/17:01
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dhellmannharlowja_at_home: there was a question for you about oslo.serialization and whether anyone is waiting impatiently on the changes you made there (and so we should do a release)17:03
dhellmannharlowja_at_home: we decided to wait to cut releases until next week, since we have a milestone in a couple of days17:04
harlowja_at_homei don't think anyone waiting17:04
harlowja_at_homeperhaps medhi if he wants https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151300/ i guess17:04
harlowja_at_home* sileht i mean17:04
inc0going off, cya guys17:05
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: allow to configure heartbeat rate  https://review.openstack.org/15220117:30
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack/oslo.config: Log a warning when deprecated opts are used  https://review.openstack.org/14802017:31
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: allow to configure heartbeat rate  https://review.openstack.org/15220117:36
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslosphinx: Add missing simplejson requirement  https://review.openstack.org/15221417:59
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-dev/oslo-cookiecutter: Use correct package name for incubator sync  https://review.openstack.org/15222018:16
harlowjaok backs, damn wiki connection at work not stable and keeping me on irc here (and i don't want to setup a bouncer, lol)18:18
openstackgerritMerged openstack-dev/oslo-cookiecutter: Do not sync run_cross_test.sh  https://review.openstack.org/15178418:19
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo-specs: More missing files for versionedobjects  https://review.openstack.org/15222218:21
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harlowjadhellmann would it be possible to let in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117844/ (just emits depreciation warnings) ;)18:26
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harlowjarelease the kraken lol18:31
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.messaging: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/14325618:38
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo-specs: More missing files for versionedobjects  https://review.openstack.org/15222218:42
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.vmware: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/15185718:42
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harlowjashould i get out a release of https://github.com/openstack/debtcollector (lets call it 0.1)?19:01
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harlowjaseem fair to folks?19:01
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: Link hacking guidelines into dev docs  https://review.openstack.org/15223819:15
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dhellmannharlowja: 0.1 would be good -- are you happy that the API is locked down? are the docs being published?19:16
dhellmannharlowja: I see docs, but no link on http://docs.openstack.org/developer/19:16
harlowjadhellmann let me check; api is ok for that, docs not sure, lol19:16
harlowjahmmm, how does link get there?19:17
dhellmannharlowja: and there are no real API docs, yet19:17
harlowjaya, i'll generate/include them19:17
dhellmannharlowja: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/CreatingANewLibrary19:17
dhellmannharlowja: it would be good to take the checklist there and make sure all of those items are done (some won't apply)19:18
harlowjakk19:18
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harlowjawill do19:18
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dhellmannharlowja: thanks!19:19
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dhellmannharlowja: hint, that checklist is meant to be pasted into a blueprint's "work items" list19:20
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dhellmannwe'll probably have a script to create those work items when we move over to storyboard19:21
harlowjawoot19:21
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/debtcollector: Fix up the docs into reasonable shape  https://review.openstack.org/15225119:48
harlowjaok dokie, that should look better19:49
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/debtcollector: Fix up the docs into reasonable shape  https://review.openstack.org/15225119:51
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harlowjaok, thats even better :-P19:53
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dhellmannharlowja: it's a shame to have that readme title formatted differently than all of the other projects :-/20:04
