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| shewless | Hello. I have a 10 compute node mitaka environment and if I restart the networking services on my controller the controller system load goes bonkers for like 20 minutes... Looks like neutron-openvswitch-agent and neutron processes are just going nuts | 13:59 |
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| shewless | has anyone seen this before? Don't have an environment where I can continously restart these services to test... my staging environment is much smaller and does not show the problem | 14:00 |
| shewless | During the "bonkers" phase I can launch instances but cloud-init and other networking stuff just doesn't work | 14:00 |
| shewless | and all I can do is wait for 20 minutes | 14:01 |
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| mdorman | shewless: roughly how many neutron ports do you have? we’ve run into a scale issue where when ovs agents reconnect to neutron-server, they to a complete flush and rebuild of all security group rules for _every_ port. we have some providers networks with 1000+ ports, and if there’s a rmq event that causes all the agents to reconnect at once, it causes a big avalanche of that stuff. | 16:42 |
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| shewless | mdorman: sounds like what I was experiencing. I'd guess we have about 1500-2000 ports. I bet there is a command I can run to konw for sure isn't there? :) | 17:31 |
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| shewless | mdorman: were you able to mitigate this issue? load balance rmq or add a backoff or maybe just scale neutron? | 17:34 |
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| mdorman | shewless: gotta run right now but i have some more info i can give you later today. please ping me if you don’t hear from me | 18:41 |
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| shewless | mdorman: sounds good. thanks! | 19:31 |
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| yankcrime | shewless: neutron port-list | wc -l | 22:46 |
| yankcrime | when you see the issue, what's the status of other agents across your compute and network nodes (if you have any)? | 22:47 |
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| yankcrime | when neutron-server is swamped, quite often you'll see agents 'die' and if that happens to an openvswitch-neutron-agent then that's extremely problematic as stuff like port updates, additions, deletions, etc. won't happen | 23:09 |
| yankcrime | in our case they don't always come back, and restarting that agent causes an outage as all the flows are recreated | 23:10 |
| yankcrime | (we're still on kilo for some bits, unfortunately - i believe that's been addressed as of liberty) | 23:10 |
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