Tuesday, 2017-02-07

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mihalis68operators meet ups team meeting in 4 minutes14:56
fifieldtwoooo14:56
mihalis68tom it looks like you have some bad news to impart :|14:56
fifieldtI think that's not my colour :)14:57
mihalis68oh14:57
mihalis68my bad14:57
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mihalis68I'm guessing mrhillsman?14:58
mrhillsmanhey14:58
mrhillsmanit is my color :(14:59
mihalis68who would like to chair?14:59
mrhillsmani can go for it14:59
mihalis68works for me14:59
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fifieldtcool14:59
mihalis68time!15:00
mrhillsman#startmeeting Ops Meetup Team15:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Feb  7 15:00:18 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mrhillsman. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team'15:00
izaakkHello everyone!15:00
mihalis68happy yourtimeofday15:00
mrhillsman#topic Review last week items15:00
mrhillsmanguess i did something wrong hehe15:01
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emccormickgood morning15:01
mihalis68I had an action to mail the list that we decided on the intel proposal, however mrhillsman it appears you have news on this?15:01
shintarohi15:01
mrhillsmanWelcome everyone and good morning!15:01
mihalis68(I did my action, for)15:01
mihalis68ftr15:01
mrhillsman#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team15:02
raddaouio/15:02
mrhillsmanAgenda can be found at the link15:02
VWo/15:02
mihalis68come on man, out with it :)15:02
fifieldto/15:02
mrhillsmanand last weeks nodes and such15:02
mrhillsman#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2017/ops_meetup_team.2017-01-31-15.03.html15:03
mrhillsmani did my action as well :)15:03
fifieldtindeed15:03
mihalis68what is the intel news?15:03
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mrhillsmangood news first lol15:04
mrhillsman#topic Milan15:04
fifieldtwe have registrants!15:04
fifieldt56 so far15:04
mrhillsman!!15:04
mihalis68excellent15:04
openstackmrhillsman: Error: "!" is not a valid command.15:04
fifieldtand they look like good people :)15:04
mperazolwhat's the deadline for registration?15:04
mihalis68naturally!15:04
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shintarogreat15:04
mcuniettihi all15:04
mihalis68hi15:04
mrhillsmanhey15:04
fifieldtyay mcunietti !15:04
mcuniettisorry for missing the last meeting15:05
mcuniettiI was on a business travel15:05
mcuniettitotally missed it15:05
mrhillsmanall good15:05
mrhillsmanwe added information on the etherpad for VISAs as well15:05
mcuniettido we have an agenda set?15:05
emccormickhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team15:05
mrhillsmanagenda has not been decided on yet15:05
mrhillsmanif you talkign about milan15:06
emccormickoh for the meetup15:06
mcuniettiyeah, for VISAs we're defining some process to avoid sink under paper from all around the world (thanks Saverio :-)15:06
mrhillsmanindeed zioproto thank you15:06
fifieldtthank you so much for that15:06
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mihalis68agreed closing date for agenda submissions was 2/13 as per last week's meeting15:06
mrhillsmanso we have to decide on registration deadline yes?15:07
mihalis68i.e. next monday15:07
mcuniettihow many registered ppl?15:07
mihalis685615:07
mcuniettiuhm expected more15:07
mihalis68is there a need for a registration deadline?15:07
mrhillsman#agreed close agenda submissions on 2/1315:07
mcunietti#mihalis68 +115:07
mcuniettii don't agree :-)15:07
mrhillsmanmcunietti surely there will be more15:07
shintarothere might be last minute registration15:08
fifieldtmihalis68: caterers normally ave a cut-off15:08
mihalis68I suppose there may be a catering numbers cut-off15:08
mihalis68but I don't recall the food EVER running out at these things! :)15:08
emccormickusually those numbers have a little play though, yes?15:08
fifieldtI've seen a number like 2 weeks used before15:08
mrhillsmanmcunietti do we have a deadline from caterer15:08
mihalis68In Barcelona they appeared to be handing out double-sized lunches at the grab and go tables!15:08
emccormickyou order catering for like 150-175 or 175 - 20015:08
mrhillsmanif ^ is not the process15:09
mrhillsmani assume we set an attendance, you order food, done15:09
zioprotohello I am here now15:09
mihalis68hello15:09
emccormickmcunietti: Does the caterer ask for an exact number or a range?15:10
mcuniettiI am sorry but so far only 56 people registered, you want to put a deadline on 2/13 and we're talking about having the catering manage up to 175-200? I'm lost15:10