harlowjahmmm, durn, but it looked nice, lol20:05
harlowjaok, i'll tweak it :-p20:05
dhellmannyeah20:05
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dhellmannharlowja: also for consistency, it would be good to move the api stuff to an api.rst -- we should probably drop the usage.rst from the cookiecutter template20:07
harlowjakk20:07
dhellmannotherwise, this looks good20:07
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/debtcollector: Fix up the docs into reasonable shape  https://review.openstack.org/15225120:09
harlowjaok, that looks even better20:09
harlowjalol20:09
harlowja*imho20:10
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dhellmannharlowja: I learned recently that you can have a static copyright date as the earliest date, and it still applies to new changes. I should make a note to go through and update all of our doc builds at once.20:27
harlowjaah20:28
harlowjagood to know, i think most of the projects did that dynamic thingy20:28
harlowjaor some of them at least, lol20:28
harlowjaprojects/libraries20:28
dhellmannyeah, I may have started that trend :-/20:28
dhellmannit's not worth changing here, just not necessary20:28
harlowjakk20:28
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openstackgerritRodrigo Duarte proposed openstack/oslo.policy: Drop usage of namespaced packages  https://review.openstack.org/15183620:52
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Add a capturing listener (for test or other usage)  https://review.openstack.org/15227120:54
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harlowjaok, http://docs-draft.openstack.org/51/152251/3/check/gate-debtcollector-docs/5f25dd6//doc/build/html/ is what those look like21:53
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/debtcollector: Upper case python  https://review.openstack.org/15229121:54
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harlowjaman that repo name 'oslo_versionedobjects' :-/22:03
harlowjaeck22:03
harlowjacouldn't we make something neater :-P22:03
harlowjarepo/library name22:03
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dhellmannharlowja: did I use _ instead of . there? trying to be consistent.22:14
harlowjanah its probably fine, it'd just be nice with a shorter nice name, haha22:15
dhellmannyeah, that's what we agreed on in the spec but it's sort long22:16
harlowjaya :-/22:16
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bnemecoslo.objects?22:20
bknudsonquick question -- is there any point to having a shared location for the oslo namespace hacking check? dims ?22:20
bnemecsays the guy whose team just pushed a lib named "hardware" to pypi. :-/22:20
dimsLOL22:20
dimsbknudson: when L begins, i want to propose a new rule in hacking22:21
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dhellmannbnemec: we thought that was too generic (at least I did)22:31
dhellmannwow, "hardware"22:32
bnemecdhellmann: Yeah, I was mostly joking. ;-)22:32
bknudsondims: eventually the oslo.* goes away... that's going to be more effective than a hacking check.22:38
dhellmannbknudson, dims : yeah, I'd like to drop the namespace in L, which is why I wasn't worried about a hacking check22:38
bknudsondhellmann: We've got hacking check in keystone, keystoneclient, keystonemiddleware, etc., so reviewers are asking if it should be in a common place...22:40
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bknudsonchanges in hacking are not easy to get out there, so I don't think it's worth it.22:40
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dhellmannbknudson: can we add it to hacking but make it optional?22:44
bknudsondhellmann: I'm not that familiar with hacking, but everything is optional, right? it's just disabled in tox.ini.22:45
openstackgerritIan Cordasco proposed openstack/oslo.policy: Drop usage of namespaced packages  https://review.openstack.org/15183622:48
ihrachyshka+ for common hacking rule.22:49
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dhellmannbknudson: I mean can we have teams have to enable it explicitly, so it's disabled by default -- I don't know if we can do that or not22:51
bknudsondhellmann: we have to opt-in to any hacking release... e.g., when 0.10 came out we all had to explicitly add it to test-requirements.txt.22:52
bknudsonthen if there's any rules that we don't want to support at that point also add it to excludes in tox.ini22:52
bknudsonit actually takes a long time to get a hacking update around... releases don't seem to happen often.22:53
