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| abhishek___ | hi all, can any one please review this oslo-spec, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106285/ | 08:04 |
| abhishek___ | thank you | 08:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/oslo-incubator: cfgfilter has graduated, remove it https://review.openstack.org/106278 | 10:05 |
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| dhellmann | dims__: do you think oslo.utils is likely to have a release before j-2 next thurs, or should I move the blueprint to j-3? | 12:00 |
| dhellmann | harlowja_away: can you make sure all of your blueprints have links to the relevant patches? I think you've started a lot more of the work than it appears from the tracking pages. | 12:02 |
| dims__ | dhellmann, if we can do one round of reviews of existing reviews, we'll know better. i think we have covered all items needed for a release already | 12:02 |
| dhellmann | dims__: cool, could you make sure all of the patches needed are linked from the bp? | 12:02 |
| dims__ | ah will do | 12:02 |
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| dims__ | dhellmann, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/graduate-oslo-utils is up-to-date. i've added links in the commit messages to the BP as well | 12:14 |
| dims__ | brb | 12:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yuriy Taraday proposed a change to openstack/oslo.rootwrap: Add an option to run rootwrap as a daemon https://review.openstack.org/81798 | 12:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Nejc Saje proposed a change to openstack/oslo.messaging: Fixes incorrect exchange lock in fake driver https://review.openstack.org/106993 | 12:21 |
| dhellmann | dims__: thanks! | 12:23 |
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| dhellmann | markmc: the oslo.messaging blueprints that were listed for j-2 appear to be gone from launchpad :-/ there were only a couple, but I didn't keep a separate list of their names, do you know them? | 12:27 |
| markmc | dhellmann, huh, weird | 12:28 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 12:28 |
| markmc | I'm not sure there were any? | 12:28 |
| dhellmann | there were 1-2, I thought | 12:29 |
| markmc | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/juno | 12:29 |
| dhellmann | maybe that was j1, though | 12:29 |
| dhellmann | I really thought there was at least 1 | 12:29 |
| markmc | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/+spec/notification-dispatcher-filter would have been plausible, but it has stalled | 12:30 |
| markmc | sileht, ^^^ | 12:30 |
| dhellmann | I wonder if that's it. If the auto-cleaner took them out of the milestone because they weren't approved | 12:30 |
| dhellmann | markmc: while I have you, is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/oslo-config-cfgfilter done or are there reviews to finish? not much linked from the bp itself. | 12:32 |
| markmc | dhellmann, hmm, auto-linking must not have worked ... one sec | 12:33 |
| dhellmann | markmc: and I don't see any open reviews | 12:33 |
| markmc | dhellmann, bah, went looking at the wrong one ... sorry | 12:39 |
| markmc | dhellmann, added a bunch of stuff to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/oslo-config-generator | 12:39 |
| * markmc looks at cfgfilter now | 12:39 | |
| dhellmann | markmc: the reviews only matter if they're still open, unless you just want to be complete | 12:40 |
| markmc | dhellmann, I know, I didn't look at the blueprint you linked before digging up links :) | 12:40 |
| dhellmann | markmc: ah, ok :-) | 12:40 |
| dhellmann | I thought you were digging up closed reviews for both | 12:40 |
| markmc | ok, done now | 12:41 |
| dhellmann | markmc: thanks! | 12:42 |
| markmc | np :) | 12:42 |
| dhellmann | time for breakfast... | 12:42 |
| markmc | dhellmann, take a glance at the links at the bottom of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/oslo-config-generator | 12:42 |
| markmc | if you've got a second | 12:42 |
| markmc | generator related stuff I hacked up for nova | 12:43 |
| markmc | might make sense in oslo.config | 12:43 |
| markmc | still WIP | 12:43 |
| dhellmann | as part of the discovery logic for the sample generator? | 12:43 |
| markmc | one part for making it easier to implement list_opts() discovery method | 12:44 |
