Monday, 2015-12-07

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mahatichello, who is here for Outreachy kickoff meeting?16:30
neiljerramhi16:30
enthurohinihii16:30
sonali5hiii16:30
amrith./16:30
psargenthello16:30
amritham also on an oslo meeting at this time.16:31
mahatichi everyone!16:31
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vkmco/16:31
katyaferventhi16:31
mahaticwelcome!16:31
mahaticTopic: Expectations for interns16:31
mahaticfirstly Congratulations on the acceptance!16:32
psargentThank you !!16:32
enthurohinithankyou16:32
Eva-iHey16:32
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sonali5thanks16:32
kzaitsev_mbo/16:32
vkmccongrats all :)16:32
Akanksha08Hi16:32
sonali5thanks vkmc :)16:32
Akanksha08Thanks!16:32
enthurohinithanks vkmc16:32
mahaticI hope by now you are comfortable with IRC.mailing lists and the environment16:33
Akanksha08yes :)16:33
enthurohiniyes16:33
sonali5yes16:33
psargentyes16:33
mahaticif you haven't already, do subscribe to the openstack-dev mailing list16:33
mahaticyou can have a filter to your own specific project16:33
mahaticAlso, don't forget to hangout on #outreachy on gimpnet16:34
Eva-iOkay, I still haven't subscribed to mailing list, but I'll do. Personally I don't like them. =)16:34
sonali5mahatic how can we filter for our project16:34
Eva-imailing lists16:34
psargenti haven't subscribed to the mailing yet but I will16:35
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enthurohiniI will too16:35
mahaticEva-i: :) but there maybe updates, discussions that could be helpful16:35
njirapam here too..16:35
vkmc#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists16:35
* amrith wonders who the seven accepted OPW people are, and what projects they'll be working on.16:35
amrithregardless, congratulations to all of you.16:36
amrithI know sonali5, don't know the rest, I don't think.16:36
sonali5thanks amrith :)16:36
vkmcall the OpenStack mailing lists are there, but perhaps the most importants for you now are openstack (low-traffic), openstack-dev (high-traffic) and openstack-internships16:36
mahaticsonali5: depends on your mail client :) but in general, project specific mails have [<project-name>] - for instance for swift it is [swift]; neutron [neutron] is appended16:36
mahaticthe one16:36
mahatic(sorry  that was typo)16:37
vkmc#link https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/2015/DecemberMarch#OpenStack16:37
mahaticthe ones with [all] is addressed for everyone and not project specific16:37
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vkmcamrith, accepted participants and projects ^16:37
amrithvkmc, thx16:37
vkmcamrith, np :) just saw that your mentee was assigned to me, I'll ask the coordinators to correct that16:38
amrithvkmc, I was going to ask why I got invited here ;)16:38
amrithbut you answered the question.16:38
vkmcamrith, +116:39
mahaticAs part of the internship - interns are expected to blog every two weeks16:39
mahaticblogging more often is more than welcome :)16:39
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enthurohiniok :)16:39
psargentok :-)16:40
sonali5ok :)16:40
amrithmahatic, where do you expect them to blog; if sonali5 wants to blog on my company's blog, I can arrange that.16:40
amrithjust need to know.16:40
mahaticamrith: can use any blogging platform16:40
mahaticwordpress, dreamwidth, blogspot16:41
vkmctumblr, wordpress, github blogs are some of the alternatives16:41
njirapok..16:41
vkmc^ yeah16:41
vkmc:)16:41
amrithso you mean personal blogs.16:41
amrithok16:41
vkmcamrith, that would awesome! if you see that some of your mentee's blog posts are useful for Tesora's blog, feel free to add those16:41
vkmcit's all about sharing after all16:42
enthurohiniamrith, here is https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/2015/DecemberMarch/InfoForOutreachPlanet list of blogs16:42
amrithhappy to, sonali5 let's put that on the list of things ...16:42
Eva-iShould we try to make our blog posts helpful for future openstack developers?16:42
mahaticsince almost all of the interns work remote, it is a great way to keep track of progress. We expect to learn what you're working on, your insights into the program in general and more16:42
sonali5sure amrith16:42
mahaticenthurohini: thank you for that link!16:43
Akanksha08vkmc, I am still unsure about my project. Any update on that?16:43
vkmcEva-i, yes please16:43
enthurohininp :)16:43
mahaticplease follow the instructions on your agreement email (or I could forward the steps later) that will help your blog linked to OutreachPlanet16:43