dhellmannyeah, jogo mainly does releases around cycles, but if there is really a lot of interest we could probably do this sooner22:54
jogobknudson: yeah hacking releases aren't pushed out22:55
jogobknudson: the idea is to not add rules too often as it can be distracting22:55
jogobknudson: new releases for optional rules  can happen more often etc. though22:56
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dhellmannjogo: yeah, apparently there's a lot of interest in a hacking rule about the oslo import changes22:56
jogodhellmann: the use oslo_ vs oslo. ?22:57
jogodhellmann bknudson: once https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134052/ lands we can have off by default options22:58
jogothen we can release a 0.10.x patch with a new optional rule22:58
jogobecause that won't break people who are capping at 0.1122:58
jogodhellmann: since I have your attention, any ideas what went wrong here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151831/22:59
jogothis worked this mornign22:59
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bknudsonjogo: we were wondering if hacking supported it... I've only seen ignores.22:59
jogoerr on Jan 30 7:22 PM22:59
jogobknudson: that patch adds support for off by default -- well I think its blocked on sigmavirus2423:00
bknudsonexcept ignore is in [flake8]23:00
sigmavirus24huh?23:00
jogosigmavirus24: status of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151831/23:00
sigmavirus24https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134052/ shouldn't be blocked. I believe Flake8 released a version supporting that already, or did I have to to something with that change?23:01
sigmavirus24Ah I think I forgot to add it to the changelog23:02
dhellmannjogo: yeah23:02
dhellmannjogo: looking at the review23:02
jogosigmavirus24: heh, changelogs23:02
sigmavirus24sorry about that23:02
jogosigmavirus24: cool, I have been heads down on a few other things but looks like we need to rev the flake8 pin and can start using that23:03
sigmavirus242.3.0 is your friend. Also do we ever use -q?23:03
sigmavirus24I need to prioritize fixing that (thanks --jobs)23:03
jogodhellmann: thanks, as nothing in the logs stand out there and not sure why this patch broke things23:03
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jogo'-q' ?23:03
dhellmannjogo: something wants a newer oslo.serialization than is installed23:04
jogodhellmann: ahh its not me :) http://logs.openstack.org/48/152248/2/check/check-grenade-dsvm/3dfe243/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz23:05
jogounrelated stable patch23:05
jogoso Juno grenade is wedged23:05
dhellmannjoy23:05
jogodhellmann: is there an easy way to list the most recent oslo relases ?23:05
dhellmannjogo: that's a great question. I don't think I've ever wanted to know that before23:06
dhellmannwe have some tools in the incubator that should work to figure it out23:07
jogodhellmann: that would be super useful23:07
jogoI used to be able to just look at our pip mirror and check timestamps23:07
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jogoohh taskflow23:09
jogoyup thats it23:10
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jogoharlowja: you broke stable/juno23:12
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: script to list the latest release of each library  https://review.openstack.org/15233223:12
dhellmannjogo: ^^23:12
dhellmannjogo: can we pin taskflow in stable?23:13
jogodhellmann: doing that now23:13
dhellmannyeah23:13
dhellmannhow's that patch to pin everything coming along? :-)23:13
jogoblocked by taskflow ;)23:13
dhellmann:-)23:14
dhellmannjogo: that script I wrote assumes you have everything checked out using tools/clone_openstack.sh, which might not be the case23:15
dhellmannjogo: http://paste.openstack.org/show/165818/23:15
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dhellmannjogo: well, my taskflow repo was out of date so the version there is wrong23:16
jogodhellmann: it would be neat of you can publish the list somewhere23:16
dhellmannjogo: see the pastebin link23:16
jogocan you turn that into a timeline of releases23:17
jogoso pbr 0.10.7 1-1-201523:17
jogocliff 12-12-201523:17
jogoetc23:17
jogosorted by time23:17
dhellmannah, interesting23:17
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* dhellmann tinkers23:18
jogodhellmann: https://github.com/jogo/mustached-bear23:18
jogowoops23:18
jogohttps://review.openstack.org/15233323:18
jogois the fix23:18
jogoto cap23:18