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mihalis68the 2/13 deadline is for the agenda items15:11
mihalis68nothing to do with food or numbers15:11
mcuniettiaaah oups ok15:11
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mihalis68How about March 1st for catering numbers?15:11
mcuniettiok15:11
VWthat seems reasonable15:11
mihalis68here's the ether pad link again #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MIL-ops-meetup15:11
mperazolthat way we can advertise things more and try to get more to attend15:11
mcuniettii still have an issue: no sponsor so far. May be Cloudbase will step up15:11
mcuniettiand Bloomberg15:12
mihalis68Bloomberg is offering to do signs and badges, remember?15:12
mrhillsmanmcunietti we set the limit to 130 iirc15:12
mihalis68we've agreed to up to 1000 euro on that15:12
mihalis68I think we have an email chain about that with you, me tom and kevin fleming from my employer15:13
mcuniettiyes mihalis68, I wrote it15:13
fifieldtbut we need still around EUR500015:13
mcuniettiyep15:13
mihalis68maybe I misunderstood15:13
fifieldtfor food15:13
mcuniettiright15:13
mrhillsmanalright, so if everyone can reach out to some of the folks attending to sponsor that would be great15:14
mihalis68so we need another call for sponsors for this15:14
zioprotomcunietti, I will go at marking office at SWITCH when we finish the IRC meeting, I see what I can do.15:14
fifieldtVenue: EnterIT; Printing: Bloomberg; Evening Event: Registration Proceeds; Food: ___BLANK!____15:14
mcuniettithanks Saverio15:14
mrhillsmani will see if intel can help with that in light of the change with fall meetup15:14
fifieldtdoesn't have to be an individual company - more sharing more better :)15:14
VWooh - I missed something15:14
mihalis68maybe we should aim for 5 1k euro sponsors?15:14
mcuniettiCloudbase will provide an answer in one or two days for food sponsorship15:14
VWsomebody fill me in on the fall change at some point15:14
mrhillsman#action melvin check with intel for food sponsorship15:15
mihalis68vw melvin wanted to do good news first15:15
mihalis68but the agenda is ... telling15:15
mihalis68#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team15:15
mrhillsman#action zioproto check with switch on sponsorship15:15
VWyeah - trying to listen to a track chair video meeting and do this at the same time15:16
VWmissed that :)15:16
zioproto1Keuro is a possible goal for SWITCH sponsorship. mihalis68 I think 5 sponspors for 1K is reasonable15:16
mihalis68I would be happy to mail the list with a request for co-sponsors. that amount is reasonably easy to get approval. In my company sponsorship was approved in 2 email conversations at that level15:16
mihalis68shall I?15:17
mcunietti#action mcunietti check with Cloudbase with lunch sponsorship15:17
mcuniettigo mihalis68!! :-)15:17
mihalis68#action mihalis68 to email operators mailing list for additional co-sponsors at 1k euro each covering catering15:18
mcuniettiare the talks for the sponsors already set? because I promised Cloudbase some spotlight15:19
mrhillsmanalright, anything else here?15:19
mihalis68sponsors need to propose talks just like anyone else15:19
mrhillsmanwe do not do "talks" for sponsors15:19
mrhillsmanwhat mihalis68 said15:20
mihalis68they don't get reserved slots, sorry, that should be clear15:20
mihalis68but they can absolutely get quality time, it just needs to be within the spirit15:20
VWwe probably limit "talks" in general, though.  We want open discussion more than presentation15:20
mrhillsman^15:20
mihalis68that's true too15:21
mcuniettiok noproblem, it's the first time I am the meetup organizer :-)15:21
mihalis68for the NYC event, several of my team attended. We put sessions we wanted on the proposed list and +1ed those and others we liked. that was our only "privilege" for hosting15:22
mrhillsmanalright, anything more on Milan?15:22
mihalis68does anyone have comment on how the agenda planning is going?15:22
mrhillsmanwe have all the sessions iirc in the google sheet15:22
emccormickDo we need another nudge for agenda submissions?15:22
mrhillsmandefinitely15:23
mihalis68I note that matt seems to be awol a lot. He was the benevolent dictator for this but recently changed jobs15:23
emccormickespecially since we are down to a week15:23
mrhillsmanwant to take care of that emccormick ?15:23
emccormicksure15:23
mihalis68we may need a new dictator15:23
mrhillsmanmaybe a different "voice" will get more folks15:23
