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| psargent | neiljerram: are you there? | 14:58 |
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| neiljerram | hi, yes | 15:01 |
| psargent | are you available now to chat about project plans? | 15:02 |
| neiljerram | Sure, yes. | 15:02 |
| neiljerram | Do you want to drive on that? | 15:02 |
| psargent | ok! sure ! I was thinking about breaking up in the following stages of work | 15:04 |
| psargent | 1) training, familiar with Neutron 2) write design document 3) review documents 4) code 5) test | 15:05 |
| neiljerram | That sounds very good to me. | 15:05 |
| psargent | I am not sure how many weeks to assign to each stage but I can give an estimation | 15:06 |
| neiljerram | How much time do you have per week, in general? | 15:06 |
| psargent | I have 40 hrs per week but I have some planned vacation coming up | 15:07 |
| neiljerram | Cool. Is it OK for me to ask when the vacation is? | 15:08 |
| psargent | sure... I am looking at my calendar ...just a sec | 15:08 |
| psargent | ok...I wanted to get my dates correct...I will be on vacation Dec 23 to the beginning of the year | 15:10 |
| psargent | returning on Jan 4........ | 15:10 |
| neiljerram | OK, that is quite similar to me. I will be on vacation from 16th Dec until 3rd Jan. | 15:11 |
| psargent | ok! | 15:11 |
| neiljerram | But I can still be available from home during most of that time. | 15:11 |
| psargent | me too...I will pop in from time to time | 15:12 |
| neiljerram | I will see email (because it's on my phone), and will then be able to switch on a computer to do IRC | 15:12 |
| psargent | and one more vacatin day on January 8 | 15:12 |
| neiljerram | (or reviews, anything else etc.) | 15:12 |
| psargent | ok | 15:12 |
| psargent | I was thinking the first two weeks of training and getting familiar with Neutron.....I set up DevStack | 15:13 |
| neiljerram | OK, so that's from now until 21st? | 15:14 |
| neiljerram | Is DevStack working for you? | 15:14 |
| psargent | I have installed DevStack but I have not tried to set up a network or anything yet | 15:15 |
| psargent | I am able to login as admin and | 15:16 |
| neiljerram | Presumably just a single node first, which does both control and compute function? | 15:17 |
| psargent | it's down again...I was going to login in..but do you think it would be good training | 15:18 |
| neiljerram | Not sure I completely follow - but no doubt that a working DevStack is essential for exploring further work after that. | 15:19 |
| psargent | yes...it is a single node and has compute and network functions | 15:19 |
| neiljerram | Definitely good training, i.e. a good way to start understanding the pieces of an OpenStack system | 15:19 |
| psargent | I am actually running the neutron code when I use the Network function in DevStack | 15:21 |
| psargent | is that correct? | 15:21 |
| neiljerram | Yes. | 15:21 |
| neiljerram | Should be, anyway. May still need a setting in local.conf - I'll just check... | 15:22 |
| psargent | ok... | 15:23 |
| psargent | How can I setup Neutron IPAM on DevStack? Can you point me in a direction here? | 15:24 |
| neiljerram | I think all that's needed is for 'neutron' and some 'n-' things to be enabled services. For example in my current work I have: | 15:24 |
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| neiljerram | ENABLED_SERVICES=n-cpu,neutron,q-dhcp,n-api-meta,calico,calico-bird | 15:25 |
| neiljerram | for a compute node, and | 15:25 |
| neiljerram | disable_service dstat | 15:25 |
| neiljerram | disable_service tempest | 15:25 |
| neiljerram | disable_service n-net | 15:25 |
| neiljerram | enable_service q-svc | 15:25 |
| neiljerram | enable_service q-dhcp | 15:25 |
| neiljerram | enable_service n-api-meta | 15:25 |
| neiljerram | for a control node. | 15:25 |
| psargent | ok....is this in your local.conf file? | 15:26 |
| neiljerram | Sorry, I meant 'q-' things, not 'n-'. 'q' is the DevStack prefix for Neutron, and 'n' is for Nova | 15:26 |