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dhellmannjogo: I only have +1 on stable branches in requirements23:18
jogodhellmann: :/ guess I have to look for adam_g23:20
jogodhellmann: mustached-bear is my git repo updating tool23:20
jogowas sorta related to keeping taskflow up to date23:20
dhellmannjogo: take a look at that clone_openstack.sh script in oslo-incubator23:21
jogodhellmann: I did a while back, I think you will see mine is more robust23:21
jogoand has a few fun features23:22
dhellmannI'll check it out23:22
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jogobut its just fun script I wrote23:22
jogonot trying to get you to use it23:22
dhellmannyeah, I'm interested in ideas23:22
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: script to list the latest release of each library  https://review.openstack.org/15233223:27
dhellmannjogo: ^^23:27
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: script to list the latest release of each library  https://review.openstack.org/15233223:29
jogodhellmann: nice, you have a pastebin of the output23:29
dhellmannjogo: http://paste.openstack.org/show/165827/23:29
jogodhellmann: sort is wrong23:30
jogoits not time based23:30
dhellmann?23:30
harlowjahmmm, broke something23:30
jogooh wait, I no it is right23:31
jogojust thought newest would be at the top23:31
dhellmannoh, I can make it do that23:31
jogois it possible to somehow publish this to docs.o.o ?23:31
harlowjaah, hmmm, oslo.serialization>=1.2.0 so i guess pinning stable/juno?23:31
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: script to list the latest release of each library  https://review.openstack.org/15233223:31
jogounder oslo-incubator23:32
dhellmannhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/165829/23:32
jogobecause that would be awesome23:32
dhellmannharlowja: yeah, jogo has a patch up to change the stable/juno requirements23:32
harlowjajogo thx for doing that, was just in meeting23:32
jogodhellmann: ahh thats better23:32
dhellmannjogo: we could probably make a page that would do it23:32
jogodhellmann: awesome, this will be very useful23:32
dhellmannthe trick would be triggering that job to rebuild on every release23:33
jogodhellmann: shouldn't be too hard23:33
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harlowjadamn pip dependency resolver, arg, lol23:33
jogoharlowja: right :)23:33
* harlowja needs to get back to fixing my new resolver (that still sorta sucks, haha)23:33
jogoharlowja: did you see my thoughts on pippin?23:33
* harlowja haven't yet23:33
jogoyou should talk to some of the python folks about it btw23:33
jogothey have may have ideas23:34
jogodstufft etc23:34
harlowjaya23:34
harlowjaagreed23:34
dhellmannjogo: I need to head out for the night23:34
harlowjathe pip-tools 'future' branch has some stuff i could use23:34
harlowjabut ya, jogo there needs to be some solution :-P23:34
harlowja*even a slow solution imho is better than none23:34
jogoyup23:34
jogodhellmann: thanks o?23:34
jogoo/ *23:34
dhellmannjogo: np23:35
jogoharlowja: so in short, pippin or something like it is needed for pinning everything and installing with --no-deps23:37
harlowjajogo ya23:38
jogoharlowja: and if you want to attack that problem that would be great23:39
jogoI wrote down some of the issues / steps that i can think of23:39
harlowjahehe, working on it a little :-P23:39
harlowjahttps://github.com/nvie/pip-tools/tree/future is where some good stuff is though23:39
jogoharlowja: cool23:40
harlowjai need some of that code to make pippin better, lol23:40
jogoanyway time for a run before it gets cold here in the city23:40
harlowjaespecially https://github.com/nvie/pip-tools/blob/future/piptools/datastructures.py#L9723:40
harlowjakk23:40
harlowjapippin not perfect though, if i had that code (its not released) i think it would be better, ha23:40
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harlowjarecursive backtracking happens to much23:41
harlowja...23:41
harlowjaand i'd like that code right there which can merge specs together23:41
harlowjabut i'll mess around with this some more and see where it goes, jogo any think u want to do is cool to ;)23:42
jogoharlowja: hoping pinning the first level deps will be easier and a decent interim solution23:42
harlowjaya, its a start23:42
jogoif we pinned things you wouldn't have broken juno today :)23:42
harlowjai blame the requirements bot23:43
harlowjalol23:43
jogome too23:43
harlowjadamn u bot!23:43
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harlowjaanyways, thx for the tweak/pin23:44
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