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ryan-rmrf100hello, any one help one openstack ops guide's question, one part I didn't get clearly14:46
ryan-rmrf100which inside http://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ops/content/network_design.html14:46
ryan-rmrf100inside the IP address planning part14:46
ryan-rmrf100there is  (inc spare) inside that ip address planning table14:47
ryan-rmrf100I'm not sure what's that  (inc spare) meaning14:47
ryan-rmrf100increase spare ?14:47
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albertomincluding spare15:15
albertomyou should plan ahead and if you have 10 nodes now you might want to reserve ~20 ips or more15:15
albertomthats what i understood :)15:16
ryan-rmrf100Thanks @albertom15:20
ryan-rmrf100got it15:20
albertomip addr15:20
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* klindgren present16:11
VWthanks klindgren16:11
jlkoh hi16:11
belmoreirahello again16:11
VWanyone opposed to us just having the meeting in this channel going forward16:11
VWfor ever16:11
mdormannot opposed16:11
VWbecause being a monthly meeting keeps getting us run over by others16:11
* jlk is not opposed. It'll increase the likelihood of me attending.16:11
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* regXboi asks is there a meetbot ?16:11
VWand I'm COMPLETELY fine doing this in the open16:11
VWyeah, that was my next question16:12
klindgrenonly in that nothing is going to do meeting minutes?16:12
regXboisomebody try #startmeeting :)16:12
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jlkcan we invite the bot?16:12
rockygDon't know if there is a meetbot, but it's worth trying...16:12
VW#startmeeting Large Deployments Team16:12
openstackMeeting started Thu Jun 18 16:12:29 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is VW. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:12
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:12
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'large_deployments_team'16:12
jlkhuzzah!16:12
rockyglook at that!16:12
regXboithere's a bot - so there will be minutes :)16:12
belmoreirauhhh16:12
VWsweet - decision made - well done, team16:12
VW:)16:12
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jlkjobs done, time to go home16:13
mdormannice16:13
VWwe may get other noise from other conversations, but this works.  I'll get a mail out to the whole list letting them know of the change16:13
rockyg++16:13
VW#action VW email ops list that LDT meetings are moving to #openstack-operators16:14
VWOk, now that the chaos is sorted16:14
rockygyou know, this just might up attendance16:14
VWlets go back to YVR :)16:14
VW#topic Review LDT discussions at YVR16:15
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VWso, for reference, we had a triple length working session for LDT at the summit16:16
VWnotes are here - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-ops-large-deployments16:16
VWwe had a rough plan going in, but ended up talking a lot about how we collectively viewed host groupings - cells, AZ's, Host aggregates, etc16:16
* pc_m even still lurking16:16
VWand spent a lot of time on Neutron and cells/network segments16:16
VWklindgren, mdorman, belmoreira - any other high level details you guys would add?16:17
VWor anyone else here that was there, for that matter?16:17
mdormanthat neutron bug that got created around that stuff is getting some good traction and discussion16:17
jlkthat's good16:18
mdormanklindgren and hopefully i, too, are going to go to the neutron mid-cycle next week to discuss (it’s local for us)16:18
klindgrenhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/145889016:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1458890 in neutron "Add segment support to Neutron" [Undecided,Triaged]16:18
jlkMostly I've just had those conversations in my head as we plan out AZ/HGs16:18
jlkand what failure domains mean in various places16:18
VWyeah - so let's table the host groupings for a bit and see if we can come back.  I expected a lot of today's chat to center on the Neutron bits16:19
VWthe background on this was we all pretty much had different network layouts, but similar needs16:20
VWso the problem with "Neutron and cells" was really that Neutron doesn't understand segmentation of the network16:20
VWaccurate ^ ?16:20
klindgrenYes16:21
mdorman+116:21
carl_baldwinWe have had a lot of discussion around this network segmentation in Neutron.16:21
belmoreirawhy are you mention cells?16:22
jlkbecause there was some assumption that cells == network segmentation, which is not ht ecase16:22
VWwell that's were we started belmoreira, but realized it was less about cells specifically and more about most of us had some relationship of network segments to cells16:22
jlksome sites segement the network within cells16:22
jlkand in the future, everything will have cells, at least 116:23
klindgrenimho Cells doesn't even need to be in that mix.  The problem is the same with and without cells16:23
jlkin the future there is no "with and without"16:23
VWwell it's not 1 to 1, jlk, but there is a relationship.  Either way, though - it brought up the segment issue16:23
VWright16:23
VWsorry if I confused16:23
VWwas walking back through how the discussion went16:23
klindgrenah - kk16:23
belmoreiraI think is a more generic problem. we don't segment per cell... but inside the cell.16:24
VWfor me a cell is a segment, for you a cab, etc16:24
regXboicarl_bladwin: is it fair to say that neutron does have a segment concept, but it doesn't necessarily meet operator's needs?16:24
belmoreiraso, for me the scope is wider16:24
rockygI'd like to suggest that those who have already dealt with the problem write up your current workflow(s) for *deploying network, *deploying segment, adding/deleting in working deployment, modifying ranges, etc16:24
