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| harlowja_at_home | dhellmann, an interesting find https://github.com/celery/kombu/pull/335 | 06:53 |
| harlowja_at_home | ^ from someone at redhat | 06:53 |
| harlowja_at_home | i wonder if that could remove the need for 'impl_qpid.py' in oslo.messaging (and then impl_rabbit.py could just be renamed impl_kombu) | 06:56 |
| harlowja_at_home | similarily interesting, https://github.com/celery/kombu/pull/315 | 06:58 |
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| prashanthr_ | hi, i am planning to add a redis backend to the oslo cache. Can anyone help me with how to get started ? | 07:47 |
| ihrachyshka | prashanthr_: I think you should start with pushing a spec to oslo-specs with details on your proposal | 08:09 |
| ihrachyshka | prashanthr_: https://github.com/openstack/oslo-specs | 08:10 |
| prashanthr_ | ihrachyshka: Thanks for that . Will look into this . | 08:11 |
| ihrachyshka | prashanthr_: there is not much there, so you may want to look at some other -specs repos, f.e. https://github.com/openstack/neutron-specs | 08:11 |
| ihrachyshka | to get an idea how it works | 08:12 |
| prashanthr_ | ihrachyshka: This helps. thanks. Does it work the same way for projects in the incubator as well ? | 08:13 |
| ihrachyshka | prashanthr_: of course, that's what oslo-specs is for (both incubator and separate oslo projects) | 08:14 |
| prashanthr_ | ihrachyshka: Okay. | 08:15 |
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| ajo | dhellmann, thinking about the status notifiers, I believe now that it makes a lot of sense to refactor it as plugins :), so you can have statusfile for LSB initd scripts, systemd, upstart plugins, etc... | 08:52 |
| ajo | (service status notifiers) | 08:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Sergeyev proposed a change to openstack/oslo.db: Added ``docs`` environment to tox.ini https://review.openstack.org/96705 | 09:34 |
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| ihrachyshka | ajo: hail, specs! :) | 09:39 |
| ajo | %) | 09:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Robert Clark proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Incorrect block-size in docstrings https://review.openstack.org/97822 | 10:02 |
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| tkelsey | hello all, im running tox against incubator and it seems to barf up an error installing requirements. Specifically its not failing on MySQL-python, somthing about a missing env var. Anyone know much about this ? | 10:27 |
| tkelsey | if i remove MySQL-python its seems to work, at least pep8 at any rate. | 10:28 |
| tkelsey | of course the py27 tests fail without the MySQL-python package but im not sure how to make that one work? | 10:31 |
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| ruhe | tkelsey: do you have mysqlclient header installed? | 11:13 |
| ruhe | *headers | 11:13 |
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| tkelsey | ruhe: no i didnt, installing libmysqlclient-dev on my ubuntu box fixed the problem. Shame it can be fully contained inside of virtualenv. | 11:21 |
| tkelsey | maybe its worth documenting this some place ? maybe in the FAQ on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo#Incubation ? | 11:24 |
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| ruhe | tkelsey: that's a problem with many other projects - you usually need to figure out such dependencies by yourself. i hope oslo core folks will help you with finding a proper place to document this | 11:27 |
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| tkelsey | yeah, im happy to update the info some place if someone will tell me where hehe :-) thanks ruhe | 11:29 |
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| tkelsey | hummm, so it looks like I can edit the wiki pages, it seems like just adding the info to the oslo-incubation FAQ section would be the way to go, or should be OK, or do i need to raise a documentation bug before i can do that? | 11:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Cammann proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Make memory cache eviction use priority queue https://review.openstack.org/96757 | 11:46 |
| dhellmann | harlowja_away: nice find, thanks | 12:01 |
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| dhellmann | ajo: ok, I didn't want to complicate the first version unnecessarily if there were really only two protocols | 12:03 |
| dhellmann | tkelsey: your issue isn't specific to oslo, so maybe the solution should go in a more general FAQ page? | 12:05 |
| tkelsey | dhellmann: sure, I only got the issue running tox against oslo-incubation but i am happy to update info where ever it fits best. | 12:07 |