vkmcAkanksha08, we will address that after the meeting, we need to set a meeting with your mentor16:44
Akanksha08okay16:44
elmikoo/16:45
Eva-iIf I'll just describe everything I do in my project, I guess it will not be very useful for other people.16:45
Akanksha08mahatic, already followed but yet to publish a post :(16:45
mahaticsetting up znc would be great, but if not - check openstack logs to get an update on things ( or discussions that happened when you were away)16:46
vkmc#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/16:46
vkmclogs for all logged openstack-* channels16:46
mahaticEva-i: you could describe what's going on. Additionally you could blog more often to include tips or other info you think will be useful for other devs16:46
neiljerramznc?  Don't think I know that.16:47
mahaticneiljerram: IRC bouncer16:47
mahaticoh of course any other choice of bouncer you see fit :)16:47
mahatichttp://wiki.znc.in/Installation16:47
neiljerramAh, perhaps that's what I need to solve the problem of multiple nicks.16:48
Eva-iI think to use vnc it's preferrable to have a machine that is always on.16:48
mahaticMoving on; Topic - Expectations for mentors16:49
Eva-iIn a cloud, for example16:49
mahaticFirstly, Thank for choosing to participate!16:49
mahaticI hope by now you must be a little familiar with the assigned interns16:50
neil_bbA little, yes16:50
amrithditto, a little.16:50
mahaticif there isn't a timeline yet for your project, we strongly suggest you to have a discussion with the intern and chalk out a timeline - it will help interns to get an idea on the areas of work inside the project16:51
mahaticand so they could focus on them16:51
mahaticokay :)16:51
amrithI have a question about the project and timelines.16:51
neil_bbEspecially with holidays approaching fast16:51
mahaticamrith: shoot16:52
mahaticneil_bb: yeah!16:52
amrithif the needs of a project have changed since the proposal and it is unlikely that the project will accept the work in the originally contemplated area, what do we do?16:52
amrithIs a change of project allowed?16:52
mahaticneil_bb: oh your multiple nicks - I think you could set that in your irc client (preferred alternatives)16:52
amrithalso, given the mitaka timeline, it may be too late for the interns to submit bp's in time to get included soon.16:52
amrithvkmc knows this is the case, at least in Trove.16:53
mahaticamrith: sure, it is16:53
neil_bbThx16:53
amrithI don't think it is reasonable to expect a completed bp in the next 4 days, which is the m-1 cutoff.16:53
vkmcI do yeah, we don't have much time left and writing an spec can take some time16:53
amrithso, given that the intern has likely not started on this yet, what is the recommendation?16:53
amrithsonali5, ^^16:53
mahaticamrith: Make sure to have a timeline and also the scope of the project; as in something that is agreed upon within the community16:53
neil_bbIs success defined only as 'code merged'? I hope not.16:54
sonali5yes amrith following on that16:54
neil_bb(sorry I should know already)16:54
vkmcneil_bb, not at all, I'd say it's defined as how much the intern learned and if they can continue working with the community after the internship16:54
amrithneil_bb, good q. I don't know so I would like an answer.16:54
mahaticneil_bb: Ideally we would like code merged. But no, that in itself is not defined as success :)16:55
vkmcsometimes plans doesn't go as expected because of discussions/reviews taking more time than expected16:55
neil_bbSounds good, thanks16:55
mahaticso long as the mentor and intern feels they have learned things and are able to help the project move forward - that'd be success too16:55
mahaticto help define success is why a timeline is good. So that it could act as measurable progress16:56
vkmc+1 mahatic16:56
amrithWhat is the overall timeframe for the project/internship?16:56
elmikoyea, this may be an issue for the sahara project as well (re: spec/bps)16:56
vkmcDec 7th til March 7th16:57
neil_bbVery much agreed. It's really hard to get non-trivial code into Neutron in one cycle16:57
mahaticDec 7th  - Mar7 is the internship duration16:57
amriththanks vkmc, mahatic16:57
vkmcand then we encourage interns to join the OpenStack Summit16:57
njirapis there an official december holiday break for the openstack community16:57
vkmcfor further learning :)16:57
amrithdoes outreachy internship directly entitle interns to travel assistance to summit vkmc?16:57
