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| mgagne | I just discovered http://www.aptly.info/ and it looks very interesting | 18:49 |
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| mgagne | especially the API part | 18:50 |
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| jlk | mgagne: we're using Aptly | 19:41 |
| mgagne | jlk: oh cool, any experience to share? | 19:41 |
| jlk | I'd have to ask the other guys, one of which will be at the meetup next week | 19:41 |
| jlk | I haven't interacted with it much at all | 19:41 |
| mgagne | jlk: don't tell me you wish to switch to reprepro | 19:41 |
| mgagne | right | 19:41 |
| jlk | hah | 19:42 |
| jlk | I haven't heard many swear words thrown at it, so I guess it's okay? | 19:42 |
| mgagne | :D | 19:42 |
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| WormMan | woo, step 1 complete. Can now connect to DVR instances from my desk... step 2: make floating IPs work again... | 20:59 |
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| jlk | nice job | 21:07 |
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| harlowja | anyone using https://pantsbuild.github.io with openstack? | 23:17 |
| harlowja | seems like its sorta like virtualenvs | 23:17 |
| harlowja | but wondering if anyone has experimented using pants with all the openstack projects | 23:19 |
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| mgagne | imagine the owner receiving Nagios alerts because his website is unresponsive: pants down! | 23:39 |
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| mgagne | harlowja: I'm not sure I understand its purpose other than reinventing yet another build tool with its own DSL | 23:43 |
| harlowja | ya, i'm not sure either | 23:44 |
| mgagne | harlowja: feels like someone had a lot of heterogeneous projects (languages) to build and felt he didn't want to deal with each language build tools. | 23:45 |
| harlowja | yup :-P | 23:45 |
| mgagne | harlowja: and Makefile were too complicated for him | 23:45 |
| harlowja | someone at twitter trying to be cool | 23:45 |
| harlowja | lol | 23:45 |
| mgagne | We all have our internal tools and grow them thinking it's the best thing in the world. But often, once publicly released, I feel they are built to answer very specific needs in a so particular way that it doesn't feel right at all | 23:47 |
| harlowja | :) | 23:47 |
| harlowja | *and u lose all the history about why its all mushed together | 23:48 |
| mgagne | hahaha, yes I missed that part :P | 23:48 |
| mgagne | like someone had windows and couldn't install some language specific build tools | 23:49 |
| harlowja | ya, not sure | 23:49 |
| mgagne | =) | 23:50 |
| mgagne | I'm still shopping for a great APT repository manager =) | 23:50 |
| harlowja | i guess https://pantsbuild.github.io/python_old.html has some of the history | 23:50 |
| harlowja | although not sure whats the real benfit over virtualenvs | 23:51 |
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| harlowja | ^ there explanation there is sorta 'light', lol | 23:51 |
| mgagne | "no virtualenv setup instructions" so someone didn't want to deal with that part :P | 23:51 |
| harlowja | ya, cause its really that hard, lol | 23:52 |
| harlowja | ha | 23:52 |
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| mgagne | so devs have to invent a way to get their stuff there in a self-contained fashion | 23:53 |
| mgagne | and/or speed up deployment by only transferring a single file | 23:53 |
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| harlowja | ya, something like that | 23:54 |
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