Wednesday, 2014-06-04

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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Make the runner a runtime provided property  https://review.openstack.org/9765600:14
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dhellmannmorganfainberg: probably _LE (error)?00:51
morganfainbergdhellmann, figured as much. but wanted to get an outside opinion00:52
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dhellmannmorganfainberg: yeah, I think that's part of what I expected _LE would be used for01:00
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Remove binary_decode from misc utils  https://review.openstack.org/9769607:05
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ihrachyshkadhellmann: hey. can we discuss a backport candidate?07:11
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openstackgerritJames Polley proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Clarify where the "following template" is  https://review.openstack.org/9769807:17
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openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/oslo.db: replace string format arguments with function parameters  https://review.openstack.org/9433408:20
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openstackgerritVictor Sergeyev proposed a change to openstack/oslo.db: Remove common context from oslo.db  https://review.openstack.org/9339708:36
openstackgerritVictor Sergeyev proposed a change to openstack/oslo.db: Remove common context usage from db model_query()  https://review.openstack.org/9339608:36
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ekarlsois o.db rdy ?10:50
openstackgerritMiguel Angel Ajo proposed a change to openstack/oslo-specs: Add service-status-interface spec  https://review.openstack.org/9774810:53
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ajodhellmann, http://docs-draft.openstack.org/48/97748/1/check/gate-oslo-specs-docs/c4a464e/doc/build/html/specs/juno/service-status-interface.html10:57
ajofirst version ready10:57
openstackgerritNikola Dipanov proposed a change to openstack/oslo.messaging: DO NOT MERGE: Fix can_send_version to check against the base client version  https://review.openstack.org/9775010:57
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ajodhellmann, thanks for the review ;) addressing your comments12:36
dhellmannajo: cool -- Just to be clear: I like this idea, I'm just not sure I get some of the details.12:37
ajodhellmann, totally understood, it's my first "-spec" at openstack, the more complete, the clearer picture it will provide...12:38
openstackgerritGordon Sim proposed a change to openstack/oslo-specs: Added spec for proposed AMQP 1.0 driver  https://review.openstack.org/9672912:40
dhellmannajo: right, we're all still figuring out the process for specs since they are new this cycle12:41
ajodhellmann, it's actually a very good addition to the process :)12:41
dhellmannajo: and of course, the details might have to change when you get into the implementation, but the more we can figure out up front the better off we'll be12:42
dhellmannajo: I've definitely already found if valuable for my own planning12:42
ajoit always is...12:42
dhellmannI uncovered a couple of issues just by trying to figure out enough detail to explain how to graduate some of the libraries12:42
ajodhellmann, I was missing it lately. Specially the sequence diagrams help to clean up the way classes talk to each other. I refined several local versions into this last one, which is much simpler/cleaner than initially, but sure, it can be improved yet :)12:43
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ajodhellmann, yes, and the templates are good also, those make you think about performance, security, etc... API impact12:44
ajoin advance12:44
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openstackgerritKen Giusti proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Ensure routing key is specified in the address for a direct producer  https://review.openstack.org/9778013:09
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo-specs: add spec for graduate-oslo-log  https://review.openstack.org/9592913:10
openstackgerritKen Giusti proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Ensure routing key is specified in the address for a direct producer  https://review.openstack.org/9778313:16
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ruhehi! are there any projects using https://github.com/openstack/oslo-incubator/blob/master/openstack/common/db/sqlalchemy/test_migrations.py ? it seems like every project has it's own copy of test_migrations. should i also go with a copy of test_migrations from another openstack project?13:51
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bnemecruhe: No, you should sync it from oslo-incubator: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo#Syncing_Code_from_Incubator14:16