fifieldtsubmissions have been open for a while15:23
mihalis68#action mccormick to email the list for final submissions15:23
fifieldtis it time to start looking at a draft agenda?15:23
mihalis68#action emccormick to email the list for final submissions15:23
mrhillsman#action emccormick email list about session submissions15:24
fifieldtgiven we need toi write abstracts and find moderators :)15:24
mihalis68sorry, autocorrect did that15:24
mrhillsmani reached out to the moderators and got 4 responses so far15:24
emccormickno worries :)15:24
mrhillsmanmyself being a moderator makes 515:24
mihalis68more than a month to the event, not in bad shape at all15:24
mrhillsmanand i assume you who are here who are going and are on the list will or will be on the list soon15:24
mihalis68(better than NYC was 1 month out!)15:24
mihalis68unfortunately I can't make it15:25
mrhillsmanyeah i know :(15:25
zioprotomrhillsman, you counted me as moderator, right ?15:25
mrhillsmani sent email to everyone on the list15:25
mrhillsmanzioproto if you did not respond it's ok15:25
mihalis68so perhaps now move on?15:25
mrhillsmani assume you will be moderator :)15:25
mrhillsmando we want to still start to pull the agenda together nevertheless?15:26
mrhillsmanwe can start possibly dropping what we do have in slots15:26
fifieldt+115:26
mihalis68+115:26
mrhillsmananyone want to take lead on that?15:26
izaakkVote count needs to be updated in google sheet15:26
VW115:26
VW+ even :)15:26
shintarocontainer session overlap should be fixed15:27
mrhillsmanagreed15:27
shintarowe have like 4 container proposal15:27
mrhillsmaneveryone ok with containers being15:27
mrhillsmancontainers on openstack15:27
mrhillsmanand openstack in containers15:27
emccormick+115:28
VWthat's the two basic buckets15:28
mrhillsmani think we really only need the 215:28
shintaro+115:28
mrhillsmanok cool15:28
mperazolyep15:28
mrhillsman#agreed container sessions are containers on openstack and openstack in containers15:28
mihalis68+1 agreed15:28
mihalis68control plane vs. data plane15:28
izaakk+115:28
mrhillsmanwho wants to start shaping up agenda?15:29
zioprotoI am doing a lot of work with Kolla, I volunteer to moderate openstack in containers :)15:29
mrhillsmanthx zioproto :)15:29
mihalis68agenda shaper should be an attendee IMO15:29
mrhillsmanindeed15:29
izaakkmrhillsman: o/15:29
mrhillsmani assume matt would have been it15:29
mihalis68we're suffering from matt jarvis dropping out15:30
mihalis68I think he expected to do it15:30
mrhillsman#action izaakk to start shaping agenda15:30
mrhillsmanmoving on?15:30
mihalis68please15:30
mrhillsmananything else on agenda?15:30
mrhillsmanok15:30
mrhillsman#topic Fall meetup15:30
mrhillsmani do not know if i am doing that right hehe since i do not see a topic change15:31
mrhillsmanbut anyways15:31
mrhillsmani got an email from intel stating they will not be able to host the meetup15:31
mrhillsmanso we need to reach back out to the mailing list for a taker15:31
mrhillsmani can do that15:31
mihalis68I worried about that after hearing carol was leaving intel15:31
mrhillsmanany questions?15:31
zioprotomrhillsman, please avoid US then , I cannot travel there anymore !15:31
mihalis68any reasons given?15:31
mrhillsmanwell, we had a point of contact15:31
mrhillsmanno reasons unfortunately, i have someone checking on the why15:32
emccormickzioproto: Where are you from?15:32
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izaakkI can check in Intel Guadalajara Site, I know a few people there, If Mexico is an option  :)15:32
fifieldtle sigh15:32
zioprotoemccormick, Italian but with Iranan wife and a lot of stamps on the passport15:32
fifieldtoh nice! GDL airport actually has some decent international connections too15:33
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emccormickYou can travel here. You just can't bring your wife :(. Getting in would involve probably getting quizzed in a room for a couple hours. We suck :(15:33
izaakkLast OpenStack Hackathon was hosted there15:33
emccormick+1 on Mexico. Do check15:33
mrhillsmanizaakk i do not think it was a site issue15:33
mrhillsmanbut just in case15:33
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mrhillsman#action izaakk check on intel guadalajara for fall meetup15:34
emccormickI know folks at Microfocus / SUSE down there that could probably throw some sponsorship our way.15:34
mrhillsmancool15:34
mihalis68I guess mexico or canada would be regionally appropriate and just easier for many people in our community15:34
mrhillsmanagreed15:34