| psargent | ok | 15:27 |
| neiljerram | Well, actually it's in the 'settings' file of my networking driver's DevStack plugin. But exactly the same should work in local.conf as well. | 15:27 |
| neiljerram | Have you been following some DevStack config guide? | 15:27 |
| psargent | ok | 15:27 |
| psargent | yes...I have been following the DevStack config quide | 15:28 |
| neiljerram | So, for a single node, I think I'd write the disable_service and enable_service lines above, plus enable-service lines for n-cpu and neutron | 15:28 |
| neiljerram | (ignore the 'calico' ones, that's my networking driver) | 15:29 |
| psargent | ok...just pulling up the config guide | 15:29 |
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| neiljerram | Re your question above about IPAM... I'm afraid I don't know yet; that's a new detail for me. | 15:32 |
| psargent | ok...i think I got it...write the disavle_service and enable_service above and add enable_service n-net | 15:33 |
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| psargent | and add enable_service neutron | 15:33 |
| neiljerram | No, not 'n-net'. n-net means Nova networking, which is the old thing that came before Neutron | 15:33 |
| psargent | Re IPAM question: ok ! | 15:33 |
| psargent | ok' | 15:34 |
| neiljerram | Overall, I think you should aim for a working DevStack node, where you can create - say - 2 VMs on the same network. | 15:34 |
| neiljerram | By default, I think those VMs will get their IP addresses from the non-pluggable IPAM. | 15:35 |
| psargent | ok... 2 VMs on the same network... | 15:35 |
| psargent | ohh ok | 15:35 |
| neiljerram | So then next step would be to change config (somewhere, I'm afraid I don't know) to use pluggable IPAM instead, with the default driver class. | 15:36 |
| neiljerram | That should have the same result, i.e. created VMs get an IP address similar to what they get with the non-pluggable IPAM | 15:37 |
| psargent | ok...after creating 2 VMs on the same network...and then figure out how to change conifng to use pluggable IPAM | 15:37 |
| psargent | ok...I understand | 15:38 |
| neiljerram | And then the next step after that would be to play with making your own pluggable IPAM driver that does some wacky IP allocation, and configure that in and check that it gets called. | 15:38 |
| neiljerram | So at that point your code would be controlling the IP address that each VM gets, and you can tweak that any way you like. | 15:39 |
| psargent | ok...the fun part!! | 15:39 |
| neiljerram | Yes! | 15:40 |
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| psargent | ok....I think..I have the steps...now the execution !! I'm still geting use to the development enivronment | 15:42 |
| psargent | but I am sure | 15:42 |
| neiljerram | Exactly - but it's good to see a bit where we're aiming. As you say, first thing is to be sure of having a working DevStack, and understanding that (up to a point!) | 15:43 |
| psargent | ok...i'm sure everything will come together!!! | 15:44 |
| psargent | Yes...I'll start with 2 VMs on the same network | 15:45 |
| psargent | creating 2 VMs on the same network | 15:45 |
| neiljerram | Yes, 2 VMs, check you know how to ssh into them, check if 1 VM can ping the other - that kind of thing | 15:46 |
| psargent | ok..got it! | 15:46 |
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| psargent | i'll follow the DevStack guide and see what I can create! | 15:48 |
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| neiljerram | OK. Shall we plan to speak again at about this time on Friday? | 15:48 |
| psargent | yes! sounds good !! | 15:49 |
| neiljerram | It's fine to ping me at any other time before then, but good to have a plan in mind too. | 15:49 |
| psargent | ok.....will ping you if run into something major...but will plan to meet on Friday at the same time | 15:50 |
| neiljerram | Great; best wishes! | 15:51 |
| psargent | Thanks ! Best wishes to you too, Have a good evening! | 15:51 |
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