bnemecNote that the db code is graduating to oslo.db, so if you don't need it immediately you might want to just wait until that's available.14:16
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ruhebnemec: ok. thank you. any ETA for oslo.db graduation and availability?14:17
bnemecruhe: I think we're getting close.  viktors and rpodolyaka are the ones driving that so they should know exactly what still needs to happen.14:18
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viktorsHi bnemec, ruhe. Unfortunately, we still need to fix config usage, fix model_query() and add eventlt.tpool support.14:24
viktorsSome of these patches are already approved, but they are not merged yet because of gate bugs :(14:24
viktorsruhe: as for test_migrations.py - feel free to reuse it, this code should be already synced to the most of OS projects14:26
ruheviktors: willdo. thank you!14:27
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tkelseyhello openstack oslo people, I have a question about incubator, is this the best place to ask or is there an incubator specific channel?14:28
viktorsbnemec: by the way, as for oslo.db - can you please re review patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93396/ (Remove common context usage from db model_query()), when you'll have a time? :)14:29
viktorstkelsey: yes, you can ask your question about incubator here14:30
tkelseyviktors: thanks, so i see changes like this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94881/6 that seem to copy portions of incubator in them, is this the correct way to use icubator stuff? im a little confused by it14:31
tkelseyperhaps there is an info page some place that answers this question, I read about projects graduating from incubation, but im not sure how it relates to stuff being used like this14:33
viktorstkelsey: you can read about syncing code from olso-incubator at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo#Syncing_Code_from_Incubator14:35
viktorsIn a few words - sync looks correct, but I prefer to have a first patch for sync and second patch for the changes in the project code.14:35
bnemecYeah, that patch has a number of issues. :-)14:36
tkelseyviktors: I see, yes that would make more sense to me as well. I will read the page. Thanks for the info :-)14:36
viktorstkelsey: no problem :)14:36
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bnemecviktors: I will take another look.  Just got out of my morning meeting.14:37
viktorsbnemec: thanks.14:39
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hyakuheiWhile I was reviewing some of the Kite code I noticed a few oddities with the crypto/utils.py file, should I talk about it here, open an LP bug or maybe put something on the ML?14:44
hyakuheiNot a defect as such, just some things I wasn't sure about14:44
dhellmannhyakuhei: why don't you start here, and we'll see if it needs a ML discussion14:45
hyakuheiok great, so looking at http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo-incubator/tree/openstack/common/crypto/utils.py there are a few things14:45
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hyakuheiFirst off all the comments refer to AES-128 but according to line 97 we are actually doing AES-256 everywhere14:46
hyakuheiI think ?14:46
hyakuheiThe second thing I noticed was that the padding seemed a bit funky14:46
hyakuheiIf my data is boundary-size I'll send a whole second block of padding - is that normal/desired behaviour?14:47
dhellmannhyakuhei: I wouldn't think so14:47
hyakuheiComments in position (but the wrong CR) here : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80902/4/kite/openstack/common/crypto/utils.py14:47
hyakuhei^ That's where I commented on it before I realised it was oslo14:47
bnemecviktors: Okay, looks good now.  I like the comment explaining the external bits (with the exception of the grammar nit ;-).14:47
dhellmannhyakuhei: the docstring thing can probably just be fixed with a patch to oslo-incubator but the other deserves a bug report14:49
hyakuheiOk great, I'm happy to do both14:49
dhellmannhyakuhei: we'd be happy to have a patch for that, too, of course, but the bug will help track it :-)14:49
hyakuheiSo it's ok for me to just patch little things without a bug?14:49
dhellmannhyakuhei: yeah, for something like that it's ok14:49
hyakuheigreat, I'll do that now. Thanks dhellmann14:50
dhellmannhyakuhei: it's like to get a higher priority in reviews if you do file a bug, but it's not required14:50
hyakuheiMakes sense14:50
* bnemec doesn't want to think what our bug list would look like if people opened one for every typo they fix14:50
viktorsbnemec: thanks for review. Can I ask you to be in touch a few minutes - let me fix you nit also.14:50
bnemec:-)14:50
hyakuheiI'd actually like to talk about getting the OSSG to do a code review of more of the OSLO base at some point soon14:50
hyakuheibnemec: think of all those closed bugs!14:50