regXboisorry... carl_baldwin: is it fair to say that neutron does have a segment concept, but it doesn't necessarily meet operator's needs?16:24
rockygIf you have the work flows in detail, the devs can convert transition points to actionable code.16:25
carl_baldwinregXboi: You are referring to the multi-provider extension?  In that case, I haven’t wrapped my head around it yet enough to agree or disagree.16:25
carl_baldwinrockyg: ++16:25
rockygcarl_baldwin, isn't that just designware at the moment?16:25
carl_baldwinrockyg: Yes.16:26
rockygAlso, write what you do now, and what would be the preferred flow/flows16:26
VWso, I've shared this elswhere, but we solved it with a plug-in - https://github.com/rackerlabs/quark16:26
carl_baldwinrockyg: ++ because I would like to read these write-ups that you are requesting.16:27
regXboiagreed - the write-ups will be useful16:28
VWis it best to put those as comments in the spec above?16:28
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mdormanregXboi / carl_baldwin, i think a lot of that stuff has been captured in the ML thread about “how your users actually use networking” (or whatever the topic is) that klindgren started16:29
mdormanalthough we could probably try to regurgitate that in a more useful format in the spec, etherpad, something else16:29
regXboimdorman: I've been following that, but I'm trying to see how to get it to an "example use case" format16:29
rockygWhat I would do and am starting for logs is to start with an etherpad, get agreement on one or multiple flows, then publish.  Put the link to etherpad or published stuff in bug16:29
rockygThe product wg has a template for use cases16:30
rockygI'll see if I can dig up location, but likely in openstack/openstack-spec16:30
carl_baldwinmdorman: Yes, I’ve read through the thread.  I’ll give another read through.  Would also like to see it condensed and organized a bit.16:30
mdormanok, i can suggest that klindgren and i start an etherpad and solicit people via ML to fill in their use cases (if klindgren agrees)16:31
rockygIn fact, product_wg is putting a repo together specifically for use cases.16:31
mdormanwe can set a goal of having that togehter by early next week for review before the mid-cycle16:31
VWgo for it, mdorman16:31
rockygw))t!16:31
rockygsorry.  w00t!16:31
carl_baldwinmdorman: The Neutron mid-cycle?  Yes, that would be great.  We could center our discussion around it.16:31
mdorman#action mdorman & klindgren to create etherpad and condense currecnt use cases around network segmentation ahead of neutron mid-cycle16:32
mdormancarl_baldwin:  yes16:32
VWI'd reccomend pinging myself, belmoreira, sam and others to seed it before you send it out too16:32
VWthat would be amazing, carl_baldwin16:32
klindgrencarl_baldwin, rockyg regXboi - how much detail would you like to see?16:32
rockygYeah.  Having a workflow for midcycle would help focus design of the RFE to what you guys want rather than how the devs currently think about the issue16:32
regXboiklindgren: I think what rockyg said above would get us started...16:33
klindgrenwould it help if we included something about how our network is layed out - so that you can also the problems we are trying to solve?16:33
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klindgrenalso see*16:34
carl_baldwinklindgren: I think mostly detail around any API changes you’ve made or how you’d like to use the API.  Network layout that is pertinent will be useful.16:34
rockygCollecting network layouts would be *extremely* informative to neutron folks.  And could be used by the people building SDN/NFV stuff16:34
mdormankk16:34
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rockygWhat carl_baldwin said.  Layouts as a set can be more midterm.  But, start collecting! Get the whole set!16:35
VW#action klindgren and modorman to set up etherpad to better collect network segmentation use cases for Neutron mid-cycle16:35
VWI think the only other big "network" related output from our YVR sessions was the schedule by IP capacity bits16:37
VWand that was really a spec that mdorman and klindgren were pushing prior to the summmit if I remember16:37
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VWbut that's not solely a Neutron thing, obviously16:37
klindgrenCorrect - which we purposed as a spec/blueprint16:37
klindgrenSince when we presented it at the mid-cycle in philly other people were interested16:38
klindgrenhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/180803/16:39
mdormani feel like that one is probably pretty close, i think most of the concerns and stuff have been worked out.  but i haven’t looked at it for a few days16:39
mdormanif there’s time/desire, could also discuss that at neutron mid-cycle,too, if it makes sense.16:39
VWyeah - as long as we are prepping for ops/dev discussion at mid cycle ...16:39
VWmdorman types faster than me :)16:40
mdormanhehe16:40
mdormankinda leaving that up to neutron team, if they do or do not want that on the agenda16:40
rockygFYI.  I created an etherpad for the segmentation use cases:  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Network_Segmentation_Usecases16:40
mdormanawesome16:40
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klindgren+1 - don't want to railroad their meetup :-)16:41
rockygYeah.  meeting moderator, wanna do a #link to that to get it in the minutes16:41
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VW#link  etherpad for the segmentation use cases:  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Network_Segmentation_Usecases16:41
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rockygthans :-)16:41
VWnp16:42
VWI'm not completely sure that commands besides stop and start are working16:42
VWsince topic gave no output16:42
VWbut we'll see16:42
carl_baldwinmdorman: I’ll make time to discuss the usage BP too.16:42