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| markmc | another part to allow testing the generator and option listing | 12:44 |
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| dhellmann | the testing sounds useful; I'm on the fence about the discovery, although I see the usefulness | 12:45 |
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| Alexei_987 | markmc: Hi are you available? | 12:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexei Kornienko proposed a change to openstack/oslo.messaging: Moved main loop to server class https://review.openstack.org/107038 | 12:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Oleksii Chuprykov proposed a change to openstack/oslo.db: Enable skipped tests from test_models.py https://review.openstack.org/94361 | 14:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/oslo.messaging: Fixes incorrect exchange lock in fake driver https://review.openstack.org/106993 | 14:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Oleksii Chuprykov proposed a change to openstack/oslo.db: Move all db exception to exception.py https://review.openstack.org/106782 | 14:22 |
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| abhishek_k_ | dhellmann: hi, you around?? | 14:30 |
| dhellmann | abhishek_k_: what's up? | 14:31 |
| abhishek_k_ | hi, could you please have look at this oslo-spec, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106285/ | 14:31 |
| abhishek_k_ | dhellmann: thank you | 14:32 |
| dhellmann | abhishek_k_: I'll put it on my review list | 14:33 |
| jogo | dhellmann: I have a question too | 14:33 |
| jogo | dhellmann: re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94001/ Ability to customize default_log_levels for each project | 14:33 |
| abhishek_k_ | dhellmann:thank you | 14:34 |
| jogo | I want to use it in nova. what is the recommended place to call set_defaults | 14:34 |
| dhellmann | jogo: usually before you parse the options | 14:34 |
| dhellmann | jogo: but I think it works ok if you at least call it before the options are used (so before you configure logging) | 14:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Cammann proposed a change to openstack/oslo.config: Check config default value is correct type https://review.openstack.org/105450 | 14:35 |
| jogo | dhellmann: ah I think I see where to do it then, thanks. | 14:36 |
| markmc | dhellmann, it'd be in nova.config.parse_args() - there are some other similar set_defaults() calls there | 14:38 |
| dhellmann | jogo: ^^ | 14:38 |
| dhellmann | markmc: thanks | 14:38 |
| markmc | bah, sorry - wrong nick | 14:38 |
| dhellmann | markmc: np | 14:38 |
| jogo | markmc: right, thats where I am looking | 14:38 |
| jogo | although I don't want to be forced to set ogging_context_format_string | 14:39 |
| dhellmann | jogo: we should update set_defaults to allow that to be None to ignore changing the default | 14:42 |
| jogo | dhellmann: I'll push a patch up shortly | 14:43 |
| dhellmann | jogo: ok, ping me here when you do, I'm doing reviews today | 14:43 |
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| jogo | dhellmann: hmm there is a test to set the default contexty format string to none | 14:59 |
| jogo | so that is a valid use case? | 15:00 |
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| dhellmann | jogo: I can't imagine why that would be useful | 15:04 |
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| dhellmann | jogo: unless setting it to none disables something in the context formatter | 15:04 |
| jogo | yeah, I will make sure to keep supporting that use case | 15:04 |
| jogo | just to be safe | 15:04 |
| dhellmann | jogo: it looks like if that string is None we might see exceptions trying to log | 15:05 |
| dhellmann | dims: do you know about setting logging_context_format_string to None? ^^ | 15:06 |
| zhiyan | viktors: hi | 15:10 |
| viktors | zhiyan: hello! | 15:10 |
| zhiyan | i'm re-view https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106818/3/glance/db/sqlalchemy/api.py , can you tell me why we need a lock there? | 15:11 |
| zhiyan | viktors: ^ | 15:11 |
| jogo | dhellmann: looks like dims added it, so yeah. will push a patch up that will break that shortly | 15:12 |
| viktors | zhiyan: this prevents us for race condition - consider the case when we are trying to call a _create_facade_lazily() method when the facade hasn't been initialized yet 2 times simultaneously - 2 facade instances will be created in this case. | 15:13 |