| tkelsey | im became a contributer recently so I have no idea where that best fit would be though :-) | 12:08 |
| dhellmann | tkelsey: well, anything that uses mysql-python would have the same issue, so I think that's most projects | 12:10 |
| dhellmann | you know, a good place would be in the installation instructions for oslo.db | 12:10 |
| * dhellmann looks at that source tree | 12:10 | |
| dhellmann | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo.db/tree/doc/source/installation.rst | 12:10 |
| dhellmann | tkelsey: that file is pretty sparse, so you could add a note there | 12:11 |
| tkelsey | ok will do, thanks dhellmann, Is it worth making a bug or just submitting a patch? | 12:12 |
| dhellmann | oslo.db doesn't require mysql, so you'd want a sub-section with a name like "using with MySQL" and talk about installing the MySQL-python package using pip, and then give the hint about ensuring the headers and other stuff are already installed | 12:12 |
| dhellmann | oh, you don't need a bug for this | 12:12 |
| tkelsey | ok cool, thanks for pointing me in the right direction. | 12:13 |
| dhellmann | tkelsey: you said you're a new contributor, is this your first patch? if so, let me know if you run into trouble with git, gerrit, etc. | 12:13 |
| tkelsey | it will be patch No2 hehe :-) I know git reasonably well but thanks all the same | 12:14 |
| dhellmann | tkelsey: ok, well, the offer stands in case you run into any trouble :-) -- and thanks! | 12:15 |
| tkelsey | :-) | 12:15 |
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| ajo | dhellmann, yes, but it seems that there are more possible protocols (may be in future) | 12:40 |
| dhellmann | ajo: ok, I wasn't sure about that | 12:40 |
| ajo | we have init.d, systemd, and upstart so far | 12:40 |
| dhellmann | and they all use different "protocols"? | 12:40 |
| ajo | upstart is unknown to me, but doesn't use what systemd does.. that for sure | 12:41 |
| ajo | and I had a surprise, systemd specifies an "ERRNO" messages over the NOTIFY_SOCKET protocol, but they didn't actually implement it :) | 12:44 |
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| dhellmann | heh | 12:44 |
| ajo | I was making some preliminary tests here and I found it | 12:44 |
| ajo | but I have a patch for systemd! | 12:44 |
| ajo | trying it right now :) | 12:44 |
| ajo | if it works I'll send it upstream | 12:44 |
| ajo | ah... I started with this in neutron, then I realized it fits better in oslo, and I'll end up patching systemd %) | 12:45 |
| dhellmann | you're working your way upstream | 12:45 |
| ajo | :) | 12:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tim Kelsey proposed a change to openstack/oslo.db: Adding dependency documentation for MySQL. https://review.openstack.org/98105 | 13:05 |
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| tkelsey | thanks for the comment dhellmann, quick question, is there a way I can build the output of the rst file locally? I couldnt find anything on the docs wiki | 13:14 |
| dhellmann | tkelsey: excellent question. I usually use the (not obvious) command "tox -e venv -- python setup.py build_sphinx" | 13:16 |
| dhellmann | I'm not sure if that tox.ini has a "doc" or "docs" target, yet (some do, some don't) | 13:16 |
| dhellmann | if it does, you can just run "tox -e doc" or "tox -e docs" (depending on the name) | 13:17 |
| tkelsey | ok thanks, will give that a go | 13:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tim Kelsey proposed a change to openstack/oslo.db: Adding dependency documentation for MySQL. https://review.openstack.org/98105 | 13:29 |
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| dhellmann | tkelsey: that looks better, though there's a little trailing whitespace | 13:30 |
| dhellmann | tkelsey: do you think we need to say "required for tox tests"? while it's true, mysql is also the most common production configuration | 13:30 |
| tkelsey | hummm, perhaps not, or maybe re-word it a bit. | 13:33 |
| tkelsey | Yeah its probably not needed to point that out explicitly. I was thinking of editing the wiki page here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Testing to add a general section about dependencies and checking the installation instructions. | 13:39 |
| tkelsey | worth it? | 13:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Tim Kelsey proposed a change to openstack/oslo.db: Adding dependency documentation for MySQL. https://review.openstack.org/98105 | 13:40 |
| dhellmann | tkelsey: I like the idea of adding something to that wiki page | 13:41 |