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amrithtravel (such as from India) including lodging can be pricey.16:58
vkmcamrith, they have to go through the travel support selection process as every other contributor, but they status is taken into account when the selection is made16:58
mahaticneil_bb: if you encounter review process delay or any other process related hindrance, you could advise the intern to pick a small bug in the meantime16:58
amrithvkmc, thx16:58
neil_bbYes, sure16:58
mahaticnjirap: no official break. You can coordinate with you rmentor on the holidays and work around16:59
njirapok mahatic..16:59
mahaticTopic: Open Discussion17:00
mahaticAnything else?17:00
mahaticPlease feel free to ping me or vkmc on irc for further questions/concerns17:00
amrithis there a periodic checkpoint with the group?17:00
mahaticoh yes17:00
neil_bbAre we all done now on any formalities that are needed?17:00
amrithto make sure that we (the mentors) are doing their bit.17:00
mahaticgood question17:00
neil_bbPaperwork etc.17:00
sonali5what needs to be done regarding the travel allowance money17:00
vkmcyup!17:00
vkmcsonali5, when the time comes we will issue some directions17:01
njirapi have an issue with launchpad today17:01
mahaticso there is a midway evaluation - i.e. the payments are based on the interns being in good standing with their mentors17:01
vkmcright now the travel support application period haven't started17:01
sonali5ok vkmc thanks :)17:01
katyaferventmahatic, is this channel is the main one for communication regarding outreachy?17:02
vkmckatyafervent, it is for OpenStack17:02
katyaferventvkmc, ok, thanks :)17:02
mahaticapart from that - the mentor/intern can reach out to the admins should there be any concern that you feel cannot be resolved between the mentor and intern17:02
mahatickatyafervent: join #outreachy on gimpnet as well17:02
Eva-iBy travel support do you mean Outreachy one or OpenStack one?17:02
Eva-iOr both?17:03
vkmcEva-i, OpenStack one, Outreachy has a different process17:03
mahaticand outreachy-interns-december2015@gnome.org for further communications17:03
sonali5outreachy one17:03
vkmcEva-i, it's a fixed amount and you can use it for any conference you think will be helpful for your internship17:03
vkmcsonali5, ^17:03
vkmc#link https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/TravelAllowance17:04
vkmcmore information here ^17:04
vkmcping me if you have any doubt17:04
sonali5thanks vkmc :)17:04
vkmcnp17:04
mahaticI think that's all we have - unless there are more questions17:04
vkmcI have just a recommendation for mentors and mentees17:04
mahaticsure17:05
amrithvkmc, someone should get OpenStack Summit added to https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/TravelAllowance17:05
vkmctry to establish a weekly one on one to chat about any update, question or concern17:05
vkmcamrith, good point, thanks17:05
vkmcthe amount of communication that goes between mentor and mentee is free for you to decide17:06
neil_bbThanks, good idea17:06
mahaticyeah - meetings with interns, whichever way suits you best - IRC, skype, phone etc17:06
vkmcthis internship does not expect mentees to require much hand holding: we want our interns to be proactive and independent because that's the way everybody usually work on open source communities17:07
vkmcbut having a meeting with mentors is always a good idea to unstuck if you feel blocked and to get pointers on where to continue17:07
Eva-iI have a meeting with vkmc 2 times a week, for example.17:07
Eva-i*meetings17:07
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vkmcyup, our meetings last between 30min to 1 hour and we talk about everything we think that need to be discussed: blockers, Eva-i's progress, next steps17:08
mahaticgreat17:08
psargentthanks, good idea!17:08
kzaitsev_mbhey katyafervent and I had something to share17:08
vkmckzaitsev_mb, sure, floor is yours17:09
kzaitsev_mbmost likely we're going to be mentoring enthurohini together more or less, since katyafervent is going on maternity leave before newy year =)17:09
kzaitsev_mbso she'll have some time before NY, but most likely won't have enought time after NY =)17:10
mahatickzaitsev_mb: would you be available throughout the internship period?17:10
kzaitsev_mbsure, I will17:10
vkmckzaitsev_mb, katyafervent, that's great news :D feel free to share your mentorship experience17:10
katyaferventvkmc, should we change mentor in outreachy.gnome.org ?17:11