| viktors | zhiyan: but it should probably be harmless :) | 15:14 |
| zhiyan | viktors: thanks | 15:14 |
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| zhiyan | viktors: i see, the common purpose is straightforward | 15:15 |
| zhiyan | viktors: i'm just thinking if it can be really triggered, but yes | 15:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Make logging_context_format_string optional in log.set_defaults https://review.openstack.org/107082 | 15:16 |
| jogo | dhellmann: ^. and its 5pm here in Germany so o/ | 15:16 |
| jogo | not sure if the assumption about breaking things is correct yet though | 15:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Yuriy Taraday proposed a change to openstack/oslo.rootwrap: Add an option to run rootwrap as a daemon https://review.openstack.org/81798 | 15:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Yuriy Taraday proposed a change to openstack/oslo.rootwrap: Refactor common parts from cmd to wrapper https://review.openstack.org/107083 | 15:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Yuriy Taraday proposed a change to openstack/oslo.rootwrap: Add basic benchmark https://review.openstack.org/107084 | 15:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Yuriy Taraday proposed a change to openstack/oslo.rootwrap: Add daemon mode to benchmark https://review.openstack.org/107085 | 15:16 |
| dhellmann | jogo: added to my review list; enjoy your evening :-) | 15:17 |
| viktors | zhiyan: yes, I agree, that it's maybe paranoia at most :) | 15:17 |
| viktors | zhiyan: by the way, as for that patch - it there any tool in Glance to update config sample? | 15:18 |
| zhiyan | viktors: and if we want to make it really work, we need a double-checked locking mechanism | 15:18 |
| zhiyan | imho | 15:18 |
| zhiyan | viktors: i have one change there, under review, will be merged soon | 15:19 |
| zhiyan | viktors: and by then, yes, we need to get db configs from olso.db directly instead of glance codebase. i will do that. | 15:20 |
| viktors | zhiyan: I'm not sure, that it's necessary to use double-checked locking mechanism, but feel free to comment patch :) | 15:21 |
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| viktors | zhiyan: as for configs - I looked fro something like ``generate-config.sh`` toll, but got no success | 15:22 |
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| zhiyan | viktors: ify, for sh way: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/83327/ , but i prefer to use new style (and support separated config files) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/83327/ | 15:23 |
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| zhiyan | oh, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104476/ | 15:25 |
| viktors | zhiyan: the first approach looks more familiar to me =) | 15:31 |
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| zhiyan | viktors|afk: just commented MP #106818 | 16:00 |
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| dims__ | dhellmann, the suggestion in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106531/12/nova/api/openstack/__init__.py,unified breaks tests. Can you please help with it? | 16:47 |
| dims__ | i've marked it as WIP till we figure this out | 16:48 |
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| dhellmann | dims__: sure, let me set up that branch and see what fails | 16:55 |
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| dims__ | thanks dhellmann!! | 17:03 |
| dhellmann | dims__: having some trouble with dependencies, I think my dev box is borked, so it may take a little while | 17:04 |
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| dhellmann | bnemec: where's the oslo.serialization repo on github? | 17:39 |
| * bnemec facepalms | 17:40 | |
| bnemec | dhellmann: https://github.com/cybertron/oslo.serialization | 17:40 |
| bnemec | I'll reply to that e-mail with the link. | 17:41 |
| dhellmann | bnemec: yeah, the guy with bnemec on github didn't really look like you :-) | 17:47 |
| bnemec | Ooh, that reminds me. I need to go request that freenode give me my nick. | 17:48 |
| bnemec | The guy who owns it now hasn't used it in well over a year. | 17:48 |