bnemecviktors: That would be great.14:50
dhellmannhyakuhei: that's a good idea, and it's planned for the libraries14:52
bnemechyakuhei: As long as the launchpad integration with Gerrit works right. :-)14:52
dhellmannbut it would be good to have someone look over the incubator, too14:52
hyakuheiYeah, I agree14:52
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openstackgerritVictor Sergeyev proposed a change to openstack/oslo.db: Remove common context from oslo.db  https://review.openstack.org/9339714:54
openstackgerritVictor Sergeyev proposed a change to openstack/oslo.db: Remove common context usage from db model_query()  https://review.openstack.org/9339614:54
hyakuheiQuestion: Do you actually want 256 bit encryption in here or are the comments right and the blocksize wrong?14:55
viktorsbnemec: fixed14:55
hyakuhei(comments about algorithms and size are orthogonal for now14:56
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bnemecviktors: +2, thanks!15:04
viktorsbnemec: thank you!15:04
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hyakuheiSo I'm slightly confused, when I pull down a fresh clone of oslo-incubator and do a commit without making any changes I'm seeing something waiting to be merged.15:07
hyakuheisomething in common/log.py15:07
hyakuheidhellmann: ^ ?15:12
dhellmannhyakuhei: can you pastebin the diff?15:13
hyakuheiSure, though it doesn't show up in the diff15:14
hyakuheiBasically, I follow the gerrit workflow, pull down the clone, etc.15:14
dhellmannhyakuhei: so you see that file as having a pending modification, but there is no modification?15:14
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dhellmannhyakuhei: which git repo are you cloning?15:14
dhellmannwhat url?15:14
hyakuheigit://git.openstack.org/openstack/oslo-incubator15:15
dhellmannok, I thought maybe if you were using github it was out of sync15:15
hyakuheiBasically I pull down a fresh copy15:15
hyakuheifollow the guide, do the --ff-only etc15:15
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hyakuheibranch to a sensible branch15:15
dhellmannwhich guide are you following?15:15
hyakuheiGerritWorkflow15:15
dhellmannI don't ever use --ff-only, I don't know what that is15:15
hyakuhei^ It's in the guide and it's what I've always done ;)15:16
dhellmannoh, hmm, I always just do "git pull"15:16
hyakuheiAnyway, lets assume that's not the broken bit for a second15:16
dhellmannsure15:16
hyakuheiSo I branch as you should15:16
dhellmannok15:16
hyakuheithen make my tiny change and do a commit --amend15:16
hyakuheiand there's some odd Merge stuff there15:16
dhellmannamend?15:17
hyakuheiheh, so I'm following https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GerritWorkflow15:17
dhellmannare you updating your own commit?15:17
hyakuheiNo, I suppose I'm just used to running amend15:18
dhellmannok, you only use --amend to change an existing commit before resubmitting it15:18
dhellmannso if you have a new change, you want to just commit it to make a new changeset15:19
hyakuheiHmm. Magically it's not happening now, though I did get tkelsey to take a look and he replicated the oddness15:19
hyakuheinote oddness is a commit message about a change to some log.py file15:19
hyakuheiI'll nuke it and start from scratch15:19
dhellmannusing --amend will do weird things to your tree, and then a git review (which rebases) may cause strangeness15:19
hyakuheiok cool, rm -rf'd and re-working now15:19
hyakuheithanks dhellmann15:19
tkelseyyeah i can confirm i did see it also15:20
hyakuheiwell third time's a charm :)15:23
openstackgerritRobert Clark proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Crypto utils file documentation referred to 128 bit crypt but appears to perform 256 bit changed documentation to match  https://review.openstack.org/9782215:23
dhellmannhyakuhei: :-)15:23
bnemecThat GerritWorkflow page needs updating.  It's been on my list for about six months now. :-/15:24
hyakuheiSo that oddness that I saw before, that's showing as the 'parent' of my change15:24
dhellmannsome of the steps on the page seem to be related to the docs project specifically15:24
dhellmannhyakuhei: right, that was probably caused by the --amend15:24
tkelseyyeah i was also using --amend, its not needed for a fresh commit, i guess its tryting to ammend the last commit message, a merge doen by Jenkins15:24
tkelsey*done15:25
dhellmannright, --amend changes the most recent commit to include your new changes, which you only want to do if you're modifying a patch and resubmitting it15:25
hyakuheiYeah that makes sense. Serves me right for expecting commands in the documentation to be in the order you would use them :P15:27
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/9325415:53
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bnemecdhellmann: Do we want to have a special policy on approving specs?  I think in tripleo there was discussion that only the PTL would approve, and nova has their nova-drivers team that can approve.16:03