| tkelsey | dhellmann: ok will do | 13:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Tim Kelsey proposed a change to openstack/oslo.db: Adding dependency documentation for MySQL. https://review.openstack.org/98105 | 13:48 |
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| dhellmann | tkelsey: +2; thanks for helping us with the documentation! | 13:50 |
| tkelsey | thanks for your friendly assistance dhellmann | 13:53 |
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| hyakuhei | dhellmann: I fixed those docstrings fwiw: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97822/ | 14:11 |
| dhellmann | hyakuhei: that change is based on the fact that we use the SHA256 hashtype? | 14:14 |
| dhellmann | or that the MAX_CB_SIZE is 256? | 14:14 |
| hyakuhei | the latter | 14:14 |
| dhellmann | ok | 14:14 |
| hyakuhei | I raised a bug regarding the other issue with padding but it turned out the code was fine, I was having a less than bright moment. | 14:15 |
| dhellmann | hyakuhei: I added Simo, since he's the crypto maintainer | 14:15 |
| dhellmann | hyakuhei: I saw that discussion. I wasn't sure, so thank you for documenting it with the bug report. | 14:16 |
| hyakuhei | Cool, thanks! Hopefully I'll contribute something actually useful soon | 14:16 |
| hyakuhei | no worries, many eyes and all that | 14:16 |
| tkelsey | dhellmann: I have updated the wiki here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Testing#Failed_Dependencies | 14:17 |
| dhellmann | tkelsey: that looks good. you could also point to http://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-projects.html for the list projects and their rendered HTML docs | 14:18 |
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| tkelsey | dhellmann: ah good point. will do | 14:19 |
| tkelsey | dhellmann: done | 14:27 |
| dhellmann | tkelsey: thanks! | 14:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | James Page proposed a change to openstack/oslo.messaging: Enable heartbeating on rabbitmq connections https://review.openstack.org/94656 | 14:56 |
| openstackgerrit | James Page proposed a change to openstack/oslo.messaging: Enable heartbeating on rabbitmq connections https://review.openstack.org/94656 | 14:58 |
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| tkelsey | dhellmann: so it looks like somthing went wrong, i dont think its related to my doc changes but could you please confirm? the output is here http://logs.openstack.org/93/96293/2/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full/a644174/console.html | 15:01 |
| bnemec | ekarlso: We have a couple of issues left to resolve before we can release oslo.db. | 15:01 |
| dhellmann | tkelsey: yeah, we're experiencing some issues with race conditions in the CI system right now | 15:04 |
| dhellmann | tkelsey: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-June/036810.html | 15:05 |
| tkelsey | dhellmann: ah i see thanks, apologies for the noise. | 15:05 |
| dhellmann | tkelsey: you can follow the instructions for submitting the recheck that the bot left on your change, or you can wait a while and see if the current race conditions clear up before running the recheck | 15:05 |
| dhellmann | tkelsey: not a problem :-) | 15:05 |
| dhellmann | tkelsey: not everyone has a bot to tell you which bug you've hit when the tests fail on your changes | 15:06 |
| tkelsey | dhellmann: heh sure, very handy. | 15:08 |
| dhellmann | tkelsey: our infra and qa teams are pretty awesome :-) | 15:08 |
| tkelsey | dhellmann: they do seem so :-) | 15:08 |
| tkelsey | all the automation and info is really quite impressive | 15:09 |
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| ildikov | dhellmann: hi. are you around? | 17:03 |
| dhellmann | ildikov: I'm working on something but if you leave a question I'll try to reply when I'm free | 17:29 |
| ildikov | dhellmann: I finally answered your comment in gerrit | 17:31 |
| ildikov | dhellmann: it's ok if we discuss it there, I just thought that here maybe faster | 17:32 |
| ildikov | dhellmann: if it will need further discussion, I will be available later today, or we kind find a suitable time slot tomorrow also | 17:32 |
| ildikov | dhellmann: s/kind/can/, it seems I need some rest for today :S :) | 17:37 |
| ildikov | dhellmann: laters :) | 17:37 |
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| mriedem | hey oslo people, this has me scratching my head | 20:15 |
| mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/+bug/1326951 | 20:15 |
| mriedem | stable/icehouse requirements update failed in the gate | 20:15 |
| mriedem | racy unit test | 20:15 |
| mriedem | but none of the jenkins jobs there reported failures on that job | 20:15 |
| mriedem | and that's the only change that fails on | 20:15 |