| dhellmann | bnemec: LGTM, with one comment for a change to test-requirements.txt later (I don't know if github emails you those or not, so I linked it in a reply on the ML) | 17:54 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: Hmm, I wonder why I thought that was necessary. I know I had an error at one point about mock not being found. I'll add a note to the bp to fix that later. | 17:58 |
| dhellmann | bnemec: yeah, it's not a big deal | 18:05 |
| harlowja | dhellmann what tracking page are u referring to (for linking patches -> blueprints), is it something else than https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo? | 18:08 |
| harlowja | ^ in reference to a previous message btw | 18:08 |
| dhellmann | harlowja: normally an automated thingy updates each individual blueprint with the relevant changes, but that only works if the bp is mentioned in the commit message or the gerrit topic (and possibly only on the first version of a patch) | 18:09 |
| dhellmann | harlowja: it would help me help you keep track of when a bp is done if all of the reviews were linked in the whiteboard, so I could look at them and know when they've all merged (or in the case of a new bp, when the work has started vs. not) | 18:10 |
| harlowja | sure, some of the current reviews i've got going are likely not connected, although i suppose i should connect some of them to something (minus the ones that are mainly just small changes, cleanup) | 18:11 |
| harlowja | retargeting some of the commit messages with blueprints (for ones i can find) | 18:15 |
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| dhellmann | harlowja: ok, this is mostly cleanup so don't add artificial relationships. if any bps have code in flight, make sure there's a link, otherwise it's fine | 18:33 |
| harlowja | dhellmann will do :) | 18:33 |
| dhellmann | harlowja: thanks | 18:34 |
| harlowja | np | 18:34 |
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| tmcpeak | jogo: got time for a hacking question? | 19:38 |
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| dhellmann | dims__: I get some test failures for libvirt tests, but those fail on master, too, so I think that's just my box being broken. Do you have a log of the failed tests from the i18n changes? | 19:55 |
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| dims__ | dhellmann, let me recreate it, can you paste me the __init__.py that you would like me to try? | 20:00 |
| dhellmann | dims__: oh, wait, I ran the tests with your code but not mine, let me update the code as suggested and see what happens | 20:02 |
| dhellmann | dims__: sorry, long day :-/ | 20:02 |
| dims__ | :) np | 20:02 |
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| dims__ | dhellmann, shall i just add "_" to all methods except try_import? (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106778/9/oslo/utils/importutils.py,unified) | 20:13 |
| tmcpeak | anybody here involved with the hacking project? | 20:14 |
| tmcpeak | I may have found a bug | 20:14 |
| dims__ | tmcpeak, what do you see? | 20:14 |
| tmcpeak | dims_: I run a test using "physical_line" | 20:15 |
| tmcpeak | and then when I run yield(0, message) | 20:15 |
| tmcpeak | it says | 20:15 |
| tmcpeak | ne 1256, in check_physical | 20:15 |
| tmcpeak | offset, text = result | 20:15 |
| tmcpeak | ValueError: need more than 0 values to unpack | 20:15 |
| tmcpeak | dims_: same works fine with "logical_line" instead | 20:16 |
| dims__ | tmcpeak, trying to wriate a new hacking rule? | 20:20 |
| tmcpeak | dims_: yes | 20:20 |
| tmcpeak | dims_: I need to use physical_line because the stripping out strings with xxx is messing me up | 20:21 |
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| tmcpeak | dims_: it actually probably has nothing to do with hacking | 20:26 |
| tmcpeak | it's probably a pep8 bug | 20:26 |
| dims__ | tmcpeak did you try? yield 0, "message" | 20:27 |
| tmcpeak | the call is yield(0, "message") | 20:28 |
| dims__ | you are right i see both usages in our hacking module | 20:29 |
| tmcpeak | dims_: yeah either way | 20:30 |
| tmcpeak | dims_: for some reason running yield as normal in this function with physical_line is causing an error | 20:31 |
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| dims__ | tmcpeak, did you try using the tokens? | 20:33 |