bnemecI'm thinking with the size of our team we probably want to stick with +2 +2/+A though.16:04
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dhellmannbnemec: maybe 3, for a spec? I don't think I need to be involved in all of them, though I'll obviously try16:32
dhellmannbnemec: this would be a good topic for the meeting this week, would you add it to the agenda (I have a meeting starting shortly)16:32
bnemecdhellmann: Yep, sounds good.16:33
bnemecAt one point there was talk of requiring all cores to sign off on all specs in tripleo.  I suspect that's not actually going to happen. ;-)16:33
dhellmannbnemec: the more I think about it, the more I like the idea of using more than 2 votes. For the governance repo no one has -2, and only ttx has +2. Maybe we could configure our specs repo like that.16:33
dhellmannbnemec: that might be excessive, but I would definitely like as much input as possible16:34
dhellmanns/that/all cores/16:34
bnemecdhellmann: Yeah, and I think part of the motivation was to keep all the cores up on what's going on in the project too.16:34
dhellmannanother good reason16:35
bnemecOh look, I have a meeting too. :-)16:36
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openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Fix Sphinx directive name  https://review.openstack.org/9785016:38
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo.i18n: Handle . and - in translation domains  https://review.openstack.org/9268216:51
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo.i18n: Split up monolithic test file  https://review.openstack.org/9268116:51
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openstackgerritRobert Clark proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Incorrect block-size in docstrings Crypto utils file documentation referred to 128 bit crypt but appears to perform 256 bit changed documentation to match  https://review.openstack.org/9782217:10
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openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Add source code generation to conf.py  https://review.openstack.org/9786217:38
ildikovdhellmann: hi. are you around?17:39
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dhellmannildikov: hi17:41
ildikovdhellmann: I just wanted ask if you thought something like this as docs job for oslo: https://review.openstack.org/9786217:42
dhellmannildikov: yes, we should do something like that and we should turn on the flag to prevent sphinx errors, too17:43
dhellmannwe should probably move this auto-generation stuff into oslosphinx instead of coyping the function between conf.py files, but that can come later17:43
ildikovdhellmann: I saw a generate_autoindex in pbr too17:44
dhellmannildikov: oh, interesting, maybe we can use that?17:44
ildikovbut I'm not against to put it to oslosphinx later, if that seems to be a better option17:44
dhellmannoslosphinx makes more sense, but if it is already in pbr then that works, too17:45
ildikovit's here: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-dev/pbr/tree/pbr/packaging.py#n65817:45
dhellmannah!17:45
ildikovnot the same as the one we use, I did not have time to check what this is for especially17:45
dhellmannlet's see if that produces something like what we want and use that instead of adding to conf.py17:45
ildikovI just saw it the last time, when we tried to figure out why the doc job does not fail in case of errors17:46
dhellmannoh, the difference there is it would only work if you run "python setup.py build_sphinx" where the change in conf.py works if you run sphinx-build directly17:46
dhellmannildikov: pbr may need more documentation :-)17:47
ildikovbut the previous one uses this only in this case: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-dev/pbr/tree/pbr/packaging.py#n74517:47
ildikovagreed ;)17:47
dhellmannhttp://docs.openstack.org/developer/pbr/17:47
dhellmannthat does mention the autodoc feature, but I don't see anything about turning it on17:47
ildikovme neither, I guess it's similar to the warnerrors, but I will try to check17:48
dhellmannok, thanks17:48
ildikovif I can turn it on, than we can see, what should be done with it to use this version and get the same output as with the conf.py version17:49
ildikovdhellmann: cool, thanks, more work again :)17:50
dhellmannildikov: I appreciate you taking all of this on. :-)17:50
ildikovdhellmann: the problem is that I like challenges and this doc clean up looks like one... :)17:52
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ildikovdhellmann: and also, if others do not have to do this again, then I think it worth the effort17:52
ildikovdhellmann: the other thing is that there were some not just sphinx formatting related errors in the sphinx build17:53
dhellmannildikov: it is definitely helpful17:53
dhellmannoh, you found worse problems?17:53