vkmcfor all the mentees, you are encouraged to get support from the community working on your selected project as well, not only your mentors17:11
mahatickzaitsev_mb: then you could be the primary mentor/point of contact and katyafervent could guide as well whenever she(/he) is available17:11
kzaitsev_mbthe question we have is more on the procedural side of the things — should katyafervent or I write some letter or click some buttons on the outreachy site? =)17:12
vkmckatyafervent, I'll ask Outreachy coordinators to put both of your names, if that is ok for you17:13
katyaferventcool, thanks :)17:14
vkmckzaitsev_mb, good question17:14
kzaitsev_mbok, for me =) Kate also says she's ok with that )17:14
vkmckzaitsev_mb, as mahatic mentioned, maybe you could be the primary point of contact17:14
amrithI think it would be very good (more like mandatory) that all participants actively join the respective project's channel on IRC and participate in the converstaions there, the meeting, etc.. Timing is likey a challenge though given that most meetings seem to have US friendly times ;(17:15
enthurohinikzaitsev_mb, katyafervent, thanks a lot for your activeness as a mentor. Feeling happy to have you guyz. Congrats katyafervent17:16
mahaticamrith: yup. That's the way we expect the internship to go. Interns getting involved with the community and the open source development17:16
amrithfor example, Trove, 1800 UTC is 2330 in India ;)17:16
vkmcamrith, +117:16
amrithbut, sleep as I'm often reminded is highly overrated.17:16
neil_bbI'm going to lose connectivity now, but will check logs later for any more info17:16
psargentneil_bb: I'll ping you tommorrow17:17
neil_bbpsargent: i'll email re when we can touch base17:17
sonali5ok amrith thanks for the information i guess that is much needed :)17:17
psargentneill_bb sounds good17:17
neil_bbpsargent : or IRC ping is good too!17:17
vkmchave to head out for now, thanks all o/ and feel free to reach me in any time17:18
mahaticokay, that's all I think17:18
enthurohinivkmc, mahatic. thanks17:19
elmikovkmc: are we gonna talk sometime?17:19
amriththanks!17:19
mahaticthanks for attending everyone! and We hope you have a great experience with the internship programme!17:19
psargentthank you vkmc, mahatic!17:19
Eva-iI wanted to shift my sleeping regime to a normal one, but since my current sleeping regime seems to fit with openstack development, I decided to keep it. =)17:19
enthurohinithanks everyone17:19
sonali5thank you mahatic , vkmc17:19
mahatic*program17:19
Eva-ithanks17:19
psargentthanks everyone!17:19
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Akanksha08Thanks everyone!17:20
vkmcelmiko, yeah, Akanksha08 will reach you to start talking about the project17:21
vkmcthen I'd like to have a chat with both of you if you have any doubt on how to continue17:21
elmikovkmc: ok, i think we'll need to as the previous project plan might not work out now17:21
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vkmcelmiko, no worries, we can figure something out :)17:23
elmikovkmc: yup =)17:23
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notmynameI got 2 emails about the meeting today. but neither said where the meeting is17:44
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vkmcnotmyname, that is a good point18:04
vkmcnotmyname, sorry for that18:04
vkmcnotmyname, we are having the second meeting at 9.00pm UTC in this channel18:04
notmynamewhere's the first meeting?18:07
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vkmcnotmyname, it was here at 4.30pm UTC18:10
vkmc#openstack-opw18:10
Eva-ihm, I got no emails about this meeting, but fortunately I had this chatroom open18:10
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Eva-i*opened18:11
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notmynamevkmc: oh, ok. thanks18:18
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mahaticnotmyname: the email asked to drop by at #openstack-opw18:22
notmynamemahatic: yours did ;-)18:23
mahaticnotmyname: one of the two emails i suppose ;)18:23
vkmcmine didn't18:24
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vkmchey hey21:00
notmynamehello21:00
vkmcwho is here for the (second) kickoff meeting for Outreachy?21:00
ZyricMe. Hello everyone :)21:01
* notmyname .21:01
vkmccool cool21:01
vkmcwe are not going to be many people for this shift21:01
notmyname"everyone" seems to be just us on this one swift project ;-)21:01
vkmchaha yes yes21:02
vkmcso it's going to be a really short meeting probably21:02