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| tmcpeak | dims_: no, how does that work? | 20:33 |
| dims__ | see hacking_no_locals | 20:33 |
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| dims__ | it has a yield too | 20:34 |
| tmcpeak | dims_: cool, thanks! | 20:35 |
| tmcpeak | dims_: yeah, including logical_line in the function fixes this issue for some reason :D | 20:36 |
| dims__ | whew nice | 20:37 |
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| dhellmann | dims__: yeah, a _ prefix would mark them as private | 21:47 |
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| dhellmann | dims__: I'll look at those nova tests in ht morning; I'm signing off for the evening | 21:48 |
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| noelbk | Alexei_987: I found my other problem: exchanges were created without queues attached, so messages were just dropped | 22:26 |
| noelbk | https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/+bug/1338732 | 22:26 |
| noelbk | I'm testing a patched oslo.messaging, then adding tests. How do I run the unit tests? | 22:27 |
| Alexei_987 | noelbk: tox -e py27 | 22:27 |
| Alexei_987 | noelbk: "The fix is to declare the queue and exchange in the producer as well as the consumer." Not sure that this is a good fix | 22:28 |
| Alexei_987 | noelbk: IMHO we should have responsibilities strictly separated | 22:28 |
| Alexei_987 | noelbk: and it's a consumer problem that we are losing this message | 22:29 |
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| noelbk | Alexei_987: in a world with faults, you can never guarantee when rabbit may die between sending and receiving a message. In this case, the consumer is waiting to reconnect when the producer wants to publish a reply | 22:30 |
| noelbk | the producer can't assume the consumer has set up the queues for it | 22:31 |
| Alexei_987 | noelbk: why you cannot assume that? | 22:32 |
| Alexei_987 | noelbk: if you have an incoming rpc call you can assume that someone is waiting for reply | 22:32 |
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| noelbk | 1. caller posts call, 2. receiver gets rpc, 3. rabbit dies and restarts, queues are now gone. 4. receiver posts back to rabbi, but queues are gone, so drops message, 4. receiver reconnects, no message to receive | 22:38 |
| noelbk | Alexei_987: ^ | 22:38 |
| Alexei_987 | noelbk: yeah but it's still a consumer problem imho | 22:39 |
| Alexei_987 | noelbk: for durable query it won't be a problem | 22:39 |
| Alexei_987 | noelbk: so making query durable is imho a better fix than splitting this responsibility across producer and consumer | 22:40 |
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| Alexei_987 | noelbk: and you can delete it when client object is destroyed | 22:41 |
| noelbk | Alexei_987: The durable thing may solve it sometime... depends on how the queues are backed up. Rabbit may start on another node with the durable stuff gone | 22:41 |
| Alexei_987 | you have ha mode for queries | 22:41 |
| Alexei_987 | so in this case it's rabbits problem | 22:41 |
| noelbk | The current code may fail with durable queues too, since the producer declares a new exchange but doesn't explicitly bind it to any queue | 22:42 |
| Alexei_987 | noelbk: that's what I'm talking about we should clearly define responsibilities for each peace of code | 22:42 |
| noelbk | I'm not sure how rabbit persists durable exchanges...? | 22:42 |
| Alexei_987 | noelbk: producer should not declare exchanges it's not responsible for | 22:42 |
| Alexei_987 | noelbk: should be the same way as with queues | 22:43 |
| noelbk | I don't see how the consumer can solve the problem. Remember, it waits for 1 sec before reconnecting, leaving plenty of time when rabbit is up but the exchange/queue does not exist to save the producer's response | 22:45 |
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| noelbk | Bot sides have to assume the world gets reset and reconstruct it | 22:45 |
| noelbk | And in rabbit, declaring queues and exhcanges is idempotent, no? (as long as the params are the same) | 22:46 |
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| noelbk | I'd love to get rid of (a) rabbit, (b) the 1 sec delay on reconnect, (c) the bugs in rabbit ha, but until then, I'm not seeing a beeter solution to the current problem | 22:47 |
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