ildikovdhellmann: at least in my env17:53
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ildikovdhellmann: I saw error messages like this: AttributeError: 'Module_six_moves_urllib_parse' object has no attribute 'SplitResult'17:55
ildikovdhellmann: but it was in my env17:55
ildikovdhellmann: I will check the log of the job on the gate17:56
ildikovdhellmann: I found some code related issues in Ceilometer with sphinx-build, so now at least I know that it is possible17:57
dhellmannildikov: ok, I don't recognize that error message18:00
ildikovdhellmann: ok, cool, then the problem is in my env18:00
dhellmannwell, it could be real and I just haven't seen it :-)18:00
ildikovdhellmann: human eyes have a selective way of working, so it's not impossible :)18:01
ildikovdhellmann: there was one error on the gate that I haven't seen locally, however it had to be there...18:02
ildikovdhellmann: I will let you know if I have any results or any more questions with pbr18:03
ildikovdhellmann: and I end this day now :)18:03
dhellmannildikov: have a good evening :-)18:06
ildikovdhellmann: thanks :)18:07
ildikovdhellmann: have a nice day/afternoon18:08
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo-specs: add spec for remove-context-adapter  https://review.openstack.org/9587018:55
dhellmanndims: ping?18:57
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rpodolyaka1dhellmann: hey! are you around?19:48
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openstackgerritKen Giusti proposed a change to openstack/oslo.messaging: An initial implementation of a 1.0 based messaging driver  https://review.openstack.org/7581520:02
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Add in default transcation isolation levels  https://review.openstack.org/9790220:03
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack/oslo-specs: Graduate oslo.serialization  https://review.openstack.org/9731520:04
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Add in default transcation isolation levels  https://review.openstack.org/9790220:06
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orzelhello20:18
orzelI've been struggling with a problem for days. I've even re-installed the whole thing from scratch, only to get exactly the same error. I can create/delete volumes, but i can't attach them : http://pastebin.com/EV316LBS20:18
orzelthe stacktrace is full of 'oslo', i'm not really sure about what this means20:19
orzelmy openstack is icehouse, and oslo.messaging is 1.3.020:19
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bnemecorzel: That looks like a cinder problem (see lines 3 and 4 in your paste).  I think oslo is just logging because it sees that an exception happened.20:22
bnemecdhellmann: I'm wondering if threadgroup and eventlet_backdoor were put into oslo.server because they use eventlet and we were trying to keep the contamination to a minimum. :-)20:25
bnemecThey both look fairly generic otherwise.20:25
orzelbnemec: how can i make oslo less verbose (not diplayig "TRACE") ?20:30
bnemecorzel: I'm not positive, but you might be able to do it with default_log_levels in the service's conf file: https://github.com/openstack/oslo-incubator/blob/master/openstack/common/log.py#L16620:36
bnemecI'm not sure off hand what level TRACE corresponds to though.20:37
dhellmannbnemec: you might be right about those modules20:42
dhellmannI might have thought the backdoor thing really only made sense in a server, too20:42
dhellmannrpodolyaka: here20:43
bnemecdhellmann: Yeah.  It occurs to me that since we're cleaning greenthreads out of processutils, we probably don't want to introduce another module with an explicit dependency on them.20:43
dhellmannyeah20:43
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack/oslo-specs: Graduate oslo.concurrency  https://review.openstack.org/9729620:44
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo.i18n: Check the lazy flag at runtime  https://review.openstack.org/9793120:59
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo.i18n: Update the public API of the library  https://review.openstack.org/9793220:59
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo.i18n: Improve initial documentation  https://review.openstack.org/9696121:17
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Add in default transaction isolation levels  https://review.openstack.org/9790221:50
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Allow the mysql mode to be more than just TRADITIONAL  https://review.openstack.org/9796422:31
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ekarlsoany new cut of of o.db coming soon ?23:31
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openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Make import checks properly detect blank lines and comments  https://review.openstack.org/9798823:39
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