VWdid we ever reach back out to BestBuy?15:34
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izaakkmrhillsman: Yeah, we can check on that. There is big community in Guadalajara15:34
zioprotoemccormick, wife is Openstack operator at University of Zurich, she needs to attend the event too !15:34
zioproto+1 for Mexico or Canada15:35
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mrhillsmanVW i do not think so, i do not remember the conversation and was not involved much in it15:35
mrhillsmanwant to follow-up?15:35
mrhillsmanat this point the door is back open i guess15:36
emccormickzioproto: Neat!15:36
mrhillsmanalright, so let us move on15:36
mrhillsmanyes?15:36
mihalis68sure15:37
emccormickyep15:37
mrhillsman#topic Tools for group15:37
mihalis68I threw an item up on the agenda about tools15:37
mihalis68yeah15:37
mrhillsmango for it mihalis6815:37
mihalis68did you get a chance to look into the links tom forwarded?15:37
mrhillsmani did not unfortunately with submissions closing yesterday/this morning15:37
mihalis68Oh I don't have any progress to report, but for those wanting to know what this is about :15:37
mrhillsmanhave that on my plate for the day15:37
mihalis68having organized one meet up, I found the mix of ether pad, email, google doc and IRC a bit difficult to stay on top of15:38
mihalis68my request was for us to use better tools and Tom at one point had some ideas15:38
mihalis68https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/HOuu22VZ/15:39
mihalis68#link http://odsreg.openstack.org/15:39
mihalis68#link https://github.com/openstack-infra/odsreg15:39
mihalis68#link https://github.com/ttx/summitsched15:39
mihalis68I guess the "tools team" is myself, Melvin and Tom15:39
fifieldtbtw, new secret tool being tested by infra team: https://ethercalc.openstack.org/15:39
mihalis68anyone else feel the need?15:39
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mihalis68dammit! I haven't looked at the first three much yet and now there' s 4th link? :)15:40
VWweee!15:40
fifieldt:D15:40
VWI can try to help mihalis6815:40
fifieldtethercalc = etherpad for spreadsheet15:40
mihalis68I'll have to try that15:40
emccormickthe first contains the other 3 ;)15:40
mrhillsmanlol15:40
mrhillsmanethercalc looks pretty cool15:41
mrhillsmanso we can keep the thread going for now15:41
mrhillsmananyone want to be added to the discussion?15:41
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mihalis68me mrhillsman tom vw15:41
mrhillsmanok cool15:41
mrhillsmanthat is all we have for the agenda15:42
mrhillsman#topic Open Discussion15:42
mrhillsmananything else?15:42
mrhillsmangoing once15:42
emccormickNot from me.15:42
mihalis68as usual, always interested whether this time slot is good for people15:42
mihalis68object now, or...15:42
emccormickgood for me15:42
mrhillsmanfine for me15:42
mihalis68and me15:43
VWI'm good for this one15:43
shintaroworks for me15:43
mihalis68ok good15:43
mihalis68thanks for the input15:43
mrhillsmanwant to thank all of you who are up late or really early for this15:43
mihalis68+115:43
mrhillsmanalright, ending meeting15:43
fifieldtthanks!15:43
mihalis68thanks for chairing!15:43
izaakkthanks!15:43
mrhillsman#endmeeting15:43
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shintarothanks15:44
mrhillsmanthanks everyone!15:44
mihalis68<applause>15:44
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zioprotomihalis68, my marketing people are asking me if we get listed on a list of sponsors somewhere... what should I say ? Do you know anything that could help giving an answer ?16:04
zioprotodo we list sponsors on the etherpad ?16:04
zioprotoanyone can help me ?16:05
mihalis68We put the sponsor name on the printed material. Bloomberg picked up venue and food16:05
mihalis68I can fwd the NYC event agenda PDF if you like16:06
mihalis68sponsors on the ether pad is also completely fine and normal16:06
mihalis68we also had some signs and again put the bloomberg logo in the corner16:06
zioprotothanks !16:06
mihalis68I have emailed you. If we really have enter.it, bloomberg and 5 co-sponsors of catering, the designers of the agenda and signs may have to be a bit more creative to get them in16:08
mihalis68tom knows more official rules about sponsor prominence here16:09
mihalis68tom@openstack.org obviously16:09
mihalis68I am going to disconnect from IRC soon, but you are welcome to ping me with further questions about this at any time - mihalis68@gmail.com or cmorgan2@bloomberg.net16:11
zioprotothanks !16:12
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