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| beddari | anyone interested in project calico? http://www.projectcalico.org/ | 12:33 |
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| beddari | about to build out test envs using it ... | 12:34 |
| beddari | and so far it feels ... GOOD :) | 12:34 |
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| mnaser | looks interesting beddari | 12:37 |
| beddari | actually I could run around shouting and screaming how good it feels hehe | 12:38 |
| mnaser | running ovs with neutron atm | 12:39 |
| mnaser | it's doing.. ok | 12:39 |
| beddari | yup, we are too, but not too long I hope | 12:39 |
| beddari | thing is I wanted what Calico provides before I knew it was a project | 12:40 |
| mnaser | mm | 12:40 |
| mnaser | depends a lot on the "gateway" | 12:40 |
| beddari | and I'd built it outside openstack using lxc+kvm without openstack | 12:41 |
| beddari | well what gateway? of course you need something to handle all those host routes | 12:41 |
| beddari | but that is increasingly becoming easy | 12:41 |
| beddari | the gateway off the workloads is always a loopback if on the host | 12:41 |
| mnaser | yeah but also configure it to do nat | 12:41 |
| beddari | no | 12:42 |
| beddari | hehe well, yes, depends | 12:42 |
| mnaser | "Finally, configure your gateway to do stateful PNAT for any traffic coming from the IPv4 internal range." | 12:42 |
| beddari | or don't ;) | 12:42 |
| mnaser | and it seems to be lacking flexibility for mulittenant environments | 12:42 |
| mnaser | "Then, configure the default network, subnet, router and floating IP quota for all tenants to be 0 to prevent them from creating more networks and confusing themselves!" .. heh | 12:42 |
| beddari | well, for my tenants, they just want IP and security policies, not L2 domains | 12:43 |
| mnaser | yeah each use casse has its needs | 12:43 |
| mnaser | its a good start of an idea | 12:43 |
| beddari | so why do you need an L2 overlay ? :) | 12:44 |
| mnaser | multitenant environment | 12:44 |
| beddari | when IP policy can handle separation just as weell | 12:44 |
| mnaser | customers want a private network to be private | 12:44 |
| beddari | what is private, then? :) | 12:44 |
| beddari | private broadcasts? | 12:44 |
| beddari | I don't get it, honestly | 12:44 |
| mnaser | i feel like you'd have to imagine iaas as it is to be this tool to build infrastructure | 12:45 |
| mnaser | and there will be requirements for l2 separation, just like you need a dedicated switch for X application when using hardware | 12:45 |
| beddari | securing IP traffic is not about "feelings", I know a lot of people bringing forward that same stance, but ... anyone building a service doesn't really echo that | 12:47 |
| beddari | IPv6 brings even more of that same reality | 12:48 |
| beddari | so for me skipping the overlay, IP as transport, L3 ACLs as security ... is a homerun :) | 12:49 |
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| paraskgeor | HEllo | 13:58 |
| paraskgeor | i ahve a bit of a problem with aswift test environement(OASD) | 13:59 |
| paraskgeor | i cant get swift services bind to the storage network interfaces | 14:00 |
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| paraskgeor | they cannot bing because in netstat there are already 3 procceses using ports 6001 6000 6002 | 14:01 |
| paraskgeor | does anyone have any idea what am i messing? | 14:01 |
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| paraskgeor | this is what i get when i go to containers page in Horizon | 14:21 |
| paraskgeor | proxy-server: Invalid user token - deferring reject downstream | 14:21 |
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| Piet | Does anyone have a range for the number of keypairs within Horizon? In this scenario, a user is creating an instance and needs to select a keypair...what is the range that is typical? | 19:01 |
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| klindgren_ | No real data to back this up - but I feel like 1-5 is pretty typical. | 19:12 |
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