notmynameyay. my favorite kind ;-)21:02
ZyricAh I was looking forward to connecting with a few of the others. Will have to get in touch another way then.21:02
ZyricAll good21:02
vkmcyeah, we will need to find a way to get everybody together21:03
vkmcthis round we got several different timezones21:03
vkmcok, so21:03
vkmc#topic General information for mentees21:03
vkmcZyric, you are the only one attending this meeting that qualifies as mentee21:03
ZyricRighto21:04
vkmcso... there are a few things you might want to check out21:04
vkmc1. we expect interns to blog about their progress more or less one time every 2 weeks21:04
vkmcany blogging platform you prefer is good for that... say, wordpress, tumblr, blogspot21:04
vkmcif you want, I can give you a few examples for inspiration :)21:05
notmynameshe's already got it all set up :-)21:05
ZyricSweet. Yeah I got a bit carried away and have my own domain using Ghost now21:05
vkmcawesome!21:05
vkmcthat's great to hear21:05
vkmc2. you might want to subscribe to the community mailing lists21:06
vkmcyou probably know by now that we use IRC as the main communication medium, but the mailing list is also very important21:06
ZyricNice. That's something I don't have set up yet.21:06
vkmchttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists21:06
ZyricThank you21:06
vkmcthere you have the listing of the community mailing lists21:07
notmynameit's exceptionally high volume21:07
notmynameup to a couple hundred per day21:07
vkmcperhaps right now you would only need... openstack (low-traffic), openstack-dev (high-traffic) and openstack-internships21:07
vkmcyeah, that's openstack-dev21:07
notmynameoh, there's an -internships one?21:07
notmynameI don't think i'm on that one21:07
vkmcyes there is one :)21:08
vkmcsuper low traffic though21:08
vkmchttp://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-internships21:08
vkmcis not in that wiki though21:08
notmynameoh maybe I am. the link is purple21:08
vkmcmental note... add it to the wiki21:08
vkmccool!21:09
vkmcoh... and maybe the first thing I should said21:09
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vkmc3. congratulations for being selected for this round of Outreachy internships and welcome :D21:10
vkmclet's move on now to mentors21:10
vkmc#topic General information from mentors21:10
vkmcnotmyname is the only one present... you probably know most of this things but anyways21:11
vkmc1. thanks a lot for joining this round as a mentor21:11
vkmcwithout mentors this internship is not possible :D21:11
notmynamehappy to help. I just think it's really cool people want to get involved ;-)21:12
vkmc:)21:12
vkmc2. make sure to establish a defined timeline for the project so you can keep track of things21:12
vkmcmore in your case that you are so far away... time-zone wise21:12
vkmcwe don't consider "merged-code" as "success", but is still important that you can accomplish your goals21:13
notmynameactually, it's a lot easier this time21:13
vkmcreally? that's great to hear21:13
notmynamewe're only 3 hours different21:13
notmynamejust different days ;-)21:13
Zyric:)21:13
notmynamemuch easier than SF and Bangalore21:13
vkmccool!21:13
ZyricI have a priliminary project proposal but I'd like to confirm dates and goals with notmyname and we can organise that this week/today hopefully21:14
notmynameZyric has already taken the initiative and sent me an email with a bunch of logistics stuff covered21:14
notmynameyeah. replying is what I'm doing right after this meeting21:14
vkmcwell done Zyric21:14
ZyricNice, thank you21:14
vkmcnotmyname seems you have all covered then :)21:14
ZyricAwesome. I'm delighted to have been accepted and have this opportunity, huge thank you to notmyname for choosing to help me through my internship.21:14
notmynameZyric: first step, until others tuff gets hashed out, get patch 241978 squared away :-)21:15
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notmynamepatch 24197821:15
patchbotnotmyname: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241978/ - Add support for storage policies to have more than...21:15
ZyricWill do21:15
notmynamethanks patchbot21:15
vkmcso the next steps is working on that timeline... and Zyric to start working on getting involved with Swift community (notmyname will be able to help on that), Zyric to get her hands on bugs fixing and reviews, and research to start working on the project21:15
notmynameyup21:15
vkmcawesome21:15
vkmcZyric, feel free to do your own research and pick your own tasks as you see fit21:16