| dhellmann | mriedem: very strange | 20:17 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/75838 | 20:17 |
| mriedem | that might be the fix on master | 20:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack/oslo.db: Setup for translation https://review.openstack.org/98240 | 20:19 |
| mriedem | why is there even a stable/icehouse branch for oslo.messaging? | 20:19 |
| mriedem | since it's a library | 20:20 |
| dhellmann | mriedem: very good question. markmc isn't online atm, but he's the one to ask | 20:20 |
| dhellmann | I feel like I've had that conversation with him or ttx before... | 20:20 |
| mriedem | ok, cherry pick in the meantime | 20:20 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98242/ | 20:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack/oslo.i18n: Setup for translation https://review.openstack.org/98243 | 20:20 |
| mriedem | but not really a point in backporting things to stable branches of a library | 20:21 |
| mriedem | you're not going to re-tag them | 20:21 |
| dhellmann | right | 20:21 |
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| zzzeek | greetings | 20:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Feodor Tersin proposed a change to openstack/cliff: Make show option compatible with Python 2.6. https://review.openstack.org/95916 | 20:47 |
| zzzeek | hey dhellmann: im reading https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Blueprints#Oslo, does the fact that I don’t see any actual specs in http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo-specs/tree/specs mean that this is a new process that nobody has used yet? or am i missing something | 20:48 |
| dhellmann | zzzeek: the process is new, and there are a bunch of specs up for review: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/oslo-specs+status:open,n,z | 20:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack/oslo.messaging: Setup for translation https://review.openstack.org/98248 | 20:49 |
| zzzeek | ah oh i see | 20:49 |
| zzzeek | OK so if and hwen a blueprint is actually part of master id see it in that other repo ? | 20:49 |
| zzzeek | that is, the thing the blueprint describes | 20:50 |
| dhellmann | we haven't approved any blueprints yet, but yes, when they are approved they will end up in the oslo-specs repo you pointed to | 20:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack/oslo.vmware: Setup for translation https://review.openstack.org/98250 | 20:51 |
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| harlowja | dhellmann does pbr do the pre-release version stuff correctly, any docs on what to change to use it correctly? | 21:02 |
| dhellmann | harlowja: "the pre-release version stuff"? | 21:02 |
| harlowja | *sorry, context lacking | 21:02 |
| harlowja | for pbr | 21:02 |
| dhellmann | harlowja: what "stuff" do you mean? | 21:02 |
| harlowja | i was just reading https://github.com/openstack-dev/pbr/commit/e01b28e4c36d250 and seems pretty simple but also simple to screw up :-P | 21:03 |
| dhellmann | harlowja: what are you trying to do? | 21:04 |
| harlowja | :) | 21:04 |
| harlowja | so right now (awaiting gate) taskflow will have a 0.3.x release, so after this, until 0.4 should be in pre-release mode, just wanting to make sure and do anything special needed for pre-release versions | 21:05 |
| harlowja | is it just basically creating a tag for 0.3.x.a(for example) | 21:07 |
| dhellmann | ok, I'm not sure infra is ready for pre-release versions | 21:07 |
| dhellmann | it would actually be 0.4.0.a0 I think | 21:07 |
| harlowja | kk | 21:07 |
| dhellmann | harlowja: see also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96608/ | 21:07 |
| harlowja | dhellmann ya, thats good, pbr versioning scheme is a little weird (especially with commits) | 21:08 |
| harlowja | so i'll check with infra on this before i start doing a 0.4.0.a0 (or similar) | 21:09 |
| harlowja | *after the current madness calms down* | 21:09 |
| dhellmann | harlowja: sounds good | 21:11 |
| harlowja | dhellmann thx :) | 21:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed a change to openstack/pycadf: add audit_maps for more OpenStack components https://review.openstack.org/75114 | 22:50 |
| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed a change to openstack/pycadf: add audit_maps for more OpenStack components https://review.openstack.org/75114 | 22:52 |
| jogo | anyone want to do a small hacking review, so we can formally release hacking 0.9 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97988/ | 23:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Check for git before querying it for a version https://review.openstack.org/98273 | 23:07 |
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