VWif not, I'll call it out in our wiki summarry too, rockyg16:42
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rockygkewl!16:43
mdormancarl_baldwin:  cool cool, thanks16:43
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VWawesome!  Anything else Neutron related?16:43
* VW takes that as a no16:44
klindgrenI dont have anything16:44
VW#topic Backlog Specs16:45
VWso, we may have touched on this briefly in the meeting in YVR, but wanted to bring it up here too in case folks missed it16:45
VWhave you all seen backlog specs?16:45
VW#link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/backlog/16:45
VWJohn Garbutt hit the mailing list with them shortly before the summit16:46
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klindgrenah - so this is similar to the rfe stuff for neutron?16:46
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rockygright16:46
VWbasically it's a way to make feature requests in psuedo-spec format without all the details16:46
VWyeah16:46
klindgrenkk16:47
VWklindgren will you link that for reference in the logs?16:47
klindgren#link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/backlog/16:47
VWno the Neutron bit16:47
VWsorry16:47
klindgrenhehehe16:48
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klindgren#link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/blueprints.html - see RFE section16:48
VWsweet16:49
VWthanks16:49
VWI want to make sure this group is aware of these types of feature request mechanisms.  We often come up with the common needs, but don't necessarily have all the details16:50
VWso I'd like to at least make sure we integrate them in to our regular meetings where appropriate16:50
rockyg++ and its under rapid change....16:50
VWand since most LDT folks are busy running big clouds - it might help things from stalling out waiting on time for us to build full blueprints16:51
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VWso we are short on time, but are there any other specs - full, backlog, RFE or otherwise that anyone needs feedback on?16:52
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VWI guess not.  In the future, though, feel free to add them to agendas if they aren't already out on the ML16:54
klindgrenI dont have anything else16:54
jlkwell16:55
jlklet me find something because there is an open bug on migration/resize/etc.16:55
jlklet me see if I can find it real quick16:55
VWcool - at least link it jlk16:56
rockygwanted to let folks know I've started an etherpad to collect detailed usecases for logging that speak to stalled specs : request-id and error-codes  I'll publish a note to the ML16:56
VWwe can keep discussing it, but want to honor the time from a "meeting" standpoint16:56
VWthanks, rockyg16:56
jlkyeah please move on I'm having trouble locating :)16:57
VWno worries16:57
VWso, tom confirmed that the new git meeting thing doesn's support monthly meetings16:57
VWso, we'll stick to this channel going forward16:57
VWI'll update all the wiki's and get a poll out becuase we need an official time for the alternating months that favors the APAC folks16:58
VWwith that...16:58
VW#topic Other Business16:58
jlkah found it.16:58
rockygAnd, I'll be reaching out for help on a philosphy doc on how operators and other users want output/interactions/flow so it is useful for them.16:58
jlkhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/129354016:58
openstackLaunchpad bug 1293540 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova should make sure the bridge exists before resuming a VM after an offline snapshot" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Luo Gangyi (luogangyi)16:58
jlkso it's a problem with any action that takes the last VM away from a host16:58
jlkand the review seems stuck16:58
VWhmm - I'm not sure we are seeing that universally, jlk16:58
VWwe've been doing quite a bit of live migartion16:59
jlkVW: you probably don't have many hosts with only one instance on them that would get a non-live snapshot done16:59
VWah - snapshot16:59
jlkhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/149942/ is the review16:59
VWmissed that16:59
VWsorry16:59
VWOk. I'm going to close the meeting bits down.  Thanks folks for this.  REALLY good discussion today16:59
jlkVW: well, it could be snapshot, it could be resize, it could be just about anything that would stop the last instance on a host and then try to bring it back.17:00
VWsorry about the confusion :\17:00
VW#endmeeting17:00
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openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/large_deployments_team/2015/large_deployments_team.2015-06-18-16.12.log.html17:00
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klindgrenI remember someone saying they were working around this by booting a very small vm on each HV?17:00
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mdormanthanks VW17:01
klindgrenwe have not been bit by that issue - I assume it only happens if you are not using flat networks in neutron?  Like vlan or GRE or something else.17:03
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VWYeah, I can't say that we've seen it either, but will look around17:04
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jlkklindgren: that's us that boots a tiny vm17:11
jlkklindgren: but since all our customers are admin on the cloud they could delete those and shoot themselves in the foot.17:11
jlkand it does eat into their available capacity17:11
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jlkklindgren: we're using VLAN or VXLAN, yeah17:11
jlkwith linux bridge17:12
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klindgrenok - someone else seems to say that it only occurs with neutron linuxbridge as well17:13
klindgrenwonder why it doesn't impact ovs installs17:14
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