notmynamevkmc: aside, if you don't like patchbot or find it annoying, I can make it leave21:16
vkmchaha no it's ok, it's very useful to have it here21:16
notmynameok21:16
vkmcand the last point21:17
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vkmc3. try to establish a weekly one on one meeting to talk about any blocker that could arise, to catch up on progress and to talk about any other thing21:18
vkmcthis is not mandatory21:18
notmynamedefinitely a good thing21:18
vkmcmentors and mentees are free to choose how they manage their communication21:18
vkmcbut I found myself that having a quick one on one is very useful21:18
ZyricYeah me too, think that's on the list of things to organise :)21:19
vkmccool :)21:19
vkmcand I think that's pretty much it21:19
vkmc#topic Open discussion21:19
ZyricThanks vkmc! Hope we get more opportunities to connect with the other interns21:19
notmynamevkmc: are we squared away on logistics? do you have all the paperwork/forms you need from us?21:19
vkmcZyric, I hope that too!21:19
notmynamevkmc: Zyric: are either of you going to LCA?21:19
ZyricWhat is LCA?21:20
notmynameZyric: you're moving, I think, during then. so I'm guessing no21:20
notmynamelinux conf australia21:20
notmynamevery very good tech conference21:20
vkmcnotmyname, it's all done for now! in the midterm we will get in touch with you to ask you how is the internship going, but that is going to happen four weeks from now, more or less21:20
notmynamehttp://lca2016.linux.org.au21:20
ZyricAh, cool21:20
vkmc+1 nice, that sounds like fun21:20
vkmcI'm not going though, I'm quite far away :(21:21
notmynameme too, but I'm goign ;-)21:21
ZyricAs notmyname said, I'll be moving then so unable to attend sadly.21:21
notmynamethere were several outreachy people there last year21:21
notmynameZyric: ah, too bad. it's one that would defintiely be worth the travel money21:21
notmynamebut there are several other possibilities, too, of course21:22
vkmctalking about conferences21:22
ZyricSure, will keep an eye out! Keen to attend an open source conference of some kind21:22
vkmcZyric, we will let you know, but there is a travel support program that you would be encouraged to apply to attend the OpenStack Summit21:22
vkmcnext one is in Austin21:22
vkmc:)21:23
vkmcit's not yet open, but we will let you know when it is through the mailing list (-internships) or in this channel21:23
ZyricAwesome! Very keen indeed, will sort out mailing list stuff after this then21:23
vkmccoolio21:23
notmynameto be explicit, the summit travel support program is completely separate form the outreachy allowance21:24
vkmcgood point, it is21:24
vkmchere is more information about the Outreachy allowance https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/TravelAllowance21:24
notmynameand while participation in outreachy is definitely a factor when the travel support grants are considered, being in outreachy isn't a guarantee of travel support.21:24
notmynamebut AFAIK all the outreachy participants who applied got it ;-)21:25
ZyricRight, will keep that in mind. Thanks.21:25
vkmcyeah :)21:25
vkmcwell, I think that's all...21:26
vkmcplease, let me know if you have any doubt21:26
vkmcreach me at any time21:26
vkmcI'm online most of the time... and if I'm not, I'll be back shortly probably :D21:26
ZyricCool, thanks for all the information vkmc :)21:26
vkmccool21:27
notmynameZyric: did you get IRC connectivity figured out? are you using a bouncer yet?21:27
ZyricNo, I've been doing things outside the past week since we're having a lovely NZ summer! I'll do that today21:27
notmynameok21:27
vkmcok, so :) let's call this a meeting21:28
vkmcthanks a lot for joining21:28
vkmcI'll forward the logs (and the logs from the other meeting) to all the mentors/mentees21:28
vkmcZyric, oh, and if you want to know who else is participating and where are they based so you sync up to meet them, here you can find some information https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/2015/DecemberMarch#OpenStack21:30
ZyricNeat, thank you21:31
vkmcsweet!21:36
vkmcok, talk to you all o/21:36
vkmcthanks again for joining21:37
vkmcmeeting over :D21:37
notmynameZyric: since we're both up right now and thinking about stuff, how about a skype/g+/facetime/whatever chat?21:38
notmynamewhere "stuff" == outreachy21:39
ZyricSounds good, I have skype and Google hangouts installed and either works for me.21:39
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